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| 00:09.18 | wrea | apparently you cant have an upstart script wait on more than one thing to start or stop before running |
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| 00:46.49 | daniel_n | can i get MHS for webos 2.1? |
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| 01:11.11 | wrea | rwhitby, right now for avahi and pulse I'm using the latest dbus. But using the dbus version from 1.4.x has been in the back of my mind. Should I just stick with the current version? |
| 01:25.50 | rwhitby | wrea: are these things going to run on 1.4.x ? |
| 01:29.08 | wrea | Not specifically as I dont have a 1.4.x device. But if someone tested a package with some changed there'd be no reason why avahi couldnt run on the devices |
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| 01:43.39 | rwhitby | just wondering whether you'd want to reuse the 1.4.5 dbus version in that case. |
| 01:47.45 | wrea | Yeah |
| 01:48.43 | wrea | If i stick with the current version, I'm close to done with dbus and avahi |
| 01:48.57 | wrea | Just need to test the pulse modules |
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| 02:07.01 | PuffTheMagic_ | daniel_n: dont want freeTether? |
| 02:07.17 | discord | hi all, i've been trying to remove my ubuntu partition since i'm about to send tp in for warranty |
| 02:07.43 | discord | but I've been running into some fsck error |
| 02:07.51 | rwhitby | discord: have you tried the complete LVM reinit at the end of the recovery page? |
| 02:08.37 | discord | I tried something similar |
| 02:08.43 | discord | I've removed the partitions |
| 02:09.01 | discord | I was running fsck, and have been recieving errors |
| 02:09.18 | discord | i guess maybe i should try running metadoctor? |
| 02:09.50 | rwhitby | have you done http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover#Complete_filesystem_creation ? |
| 02:13.12 | discord | rwhitby: I'm going to try webos doctor and see if that works |
| 02:13.19 | discord | rwhitby: thanks |
| 02:21.32 | discord | is there a way to download webos doctor without using the jnlp / javawebstart file? I seem to be getting some exceptions when I try the web start |
| 02:21.43 | cryptk | there sure is |
| 02:21.52 | cryptk | direct links are on the wiki |
| 02:22.13 | cryptk | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Doctor_Versions |
| 02:22.32 | cryptk | note that the links for older versions won't work, they don't store ancient ones on their servers |
| 02:22.39 | cryptk | the URL's are just there for "posterity" |
| 02:22.52 | cryptk | but the last version or two of each kind /should/ be available |
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| 02:23.29 | cryptk | and there is a list of MD5's at the bottom so you can verify your download |
| 02:26.48 | discord | cryptk: thanks, actually the jnlp file listed the url also |
| 02:27.19 | cryptk | yep |
| 02:27.23 | cryptk | that is where we get them from |
| 02:27.34 | cryptk | just open it up in a text editor and grab the pieces and put it together |
| 02:28.23 | discord | looks like im having java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid literal/length code at java.util.zip.InflaterInputStream.read(InflateInputSream.java:147) |
| 02:28.46 | discord | I'll see what happens when I try the jar file without webstart |
| 02:33.38 | discord | ok think my problem is openJDK, I thought I removed it, but it seems to have come back. *running debian |
| 02:33.59 | cryptk | openJDK6 has some problems, openJDK7 is solid |
| 02:34.08 | cryptk | and there is NO sun java 7 |
| 02:41.14 | daniel_n | does anyone think sprint would care if i use 6gb's per month in data usage? |
| 02:42.08 | cryptk | nah |
| 02:42.15 | cryptk | they are still unlimited (for now) |
| 02:42.31 | daniel_n | lol |
| 02:42.54 | daniel_n | gonna load webos 2.1 and MHS :3 |
| 02:43.02 | daniel_n | free internet for 3 other people |
| 02:44.03 | daniel_n | just picked up a factory refurbished pre for $40 |
| 02:44.07 | discord | cryptk: i read that openJDK7 is now the standard java reference implementation, however I don't have it installed |
| 02:44.34 | cryptk | discord, you are indeed correct |
| 02:44.45 | cryptk | there will be no more sun java's |
| 02:44.53 | cryptk | oracle "open sourced" it |
| 02:45.53 | moo | rwhitby: should i submit the "veer (2.1.2, not 2.1.0) only version for CN ISO date format" as an update, or as a new patch? |
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| 02:46.25 | rwhitby | new patch, like is done with the Advanced Configuration patches |
| 02:46.42 | moo | :) |
| 02:47.00 | xXBlackChaosXx | Is this the proper channel to ask for help regarding my hp touchpad ? |
| 02:47.33 | rwhitby | if it's running webOS homebrew, yes. |
| 02:47.59 | xXBlackChaosXx | yes |
| 02:48.12 | xXBlackChaosXx | i'm having trouble over clocking my touchpad |
| 02:48.37 | discord | cryptk: sun open source'd java, they made the openjdk. I believe oracle will still be producing "other" java implementations |
| 02:48.46 | rwhitby | xXBlackChaosXx: have you followed the instructions in http://bit.ly/phd-ac ? |
| 02:48.54 | xXBlackChaosXx | when i try to add the pre.is.awesome feed i geta error saying something about it being obselete |
| 02:49.05 | xXBlackChaosXx | i'm trying to get the f15c eagle kernal |
| 02:49.25 | rwhitby | and what exactly does the error message say, including any URLs it provides for you to read? |
| 02:50.04 | xXBlackChaosXx | brb |
| 02:50.57 | rwhitby | moo: is that the lot for today? |
| 02:51.00 | xXBlackChaosXx | let me try to add it again so i can tell you |
| 02:51.39 | rwhitby | you don't need to tell me, I know exactly what it says. but you do need to read the error message yourself and do what it says ... |
| 02:51.46 | moo | rwhitby: yeah. you're my angel |
| 02:53.02 | rwhitby | xXBlackChaosXx: and you should tell the author of whatever instructions you are following that they need to link instead of copy. |
| 02:53.28 | discord | daniel_n: how do you get free internet on a pre? |
| 02:53.38 | xXBlackChaosXx | it says "The intructions you are following are obselete. See Http://testing.preware.org/" |
| 02:54.30 | xXBlackChaosXx | i read what you wrote in xda rwitby but all it says is "see Http://testing.preware.org/" |
| 02:54.34 | xXBlackChaosXx | what does that mean |
| 02:55.02 | xXBlackChaosXx | that doesn't really tell me much |
| 02:55.04 | rwhitby | "see http://testing.preware.org/" <- you're asking what that means? |
| 02:55.12 | xXBlackChaosXx | lol |
| 02:55.14 | xXBlackChaosXx | no |
| 02:55.45 | xXBlackChaosXx | i know what's that but what do i do? do i open it in the touchpad's browser |
| 02:55.55 | rwhitby | "the instructions you are following are obsolete" <- you're asking what that means? |
| 02:56.06 | xXBlackChaosXx | yes |
| 02:56.34 | rwhitby | which bit is not clear? "the instructions you are following are obsolete" can't be parsed in that many ways .. |
| 02:57.03 | xXBlackChaosXx | the problem is that i don't know what to do after that |
| 02:57.10 | xXBlackChaosXx | it doesn't add the feed |
| 02:57.37 | jcsullins | xXBlackChaosXx: it means you should read the instructions at the link provided ... |
| 02:57.41 | rwhitby | "see http://testing.preware.org/" hasn't given you a clue? |
| 02:58.04 | rwhitby | is open to suggestions on how to reword "see http://testing.preware.org/" ... |
| 02:59.05 | xXBlackChaosXx | thanks for the help, I know i'm a noob, no need to make me feel worse, |
| 02:59.20 | moo | that's all :) |
| 03:00.06 | rwhitby | xXBlackChaosXx: it's a serious question - how else could I have worded that error dialog to make you click the link and read the page at the end of it? |
| 03:00.07 | moo | yet i wonder what should i do with the "alternative version for 'after if you install com.treo8.app.callshow'" |
| 03:00.45 | moo | maybe i should ask the author of com.treo8.app.callshow not to replace the file i want to patch |
| 03:01.43 | xXBlackChaosXx | "You must never repost or copy or rewrite these instructions anywhere else, but must always refer others directly to this page using only the URL" |
| 03:01.45 | xXBlackChaosXx | i see |
| 03:02.22 | rwhitby | xXBlackChaosXx: you are experiencing the result of someone not following that rule, and leaving obsolete instructions bit-rotting on the internet |
| 03:02.51 | xXBlackChaosXx | sorry bout that |
| 03:03.02 | rwhitby | If they had simply pointed you to http://testing.preware.org/ to install the testing feeds, you would have no problem. |
| 03:03.19 | cryptk | as new things come out, and better ways to do things are found, the instructions change, that is why we like people to link to our instructions rather than copying and pasting them |
| 03:03.25 | rwhitby | please do go chastise the author of the instructions you are following, so they think twice about it before doing it again |
| 03:03.41 | xXBlackChaosXx | i will |
| 03:04.05 | cryptk | loud screaming... while optional... is encouraged ;) |
| 03:04.24 | xXBlackChaosXx | thanks rwhitby |
| 03:04.43 | rwhitby | In general, people who copy instead of linking are either needing some education, or trying to steal credit. |
| 03:05.06 | xXBlackChaosXx | agree |
| 03:05.20 | rwhitby | determine which they are before deciding whether to yell or not ;) |
| 03:05.28 | xXBlackChaosXx | one more thing |
| 03:05.36 | xXBlackChaosXx | how do i gain access to the linux command line |
| 03:05.49 | rwhitby | xecutah in Preware |
| 03:05.58 | xXBlackChaosXx | thanks |
| 03:06.38 | daniel_n | rwhitby: how's webos 2.1 on pre-? |
| 03:07.22 | rwhitby | I would not recommend it. Not enough memory in a Pre- to run well. |
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| 03:10.03 | daniel_n | :/ so much for high hopes on that lol |
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| 03:12.51 | daniel_n | rwhitby: do you think i'd be missing some phone calls due to low memory? |
| 03:15.20 | rwhitby | depends what you run on it. background processes are the killers. |
| 03:15.25 | rwhitby | bbl |
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| 03:44.24 | medialuna | Hey |
| 03:46.14 | moo | i add /bin/nice so it becomes "exec /bin/nice /bin/node --max_old..." in /etc/event.d/node_fork_server. it really help to avoid lagging when background app is busy doing something |
| 03:47.38 | moo | i don't know how to make a patch for it this time. as AUPT tends to create .webosinternals.orig file as backup. but no new file should be created in /etc/event.d/ |
| 03:55.46 | xXBlackChaosXx | just installed warthog kernal and now when i restart my touchpad i get linux commands speeding thrue |
| 03:56.14 | rwhitby | xXBlackChaosXx: yes, that's what beta testers should expect to see |
| 03:56.20 | xXBlackChaosXx | oh ok |
| 03:56.30 | rwhitby | otherwise how would you report an early boot problem correctly? |
| 03:56.48 | xXBlackChaosXx | true |
| 03:57.07 | rwhitby | moo: sconix is working on AUPT-5 and 6 which will fix that |
| 04:26.22 | bnceo | wut up peeps |
| 04:35.01 | moo | rwhitby: it seems my patches is changed by your git and it's not applying well. i use a/usr/palm/frameworks/globalization/version/1.0/concatenated.js while you use a/usr/palm/frameworks/globalization/submission/48/concatenated.js |
| 04:36.02 | rwhitby | moo: the patches are applied against a virgin doctor, and regenerated from that |
| 04:37.22 | moo | yeah i know. /usr/palm/frameworks/globalization/version/1.0/ is a symlink to /usr/palm/frameworks/globalization/submission/48. but the version 48 changes from version to version |
| 04:37.42 | moo | that's why i use version/1.0/ instead of submission/48, to reduce patch alternatives |
| 04:39.07 | moo | maybe the patch applies to your doctor files, but not for my veer |
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| 04:44.34 | moo | i would suggest everyone use version/1.0 for framework (except mojo/*) instead of something like submission/48/. and skip file submission/48xxx.js (can't reach this file with version/1.0/...) |
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| 04:49.46 | rwhitby | moo: the patch processing system regenerates each patch against the virgin doctor using git |
| 04:52.20 | moo | hrm.. how do you do this for veer? |
| 04:52.46 | rwhitby | well, at the start, the released veers were running 2.1.0, just like the pre 2. |
| 04:52.55 | rwhitby | then some of them got 2.1.2 |
| 04:53.10 | rwhitby | unfortunately, a separate version was not created in the patch system |
| 04:53.22 | rwhitby | in hindsight, it should have been |
| 04:57.50 | jcsullins | could someone direct me to were the source for "Remove Android" is located? |
| 04:58.20 | rwhitby | http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/tree/linux/remove-android/postinst |
| 04:59.26 | jcsullins | thx. I'd like to request that it explicitly state that it removes moboot as well please ... |
| 05:00.12 | jcsullins | (and I suppose any other non-webOS boot images) |
| 05:02.17 | rwhitby | jcsullins: "Install this package to remove all files related to Android and moboot (and any other non-webOS boot images) from the /boot partition." ? |
| 05:02.35 | jcsullins | cool |
| 05:02.42 | jcsullins | thx |
| 05:03.01 | rwhitby | done |
| 05:03.20 | rwhitby | http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/tree/linux/remove-android/Makefile |
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| 05:23.04 | veku | anyone having problem playing videos on youtube?! |
| 05:23.15 | veku | or is it just me! |
| 05:24.33 | veku | or the browser.. |
| 05:24.46 | veku | or the ghost in the tablet.. |
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| 06:03.22 | moo | rwhitby: patch for veer is submited. with updated description btw. can u please update the description for original pinyin* patches to be same as the -veer version? |
| 06:03.36 | moo | or should i just post an update for them |
| 06:04.49 | rwhitby | post an update |
| 06:06.05 | veku | moo: I had a quick question about the flash plugin. |
| 06:07.33 | veku | moo: my touchpad browser is syaing I need to upgrade my flash player. any idea why? |
| 06:10.38 | wrea | rwhitby, Once my packages are ready what is the procedure of getting them in the feeds? |
| 06:34.07 | moo | i don't use flash |
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| 20:09.39 | cryptk | nico_32_vserver, for your question, if you look at the actual source, you will see that the --insecure flag is only used if the source of the packages feed is NOT https |
| 20:10.08 | cryptk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:15.17 | cryptk | nico_32_vserver, does that qualm your worries? that we are only using --insecure when pulling feeds that are already insecure? |
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| 20:27.16 | wrea | sconix, seem to have gotten everything in order, still cant test to make sure the modules still load because on my problems with pulse |
| 20:29.49 | nico_32_vserver | cryptk: not really, now i want to add gpg signature to every package |
| 20:29.54 | nico_32_vserver | debian-like |
| 20:30.18 | cryptk | patches welcome |
| 20:30.27 | cryptk | as long as it isn't required for all packages |
| 20:30.39 | cryptk | and assuming that ipk's support it |
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| 20:30.59 | cryptk | I think they do |
| 20:33.43 | nico_32_vserver | look like it was done in 2009 |
| 20:33.45 | nico_32_vserver | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Packaging_Homebrew_Apps_for_Stock_Pre_without_Rooting# |
| 20:34.01 | nico_32_vserver | legacy doc is always fun to reread |
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| 20:34.57 | cryptk | yep |
| 20:50.28 | Veku | guys, is there anyway to fix flash plugin problem on the touchpad without webdoctoring it? |
| 20:55.11 | panel | hello |
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| 21:06.20 | dwc- | what is "flash plugin problem" |
| 21:06.53 | Veku | can't play or see anything flash related on the web. |
| 21:07.36 | Veku | intalled the openvpn patch yesterday, and since the flash plugin stopped working |
| 21:08.15 | dwc- | have you tried removing the patch? |
| 21:08.20 | Veku | everytime I go on youtube, it says I need to upgrade the flash player to view. |
| 21:09.00 | Veku | yes, I removed the patch and 3 other patches that was installed with that. |
| 21:09.13 | Veku | still the same. |
| 21:10.25 | dwc- | what happens if you go to http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html |
| 21:10.26 | Veku | now, I think the only way is to re-install the OS, if there's no other way to fix it. |
| 21:10.43 | Veku | lemme see.. |
| 21:10.46 | dwc- | (google search keywords "flash plugin version") |
| 21:11.53 | Veku | ok |
| 21:12.33 | Veku | it says, I have version 10.3.181.34 insrtalled. |
| 21:13.48 | dwc- | then it sounds like it's working |
| 21:13.59 | dwc- | that's a flash movie that reports that |
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| 21:15.23 | Veku | no really. I just went on youtube, it says the same thing. plus this other website it says after I install flash player the video will reload. |
| 21:15.38 | Veku | I think it's the web browser. |
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| 21:16.20 | Veku | is there anyway just to uninstall and reinstall the browser? |
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| 21:17.23 | Veku | someting got messed up in the web browser when those patches were installed.. |
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| 21:23.44 | Veku | so if I reinstall the WebOS, will the save/restore keep all the saved bookmarks on the browers? |
| 21:28.10 | cryptk | Veku, I think it does... look in the save/restore app and see if there is a toggle there for the browser |
| 21:28.17 | cryptk | and make sure you actually run a backup |
| 21:28.36 | cryptk | and then copy the backup off the device just to be safe before you doctor it |
| 21:30.04 | Veku | first time I did reinstalled the OS, the backup system didn't restore the bookmarks and favs. |
| 21:30.21 | cryptk | did you tell it to do a restore? |
| 21:30.27 | Veku | yes |
| 21:30.28 | cryptk | and I'm not certain if it does bookmarks or not |
| 21:31.12 | Veku | yeah..me too. is there a way to transfer them somehow to my pc via usa or something? |
| 21:31.23 | Veku | *usb |
| 21:31.53 | rwhitby | Use Save/Restore, as recommended |
| 21:32.27 | Veku | ok |
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| 21:50.17 | RichT23 | hoot |
| 21:53.04 | dwc- | I thought bookmarks are part of the palm profile |
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| 23:15.00 | astruasdh | please, my veer has a very sensitive proximity sensor. So, when I am in a call, my ear does lots of clicks, and I remove contacts, link contacts, etc. Is there a work-around for this? |
| 23:18.35 | ka6sox | my pre3 is same way. |
| 23:18.45 | ka6sox | dunno the answer. |
| 23:18.46 | ka6sox | T |
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| 23:22.52 | astruasdh | I am thinking in write a patch to shut down the screen while in a call. To turn on, only by clicking the power button on when the call end. what do u think? |
| 23:27.19 | Fuddus | dwc- Done reinstalling. This time it did restore the bookmarks. But now there's no Hp app catalog! what do I do?! |
| 23:29.59 | dwc- | what do you mean, no catalog |
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| 23:33.44 | Fuddus | well, actually I'm also missing the Bing Maps. Both of them has a big dot as an icon and exclaimation icon on top of them. |
| 23:34.12 | Fuddus | I restarted the tp few times, still the same. |
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| 23:34.39 | dwc- | how far off is your clock |
| 23:35.20 | Fuddus | 1 hour off |
| 23:35.28 | dwc- | fix it and see if that helps |
| 23:35.33 | Fuddus | ok |
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| 23:43.48 | Fuddus | Now both of their icons have changed to exclaimation icon. |
| 23:44.13 | dwc- | now try to update them |
| 23:46.07 | Fuddus | when I click to update, the pre version of the Hp app catalog opens up, but blank. |
| 23:47.48 | dwc- | pre version? |
| 23:49.12 | Fuddus | you know, it's not full screen app for Touchpads. it's like the phone in the middle. |
| 23:50.45 | Fuddus | it oonly says Hp app catalog, and nothing else. |
| 23:51.04 | dwc- | that's weird. I've never seen that |
| 23:51.18 | Fuddus | me either. |
| 23:51.33 | dwc- | I thought even 3.0.2 shipped with the enyo-based catalog app |
| 23:52.00 | Tibfib | it does |
| 23:54.11 | Fuddus | So, then I reinstall the OS again? |