| 00:07.42 | hewball | ka6sox: hai |
| 00:08.16 | ka6sox | hi hi...what are you using to do GPS logging? are you using a webOS device? |
| 00:09.07 | hewball | map tool pro, can log tracks with a bluetooth gps |
| 00:09.46 | hewball | but i use an arduino to SD mostly |
| 00:13.04 | ka6sox | ah, okay...I go to places that are often not on published Maps... |
| 00:13.18 | ka6sox | places where if you get "stuck" they don't send the AA out to rescue you. |
| 00:13.40 | hewball | if you even have phone signal... |
| 00:13.47 | ka6sox | right |
| 00:14.21 | ka6sox | but if I don't come back...then a GPS track with appropriate info could be loaded into lets say...a Garmin, and they can trace that route. |
| 00:14.45 | hewball | aprs then? |
| 00:15.20 | wrea | aprs ftw |
| 00:15.32 | wrea | The main reason I want to get a ham license |
| 00:15.39 | hewball | wrea: so do i |
| 00:15.40 | ka6sox | I do have that too... a little KPC2 and a 2Meter rig. |
| 00:16.07 | ka6sox | 10W TX for the APRS. |
| 00:16.23 | ka6sox | hewball, thats a good idea too... |
| 00:16.45 | wrea | I actually was planning on doing a weather balloon loaded with an arduino. |
| 00:16.45 | hewball | if you dont want logging as such but to share where you are incase, thats the best |
| 00:16.48 | ka6sox | I had a previous car stolen...APRS tracked it and the Thieves got caught. |
| 00:17.01 | wrea | Just cant justify the balloon and helium for it atm |
| 00:17.05 | wrea | ka6sox, awesome |
| 00:17.18 | ka6sox | wrea, I have a pixi that I flew.... |
| 00:17.31 | ka6sox | going to fly it again soon. |
| 00:17.41 | wrea | :) |
| 00:18.02 | ka6sox | trying to stay relatively stationary @ about 60k feet... |
| 00:18.24 | ka6sox | for long durations (days) |
| 00:18.25 | wrea | I have a packet radio shield, just need the transmitter |
| 00:18.49 | ka6sox | the Arduino draws too much power for me. |
| 00:19.07 | ka6sox | I am working on getting the processor below 1ma Average. |
| 00:19.31 | hewball | ka6sox: im using an arduino mini pro, hand soldered to a adafruit gps logger shield, with a CSR bluetooth attached to the serial data line out of gps for use on touchpad |
| 00:19.47 | ka6sox | kewl. |
| 00:20.07 | hewball | 1600mah iphone3g battery attached to a li-ppo rider for power |
| 00:20.22 | ka6sox | thats enough |
| 00:20.54 | hewball | fits in a small otterbox, so i zip tie it to the roof rack |
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| 00:22.02 | ka6sox | ah... |
| 00:22.36 | ka6sox | the APRS gear was buried near the wheelwell... |
| 00:22.57 | ka6sox | antenna was coupled to the heater wires on the rear screen. |
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| 00:23.08 | hewball | thats neat |
| 00:28.17 | wrea | It's been awhile since i looked at my code |
| 00:29.31 | ka6sox | okay, I gotta run for a bit... |
| 00:29.32 | ka6sox | bbl |
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| 00:30.56 | wrea | If I did it correctly, I should have gotten it to predict where it could land based on various parameters |
| 00:33.20 | wrea | hewball, have you gotten pulse to build from source? |
| 00:33.33 | hewball | havnt tried |
| 00:35.16 | hewball | the udev module would be great though |
| 00:35.56 | wrea | Yeah |
| 00:36.36 | wrea | I have avahi compiled, so I was trying to get that module compiled |
| 00:37.13 | hewball | ahh |
| 00:37.54 | Soruk | rwhitby Is there anything else I need to do? |
| 00:37.54 | Soruk | Oops. |
| 00:37.59 | wrea | 'trying' |
| 00:38.37 | wrea | Last time I looks the udev libs werent on the tp, or at least not in /lib |
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| 01:06.37 | dwc- | rwhitby / nuttybunny_pre3 ... taht also assumes they read the documentation ... |
| 01:06.44 | dwc- | whether in-app or not ... |
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| 01:08.06 | Abyssul | rwhitby, your welcome for that link you tweeted :p |
| 01:11.25 | rwhitby | Abyssul: what's your twitter handle? |
| 01:13.22 | Abyssul | haha I dont use twitter :p |
| 01:13.35 | Abyssul | You are the only person I "manually" follow |
| 01:13.56 | Abyssul | I went searching for the governor parameter definitions and ran across that |
| 01:14.21 | rwhitby | how would you prefer attribution to be denoted? just "Abyssul" or something else? |
| 01:14.39 | Abyssul | Yeah Abyssul works |
| 01:15.55 | Abyssul | Found that floor and tickle means: "raise the frequency for controlled * periods of time" |
| 01:16.25 | Abyssul | Doesnt seem to work as described though |
| 01:17.34 | Abyssul | sweetness, recognition ^.^ |
| 01:18.05 | rwhitby | great find, BTW. |
| 01:18.32 | Abyssul | How does that help at all? Isnt it the source code we already have? |
| 01:19.15 | rwhitby | it's identical to what we have already, but shows an intent. |
| 01:20.07 | Abyssul | Yeah. The fact that they are still trying to "expand" (this was posted a week from now) as rumors go around that webOS is kicking the can shows some potential. |
| 01:20.58 | rwhitby | well, upstreaming could be seen as either expanding, or "tidying up your affairs" |
| 01:21.31 | Abyssul | Oh yeah... no bueno |
| 01:21.58 | jacques | I hope the October issue of Pivot comes out soon! |
| 01:22.15 | dwc- | don't worry, it was leaked in time for the promo codes that expired nov 1 to get used up :P |
| 01:22.52 | Abyssul | Yeah seriously Pivot... |
| 01:22.55 | jacques | yay! |
| 01:23.19 | jacques | it'kk come out while I'm at work tomorrow and codes will be depleted by the time I get home |
| 01:23.32 | dwc- | of course, I didn't have time to read all the pages before they got yanked |
| 01:23.36 | Abyssul | I rather get the HP newsletters with promo codes :p |
| 01:23.37 | dwc- | jacques: if you don |
| 01:23.43 | dwc- | 't have the touchpad with you when it comes out |
| 01:23.51 | dwc- | or in the next, oh, 15-30 min |
| 01:23.58 | dwc- | you're not going to get it anyways |
| 01:24.08 | jacques | yeah :-\ |
| 01:24.28 | dwc- | it was like not even 15 minutes from newsletter timestamp to smartoffice code being used up |
| 01:24.34 | jacques | damn |
| 01:24.35 | Abyssul | I got it |
| 01:24.40 | dwc- | and the post on the blog, I suspect a smaller number of available codes |
| 01:24.45 | dwc- | but that didn't even last 12 minutes |
| 01:25.00 | wrea | I was lucky that time |
| 01:25.05 | Abyssul | I always get the emails on time so I get first dibs and then post it to the forums |
| 01:25.23 | dwc- | I get the emails, but within 3-4 min it's on slickdeals |
| 01:25.27 | dwc- | and then they're just gone |
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| 01:25.54 | dwc- | I had my touchpad fri, but was in a meeting without it (not doing that anymore ;)) |
| 01:26.12 | jacques | we don't have wifi at work |
| 01:26.25 | jacques | and even if we dod, it would require a proxy |
| 01:26.30 | dwc- | tried to cash in the code 14 min after it was sent (12 after I received it) and it was gone |
| 01:26.33 | dwc- | freetether! |
| 01:30.24 | Abyssul | dwc-, what about it |
| 01:30.28 | jacques | did I mention I have no data service where I work either? |
| 01:30.34 | jacques | :-( |
| 01:30.52 | jacques | sprint dead zone + giant metal building |
| 01:32.45 | rwhitby | awesome place to work : |
| 01:32.56 | dwc- | could be worse |
| 01:33.03 | wrea | I know how it is to be in a metal building. I was in one when I worked at the refinery, every carrier except sprint didnt get reception |
| 01:33.05 | jacques | oh, and the A/C goes out quite a bit in the summer |
| 01:33.16 | dwc- | you could work inside the faraday cages at companies that do wireless stuff |
| 01:33.25 | Abyssul | Wtf peeps, you need better working conditions o.O |
| 01:34.00 | dwc- | doesn't work for one of those, but knows someone who does |
| 01:34.56 | oldtopman | has a friend where the normally abysmal service had the 3g go out. |
| 01:35.16 | oldtopman | Just the 3g mind you-calls still worked. |
| 01:45.43 | dwc- | oh look, I didn't attend to my touchpad enough and it updated itself to 3.0.4 |
| 01:46.09 | oldtopman | Join the club. |
| 01:46.12 | dwc- | dislikes autoupdates |
| 01:46.30 | oldtopman | See earlier. |
| 01:46.56 | dwc- | I'd been telling it "later" for a reason .... *grumbles* |
| 01:47.21 | oldtopman | Don't forget the emergency patch remover. |
| 01:49.52 | dwc- | I don't have any of the patches that need it, afaik |
| 01:50.24 | hewball | yeah so need a 2nd touchpad to test breaking things with |
| 01:50.59 | dwc- | this OTA might have been the reason my internet was annoyingly slow earlier, come to think of it ... |
| 01:51.17 | hewball | as i say that 2 more touchpad touchstones arrived at my door :D |
| 02:05.50 | rwhitby | dwc-: should have just disabled the update |
| 02:06.20 | dwc- | I don't remember seeing something for that (?) |
| 02:07.41 | rwhitby | lines 761 and 762 of http://git.webos-internals.org/tools/meta-doctor/tree/Makefile |
| 02:08.23 | dwc- | enable beta feeds? |
| 02:08.50 | dwc- | ... or are you telling me there's an app to disable it in the beta feeds |
| 02:08.53 | rwhitby | shift-refresh your browser |
| 02:09.00 | rwhitby | DISABLE_UPDATE_DAEMON |
| 02:09.34 | dwc- | ahh |
| 02:09.43 | dwc- | that's 773-774 in mine |
| 02:09.50 | rwhitby | shift-refresh your browser |
| 02:09.54 | dwc- | I did... |
| 02:10.54 | dwc- | blob: 2a6b4110b607c85e554596ae02d8773ea3d4de03 (plain) ? |
| 02:11.17 | dwc- | that's what wget gives me, even... serverside cache maybe? |
| 02:11.43 | rwhitby | yes, we do serverside caching, which shift-refresh kicks |
| 02:12.10 | dwc- | I don't think so... |
| 02:12.45 | dwc- | that just forces the browser to re-pull |
| 02:12.57 | dwc- | http://git.webos-internals.org/tools/meta-doctor/plain/Makefile appears to have the most recent version though |
| 02:13.18 | dwc- | so I suspect your git web thing has cached the html-ized version |
| 02:13.52 | rwhitby | well, I'm seeing it in my browser at those line numbers |
| 02:13.59 | dwc- | which blob version do you get? |
| 02:14.13 | dwc- | in the web version |
| 02:14.13 | rwhitby | so either the server is serving different things at the same URL to me and you, or the caching is happening somewhere between the server output and your eyes |
| 02:15.08 | dwc- | must be the former, as I've tried it from 3 different hosts on totally different connections |
| 02:15.28 | dwc- | which should eliminate any ISP caching |
| 02:15.35 | dwc- | and fetched from the command line with tools that don't cache |
| 02:16.11 | rwhitby | the server hates you then |
| 02:16.17 | dwc- | but, thanks for pointing me at the updatedaemon disable |
| 02:16.27 | hewball | rwhitby: thats a common problem with me :| |
| 02:16.54 | dwc- | I even tried passing ?cachebusting=randomnumbers and it still gives me 2a6b41 |
| 02:17.00 | dwc- | so it really hates me |
| 02:17.14 | rwhitby | blob: 2a6b4110b607c85e554596ae02d8773ea3d4de03 (plain) is correct |
| 02:17.49 | dwc- | that is really weird then |
| 02:18.19 | rwhitby | I should have just made you clone it |
| 02:18.23 | dwc- | I have a clone of it |
| 02:18.43 | rwhitby | you'll find it at line 761 in there too |
| 02:18.45 | dwc- | if you hadn't linked me to the gitweb, I probably would have just pull --rebase'd and opened it in vi |
| 02:19.04 | dwc- | and we'd have not had this fun discussion :P |
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| 05:17.17 | ka6sox | hewball, a question about usb audio... |
| 05:17.27 | hewball | sure |
| 05:17.52 | ka6sox | you had said the device enumerates as an HID device? |
| 05:17.58 | ka6sox | what is its 'name'? |
| 05:18.38 | hewball | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.38 | hewball | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.56 | ka6sox | okay, and it shows up as /dev/? |
| 05:19.14 | ka6sox | /dev/hid/something? |
| 05:19.16 | hewball | ill take a screenshot of dmesg for ya |
| 05:19.20 | ka6sox | ty |
| 05:20.14 | ka6sox | also, I have a Qstarz GPS that I need to rename so maptool and other things that expect GPS to be in the name so the API works. what did you do about that? |
| 05:20.49 | ka6sox | I was just going to create a link to the real device name that contained GPS in it. |
| 05:21.00 | hewball | i had my bluetooth named as GPS so i didnt have a problem |
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| 05:23.19 | ka6sox | ah, okay. |
| 05:23.29 | ka6sox | well..the TP doesn't have one so there is no conflict. |
| 05:25.55 | ka6sox | now I just need a way to make the picture that I take with the Veer add an entry into the gpx file for date/time/location so I can easily tag the pics as I go along. |
| 05:26.50 | hewball | i have one of theses on my arduino http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bluetooth-UART-RS232-serial-Converter-Module-TTL-/190527209620 so i named it what i wanted |
| 05:28.28 | ka6sox | ah, okay |
| 05:28.30 | hewball | ka6sox: http://hewball.com.au/img/xserver_2011-31-10_132239.png dmesg output for 2 different usb audio devices plugged into a hub on the touchpad |
| 05:30.48 | ka6sox | interesting, found 3 inputs but doesn't talk about any outputs at all. |
| 05:31.50 | hewball | yeah both have a mic and headphones too |
| 05:32.33 | ka6sox | I should see what my Belkin units enumerate as. |
| 05:32.52 | ka6sox | iMics |
| 05:33.03 | hewball | if you want my custom uberkernel with usb audio support let me know |
| 05:33.31 | ka6sox | I just need the patch for what you changed please. |
| 05:34.06 | ka6sox | then I can test and, with your permission, push it upstream to eventually get it into UK... |
| 05:35.13 | hewball | yeah ill grab a diff now for ya |
| 05:36.51 | ka6sox | ty |
| 05:36.53 | dwc- | =m ! |
| 05:37.09 | ka6sox | dwc-, why? |
| 05:37.29 | ka6sox | you are worried about kernel size right? :P |
| 05:39.43 | ka6sox | back when I had tiny Flash drives and things were tough (like the Slug) made sense. |
| 05:40.12 | dwc- | mostly, yes |
| 05:40.32 | dwc- | for many things it's also easier to swap out |
| 05:41.07 | dwc- | I dunno, I mostly stopped building my own kernels |
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| 05:41.39 | dwc- | the kernel supports so much stuff these days, the time investment to trim it down and remove all the crap for hardware I don't own |
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| 05:41.56 | hewball | ill leave that up to who ever to work out, me first time ive ever had to compile one |
| 05:41.57 | dwc- | doesn't really save me enough on compilation time |
| 05:42.58 | dwc- | but, given TMC on our devices, yes, in this case it seems like more of a concern to me |
| 05:45.52 | hewball | seems to me there is alot of crap already built in too |
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| 05:46.19 | hewball | as i watch FM drivers fly past |
| 05:47.11 | hewball | and sierra and huawei usb serial drivers |
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| 06:02.02 | acfrazier | anyone know if source for uberkernel is available? |
| 06:02.20 | dwc- | it is |
| 06:02.27 | acfrazier | where can I find it? |
| 06:02.33 | acfrazier | I've looked everywhere. |
| 06:02.50 | dwc- | under /preware/build on the git repo |
| 06:03.28 | dwc- | there should be a kernels group with UK in it |
| 06:03.40 | dwc- | and the makefile should point you at the source repo and patch sets |
| 06:03.48 | acfrazier | k sweet, thanks |
| 06:05.53 | dwc- | np |
| 06:07.42 | acfrazier | one more q, can I build on my x86 machine targeted for the TP? if so, is there some sort of toolchain to do so? |
| 06:08.21 | hewball | acfrazier: wiki had all that info for me, worked great following the instructions |
| 06:08.27 | acfrazier | ah nice |
| 06:12.14 | dwc- | lesse if I can remember the trigger |
| 06:12.18 | dwc- | ~kernels |
| 06:12.18 | infobot | hmm... kernels is see kernel |
| 06:12.23 | dwc- | ~kernel |
| 06:12.34 | dwc- | wrong tree |
| 06:12.41 | dwc- | there's a wiki page, something like "building apps and kernels" |
| 06:13.02 | dwc- | you should have a cross-compiler if you installed the Palm SDK |
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| 06:13.17 | dwc- | that will build the ARM binaries for the devices |
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| 09:00.25 | mobilekenny | Hello guys~~ |
| 09:00.38 | mobilekenny | I am a newbie of webos |
| 09:01.05 | mobilekenny | anyone can introduce the internal of enyo framework? |
| 09:03.48 | rwhitby | which parts of developer.palm.com have you read so far? |
| 09:04.53 | mobilekenny | actually I am not interested in the sdk development of webos, I am wondering if we have any approach to analyze the source code of webos framework |
| 09:05.18 | mobilekenny | which are not released in hp webos's opensource site |
| 09:06.14 | rwhitby | enyo is javascript, the complete source code is in the SDK. |
| 09:06.19 | rwhitby | it is not, however, open source. |
| 09:07.59 | mobilekenny | How about activity manager? |
| 09:08.19 | rwhitby | it's not part of enyo |
| 09:08.35 | rwhitby | it's a webOS service |
| 09:08.48 | rwhitby | what is your goal? |
| 09:10.05 | mobilekenny | I am trying to analyze the webos framework, and try to make similar demo system... |
| 09:10.24 | rwhitby | for what purpose? |
| 09:10.27 | mobilekenny | which take advantage of html/css/js as programming language in this system |
| 09:10.58 | mobilekenny | so, I am interested in the window manager, application manager, UI f/w in webos |
| 09:11.21 | rwhitby | for what purpose? |
| 09:11.42 | mobilekenny | it's my project in college |
| 09:12.09 | rwhitby | all those things you listed are proprietary closed source binary applications |
| 09:12.45 | mobilekenny | thanks you for your reply, is there anybody here got the chance to know these internals? |
| 09:13.14 | mobilekenny | oh, where I can find some reference docs about these? |
| 09:13.26 | mobilekenny | Thanks a lot~~ |
| 09:16.56 | rwhitby | developer.palm.com has the SDK documentation of these services. |
| 09:17.04 | rwhitby | there is no other documentation about the internals |
| 09:18.02 | rwhitby | mobilekenny: email pdc@palm.com with your request, and they might be able to help you for you college project |
| 09:19.27 | mobilekenny | thank you very much, I have analyzed the phonegap, it's quite simple and clear to make webapp in this framework, however, it's just a middleware which only support standalone app |
| 09:20.03 | mobilekenny | I want to know how webos makes lifecycle for multi-apps |
| 09:20.16 | mobilekenny | and manage multi-app |
| 09:21.12 | mobilekenny | anyone here have any clue about this? |
| 09:21.14 | mobilekenny | ：） |
| 09:23.16 | rwhitby | yes, all of those things are explained on developer.palm.com |
| 09:23.51 | rwhitby | as I said previously. perhaps you should study that resource first ... |
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| 09:25.26 | mobilekenny | ok, thanks, I am going to read more in developer.palm.com |
| 09:28.14 | mobilekenny | https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/js-services/activity-manager.html |
| 09:28.21 | mobilekenny | I found this page, quite helpful |
| 09:28.27 | mobilekenny | :-) |
| 09:30.03 | hewball | anyone know of a dismantled touchpad touchstone in pics? |
| 09:30.12 | mobilekenny | rwhitby: thanks |
| 09:30.27 | hewball | wonder if i have to do this blind :| |
| 09:30.45 | rwhitby | hewball: nope, haven't seen a teardown of a touchpad touchstone yet. I did one of the phone touchstone. |
| 09:31.06 | hewball | rwhitby: ive seen that ame in very handy :D thanks |
| 09:31.42 | hewball | guess ill be getting out my camera for this too |
| 09:32.18 | rwhitby | sweet, I'll be interested |
| 09:33.19 | hewball | car mount i want to make just wont fit a full touchstone in my design |
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| 11:53.20 | LunohoD | I've implemented a simple pdf viewer and associated it with .pdf files, but when I try to open a pdf file from internalz, the luna is restarted. It's a pdk application. |
| 11:54.19 | LunohoD | I can run it manually from the command line though. |
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| 13:48.46 | ka6sox | LunohoD, best way to get help on issues like this is to: |
| 13:49.09 | ka6sox | 1) point us to the code respository so we can look too |
| 13:49.33 | ka6sox | 2) give us an example file to look @ so we can share in the Joy of the Luna Restart |
| 13:49.48 | ka6sox | 3) send Logfile Pastebin locations. |
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| 14:01.56 | LunohoD | ka6sox: I'm not sure how, but the issue is solved now ;) |
| 14:02.55 | ka6sox | excellent |
| 14:03.20 | ka6sox | hopefully that doesn't mean it will rear its ugly head and bite you later :D |
| 14:04.46 | ka6sox | bbl |
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| 14:43.14 | Darkmagister_TP | hi all |
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| 18:03.58 | brockp | Just got my new touchpad, and I am wondering about hacking with pulseaudio a little. Do you know has anyone ever routed pulseaudio over TCP to another pulseaudio machine to play the audio? |
| 18:04.47 | brockp | searching touchpad+pulseaudio just gives me the no audio bug, sorry if I am overlooking another post |
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| 18:06.27 | brockp | Bah: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Tutorials_Linux_Pulseaudio_redirect |
| 18:12.10 | wrea | So, I compiled avahi and I have everything put in /usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.avahi. I'm going to want the daemon to start for it, how do i get it accomplished? |
| 18:13.00 | wrea | I got the upstart script for it. I've seen other things copy things into /var/usr in the postinst, is that what I have to do? |
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| 19:20.03 | singmajesty | Does anyone know (off hand) what the lib name is for OpenGL ES 2.0? |
| 19:20.16 | singmajesty | is it -lGLESv2_CM? |
| 19:21.13 | singmajesty | Oh, it's GLESv2 |
| 19:21.19 | singmajesty | Sorry for the interruption :) |
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| 21:33.10 | Compvir | Hello, all. Want to ask a question. |
| 21:33.30 | Compvir | I've created a patch for enabling 3rd-party photo synergy for Touchpad. |
| 21:33.46 | Compvir | Though 3.0.2 and 3.0.4 original files are pretty different, diffs are the same, as they affects only first unchanged part. |
| 21:35.04 | Compvir | The question is should I submit 2 different patches, or should I go with two same diff files with different meta-data and in different patches. |
| 21:36.42 | Compvir | sorry, first option should say in one patch for both versions. |
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| 22:10.00 | ajay | hey wondering about those impersonate-as-att scripts.. |
| 22:10.31 | ajay | I actually want to use an ATT Veer, but impersonate as att because i don't have them.. easily done I assume? |
| 22:12.27 | ajay | s/dont have them/don't have a ATT SIM/ |
| 22:13.25 | dtzWill | ajay: i'm unfamiliar with the "impersonate" bit--what are you trying to do? |
| 22:13.35 | dtzWill | sounds like either unlocking you veer would get you what you wanted |
| 22:13.44 | wrea | Yeah |
| 22:13.44 | dtzWill | or using metadoctor to use the device without any sim at all |
| 22:14.05 | wrea | That's what I'm doing with mine |
| 22:14.07 | ajay | dtzWill: that would cause it to lose the ATT Appcatalog |
| 22:14.18 | ajay | (and add wrea to that last line :) |
| 22:14.37 | singmajesty | (has anyone here used OpenGL on webOS?) |
| 22:15.10 | dtzWill | singmajesty: yep |
| 22:15.21 | dtzWill | ajay: the att app catalog?? |
| 22:15.50 | wrea | Is there anything that is att only on the veer? |
| 22:15.52 | dtzWill | well anyway my gf has an unlocked veer on tmobile and afaik her app catalog works swimmingly. not sure what you're saying, sorry. |
| 22:16.02 | dtzWill | there might be? some navigation app or the like |
| 22:16.16 | singmajesty | I have a book on OpenGL ES. I was trying to test the first sample on the device, but I'm not seeing anything on screen |
| 22:16.18 | singmajesty | No errors, though |
| 22:16.34 | singmajesty | I'm trying to use SDL to initialize the context instead of EGL, and wondering if I missed anything |
| 22:16.37 | wrea | The navigation app is on it stock, no download needed |
| 22:17.07 | singmajesty | The shaders seemed to compile correctly, though, and my render loop is running properly. The main loop is the same as an SDL application I had working before |
| 22:17.13 | wrea | Someone want to check my postinst: http://pastebin.com/WWUhWduX |
| 22:17.21 | dtzWill | singmajesty: if you have the code i can take a look |
| 22:17.29 | dtzWill | else make sure you're calling SDL_GL_SwapBuffers |
| 22:17.41 | ajay | sings that song famous at college parties.. "skype skype skype, skype.. everybody!" |
| 22:17.54 | dtzWill | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenGL_Triangle_of_Doom that code should work, ignoring the build setup for whatever you have |
| 22:18.56 | singmajesty | https://gist.github.com/1329213 |
| 22:19.00 | ajay | wrea/dtz: you haven't seen dwc- complaining about how he's missing skype? The wifi app catalog is missing apps that the WR/ATT/Vz/etc catalogs have. Activating a pre3/veer with a non-att sim, or over wifi.. not recommended. There are some horror tales too (not having any apps, not having any paid apps, etc.) |
| 22:19.09 | singmajesty | Do you call SDL_GL_SwapBuffers and then SDL_Flip? |
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| 22:19.13 | singmajesty | Or instead of SDL_Flip? |
| 22:19.50 | dtzWill | no sdl_flip at all |
| 22:20.01 | dtzWill | http://sdl.beuc.net/sdl.wiki/SDL_Flip |
| 22:20.06 | dtzWill | Note : If you want to swap the buffers of an initialized OpenGL context, use the function SDL_GL_SwapBuffers instead. |
| 22:20.18 | dtzWill | (although i wasn't sure, which is why i went to the documentation at all hehe) |
| 22:21.17 | singmajesty | Do you need to call any GL specific calls, between SDL_Init and SDL_SetVideoMode? |
| 22:21.41 | dtzWill | singmajesty: you used to have to explicitly tell SDL to use the particular GLES version |
| 22:21.47 | dtzWill | and i still do, b/c i don't wanna track what the default is |
| 22:22.09 | dtzWill | but that might've only been necessary to run GLESv1 stuff, don't remember which way the default went |
| 22:22.18 | singmajesty | I think the default on webOS is GLES 2 |
| 22:22.24 | singmajesty | (which I'm using) |
| 22:22.52 | dtzWill | have you tried calling SDL_GL_SwapBuffers intead? i see it commented out there |
| 22:23.04 | dtzWill | just wanna make sure that doesn't fix it before looking any deeper at it :) |
| 22:23.16 | ajay | after reading the meta impersonate scripts, looks like they won't serve this purpose.. wonder if dwc- submitted the impostah patch for it then.. |
| 22:23.55 | singmajesty | I have... still a black screen :) |
| 22:24.02 | dtzWill | ajay: oh wow. well things seem fine here, i guess she doesn't use skype. strange. |
| 22:24.12 | wrea | The veer is a nice phone. But if someone gave me a pre3... :P |
| 22:24.28 | singmajesty | I really like the Veer |
| 22:24.42 | singmajesty | I prefer the size over the Pre 3, but my eyes have felt tired lately, so the Pre 3 helps |
| 22:25.08 | ajay | oh, you know what skype's not available on the veer come to think, so i was thinking of the pre3. |
| 22:25.45 | wrea | Yeah, I didnt think skype would be on the veer |
| 22:25.48 | dtzWill | singmajesty: you check glGetError? |
| 22:25.49 | ajay | Not sure what the veer is missing, but if i had the choice, i wouldn't find out :) |
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| 22:26.14 | ajay | wrea: i'm hoping they'll make skype available for all phones soon |
| 22:26.21 | dtzWill | i have a debug macro that checks glGetError (and logs accordingly) that i invoke after....every GL call i make >_> |
| 22:26.25 | dtzWill | tad overkill, but works wonders when something goes wrong |
| 22:26.54 | singmajesty | Hmm, that's a good idea |
| 22:26.59 | singmajesty | I like overkill :) |
| 22:27.36 | ajay | I'd like to use my pre2 as my new wifi-only device, but since skype is only avail on the pre3 i might have to use it instead.. (it really ought to be returned to the factory :( ) |
| 22:27.53 | singmajesty | 1281? |
| 22:28.04 | ajay | i wonder if i could get insurance on the pre3 and get someone to repair it.. (haha, who would even know how! oh wait, sigh..) |
| 22:29.04 | wrea | preware doesnt like my postinst script |
| 22:29.59 | dtzWill | singmajesty: print it in hex :) |
| 22:30.08 | dtzWill | and compare to GL.h |
| 22:30.10 | dtzWill | what i do anyway |
| 22:30.23 | dtzWill | singmajesty: that's GL_INVALID_VALUE |
| 22:30.43 | dtzWill | if you look at the call that caused that, they generally define pretty well what errors happen when |
| 22:30.54 | singmajesty | How do I know what caused it? |
| 22:31.04 | singmajesty | Call glGetError () after every call, like your macro? :) |
| 22:31.20 | dtzWill | >_> yep |
| 22:31.38 | dtzWill | there are probably more useful GL debuggers or something, but i've never used one |
| 22:32.21 | singmajesty | Thanks, this is helping |
| 22:32.31 | singmajesty | I also just tried changing the clear color, and yes, I'm getting a red screen |
| 22:32.40 | singmajesty | Which is promising |
| 22:32.47 | ajay | ok lunchtime? |
| 22:32.58 | dtzWill | singmajesty: that is promising! :) |
| 22:36.20 | singmajesty | glVertexAttribPointer (0, 0, GL_FLOAT, GL_FALSE, 0, vVertices); |
| 22:36.23 | singmajesty | That line gives me 1281 |
| 22:36.30 | singmajesty | Then this one: |
| 22:36.31 | singmajesty | glDrawArrays (GL_TRIANGLES, 0, 3); |
| 22:36.35 | singmajesty | Gives me 1282 |
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| 22:37.54 | dtzWill | 0, vvErtices seems wrong |
| 22:38.36 | dtzWill | ah, nvm that's a defined value |
| 22:39.10 | dtzWill | the first two parameters--i've been using for 'index' the result of glGetAttribLocation, maybe that's overly verbose |
| 22:39.16 | dtzWill | but |
| 22:39.22 | dtzWill | the 2nd parameter is 'size' |
| 22:39.52 | dtzWill | must be 1, 2, 3, or 4 it says? idk what it means "the initial value is 4"--maybe '0' works there too. |
| 22:40.52 | singmajesty | Ah, got it |
| 22:40.57 | singmajesty | Yeah, with 3 it works |
| 22:41.03 | singmajesty | Thanks :) |
| 22:42.40 | dtzWill | \o/ |
| 22:43.10 | singmajesty | So what do you think would be a good way to call glViewport with the device screen size, rather than explicit dimensions? |
| 22:43.19 | singmajesty | I know I use 0,0 when I initialize the video mode |
| 22:43.34 | singmajesty | Do I pull the screen info with SDL, then save and reuse that? |
| 22:45.36 | dtzWill | not sure. i've used GL plenty on webos devices, but not nearly enough in other contexts to have any .... experience-based opinions that i'd trust to give you a good answer |
| 22:46.21 | dtzWill | depends what you're doing? using hardcoded dimensions might be neater for things that can auto-scale, but what you said seems to make more sense for things that have a natural aspect ratio/size/etc |
| 22:46.58 | singmajesty | I guess I just have to use 0, 0, then hit SDL video info to get the width and height? |
| 22:47.15 | singmajesty | Oh, wait -- I bet there's a way to check the size of the SDL_Surface |
| 22:48.13 | singmajesty | Perfect! |
| 22:48.21 | singmajesty | I was already passing the surface into my render callback |
| 22:48.29 | singmajesty | screen -> w, screen -> h |
| 22:48.59 | singmajesty | I've never felt more proud about a triangle in my life ;) |
| 22:49.10 | dtzWill | hahaha :D |
| 22:49.18 | dtzWill | (congrats!) |
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| 22:53.57 | singmajesty | If I used NME instead, I think it would be like this... |
| 22:53.58 | singmajesty | https://gist.github.com/1329311 |
| 22:53.59 | singmajesty | ;) |
| 22:54.16 | singmajesty | I know that using OpenGL directly is going to help me make NME better |
| 23:00.57 | dtzWill | never used NME and such, although often i wish i'd invested some time |
| 23:01.40 | singmajesty | I was waiting for Adobe to bring Flash to webOS... waiting and waiting... |
| 23:01.44 | singmajesty | I was a Flash developer before |
| 23:01.54 | singmajesty | Chuq said to give up and go C++ or Canvas |
| 23:02.02 | singmajesty | I started researching, and stumbled on NME |
| 23:02.11 | singmajesty | So I got excited and ported it for webOS |
| 23:02.23 | singmajesty | (Though I never wrote the OpenGL stuff myself) |
| 23:02.29 | singmajesty | Now its polished a lot more |
| 23:02.52 | singmajesty | It has a device installer, so you can use "haxelib run nme test MyProject.nmml webos" and it will compile, package, install and launch on webOS |
| 23:03.02 | singmajesty | or "haxelib run nme test MyProject.nmml android" and it will do the same for Android |
| 23:03.06 | singmajesty | ...so on |
| 23:03.45 | singmajesty | I have an event I'll be speaking at, where I'd like to share how you can use C++ and OpenGL to create cross-platform games, then share how NME is an option for people who would prefer not to have to write C++ or to write OpenGL calls by hand |
| 23:04.22 | singmajesty | Your code gets compiled to C++, so you get the benefits of native code, and being able to integrate your own low-level calls |
| 23:04.32 | rwhitby | wrea: for loop syntax error - missing "done" |
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| 23:06.47 | wrea | thanks |
| 23:06.54 | dwc- | I'm not sure that'll work right anyways.... you'll end up with symlinks to "lib/libfoo.so" in /var/usr/lib |
| 23:07.02 | dwc- | which would resolve to /var/usr/lib/lib/libfoo.so |
| 23:07.43 | dwc- | but... that entire for loop looks replaceable by ln -s $appdir/usr/lib/* /var/usr/lib |
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| 23:11.44 | wrea | For some reason I didnt think you could do that. But you're right and it'll make that simple |
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| 23:16.40 | wrea | thanks dwc- |
| 23:20.31 | dwc- | though, one reason to use the for loop is if you want to store the names of files that you symlinked |
| 23:20.39 | dwc- | successfully, for use in a prerm |
| 23:21.40 | dtzWill | or just go through the files that should be a symlink and check if in fact they're symlinks to your directory, and remove all such files :) |
| 23:21.49 | dtzWill | but that's a bit more complicated |
| 23:22.06 | dtzWill | has nice property of doing the right thing regardless of any state |
| 23:22.34 | dwc- | right |
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