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| 00:06.47 | rwhitby | App Tuckerbox is now out of beta, with no registration limit. |
| 00:09.54 | wrea | awesome |
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| 00:31.11 | invalidopcode | hm... something isn't adding up here. 32 gb touchpad but after linux and android the partitions don't add up to 32... they add up to like 27... |
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| 00:42.11 | Sedorox | so it seems my Pre3 doesn't want to work only in my apartment |
| 00:42.16 | Sedorox | at work, and on the road it seems fine |
| 00:42.23 | Sedorox | even down on the street from my apartment |
| 00:42.41 | Sedorox | wonder if it has anything to do with over 8 SSIDs visable around me |
| 00:48.56 | Brybry | invalidopcode, if SSDs follow anything like other storage manufacturers that should be 32 * 10^9 (~29.8 gb) not 32 * 2^30. Then maybe some should be lost to the filesystems, though 2GB does seem like a lot to lose |
| 00:50.39 | invalidopcode | Brybry: yeah, i messed with it before when playing with the first alpha of arch linux for the touchpad, so i'm thinking i might have messed something up. |
| 00:52.12 | invalidopcode | plus with my /media/internal filesystem problems last weekend, im thinking a good factory reset might be a good thing |
| 00:53.43 | Shihatsu | [01:06] <+rwhitby> App Tuckerbox is now out of beta, with no registration limit. |
| 00:53.45 | Shihatsu | woha! |
| 00:53.50 | Shihatsu | nice nice! |
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| 00:55.42 | dwc- | how are you measuring 'linux' and android? |
| 00:56.16 | invalidopcode | dwc-: the lvm command then lvs |
| 00:57.41 | dwc- | (136+24+256+568+512+16+64)/1024+16+11.52 |
| 00:57.41 | dwc- | 29.05906250000000000000 |
| 00:57.41 | dwc- | 32*1000^3/1024^3 |
| 00:57.41 | dwc- | 29.80232238769531250000 |
| 00:57.55 | dwc- | not much "missing" from mine |
| 00:58.19 | invalidopcode | nice math :P yeah mine adds up to 27gb something or other |
| 00:58.31 | dwc- | lvm> pvs PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree /dev/mmcblk0p14 store lvm2 a- 29.07G 8.00M |
| 00:59.17 | invalidopcode | rwhitby: what's App Tuckerbox? |
| 01:02.16 | dwc- | then you should look around and see where your unallocated space is |
| 01:02.28 | dwc- | (if you care) |
| 01:02.47 | Shihatsu | invalidopcode: in short it is the return of the palm app feeds in preware |
| 01:03.09 | Shihatsu | but it can do a "little bit" more (as every app ob woi) |
| 01:03.11 | invalidopcode | dwc-: yeah, i was trying to do that, idk, im doctoring now |
| 01:03.28 | invalidopcode | Shihatsu: ah ok cool |
| 01:17.37 | PatrickC | rwhitby, ping |
| 01:17.53 | ka6sox | Danger Will Robinson |
| 01:18.08 | wrea | lol |
| 01:18.21 | PatrickC | its about app tuckerbox. for the article i wrote |
| 01:18.28 | PatrickC | i dont see a donation link in the help page |
| 01:19.15 | rwhitby | the splash screen has one |
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| 04:31.52 | invalidopcode | so doctor complains about "SEVERE: MountUtils: unmount failed: umount: can't umount /dev/mapper/store-log: No such file or directory" |
| 04:32.21 | invalidopcode | any suggestions? |
| 04:42.17 | invalidopcode | is there anyway for me to entirely wipe all the touchpad's partitions totally clean and have doctor recreate them? |
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| 05:16.02 | invalidopcode | is there anyone around who could spare a few minutes to help me try to fix my touchpad? |
| 05:17.00 | invalidopcode | (its just partitioning issues) |
| 05:17.17 | |abbie| | ? |
| 05:17.59 | invalidopcode | my touchpad isn't booting after doctoring |
| 05:18.09 | invalidopcode | and i tried to wipe everything on the touchpad |
| 05:18.25 | invalidopcode | and now im stuck unable to recreate the filesystem :/ |
| 05:19.36 | invalidopcode | any suggestions? |
| 05:20.58 | invalidopcode | this command: lvm.static vgcreate -s 8M store /dev/mmcblk0p14 |
| 05:21.12 | invalidopcode | fails with this: No physical volume label read from /dev/mmcblk0p14 |
| 05:21.47 | |abbie| | Yea, I'd have no clue. |
| 05:22.28 | invalidopcode | ugh, thanks anyway |
| 05:22.45 | |abbie| | I'm going to stick around in case someone has an answer though. |
| 05:23.03 | |abbie| | onlything I could think about is trying to add commands to repartitoin to the metadoctor |
| 05:23.15 | invalidopcode | are there such commands? |
| 05:23.21 | |abbie| | or making sure your cable is not bad |
| 05:23.31 | |abbie| | the cable one keeps screwing me over. |
| 05:23.47 | invalidopcode | i think my cable is fine... |
| 05:24.04 | invalidopcode | is there any way to force webos to repartition? |
| 05:24.16 | |abbie| | was this after ubuntu? |
| 05:24.47 | |abbie| | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor#How_to_remove_the_ext3fs_partition |
| 05:29.08 | invalidopcode | no, it wasn't, but i might have a lead |
| 05:29.22 | jcsullins | invalidopcode: no, cannot force webos to repartition ... |
| 05:29.44 | jcsullins | why are u running the vgcreate command, btw? |
| 05:30.06 | jcsullins | i.e. following some instructions somewhere? (link?) |
| 05:31.12 | invalidopcode | yeah i tryied the Corrupted LVM in http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery |
| 05:31.33 | invalidopcode | (after trying like everything else, including manually recreating the filesystem) |
| 05:32.32 | jcsullins | I see no vgcreate cmd on that page ... |
| 05:33.26 | invalidopcode | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover |
| 05:35.13 | jcsullins | ok, I think I know what u need to do, but need to get proper syntax.. just a min |
| 05:36.05 | invalidopcode | yeah... hold on |
| 05:36.42 | jcsullins | btw, what lead to this situation? |
| 05:36.59 | invalidopcode | i just recreated the physical device i removed, and just recreated the filesystem, so ill try to doctor it now |
| 05:37.23 | jcsullins | so what did u run? |
| 05:37.38 | invalidopcode | jcsullins: i was having some fs problems the other day, and i was doing Linux and android stuff and i just wanted a clean start |
| 05:38.53 | invalidopcode | doctor running.... |
| 05:39.36 | invalidopcode | hm... failed. can't mount /dev/mapper/store-log |
| 05:40.40 | jcsullins | hmmm ... running commentary, or asking for help? |
| 05:40.59 | invalidopcode | both? haha idk |
| 05:41.05 | invalidopcode | thinking out loud |
| 05:41.36 | jcsullins | what cmds did u just try now ... the "recreated the physical device" / etc. ? |
| 05:43.10 | invalidopcode | lvm.static pvcreate /dev/mmcblk0p14 |
| 05:43.35 | invalidopcode | then the instructions at the bottom of http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover |
| 05:44.38 | jcsullins | so u re-ran all of the "Filesystem Recreation" stuff after the pvcreate? |
| 05:44.45 | invalidopcode | yup |
| 05:44.58 | jcsullins | and no errors from those cmds? |
| 05:45.08 | invalidopcode | nope |
| 05:45.25 | jcsullins | humm |
| 05:47.03 | jcsullins | ahh, I see those cmds do not re-create the log filesystem ... |
| 05:47.54 | invalidopcode | yeah |
| 05:48.19 | invalidopcode | create... my touchpad won't turn on now |
| 05:48.40 | jcsullins | huh? |
| 05:48.53 | invalidopcode | its not even booting anymore |
| 05:49.28 | invalidopcode | doctor uploaded the ramdisk, and was waiting for touchpad to come back and it just didn't |
| 05:49.57 | jcsullins | reset w/ Power+Home? |
| 05:50.20 | invalidopcode | nope |
| 05:50.27 | invalidopcode | not working |
| 05:50.35 | jcsullins | plugged into charger? |
| 05:51.50 | jcsullins | how long did you hold Power+Home? |
| 05:52.15 | invalidopcode | yup, and like 15-30 seconds |
| 05:53.19 | jcsullins | might try connecting to PC and holding Power+Home and see if it shows up at all as USB device on PC |
| 05:54.45 | jcsullins | also, have any idea how low the battery is? might need to leave on AC charger for a while to get it to a level where it can boot ... |
| 05:56.01 | invalidopcode | it's been low (~25%) for the last couple hours and i was just quick charging it up to 25 to doctor so that might be the case |
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| 05:59.49 | invalidopcode | well my computer doesn't recognize it |
| 06:00.32 | invalidopcode | im going to charge it for a while |
| 06:00.39 | jcsullins | I would leave on AC charger for 30-45 mins ... |
| 06:00.52 | invalidopcode | ok ill try that |
| 06:01.16 | invalidopcode | so far as the log partition, what do you think i should do about that? |
| 06:01.22 | jcsullins | might take even more, but usually that would be enough to get it to boot |
| 06:01.31 | invalidopcode | (when/if it boots) |
| 06:02.27 | invalidopcode | btw, thank you very much for help me |
| 06:02.44 | jcsullins | sure.. btw, the PC -- what OS is it running? |
| 06:02.58 | bhuey | crazy |
| 06:03.18 | invalidopcode | Linux.... but i have a windows pc i can use too |
| 06:03.32 | jcsullins | no, linux is much better |
| 06:03.47 | invalidopcode | ok haha yeah |
| 06:04.00 | jcsullins | when u tried connecting earlier, what did u use to determine that it was not recognized? |
| 06:04.09 | invalidopcode | windows |
| 06:04.16 | invalidopcode | i tryied it on my other computer |
| 06:04.53 | jcsullins | I would try it on linux when running "tail -f /var/log/messages" in a window |
| 06:06.25 | jcsullins | maybe not right now, but whenever u try that again ... start that cmd in window, plug in usb cable ( see if msgs about USB connect), if no msgs hold Power+Home for a while and see if any appear |
| 06:06.42 | invalidopcode | ok, ill try that |
| 06:08.04 | jcsullins | bhuey: don't go crazy on us |
| 06:08.08 | jcsullins | :) |
| 06:08.20 | bhuey | not yet at least |
| 06:09.10 | invalidopcode | trying to keep his head on straight |
| 06:10.02 | invalidopcode | this is very humbling... im used to being the one providing support for other people |
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| 06:40.03 | invalidopcode | jcsullins: so i tried connecting it to my computer and following the log i get this: http://pastie.org/3141769 |
| 06:40.42 | jcsullins | what is output from "lsusb -v" ? |
| 06:43.02 | jcsullins | actually, just "lsusb" is prob. fine |
| 06:43.36 | invalidopcode | http://pastie.org/3141778 |
| 06:44.25 | invalidopcode | and http://pastie.org/3141780 |
| 06:45.44 | jcsullins | this: "ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)" |
| 06:46.16 | jcsullins | does not look good ... try holding Power+Home for 30 secs and rerunning "lsusb" and see if that is still there ... |
| 06:48.24 | invalidopcode | yup its still there |
| 06:49.04 | invalidopcode | this is the kind of time when i which i could remove the battery |
| 06:49.24 | invalidopcode | i have a feeling that something in the memory might be messed up |
| 06:49.57 | jcsullins | yeah, but don't think removing battery will fix it... |
| 06:50.14 | jcsullins | non-volatile memory ... |
| 06:50.52 | invalidopcode | :/ |
| 06:51.41 | jcsullins | the suggested fix is calling HP and telling them that your TP won't "turn on" anymore ... |
| 06:52.07 | jcsullins | (might want to leave out what happened just before that happened) |
| 06:52.16 | invalidopcode | yeah, ill do that |
| 06:52.23 | invalidopcode | thanks for all your help though |
| 06:52.29 | jcsullins | np, sorry |
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| 10:54.32 | loswillios | hi |
| 10:55.03 | loswillios | whenever I open preware, it is stuck at "Reading Saved Package List" (after updating the sources) |
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| 10:55.27 | rwhitby | uninstall, reboot, reinstall. it's a webOS 3.x bug |
| 10:55.37 | loswillios | ok |
| 10:55.42 | loswillios | thanks! |
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| 18:41.43 | ka6sox-zzzz | anybody awake here? |
| 18:41.57 | dwc- | maybe |
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| 18:42.14 | dwc- | looks like you're claiming to not be though ;) |
| 18:46.37 | scoutcamper | ka6sox-zzzz, im awake |
| 18:46.52 | PuffTheMagic_ | i just moved wterm out of beta |
| 18:47.31 | summatusmentis | I was just playing with the beta. Is there a way to enlarge the keyboard? |
| 18:47.32 | wrea | awesome |
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| 18:49.31 | scoutcamper | PuffTheMagic_, CONGRATS! |
| 18:49.45 | dwc- | highfives PuffTheMagic_ |
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| 19:18.28 | PuffTheMagic_ | there are a few more vt bugs i think its pretty damn good now |
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| 21:26.35 | Brybry | wrea, I got it working \o/ |
| 21:26.48 | Brybry | though it's super high latency =/ |
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| 21:34.21 | rsplenum | app tuckerbox registration error |
| 21:34.35 | rsplenum | please help anybody ?? |
| 21:43.28 | wrea | Brybry, weird |
| 21:43.55 | wrea | Brybry, so what's your aim with using the ext. wifi? |
| 21:44.30 | Brybry | monitor mode eventually |
| 21:45.21 | wrea | do any drivers for your card support it? |
| 21:45.58 | wrea | I should also get back to my kismet package eventually |
| 21:50.28 | Brybry | I think there were old drivers that supported it for my card but I dunno about the new ones |
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