| 00:09.25 | dtzWill | summatusmentis: o/ :) |
| 00:10.43 | dtzWill | PuffTheMagic: i set up a number of the popular bouncers (znc/some others) and :/ idk wasn't a fan |
| 00:10.57 | dtzWill | the usage is just fundamnetally different, and I haven't been able to push myself over that :) |
| 00:11.04 | dtzWill | but also on my TODO list :) |
| 00:11.08 | PuffTheMagic | dtzWill, there is no difference |
| 00:11.19 | PuffTheMagic | you connect and you get your backlog |
| 00:11.25 | PuffTheMagic | and then u use it like normal |
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| 00:44.28 | elpollodiablo1 | If any one is interested I figured out away to stream my music using VLC to any WebOS device. |
| 00:45.28 | scoutcamper | elpollodiablo1, you should make a wiki page about it |
| 00:46.03 | elpollodiablo1 | I will once I test out to see if I can make it stream my videos as well |
| 00:46.37 | scoutcamper | :D |
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| 02:12.52 | elpollodiablo1 | anyone aware of a patch that will launch the and play a .mp4 video when you browse to it in the webbrowser? |
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| 02:26.12 | PatrickC | elpollodiablo1: I thought the video player played mp4 |
| 02:26.19 | PatrickC | ? |
| 02:27.03 | elpollodiablo1 | it does that is why I am surprised it doesn launch when I point the browser to a url for a .mp4 video |
| 02:29.27 | elpollodiablo1 | I know the .mp4 file is the correct format for the TP because I have uploaded it to my TP and it plays. just not sure why the TP doesnt launch the media player when I browse to the url of it. |
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| 02:46.48 | bnceo`tp | hmmm |
| 02:47.04 | bnceo`tp | me love wirc |
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| 02:54.23 | dwc- | dtzWill: you can get a bouncer functionality out of irssi with its proxy stuff |
| 02:55.49 | dwc- | then you can share that irssi with your devices |
| 02:59.07 | Tibfib | dtzWill: I absolutely love znc and it hasn't hurt my irc usage at all |
| 02:59.15 | Tibfib | it's just makes things awesome. |
| 02:59.22 | Tibfib | s/it's/it/ |
| 02:59.23 | Tibfib | sigh. |
| 03:04.17 | dwc- | I might like bnc's more if I didn't prefer to cli it |
| 03:04.33 | dwc- | and if I kept an autossh open for port forwarding |
| 03:17.37 | PuffTheMagic | dwc-, can use a bouncer with irssi |
| 03:17.52 | PuffTheMagic | irssi on TP sucks ass |
| 03:17.53 | PuffTheMagic | so |
| 03:17.56 | PuffTheMagic | there |
| 03:18.16 | dwc- | I use irssi on my shell |
| 03:18.23 | dwc- | but you can use irssi as a bnc |
| 03:18.27 | dwc- | and point your device at that |
| 03:18.38 | PuffTheMagic | wirc can connect to irssi proxy |
| 03:18.41 | dwc- | wirc, irssi, bitchx, whatever |
| 03:18.43 | dwc- | yes |
| 03:18.55 | scoutcamper | ZNC FTW |
| 03:19.11 | Tibfib | +1 |
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| 03:44.03 | gQuigs | does anyone know where emails are stored in webos |
| 03:44.08 | gQuigs | ? |
| 03:46.20 | PatrickC | does the TP tether with bluetooth freeTether? |
| 03:46.54 | summatusmentis | nfc |
| 03:46.59 | summatusmentis | why not just use wifi |
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| 03:56.32 | PatrickC | summatusmentis: because, if its already connected to the pre via bluetooth for sms/call fwd'ing why not do internet that way too? |
| 03:56.46 | gQuigs | /var/luna/data/emails of course :) |
| 03:57.09 | PatrickC | gQuigs: why? |
| 03:57.21 | gQuigs | I want to back up the emails |
| 03:57.30 | gQuigs | lost access to the web server |
| 03:57.36 | Tibfib | aren't they backed up on teh server---nevermind |
| 03:57.38 | rwhitby | email bodies are stored in the filecache |
| 03:59.47 | gQuigs | where is the filecache? |
| 04:00.13 | rwhitby | type "mount" and you should see it |
| 04:00.17 | gQuigs | I think I am looking at partial emails now... |
| 04:01.32 | gQuigs | any other names for it? |
| 04:03.28 | PatrickC | anyone tried to use a save/restore from a phone on the TouchPad? |
| 04:05.09 | Tibfib | lol, wut? |
| 04:05.36 | PatrickC | if I run save/restore on my phone, and put the dir on my touchpad, will it work..? |
| 04:07.40 | Tibfib | I think it depends on the app |
| 04:07.49 | Tibfib | but mostly yes iirc |
| 04:08.04 | PatrickC | ah good |
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| 04:18.05 | fprimex | hey all. installing widk and getting 'make: VBoxManage: Command not found' during 'make setup' |
| 04:18.53 | fprimex | I'm hosting on Windows, installing into an Ubuntu 11.04 VM |
| 04:19.00 | fprimex | 32 bit |
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| 04:29.56 | fprimex | ok, installed vbox server & qt libs into the ubuntu VM. I have VBoxManage now.. |
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| 05:22.11 | NuttyBunny | PuffTheMagic: TIDE, git or testing feeds? |
| 05:22.54 | PuffTheMagic | yes |
| 05:23.55 | NuttyBunny | shall I build it from git or get it from the testing feeds? |
| 05:24.14 | PuffTheMagic | yes |
| 05:25.07 | NuttyBunny | mmm.... o_O both? |
| 05:25.19 | PuffTheMagic | you could |
| 05:25.26 | PuffTheMagic | it is in testing feed |
| 05:25.30 | PuffTheMagic | build it if you want |
| 05:25.49 | NuttyBunny | Ok, thanks :) |
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| 07:02.31 | rrix | Does xecutah's xserver not support ssh x forwarding? |
| 07:03.54 | rwhitby | rrix: http://git.webos-internals.org/x11/xlauncher/tree/xecutah.sh is how it is started |
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| 07:05.44 | rrix | odd |
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| 07:46.19 | dwc- | forwarding isn't part of the x server |
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| 07:47.18 | dwc- | check that forwarding is on, that your display is set correctly, etc |
| 07:47.28 | dwc- | x cookie stuff works, etc |
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| 12:40.45 | cryptk | so when the host server got bounced you didn't re-join |
| 12:40.51 | cryptk | argh... |
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| 13:53.51 | fprimex | hey all, noticed that in xterm that ctrl on the bluetooth keyboard isn't recognized. I've got no Ctrl+c or Ctrl+[, etc. known issue? |
| 13:54.22 | fprimex | I'm getting set up to contribute, but have just been too busy with work lately |
| 13:55.03 | scoutcamper | fprimex, well known issue |
| 13:55.19 | fprimex | okie doke, thanks |
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| 14:09.26 | dtzWill | rrix: forwarding should work. i suppose i haven't tested it via xecutah for sure, but definitely a preferred way to test x server earlier on |
| 14:10.01 | dtzWill | worst case you need to add a launch option, but i don't think so. just set DISPLAY=:0.0 and ssh out (-Y or so). |
| 14:10.11 | dtzWill | lmk if that doesn't work for you :) |
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| 14:18.42 | IGNTNUNLMTD | anyone know if changes I specifically made to certain OEM AppInfo.json files (hiding from launcher) need to be reverted before an OTA update? |
| 14:20.45 | PatrickC | I run EPR before very OTA update |
| 14:20.49 | PatrickC | just to be safe |
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| 14:35.59 | elpollodiablo1 | dtzWill & rrix X forwarding works. when you ssh you need to use the -X flag and have DISPLAY set. If you are using the developer ssh setup(dropbear/Busybox version) it does not support -X so you will most likely need to use OpenSSH from optware in preware |
| 14:36.36 | hamez | Does patching the LunaSysMgr binary break any "rules"? (or is this already being done by other patches?) |
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| 15:30.53 | trsohmers | Greetings, Programs |
| 15:44.08 | NuttyBunny | trsohmers, greetings, User |
| 15:44.44 | trsohmers | And how is the grid treating you, NuttyBunny |
| 15:45.32 | NuttyBunny | Nice, too much work, so little time, but I think I'll manage it |
| 15:46.33 | trsohmers | Heh |
| 15:47.08 | trsohmers | So for some reason, Staples thought they made a mistake and gave me an EXTRA $100 discount ontop of the coupon and HP discount on my 32gb touchpad |
| 15:47.18 | halfhalo-work | nice |
| 15:47.33 | trsohmers | So i got my 32gb touchpad for $299 |
| 15:50.30 | PatrickC | wow |
| 15:50.41 | PatrickC | mine is $324 with my discount :/ |
| 15:50.45 | PatrickC | but I'm happy :) |
| 15:50.53 | NuttyBunny | trsohmers, wow, nice! |
| 15:51.19 | trsohmers | Yea, I was really surprised |
| 15:51.40 | trsohmers | Going to be presenting the Touchpad at a tablet wars linux user group meeting tonight |
| 15:51.47 | halfhalo-work | nice |
| 15:51.55 | PatrickC | awesome |
| 15:51.57 | halfhalo-work | but ubuntu on there |
| 15:52.01 | halfhalo-work | put* |
| 15:52.02 | trsohmers | That's what I'm doing now |
| 15:52.03 | PatrickC | make sure to Ubuntu chroot :) |
| 15:52.05 | PatrickC | ^ |
| 15:52.09 | PatrickC | awesome lol |
| 15:52.19 | trsohmers | Having issues with metadoctor |
| 15:52.23 | trsohmers | trying |
| 15:52.35 | trsohmers | trying to install the dependencies on OSX⦠not showing up |
| 15:52.41 | trsohmers | so going around and finding them manually |
| 15:52.42 | PatrickC | not compiling, or failing? |
| 15:52.46 | PatrickC | ah |
| 15:52.47 | trsohmers | both |
| 15:52.53 | trsohmers | Homebrew wasn't working |
| 15:52.57 | PatrickC | if it was ubuntu, I have a fix.. but not osx |
| 15:53.09 | halfhalo-work | It needs like.... make and java. not all that cmplicated |
| 15:53.14 | trsohmers | So just reinstalled macportsâ¦it wasn't working a couple of weeks ago so I uninstalled it |
| 15:53.24 | trsohmers | half halo it also needs some other stuff |
| 15:54.12 | trsohmers | Yea, macports is working |
| 15:54.32 | trsohmers | I like homebrew more though⦠gives you status of downloads and stuff |
| 15:55.00 | trsohmers | Heh, whatever gets this working |
| 15:55.39 | trsohmers | So you guys ported Xorg to the touchpad? Very impressiveâ¦been trying to get it working on Android for a couple of months |
| 15:55.58 | halfhalo-work | wow, it needs wget eh. thats a bummer |
| 15:56.23 | trsohmers | lol |
| 15:56.26 | trsohmers | wget works |
| 15:57.01 | trsohmers | I was having issues with gnutar and git-core |
| 15:58.13 | trsohmers | So I was reading about Xecutah⦠does it work well on the touchpad? |
| 15:58.40 | halfhalo-work | decently well |
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| 15:59.19 | trsohmers | I have a native install of Ubuntu working on my Xoom, but it is VERY buggy |
| 15:59.24 | trsohmers | touchscreen doesn't currently work |
| 15:59.34 | trsohmers | Haven't bothered releasing it |
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| 16:07.39 | trsohmers | How long does it usually take for you guys to charge your touchpads? |
| 16:08.02 | halfhalo-work | we talking completely dead or almost dead? |
| 16:08.29 | trsohmers | either |
| 16:08.38 | trsohmers | I started charging mine about an hour and 15 minutes ago at 3% |
| 16:08.44 | trsohmers | and it is at 15% now |
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| 16:10.13 | PatrickC | USB/TouchStone/wall? |
| 16:10.17 | halfhalo-work | if its completely dead it will only trickle charge until there is enough power to get the low level charging stuff going on the TP, and after that it will charge pretty quickly if left idle/not doing much. |
| 16:10.51 | trsohmers | Wall |
| 16:11.18 | halfhalo-work | are you restoring apps/installing apps on it? |
| 16:11.26 | PatrickC | halfhalo-work: you got a touchstone? |
| 16:11.30 | trsohmers | Nope, it is just sitting their |
| 16:11.31 | trsohmers | there* |
| 16:11.32 | trsohmers | oy |
| 16:11.53 | halfhalo-work | PatrickC: yes. |
| 16:12.10 | PatrickC | is it worth the $79? |
| 16:12.56 | scoutcamper | trsohmers, are you charging with the official palm charger? |
| 16:13.03 | halfhalo-work | trsohmers: iiinnnnteresting. should be charging faster than that. but it may be running some other stuff in the background right now |
| 16:13.16 | halfhalo-work | PatrickC: don't know, didn't pay 79 for it |
| 16:13.28 | trsohmers | Yes, the USB wall charger that came with it |
| 16:13.52 | PatrickC | halfhalo-work: free thru work? |
| 16:14.51 | halfhalo-work | no, I just know how to google. |
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| 16:15.18 | trsohmers | There was a coupon or something? |
| 16:16.12 | halfhalo-work | no, but its cheaper some places online |
| 16:18.02 | PatrickC | link? |
| 16:18.07 | PatrickC | google isn't turning up much |
| 16:19.46 | halfhalo-work | have you tried googling for touchstone. then going to google shopping. |
| 16:20.12 | PatrickC | I googled 'hp touchpad touchstone cheap' |
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| 16:22.35 | PatrickC | halfhalo-work: never mind. its cheaper on HP's site then anywhere lol |
| 16:43.17 | PatrickC_ | trsohmers: get it working? |
| 16:43.26 | trsohmers | Waiting for this to charge some more |
| 16:43.28 | trsohmers | let me check it |
| 16:43.54 | trsohmers | 36% |
| 16:44.05 | trsohmers | I plugged in my Xoom at the same time, and it is at 84% |
| 16:44.11 | PatrickC_ | get to at least 50% |
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| 16:45.24 | Lumiere | trsohmers: I usually get full charge in under 3 hrs while using it |
| 16:45.39 | trsohmers | It's been charging for two hours and I haven't been using it |
| 16:53.33 | Lumiere | are you toward the outside of wifi range? |
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| 17:04.25 | trsohmers | Yea, Lumiere |
| 17:04.33 | trsohmers | didn't realize I left wifi on |
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| 17:23.13 | trsohmers | Hey guy⦠will setting up the ubuntu chroot erase all my data? |
| 17:23.20 | trsohmers | I'm guessing since it has to partiton |
| 17:23.27 | trsohmers | partition* |
| 17:26.35 | scoutcamper | trsohmers, yes, you have to meta-doctor |
| 17:27.07 | trsohmers | I have purchased like two apps⦠I'll be able to reinstall them afterwards, correct? |
| 17:27.30 | trsohmers | I remember in the early days of Android you couldn't even do that⦠you had to contact the developer and they would have to manually send you the app⦠wicked stupid back then |
| 17:30.50 | dwc- | yes, the appcat will let you download again |
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| 17:45.11 | PatrickC | how hard is it to make a chroot? |
| 17:45.18 | PatrickC | I'm wanting to do it with this http://www.bodhilinux.com/ |
| 17:45.56 | rrix | loop mount chroot is easy, you have to either metadoctor or resize the partitions live if you want a real partition |
| 17:46.07 | rrix | , though* |
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| 17:46.12 | PatrickC | it has an ARM release too |
| 17:47.27 | PatrickC | http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/07/bodhi-linux-for-arm-alpha-1.html |
| 17:47.33 | PatrickC | ARM version instructions |
| 17:47.45 | NuttyBunny | mmm... |
| 17:47.50 | PatrickC | when I get my touchpad (between friday and monday) I'll look into it |
| 17:48.02 | PatrickC | it has "touchscreen" versions too |
| 17:48.13 | PatrickC | w/ full ubuntu package support |
| 17:48.22 | NuttyBunny | nah, I'll skip that one, I like things that work :) |
| 17:48.26 | NuttyBunny | like nothing else |
| 17:48.28 | NuttyBunny | :D |
| 17:48.30 | rrix | oh, jeff hoogland, that guy |
| 17:48.38 | NuttyBunny | wrong channel.. brb |
| 17:48.44 | rrix | That guy that wrote a nice level headed blog post about how much Fedora sucks |
| 17:48.47 | PatrickC | "If you have used Bodhi before then you may be aware that one of the profiles we offer by default is one that is optimized for touch screen devices." |
| 17:48.59 | PatrickC | so don't trust him? lol |
| 17:49.13 | rrix | He's just an ass; i've not used bodhi linux, it may be really nice |
| 17:49.46 | PatrickC | well, I was just looking because it runs on old hw, and has a "tablet ready" mode |
| 17:49.47 | trsohmers | PatrickC: It's pretty easy to make chroot images, and then partition them |
| 17:49.55 | rrix | nods |
| 17:50.13 | PatrickC | I'll get it running in a vbox first to see how it is |
| 17:50.15 | trsohmers | Just need the rootfs of the OS, and then dd it |
| 17:50.18 | rrix | PatrickC: You should definitely give it a shot and let us know how it fairs on the TP. :) |
| 17:50.19 | PatrickC | then look at a chroot |
| 17:50.27 | rrix | may try to get fedora-arm chroot set up at some point |
| 17:50.28 | PatrickC | I will, once I get my tp :) |
| 17:50.39 | trsohmers | PatrickC: You won't be able to run an ARM OS in Virtualbox⦠Virtualbox is a x86/x64 based Virtual machine |
| 17:50.40 | trsohmers | not ARM |
| 17:50.51 | rrix | There are x86 versions of bodhi |
| 17:50.55 | PatrickC | trsohmers: it has x86 as well |
| 17:51.00 | trsohmers | Ah, OK |
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| 17:51.14 | trsohmers | git-core has a TON of dependancies |
| 17:51.18 | PatrickC | yep |
| 17:51.36 | trsohmers | Been downloading and installing that for a half hour now |
| 17:51.54 | PatrickC | wow |
| 17:52.06 | trsohmers | It's downloading fast⦠but building is taking forever |
| 17:52.38 | halfhalo-work | just uses xcode to install it |
| 17:53.28 | rrix | Apparently us interns have to do compliance and ethics training at work. There goes my morning ... |
| 17:53.43 | halfhalo-work | hah |
| 17:54.26 | rrix | Oh, deadline is in december, pffft |
| 17:54.38 | rrix | I'll get right on that |
| 17:55.39 | trsohmers | halfhalo-work: What do you mean use Xcode to install it? |
| 17:55.49 | halfhalo-work | xcode comes with git |
| 17:56.06 | trsohmers | I know⦠the instructions on the wiki said to install git-core |
| 17:56.23 | trsohmers | Funny, I NEVER follow instructions, but I am pretty clueless to webOS devices |
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| 18:09.30 | NuttyBunny | proceeds to create a 10Gb ext3fs partition for the NuttyPad :D |
| 18:10.14 | trsohmers | Now to metadoctor this |
| 18:10.19 | trsohmers | Wish me luck :| |
| 18:10.36 | NuttyBunny | trsohmers: good luck :) |
| 18:11.04 | trsohmers | lol |
| 18:12.00 | trsohmers | So. Many. Dependencies |
| 18:12.49 | trsohmers | Pretty much impossible to software brick this, right? |
| 18:13.43 | PatrickC | I believe so |
| 18:13.54 | PatrickC | but I don't have a tp yet, so I'm not 100% sure |
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| 18:21.18 | halfhalo-work | its possible to brick it |
| 18:24.39 | NuttyBunny | halfhalo-work, how? killing the bootloader? :) |
| 18:25.03 | halfhalo-work | yup. |
| 18:32.18 | trsohmers | Downloading a ROM |
| 18:34.59 | ka6sox | whats a ROM? |
| 18:35.30 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: you didnt....? |
| 18:36.03 | halfhalo-work | Really Oblong Mandible. |
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| 18:46.12 | elpollodiablo1 | how do I launch local files through the web browser? I am having troubles finding this info. |
| 18:46.40 | trsohmers | OK, so I am editing the makefile of metadoctor |
| 18:46.58 | trsohmers | One of the options EXT3FS_PARTITION_SIZE |
| 18:47.10 | trsohmers | should I uncomment that for chroot install? |
| 18:50.14 | trsohmers | nevermind |
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| 18:56.40 | trsohmers | OK need some help.. |
| 18:56.45 | trsohmers | I just started the webOS doctor |
| 18:56.56 | trsohmers | Should I have the device on when doing it or what? |
| 18:57.28 | trsohmers | And should anything be on the touchpad's screen? |
| 18:58.02 | trsohmers | ? |
| 18:58.51 | trsohmers | It hasn't rebooted or anything |
| 18:59.16 | elpollodiablo1 | yes have the device on and it should put some kind of warning screen up I believe |
| 19:03.01 | ziplock503 | I've never done it to touchpad... put with my phones I keep off till doctor ask me to plug them in |
| 19:03.19 | ziplock503 | when you plug them in they turn on |
| 19:03.24 | trsohmers | No warning screen came on |
| 19:03.26 | trsohmers | or anything |
| 19:03.30 | trsohmers | I can still use it |
| 19:03.47 | elpollodiablo1 | did the Dr actually start? |
| 19:03.49 | trsohmers | OK webos doctor just said could not reset my device |
| 19:03.50 | trsohmers | Yea |
| 19:03.59 | trsohmers | It was starting and the loading bar thing was there |
| 19:04.29 | ziplock503 | de mode? |
| 19:04.32 | ziplock503 | dev |
| 19:04.32 | trsohmers | Any ideas? |
| 19:04.33 | trsohmers | Yea |
| 19:04.42 | trsohmers | WEll I think so |
| 19:04.49 | trsohmers | I have preware installed and everything |
| 19:07.01 | elpollodiablo1 | are you running the dr from command line? to see if there are any other errors |
| 19:07.11 | trsohmers | No I am not |
| 19:07.12 | trsohmers | I could start it |
| 19:07.18 | trsohmers | just java -jar <filename> |
| 19:07.19 | trsohmers | right? |
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| 19:07.27 | PatrickC | yeah |
| 19:08.07 | trsohmers | Do I have to like restart devmode or something? |
| 19:08.21 | trsohmers | like does it revert back after I reboot the device? |
| 19:08.42 | ziplock503 | no |
| 19:08.45 | PatrickC | can I sum up what happened/happening? |
| 19:08.57 | PatrickC | I'm trying to do like 5 things at once :) |
| 19:09.24 | trsohmers | ok ill run it from the command line then |
| 19:09.30 | PatrickC | trsohmers: recovery mode is what you should be in for a doctor |
| 19:09.39 | trsohmers | how do I go into recovery mode? |
| 19:09.51 | PatrickC | in the touchpad... hrmm.. 1 second |
| 19:09.55 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: we need u! |
| 19:10.17 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny just did it, so.. :) |
| 19:10.35 | PatrickC | if its the same as the phone, power off, and hold volume up when turning on |
| 19:11.00 | NuttyBunny | hold volume up while connecting usb cable |
| 19:11.03 | ziplock503 | as you plug in usb |
| 19:11.17 | NuttyBunny | or novaterm at any time while it's on and type "tellbootie recover" |
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| 19:12.24 | trsohmers | uhg |
| 19:12.32 | trsohmers | now novaterm isn't working |
| 19:12.35 | elpollodiablo1 | I thought the dr put you into recovery mode on its own? |
| 19:13.02 | PatrickC | elpollodiablo1: it does |
| 19:13.09 | NuttyBunny | elpollodiablo1, yep, but this is an alternate mode |
| 19:13.19 | PatrickC | but forcing it into recovery mode can sometimes be better |
| 19:13.30 | NuttyBunny | brb |
| 19:13.33 | elpollodiablo1 | just making sure I wasnt going crazy |
| 19:13.43 | PatrickC | lol |
| 19:13.44 | trsohmers | Now I feel like a moron |
| 19:13.53 | PatrickC | why? |
| 19:13.54 | trsohmers | keep getting unable to find device |
| 19:13.55 | ziplock503 | no worries |
| 19:14.00 | trsohmers | when trying to run novaterm |
| 19:14.09 | ziplock503 | reinstall nova? |
| 19:14.14 | PatrickC | yeah |
| 19:14.18 | ziplock503 | if its like the phone |
| 19:14.18 | PatrickC | maybe that'll fix it? |
| 19:14.20 | trsohmers | It was working fine yesterday |
| 19:15.05 | ziplock503 | why are you Dr'ing it ? if you don't mind |
| 19:15.10 | trsohmers | Now it's working |
| 19:15.19 | ziplock503 | woot |
| 19:15.21 | trsohmers | Dr'ing it to chroot ubuntu |
| 19:15.23 | PatrickC | cool |
| 19:15.30 | ziplock503 | noice |
| 19:15.33 | PatrickC | is gonna do it w/o doctoring :) |
| 19:15.44 | trsohmers | Now it's working :D |
| 19:15.59 | PatrickC | awesome! |
| 19:17.08 | trsohmers | And it's doctoring |
| 19:17.26 | ziplock503 | what fixed it? reinsyall nova? |
| 19:17.37 | ziplock503 | reinstall |
| 19:17.49 | trsohmers | Nope |
| 19:18.35 | trsohmers | used the stop then start scripts |
| 19:18.42 | ziplock503 | ahh |
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| 19:24.26 | trsohmers | Complete |
| 19:24.43 | trsohmers | Yay Tux :D |
| 19:25.59 | PatrickC | awesome! |
| 19:30.46 | trsohmers | and it's restoring data⦠so glad I didn't brick it |
| 19:30.46 | trsohmers | haha |
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| 19:31.10 | PatrickC | lol |
| 19:31.27 | PatrickC | hmm.. I wonder if I can use the debian chroot instructions to make a bodhi chroot? |
| 19:31.48 | trsohmers | Chroot is wicked easy |
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| 19:31.58 | PatrickC | really? |
| 19:32.00 | trsohmers | just get the rootfs of the arm version of it |
| 19:32.00 | PatrickC | I hope so |
| 19:32.04 | trsohmers | tar it |
| 19:32.06 | PatrickC | easy |
| 19:32.11 | trsohmers | tar it |
| 19:32.16 | trsohmers | then use dd to make a .img of it |
| 19:32.34 | trsohmers | then use dd to partition the partition with the img |
| 19:34.57 | PatrickC | ugh.. no arm download |
| 19:35.09 | PatrickC | though there is an arm version... |
| 19:35.53 | trsohmers | â¦.? |
| 19:36.10 | elpollodiablo1 | isnt bodhi just ubuntu with enlightenment Desktop? |
| 19:36.43 | PatrickC | elpollodiablo1: Bodhi is a linux with table designed interface |
| 19:36.50 | PatrickC | and it runs with minimal resources |
| 19:37.30 | PatrickC | webos would do this, " If you have another piece of ARM hardware you are interested in getting Bodhi Linux running on, first install Debian Squeeze or Wheezy and then add the following line to your sources.list" |
| 19:37.31 | PatrickC | right? |
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| 19:38.48 | PatrickC | instructions here for anyone who wants to try it now. http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/07/bodhi-linux-for-arm-alpha-1.html |
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| 19:43.09 | m0ngr31 | hey does anyone know if meta-doctor will be updated to use the new verizon 2.1 doctor for the pre2 so that the pre2 will get the new modem drivers? |
| 19:43.20 | m0ngr31 | *modem firmware |
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| 19:44.45 | trsohmers | Installing ubuntu chroot now.. |
| 19:46.29 | trsohmers | Uh WTF |
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| 19:47.03 | trsohmers | Now nothing is working... |
| 19:47.49 | trsohmers | It started to reinstall my apps, they finished downloading and the progress bars were completed and then it just froze up |
| 19:47.56 | PatrickC | do you have XTerm/Xecutah/XServer? |
| 19:48.06 | PatrickC | oh weird |
| 19:48.25 | trsohmers | I was trying to install them, but then it was saying that there was an application install already in progress |
| 19:48.29 | trsohmers | and then that happened |
| 19:49.08 | PatrickC | reboot? |
| 19:50.32 | trsohmers | yea |
| 19:50.37 | trsohmers | and it is trying to restore my applications again |
| 19:51.09 | trsohmers | is there any way of preventing it from restoring applications? |
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| 19:53.43 | PatrickC | brb |
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| 19:56.21 | PatrickC | &j wirc |
| 19:56.46 | PatrickC | oops |
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| 20:03.07 | trsohmers | Oy |
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| 20:03.58 | PatrickC | trsohmers: what happened? |
| 20:04.44 | trsohmers | It's working |
| 20:04.57 | trsohmers | Took 10 minutes to install the Ubuntu |
| 20:04.58 | trsohmers | well |
| 20:05.01 | trsohmers | I g2g |
| 20:05.03 | trsohmers | be back later |
| 20:05.05 | ziplock503 | awesome |
| 20:52.59 | NuttyBunny | well, the ubuntu chroot thingy was easy |
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| 21:23.28 | trsohmers | Greetings |
| 21:23.31 | trsohmers | Having some issues with the ubuntu chroot.... |
| 21:24.01 | scoutcamper | trsohmers, ask away |
| 21:24.13 | trsohmers | OK |
| 21:24.15 | trsohmers | so |
| 21:24.15 | ziplock503 | wb |
| 21:24.48 | trsohmers | I open up Zecutah |
| 21:24.51 | trsohmers | Oy |
| 21:24.58 | trsohmers | Xecutah |
| 21:25.05 | trsohmers | I press Start XServer |
| 21:25.11 | trsohmers | It opens up a new card |
| 21:25.18 | trsohmers | I go back to the Xecutah card |
| 21:25.28 | trsohmers | Press Start Ubuntu Chroot |
| 21:25.36 | trsohmers | And I get a service error |
| 21:25.58 | scoutcamper | trsohmers, Webos version? 3.0.2? does xterm work? |
| 21:25.59 | trsohmers | Unable to run command: /sbin/initctl start org.webosinternals.ubuntu-natty-chroot 2>&1 |
| 21:26.03 | trsohmers | Xterm works |
| 21:26.07 | trsohmers | and I am running 3.0.2 |
| 21:26.15 | scoutcamper | interesting |
| 21:26.59 | trsohmers | initctl: (01857/66099497) Unknown job: org.webosinternals.ubuntu-natty-chroot |
| 21:27.17 | scoutcamper | try to start it from xterm? |
| 21:27.31 | dtzWill | trsohmers: try rebooting, fixed it for me when i had that |
| 21:27.44 | trsohmers | OK rebooting |
| 21:27.45 | dtzWill | but in my case i assumed it was b/c i intentionally messed with the upstart stuff |
| 21:28.09 | scoutcamper | cd /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.ubuntu-natty-chroot/bin |
| 21:28.12 | dtzWill | not sure what non-causing-problems path causes your issue; shouldn't be a problem i didn't think. |
| 21:28.14 | scoutcamper | then ./start-xterm.sh |
| 21:28.17 | dtzWill | bbl |
| 21:28.30 | trsohmers | ok thanks |
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| 21:29.43 | trsohmers | Greetings PatrickC |
| 21:29.51 | PatrickC | hey trsohmers |
| 21:30.07 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: ping |
| 21:30.58 | PatrickC | trsohmers: get chroot working? |
| 21:31.44 | trsohmers | trying to |
| 21:33.15 | trsohmers | No dice on reooting |
| 21:33.16 | trsohmers | go |
| 21:33.24 | trsohmers | going to try to manually start it |
| 21:35.06 | trsohmers | Does term and such only support portrait viewing? |
| 21:36.01 | dtzWill | trsohmers: on the phone, we hardcode to portrait yes |
| 21:36.11 | dtzWill | trsohmers: on the TP we use the accel to guess orientation and use that |
| 21:36.30 | dtzWill | (there's no known way to query the "actual" orientation (the current orientation luna is showing everything in) AFAIK) |
| 21:36.41 | dtzWill | so if the tablet is flat you can have some unexpected behavior :) |
| 21:36.59 | linuxjacques | :-) |
| 21:37.02 | trsohmers | lol |
| 21:38.45 | trsohmers | So ubuntu chroot still isn't working |
| 21:39.15 | NuttyBunny | mmm... I haven't had luck here either |
| 21:43.34 | trsohmers | scoutcamper|away: dtzWill neither of those helped |
| 21:43.52 | trsohmers | Wait |
| 21:44.07 | trsohmers | got an error |
| 21:44.22 | trsohmers | Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C |
| 21:44.33 | trsohmers | Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default |
| 21:44.37 | trsohmers | Failed to open input method |
| 21:47.58 | trsohmers | Anoyne? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
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| 21:51.00 | trsohmers_ | Uhg |
| 21:56.40 | NuttyBunny | weird, I run the chroot, it opens an empty window in the xserver and then closes (the white window) :( |
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| 21:57.59 | trsohmers | Think I found a fix |
| 21:58.06 | trsohmers | give me a couple of minutes |
| 22:01.55 | trsohmers | Think I screwed this entire thing up |
| 22:02.29 | trsohmers | so is the Ubuntu chroot application in preware supposed to format the ext3fs partition? |
| 22:03.39 | trsohmers | Anyone? |
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| 22:14.29 | trsohmers | Scoutcamper, you there? |
| 22:14.40 | scoutcamper | yes |
| 22:14.48 | scoutcamper | idk if it formats or not |
| 22:15.31 | davegarbs | just format it? |
| 22:15.39 | davegarbs | mkfs.ext3 |
| 22:20.36 | NuttyBunny | but if I have optware as well in the ext3fs partition? |
| 22:22.22 | scoutcamper | rm -rf /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/ |
| 22:23.01 | davegarbs | there are still no modifier keys with the chroot, correct? |
| 22:23.14 | davegarbs | trying to figure out if there is any point to installing ubuntu on it |
| 22:26.48 | scoutcamper | correct, but the chroot is still win |
| 22:28.19 | davegarbs | not without those keys :( |
| 22:28.54 | davegarbs | at least not if you're a linux admin that relies on a terminal |
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| 22:44.37 | rwhitby | davegarbs: please make your request known to the HP keyboard team. |
| 22:45.02 | rwhitby | your other option is to run xvkbd or matchbox-keyboard in the chroot |
| 22:47.18 | trsohmers | back |
| 22:48.03 | linuxjacques | rwhitby: how can I contact the HP keyboard team? |
| 22:48.15 | trsohmers | OK, here is the warnings I am getting |
| 22:48.23 | trsohmers | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.24 | trsohmers | Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default |
| 22:48.24 | trsohmers | Failed to open input method |
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| 22:48.58 | linuxjacques | the last is the killer (probably) |
| 22:49.11 | linuxjacques | the other two are almost normal |
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| 22:50.19 | rwhitby | linuxjacques: dunno, through the normal support channels or devrel team I guess? |
| 22:50.46 | rwhitby | linuxjacques: or through a groundswell of 10,000 twitter followers? |
| 22:50.52 | linuxjacques | I really wanna know what the palm guy meant when he said "we do some of those now" |
| 22:50.57 | linuxjacques | at the dev day |
| 22:51.02 | rwhitby | brush off |
| 22:51.18 | linuxjacques | :-( that's what I was afraid of |
| 22:51.22 | halfhalo-work | which palm guy was it? |
| 22:51.32 | linuxjacques | I didn't recognize him |
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| 22:51.41 | trsohmers_ | oy |
| 22:51.43 | linuxjacques | and I'm terrible with names anyway |
| 22:51.46 | trsohmers_ | MIT's network is horrible |
| 22:53.21 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 22:54.16 | trsohmers | crap |
| 22:54.50 | trsohmers | It seems everything I do⦠I et the error unable to run command because it can not mkdir on /media/ext3fs/ |
| 22:57.48 | linuxjacques | trsohmers: you have the ext3fs partition mounted on /media/ext3fs/ ? |
| 22:57.52 | trsohmers | yes |
| 22:58.10 | trsohmers | and there is a ubuntu-natty-chroot there |
| 22:58.15 | trsohmers | when I run |
| 22:58.35 | trsohmers | but when I run ./chroot-wrapper |
| 22:58.40 | trsohmers | I get multiple errors |
| 22:59.04 | trsohmers | cp: can't create '/media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/etc/resolv.conf': No such file or directory |
| 22:59.04 | trsohmers | mount: mounting /dev on /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/dev failed: No such file or directory |
| 22:59.05 | trsohmers | mount: mounting none on /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/dev/pts failed: No such file or directory |
| 22:59.05 | trsohmers | mount: mounting /tmp on /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/tmp failed: No such file or directory |
| 22:59.05 | trsohmers | chroot: can't execute '/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 23:00.59 | NuttyBunny | trsohmers, there's something odd there, it isn't uncompressing what it should, I just have a /usr directory in the chtoor |
| 23:01.01 | NuttyBunny | chroot |
| 23:01.09 | trsohmers | Yea I know |
| 23:01.18 | trsohmers | I think I am going to manually extract the .tgz |
| 23:01.24 | trsohmers | and then move it |
| 23:03.25 | tmzt | missign libraries usually |
| 23:04.26 | crimsonredmk | one of these days, gonna put archlinux on mine. |
| 23:05.18 | crimsonredmk | right now i'm playing around with enyo too much, might make a bus tracker for my uni to practice |
| 23:06.01 | trsohmers | manually doing it |
| 23:06.32 | trsohmers | Found the issue |
| 23:06.33 | trsohmers | tar: ./var/lib/apt/lists/ports.ubuntu.com_ubuntu-ports_dists_natty_universe_binary-armel_Packages: Wrote only 512 of 10240 bytes |
| 23:06.59 | trsohmers | No idea why it is only writing that much... |
| 23:08.15 | linuxjacques | weird. fs isn't full? |
| 23:09.17 | trsohmers | yea |
| 23:10.13 | trsohmers | My guess is that for some reason it thinks that /media/ext3fs is full |
| 23:10.38 | NuttyBunny | what size is it? |
| 23:11.38 | trsohmers | cd /media/cryptofs |
| 23:11.38 | trsohmers | dd if=/dev/zero of=ubuntu.img bs=1024 count=1048576 |
| 23:11.38 | trsohmers | mkfs.ext3 -F -b 1024 ubuntu.img 1048576 |
| 23:11.42 | trsohmers | that's what I set it up as |
| 23:11.47 | trsohmers | oh |
| 23:16.00 | trsohmers | well when I metadoctored, I uncommented the extfs 2gb |
| 23:16.20 | trsohmers | so |
| 23:16.20 | trsohmers | that should have been created |
| 23:16.46 | linuxjacques | it's created, but you still have to put it into /etc/fstab manually |
| 23:17.43 | linuxjacques | well, maybe that's only if you want it mounted under /opt |
| 23:17.51 | linuxjacques | don't have my tp with me |
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| 23:21.44 | trsohmers | what should I run? |
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| 23:31.30 | destinal | PuffTheMagic: redoctoring my pre that has the data service issue failed |
| 23:31.31 | destinal | http://pastebin.com/GMspe3EM |
| 23:31.37 | destinal | err -1 "Error Updating Modem PRI/PRL!!!" |
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| 23:35.37 | linuxjacques | ouch |
| 23:36.08 | PuffTheMagic | destinal, get a pre2 |
| 23:36.35 | destinal | PuffTheMagic, :) |
| 23:36.42 | PuffTheMagic | or a pixi |
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| 23:38.03 | destinal | PuffTheMagic, it doctored but obviously can't sign into profile with no data :-/ |
| 23:39.44 | destinal | will call sprint but yeah I'll proably move my gsm pre2 I imagine (of course for that I need a good comm board, since this one probably isn't) |
| 23:40.28 | PuffTheMagic | destinal-(totally_awesome_nick_completion_separator)- lame |
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| 23:41.06 | destinal | PuffTheMagic: lol totally awesome nick completion seperator? |
| 23:41.25 | destinal | and I thought my XChat using comma by default was bad :) |
| 23:41.52 | PuffTheMagic | destinal-(totally_awesome_nick_completion_separator)- thisis customnotdefault |
| 23:42.04 | PuffTheMagic | I alsays se |
| 23:42.17 | PuffTheMagic | I always seem to miss the spacebar |
| 23:42.26 | destinal | PuffTheMagic: :) cool, and fixed my xchat now that I noticed that |
| 23:43.05 | PuffTheMagic | destinal: back to normal |
| 23:55.39 | destinal | PuffTheMagic: devicetool has it useable again as a phone at least :-/ |
| 23:56.43 | PuffTheMagic | devicetool? |