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| 01:13.28 | LarrySteeze | Ok...let's get back to this |
| 01:13.33 | LarrySteeze | if gyrojoe can do it, I can do it too |
| 01:13.58 | resistivecorpse_ | anyone know how to change system sounds on the TP? |
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| 01:15.06 | resistivecorpse_ | found em with internalz in /usr/palm/sounds but i cant copy/overrite into that folder with internalz |
| 01:16.01 | wrea | resistivecorpse_, did you put internalz into master mode? |
| 01:16.13 | resistivecorpse_ | how? |
| 01:16.28 | wrea | resistivecorpse_, in preferences at the very bottom |
| 01:16.55 | wrea | it'll make it so you can change anything, so dont be too careless |
| 01:17.38 | resistivecorpse_ | thanks. only wanna tweak card discard sounds |
| 01:18.06 | resistivecorpse_ | found the corresponding .mp3 but needed your tip to move it |
| 01:18.24 | wrea | np |
| 01:23.06 | LarrySteeze | has his veer in about 43 different pieces now :D |
| 01:23.51 | LarrySteeze | and the awesome part is, the void sticker is still (mostly) in tact |
| 01:24.00 | wrea | LarrySteeze, I sent mine out to get the screen replaced |
| 01:24.16 | LarrySteeze | what happened to the screen? |
| 01:24.31 | LarrySteeze | or was it just a bad unit |
| 01:24.42 | wrea | I got it and it came with a load of dead/stuck pixels |
| 01:26.00 | LarrySteeze | yuck |
| 01:26.05 | wrea | Yeah |
| 01:26.05 | LarrySteeze | mine ate a microsim adapter |
| 01:26.12 | LarrySteeze | so I'm in the process of getting it out |
| 01:26.27 | wrea | Yeah, I read microsim adapters and the veer dont mix |
| 01:26.43 | LarrySteeze | which is unfortunate for me |
| 01:26.54 | LarrySteeze | because I don't have a GSM carrier, and my wife has an iPhone 4 |
| 01:27.23 | LarrySteeze | but I think a microsim adapter will be fine, you just have to tape the top and bottom to ensure the microsim stays in without moving |
| 01:27.39 | LarrySteeze | without covering the contacts of course |
| 01:27.42 | wrea | I'm getting fed up with testing adhoc |
| 01:27.58 | LarrySteeze | adhoc hosting or connections |
| 01:28.37 | wrea | I use an usb adapter to use for adhox so i still have an internet connection and network manager gets confused and sometime the internal card doesnt come back up |
| 01:28.56 | LarrySteeze | windows 7? |
| 01:29.01 | wrea | linux |
| 01:29.05 | LarrySteeze | odd |
| 01:29.12 | LarrySteeze | what variant? |
| 01:29.16 | wrea | ubuntu |
| 01:29.23 | wrea | (I know, I know) :P |
| 01:29.31 | LarrySteeze | so, basically...windows? |
| 01:29.33 | LarrySteeze | ;-) |
| 01:29.41 | wrea | I was lazy |
| 01:29.50 | LarrySteeze | it's cool. My computer dual boots windows and ubuntu |
| 01:29.52 | wrea | windows with a shitty interface |
| 01:29.57 | wrea | unity blows |
| 01:30.12 | LarrySteeze | I have a fedora machine too though |
| 01:30.16 | LarrySteeze | it's not much better |
| 01:30.32 | wrea | I'd use win7 to test adhoc, but I dont want to keep boot back and forth |
| 01:30.42 | LarrySteeze | just running it because of amahi, though I'm soon switching to lmce |
| 01:31.14 | wrea | Anyone want to help test something for me with an adhoc network? |
| 01:31.17 | LarrySteeze | I'm confused though, ubuntu should have no problem with multiple network adapters |
| 01:31.32 | LarrySteeze | wrea: with which device? |
| 01:31.37 | wrea | touchpad |
| 01:31.40 | LarrySteeze | I only have pre, pre 2, veer, and TP |
| 01:31.51 | LarrySteeze | sure, what do you want done? |
| 01:32.00 | LarrySteeze | I can put the veer project on hold for a minute |
| 01:32.15 | wrea | need to change something in /tmp/.wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 01:32.27 | wrea | and then connect to an adhoc network |
| 01:32.35 | wrea | It probably wont be visible |
| 01:32.43 | LarrySteeze | so ill have to identify the name |
| 01:32.51 | wrea | Right |
| 01:33.07 | wrea | in the conf change ap_mode=1 to ap_mode=2 while wifi is on, then try connecting |
| 01:33.16 | LarrySteeze | well I don't exactly have a cable nearby |
| 01:33.24 | LarrySteeze | let me see if internalz will let me do it hold on |
| 01:33.56 | LarrySteeze | woot |
| 01:33.59 | LarrySteeze | 13% battery |
| 01:33.59 | wrea | It will, just turn on hidden files in prefs |
| 01:34.03 | wrea | lol |
| 01:34.25 | LarrySteeze | that's the lowest I've run this thing |
| 01:35.06 | LarrySteeze | so you want wifi on...does it have to be connected to a network or not connected to a network? |
| 01:36.06 | wrea | doesnt need to be connected, just on so the conf is created |
| 01:36.12 | LarrySteeze | loost my internalz icon, hold on, let me restart luna |
| 01:38.14 | LarrySteeze | are you looking for me to create this file? it doesn't exist in my /tmp/ |
| 01:38.34 | LarrySteeze | and I'm currently connected |
| 01:38.37 | LarrySteeze | disconnects |
| 01:38.59 | wrea | weird, you sure you have hidden files set in prefs? |
| 01:39.11 | LarrySteeze | of course |
| 01:39.46 | LarrySteeze | i have it now |
| 01:39.52 | wrea | okay |
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| 01:39.57 | jelatta | hey guys, found some more keyboard tricks on the TP |
| 01:40.10 | LarrySteeze | and you want the value to be 2? |
| 01:40.16 | wrea | Yes |
| 01:40.24 | LarrySteeze | ok |
| 01:40.43 | LarrySteeze | and I'm assuming you want me to set up an ad hoc and connect, or at least attempt? |
| 01:40.46 | jelatta | if you hold the ukey and drag your finger to the u^ symbol, that will go back in history |
| 01:40.58 | wrea | LarrySteeze, yes |
| 01:41.17 | jelatta | if you hold the u key and hit the u with the accent grave, it will go forward in history |
| 01:41.17 | LarrySteeze | um |
| 01:41.26 | LarrySteeze | give me a minute while I disconnect from wifi :P |
| 01:41.32 | LarrySteeze | I'll be off then back on |
| 01:42.57 | jelatta | ~infobot |
| 01:42.57 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, infobot is a her! |
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| 01:45.04 | LarrySteeze | no beans |
| 01:45.12 | LarrySteeze | "Unable to connect. Try again." |
| 01:45.33 | wrea | Can you double check the value in the conf again |
| 01:45.39 | wrea | I have it change on me sometimes |
| 01:45.40 | LarrySteeze | sure |
| 01:45.59 | LarrySteeze | I'm down to 7% battery so it looks like on the last leg, it's on it's last leg |
| 01:46.06 | LarrySteeze | still at 2 |
| 01:46.25 | wrea | Thanks |
| 01:46.28 | LarrySteeze | puts it on touchstone |
| 01:47.00 | wrea | So if definitely needs another wpa_supplicant for it to work |
| 01:47.05 | LarrySteeze | it could be computer that has the error too, so I'll test it again in a few minutes |
| 01:47.21 | wrea | I have to use mine and changing the value to get it to work |
| 01:47.29 | wrea | Okay, thanks again LarrySteeze |
| 01:47.31 | LarrySteeze | np |
| 01:48.10 | LarrySteeze | freetether does infrastructure, right? |
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| 01:50.32 | Loudergood | pretty sure |
| 01:51.05 | LarrySteeze | so that wouldn't be another testing agent then |
| 01:51.30 | LarrySteeze | has anyone else here disassembled a veer? (other than rod or joe) |
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| 01:52.04 | LarrySteeze | actually, joe isn't here, but I'd love to talk to him |
| 01:57.35 | LarrySteeze | wrea: now that my TP has charged for a moment, let me go try ad-hoc with my fedora machine |
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| 02:07.54 | LarrySteeze | wrea: tried with two computer OS's and android, and no go, unfortunately |
| 02:08.16 | wrea | Okay, so then wpa_supplicant is part of the problem |
| 02:08.23 | wrea | Thanks Larry |
| 02:08.35 | LarrySteeze | no problem |
| 02:08.45 | LarrySteeze | I can try again with ubuntu if you want, but it'll require a reboot for me |
| 02:09.07 | wrea | Nah, that seems pretty conclusive to me for now |
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| 02:09.13 | LarrySteeze | shrugs * |
| 02:09.16 | jelatta | also the 3rd option key for the y character acts as the tab key in xterm |
| 02:09.21 | LarrySteeze | I'm all about testing as many times as possible |
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| 02:10.42 | jelatta | i'm trying to find the alt key for finch :) |
| 02:11.03 | wrea | My patch isnt working like it should for whatever reason too. It removes the [IBSS] tag and adds a prefix to the ssid so you know its adhoc. So for all the rest of the system knows its infrastructure. |
| 02:11.47 | LarrySteeze | it really shouldn't matter, ad-hoc or not |
| 02:12.01 | LarrySteeze | the connection goes in and out just the same |
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| 02:12.59 | LarrySteeze | I'm about ready to buy a new veer. Anyone here want a new (unopened) veer for $55 or so? |
| 02:15.02 | crimsonredmk | why buy a new one if this one is unopened? |
| 02:15.32 | LarrySteeze | no |
| 02:15.40 | LarrySteeze | I'm possibly buying a new one |
| 02:15.53 | LarrySteeze | I figured as long as I'm buying one, I could pick up more if needed |
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| 02:16.39 | snowwhitie | Hello |
| 02:16.58 | snowwhitie | Anybody here on that can assist with a issue I have on my Touchpad |
| 02:17.18 | wrea | LarrySteeze, where are you getting them for that price? |
| 02:17.41 | snowwhitie | Having issues installing packages/software with WebOSQuickInstall. If i try, it just stays there....any suggestion or tips? |
| 02:18.02 | snowwhitie | also, when I go into device management, nothing shows up in the list of installed items that I can uninstall |
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| 02:20.47 | cat-xeger | Hm... well, that'd be the first time luna's crashed for me on the touchpad. |
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| 02:42.31 | jacques | luna crashes on me when it's been running for a while |
| 02:43.15 | jacques | actually this last time it looks like the tp rebooted |
| 02:43.58 | cat-xeger | It seemed to be linked to youtube... but we'll see if it's happier after updating. |
| 02:47.27 | jacques | updateing what? |
| 02:47.30 | jacques | updating |
| 02:47.58 | wrea | I need a whiteboard to keep track of all the combinations of stuff I tried. |
| 02:48.53 | cat-xeger | Latest update to webos |
| 02:49.54 | jacques | 3.0.2 or is there a newer one out? |
| 02:50.08 | cat-xeger | 3.0.2.68 |
| 02:50.31 | jacques | ok. yeah that was a good update |
| 02:50.40 | cat-xeger | hopes so! |
| 02:50.49 | cat-xeger | It's certainly taking for bloody ever to install :) |
| 02:51.14 | jacques | yep. |
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| 02:58.28 | cat-xeger | Well... promising -- at least I'm getting something that looks like trying to download video instead of trying to do something with luna |
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| 04:46.18 | bhuey | folks |
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| 04:51.07 | arlamczyk | hello again |
| 04:54.03 | arlamczyk | i was here a couple nights ago, and was walked through a webos 2 upgrade on my vzw pre + |
| 04:56.41 | arlamczyk | anyway, today i tried to set up the palm profile and got as far as turning on location services, and webos hung...so i removed the battery and restarted, and it hung again at the same stage of setting location services |
| 04:58.14 | arlamczyk | i searched the forums and found a post that suggested i redoctor the phone with the same metadoctor from the other night |
| 05:00.32 | arlamczyk | then sign into the palm profile (which WAS set up successfully prior to the problems with location services) and once signed in, i should be good to go |
| 05:00.41 | arlamczyk | is this what i need to do? |
| 05:17.58 | wrea | Im guessing PmWifiService is what generates wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 05:42.07 | PatrickC_TP | dwc-: ping? |
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| 05:51.52 | PatrickC_TP | anyone here want to work on MAP Bluetooth profile on the pre2? |
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| 06:27.16 | wrea | PatrickC_TP, Gotten far on it? |
| 06:27.24 | PatrickC_TP | somewhat |
| 06:27.41 | PatrickC_TP | I've found the binary file for the Bluetooth profiles (or what seems to be) |
| 06:27.58 | rhcp[linux] | compile strace for pre |
| 06:28.02 | rhcp[linux] | and strace it |
| 06:28.11 | rhcp[linux] | should tell you where the stuff is stored/read from |
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| 06:59.13 | wrea | getting compile errors when trying to compile strace |
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| 07:16.21 | PatrickC_TP | wrea: I'm off for now. let me know what you come up with :) patrick@awesomeapps.co.cc |
| 07:16.33 | PatrickC_TP | I'll msg you a different address if that one doesn't work |
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| 07:23.03 | dwc- | PatrickC_TP: what's up? |
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| 07:23.15 | PatrickC_TP | I found what I was looking for |
| 07:23.24 | dwc- | ok |
| 07:23.32 | PatrickC_TP | I needed something from the backlog, and the nslu2 logs never worked for me before tonight :) |
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| 07:31.56 | Saij | Test |
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| 07:35.50 | Saij | Does wirc have trouble scrolling to the bottom properly for anyone else? |
| 07:36.23 | dwc- | sometimes yes |
| 07:38.21 | Saij | Is it a pixi thing? Or a webos thing |
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| 08:09.29 | dwc- | webos thing |
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| 08:39.16 | Jack87 | ~log |
| 08:39.16 | infobot | i heard log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/ and the latest log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals.txt |
| 08:44.19 | rhcp[linux] | damn |
| 08:44.20 | rhcp[linux] | lol |
| 08:44.24 | rhcp[linux] | I need that script :) |
| 08:46.15 | rhcp[linux] | does infobot log? |
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| 10:17.31 | cryptk | rhcp, no, infobot is not what does the logging |
| 10:17.58 | cryptk | nslu2-log is what does the logging... we have just taught infobot where the logs are located at |
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| 10:24.15 | Jack87 | cryptk, haha i remember the day we taught infobot that |
| 10:25.02 | Jack87 | i requested it to be in topic. didnt quit fit and thiw was the perfect alternative! good call! ive used it many times since |
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| 10:25.28 | Jack87 | by the way LXDE runs really nice in chroot |
| 10:26.00 | Jack87 | cryptk, i need to get synergy going for this sucker |
| 10:31.27 | Jack87 | cryptk, did you have to do anything special to get it to work with x chroot? |
| 10:35.57 | cryptk | nothing special |
| 10:36.37 | Jack87 | doesnt know how to configure synergy server... playing now |
| 10:37.21 | cryptk | http://pastebin.com/vdBZzDEC |
| 10:37.28 | cryptk | there is the one I use on my work laptop |
| 10:37.32 | cryptk | which is a synergy server |
| 10:37.34 | Jack87 | sadly im in windows right now |
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| 10:50.31 | Jack87 | OK THIS IS COOL |
| 10:50.32 | Jack87 | BUT... |
| 10:50.36 | Jack87 | I AM STUCK IN CAPS |
| 10:50.55 | Jack87 | cryptk, how do i not do caps while on TP? |
| 10:51.14 | Jack87 | ooh shit even sound works in the chroot |
| 10:53.21 | cryptk | uhm, press shift |
| 10:53.30 | Jack87 | no go |
| 10:53.33 | cryptk | sometimes the shift key gets stuck with synergy when it first conencts |
| 10:53.45 | cryptk | usually if you tap both shift keys it will un-stick |
| 10:53.49 | Jack87 | ill keep playing |
| 10:54.15 | Jack87 | WHILE PRESSING SHIFT I CANT TYPE |
| 10:54.29 | Jack87 | AND WHEN CAPS LOCK KEY IS PRESSED TYPING STOPS THAN TO |
| 10:56.18 | cryptk | hrm |
| 10:56.21 | cryptk | I didn't get any of that |
| 10:56.27 | Jack87 | ya its odd |
| 10:56.38 | Jack87 | it says on the server config size that sometimes there is an issue with it |
| 10:56.40 | cryptk | scroll the mouse back and forth, then tap both shifts one at a time while it is on the TP |
| 10:56.51 | Jack87 | and to turn half duplex for it which i did but still no luck |
| 10:56.58 | Jack87 | ok |
| 10:57.42 | Jack87 | HUM SHIFT KEYS ACT STRANGE |
| 10:58.07 | Jack87 | WHEN PRESSING LEFT SHIT I CANT MOVE CURSOR BUT RIGHT SHIT WORKS |
| 10:58.16 | Jack87 | damn all caps is ugly |
| 10:59.22 | Jack87 | KEYBOARD DOESNT EVEN WORK WHEN I TOGGLE CAPS LOCK |
| 11:01.35 | Jack87 | ya with caps offf on computer it is on on the tp |
| 11:01.59 | Jack87 | and when i turn caps off on tp (as in off on the computer) tp no longer accepts keyboard input of any kind |
| 11:02.09 | Jack87 | so weird |
| 11:03.46 | Jack87 | intresting.. when x screen is in card view it disconnects synergy |
| 11:03.57 | Jack87 | comes back when out of card view |
| 11:04.10 | Jack87 | when x is brought fort |
| 11:04.40 | Jack87 | rwhitby, did you have any strange casses with caps when using synergy? |
| 11:08.31 | Jack87 | ill have to figure it out another day.. |
| 11:08.49 | Jack87 | but cryptk good call about using synergy with x... its awesome |
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| 11:10.19 | hk135 | hi guys does anyone know how I can extract a uimage multi-image on linux? |
| 11:16.03 | Jack87 | im trying to install an i386 ubuntu app with --force-all |
| 11:17.03 | Jack87 | COOL THING IS THAT IT INSTALLED. BUT IT DOEST ACTUALLY RUN HAHA |
| 11:17.58 | cryptk | Jack87, it will never run... wrong assembly code |
| 11:18.09 | cryptk | hk135, do you have the mkimage utilities installed? |
| 11:18.17 | hk135 | cryptk: yup |
| 11:18.34 | Jack87 | AHHH I REALLY NEED TO GET SOME SLEEP BUT THIS CAPS THING IS JUST PISSING ME OFF |
| 11:18.44 | hk135 | cryptk: have tried using dd, but i recon the mulit-image header is larger than 64b |
| 11:18.57 | cryptk | hk135, yep, it is larger than 64b |
| 11:19.00 | cryptk | it is 76b |
| 11:19.03 | hk135 | cryptk: but dont know much bigger |
| 11:19.08 | hk135 | nice, thank you |
| 11:19.59 | cryptk | so strip off the first 76b with dd, then strip out the next X number of bytes (however large the kernel portion is based on mkimage -l) and then the rest is either an initrd or an initramfs |
| 11:20.18 | hk135 | cool, will have a go now |
| 11:20.19 | cryptk | hk135, I have a shell script that will do it all for you |
| 11:20.37 | hk135 | yeah, that would be awsome |
| 11:21.06 | cryptk | do you know if it is made with an initramfs or an initrd? |
| 11:21.21 | hk135 | not yet, im trying to disect the webos-doctor installer |
| 11:21.51 | Jack87 | cryptk, does this make any sense to you? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9259463/Capture.PNG |
| 11:21.56 | cryptk | the sript I have splits it up and extracts the initramfs, but I will pastebin everything short of the extracting the initramfs part |
| 11:22.17 | cryptk | http://pastebin.com/i1WtVe6D |
| 11:22.40 | cryptk | Jack87, I have never used synergys in windows |
| 11:22.44 | cryptk | so I just work with config files |
| 11:22.55 | hk135 | cryptk: thanks, much appreciated |
| 11:23.04 | cryptk | hk135, np |
| 11:23.12 | Jack87 | i guess i should just mess with the config file. i think all that gui does is setup a config in windws |
| 11:23.16 | cryptk | I am assuming you know how to get into an initrd and initramfs |
| 11:23.24 | Jack87 | my linux install has gone too shit and i been to lazy to fix it |
| 11:25.24 | cryptk | install the 11.10 beta and aptitude install gnome-shell |
| 11:25.25 | cryptk | done |
| 11:25.53 | Jack87 | hehe ill give that a shot |
| 11:26.04 | Jack87 | sounds like it might actually fix my issue |
| 11:26.26 | cryptk | it will get you a working install and gnome-shell (which is far better than unity) |
| 11:26.58 | Jack87 | cryptk, well installing gnome shell is what broke my ubuntu install actually |
| 11:27.09 | hucksy | unity is nice |
| 11:27.16 | Jack87 | but it was in 11.04. so maybe it will play nice in 11.10 |
| 11:27.32 | Jack87 | hucksy, eh. it bugs me i really gave it a chance for a few months but nah its a no go |
| 11:29.15 | cryptk | I have gnome-shell working in 11.04, but you definitely need some more advanced linux knowledge to get it all working |
| 11:30.25 | hucksy | Jack87: some bugs are horrible but over all i like unity, the way it works and the next version looks nice too |
| 11:31.50 | Jack87 | i wonder how well it will play on the TP might not be too bad |
| 11:31.55 | Jack87 | 2d that is |
| 11:31.57 | Jack87 | not 3d |
| 11:34.55 | Jack87 | cryptk, im going to reboot and try again |
| 11:35.13 | Jack87 | if i dont get it going kick me out of here so i go to bed |
| 11:35.19 | Jack87 | :) |
| 11:37.23 | cryptk | will do... |
| 11:37.32 | cryptk | I will ipban you off the bouncer for a few hours, lol |
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| 12:57.13 | GarthPS | hi |
| 12:58.22 | GarthPS | where can I found the last version of webos quick install ? |
| 12:58.32 | GarthPS | is there an home page some where? |
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| 13:13.26 | luwangui | when looking around the pre (with novacom) where can i find installed applications? |
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| 13:14.58 | wobremer | Hi |
| 13:16.32 | wobremer | is the Linphone project for Webos still alive, or is it stopped due to the HP announcement? |
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| 13:30.05 | pcworld | luwangui: /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm(/applications) |
| 13:30.27 | pcworld | wobremer: if it was stopped, then a while ago I guess since this project is pretty old |
| 13:34.09 | luwangui | thanks! |
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| 13:35.18 | wobremer_ | that's bad news |
| 13:35.37 | wobremer_ | then it never made it beyond alpha status |
| 13:35.47 | wobremer_ | I'd like to get the software |
| 13:41.39 | cryptk | wobremer_, rwhitby is the one that you need to contact about that |
| 13:42.17 | cryptk | the linphone alpha is tightly controlled by rwhitby, I am not sure why it has been in alpha so long... I am not part of that project |
| 13:42.36 | cryptk | is about to update to oneric on the home PC... livin on the edge |
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| 15:29.04 | wrea | PatrickC_TP, need strace still? |
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| 15:32.57 | PatrickC_TP | wrea: probably |
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| 15:36.07 | Abyssul | how do you upload an image to the wiki to be displayed in an article |
| 15:36.20 | Abyssul | Im going to work on the Xecutah page |
| 15:37.30 | Abyssul | Nvm found it |
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| 15:52.45 | summatusmentis | has anyone done X11 forwarding usng xecutah? |
| 15:52.56 | summatusmentis | (without chroot) |
| 15:55.57 | Guest26524 | What I would like is hitting a remote server via XDMCP. If I ever find myself with free time I may look into trying to get that working. |
| 15:57.34 | Guest26524 | Dammit. When did I disconnect and loose my nick :P |
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| 16:14.03 | PatrickC | wrea: ping |
| 16:14.24 | wrea | pong |
| 16:14.37 | PatrickC | did you get strace working? |
| 16:15.45 | wrea | got it compiled and it should be good to go |
| 16:15.56 | PatrickC | ok, that's good |
| 16:16.11 | PatrickC | needs to read up on strace to see why it was suggested :) |
| 16:18.40 | PatrickC | how come Impostah doesn't work on all appid's? |
| 16:18.51 | Abyssul | Only free appids correct? |
| 16:20.20 | PatrickC | I know that |
| 16:20.30 | PatrickC | it didn't work with com.palm.app.mobilehotspot |
| 16:22.11 | pcworld | I'm not sure, but I think they may have changed sth serverside |
| 16:22.23 | PatrickC | sth? |
| 16:22.30 | PatrickC | the*? |
| 16:22.55 | PatrickC | pcworld: your app... does it do bluetooth stuff? |
| 16:23.17 | pcworld | sth = something |
| 16:23.41 | pcworld | err... how would you imagine bluetooth be working in my app? |
| 16:24.08 | PatrickC | idk |
| 16:24.22 | PatrickC | I did a find on bluetooth yesterday, and your app came up a lot |
| 16:24.35 | pcworld | in Google? |
| 16:25.17 | PatrickC | in novaterm |
| 16:25.27 | PatrickC | I did find | grep bluetooth |
| 16:25.51 | pcworld | really? haven't done anything with bluetooth... what files did it find? |
| 16:26.04 | PatrickC | in the jailfile |
| 16:26.32 | PatrickC | I don't remember exactly, but it did help me :) |
| 16:26.36 | pcworld | I think the jailfile is for all apps, isn't it? |
| 16:26.45 | PatrickC | I found some files I need... because of you :) |
| 16:26.52 | PatrickC | only your app came up |
| 16:27.24 | pcworld | really no idea :D |
| 16:27.55 | PatrickC | lol |
| 16:28.19 | PatrickC | wonders if we have a bluetooth guru in here? :) |
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| 16:29.00 | PatrickC | I know where the bluetooth binary file is (or one of them) |
| 16:30.47 | pcworld | what do you want to do with them? |
| 16:31.19 | PatrickC | put MAP on the pre2 and possibly even pre-/pre+ and pixi if possibly |
| 16:31.22 | PatrickC | pssible* |
| 16:31.26 | PatrickC | possible** |
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| 16:34.05 | pcworld | MAP is file transfer? |
| 16:34.29 | PatrickC | Messaging Access Profile |
| 16:34.33 | PatrickC | SMS fwd'ing |
| 16:34.47 | PatrickC | I think PAN is file transfer |
| 16:35.16 | Abyssul | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Xecutah |
| 16:35.20 | Abyssul | Booyah |
| 16:37.14 | pcworld | PatrickC: btw, is it "an FTP server/client" or "a FTP server"? (I think the first is right, but I'm not sure ;)) |
| 16:37.56 | PatrickC | "an" is normally only used before a vowel |
| 16:38.09 | PatrickC | so I believe its "a FTP server" |
| 16:38.11 | Abyssul | A, not an |
| 16:38.14 | PatrickC | but I say "an" :P |
| 16:38.22 | PatrickC | is also in the country :) |
| 16:38.33 | Abyssul | Can Xecutah run on a Pre, Pixi? |
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| 16:39.09 | PatrickC | yes iirc |
| 16:39.32 | pcworld | PatrickC: Abyssul: but don't you pronunciate FTP "ef tea ...", so a vowel at the beginning? that's why I'm not sure |
| 16:39.44 | PatrickC | yeah.. same here |
| 16:39.46 | PatrickC | lol |
| 16:40.01 | Abyssul | Idk. Im a CS major, not English |
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| 16:41.42 | Abyssul | I wonder how many articles I have create to get a + :p |
| 16:42.18 | PatrickC | lol |
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| 16:56.13 | pcworld | hmmm... 10 min for an app preview is definitely too long... |
| 17:00.38 | NuttyBunny_TP | preview? where. |
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| 17:06.07 | pcworld | NuttyBunny_TP: I'm trying to make a preview video of my app |
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| 17:07.03 | PatrickC_TP | pcworld: "if you have the app, you know what it does" |
| 17:07.25 | PatrickC_TP | description :-) |
| 17:07.46 | pcworld | that would be the short version :) |
| 17:08.24 | PatrickC_TP | lol |
| 17:28.46 | PatrickC | rwhitby: http://ompldr.org/vYWRvbw any idea? |
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| 17:31.43 | PatrickC | or anyone who has experience with Xecutah.. |
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| 17:42.48 | RichT23 | hoot |
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| 17:43.04 | RichT23 | Ya i got my Veer today =) |
| 17:43.27 | RichT23 | it is so small and sexy |
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| 17:49.48 | PatrickC | RichT23: cool! |
| 17:50.02 | tEhLoNeR | RichT23: what color did you get? |
| 17:50.16 | PatrickC | pink/purple? |
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| 18:03.35 | DThought | can anyone tell me the factory governor setting of an pre3 ? |
| 18:07.58 | summatusmentis | I bet someone can |
| 18:08.02 | summatusmentis | but not I |
| 18:08.14 | Jack87 | RichT23: don't put a micro sim in there. or micro sim adapter. |
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| 18:18.07 | sagi | Trying to install Xecutah on an 3.0.2.652 emulator from Preware fails: seems like the package is never really downloaded, but it says "Launch" although the app is never installed. /var/log/messages shows: 2011-09-16T18:17:27.078019Z [256] qemux86 user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: org.webosinternals.preware: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of undefined, palmInitFramework506:14081 |
| 18:18.46 | pcworld | that style error is usual |
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| 18:19.15 | pcworld | do you install the i686 version of Xecutah, if there is any? |
| 18:20.27 | sagi | pcworld: ok, so I don't see anything else Preware realted in the log. I can install using Internalz by downloading the ipk. I installed whatever package Preware downloads from the public feed. |
| 18:21.56 | summatusmentis | pcworld: what? i686 version of Xecutah? Xecutah is a webOS app |
| 18:22.27 | pcworld | summatusmentis: sagi wants to install on the emulator |
| 18:22.39 | summatusmentis | oh |
| 18:22.53 | summatusmentis | well, afaik there's no i686 version |
| 18:23.19 | sagi | I did find an i686 version in the feeds, but palm-install fails to install it too: |
| 18:23.44 | summatusmentis | I'm obviously way out of my leage and don't know what I'm talking about |
| 18:24.03 | sagi | >> palm-install org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk >> installing package org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk on device "emulator" {ef78a1d370646748908d7503b3ff22be9a311b09} tcp 51485 >> palm-install: install failed with status: FAILED_IPKG_INSTALL |
| 18:24.57 | RichT23 | I got Black =) |
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| 18:25.19 | RichT23 | is distracted... Doc Who is on |
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| 18:28.27 | Abyssul | http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/i686/org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk3 |
| 18:28.32 | Abyssul | oops: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/i686/org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk |
| 18:28.47 | Abyssul | idk if thats a valid package or a placeholder though |
| 18:29.23 | sagi | That's the one I tried, I assume it's valid- although it's tiny (~90K) |
| 18:30.09 | Abyssul | It has barely any images and just calls the xterm and xserver apps and services |
| 18:30.43 | Abyssul | Amv7 is ~ same size |
| 18:30.50 | RichT23 | Abyssul: isnt that what its spost to do? |
| 18:31.34 | RichT23 | oh sagi even... |
| 18:31.36 | Abyssul | Yea, just expressing why the app is so small |
| 18:31.37 | RichT23 | ;) |
| 18:32.06 | RichT23 | sry i did the wrong name =) |
| 18:32.27 | sagi | Abyssul: so Preware installs the xserver/services as dependencies? |
| 18:32.35 | Abyssul | sagi, yes |
| 18:33.02 | Abyssul | xserver and xterm arnt in i686 yet. |
| 18:33.25 | Abyssul | I just posted the directions there because technically the app is in the feed and there might be support later for it |
| 18:33.38 | sagi | So maybe that's why it fails? |
| 18:33.57 | Abyssul | idk, talk to the devs about it. I just made the wiki and barely use the app :\ |
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| 18:34.38 | sagi | Abyssul: thanks |
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| 18:47.35 | RichT23 | right there we go Dr Who done |
| 18:48.04 | RichT23 | now to try work out why the veer wont connect to novacom |
| 18:48.56 | PatrickC | in dev mode? |
| 18:52.21 | RichT23 | yup |
| 18:53.28 | pcworld | RichT23: latest novacom I guess? |
| 18:53.37 | PatrickC | wasjust about to ask that :) |
| 18:53.40 | PatrickC | was just * |
| 18:55.17 | RichT23 | err i found a link on the palm site... today |
| 18:55.26 | RichT23 | let me check the version |
| 18:57.28 | RichT23 | 1.0.76 |
| 18:58.23 | RichT23 | Im currently running bumtooth 64 |
| 18:58.37 | PatrickC | doesn't have a veer so he is no help |
| 19:01.44 | RichT23 | Oh and magic |
| 19:01.51 | RichT23 | it just worked this time |
| 19:02.09 | PatrickC | lol |
| 19:03.25 | RichT23 | must of just not worked to anoy me |
| 19:03.40 | RichT23 | just need a newer version of preware now =) |
| 19:04.04 | PatrickC | :) |
| 19:04.22 | oclet | http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/09/cdc-lung-cancer-rates-drop-dramatically.html?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=pbs |
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| 19:04.31 | PatrickC | definition of preware: awesomeness |
| 19:06.12 | marinos | Hello everyone. I would really appreciate if someone could help me with the following problem of my palm pre: I bought an unlocked Palm Pre from UK (European Version, as far as I understand) to use it in Cyprus, but it does not allow me to create a Palm profile. It returns the message "âunable to write settingsâ. I visited the web site about metadoctor and also the precentral forum relevant post, but I did not understand |
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| 19:11.26 | RichT23 | cool Preware sorted... |
| 19:11.56 | RichT23 | i just remembered though, i would like a less AT&T version of webos |
| 19:12.17 | PatrickC | less at&t? |
| 19:12.19 | RichT23 | stupid apps i can not use! takeing up loads of space |
| 19:12.35 | PatrickC | those can be removed |
| 19:13.43 | RichT23 | They can oh cool, |
| 19:14.01 | RichT23 | is there an app for that? |
| 19:16.13 | PatrickC | na, you need to manually remove them afaik |
| 19:16.51 | wrea | PatrickC, what was the bluetooth binary you found? |
| 19:17.05 | PatrickC | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.08 | PatrickC | line... |
| 19:17.10 | PatrickC | lemme see |
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| 19:17.41 | RichT23 | arr i can just use the cl pkg tool to remove them then? |
| 19:17.42 | PatrickC | 5913 |
| 19:17.45 | PatrickC | on the touchpad |
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| 19:18.10 | PatrickC | RichT23: I just go into /usr/palm/applications and rm -rf them |
| 19:18.16 | hasnobrains | hello? |
| 19:18.29 | pcworld | hassomebrains: hi! |
| 19:18.38 | hasnobrains | ) |
| 19:18.39 | PatrickC | hey hasnobrains |
| 19:18.43 | PatrickC | nice nick ;) |
| 19:19.17 | pcworld | PatrickC/RichT23: why rm -rf default apps? |
| 19:19.26 | PatrickC | more space/not used |
| 19:19.36 | PatrickC | <RichT23> stupid apps i can not use! takeing up loads of space |
| 19:19.54 | hasnobrains | so, does anybody here knows how to catch screen tap??? |
| 19:20.03 | RichT23 | PatrickC: Oh joy |
| 19:20.19 | PatrickC | what? |
| 19:20.46 | RichT23 | so no pkgs for default apps how norty |
| 19:21.04 | PatrickC | they are in /usr/palm/applications? |
| 19:21.39 | hasnobrains | anybody? |
| 19:22.12 | PatrickC | this is not a dev channel |
| 19:22.15 | PatrickC | #webos for that |
| 19:23.12 | hasnobrains | :-/ |
| 19:23.35 | wrea | There is a library that it opens - /usr/lib/libPmBtOs.so |
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| 19:32.03 | RichT23 | doh the uk veer rom is only at 2.1.1 |
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| 19:48.35 | nebula | http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/ele/2590991489.html |
| 19:48.37 | nebula | whoa! |
| 19:48.51 | nebula | a palm pre that supports external hard drives ;) |
| 19:48.52 | nebula | lol |
| 19:49.04 | wrea | lol |
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| 19:51.51 | wrea | Do those really go for that much? |
| 19:52.20 | summatusmentis | yes |
| 19:52.32 | summatusmentis | pre2s on ebay, last I checked, are like $200 |
| 19:54.45 | wrea | Damn, last I looked the Pre 2's were at $150 |
| 19:54.49 | nebula | found one for 150 |
| 19:55.05 | nebula | just gotta filter out the greed |
| 19:55.17 | nebula | touchpad++ |
| 19:55.18 | RichT23 | =) |
| 19:55.58 | oclet | thats way too expensive |
| 19:55.59 | oclet | re pre2 |
| 19:57.53 | oil | pre2 is awesome though |
| 19:58.19 | wrea | Might be getting one |
| 19:59.11 | PatrickC | hopes the pre3 is as good as pre2 |
| 19:59.24 | Xuzz | PatrickC: How could it not be? |
| 19:59.31 | PatrickC | less ram? |
| 19:59.34 | Xuzz | hopes he gets his soon and is awesome. |
| 19:59.42 | pcworld | PatrickC/Xuzz: has less available RAM than Pre Plus/2 |
| 19:59.47 | PatrickC | hopes his arrives soon |
| 19:59.51 | pcworld | only about 380 MB I think |
| 20:00.07 | pcworld | and only something like 5.3GB available flash |
| 20:00.09 | PatrickC | but a 1.4GHz processor? right |
| 20:00.10 | Xuzz | Okay, less RAM. But a real screen, faster CPU, thinner, etc. |
| 20:00.18 | Xuzz | and not too tiny to UAE |
| 20:00.20 | Xuzz | Use |
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| 20:00.23 | PatrickC | anyone in here have one? |
| 20:00.45 | Xuzz | I have one waiting to be forwarded to me from the UK :< |
| 20:00.53 | PatrickC | I have one shipping soon |
| 20:01.05 | PatrickC | I'm wondering what kernels are out/speed :) |
| 20:01.21 | PatrickC | uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz: you have a pre3 yet? |
| 20:03.03 | summatusmentis | I think rwhitby has one |
| 20:04.22 | RichT23 | Oh i want a Pre3 too |
| 20:04.42 | summatusmentis | I'm gonna be happy with my veer, I think |
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| 20:05.20 | RichT23 | summatusmentis: they are very nice |
| 20:05.30 | PatrickC | too small |
| 20:05.31 | RichT23 | just got mine today |
| 20:05.43 | RichT23 | Perfect for a work phone |
| 20:05.56 | PatrickC | wait.. the pre3 really only has 5.3GB space? |
| 20:06.00 | PatrickC | lame |
| 20:09.22 | pcworld | available to the OS at least (but not sure) |
| 20:09.38 | PatrickC | I hope there's more |
| 20:10.18 | pcworld | rwhitby tweeted about it some months ago |
| 20:10.49 | pcworld | err *weeks |
| 20:13.22 | bsiegel | Question about UbuntuChroot: anyone know why creating a disk image in /media/internal would break USB connectivity, as the article hints at? |
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| 20:15.27 | pcworld | bsiegel: because it's unmounted when going into usb mode |
| 20:16.01 | pcworld | but I've heard that when you put an img in cryptofs it gets at least suspended/goes in a sleep state or whatever |
| 20:16.34 | bsiegel | ah, so maybe ideally somewhere outside of both of those locations... but you'd have to leave the root partition in rw mode for that |
| 20:17.00 | pcworld | that's no problem, but there 's too less space |
| 20:17.18 | pcworld | you can just unmount the image before going into usb mode, should work |
| 20:23.54 | DThought | can anyone tell me the factory governor setting of an pre3 ? I accidentally set it to the "pre" profile in govnah, and hat it at 100-600MHz, Userspace. Not sure what to set it back to. (ondemand 100-1.4GHz? userspace 100-1.4GHz?) |
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| 20:26.20 | Abyssul-TP | Dthought, pull the battery on the pre3. Resets the governor to default |
| 20:26.34 | Abyssul-TP | (while its on) |
| 20:27.18 | PatrickC | hey Abyssul-TP: what's up? |
| 20:27.49 | Abyssul-TP | Work and wiki creating for webos internals :-P |
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| 20:28.55 | PatrickC | lol |
| 20:29.40 | DThought | Abyssul-TP: well, yes. i could do a hard reset, too, i think... |
| 20:29.41 | DThought | *sigh* |
| 20:29.56 | Abyssul-TP | No onehasnt maee A 2.2 upgrade for pre2? Im a sad panda |
| 20:30.11 | DThought | yeah. the hardware watchdog still works *G* |
| 20:30.12 | PatrickC | not yet |
| 20:30.34 | Abyssul-TP | Regular reset wont reset the kernel settings |
| 20:31.48 | Abyssul-TP | PatrickC: u should take the webos tar and extract it into a pre2 doctor |
| 20:32.04 | PatrickC | umm.. I wonder if that would work...... |
| 20:32.15 | PatrickC | Abyssul-TP: I just might do that |
| 20:32.49 | Abyssul-TP | Ima look at the metadoctor makefile |
| 20:36.21 | DThought | okay: the default governor settings seem to be ondemandtcl - 122.88MHz..1.4016GHz , sampling 0.2 up threshold 95%, down differential 3 , do not ignore nice loads, powersave bias 0, tickle&floor window 3secs |
| 20:36.40 | PatrickC | DThought: you have a pre3? |
| 20:36.43 | Abyssul-TP | U think it would. All metadoctor does is combine the cdma firmware tar, webos tar, and carrier tar into a custom .jar |
| 20:36.59 | Abyssul-TP | Dthought, put that in the wiki or something |
| 20:37.02 | DThought | PatrickC: yeah |
| 20:37.15 | PatrickC | DThought: carrier? |
| 20:37.22 | DThought | o2 germany |
| 20:37.41 | PatrickC | usb size? |
| 20:37.45 | PatrickC | I'm getting one soon |
| 20:37.49 | PatrickC | just wondering :) |
| 20:38.06 | DThought | got it from ebay... the person who did buy it from the store did make quite some bucks... |
| 20:38.18 | Abyssul-TP | Usb size is like 5-6 gb with only 320 mb of ram o |
| 20:38.24 | DThought | 320MB? |
| 20:38.29 | DThought | oh |
| 20:38.34 | Abyssul-TP | Something small |
| 20:38.58 | PatrickC | Abyssul-TP: really? thats all they do? re: metadoctor |
| 20:39.11 | Abyssul-TP | Something how the snapdragon arch is limiting the available ram to the OS |
| 20:39.37 | Abyssul-TP | PatrickC: mostly. Look at the scripts in notepad++ |
| 20:39.37 | Jack87 | PatrickC, ya.. pre3 is a bit disappointing when it comes to specs |
| 20:40.28 | PatrickC | Abyssul-TP: NP++?? eww... |
| 20:40.40 | DThought | 5.41G media partition... 6.84G store volume group |
| 20:40.42 | DThought | hmm |
| 20:40.45 | PatrickC | Jack87: mines a AT&T |
| 20:41.20 | Jack87 | PatrickC, how did you get your hands on one of those? |
| 20:41.34 | Abyssul-TP | Or just here http://git.webos-internals.org/tools/meta-doctor/tree/scripts/meta-sprint-franken-unlocked-pre2-2.1.0 |
| 20:41.36 | PatrickC | ebay |
| 20:42.19 | Jack87 | PatrickC, link me... i want to see this |
| 20:42.28 | PatrickC | I don't have the link |
| 20:42.37 | PatrickC | parents got it, won't tell me how much/etc. |
| 20:43.05 | DThought | and the kernel reports it has 206MB+255MB=461MB total... |
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| 20:43.41 | Jack87 | PatrickC, oh... nice. well i hope its really att :) enjoy it |
| 20:43.48 | PatrickC | so do I :) |
| 20:43.55 | PatrickC | I'll post pics when it arrives :) |
| 20:44.47 | DThought | PatrickC: sounds gread |
| 20:46.22 | PatrickC | gread? |
| 20:46.48 | DThought | great. sorry |
| 20:47.37 | PatrickC | lol |
| 20:48.49 | DThought | how does that off-amount of memory appear? 461MB... |
| 20:49.22 | DThought | i assume the modem part of the cpu shares memory whith the main cpu? |
| 20:50.59 | DThought | [131075.309692] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 SEM08G 7.39 GiB |
| 20:51.51 | PatrickC | is it dualcore? |
| 20:51.54 | PatrickC | like rumored? |
| 20:52.10 | DThought | no |
| 20:52.12 | Abyssul-TP | Searching for tweets on twitter sucks. I cant find their original tweet |
| 20:52.22 | Abyssul-TP | PatrickC: hahahaha no.... |
| 20:52.47 | PatrickC | hey, one can dream :) |
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| 20:56.17 | giggles | hello |
| 20:56.48 | giggles | anybody there? |
| 20:56.57 | ka6sox | probably. |
| 20:57.26 | ka6sox | but I'm only half here... |
| 20:57.36 | Jack87 | i wish i was all there |
| 20:57.43 | giggles | hey |
| 20:58.29 | giggles | Im a memeber at the precentral forums. for about a year and a half now. really enjoy your guyes work. |
| 20:58.49 | giggles | anyways ive been going through the process of fraken preing a verizon pre 2 |
| 20:59.08 | giggles | and have ran into a bit of a roadblock that I cant seem to solve or find any info on |
| 20:59.44 | giggles | Whenever I plug the USB inti the pre2 after the swap it just shows a white battery symbol with a question mark inside of it. |
| 21:00.14 | ka6sox | hmmm |
| 21:00.22 | giggles | ive tried everything, from 3 diff batts. recovery mode, reset buttons. power. nothing. and nothing seems to be interfering with the contacts |
| 21:00.40 | ka6sox | I'd replug the flex circuit between the comm board to the main board |
| 21:01.06 | giggles | haha, where exactly is that located and what is it? |
| 21:01.23 | giggles | and do you know what the DIV wiere does, the black one that connects to the commboard. im just curious |
| 21:01.26 | Jack87 | giggles, ive ran into that before... but it was when i tried using centro battery in a pre- running webos 2.x |
| 21:02.00 | giggles | yha it seems to happen when the device things theres no battery or isnt getting power I guess. |
| 21:02.06 | Jack87 | giggles, one is your wifi/bt/cdma the other is gps |
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| 21:03.28 | Jack87 | giggles, ka6sox is talking about the only wire that connects the two boards together. make sure its connected |
| 21:03.29 | giggles | k thanks jack. well idk what the problem could be. ka whats the flex circuit? |
| 21:03.42 | Jack87 | i would suggest taking it apart and putting it back together |
| 21:04.08 | Jack87 | giggles, the modem handles the battery charging on these devices |
| 21:04.13 | giggles | I did that this morning and didnt help |
| 21:04.28 | Jack87 | and if the modem (commboard) isnt working right... than that might explain the battery question mark |
| 21:04.28 | giggles | Are you talking about the 2 ribbon cable connections |
| 21:04.48 | Jack87 | giggles, ya i think thats what he i talking about (been too long sice i did my franken pre) |
| 21:04.55 | Jack87 | pre2 that is |
| 21:05.13 | Abyssul-TP | Aye |
| 21:06.00 | Abyssul-TP | PatrickC: just curious. Are u gonna try to exchange webos.tar from 2.2 into a metadocotr .jar |
| 21:06.30 | ka6sox | giggles, I don't remember which contact is the comms one... |
| 21:06.36 | ka6sox | but its only 1 of them |
| 21:06.40 | pcworld | Abyssul-TP/PatrickC: really wouldn't try that... |
| 21:06.57 | Abyssul-TP | Pcworld, why |
| 21:07.09 | ka6sox | giggles, I would put the old comm board back in, put the battery in, and see if it boots. |
| 21:07.19 | ka6sox | becuase then its the 1 pin. |
| 21:07.25 | ka6sox | (on teh comm board) |
| 21:07.30 | giggles | well both phones boooted before hand. |
| 21:07.50 | giggles | but isnt there 2 pins we push in? |
| 21:07.50 | ka6sox | see if the battery contact pin got bent/loose/etc |
| 21:08.05 | pcworld | Abyssul-TP: because Pre 3 is completely different hardware, and if it was that easy Rod would have told that I think and made a script in meta-doctor |
| 21:08.09 | ka6sox | the actual one you connect to the battery |
| 21:08.13 | giggles | wheres the battery contact pin? or do u mean pins the 3 brongs |
| 21:08.23 | ka6sox | yes the 3 prongs |
| 21:08.36 | ka6sox | I can't remember but I think its the middle pin |
| 21:08.40 | giggles | nah they're not deformed |
| 21:08.45 | Abyssul-TP | Pcworld, rwhitby has been busy and told us to give it a shot |
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| 21:09.06 | ka6sox | okay, are they loose? |
| 21:09.19 | ka6sox | (other than the normal spring tension |
| 21:09.22 | ka6sox | ) |
| 21:09.28 | giggles | nope |
| 21:10.01 | pcworld | Abyssul-TP: ok, try it. (just a note that even webOS 2.2 only boots at 400x800 in emulator) |
| 21:10.28 | ka6sox | giggles, then I dunno other than if something on the board or connector failed during the swap. |
| 21:10.41 | Abyssul-TP | Oh yeah... Resolution problems... F that :-P |
| 21:10.44 | giggles | gah :( |
| 21:10.51 | giggles | im taking it back apart now. |
| 21:11.17 | ka6sox | giggles, thats what I would do. |
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| 21:11.24 | ka6sox | I've done like 4 of em and saw that 1X |
| 21:11.34 | ka6sox | but it went away when I pushed on the commboard |
| 21:11.45 | giggles | but what to look for I did it once already and everything seem to check out fine. |
| 21:12.13 | ka6sox | a while ago I did some testing stuff... |
| 21:12.29 | ka6sox | where I used a lab supply and had to fake out the 1W so it would boot. |
| 21:13.07 | ka6sox | but that was a pre- about 18months ago. |
| 21:13.18 | giggles | whats the 1w? |
| 21:14.33 | giggles | is it safe to test the commboards and batterys with out the phone completely assembled? |
| 21:15.00 | Abyssul-TP | Hate to tell u this but make sure the battery isnt in backwards. Doesnt hurt to tell u |
| 21:15.23 | giggles | haha i wish i put it in backwards |
| 21:15.32 | giggles | be the best solution ever. |
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| 21:16.31 | Abyssul-TP | giggles: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-tips-information-resources/227209-giant-question-mark-icon.html |
| 21:16.39 | Abyssul-TP | Read through that |
| 21:16.56 | giggles | yha already did but thanks tho |
| 21:17.33 | Abyssul-TP | I guess put them back together and see if they boot. |
| 21:17.59 | giggles | gahh,,, yay work |
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| 21:24.50 | giggles | hey the big connect the connects to the commboard |
| 21:24.54 | giggles | does it snap in place? |
| 21:25.27 | Jack87 | giggles, i think so |
| 21:25.33 | giggles | oh snap THINK i found the proble. I pray to got this was it |
| 21:25.34 | Jack87 | make sure thats on right |
| 21:25.41 | giggles | porblem* |
| 21:25.47 | giggles | problem* lol |
| 21:25.52 | Jack87 | giggles, thats the thing we kept asking you to check ;) |
| 21:26.20 | giggles | hahaha.. well im not sure. well know when I assmeble it back together. |
| 21:26.44 | giggles | is the audio insulation around the speak essential? |
| 21:26.49 | Abyssul-TP | It doesnt click but fits into place |
| 21:26.56 | giggles | mine has fell apart |
| 21:27.29 | Abyssul-TP | Like the ribbon broke or its not connected to the slot? |
| 21:27.46 | giggles | noo |
| 21:28.01 | giggles | the foam insullation around the speaker housing |
| 21:28.22 | giggles | is that essential to the phone because.. mine wont go back on like the glue has wore off |
| 21:28.32 | Abyssul-TP | Hulu blocked the touchpad again |
| 21:28.41 | Abyssul-TP | Giggles, not really |
| 21:29.06 | Jack87 | giggles, nah you dont need it. i think i took mine out |
| 21:29.30 | Abyssul-TP | Why take it out? It gives the speaker more depth |
| 21:29.52 | giggles | also is it fine if I took the pre2 speaker out the back bezel and put it in the pre one that im putting on the pre2? |
| 21:29.55 | dwc- | Abyssul-TP: blocked like how? |
| 21:29.59 | linuxjacques | Abyssul-TP: I wonder how they blocked it this time |
| 21:30.18 | Jack87 | Abyssul-TP, i knew that was going to happen as soon as the "fix" was publicised. stuppid reporters! |
| 21:30.20 | Abyssul-TP | Idk how they did it but the hulu fix doesnt work anymore |
| 21:30.38 | dwc- | Jack87: so did I... which is why I wasn't sharing my workaround :p |
| 21:31.19 | Jack87 | Abyssul-TP, maybe its user error? hehe let me try |
| 21:31.38 | Abyssul-TP | Na, theres a thread on it |
| 21:31.42 | Jack87 | oh. damn |
| 21:32.18 | Abyssul-TP | User agent? |
| 21:32.49 | dwc- | looks like my slightly more thorough change is blocked as well |
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| 21:33.44 | Jack87 | yup.. blocked |
| 21:33.49 | dwc- | time to spend more time with tcpdump again, perhaps |
| 21:33.56 | PatrickC | can you get tokens from cmd line? |
| 21:33.57 | dwc- | ... not that I've been watching hulu on the TP |
| 21:34.15 | Jack87 | dwc-, haha me either... but want to be able to if i want to |
| 21:34.58 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.58 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.58 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.58 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.58 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.59 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.01 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.03 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.05 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.07 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.09 | PatrickC | nopaste :) |
| 21:35.11 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.13 | Jack87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.15 | Jack87 | </script> |
| 21:35.19 | Abyssul-TP | Pastebin |
| 21:35.35 | dwc- | I should have saved my tcpdump last time, to see what's changed |
| 21:35.36 | PatrickC | is there a way to get device tokens from the command line? |
| 21:35.44 | Jack87 | view-source:http://www.hulu.com/watch/278979/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-thu-sep-15-2011 |
| 21:35.46 | Abyssul-TP | So player-container |
| 21:35.52 | Jack87 | PatrickC, yes |
| 21:36.08 | PatrickC | Jack87: I'm guessing documented on the wiki? |
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| 21:37.12 | Jack87 | PatrickC, try tokens --list |
| 21:37.12 | Abyssul-TP | I guess start a new hulu fix thread :-P |
| 21:37.27 | giggles | why are the keyboard tabs so hard to slide back into place on reesembly.... |
| 21:37.45 | Abyssul-TP | Giggle, not hard when u get the hang of it |
| 21:37.58 | giggles | tips? |
| 21:38.28 | PatrickC | giggles: it gets easier |
| 21:38.33 | PatrickC | tip == practice |
| 21:40.07 | Abyssul-TP | PatrickC: cp /tmp/tokens/ /media/internal/token; |
| 21:40.49 | Abyssul-TP | From http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Communication_Board_Swap |
| 21:41.38 | PatrickC | Abyssul-TP: thanks. was about to look at the wiki |
| 21:42.24 | Jack87 | PatrickC, do tokkens --list |
| 21:42.32 | Jack87 | tokens --list |
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| 21:47.42 | rwhitby | Abyssul-TP: that page has the worst way to save tokens |
| 21:47.49 | rwhitby | use the Show Properties app |
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| 21:48.12 | Abyssul-TP | Lol just searching the wiki. I thought about show prop |
| 21:48.55 | Jack87 | Abyssul-TP, http://pastebin.com/bsP8rrkD |
| 21:49.08 | Jack87 | well the question was could you do it from command line |
| 21:49.13 | Jack87 | not how do you save tokkens |
| 21:49.14 | rwhitby | fixes that page |
| 21:49.15 | Jack87 | tokens* |
| 21:49.27 | Jack87 | and the answer to that question is... |
| 21:49.30 | Abyssul-TP | rwhitby: see what i did? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Xecutah |
| 21:49.32 | Jack87 | tokens --list |
| 21:54.51 | giggles | yes, thanks jack and ka6ox is running now. |
| 21:55.03 | Jack87 | giggles, enjoy :) |
| 21:55.06 | giggles | the 2nd long connector on the comboard wasnt securely in |
| 21:55.15 | giggles | running the doctor now. |
| 21:55.26 | Abyssul-TP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:56.52 | Jack87 | Abyssul-TP, that pastebin i linked you to... hum.. what do you think? thats different |
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| 21:58.16 | PatrickC | are tokens tied to comms board or device? |
| 21:58.28 | rwhitby | tokens are stored in the flash |
| 21:58.36 | PatrickC | like I have a pre- with a non sprint comms board in it, but need the sprint tokens from it |
| 21:58.45 | PatrickC | do I need to put the sprint comms board back in? |
| 21:58.52 | PatrickC | oh, and hey rwhitby! |
| 22:00.06 | Abyssul-TP | Jack87: those are the original hulu bypass instructions |
| 22:00.18 | Abyssul-TP | Wont work since it is the same principles |
| 22:13.26 | giggles | do you think we will ever be able to update the sprint prl on pre 2's? |
| 22:13.49 | rhcp[linux] | giggles, cant you do that with CDMA workshop? |
| 22:13.51 | rhcp[linux] | or qpst? |
| 22:13.53 | rhcp[linux] | or others |
| 22:14.30 | giggles | u can? is there a link or tutorial i thought i wouldnt be done... |
| 22:14.38 | rhcp[linux] | sure you can. |
| 22:14.41 | rhcp[linux] | google it. |
| 22:14.46 | rhcp[linux] | as long as you have the PRL file |
| 22:14.50 | rhcp[linux] | you can update it. |
| 22:15.03 | giggles | but what if i dont lol... >.> |
| 22:15.11 | rhcp[linux] | There are places to get new ones. |
| 22:15.38 | giggles | but on the wiki it says itll change your phone to someone elses you have to use your file or something like that |
| 22:15.51 | rhcp[linux] | PRL? no |
| 22:15.59 | rhcp[linux] | PRL is a roaming list |
| 22:16.17 | rhcp[linux] | and its stored in the radio |
| 22:16.19 | rhcp[linux] | not on the mmc |
| 22:17.01 | giggles | ahh.. |
| 22:17.20 | giggles | thanks ill check into it |
| 22:18.46 | rwhitby | Abyssul-TP: thanks! |
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| 22:22.31 | Abyssul-TP | Rwhitby: ;-) check the info. I might have a detail or two wrong wnd its missing detailrd |
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| 22:22.40 | Abyssul-TP | Detailed descriptions* |
| 22:22.50 | rwhitby | Abyssul-TP: I've already edited it a bit, thanks. |
| 22:23.14 | Abyssul-TP | Just send articles my way if u want me to create any |
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| 23:38.08 | divStar | hey .. is there a way to double click in hp veer in the browser? |
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| 23:41.22 | trsohmers | Anyone home? |
| 23:42.15 | wrea | no |
| 23:45.04 | sethron | so, how come xterm needs permissions reset to launch from xecutah? |
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| 23:56.35 | PatrickC | pre+ is officially made. just have to switch the ESN :) |
| 23:56.51 | PatrickC | anyone who's made a sprint pre+, please PM me.. got some questions |
| 23:59.39 | sethron | PatrickC: re: http://ompldr.org/vYWRvbw you have to reset the permission on the xterm laucher |
