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00:00.45 | Xuzz | So I'm probably way behind on this, but that new maps app uses Enyo, right? |
00:00.54 | Xuzz | But it's in the Pixi too? |
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00:44.50 | rwhitby | Xuzz: yes, it includes an Enyo install |
00:44.59 | Xuzz | ooh, very cool |
00:45.18 | rwhitby | I expect it's Palm's way of getting Enyo out to developers without having to go through an OTA approval process |
00:45.22 | rwhitby | Very clever I think. |
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00:46.35 | Xuzz | Similar to Android's use of market forced upgrades for security fixes rather than using a real upgrade. |
00:47.56 | Frost | I like it, even though I can't type åöä in any enyo apps on my pre2. |
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02:26.51 | balrog | is preware down? |
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02:34.16 | nlween | greetings |
02:35.21 | nlween | anyone help me out with a question? |
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02:48.58 | joey | this shiz dead? |
02:49.14 | dtzWill | mmmmmmmmm enyo on my veer |
02:49.15 | Abyssul | ? |
02:49.20 | dtzWill | om nom nom so tasty. |
02:49.36 | Guest58829 | fap fap fap so fappy |
02:49.46 | halfhalo | dtzWill NO ENYO 4 U |
02:49.50 | dtzWill | shrug, the maps update sure seems rather enyo-esque, and it's nice. |
02:50.20 | Guest58829 | is everyone having issues with feeds? |
02:50.54 | balrog | umm, the maps update is enyo, isn't it |
02:51.23 | dtzWill | sure seems like it, just haven't verified it myself. works rather well in my brief testing |
02:51.46 | balrog | http://twitpic.com/6zhkw3 |
02:51.48 | balrog | it is |
02:52.17 | balrog | I cannot update preware feeds though |
02:52.19 | balrog | anyone know why? |
02:52.42 | Abyssul | haha, I royally screwed up the maps app for my Pre2. Wont even open |
02:53.11 | balrog | hah |
02:53.13 | dtzWill | balrog: seems up here, what's failing? |
02:53.18 | balrog | wget fails |
02:53.29 | balrog | unable to run command ... |
02:53.33 | kostka | guys, about the Maps apps |
02:53.45 | balrog | hmm hold on |
02:53.49 | kostka | can I change it back to GoogleMaps after update to new Bing Maps? |
02:53.54 | Abyssul | Nope |
02:54.11 | dtzWill | kostka: not yet, not as an option they give you AFAICT |
02:54.21 | balrog | dtzWill: bad address ipkg.preware.org |
02:54.28 | balrog | web works |
02:54.35 | dtzWill | i'd imagine you could rip the maps app out of a doctor and replace it or something. |
02:54.35 | kostka | dtzWill: thanks |
02:54.42 | dtzWill | but ymmv, etc |
02:55.11 | Abyssul | I might have to try that |
02:55.21 | Abyssul | Install google maps and reinstall bings |
02:57.05 | Abyssul | Deleting the maps app does not remove the Enyo framework |
02:57.25 | Abyssul | So you could essentially update enyo with the app and then remove it to install Google Maps |
02:57.40 | dtzWill | oh if you remove it it installs google maps again? |
02:57.47 | dtzWill | that's what kostka was asking. I don't know. |
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02:58.10 | Abyssul | No it doesnt |
02:58.12 | kostka | dtzWill: no, already remove BingMaps.. but GoogleMaps not come back.. yet :D |
02:58.20 | dtzWill | d'oh. |
02:58.24 | Abyssul | Im talking about if you manually install the google maps with a ipk |
02:58.34 | balrog | dtzWill: is precentral up? |
02:58.36 | Abyssul | It does not come back so you are left with nothing |
02:58.37 | dtzWill | nods |
02:58.38 | balrog | err preware |
02:58.49 | kostka | Abyssul: I'm trying to locate the GoogleMaps.ipk right now |
02:58.50 | dtzWill | balrog: precentral is up here, as are the feeds |
02:59.04 | dtzWill | http://ipkg.preware.org/ you can verify yourself locally, etc |
02:59.21 | balrog | dtzWill: I put that in the browser and "unable to resolve host" |
02:59.23 | dtzWill | doesn't sound preware related, sounds like some network issue on your device. |
02:59.30 | dtzWill | regardless of it being up, should definitely /resolve/ |
02:59.46 | balrog | using dig to query it returns no A record |
02:59.52 | balrog | even against 8.8.8.8 DNS server |
03:00.08 | dtzWill | that's not true here, using same server >_> |
03:00.52 | balrog | it works from elsewhere though |
03:00.54 | balrog | :/ |
03:01.00 | dtzWill | http://ompldr.org/vYXM3Mw etc |
03:01.08 | dtzWill | ah, hmm. |
03:01.16 | balrog | it's not on the touchpad that's for sure |
03:01.35 | balrog | I am behind AT&T's 3G NAT, so they may be screwing with dns responses :[ |
03:01.46 | dtzWill | sounds like a local networking issue, why you explicitly hitting the dns server for a query fails is bizarre though |
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03:02.03 | dtzWill | surely they wouldn't intercept traffic like that? :/ |
03:02.09 | balrog | who knows. |
03:02.13 | dtzWill | indeed :). |
03:02.22 | halfhalo | it IS att after all |
03:02.54 | balrog | btw, I'm hearing that the sprint iphone will have the GSM portion carrier locked. is this common for Sprint? |
03:03.10 | dtzWill | (idk, /me wanders off) |
03:03.31 | Abyssul | Rofl |
03:03.36 | Abyssul | Still have Google Maps in my Just Type |
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03:05.21 | ashi_ | hi |
03:05.36 | kostka | Abyssul, still can't find the GoogleMaps.ipk in doctor file.. could u please packed up the .ipk from existing installation? |
03:06.36 | Abyssul | Maybe |
03:06.50 | Abyssul | I just searched. The app is preinstalled with no ipk |
03:06.57 | Abyssul | like all the other stock apps |
03:07.39 | kostka | ah ic |
03:10.07 | Abyssul | It works |
03:10.25 | Abyssul | Package the com.palm.maps folder from usr/palm/applications |
03:10.49 | Abyssul | Use Jason's Ipk Packager and install with WOSQI |
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03:12.41 | Abyssul | I refuse to doctor just to get Bing Maps working... |
03:13.38 | ashi_ | hi from webos meetup in Sunnyvale. |
03:13.48 | Abyssul | Hehe |
03:14.24 | kostka | wow, thanks Abyssul .. will try that right now |
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03:16.34 | Abyssul | I dont know if its only working because I cant get Bing to work though |
03:19.43 | Abyssul | I dont have a maps.list in my ipkg folder |
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04:14.10 | kostka | Abyssul, haha.. fool me. how can I package the already removed GoogleMaps from my own device |
04:14.14 | kostka | need another device |
04:15.32 | Abyssul | No, you use 7zip to extract from the .jar |
04:15.55 | Abyssul | *webosdoctor.jar |
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04:17.55 | zambaboo | hi all |
04:19.12 | zambaboo | im on ubuntu lucid amd 64bit, using java 1.6, trying to install preware on my touchpad using the quickinstaller as such java -jar WebOSQuickInstall-4.2.3.jar |
04:19.51 | zambaboo | developer mode is enabled. this operation hangs for 10-15 minutes before i canceled it with a control-c. |
04:19.58 | zambaboo | any ideas as to why it might hang? |
04:21.55 | zambaboo | novacomd is running, i just verified that |
04:23.30 | ka6sox-away | I use the SDK and have no problems. we don't specific ally support quickinstall here but some have used it. |
04:23.43 | zambaboo | fair enough |
04:25.24 | zambaboo | omg console. |
04:25.57 | zambaboo | this is pretty awesome, folks. pardon the gushing, i just got the device(s) in the mail today and i cant get my hands off of it. |
04:26.41 | ka6sox-away | zamaboo, which device(s)? |
04:26.52 | zambaboo | ka6sox-away, touchpads |
04:26.58 | ka6sox-away | kk |
04:27.12 | ka6sox-away | what do you plan on doing with them? |
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04:27.48 | LarrySteeze | other than using them, of course ;-) |
04:28.02 | LarrySteeze | pokes ka6sox |
04:28.42 | zambaboo | using the living crap out of them? ive always wanted a reader. this thing, apparently, can run ubuntu. this means i can work on it. |
04:28.48 | zambaboo | meetings and such. |
04:28.59 | zambaboo | one is for me, the other is for the missus. |
04:29.27 | zambaboo | ah preware, why would you install correctly from the command line... |
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04:29.29 | LarrySteeze | are you new to webos? |
04:29.33 | zambaboo | that i am. |
04:29.38 | zambaboo | however im not new to linux |
04:29.38 | LarrySteeze | you'll like xecutah |
04:30.02 | zambaboo | i already like the brooklyn accent name |
04:30.10 | LarrySteeze | eh |
04:30.19 | LarrySteeze | I like to think of it as a boston accent :P |
04:30.49 | zambaboo | or that, yes. pahk the cah and what not. |
04:30.51 | LarrySteeze | impostah, govnah, all of 'em |
04:31.09 | patrickc | ok.. anyone with a pre3 just install the new maps app? |
04:31.24 | LarrySteeze | slaps patrickc around a bit with a large trout |
04:31.36 | patrickc | hey LarrySteeze |
04:31.40 | patrickc | how goes it? |
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04:32.25 | LarrySteeze | yo |
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04:35.13 | zambaboo | awk: /tmp/org.webosinternals.Packages: No such file or directory |
04:44.05 | kostka | patrickc, I did on my Pre2, delete it, and now decided to go back to GoogleMaps :D |
04:45.00 | zambaboo | oh god. an addon that works with calibre. |
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04:52.23 | zambaboo | ok im too lazy for this ubuntuchroot thing |
04:53.07 | ka6sox-away | zambaboo, if you are starting off and don't have anything important |
04:53.20 | ka6sox-away | just use meta doctor to partition it. |
04:53.47 | zambaboo | see thats the 'im lazy' part |
04:55.05 | ka6sox-away | :( |
04:55.19 | zambaboo | i know man |
04:55.45 | halfhalo | trust me, i'm way lazier than you are and i managed to do it. |
04:55.58 | ka6sox-away | zambaboo, I do mine about 1X/week |
04:56.06 | zambaboo | why so often? |
04:56.13 | ka6sox-away | (usually because something I'm testing has blown up. |
04:56.33 | zambaboo | (im lazy, plus the missus is watching something on netflix and that kills my bandwidth dead) |
04:57.20 | ka6sox-away | okay, wait till tommorrow, download the doctor and do it!~ |
04:58.06 | zambaboo | so.. can someone elaborate on the 'security constraints' bit and why i have to run xterm from within xecutah? |
04:58.41 | ka6sox-away | do you want random carp running on your TP from unknown sources? |
04:59.02 | ka6sox-away | (plus, xecutah starts the xserver then attaches to the app) |
04:59.11 | zambaboo | ok, makes sense. |
04:59.29 | LarrySteeze | zambaboo: there's an easy way to fix your bandwidth problem |
04:59.48 | ka6sox-away | working on XApps that will add functionality that is missing currently from the thousands of apps in x-windows. |
05:00.15 | zambaboo | LarrySteeze, what, smack the missus, problem solved? |
05:00.27 | LarrySteeze | zambaboo: are you running a separate dhcp server or is it the router dhcp you are using? |
05:00.48 | LarrySteeze | and what is she using to stream netflix? |
05:01.16 | zambaboo | using a router and its' dhcp. had i been less lazy, id configure qos on it. but im lazy. |
05:01.28 | zambaboo | she's using a roku box. |
05:01.31 | LarrySteeze | qos is easy |
05:01.55 | LarrySteeze | and the set-top boxes tend to use more bandwidth than necessary for netflix |
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05:02.48 | LarrySteeze | for example: pulling a 1080 stream for a movie that is only available in 720, while the box is also only capable of 720 output |
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05:03.07 | zambaboo | ugh seriously? |
05:03.16 | LarrySteeze | yes |
05:03.18 | ka6sox-away | yup |
05:03.40 | LarrySteeze | and most of the time, streaming 1080 is pointless anyways because it doesn't get rendered as such anyway |
05:04.18 | LarrySteeze | if your router doesn't have dd-wrt or openwrt on it already, get it flashed and qos it already |
05:04.28 | ka6sox-away | yes, but they can *claim* to stream 1080p |
05:04.51 | LarrySteeze | your wife won't lose any quality and you will have your internet back...both will be happy |
05:05.41 | LarrySteeze | ka6sox-away: yes, but pointlessly...it's pulling doubled pixels down...just accurately doubled? |
05:06.44 | ka6sox-away | mebbe most broadcasters gave up on the idea of 1080p and only are 720p on OTA stuff. |
05:06.49 | ka6sox-away | (except CBS) |
05:07.24 | halfhalo | directv only is piping movies and ppv in 1080p, everything else is 720p |
05:07.47 | ka6sox-away | halfhalo, and bitstealing like CRAZY. |
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05:11.11 | zambaboo | im sure im not the first one, but im really wondering why hp threw this project away like that |
05:11.58 | ka6sox-away | zambaboo, who can figure out what HP has been doing for the last 5 or so years.... |
05:12.01 | ka6sox-away | impossible. |
05:12.15 | patrickc | zambaboo: even HP doesnt know why they did it |
05:12.52 | LarrySteeze | I'm not even sure why HP bought webos in the first place. |
05:13.15 | LarrySteeze | I would have been much happier with htc, as I voiced in the beginning |
05:13.23 | patrickc | yeah |
05:13.34 | patrickc | or even just Palm keeping webos to themselves |
05:13.42 | patrickc | i would even settle for LG at this point... |
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05:16.50 | Denise_ | hi |
05:17.06 | grover_ | greetings all |
05:17.19 | grover_ | anyone assist me? |
05:17.26 | Denise_ | hey grover |
05:17.42 | grover_ | hello denise |
05:18.06 | grover_ | i have a hp touchpad and trying to use govnah to "overclock" to 1.5ghz |
05:18.23 | ka6sox-away | why? |
05:18.29 | grover_ | is this a place to discuss that? |
05:18.48 | patrickc | yes |
05:19.04 | patrickc | grover_: first, what wiki page are you followig for overclocking? |
05:19.28 | grover_ | http://www.webosbuzz.com/hp-touchpad/694-how-overclock-hp-touchpad-1-5ghz-1-9ghz-%5Bguide%5D.html |
05:19.56 | grover_ | i actually had it working, but after a reboot, the 1.5ghz option is now gone in govnah |
05:20.14 | grover_ | now my 720 videos are running choppy without the overclock |
05:20.39 | grover_ | i have uberkernel and preware installed and seem to be working ok |
05:21.23 | patrickc | hmm... not sure |
05:21.28 | patrickc | sorry |
05:21.45 | grover_ | its odd, it was there, and now options is simply not there its gone |
05:21.58 | grover_ | i dont think i did any other updates |
05:22.21 | LarrySteeze | grover_: I'm sorry for jumping in mid-conversation, but do me a favor and launch preware again |
05:22.28 | patrickc | i would read the webos inteernals wiki on how to overclock, they are a more reliable source then webosbuzz :) (as they are the maintainers) |
05:22.36 | grover_ | ok |
05:22.46 | grover_ | preware launched |
05:22.50 | LarrySteeze | let me know when the feeds are updated |
05:23.00 | grover_ | updated |
05:23.02 | LarrySteeze | ok |
05:23.08 | LarrySteeze | does it show any updates available? |
05:23.27 | grover_ | no package updates |
05:23.28 | LarrySteeze | ok |
05:23.38 | LarrySteeze | are you using any of the testing feeds? |
05:23.49 | LarrySteeze | (if you don't know what that means, your answer is no) |
05:23.53 | grover_ | no |
05:23.56 | LarrySteeze | ok |
05:24.04 | grover_ | should i perhaps? |
05:24.07 | LarrySteeze | you said it was the TP, right? |
05:24.13 | grover_ | yes |
05:24.26 | LarrySteeze | in the upper right corner, you see that magnifying glass? click on it. |
05:24.35 | LarrySteeze | search for uberkernel |
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05:24.47 | grover_ | ok |
05:25.02 | LarrySteeze | when it comes up, tap on it |
05:25.20 | LarrySteeze | what options does it provide you? |
05:25.25 | grover_ | only to remove |
05:25.53 | LarrySteeze | ok...without throwing the preware card away, open govhah again |
05:25.56 | LarrySteeze | *govnah |
05:26.15 | grover_ | ok |
05:27.34 | LarrySteeze | ok |
05:27.44 | LarrySteeze | where it says profile, what is it running? |
05:28.04 | grover_ | palm default |
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05:28.18 | LarrySteeze | and if you tap on it |
05:28.26 | LarrySteeze | what does it display? |
05:28.48 | grover_ | only shows a tab for advanced settings |
05:28.56 | LarrySteeze | id doesn't even list palm default? |
05:29.21 | LarrySteeze | that's very odd |
05:29.27 | LarrySteeze | should be an easy fix though |
05:29.35 | LarrySteeze | to me a favor and close govnah |
05:29.40 | grover_ | ok |
05:29.47 | LarrySteeze | hop back to preware and uninstall uberkernel |
05:30.02 | LarrySteeze | it'll ask you to reboot...accept the reboot |
05:30.31 | LarrySteeze | then go into preware again and install uberkernel again...and again accept the restart |
05:30.58 | grover_ | ok 1 minute |
05:31.01 | LarrySteeze | ok |
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05:32.16 | LarrySteeze | oh...for anyone who's interested, by the way, I was stuck at airport security (after I went through the line) for an extra 45 minutes today...I can give you a protip to not repeat what I went through |
05:34.05 | grover_ | im flying today in fact |
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05:35.14 | LarrySteeze | ok, well here's my tip then... |
05:35.34 | LarrySteeze | I feel I have to explain myself in advance...I was flying from wisconsin |
05:36.18 | LarrySteeze | my tip is: don't carry on 12 small packages of hard cheese as well as a roomba (in the same suitcase) |
05:36.21 | hewball | anyone else having ipkg.preware.org dns problems? |
05:36.30 | grover_ | haha duly noted |
05:36.45 | LarrySteeze | apparently it looks like C4 and some sort of timing device |
05:36.52 | LarrySteeze | in the scanner |
05:37.05 | LarrySteeze | you back up grover? |
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05:37.53 | grover_ | no my dl is very slow |
05:38.01 | LarrySteeze | o.o |
05:38.20 | Dan___ | Are the Prepare feeds being updated or something? Both my TP and FrankenPixi prepare are giving me errors. |
05:38.49 | hewball | Dan___: im having dns resolve issues for the feeds |
05:38.53 | jkim | hello everyone. I hope this is the right place to ask a question. I'm usually one to not have problems with prepare but when I tried opening it there was an error during the loading part and now I can't update things. |
05:39.16 | jkim | preware* |
05:39.46 | Greenie | I think the feed thing has something to do with the map update / enyo framework |
05:40.16 | hewball | dns issues it seems i cant resolve ipkg.preware.org |
05:40.28 | Greenie | Just set up a brand new veer WITHOUT the map update, and Preware worked fine on it. BUT on my veer WITH map update, I get the error, and Package Updates / Available Packages are grey'd out FWIW. I'm in Australia, not that it should matter Edit: I had them side by side as I was comparing patches. |
05:40.34 | Dan___ | http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/303314-preware-feeds-down.html |
05:40.45 | jkim | oh okay. So its not just me thats having this problem. Thank you! |
05:41.37 | Dan___ | definitely several people experiencing problems^^^ |
05:41.44 | hewball | the quickinstall showed cache for me for a bit then i cleared my dns cache and it all went |
05:43.41 | ka6sox-away | dns has been acting screwy in a number of venues today |
05:43.50 | LarrySteeze | let me try it real quick |
05:43.52 | Dan___ | I'm sitting on my balcony railings hoping that Preware will be back up or I'm jumping. |
05:44.18 | LarrySteeze | interestingly enough, I'm not having an issue |
05:44.35 | LarrySteeze | interesting because any time there's any small issue, I'm always one of the ones who has troubles |
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05:44.57 | wrea | Karma |
05:45.04 | grover_ | ok one more reboot larry |
05:45.22 | LarrySteeze | another reboot yet? O.o wow, your internet is SLOW? |
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05:48.39 | grover_ | ok back on profiles of govnah, all it has still is that advances settings :S |
05:49.21 | grover_ | do i need to do something in uberkernel first? |
05:50.48 | LarrySteeze | no |
05:51.22 | wrea | I'm supposed to get another callback from Palm. Maybe they'll call me this time |
05:51.25 | LarrySteeze | it makes no sense to me that ondemandtcl is not available to you |
05:51.38 | LarrySteeze | they won't offer you support for preware |
05:51.51 | LarrySteeze | oh sorry wrea, was expecting a response from grover_ |
05:51.58 | wrea | lol, np |
05:52.18 | LarrySteeze | grover_: there is nothing below the blue line aside from palm default? |
05:52.43 | LarrySteeze | I would I could vnc into your tp :P |
05:53.45 | grover_ | no im sorry i misunderstood you originally |
05:54.22 | grover_ | below that is CPU1 freqency etc |
05:54.33 | grover_ | i was thinking when you clicked on profile button |
05:56.00 | LarrySteeze | that is what I mean...when you first click on the profile line |
05:56.53 | grover_ | when i click on profile line, it says advanced settings, then there is a blue line then nothing under that |
06:00.34 | LarrySteeze | i hate to say it but it's over my pay grade |
06:00.49 | LarrySteeze | I'm usually pretty good at the "simple" stuff |
06:00.56 | grover_ | well thats ok, i appreciate the help |
06:01.03 | grover_ | ill keep looking |
06:01.38 | LarrySteeze | the only last thing I could recommend is uninstalling and reinstalling govnah, but I don't forsee it fixing anything |
06:01.48 | grover_ | its just so weird that the option for 1.5ghz was there and now its gone |
06:01.49 | LarrySteeze | or you could try using the testing feed and using a different kernel |
06:01.58 | grover_ | yeah tried that originally |
06:02.16 | grover_ | hmmm perhaps i will try a different one, any one you would reccomend? |
06:02.23 | LarrySteeze | are you new to the concept of kernels? |
06:02.31 | Dan___ | is ubersexual showing in your launcher |
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06:02.44 | grover_ | yes, i only followed the tutorial for this uberkernel |
06:02.45 | LarrySteeze | or rather do you know what a kernel is? |
06:03.25 | LarrySteeze | if you're new to kernels, and don't fully understand what they are, I don't recommend using the testing feed |
06:04.25 | grover_ | ok well i will do some reading here, thanks again for the help larry |
06:04.35 | LarrySteeze | I think you will find webos-internals.org to be your best resource, however |
06:06.31 | LarrySteeze | and I hate to be a party-pooper, but I'd recommend staying away from webosbuzz |
06:06.44 | LarrySteeze | d'oh |
06:07.14 | ka6sox-away | and XDA Developers posts that talk about webOS kernels. |
06:07.53 | LarrySteeze | I was more referring to webosbuzz's allowance of warez |
06:08.10 | LarrySteeze | or rather encouragement |
06:16.00 | LarrySteeze | I'mout |
06:16.02 | LarrySteeze | adios |
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07:22.17 | Ton | hey |
07:23.44 | Ton | my preware is acting up while updating feeds. ERROR messages came up n nothing was updated. Command failed with return value 1: wget -- passive--ftp etc. |
07:25.10 | Ton | can someone help? |
07:26.28 | rwhitby | it's an intermittent DNS issue it seems. keep trying, or wait 24 hours. |
07:27.14 | Ton | alright , will wait |
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07:56.49 | nburn | i've copied over some jpgs to my pre3 from usb mode but they're not showing up in the photo apps yet. is there anyway to force a rescan? what about the "emergency filecache wipe" ? |
07:59.14 | technikfreak | does anyone know when icq will aivalbel for the synergy apps? |
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08:35.08 | dwc- | nburn: if I had to guess, maybe the media indexer still dies on the pre3. restart and then go into and out of usb mode to try to force it to rescan |
08:35.56 | nburn | i figured it out |
08:36.10 | nburn | i had some randon .jpg file that the pre3 didn't like |
08:36.40 | nburn | i opened a few of the largest ones in photoshop and resaved them as web ready images and they're fixed now |
08:37.28 | nburn | so apparently the indexer stumbles on certain files some times |
08:37.53 | nburn | if i had to guess. I had an image named .jpg when it was really a .bmp or something .. |
08:38.25 | ashi_ | ah, weird |
08:38.50 | ashi_ | was nice meeting rwhitby tonight :) |
08:39.22 | nburn | jealous.. |
08:39.38 | nburn | what went down with all the franken stuff. I saw something mentioned on twitter ? |
08:40.13 | ashi_ | i think there was some franken going on. |
08:40.31 | ashi_ | i was sad i didn't get a touchpad in the raffle. |
08:44.06 | dwc- | there were like 6 frankpres made |
08:45.29 | dwc- | re: the feeds, it looks like one of the two authoritative NS for preware.org is out of sync |
08:45.55 | dwc- | both ns45 and ns46 have the same zone serial, but only one returns a hit for ipkg.preware.org |
08:46.14 | dwc- | that might not fix itself |
08:46.31 | dwc- | (or not for a week on its own) |
08:47.38 | ashi_ | i brought a T5, but it looked like Rod had it under control. |
08:50.47 | dwc- | rod wasn't even doing them... I think he was keyboard swapping a pre3, but brian was doing the swaps on the franken pre2s |
08:53.17 | ashi_ | ah |
08:56.37 | dwc- | ka6sox-away: pingg |
08:58.18 | ka6sox-away | wakes up @ 2am from a pingg and wonders whats up? |
08:58.29 | dwc- | whoops |
08:58.40 | dwc- | sorry, not that important |
08:58.56 | dwc- | was just wondering if you could force a reload or update to the preware.org dns |
08:59.04 | ka6sox-away | no |
08:59.20 | ka6sox-away | what are you waiting for? |
08:59.29 | ka6sox-away | a new updated app? |
08:59.32 | ka6sox-away | or ? |
08:59.34 | dwc- | ns45 and ns46 look desync'd |
08:59.45 | dwc- | even though they claim to serve the same zone serial |
09:00.01 | dwc- | but only on eof them returns ipkg.preware.org |
09:00.02 | ka6sox-away | ya, thats not in my DNS perview |
09:00.16 | dwc- | alright, go back to sleep :) |
09:00.18 | ka6sox-away | I don't have the preware domain |
09:00.31 | ka6sox-away | wosi?.yup |
09:00.35 | ka6sox-away | but not preware. |
09:00.56 | dwc- | rwhitby only then? |
09:01.02 | ka6sox-away | uh huh |
09:01.21 | dwc- | I don't need it... I can always use a working name/ip |
09:02.08 | ka6sox-away | ya, I would say add to hosts file?but thats dangerous. |
09:02.20 | ka6sox-away | especially since we have 3 mirrors we rotate thru. |
09:02.29 | dwc- | it's a fine temporary solution, but I'm not telling it to anyone |
09:02.57 | ka6sox-away | yes, thats not a good solution to publish anywhere as it could fail. |
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09:03.24 | dwc- | and the best part is it'll take awhile for anyone to realize why! |
09:03.48 | ka6sox-away | leading to 3am cries of "your dns is broken" |
09:04.27 | ka6sox-away | (which actually was the case 24hrs ago as our DNS fronting group "forgot to renew their domain"....whoops. |
09:04.31 | ka6sox-away | ) |
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09:05.07 | dwc- | well, maybe godaddy or whoever will somehow manage to fix their dns before rod wakes up |
09:05.58 | ka6sox-away | lets hope |
09:06.47 | ka6sox-away | okay, I have written marching orders for my Serfs for tommorrow, solved all the webOS problems for 1 night and need sleep. |
09:07.01 | dwc- | good night |
09:07.17 | dwc- | enjoy your unlocked 4g touchpad ;) |
09:07.26 | ka6sox-away | ???? |
09:08.10 | dwc- | (at least I think they said you were getting one tomorrow) |
09:08.37 | ka6sox-away | dances in the Aisles (if there was an Aisle here) |
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09:15.36 | elfurbe | I'm getting pretty persistent errors trying to check for updates in prepare. "bad address" repeatedly. Is that a known situation or is my touchpad broke? :D |
09:16.09 | ka6sox-away | elfurbe, yes, DNS servers out of sync |
09:17.00 | ka6sox-away | elfurbe I assume you mean Preware not Prepare (since it would appear as if auto-correct is sucking up Preware) |
09:17.38 | elfurbe | oy. Yes, Preware. |
09:17.49 | elfurbe | I'm glad you speak autocorrect |
09:18.15 | ka6sox-away | he he?.now if I could slap that errant dns server back into sync. |
09:18.55 | ashi_ | i typed my twitter account into a touchpad as it was passed around. It autocorrected "toddashi" to "foreskin." Glad I noticed and fixed it. |
09:19.14 | phoque_uni | hm |
09:19.23 | phoque_uni | what's the deal with wIRC's fstab problem |
09:19.28 | ka6sox-away | not good. |
09:19.30 | phoque_uni | I cant find a patch for the Veer |
09:19.40 | phoque_uni | and what would happen if I simply ignored that warning? :-D |
09:19.55 | ka6sox-away | phoque_uni what are you referring to? |
09:20.07 | elfurbe | What does wIRC have to do with fstab? |
09:20.25 | phoque_uni | when installing wIRC from preware there are big fat red letters warning me to install the fstab fixer patch |
09:20.48 | elfurbe | What's the issue with the DNS server? |
09:23.52 | ka6sox-away | phoque_uni : not noticed that? since you have asked here and the authors of wIRC are known to hang out here?wait patiently and you shall most likely get an answer (in due time) |
09:24.21 | ka6sox-away | elfurbe, several of the DNS servers @ the DNS serving group are missing the record. |
09:24.38 | ka6sox-away | ie: out of sync |
09:25.37 | ka6sox-away | anyway, 2:25am?and I am sleeping |
09:25.37 | ka6sox-away | nite |
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10:18.52 | zed_ | hi |
10:19.13 | zed_ | helloooooo |
10:19.42 | zed_ | Äü§ |
10:19.51 | zed_ | µ |
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10:53.21 | kamue719 | hi tehre |
10:53.22 | kamue719 | there |
10:53.43 | kamue719 | is someone here alive? |
10:54.09 | kamue719 | list |
10:55.38 | Douilspee | O. |
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13:14.51 | zottffssen | For some reason Preware won't load and feed information |
13:14.56 | zottffssen | and finds no packages |
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13:45.41 | Digital_Warrior | good morning all |
13:45.55 | Digital_Warrior | is ipkg.preware.org down |
13:46.37 | zottffssen | It seems to be shaky |
13:46.48 | zottffssen | I could connect for a few minutes then |
13:47.20 | Digital_Warrior | Well as long is it is not only me. |
13:48.11 | Digital_Warrior | dam needed novaterm |
13:50.27 | Digital_Warrior | would any one have a direct link to it. |
13:52.10 | zottffssen | I think you get it from the SDK |
13:54.29 | Digital_Warrior | thanks |
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14:48.34 | Digital_Warrior | thank you all. |
14:48.36 | Digital_Warrior | have a good day. |
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15:50.50 | RagingMind | so... there have been reports of the maps update making things wonky on devices with unofficial webos versions... has there been any consistency in what happens? |
15:52.08 | Lazar_Dobrescu | ended up fine for me.. I did have to first delete the enyo folder in /usr/palm/frameworks |
15:52.13 | Lazar_Dobrescu | not sure if it's there for everyone |
15:52.24 | Lazar_Dobrescu | (ATT pre+ 2.1) |
15:52.56 | RagingMind | I'm on Vzw pre+ with 2.1 |
15:53.56 | Lazar_Dobrescu | also I've seen nuttybunny say it worked for him on Telcel pre 2.1, ATT PRE+ 2.1, ATT Pixi 2.1, ATT Pre2 2.1 |
15:54.05 | rwhitby | is not going to update anything until I've written a script to move GMaps to a different appid |
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15:54.17 | Lazar_Dobrescu | I did get that too rwhitby :) |
15:54.24 | Lazar_Dobrescu | from some german forum :) |
15:55.32 | RagingMind | I have no enyo folder in my frameworks dir |
15:55.42 | Lazar_Dobrescu | should be good then :) |
15:55.50 | Lazar_Dobrescu | I mean, people have been reporting issues |
15:55.51 | Lazar_Dobrescu | so it's a risk |
15:56.12 | RagingMind | save/restore and backup of media drive to PC... done! now time to try the update I guess |
15:56.48 | RagingMind | the worst that happens is I have to redoctor my phone, which would probably be a good thing anyway |
15:57.02 | Lazar_Dobrescu | the dilemma of clutter free vs just works as it is :) |
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16:00.41 | RagingMind | I'm so glad to be getting rid of google maps. I'm actually kinda twitchy with excitement :) |
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16:03.59 | Lazar_Dobrescu | yeah well apparently those new bing maps are not all that great :) |
16:04.03 | Lazar_Dobrescu | I mean the app is great but the maps suck :) |
16:04.24 | rwhitby | Bing doesn't do transit in Australia for a start |
16:05.29 | RagingMind | my biggest problem with google is the inaccuracy of their address database in the US. it sucks. I normally use bing or yahoo on my computer |
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16:10.51 | TheMann00 | are there any current known issues with the feeds needed to install preware via WebOS QuickInstall? |
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16:16.34 | ashi_ | Google addresses in the US work well for me. But I do live 20 minutes away from the Googleplex in California. |
16:18.44 | RagingMind | when I lived in Minneapolis sometimes google would put me several miles away from the actual house/store I was looking for |
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16:25.48 | RagingMind | well... I had 0 issues updating maps |
16:25.54 | RagingMind | works wonderfully |
16:34.20 | RagingMind | one of the install scripts checks for the enyo directory, if it's found it skips some magic and update stuff |
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17:01.31 | dwc- | rwhitby-away: ping |
17:01.39 | dwc- | rwhitby: ping |
17:02.11 | ka6sox-away | TheMann00, yes, DNS is an issue |
17:02.42 | ka6sox-away | dwc-, rwhitby tried to kick the DNS servers by switching our feeds to another mirror. |
17:03.18 | dwc- | I'm still seeing ipkg2, and no cname on the other |
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17:03.43 | dwc- | ... I do see an updated zone serial though |
17:03.51 | ka6sox-away | ipkg.preware.org is not cnamed to ipkg2? |
17:04.01 | dwc- | wasn't that what it was last night? |
17:04.04 | ka6sox-away | no |
17:04.11 | ka6sox-away | it was ipkg3 last night |
17:04.51 | dwc- | ok, well, ns46 points at ipkg2, ns45 (which based on the soa should be the master) has NXDOMAIN |
17:04.56 | RagingMind | heh, the new maps app is less than 1MB and Enyo is about 2MB |
17:05.07 | RagingMind | (gzipped) |
17:05.54 | ka6sox-away | so ns45 is wrong |
17:06.05 | dwc- | yea, still wrong |
17:06.20 | ka6sox-away | bleh |
17:06.51 | ka6sox-away | I don't really want to spend 45minutes on hold with GoDaddy |
17:08.30 | halfhalo | ka6sox-away you wont! the call will be dropped within 30! |
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17:10.46 | dwc- | doesn't godaddy |
17:10.53 | ka6sox-away | "your estimated wait time is?..4 minutes?. |
17:10.55 | ka6sox-away | " |
17:11.04 | dwc- | prefers companies that don't charge $80 domain recovery fees and $400 reactivation fees |
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17:23.08 | ka6sox-away | okay I got a "LIVE" body! |
17:23.25 | halfhalo | is it named eliza? |
17:23.37 | dwc- | was the first question, "is your computer on?' |
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17:23.51 | ka6sox-away | "hi this is Peggy" |
17:24.33 | dwc- | does peggy know what a DNS server is? |
17:25.02 | ka6sox-away | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRLwKw9up3s |
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17:25.35 | wrea | no, peggy does not know what a dns server is |
17:27.26 | wrea | Peggy does know a lot of in soviet russia jokes |
17:27.46 | ka6sox-away | "yes, we do know we have DNS issues, call back in 24hrs if you are still having "issues". |
17:27.48 | ka6sox-away | " |
17:28.20 | jmichaelx | last night, i clicked on 'update feeds' in preware, which seems to have somehow blitzed everything. it now shows no available packages. would anyone know why this happened, and how to fix it? |
17:28.28 | ka6sox-away | I can bring the internet to its knees |
17:28.50 | ka6sox-away | jmichaelx, its the DNS issue?what we are discussing here now. |
17:29.21 | jmichaelx | ka6sox-away: ok sorry. glad to know things are not really blitzed, then. |
17:29.22 | jmichaelx | ty |
17:29.43 | ka6sox-away | yw?its going to be the downfall of the internet when DNS finally croaks. |
17:30.00 | dwc- | ka6sox-away: can you remove ns45 from the domain ns list? |
17:30.03 | SoulShadow | DNS isn't going to croak |
17:30.04 | SoulShadow | lol |
17:30.09 | ka6sox-away | yes, |
17:30.13 | dwc- | nm, you'd still need to edit the NS records anyways |
17:30.19 | ka6sox-away | but I need to get rwhitby to do that |
17:30.27 | dwc- | yea |
17:30.33 | ka6sox-away | but that is the *correct* answer tempy |
17:32.31 | jmichaelx | i think i spend half of my time at work dealing with DNS-related issues, at least on some days |
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19:38.17 | summatusmentis | does impostah allow installing apps for devices that they're not flagged for? |
19:38.56 | summatusmentis | (could I use impostah to install apps flagged at TP only on my newly enyo'd pre2?) |
19:39.58 | Douilspee | hi |
19:40.31 | Douilspee | having ubuntu chroot impact android alpha installation ? |
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19:47.09 | krisp | no |
19:47.31 | krisp | the installer will take another 2GB off your media lv for the cm lvs |
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19:52.46 | Douilspee | krisp: ook ty |
20:00.15 | dwc- | #cyanogenmod-touchpad probably has more people who'd know more about it |
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20:06.30 | trsohmers | But it's flooded with quite frankly, morons who can't read |
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20:24.43 | leo3k | anyone care to shed some light on the errors i get from novacomd? |
20:25.49 | leo3k | novacom_usb_findandattach_thread:496: usb_handle 0x00000000, bus 002 dev 007 |
20:25.57 | leo3k | usbll(00000000) error reading packet, retry: rc(-1), errno 9 |
20:26.02 | leo3k | usbll(00000000) error reading packet, shutdown: rc(-1), errno 9 |
20:26.12 | leo3k | indefinitely |
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21:22.23 | dwc- | looks like the DNS problem "fixed itself" |
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21:39.17 | JetUni | Is it possible to transfer json files of Palm Profile data to other Palm Profiles?? I found the info I want, but don't know if it's possible to transfer |
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21:40.33 | JetUni | Anybody here good with Impostah?? |
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21:42.25 | dwc- | which palm profile data? |
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21:49.22 | JetUni | the messaging data |
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21:54.16 | andybear | hi there. I hope someone can help me here. |
21:54.25 | andybear | i by mistake delete my internal storage. |
21:54.33 | andybear | and by delete i mean, i deleted the lvm storage |
21:55.38 | krisp | all of it? |
21:55.48 | dwc- | not too familiar with LVM internals... if nobody has any better ideas, I'd say recreate the volume and see if the FS is still there. |
21:56.01 | dwc- | (I know that works for partition tables anyways) |
21:56.07 | stbuehler | i think lvm has backup configs |
21:56.07 | krisp | it wont work for lvm |
21:56.23 | krisp | ya if its stock you might be able to get someone else's export |
21:56.43 | dwc- | wait, all of the lvm storage, or just the internal one? |
21:56.43 | krisp | but if you resized the media lv to install ubuntu or android then it probably wont |
21:56.57 | andybear | i don't care for the data |
21:57.06 | andybear | I just want to use the tp agaib |
21:57.09 | andybear | again |
21:57.20 | krisp | can you get into recovery? |
21:57.39 | krisp | turn it off and hold volume up and power when you turn it on |
21:57.43 | andybear | I tried a stock doctor and a meta doctor. both failed |
21:58.13 | krisp | you removed all the logical volumes or just one of them? |
21:58.18 | andybear | just the one |
21:58.27 | andybear | i can connect via novaterm |
21:58.43 | krisp | type lvs and paste it |
21:59.12 | andybear | File descriptor 11 (socket:[14198]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 4212: /bin/sh |
21:59.12 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.12 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.12 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.13 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.13 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.13 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.14 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.14 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
21:59.34 | krisp | type vgdisplay and take not of how much free space there is |
21:59.59 | andybear | this line: Free PE / Size 1619 / 12.65 GB |
22:00.03 | krisp | ya |
22:00.23 | krisp | lvcreate -L 12.65G -n media store |
22:00.38 | krisp | then vgs and you should see a 12.65gb vg called media |
22:00.45 | krisp | then try rebooting or doctoring |
22:01.02 | JetUni | dwc- the messaging data |
22:01.03 | andybear | hm did not work |
22:01.05 | andybear | root@HPTouchPad:/# lvcreate -L 12.65G -n media store |
22:01.05 | andybear | File descriptor 11 (socket:[14198]) leaked on lvcreate invocation. Parent PID 4212: /bin/sh |
22:01.05 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
22:01.06 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
22:01.06 | andybear | root@HPTouchPad:/# |
22:01.11 | krisp | make it smaller |
22:01.15 | krisp | 12.64 or .60 |
22:01.32 | andybear | doh. today is not my best day... |
22:01.46 | krisp | or you could just do -L 1619 |
22:01.50 | krisp | and it will assume extents |
22:02.12 | krisp | lowercase -l |
22:02.16 | krisp | to do extents |
22:02.20 | andybear | root@HPTouchPad:/# vgs |
22:02.20 | andybear | File descriptor 11 (socket:[14198]) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 4212: /bin/sh |
22:02.20 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
22:02.21 | andybear | <PROTECTED> |
22:02.28 | andybear | this is what vgs shows |
22:02.39 | krisp | lvs i mean |
22:02.41 | krisp | sorry |
22:02.51 | krisp | should see media in there now |
22:02.54 | andybear | ok, yes it is there |
22:03.00 | andybear | i will reboot... |
22:03.05 | krisp | one sec |
22:03.13 | krisp | mkfs.vfat /dev/store/media |
22:03.15 | andybear | holding |
22:03.23 | krisp | i think that's the command on there |
22:03.29 | andybear | hmm, yes a filesystem would be nice |
22:03.35 | krisp | if not ls /sbin and look for the mkfs for fat |
22:04.06 | andybear | yeah was in the path |
22:04.23 | andybear | now rebooting, |
22:06.01 | andybear | i think it worked |
22:06.06 | krisp | sweet |
22:06.11 | andybear | I owe you a beer :) |
22:06.21 | andybear | or two |
22:06.26 | krisp | :) |
22:07.32 | andybear | thanks. I was lost there. |
22:10.13 | krisp | no problem good luck |
22:10.42 | andybear | thanks again |
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