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| 00:03.50 | qsfoak | is there any homebrew way to add AWS 1700 / 2100 band to the pre 3 ? |
| 00:04.58 | halfhalo | no |
| 00:05.01 | mputtr | that's hardware |
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| 00:05.15 | mputtr | if your chip does not support those band for 3G there's nothing you can do |
| 00:05.42 | mputtr | otherwise i'd bought the tmo g2 for cheap instead of getting bell canada's DZ for 200 more :( |
| 00:09.22 | qsfoak | here in canada the price of tmo g2 > bell g2 b/c everyone wants a cheap mobile plan on an aws network |
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| 00:45.49 | PatrickC | time to turn the pre2 into an ubuntu machine lol |
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| 00:58.20 | parachute-hptp | I just got my new touchpad, and tried to put Ubuntu on it. I got through the process pretty easily, but is there any reason why Xecutah doesn't give me an option to start XServer? |
| 00:58.33 | parachute-hptp | I've installed XServer on it, and Xecutah. |
| 00:58.51 | parachute-hptp | I tried uninstalling and reinstalling both. I even did a full erase of my tp. No joy :( |
| 01:01.35 | parachute-hptp | Is this the wrong channel to be posting about this? Or is nobody online? |
| 01:05.05 | oldtopman | parachute-hptp: Hello? |
| 01:05.14 | oldtopman | Xserver *is* running. |
| 01:05.21 | oldtopman | xterm is running inside of it. |
| 01:05.30 | oldtopman | xterm > needx xserver running. |
| 01:05.45 | dtzWill | i don't believe we require manually starting the xserver any longer. |
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| 01:06.19 | dtzWill | so you can just tap on xterm |
| 01:06.32 | dtzWill | or the ubuntu chroot--if xterm works and chroot fails make sure you've read/followed the wiki insrtuctions properly :) |
| 01:06.39 | dtzWill | parachute-hptp: ^^ :) |
| 01:07.45 | parachute-hptp | Oh. So I don't need a separate XServer card to run any of the window managers? |
| 01:11.53 | actionfigure | :) |
| 01:12.11 | dtzWill | you do, but it'll be started for you when you do anything that needs it |
| 01:12.46 | parachute-hptp | I just ran startlxde. This is beyond cool. :D |
| 01:12.50 | parachute-hptp | Thank you! |
| 01:12.53 | parachute-hptp | :) |
| 01:13.42 | actionfigure | I have openbox on my system |
| 01:22.17 | oldtopman | lxde/debian FTW |
| 01:22.27 | oldtopman | In am image ofc. |
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| 02:11.35 | PatrickC | dtzWill: the fix you suggested worked! :) |
| 02:11.44 | dtzWill | PatrickC: :D |
| 02:11.55 | dtzWill | i don't remember what fix or the problem, but good to hear ^.^ |
| 02:12.01 | PatrickC | I now have the sdk, and a full dev environment set up :) |
| 02:12.02 | dtzWill | your chroot/ext3fs problem, i tihnk? |
| 02:12.07 | PatrickC | yep |
| 02:12.07 | dtzWill | haha awesome! :D |
| 02:12.26 | PatrickC | sdk was easy. just had to get around the arch problem lol |
| 02:14.07 | wrea | mmm Jack in the Box |
| 02:14.21 | PatrickC | never been there |
| 02:14.26 | halfhalo | what |
| 02:14.28 | PatrickC | had friends work there though lol |
| 02:14.37 | wrea | wtf |
| 02:14.37 | halfhalo | you are dead to me |
| 02:15.12 | wrea | you were never alive to me in the first place, so I cant say the same PatrickC |
| 02:15.25 | PatrickC | umm.. what? lol |
| 02:15.39 | PatrickC | halfhalo said you were dead to him. I didn't say that lol |
| 02:15.48 | wrea | i guess you're even deader to me now |
| 02:15.52 | PatrickC | lol |
| 02:16.02 | halfhalo | i meant you are dead to me PatrickC, not the other non dead guys |
| 02:16.20 | PatrickC | ah ok |
| 02:16.24 | PatrickC | now I get it lol |
| 02:16.27 | wrea | like, you came back as a zombie and i shot you in the head |
| 02:17.27 | PatrickC | I'm guessing they are good? |
| 02:19.09 | wrea | Yeah |
| 02:19.15 | wrea | I get their tacos most of the time |
| 02:19.26 | halfhalo | aka grease to go? |
| 02:19.39 | wrea | Yeah |
| 02:19.43 | dwc- | you go to jack in the box for the tacos? |
| 02:20.07 | dwc- | do you go to taco bell for the burgers too? |
| 02:20.19 | wrea | grease covered meat/soy substitute |
| 02:20.56 | wrea | i get bean burritos at taco bell :P |
| 02:21.18 | halfhalo | so do I... until I saw the calorie count |
| 02:21.28 | halfhalo | its like 300 per burrito |
| 02:21.44 | wrea | Well, damn, im screwed |
| 02:21.45 | wrea | lol |
| 02:22.34 | halfhalo | yeah, once I stopped getting taco bell once a week I dropped like 5 pounds instantly |
| 02:22.43 | PatrickC | lol |
| 02:23.06 | wrea | how many burritos did you usually get? |
| 02:23.19 | halfhalo | 2 or 3. depends if i got breakfast |
| 02:23.29 | wrea | well damn |
| 02:24.28 | PatrickC | wonders if this could get more OT? lol |
| 02:24.56 | wrea | Yes, yes it could |
| 02:25.03 | PatrickC | lol |
| 02:25.09 | halfhalo | example: phistatio's. |
| 02:25.15 | halfhalo | ANYWHO, back to ontopicness |
| 02:25.19 | halfhalo | 19.2*73 |
| 02:26.11 | halfhalo | betcha don't know where that comes from. |
| 02:28.15 | halfhalo | and if you do, you get a cookie |
| 02:29.07 | bpadalino | main clock frequency times multiplier for PLL ? |
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| 02:30.24 | halfhalo | dammit |
| 02:30.35 | halfhalo | yes |
| 02:30.52 | bpadalino | 19.2 gave it away - very common comms crystal frequency |
| 02:31.16 | halfhalo | tis for the pre3 |
| 02:31.31 | bpadalino | very nice |
| 02:31.38 | halfhalo | which is weird in that 1.2GHz is not calculated like that, but instead 125*19.2/2 |
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| 05:32.02 | iam070 | i ported opentyian to webos for 2p & 3p,,but the audio system slow down the game notably.. |
| 05:33.16 | iam070 | is there anyone how to optimize the SDL_audio? |
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| 06:49.40 | GarthPS | Hello |
| 06:50.46 | GarthPS | does the WIDK deals with pre 2 device ? as doawnloaded doctors does note mention the one for pre2? |
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| 07:14.12 | wrea | GarthPS, what are you trying to compile? |
| 07:14.42 | GarthPS | wrea: I want to build for my pre 2 |
| 07:14.57 | GarthPS | wrea: zbar |
| 07:15.11 | GarthPS | http://zbar.sourceforge.net |
| 07:16.21 | wrea | What are you going to use for an interface? |
| 07:16.27 | wrea | cli? |
| 07:17.09 | GarthPS | wrea: what do you mean ? |
| 07:18.53 | wrea | well, once its compiled how're you going to be using it? |
| 07:20.44 | GarthPS | wrea: first I will use its tests programm(in a console) then I will see |
| 07:21.55 | wrea | Well, you shouldnt have any problems getting it compiled |
| 07:23.18 | GarthPS | wrea: also for the pre 2 ? I am nut sure to understand how the WIDK works... |
| 07:24.22 | wrea | well, i'm using WIDK via the instructions for the touchpad fine. |
| 07:25.15 | wrea | I'd try it first as you've set it up and if you run into any problems then thatd be the time to address them |
| 07:27.08 | GarthPS | wrea: yeah it was what I wanted to do was just anticipating :) |
| 07:27.34 | hewball | so annoying the Pre3 is missing the State field for credit card registration in Australia |
| 07:30.22 | GarthPS | wrea: anyway thx |
| 07:30.29 | wrea | np |
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| 09:04.02 | KungPhoo | it's true!! Who'd have thought |
| 09:04.47 | wrea | ? |
| 09:06.53 | bedrock | how does one go about getting an app added to preware feeds (i.e. the PreCentral feed) |
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| 09:59.59 | kubossos | hello guys |
| 10:00.26 | kubossos | I have old palm pre with webos 1.4.5 and simlocked by o2 UK |
| 10:00.36 | kubossos | can I upgrade it to 2.0? |
| 10:01.16 | kubossos | do I need unlock it first? If yes is there a way to do it for free:)? |
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| 10:16.03 | directhex | kubossos, there's no official way to do it with o2 uk. you can use metadoctor to create a firmware which will apply |
| 10:16.16 | directhex | kubossos, you don't need to unlock it unless you plan to use a non-o2 sim in it |
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| 10:47.49 | kubossos | directhex, thanks, I looked around official website, but it seems to be wrong place;) MetaDoctor is in progress;) |
| 10:49.06 | directhex | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade covers it |
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| 13:48.50 | rwhitby | FYI: http://bit.ly/webos-survival-kit |
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| 13:52.37 | Douilspee | link tu ubuntu :) ? |
| 13:52.59 | Douilspee | ty btw |
| 13:54.43 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: I saw that, I appreciate the tone with which it's written |
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| 13:54.53 | summatusmentis | can I ask what the motivation was? |
| 13:55.26 | Log1x | i lol'd @ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/3892664015_e410aac714.jpg |
| 13:56.54 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: you've seen the rumours like I have. |
| 13:57.31 | summatusmentis | indeed |
| 13:57.40 | summatusmentis | I guess I didn't seem them in the same way |
| 13:57.49 | summatusmentis | or perhaps I'm just unrealistically hopeful |
| 13:58.03 | rwhitby | hope for the best, prepare for the worst |
| 13:58.30 | summatusmentis | fair enough |
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| 14:29.10 | dwc- | crazy UM fans |
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| 14:32.53 | Reckie | hiya |
| 14:33.26 | Reckie | havent been using irc since the days of Quake2, can you register the nick with the server somehow? |
| 14:34.20 | Log1x | /ns register |
| 14:34.29 | Log1x | or /msg NickServ register if your client doesn't support /ns |
| 14:35.59 | Reckie | tyvm :D |
| 14:37.02 | Reckie | While editing carrierdb.json to get MMS working I noticed there seem to be a hashed part for each carrier, is it possible to somehow decrypt this to see what settings it uses? |
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| 16:25.27 | dtzWill | oh thank god, gf's touchpad _finally_ booted after being on touchstone all night--literally just booted now. -.- |
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| 16:41.27 | atomsk | Hey I was wondering how long preware takes to install |
| 16:41.48 | RagingMind | atomsk, that depends on a couple things |
| 16:41.49 | oilsworkn | not long |
| 16:42.24 | RagingMind | atomsk, if you've just doctored your phone and it's currently downloading/installing all your old apps... it can take a long while |
| 16:42.39 | RagingMind | otherwise it's like oilsworkn say's... not long |
| 16:42.51 | oilsworkn | yeah, pause all that crap and get preware on first xD |
| 16:43.03 | atomsk | hmmm its installing on the touchpad |
| 16:43.49 | atomsk | I did the driver installer and then chose preware. Seems to be spinning on Installing: org.webosinterals.preware_1.8.3_arm_ipk |
| 16:44.32 | RagingMind | atomsk, so this is from quickinstall? |
| 16:44.59 | atomsk | yes |
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| 16:52.48 | atomsk | @RagingMind you still there? |
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| 16:54.21 | ghostinator | for java script resources .. over 18,000 nodes is quite a bit right? |
| 16:54.30 | ghostinator | for one app alone to use |
| 16:55.20 | RagingMind | quick install is closed source and though the guy that makes it does lots of cool stuff for webos, it's not really a webos-internals thing |
| 16:55.42 | atomsk | ahhh gotcha thanks for the help appreciated :) |
| 16:55.59 | RagingMind | there are other ways of getting preware installed, but when using quick install it's best to ask the author (jay canuk?) |
| 16:56.12 | RagingMind | ah, boo... I didn't type fast enough :( |
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| 19:08.55 | node | Hi, I'm working on my first homebrew app. I make a PalmCall to an unpublished service (configureNwProxies), but wasn't able to see it. I changed my package to the com.palm namespace, but now I get an Error does not have sufficient outbound permissions. How do I get around this? |
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| 19:10.15 | node | Just for clarity, I'm working of a touchpad |
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| 19:30.13 | node | if I'm in the wrong place, let me know. Don't wanna be a nuisance, but I am at somewhat of a dead end |
| 19:35.15 | roxfan | well, it's a dead channel |
| 19:35.25 | roxfan | so you're in the right place i guess |
| 19:35.35 | node | sweet... |
| 19:37.29 | wrea | Just ask your question and wait for someone to respond |
| 19:47.00 | nebj00la | w00t |
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| 20:40.49 | bedrock | how do i go about getting an app pulished to the preware feeds? |
| 20:40.56 | bedrock | published* |
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| 22:30.09 | virx | Hi all, following webinternal wiki, trying to configure PDK environment on Ubuntu 11.04 x86_64 - everything works up to buiding libsdl which fails with error: "configure: error: I can't find the libraries for the thread implementation", anyone have any ideas how to fix? |
| 22:30.17 | virx | or is it a right channel? |
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| 22:31.26 | mputtr | this is the right channel |
| 22:31.36 | mputtr | the only question is, is the right person on that can help you |
| 22:31.46 | wrea | virx, is sdl needed for what you'll be doing? |
| 22:32.07 | virx | yes, I want to play with dosbox |
| 22:34.39 | virx | I guess I could compile libsdl without thread support |
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| 22:44.09 | wrea | virx, I'm taking it uses pthreads for threads support, so I guess make sure its compiled before? |
| 22:45.52 | virx | wrea I can not find anything related to pthread in packages directory. In fact I tried to run "make stage" hoping it would take care of dependencies but it failed building glib with the same pthread error |
| 22:46.49 | wrea | I guess you can try editing in glib's makefile to add --disable-threads |
| 22:47.46 | virx | I take it back -"make stage" worked when I ran it 2nd time - either it disabled pthread support or found the libraries, but it passed glib build time |
| 22:48.37 | wrea | :) |
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| 23:22.13 | mobythor | test this mofo... |
| 23:22.34 | mobythor | greetings carbonated based bipeds...lol |
| 23:26.39 | mobythor | maybe not? *phoof*... |
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