| 00:05.51 | dwc- | if they're so evil, how come I didn't get one |
| 00:06.23 | lingfish | ? |
| 00:08.11 | dwc- | you can always change the icon, but that's not what the precentral article is talking about |
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| 00:18.59 | lingfish | dwc-: I mean in the comments section.. people there talk about getting a H+ icon... |
| 00:19.34 | lingfish | ALso... my dear partners Pre 2 is in a boot loop... going to attempt a doctor. As of 1.3.1 says webosinternals, the USB side does not get wiped, correct still? |
| 00:24.30 | dwc- | the symbol will show up if you have H+ |
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| 01:10.30 | EricBlade | for anyone who knows how freetether works, there shouldn't be any significant difference in bandwidth available to the phone itself, versus whatever is connected to the phone, right? |
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| 01:20.19 | RichT23 | EricBlade: sounds right |
| 01:20.29 | RichT23 | its just routing |
| 01:23.07 | EricBlade | hmm. i'm noticing that Pandora on phone works surprisingly well with my extremely poor bandwidth cell connection.. but on TouchPad, it's .. significantly worse. |
| 01:23.39 | rwhitby | EricBlade: latency will of course be increased |
| 01:24.22 | EricBlade | true. i'm just trying to pin it on either differences in OS or variances in the cell data connection from moment to moment |
| 01:24.45 | dwc- | pandora on the phone might be accessing a different stream? |
| 01:25.14 | dwc- | haven't looked at the app(s) but one might be looking at your EDGE and saying "this isn't 3g or wifi" |
| 01:28.50 | EricBlade | it does look like webOS 2 continues streaming when media is paused, but 3 doesn't |
| 01:36.07 | EricBlade | and then it throws out the streamed data when you unpause |
| 01:36.08 | EricBlade | lol |
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| 01:37.08 | robertgoulet | so I just overcooked my touchpad and am wondering about the performance setting |
| 01:37.34 | robertgoulet | is that too much for into handle cause I noticed both CPUs were at 1.5 |
| 01:37.40 | rwhitby | you set it to "performance" governor? did you read the help entry for that? |
| 01:38.19 | rwhitby | do you keep your car revving at 5000RPM when you're sitting stopped at the traffic lights? |
| 01:38.55 | robertgoulet | k that's exactly what I thought |
| 01:39.25 | EricBlade | rwhitby: how else would i leave rubber marks at all the intersections? |
| 01:39.30 | wrea | of course I do |
| 01:39.48 | EricBlade | hasn't had a license for 7 years :| |
| 01:39.49 | robertgoulet | how do I make risk that the second one will run faster though.it is lagging when trying to watch stuff online |
| 01:39.51 | robertgoulet | ? |
| 01:40.39 | robertgoulet | I should have said with out it running that way all the time. |
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| 02:06.51 | lingfish | Anyone got thoughts on my question above re doctoring and USB? |
| 02:10.58 | rwhitby | lingfish: didn't see the question |
| 02:12.30 | lingfish | ALso... my dear partners Pre 2 is in a boot loop... going to attempt a doctor. As of 1.3.1 says webosinternals, the USB side does not get wiped, correct still? |
| 02:12.43 | lingfish | ... or should I try something else other than a doctor |
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| 02:13.07 | lingfish | It's odd... the charging screen comes up for 2-3 mins, then blank, seems to reboot maybe? Then back to charge |
| 02:14.08 | lingfish | Reason I ask re USB is because obviously, I can't get to the damn USB to back it up |
| 02:19.27 | kevets_ | is it a feankenpre2? |
| 02:23.20 | lingfish | nah, unless I don't get what a franken is... no special hacks etc |
| 02:24.13 | lingfish | getting device not recog'd... and holding up vol and plugging in USB doesn't give me USB mode |
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| 02:25.08 | kevets_ | to get usb recovery mode, you turn the phone off then power it on while holding vol up |
| 02:25.39 | kevets_ | what are you trying to doctor it with? |
| 02:25.47 | rwhitby | memboot it, and do a meta-doctor "make backup" |
| 02:26.00 | rwhitby | you should always assume a doctor is going to wipe the dvice |
| 02:26.37 | wrea | Yeah, and if it doesnt, its a bonus |
| 02:32.59 | lingfish | kevets_: yep, as just stated, trying that and it ain't working :( |
| 02:33.04 | lingfish | rwhitby: right, will attempt that. |
| 02:33.29 | lingfish | The reboot loop is strange though... almost as if the batt is stuffed and it just decides to restart before even fully booting |
| 02:36.24 | rwhitby | that's usually a kernel panic |
| 02:36.44 | rwhitby | you can find out by vol-up interrupting the boot then extracting the klog |
| 02:43.16 | lingfish | rwhitby: as I plug in USB, or a different trick for interrupt? |
| 02:43.30 | rwhitby | normal recovery mode |
| 02:48.41 | lingfish | hmm. |
| 02:50.23 | lingfish | I still get batt charge with red line symbol for a while after... does it take a while for the USB symbol to appear? Not my recollection... |
| 02:50.36 | keith | can i ask if anyone has the sprint prl update? having problems updating this frankenpre2 |
| 02:52.19 | keith | i deactivated a sprint frankenpre2 in oct, and having problems re-activating now |
| 02:52.22 | keith | wonder if its prl related |
| 02:53.17 | rwhitby | usually is |
| 02:57.57 | keith | so any way to get a prl besides activating it as a pre mius and pulling it from there/. |
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| 03:37.35 | lingfish | rwhitby: ok so it seems it was a batt level issue... getting USB symbol now... to pull the klog do you suggest I use novaterm, or? |
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| 03:40.53 | lingfish | ah, just got to bootie, I think, via novacom |
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| 03:47.05 | samthewildone | Okay suckas ! |
| 03:47.11 | samthewildone | I got my TouchPad for x-mas |
| 03:47.22 | samthewildone | now what do I do with it ? |
| 03:47.33 | b3d0u1n | Masturbate |
| 03:47.53 | samthewildone | how long ago was 3.0.4 77 released ? |
| 03:47.55 | b3d0u1n | It has a vibrate function |
| 03:52.37 | rwhitby | samthewildone: http://bit.ly/phd-ac |
| 03:54.55 | samthewildone | brb |
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| 04:17.32 | stalane | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398124,00.asp |
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| 04:29.40 | rwhitby | I should have made a video of one of mine |
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| 04:32.21 | swagmia | how to to download it? |
| 04:32.42 | rwhitby | how to download what? |
| 04:35.26 | lingfish | I take it nova-installer-image-roadrunner.uImage gives me no way to bring up wifi, nor is there a safe place to tar up USB contents? |
| 04:35.36 | lingfish | apart from make-backup and whatnot |
| 04:40.15 | rwhitby | lingfish: make backup in meta-doctor |
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| 04:50.08 | lingfish | rwhitby: nice.. no need... using novacom and run to cat stuff out. |
| 04:54.12 | lingfish | Better yet, a tar of all of /mnt/media |
| 04:54.16 | lingfish | Sorted, huzah. |
| 05:03.15 | rwhitby | lingfish: which is actually exactly what "make backup" does, funnily enough ... |
| 05:03.27 | b3d0u1n | Hmm. Probably the last one to know this, but rather than mess around with cross compiling on a non-ARM machine running Debian and scratchbox, it's sort of easier to just chroot into Debian on the TouchPad and compile from there. As long as you compile with static libraries everything goes smooth when you run the binaries in webOS. |
| 05:03.50 | rwhitby | sure, if you're a masochist ;) |
| 05:04.35 | b3d0u1n | I don't have enough room for GCC on the TP because my preware partition is too tiny |
| 05:04.43 | b3d0u1n | otherwise i'd just do it from the tp |
| 05:05.25 | rwhitby | preware partition? |
| 05:05.48 | rwhitby | you can make the ext3fs partition as large as you like, up to 24GB or so easily |
| 05:05.55 | b3d0u1n | yeah I know |
| 05:06.06 | b3d0u1n | but i don't want to start from scratch |
| 05:06.19 | wrea | ouch, compiling on the tp |
| 05:06.21 | rwhitby | just use Tailor to resize it |
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| 05:06.51 | b3d0u1n | too scared of a possible failure |
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| 05:08.37 | sethron | Hello Impostahs |
| 05:08.53 | wrea | failure leads to success...at some point |
| 05:09.22 | b3d0u1n | I've spent probably 2 weeks getting my tp exactly the way I want it |
| 05:09.28 | b3d0u1n | so.. starting over isn't an option |
| 05:10.03 | rwhitby | sethron: so you frobbed the tokens? |
| 05:10.33 | rwhitby | b3d0u1n: you realise that having said that, you will now have an unexplained crash which wipes your device, right? |
| 05:10.49 | wrea | lol |
| 05:11.01 | sethron | I have not attempted yet. unsure where to start. |
| 05:11.13 | b3d0u1n | Yeah, though it is an ssd so i'm less worried about that |
| 05:11.28 | lingfish | rwhitby: I know... I went to git and peeked at how you were doing it; could have just told me I could to novacom "run"'s and expect good stuff on stdout :P you forget I've been around the block a few times heh |
| 05:11.45 | rwhitby | heh, it ain't the memory chip which crashes and corrupts things ... |
| 05:12.14 | rwhitby | lingfish: '"make backup" in meta-doctor' is far more concise and precise |
| 05:13.13 | b3d0u1n | Does that create a clone of the entire filesystem you can restore with? |
| 05:13.37 | lingfish | rwhitby: in my books, nah... it meant pulling more crap down, building blah blah etc etc... this was simpler, only needed to pull a few pics off it. Now I wait for its batt to hit 25%. Wish you could just sit the phone in shutdown state to charge insted of it always wanting to bloody well boot (which is where it'll freeze after 1 min of boot) |
| 05:13.37 | sethron | rwhitby: most of my frobbing led to these irc logs. may I have a hint please? |
| 05:17.00 | sethron | I have show properties and emailed the xml. |
| 05:18.56 | rwhitby | sethron: unpack,patch, cp webOS/castle.xml . |
| 05:19.00 | rwhitby | edit castle.xml |
| 05:19.09 | rwhitby | CUSTOM_XML=... patch |
| 05:21.22 | sethron | with what meta-doctor jar? |
| 05:21.54 | rwhitby | actually, the Pre 3 impersonation page is a good starting point |
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| 05:22.47 | rwhitby | sethron: http://www.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Pre_3_Impersonation&oldid=19223 salted to taste for your device |
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| 05:27.16 | sethron | rwhitby: what script in meta-doctor would be for a Franken Unlocked Pre-? |
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| 05:31.27 | rwhitby | sethron: are you looking at the specific historic version I liked or the latest version of that wiki page? you don't want the latest version |
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| 05:33.04 | rwhitby | there is no pre-written script for what you want to do |
| 05:35.37 | sethron | hmm, I may have to push this back for a while. I'm happy with the wifi-only pre with 2.1.0. it sure is tempting. maybe do it at SCALE? |
| 05:36.03 | ka6sox-away | sethron, do what @ scale? |
| 05:37.15 | sethron | take a OG pre with a GSM comm board, no power or volume buttons, and put 2.2.4 on it? |
| 05:38.42 | sethron | its currently functioning with 2.1 and delta dagger. |
| 05:39.05 | ka6sox-away | oh, okay |
| 05:42.35 | sethron | I gotta bounce, have a great new year, y'all. |
| 05:42.51 | dwc- | no buttons as in the physical button is missing but you can trigger the functions? or the electronic bits don't function? |
| 05:44.34 | sethron | dwc: volume buttons shot. power button may be able to toggle, but not probable. it's a true franken. |
| 05:46.01 | sethron | rwhitby: thanks for the link, a frobbing I go. |
| 05:48.36 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, you about? |
| 05:48.50 | jcsullins | yep |
| 05:49.21 | ka6sox-away | you played with the bootargs @ all? |
| 05:50.47 | ka6sox-away | trying to see, it looks by default they disable the console. |
| 05:51.15 | jcsullins | u talking about framebuffer console .. or real console? |
| 05:51.23 | ka6sox-away | real |
| 05:51.28 | summatusmentis | wait, rwhitby, Tailor is usable? |
| 05:51.35 | ka6sox-away | summatusmentis, I use it |
| 05:51.43 | jcsullins | summatusmentis: me too |
| 05:51.50 | summatusmentis | grah! I should get on that |
| 05:52.03 | summatusmentis | I hadn't heard anything in a while, and so I assumed it was still in pre-testing phase |
| 05:52.11 | jcsullins | ka6sox-away: I have some, but would not know where to expect output ... |
| 05:52.34 | ka6sox-away | ya, we don't know about the pinmuxing |
| 05:52.58 | ka6sox-away | I should see if its in the boardfile. |
| 05:53.33 | jcsullins | I might be able to play w/ it some if had an idea what hardware to connect to check for output ... |
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| 05:54.16 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, I use my scope and a A/V cable from a camcorder |
| 05:54.44 | jcsullins | haven't seen anything come out yet, I guess? |
| 05:55.24 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: I'll move it into the beta feed so you feel better about it ;) |
| 05:55.42 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, yes, I have...out of the yellow cable. |
| 05:57.02 | jcsullins | humm, what pins does the yellow cable connect to ... I think I'd need to hack into a iPhone headphone/mic cable to test ... (thinking that'd work) |
| 05:58.39 | ka6sox-away | it would be teh "mic" connection |
| 06:03.46 | jcsullins | is this 3G or wifi tpad your testing with? I think the 3g models shares the CONSOLE_UART RX gpio pin with somethine else ... |
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| 06:03.56 | Jack87 | ka6sox-away!!! hello |
| 06:04.24 | ka6sox-away | Jack87, Jack87 ....lets see...I seem to remember someone with that nick....hmmmm.... |
| 06:05.11 | Jack87 | ka6sox-away, I knew that guy! he smelled funny |
| 06:05.25 | ka6sox-away | and his mother dressed him funny too. |
| 06:05.30 | Jack87 | :-) |
| 06:05.35 | Jack87 | its true |
| 06:05.47 | ka6sox-away | are you coming to SCaLE? |
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| 06:07.50 | dwc- | wishes hotels weren't so expensive |
| 06:08.01 | Jack87 | ka6sox-away, still up in the air. i wont know till school starts and i have my syllabus |
| 06:08.20 | ka6sox-away | dwc-, where are you coming from? |
| 06:08.27 | dwc- | sjc |
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| 06:08.50 | rwhitby | jcsullins: I see debug uart as gpio 117 and 118 with no muxing |
| 06:09.12 | dwc- | can't figure out how to justify trying to make work cover some of it :p |
| 06:09.13 | rwhitby | (in gpiomux-tenderloin.c) |
| 06:09.57 | rrix | hmmm, scale |
| 06:10.16 | wrea | scale is a little far for me |
| 06:10.36 | dwc- | southwest flies there from you too |
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| 06:17.07 | Jack87 | did i say syllabus? i meant syllabuie |
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| 06:30.20 | keith | ill be at scale |
| 06:30.29 | keith | with XBMC, but sure to stop by the webos internals booth too :) |
| 06:35.26 | b3d0u1n | Just got prey working on the tp |
| 06:36.00 | Jack87 | is praying to be at scale this year... timing is way off with semester just starting! |
| 06:36.26 | Jack87 | lives in Utah |
| 06:40.43 | rrix | needs to poke some local folks about driving over to SCaLE |
| 06:40.56 | jcsullins | rwhitby: ahh, this was not in tenderloin kernel src, but 3.0 kernel src (in gpiomux-8x60) ... does not set gpio 117 for console if CONFIG_USB_PEHCI_HCD defined (the 3g module) |
| 06:40.58 | b3d0u1n | what is that |
| 06:51.12 | ka6sox-away | interesting |
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| 06:51.29 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, so that means a 3G TP won't do it eh? |
| 06:51.31 | ka6sox-away | wierd. |
| 06:52.03 | rwhitby | ka6sox-away: well, that's not in the topaz kernel |
| 06:52.12 | jcsullins | not sure if it applies or not ... and it is only the rx line ... just something to consider |
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| 08:09.18 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, you still here? |
| 08:09.24 | ka6sox-away | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/File:TP_Serial.png |
| 08:10.12 | wrea | :) |
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| 08:15.40 | jcsullins | ka6sox-away: so X1 is TRRS connector? |
| 08:17.30 | ka6sox-away | correct |
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| 08:19.08 | ka6sox-away | R1 = 0 ohm |
| 08:19.54 | ka6sox-away | C2-R6 is a Series pass filter |
| 08:20.17 | ka6sox-away | probably tuned up for 115.2khz |
| 08:20.35 | ka6sox-away | (or at least above what we could expect to see as "audio" |
| 08:22.07 | ka6sox-away | I would suspect that Tip is RX from outside |
| 08:22.20 | ka6sox-away | and R(2) is TX from TP. |
| 08:23.25 | bhuey | hey |
| 08:23.42 | ka6sox-away | yo! |
| 08:23.56 | jcsullins | that's what u saw on scope? r(2) is mic, right? |
| 08:23.56 | ka6sox-away | correct |
| 08:25.48 | jcsullins | I need to get some trrs connector that has some real wires coming from it ... don't know if I can solder anything to those el-cheap-o iPhone headset things |
| 08:26.10 | ka6sox-away | what I used for testing was the TRRS from my CamCorder |
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| 08:29.05 | jcsullins | I would guess connecting to something that does ttl serial would be in order ? |
| 08:30.07 | jcsullins | or serial at correct voltage, I guess ... |
| 08:30.39 | ka6sox-away | the port seems to be 3V |
| 08:33.16 | jcsullins | I think my arduino might work at 3v |
| 08:35.24 | ka6sox-away | 5V..will kill the TP |
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| 08:37.04 | jcsullins | then must make sure arduino is @3 NOT 5 :) |
| 08:38.04 | jcsullins | I would assume 3.3 would be fine ... ? |
| 08:39.12 | ka6sox-away | yes |
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| 08:48.04 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, anything? |
| 08:48.42 | jcsullins | don't have trrs connector that I can solder to yet ... :( |
| 08:48.50 | ka6sox-away | ah, okay |
| 08:48.54 | jcsullins | or connect to ... |
| 08:48.59 | ka6sox-away | right |
| 08:49.04 | ka6sox-away | well...I'll keep poking |
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| 08:49.29 | jcsullins | do you have something connected that understands serial ... or just scope? |
| 08:49.38 | ka6sox-away | both |
| 08:50.01 | ka6sox-away | the Sleeve is + |
| 08:50.09 | ka6sox-away | everything else is - |
| 08:50.36 | jcsullins | thx. so, I assume nothing reasonable has come out the serial end |
| 08:52.03 | ka6sox-away | I saw it 1X |
| 08:52.05 | ka6sox-away | but never since |
| 08:52.09 | ka6sox-away | which is wierd. |
| 08:52.42 | jcsullins | it = ? readable output |
| 08:53.10 | lingfish | gack... I'm doctoring to 2.2.4, and seeing this :/ |
| 08:53.10 | lingfish | INFO: Customization: $ Open Port /dev/modemdiag Failed(2=No such file or directory)! |
| 08:53.20 | lingfish | eventually it fails... anyone else seen that? |
| 08:54.15 | lingfish | WARNING: Flash Failure |
| 08:54.16 | lingfish | err -1 "Error Updating Modem PRI/PRL!!!" |
| 08:54.29 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, yes, console output |
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| 10:00.42 | Flashpass | has anyone had the issue of the create function being called twice? |
| 10:01.53 | jcsullins | ka6sox-away: hs_uart=1 |
| 10:02.40 | ka6sox-away | I think I need to sort out how the connector is detected and what button to push (before it was a fluke it seems) |
| 10:03.01 | jcsullins | u tried above on cmdline? |
| 10:03.13 | ka6sox-away | no, but I could |
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| 10:09.58 | lingfish | Can someone paste the inode entry for /dev/modemdiag from a Pre 2 2.2.x please? |
| 10:10.37 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, no joy |
| 10:11.43 | jcsullins | yeah, looking closer, that only tells kernel to disable headset jack detection |
| 10:12.26 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, I suspect that Bootie is doing headset detection and then looking for a button to be pushed or a pin to be grounded. |
| 10:13.29 | jcsullins | makes sense |
| 10:30.50 | ka6sox-away | enough hacking for 1 night |
| 10:47.27 | rrix | ka6sox-away: what are you up to, anyways? serial consoles and such, I gather, but consoles for communicating in which direction? |
| 10:47.45 | rrix | Like, are you communicating with outside consoles or is it an interface in to the device? |
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| 11:49.22 | Jack87 | ka6sox-away, go sleep |
| 11:59.11 | rwhitby | rrix: serial console for more extreme kernel hacking |
| 11:59.33 | rrix | fun stuff |
| 11:59.41 | rrix | holds the kernel at arm's length |
| 11:59.43 | rrix | :P |
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| 15:17.00 | samthewildone | So I installed PreWare and nothing special... |
| 15:17.12 | samthewildone | just got an overclocked brick with a few patches... |
| 15:17.39 | samthewildone | Wish there was a dedicated youtube app like all the other tablets. Chris.... even the playbook has a dedicated youtube app. |
| 15:20.52 | dwc- | I don't know why they got rid of it in 3..., I liked the app |
| 15:26.21 | jtrucks | the youtube site works just fine though |
| 15:27.22 | dwc- | it does work ok, but I prefer the trimmed down app UI ... and that it fed the mp4 instead of the flash video |
| 15:28.20 | jtrucks | good point on the file format |
| 15:29.17 | PuffTheMagic_ | woot |
| 15:29.23 | PuffTheMagic_ | wTerm has hit beta feeds |
| 15:29.42 | dwc- | gj autobuilder |
| 15:29.53 | jtrucks | wTerm? |
| 15:30.11 | jtrucks | is that a webos terminal app, so I wouldn't have to use X and xterm? |
| 15:31.00 | dwc- | yes! |
| 15:31.11 | PuffTheMagic_ | jtrucks: its not complete yet |
| 15:31.17 | PuffTheMagic_ | it based on old sdlterminal |
| 15:31.23 | PuffTheMagic_ | but sdlterminal fails most of vttest |
| 15:31.26 | jtrucks | ooooh |
| 15:31.27 | PuffTheMagic_ | idk how people put up with that |
| 15:31.42 | PuffTheMagic_ | jtrucks: but wterm is an enyo hybrid app |
| 15:31.47 | jtrucks | sweet |
| 15:31.55 | PuffTheMagic_ | with builtin vkb |
| 15:31.58 | PuffTheMagic_ | 74keys |
| 15:32.11 | PuffTheMagic_ | arrows, function, alt,ctrl,esc etc |
| 15:32.21 | jtrucks | now that's badass. |
| 15:32.27 | jtrucks | especially esc |
| 15:32.29 | jtrucks | and alt |
| 15:32.36 | PuffTheMagic_ | well alt dont do shit yet |
| 15:32.40 | PuffTheMagic_ | idk what it should send |
| 15:32.41 | jtrucks | I really with the HP BT keyboard had esc |
| 15:32.51 | PuffTheMagic_ | someone suggested it should send \033 |
| 15:34.43 | PuffTheMagic_ | jtrucks: ya so i will be working on getting wterm to pass everything in vttest to make irssi and color htop work perfectly |
| 15:34.51 | PuffTheMagic_ | then i will get on to more UI related stuff |
| 15:34.54 | jtrucks | ooooh. |
| 15:34.59 | jtrucks | irssi is my holy grail on that :) |
| 15:35.14 | jtrucks | if I could write code worth a shit, I'd have already worked on this. |
| 15:35.20 | jtrucks | but you really don't want me coding |
| 15:35.27 | jtrucks | I'm a good tester though :) |
| 15:37.46 | jtrucks | this is my irssi setup: http://jessetrucks.net/freenodestuff/jtrucksirssi-20110218.png |
| 15:37.52 | jtrucks | it uses a lot of colors in other windows though |
| 15:38.03 | jtrucks | and now nicks get auto-assigned colors in channels. |
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| 15:43.09 | PuffTheMagic_ | well working on irssi is sorta anti wIRC, but irssi and htop use nearly all xterm escape codes |
| 15:43.13 | PuffTheMagic_ | so they are good tests |
| 15:45.01 | Brybry | wterm related: pipe on the keyboard was outputting as 0 yesterday but otherwise I haven't really had much of a chance to look at it |
| 15:45.34 | Brybry | been banging my head against liblunaservice/lunaservice.h (with decent success) |
| 15:50.19 | PuffTheMagic_ | oh yeah |
| 15:50.24 | PuffTheMagic_ | i have to fix some of those |
| 15:50.41 | PuffTheMagic_ | Brybry: those are valid bug reports if u want to mark all those down that do that |
| 15:50.55 | PuffTheMagic_ | put them all in 1 ticket |
| 15:51.16 | Brybry | sure |
| 15:51.26 | jtrucks | i have to use irssi since all my staff related scripts and authentication (including requiring coming from certain static IPs to get my oper privs) are all setup on my server's irssi config. |
| 15:51.43 | jtrucks | wirc is fine for just dropping in quickly but for serious IRC work, it isn't enough for me :( |
| 15:51.48 | jtrucks | no other client is really. |
| 15:52.25 | jtrucks | I believe I paid for the wIRC app... |
| 15:52.29 | jtrucks | goes to check |
| 15:52.34 | PuffTheMagic_ | jtrucks: well start testing irssi with wterm |
| 15:52.40 | jtrucks | I will :) |
| 15:52.52 | jtrucks | later today I'll fire up the wifi hotspot on my phone and give it a spin |
| 15:52.57 | PuffTheMagic_ | i only really want to hear about vkb issues |
| 15:53.08 | PuffTheMagic_ | at this time |
| 15:53.16 | PuffTheMagic_ | as i am working on on the VT commands |
| 15:53.17 | jtrucks | okay |
| 15:55.03 | rrix | oh nice, PuffTheMagic_ finally strangled sdlterminal in to working? |
| 15:55.10 | rrix | I gave up on even trying to build that thing :\ |
| 15:55.20 | rrix | gives his hugs to PuffTheMagic_ |
| 15:55.43 | Brybry | it was really very simple =x |
| 15:56.02 | Brybry | good ol' case sensitive bugs |
| 15:56.51 | rrix | fiddles with his friend's thingomatic |
| 15:58.02 | PuffTheMagic_ | rrix: ya Brybry figured out the secret to getting the jailer happy |
| 15:58.12 | rrix | Y'all rock :) |
| 15:58.22 | PuffTheMagic_ | i already had the plugin/hybrid enyo stuff working |
| 15:58.31 | PuffTheMagic_ | just needed the jailer to be happy |
| 15:59.29 | PuffTheMagic_ | i just cant believe people put up with sdlterminal as it was |
| 15:59.54 | PuffTheMagic_ | people must not have used it seriously |
| 16:00.11 | PuffTheMagic_ | but then again, i guess its sorta hard to use seriously on a phone sized screen |
| 16:00.18 | rrix | Yeah, kinda is. |
| 16:00.18 | PuffTheMagic_ | esp in portrait mode |
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| 16:09.20 | comhack | Ok, so I ended up somehow borking WebOS install on my Touchpad 32gb and tried to run WebOS Doctor to restore it. Anyway, I attemped this numerous times and it completes fine but then I get the HP logo for a few seconds and then it looks like it restarts. So pretty much, the HP logo keeps flashing on and off. Anyway, I know this device is next to impossible to brick. So can anyone point me into the another way to restore the device to |
| 16:09.35 | comhack | I setup Archlinux on the touchpad alongside Android/WebOS and then when I rebooted into WebOS, all of my icons were missing so I tried to tried to restore it using WebOS and that is when this started happening. I am currently in USB mode but do not know what else to do considering webos Doctor is not working. I run LInux on my desktop machines but do have a Win7 partition if needed. Can anyone point me into the right direction to man |
| 16:09.42 | comhack | Thanks |
| 16:10.02 | comhack | Also, I have tried this numerous times with the same results |
| 16:10.31 | comhack | I have usb access enabled so there has to be a way to manually do this |
| 16:17.02 | comhack | I have novaterm installed and running I am reading the man page for that |
| 16:18.17 | comhack | off to work for a few hours Will read the scroll |
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| 16:54.10 | fudge_ | I have a couple palm pre- motherboards for sale |
| 16:54.17 | fudge_ | anyone intrested? |
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| 17:02.45 | dwc- | RagingMind: works fine, as long as there's enough space free |
| 17:05.48 | dwc- | PuffTheMagic_: was sdlterminal better or worse than terminus? |
| 17:07.55 | dwc- | comhack: are you running the doctor from the command line? if so, pastebin the output... if not, do so |
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| 17:14.55 | PuffTheMagic_ | dwc-: much better, terminus was based on an abandoned terminal project by the E17 devs using evas/sdl |
| 17:15.02 | PuffTheMagic_ | it was software rendering based |
| 17:15.13 | PuffTheMagic_ | and i never ran vttest on it |
| 17:15.17 | PuffTheMagic_ | that was long ago |
| 17:15.23 | PuffTheMagic_ | there are 2 other sdl terminals |
| 17:15.28 | PuffTheMagic_ | sdlterm and sdlterminal |
| 17:15.39 | PuffTheMagic_ | sdlterm is also software based and slow |
| 17:15.51 | PuffTheMagic_ | sdlterminal is GL based and FAST |
| 17:16.19 | PuffTheMagic_ | i dont think i've ever talked to the devs of either of the last 2 i mentioned |
| 17:16.35 | PuffTheMagic_ | but sdlterminal is def the best platform to move forward with |
| 17:18.31 | dwc- | well, when I got my phone back in feb, (ok end of january, last scale) I think I tried every single terminal |
| 17:18.43 | dwc- | sdlterminal I don't think I ever got working |
| 17:19.23 | dwc- | and it's 2.x so no old-terminal, so it was terminus with the broken redraw and the old xterm |
| 17:20.42 | PuffTheMagic_ | well, to be honest, wterm support on phones isnt super high on my priority list, |
| 17:20.50 | PuffTheMagic_ | it someone wants join in and help in that thats cool |
| 17:21.11 | dwc- | yea, you with your pixi =] |
| 17:21.41 | PuffTheMagic_ | well i have enyo on my pixi |
| 17:21.44 | PuffTheMagic_ | so, it would work |
| 17:21.59 | PuffTheMagic_ | its just that any phone the screen space is too small to do anything |
| 17:22.18 | PuffTheMagic_ | the layout i have now on the TP is 145x30 |
| 17:22.28 | PuffTheMagic_ | which makes most apps happy |
| 17:22.30 | dwc- | pfft, I do all sorts of things, missing a number of the useful keys anyways =] |
| 17:22.51 | PuffTheMagic_ | dwc-: well then help with wterm on phones ;) |
| 17:23.13 | PuffTheMagic_ | fork it on github and send me pull requests |
| 17:23.20 | PuffTheMagic_ | i do need to add code to hide the vkb |
| 17:23.31 | PuffTheMagic_ | and to handle orientation changes and resizing |
| 17:23.44 | dwc- | 61x46 in terminus, 51x36 in xterm. using screen in terminus doesn't work so well, heh |
| 17:24.29 | PuffTheMagic_ | well the font in wterm is pretty short |
| 17:24.57 | PuffTheMagic_ | if I figure out why the erase commands dont work right i will add the resizing code |
| 17:25.03 | PuffTheMagic_ | and the orientation and vkb hiding stuff |
| 17:25.07 | PuffTheMagic_ | unless u want to get started on that |
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| 17:26.45 | PuffTheMagic_ | dwc-: wterm/sdlterminal also uses TTF fonts |
| 17:26.49 | PuffTheMagic_ | so changing font size is easy |
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| 17:27.06 | PuffTheMagic_ | right now its on 12pt |
| 17:29.17 | PuffTheMagic_ | nice |
| 17:29.25 | PuffTheMagic_ | get 204x35 with 10pt |
| 17:29.37 | RichT23 | arrr meta-doctor has moved to git hub =) |
| 17:32.55 | dwc- | PuffTheMagic_: we'll see... I certainly wouldnt' mind working toward a better terminal for my own use |
| 17:33.34 | dwc- | should be able to save some real estate on the phones... don't need a full vkb |
| 17:33.39 | PuffTheMagic_ | right |
| 17:33.54 | PuffTheMagic_ | i plan on adding some different layouts |
| 17:33.59 | PuffTheMagic_ | like portrait mode needs a new one |
| 17:34.14 | PuffTheMagic_ | and phones might just need 1 thin row of special keys |
| 17:34.49 | PuffTheMagic_ | dwc-: having a parter in crime helps me keep momentum |
| 17:35.00 | dwc- | blame oil? |
| 17:36.06 | PuffTheMagic_ | i mean projects like freeTether and wIRC had help with |
| 17:36.16 | PuffTheMagic_ | and they came out good and fairly complete |
| 17:36.37 | PuffTheMagic_ | Tide and Mendeley are in limbo cause i have no one to keep me motivated |
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| 17:46.00 | PuffTheMagic_ | does wTerm show up in preware for anyone? |
| 17:52.07 | wrea | PuffTheMagic, Its there for me |
| 17:53.16 | dwc- | hold on, gotta re-add the beta feeds |
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| 18:03.30 | dwc- | yep I have it, and I can even update it from whatever version you gave me before |
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| 18:08.36 | oilsworkn | dont blame oil |
| 18:09.50 | wrea | i thought the saying was "when in doubt, blame oil" |
| 18:10.12 | oilsworkn | that was never the saying |
| 18:12.14 | wrea | If I say it enough, it'll catch on, I'm sure :P |
| 18:16.13 | RichT23 | hoot |
| 18:24.18 | RichT23 | humm this `zip` app that meta-doctor uses, its not a standard app |
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| 18:24.34 | RichT23 | can we get the meta-doc wiki page updated please ;) |
| 18:24.51 | RichT23 | i dont seem to have permsions to fix it =) |
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| 18:37.28 | dwc- | drop 'ka6sox-away' and 'rwhitby' and your wiki username in chat/pm and one of them will fix it |
| 18:37.39 | dwc- | and the zip app is a command line tool |
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| 18:56.10 | comhack | dwc-: just got home will do that |
| 18:56.11 | RichT23 | thanks dwc- =) |
| 18:56.30 | RichT23 | and good idea =) |
| 18:57.38 | RichT23 | rwhitby: ka6sox-away: can you please add `sudo apt-get install zip` to the Linux section of the Application:MetaDoctor wiki page =) |
| 18:58.03 | RichT23 | rwhitby: ka6sox-away: just becouse it not a "standard" app ;) |
| 19:01.05 | ka6sox-away | RichT23, why? |
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| 19:03.04 | RichT23 | well `zip` is not included in most linux os as standard |
| 19:03.46 | RichT23 | and the instructions include git and sun java, so why not another required app? |
| 19:04.48 | comhack | its running now dwc- |
| 19:05.24 | dwc- | RichT23: ohhh, I didn't read that correctly, I thought you meant the zip app on webos |
| 19:05.32 | dwc- | oh well, nevermind |
| 19:06.08 | RichT23 | oh no, the zip app used during meta-doctors make |
| 19:06.15 | dwc- | yea, I see that now |
| 19:06.32 | dwc- | hm, in theory, the dependency on 'zip' could be easily removed and replaced with 'jar' |
| 19:07.58 | RichT23 | thats a good point, i did not look at why zip was being used |
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| 19:23.08 | comhack | dwc-: Here is my output from Doctor http://pastebin.com/xvm9KN74 |
| 19:23.32 | comhack | INFO: Flash End time (Success)1325186201870 |
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| 19:46.52 | PuffTheMagic_ | Brybry: just fixed those key issues so u dont need to file a bug |
| 19:47.06 | PuffTheMagic_ | they will work in 0.1.7 which im pushing to autobuilder |
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| 19:49.00 | Brybry | okies |
| 19:51.30 | comhack | ugh this sux |
| 19:52.05 | comhack | I am reading the log but I do not see an issue |
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| 22:34.01 | RagingMind | pre3 ordered :) |
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| 23:38.54 | lingfish | Wow... loving how the Palm Profile site is still broken |
| 23:39.12 | lingfish | RagingMind: nice one.. you'll love it :D |
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