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01:43.03hiddenpremiseAnyone up for testing an early beta of a proxy app?
01:43.39wreaMaking progress, I take it? :)
01:44.09hiddenpremiseyeah, it works now. at least on my touchpad
01:44.13hiddenpremiseand some of my coworkers
01:44.52hiddenpremiseI'm not to release quality yet, so I haven't posted it to precentral or started trying to get published in preware, but I'd like to see if others have success
01:45.24wreaIf I were in an environment where I had to use proxies, I'd gladly test
01:47.30hiddenpremisewell my big question now is will it launch on the first try. I've had some reports that it doesn't
01:48.02hiddenpremiseif it will launch after an install from webosquickinstall, it works pretty well from my testing. maybe some ui quirks, but the service works reliably
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03:46.52ranohi everyone, may I ask a Moonie question?
03:47.06ranoheh I ment noobie
03:48.30dwc-sure
03:48.43dwc-if you're lucky, one of us other noobies might even know the answer ;)
03:49.07scoutcamper~asktoask
03:49.08infobotThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
03:50.50ranowicked! Thanks! K, in prepare I only see about 500 available files, I could only find one kernel/ am I doing something wrong?
03:51.49scoutcamperrano, what device model and webos version?
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03:52.20ranoto 32gb and 3.0.2
03:52.27ranoto I ment
03:52.49ranostill not used to type on the touchpad
03:52.53scoutcamperrunning 3.0.2?
03:52.57scoutcamperinteresting
03:53.14ranoyep
03:53.25dwc-that's what I got =[
03:53.27dwc-=p
03:53.49dwc-2 kernels... uber and recovery
03:54.02ranoI'm using uber
03:55.03ranothere are supposed to be others out there rite?
03:55.19dwc-not in the main feeds
03:56.35ranohmm so how does one get them? Have to add feeds?
03:57.09dwc-yep
03:57.46wreahttp://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
03:58.30ranouuuuuuuu heh, le sigh
03:58.52ranocool thanks a lot?
03:58.57rano!
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04:36.59actionfiguredwc-: hiya :)
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04:44.28dwc-hi
04:47.31actionfigurehow goes it
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05:11.53dwc-fine. you?
05:15.39actionfiguregood
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05:30.22lisurgechello :o
05:31.27lisurgecsomeone think they can give me a push with metadoctor?
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05:45.45PatrickClisurgec: what you need help with?
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07:03.41meddiHi, Looking for app to remove touchscreen ripple, can't find it anywhere
07:04.11meddiand app to remove screen lock
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07:26.16meddithanks, i have and still unable to locate either one
07:26.54lisurgecdid you just update to 3.0.4
07:32.00meddiyes i did
07:33.51lisurgeclooks like everything is being moved over still =\
07:34.43meddiok thanks for that help much appreciated
07:36.14lisurgechttp://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
07:36.23lisurgecyou could try doing that to update the feeds.
07:36.33lisurgecsee if they're in the testing repos
07:46.23lisurgecSPOILER ALERT: they aren't in the testing feeds.
07:46.51lisurgeci'll look into it tomorrow night when i have more time, it's probably a config file tweak somewhere.
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08:04.25ShibiGreetings, are the preware feeds down by any chance?
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08:48.01rydercan some1 help me pls, my preware is stuck at scan can't get into it at [reading saved pcked]
08:48.50rwhitbysomething in 3.0.4 has caused that.  uninstall and reinstall has worked for most people
08:51.01ryderand how yo do that? Sorry I'm new at this
08:51.56rwhitbyuninstall from inside Preware.  http://bit.ly/phd-ac to reinstall
08:56.08ryderthink you Let me try it  tanto  u                                                     y
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11:17.07technikfreak_Hallo j cant Run apt onxternm anymore
11:17.41technikfreak_whatbcould be the problem
11:28.50technikfreak_mh
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11:59.16rwhitbyapt has never worked in xterm.
11:59.46rwhitbyxterm is a command line to the linux underneath webOS, which does not contain apt.
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13:27.41kloxhey all, I'm having some trouble installing the webos sdk on fedora 15
13:27.55kloxi keep getting an error saying i need virtualbox 4.0, but i've got 4.1 installed
13:28.02kloxanyone familiar with that problem?
13:28.29owayes
13:28.34owathen you need vb 4.0 not 4.1
13:28.38kloxlol
13:28.44owaits an obvious flaw, yes
13:28.48owaanyhow why use fedora?
13:28.53owaand not debian/ubuntu ?
13:29.01kloxjust interested in working on something different
13:29.08kloxbeen using ubuntu for 2 years and wanted a change
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13:30.30klox1oops disconnected myself
13:30.47klox1yeah, just switched from ubuntu this week for really no reason at all :)
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15:38.18actionfigure:)
15:38.48actionfiguredoes anyone know of a great music program to sync with pre+?  im on linux
15:39.00actionfigurerhythmbox and amarok doesnt seem to work
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16:40.27ASticeIs there a way to have two different patch files for different webOS versions under the same patch name? I'm updating my patch for 3.0.4 and wanted to make a slight tweak that works better for 3.0.4 but doesn't work for 2.x and below.
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17:07.58ka6soxAStice, I'm pretty sure that works...we have versions of patches for 2.X devices and different ones for 3.X devices
17:10.15ASticeHow do I do it? Just submit an update and tag the update as being compatible with only certain webOS versions?
17:10.55ka6soxI think thats how its done.
17:11.12ka6soxand the patch portal only tries to apply it to the appropriate versions.
17:11.47ASticeThat's smart. If only the app catalog worked that way.
17:13.57ASticeWell, I already submitted the old patch again to update compatibility with 3.0.4, so I'll put together my new patches (need one for 1.x, 2.x and 3.x) and resubmit after it goes through. Thanks for the info
17:19.05ajay__ta
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17:28.11YeahRightcan i save the Saved Package List in preware to a file somehow?
17:33.01dwc-I think the save/restore app does
17:33.28dwc-but my device is over there --------> or I'd check for you
17:44.03jtrucksso I removed all the patches that didn't appear t be working post-update, and now I'm attempting to re-apply some of them... not sure if they will work unless the versions are updated to 3.0.4 though... can anyone calrify that?
17:44.21jtrucksrestarts preware
17:44.41jtruckshmm
17:44.43jtrucksI'll reboot first.
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18:02.43ka6soxjtrucks, some patches haven't been certified for 3.0.4 or haven't been updated for it yet
18:03.02ka6sox@webosinternals has tweeted about that :D
18:03.56jtrucksafter a restart I can see that.
18:04.00jtrucksI don't do the twitters
18:04.16jtrucksI just manually lowered all logging levels. perhaps that's enough.
18:04.26ka6soxsince I"m not a patchmeister I dont' know much about this thing....other than it is made of flashpaper held up with matches.
18:04.47fr0ggieI wish palmdroid would hurry up
18:05.02fr0ggiei quite like webOS
18:05.14jtrucksi love webos
18:05.20jtruckswhat is palmdroid doing?
18:05.22ka6soxfr0ggie, many of us here do not share that view...we like webOS.
18:05.57ka6soxand have invested hundreds of hours to making it the best we can.
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18:06.14fr0ggieka6sox: palmdroid runs android crap as a card
18:06.16jtrucksI want to see webos thrive. it's awesome.
18:06.22jtrucksoooh video is usable now!
18:06.30fr0ggieTherefore, its pretty interesting to me
18:06.40fr0ggieI dont want to replace webOS (see also cyanogenmod port)
18:07.13jtrucksahhh so it's an andrid app interpreter?
18:07.24fr0ggieYea, its android apps in a card, on top of the lovely webOS
18:07.28fr0ggieNot replacing webOS
18:07.30jtrucksneat.
18:07.43fr0ggieYea, it seems kinda dead, sadly except for getting dalvim to run
18:07.50fr0ggieI *hate* android, however, i want netflix :P
18:07.55ka6soxfr0ggie, now thats a KEWL idea :D
18:07.57jtrucksyeah
18:08.01jtrucksnetflix and huluy.
18:08.02jtrucksthat woud ro
18:08.03jtrucksck
18:08.06hiddenpremisethat sounds fantastic, is there a good reference for it other than the xda-developers forum?
18:08.30fr0ggiehiddenpremise: It seems dead, #palmdroid is highly inactive, but maybe you guys could help them (thus why i bring it up)
18:08.31ka6soxxda-developers is NOT good reference IMHO.
18:08.47fr0ggieI think its a much better approach than replacing webOS with a pile of shit like android
18:09.41hiddenpremiseyeah, there is a post on precentral saying the project has been cancelled though http://forums.precentral.net/other-tablets/293560-official-palmdroid-development-thread-android-app-emulator-webos.html
18:11.02ka6soxthe primary issue is that a kernel would have to be fashioned to take care of the needs of both Android and webOS...and that isn't easy
18:11.56jtrucksdamn. drop packet logging patch not updated.
18:12.05jtrucksif only I knew where to fix that on the os :P
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18:12.26jtruckscuz some video is still choppy :(
18:12.35ka6soxjtrucks, who is the author?
18:13.50jtrucksnot sure... I'll see if I can find it on the site since in preware it's not displaying (due to version issues I suspect)
18:14.15ka6soxlook @ teh 3.0.2 one and that is stil there.
18:15.37ka6soxyes, patch portal is version specific
18:17.39jtruckslisted as "webos internals"
18:18.30jtrucksis there a way to see the files in the patch?
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18:19.05jtrucksis digging around on the site
18:19.09john291Hi
18:19.57john291I am trying to bypass the activation on my Hp Veer, can anyone help me?
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19:48.44Guest56203somebody tell me whaat
19:49.07Guest56203TCP congestion is
19:49.14Guest56203please
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19:58.20dtzWilllol?
19:59.14dtzWillsorry just a)lmgfty and b)strange question to see here, heh
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21:28.00stbuehlercan someone tell me the device description for the rear camera on a pre3?
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