| 00:01.19 | elpollodiabo1 | mplayer doesnt like ubuntu chroot |
| 00:03.06 | elpollodiabo1 | it freezes then reboots the phone |
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| 00:36.04 | conradev | With meta-doctor, how big can you make the optional ext3 partition? |
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| 00:49.50 | Loudergood | how big do you want it? |
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| 01:04.55 | bluen | hello? Got LibreOffice working wondering if anyone is around to chat (I also installed chromium browser and icewm) |
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| 01:12.23 | bluen | hey scoutcamper, i got libre office to work, i also installed chromium browser and icewm. I then tossed the card. How do I get these programs back? |
| 01:13.10 | scoutcamper | use xecutah to restart the x-server and chroot |
| 01:13.43 | bluen | It gives me root@HPtouchPad:/# |
| 01:14.38 | scoutcamper | u have to manually start icewm from the commandline |
| 01:14.56 | scoutcamper | i dont use icewm so i dont know the command, but google does |
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| 01:19.22 | hlbice | anyone is here? |
| 01:20.09 | scoutcamper | no one but us birds lol |
| 01:59.27 | Puffy_tp | my damn email app on the to isnbroken |
| 01:59.42 | Puffy_tp | it wont load any documents |
| 01:59.54 | Puffy_tp | it sas an error occured |
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| 02:36.35 | Abyssul | anyone familiar with openssh? specifically with winscp |
| 02:38.10 | dwc- | winscp isn't part of openssh, but go ahead |
| 02:38.54 | Abyssul | You can use openssh to connect winscp to the pre over wifi though? |
| 02:39.01 | dwc- | yes |
| 02:40.25 | Abyssul | winscp reports authentication failed, server refused our key. I've refollowed the steps 3 times and even deleted old keys that I made through the webos method. |
| 02:40.56 | Abyssul | generated the keys through webos, make the private key with that id_rsa with puttygen |
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| 02:41.40 | dwc- | if you generated the keys on your device, try ssh'ing into localhost with it |
| 02:42.08 | dwc- | (from the device) |
| 02:42.53 | dwc- | also, which instructions are you following |
| 02:43.02 | Abyssul | I can use novaterm to get into commandline |
| 02:43.11 | Abyssul | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH |
| 02:43.14 | dwc- | you can also try grep sshd /var/log/messages and see if there's anything reported there as to why they're being refused |
| 02:43.29 | Abyssul | winscp has a logging function. I can use that |
| 02:43.39 | dwc- | use both |
| 02:44.02 | dwc- | they'll report different things |
| 02:45.08 | Abyssul | http://pastebin.com/v4Bsm6fq |
| 02:45.16 | dwc- | also, make sure that wc -l on the authorized_keys returns only 1 for each key |
| 02:45.19 | Abyssul | that is winscp |
| 02:45.47 | dwc- | also... |
| 02:45.47 | dwc- | # |
| 02:45.48 | dwc- | . 2011-07-19 22:43:47.149 Server version: SSH-2.0-dropbear_0.52 |
| 02:45.58 | dwc- | suggests that you're running dropbear, not openssh's sshd |
| 02:46.11 | Abyssul | Let me pull up preware |
| 02:47.09 | dwc- | but the authorized_keys format should be similar for either |
| 02:47.45 | Abyssul | I have dropbear and openssh installed along with openssl |
| 02:47.51 | dwc- | if there's nothing else in the logs for dropbear, make sure your authorized_keys file is one line, for the one key (no word wrapping) |
| 02:47.51 | Abyssul | (via preware) |
| 02:48.03 | dwc- | I'm not too familiar with dropbear |
| 02:48.44 | Abyssul | Im going to uninstall and reinstall openssh and remove dropbear, restart pre then start all over |
| 02:49.14 | bnceo | alrighty. Loading some music and off to bed. |
| 02:49.20 | bnceo | Peru on Thursday. w00t w00t |
| 02:49.24 | dwc- | bbl |
| 02:51.19 | rwhitby | Abyssul: if you updated you might have been hit by the cryptofs bug. uninstall all optware packages, reboot, then reinstal |
| 02:52.00 | Abyssul | alright |
| 02:54.48 | Abyssul | Figured this installation wouldn't take by 5 minutes, not 2 hours |
| 02:55.54 | rwhitby | the cryptofs bug is nasty |
| 02:56.20 | Abyssul | So is the media indexer bug |
| 03:02.11 | dtzWill | cryptofs bug? |
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| 03:05.43 | dtzWill | the hell i can't install an updated xserver package? nonsense about configurator or somethig |
| 03:05.44 | dtzWill | booooo |
| 03:06.08 | PatrickC | uhoh |
| 03:06.31 | PatrickC | man.. I really don't want to doctor... |
| 03:06.54 | PatrickC | wonders why he didn't make the meta-doctor have ext3fs today... |
| 03:13.46 | dtzWill | okay figured it out. |
| 03:13.57 | dtzWill | apparently you cannot simply use palm-install to update a package that's depended on by another |
| 03:14.18 | dtzWill | annoying but at least i can make progress now.... |
| 03:15.18 | dtzWill | hp movie store update?! |
| 03:15.32 | PatrickC | and kindle |
| 03:15.42 | dtzWill | man i'm outta the loop |
| 03:15.54 | PatrickC | has kindle on his pre2 |
| 03:16.00 | PatrickC | doesn't look right though |
| 03:17.55 | Abyssul | I thought kindle was TP only |
| 03:18.59 | PatrickC | it is |
| 03:19.05 | PatrickC | Impostah gets around that |
| 03:20.48 | Abyssul | Hmm... does it work as intended or is it formatted weirdly? |
| 03:20.54 | Abyssul | whats the appid |
| 03:21.00 | PatrickC | formatted weirdly |
| 03:21.05 | PatrickC | com.palm.app.kindle iirc |
| 03:21.15 | PatrickC | you *need* enyo installed for it to work properly |
| 03:21.24 | Abyssul | 2.1 here on my pre- |
| 03:21.46 | PatrickC | enyo is not installed unless you installed it manually |
| 03:21.50 | Abyssul | Still waiting on that dev program before buying a TP |
| 03:21.56 | Abyssul | Oh well, I dont need kindle |
| 03:22.51 | Abyssul | Well... I give up. OpenSSH refuses to work |
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| 03:26.58 | Abyssul | did a grep for sshd and got that the server is listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22, that doesn't sound right |
| 03:28.30 | rwhitby | that is correct |
| 03:29.44 | Abyssul | wait so it is supposed to listen on that address or I am correct in that it is wrong? lol |
| 03:39.32 | Abyssul | finally! |
| 03:39.44 | Abyssul | *cries* |
| 03:41.44 | rwhitby | Abyssul: 0.0.0.0 means any address |
| 03:41.55 | Abyssul | TIL |
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| 04:08.07 | yipper | Hello - I saw a twitpic of LibreOffice running on a Touchpad...excellent - was wondering if anyone has plans to make the binary available ? |
| 04:08.55 | yipper | or if not is there any special build instructions available anywhere? |
| 04:09.34 | PatrickC | are you talking about ubuntu itself? |
| 04:09.39 | PatrickC | or LebreOffice? |
| 04:10.01 | dwc- | libreoffice was running inside an ubuntu installation running in a chroot on the touchpad |
| 04:10.13 | yipper | PatrickC: ahh I see... |
| 04:10.22 | yipper | sorry - that is dwc.... ahhh I see |
| 04:10.48 | PatrickC | yep.. |
| 04:10.51 | PatrickC | night all |
| 04:11.22 | dwc- | once you havr your chroot, you can install whatever |
| 04:12.36 | yipper | dwc-: alright - thanks, I was just caught by the application reference - I help out with LibreOffice and thought if you (someone) had ported it to WebOS 3, that was kind of a big deal... |
| 04:13.18 | dwc- | yea, that would be pretty cool |
| 04:13.22 | yipper | which is not to say that running Ubuntu on the Touchpad (or anything else) isn't now that I thinik of it actually |
| 04:14.16 | yipper | dwc-: It wold be - any thoughts on just how large a task that might be - I know nothing of the WebOS platform , really.. |
| 04:15.06 | rwhitby-pre | yipper: yes, it's a ubuntu chroot rendering on Xsdl in a webOS card |
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| 04:16.02 | Abyssul | Futher proof that Sprint isn't carrying WebOS products soon, their product portfolio PPT doesn't show HP/Palm |
| 04:16.23 | Abyssul | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/07/sprint-fared-adib.jpg |
| 04:16.33 | yipper | rwhitby-pre: thanks for the details |
| 04:19.59 | yipper | rwhitby: I just asked dwc, if he had any thought on how much effort would be invlolved in working a port of LibreOffice to WebOS 3 as a 'native app' - any idea on that? |
| 04:20.27 | rwhitby | would need an SDL backend |
| 04:22.24 | rwhitby | seems like that would be a fair amount of work, unless there is something in there already for that |
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| 04:23.51 | yipper | I don;t know the answer - not even sure I know how to ask the question to be honest.. |
| 04:24.17 | yipper | but perhaps the right folks to ask about it |
| 04:25.06 | rwhitby | we saw the shortest path as getting an X server running |
| 04:26.06 | yipper | right - |
| 04:26.20 | yipper | that was they needed for a long time on Mac with OO.o |
| 04:26.58 | yipper | but I thought the LibreOffice guys did more work on factoring out the need for X on Mac so maybe someting is in place to work on webOS...but I'm talking out the top of my hat..perhaps |
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| 04:27.47 | rwhitby | yeah, maybe there is an API layer there which can be mapped to SDL |
| 04:31.00 | yipper | I don't have a Toucpad yet...was just now looking at the SDK/PDK downlaod page... I have Win and Linux boxes so I take it I wold need to work under Windows and use VS compiler to pay with this...yes? |
| 04:31.33 | yipper | play with this of course... we only pay with our souls in FOSS...*smile* |
| 04:32.22 | rwhitby | yipper: WebOS Internals does all it's development in OSX & Linux |
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| 04:35.28 | yipper | rwhitby: alright - I don't have access to OSX, but that wouldn't be a draw back then...thanks |
| 04:37.35 | yipper | rwhitby: One more question if you don't mind - have you heard of any ODF tools (i.e. ODF Toolkit) under WebOS 3 ? Thanks |
| 04:37.50 | rwhitby | I haven't. |
| 04:38.50 | yipper | That particular is Java - is that a pretty striaght forward prospect on the Touchpad.. does the SDK/PDF include an emulator that I could test such libraries on? |
| 04:39.13 | scoutcamper | yep |
| 04:39.26 | yipper | Then I think I know where to start... |
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| 04:41.47 | yipper | *chuckline*... i was thinking that I could start by trying to talk others into working on it with me...we are looking for ideas for some upcoming hackfests...I think a day of checking out some ODF libraries on WebOS would be a great one.. |
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| 04:52.36 | yipper | alright - thanks for the info... adios, for now, amigos |
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| 06:02.10 | glazedfaith | There we go |
| 06:02.14 | glazedfaith | Frankenpre question |
| 06:02.16 | glazedfaith | any takers? |
| 06:02.49 | rwhitby | ~ask |
| 06:02.49 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 06:03.06 | Error454 | Are there some dark secrets to writing patches that anyone can point me towards? Imagine a source file with 3 lines of code and then imagine that 3 authors want to write unique patches for that file. Any choices other than create a monolithic patch? |
| 06:03.40 | dwc- | not really, no. |
| 06:03.50 | rwhitby | Error454: use tweaks to make the patch configurable |
| 06:04.00 | glazedfaith | I have just come upon a Verizon Pre Plus, I have a Sprint Pre. I've gotten the tokens and such. Do I have to bake them into every meta-doctor, or do I just have to do it the first time I doctor the new device? |
| 06:04.09 | dwc- | if it's just 3 lines, there's only so many things you can do to it, and if they're all unique sorts of changes, you're just kinda screwed |
| 06:04.14 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: just once. |
| 06:04.27 | glazedfaith | and after that, I can doctor to my heart's content with no fears? |
| 06:04.38 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: yep, it's effectively a new kind of device then |
| 06:04.51 | rwhitby | dwc-: hence tweaks configuration of what it does |
| 06:05.23 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: Would you recommend staying with the 1.4.5, or going ahead with the 2.1? I've been using the 2.1 so long on my pre, I can't remember if there were really that many compelling differences |
| 06:05.24 | dwc- | imo, then those would be similar changes, not unique patches, really |
| 06:05.38 | Error454 | rwhitby: But even with tweaks, you need to put the code to handle the tweaks in there somewhere. Some of these files have so many patches, we're just out of space. |
| 06:05.45 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: also, should I go to 1.4.5 first to get the PRL update, and then go to 2.1? |
| 06:05.58 | rwhitby | Error454: the tweaks version superceded the individual patches |
| 06:06.05 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: you should |
| 06:06.51 | dwc- | but if two separate patch writers are writing tweaks-enhanced patches for similar areas of a single file, there still can be conflicts if they are modifying neighboring parts |
| 06:07.43 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: I've read stories of people replacing their pre's with other pre's and then sprint charges them the new 10$ data charge because it's a new phone. Could you also swap out the old comm board to fool sprint into thinking it's the same phone across multiple devices? |
| 06:08.11 | dwc- | you can live more dangerously, if you are sure that the lines being changed are unique to the file and remove lines of context around the diff... that'll make it apply cleaner, but has some dangers of mis-patching |
| 06:08.18 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: yes |
| 06:08.22 | Error454 | Hmm, so I suppose we could try and replace some of the smaller patches with a big tweaks patch which would open things up |
| 06:08.40 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: that's exactly how a sprint Pre 2 works |
| 06:08.41 | dwc- | Error454: yes |
| 06:08.57 | rwhitby | Error454: that's the general direction, yes. |
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| 06:09.20 | glazedfaith | thanks rod |
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| 06:09.27 | glazedfaith | I'll let you know how it turns out |
| 06:09.45 | Error454 | Right, well that seems reasonable, I think that would really clean up some of the camera stuff. I'll start taking a closer look at tweaking all these naming patches. |
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| 06:12.34 | User470 | Hi all |
| 06:12.36 | Error454 | Oh, did anyone get minecraft running via xecutah? |
| 06:13.04 | User470 | any one help me how to display dynamic data (sqlite) in virtual list ? |
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| 06:14.25 | User470 | any one pls |
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| 06:15.27 | rwhitby | Error454: not yet |
| 06:17.16 | Error454 | rwhitby: Sounds like fun but I'm already spread too thin, plus I'm afraid of the extreme time wasting that might ensue if I were successful |
| 06:18.00 | User470 | hay Error 454 : would u like to help me |
| 06:19.09 | Error454 | User470: I don't know, do you think I can help you? |
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| 06:19.52 | Aj889 | hi |
| 06:25.02 | Aj889 | al |
| 06:25.04 | Aj889 | all |
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| 06:26.44 | scoutcamper | Error454, i have been/am attempting to get minecraft going. However, it wants ia32-libs to run, and those arent for ARM, and their is no SRC code avaliable for ia32 so ive kinda hit a stumbling block |
| 06:27.01 | scoutcamper | Error454, however, minecrafts server runs fine :D |
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| 06:28.30 | Error454 | scoutcamper: Hmm, of course the server runs fine. Hey who can claim to run a minecraft server on their phone? That's cool. Yeah ia32-libs, do they even exist for arm? |
| 06:28.59 | scoutcamper | nope |
| 06:29.02 | scoutcamper | thats the issue |
| 06:29.22 | scoutcamper | if i had the source, i would recompile them, but they are closed source |
| 06:29.28 | Error454 | what needs ia32-libs? I thought those were for cross-compatibility for 64-bit procs |
| 06:30.03 | scoutcamper | liblwjgl.so |
| 06:30.09 | scoutcamper | a java game library |
| 06:31.04 | Aj889 | anyone working on Enyo? |
| 06:31.05 | Error454 | jmonkeyengine |
| 06:31.22 | scoutcamper | Aj889, enyo for what? |
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| 06:34.16 | Error454 | scoutcamper: so you can't apt-get ia32-libs? |
| 06:34.25 | Aj889 | enyo for webos3.0 |
| 06:34.45 | scoutcamper | Error454, nope |
| 06:34.53 | scoutcamper | Aj889, lots of people are |
| 06:35.29 | Aj889 | then i have a simple prob |
| 06:35.41 | dwc- | why would there be an ia32-libs for arm? |
| 06:35.51 | Aj889 | how to display sqlite db(dynamic data) in virtual list |
| 06:36.29 | Error454 | It looks like that game engine has an android port, so it can run on arm |
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| 08:34.43 | glazedfaith | Ok, I got the comm boards swapped out, baked the tokens, ran the doctor, and I'm getting Sign In Failed, even though it says I'm on sprint, and I've got Ev |
| 08:34.48 | glazedfaith | What else am I missing? |
| 08:37.13 | glazedfaith | And it won't let me create a profile either |
| 08:37.19 | glazedfaith | Am I boned? |
| 08:38.00 | ka6sox | wait for it... |
| 08:39.13 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: post a log of the doctor that you ran from the command line to see the full logs. |
| 08:40.46 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: does it create a log, or should I look at the actual output in the terminal? |
| 08:41.24 | rwhitby | when you run it from the command line you see copious amounts of logging |
| 08:41.30 | glazedfaith | right |
| 08:41.40 | rwhitby | post a log of you building the doctor too |
| 08:41.49 | glazedfaith | k |
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| 08:47.45 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/zYCbgPJF Doctor Build |
| 08:48.20 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/54ZsBzpG Running the Doctor |
| 08:49.40 | rwhitby | glazedfaith: if you remove model check or remove carrier check you cannot log into a profile |
| 08:49.49 | glazedfaith | oh |
| 08:49.57 | rwhitby | which wiki page are you following? |
| 08:49.57 | glazedfaith | then why did I do that? |
| 08:50.28 | glazedfaith | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus |
| 08:53.47 | glazedfaith | It does say sprint in the corner. Should I just go ahead and run the stock doctor now? The only reason I hadn't yet is because that wiki says to log in and check the device info to make sure that it says the proper Carrier and Model |
| 08:56.45 | glazedfaith | ##RTN# Reports PRODOID as P100EWW |
| 08:59.16 | rwhitby | if DMCARRIER says Sprint, then you can just run a Sprint doctor on it |
| 09:01.04 | glazedfaith | in ##RTN# or somewhere else? |
| 09:30.09 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: success. Phone rebooting |
| 09:30.28 | glazedfaith | rwhitby: thanks for your help, rod. you're everybody's favorite. |
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| 11:29.46 | Ajay007 | hi |
| 11:29.48 | Ajay007 | all |
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| 11:32.05 | cryptk | hola |
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| 11:34.16 | Ajay007778 | any one working on Enyo ? Need a simple help |
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| 11:42.48 | pc-world | what's your pblem? |
| 11:43.02 | pc-world | upps sry your away again :D |
| 11:43.09 | pc-world | *you're |
| 11:44.14 | cryptk | Ajay007778, you don't need to ask to ask a question... just ask the question and if someone has the answer they will likely give it |
| 11:47.17 | ka6sox | pc-world, saw your article in P|C |
| 11:48.00 | pc-world | ka6sox: about the img file? |
| 11:48.00 | ka6sox | I'm concerned that the device will no longer go into USB mode. |
| 11:48.10 | ka6sox | yes |
| 11:48.53 | ka6sox | because /media/internal is severed from the rest of the OS when you go into USB mode |
| 11:49.11 | ka6sox | and anything (like an image file with links to it) will prevent that from happening. |
| 11:49.27 | Ajay007778 | any one know how to display sqlite db in virtual list ? |
| 11:50.16 | pc-world | Aya007778: just make the query, when you get the results, call refresh, and in the render method display the contents |
| 11:50.54 | Ajay007778 | yes but some how i dont know it is not working |
| 11:50.56 | Ajay007778 | https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16583 |
| 11:51.05 | Ajay007778 | check my forum post |
| 11:51.05 | pc-world | ka6sox: Haven't tried it yet, but you can unmount before going into USB mode, or maybe adding a script that unmounts it before the USB mode is started |
| 11:51.44 | ka6sox | then that would mean any optware apps would have to quit first |
| 11:51.58 | ka6sox | so something like ssh server would STOP as that point |
| 11:52.10 | Ajay007778 | @pc-world can you please check this https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16583 |
| 11:52.34 | pc-world | Ajay007778: are you sure you have the setupRow method correctly defined? check the docs |
| 11:53.31 | pc-world | ka6sox: I did it because I don't want to doctor, don't want to lose any space in /media/internal and don't want to take any risk with repartitioning |
| 11:54.17 | Ajay007778 | @pc-world : yes the probleam is that after getting data from the FOR loop how to display it in virtual list ..i got the valu in commented Alert |
| 11:54.35 | ka6sox | pc-world, fair enough..however this method will most likely fail an OTA and certainly will fail a USB mode switch. |
| 11:55.05 | pc-world | ka6sox: my method is not thought for users who don't know what they're doing... it's thought for users who will think of unmounting it before an OTA update ;) |
| 11:55.21 | Ajay007778 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.35 | pc-world | Ajay007778: first, rename your current setupRow method |
| 11:55.45 | Ajay007778 | ok |
| 11:55.49 | ka6sox | pc-world, a better method in that case is to put it in cryptofs |
| 11:56.05 | pc-world | ka6sox: why? |
| 11:56.15 | pc-world | Ajay007778: then add your results to an array you store in your object |
| 11:56.25 | pc-world | Ajay007778: call render on your VirtualList |
| 11:56.53 | pc-world | Ajay007778: create a new setupRow like in the docs and set your content of the specified item every time setupRow is callec |
| 11:56.55 | pc-world | *called |
| 11:56.57 | ka6sox | pc-world, because during USB mode the cryptofs is "suspended" and when USB mode is exited it is "reconnected" |
| 11:57.14 | pc-world | Ajay007778: I think you should read the docs about VirtualList |
| 11:57.22 | pc-world | ka6sox: ok, did you try it? |
| 11:57.31 | ka6sox | many many times |
| 11:57.43 | Ajay007778 | ok let me try and performing according to your step |
| 11:57.58 | Ajay007778 | by d way thanks pc-world |
| 11:58.20 | ka6sox | pc-world, deepending on the app it will either recover from this or fail.... |
| 11:58.31 | ka6sox | but at least it won't prevent entering USB mode |
| 11:59.04 | pc-world | actually I don't want optware to use my Ubuntu image :) |
| 11:59.16 | pc-world | I think it would be better for optware to not use my ubuntu image but another one |
| 11:59.28 | pc-world | because I have to recreate my ubuntu image several tiimes |
| 11:59.31 | ka6sox | okay I"m sortty I meant ubuntu image |
| 11:59.33 | pc-world | so optware would be lost too |
| 11:59.50 | ka6sox | yes, true too |
| 12:00.01 | pc-world | yes but I think optware uses /media/ext3fs too |
| 12:00.12 | pc-world | this should be configurable |
| 12:00.13 | ka6sox | doesn't have to |
| 12:00.33 | ka6sox | if /media/ext3fs is NOT present it creates an image in cryptofs |
| 12:02.02 | pc-world | I know but if it is it uses it without asking the user |
| 12:02.55 | ka6sox | then the discussion is moot as someone (currently) has doctored the device. |
| 12:03.24 | ka6sox | because thats (currently) the only way for that partition to be created. |
| 12:05.30 | ka6sox | I have manually resized/rrepartitioned about 20 times and it works fine...(because I do it a lot I'm not uncomfortable with that) |
| 12:05.59 | ka6sox | but to make it 'safe" under all conditions does take work...so its not something (currently) to be done lightly. |
| 12:06.51 | ka6sox | the idea of putting the chroot in the cryptofs is one that has been talked aobut for a long time. |
| 12:07.31 | ka6sox | however since it most likely will at minimum suspend whatever is runining in the chroot and may in fact crash it, it isn't a great optoin. |
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| 12:09.10 | pc-world | ok |
| 12:09.12 | pc-world | have to leave now |
| 12:10.06 | ka6sox | I was concerned that folks trying this would end up with killing USB mode first. |
| 12:10.44 | ka6sox | okay have a good day...I should probably get some sleep before I have to wake up too. |
| 12:10.53 | pc-world | then write a post in the thread to warn users ;) |
| 12:10.59 | pc-world | thanks |
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| 12:15.14 | Ajay007778 | @ka6sox |
| 12:15.16 | Ajay007778 | hi |
| 12:15.30 | ka6sox | hi Ajay007778 |
| 12:16.55 | Ajay007778 | i am stuck in a simple prob |
| 12:17.08 | Ajay007778 | https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16583 |
| 12:17.15 | Ajay007778 | can you pls help me |
| 12:17.35 | Ajay007778 | just replay a small solution code on that thread ... |
| 12:18.23 | ka6sox | that is outside of what I really know...wish I could hlep but I probably would steer you wrong :( |
| 12:19.04 | Ajay007778 | its ok |
| 12:19.38 | ka6sox | my js knowledge is very very small (non-existatn) |
| 12:19.57 | ka6sox | Imostly deal with base OS things... |
| 12:20.09 | Ajay007778 | hmmm.. nop |
| 12:20.23 | Ajay007778 | my too i am nooby to webOS |
| 12:21.24 | ka6sox | ya, its a bit different...but at least its not Java. |
| 12:23.27 | Ajay007778 | ys |
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| 14:04.44 | RavenII | nice!...http://kb.hpwebos.com/wps/portal/kb2/na/pre/p100eww/sprint/solutions/article/13171_en.html is what I've been looking for!...now I can remove the gesture tutorial app.... |
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| 14:07.20 | PatrickC | why couldn't you before? |
| 14:07.43 | pigsflew | Is there any specific place I should go for help with creating a patch? Can patches through Preware add files to /etc/event.d? |
| 14:08.29 | pigsflew | Trying to make this: http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/286890-beats-volume-anyone-4.html#post3038031 |
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| 14:08.56 | pigsflew | installable/removable through preware |
| 14:09.27 | pigsflew | looked at the wiki and there's a lot of help with existing patches, but i couldn't find a page on what the limits of a patch were, and how to go about creating one |
| 14:09.51 | dwc- | I think it's recommended you use /var/palm/event.d over /etc/event.d |
| 14:10.30 | pigsflew | hm, I didn't realize--I was using lighttpd's setup as a guide. I'll switch it over |
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| 14:13.30 | RavenII | PatrickC: because I was hoping to find a way to make it teach me more than just the back gesture...but since that or the Help app do not work...they're gone. |
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| 14:17.05 | pigsflew | thanks dwc-, just updated the script to drop it in /var/palm/event.d instead |
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| 14:20.58 | pigsflew | Aha |
| 14:21.12 | pigsflew | found the Gitorious repo for patches |
| 14:25.04 | pigsflew | hm |
| 14:25.29 | pigsflew | it appears I did not understand that patches were exactly what they say on the tin |
| 14:28.31 | pigsflew | Nope! this is what i wanted |
| 14:28.35 | pigsflew | http://gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications/blobs/webos-1.4.5/dangerous/dangerous-powersave-smartreflex.patch |
| 14:28.39 | pigsflew | awesome |
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| 14:56.51 | pigsflew | Is the webOS patches upload form no longer available? |
| 14:58.12 | hape | pigsflew: Here you go => http://patches.webos-internals.org/ |
| 14:59.48 | pigsflew | hape, thanks! |
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| 15:09.55 | matbee | You know what'd be a good patch? |
| 15:10.30 | matbee | In a message app, goto the menu and select "Pop out message" or whatever, to create a new card out of it |
| 15:10.46 | matbee | and, obviously, move back to the main message list |
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| 15:16.39 | b12 | so, just a hypothetical here - suppose I bought 2 pres for parts, and just for fun, carelessly metadoc'd them to 2.1 |
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| 15:18.05 | b12 | and then suppose, hypothetically, that one pre was in poor condition w a good ESN and the other was in good condition w a bad ESN |
| 15:18.37 | b12 | would it be possible at this point to swap the com board w the good ESN into the phone in good condition? |
| 15:18.42 | RagingMind | hello all. |
| 15:18.47 | b12 | or have the tokens been lost? |
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| 15:22.14 | pigsflew | hape, submitted my first patch! woohoo |
| 15:23.47 | hape | your welcome, now you have to wait for the review |
| 15:24.17 | pigsflew | yep |
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| 16:45.05 | Abyssul | Can you use a bad ESN for sprintfying? |
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| 16:45.41 | Loudergood | I'm not clear on which part you want that to fulfill |
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| 16:46.01 | Abyssul | ESN is bad on the Pre 2, but my Sprint Pre- is clean |
| 16:46.12 | Loudergood | jackpot |
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| 16:46.19 | summatusmentis | Abyssul: ESN is attached to the comms board, so yes |
| 16:46.27 | summatusmentis | I believe |
| 16:46.34 | Loudergood | yes |
| 16:46.50 | Abyssul | Awesome |
| 16:46.59 | Abyssul | Now to find a bad ESN (or good) Pre 2 |
| 16:48.05 | Loudergood | good luck with that |
| 16:48.08 | summatusmentis | I've been looking, there aren't any bad ESN pre2s on ebay |
| 16:48.23 | summatusmentis | or, haven't been |
| 16:48.35 | Abyssul | There was a Pre2 (sprint) on Ebay just a minute ago for 170 bucks |
| 16:49.10 | Abyssul | At that price I could just get a new Pre2 from HP for 230 bucks lol |
| 16:49.14 | summatusmentis | a sprint pre2? |
| 16:49.23 | Abyssul | Yeah, thats what it said... |
| 16:49.25 | summatusmentis | must've been sprintified? |
| 16:49.31 | Abyssul | Thats my guess |
| 16:49.32 | summatusmentis | sprint doesn't natively sell a pre2 |
| 16:51.00 | dtzWill | either sprintified or incorrect listing :) |
| 16:51.14 | Abyssul | Wouldnt matter to me. I'd switch the comm board either way |
| 16:51.33 | dtzWill | i'm dying to liberate myself from my old hardware |
| 16:52.19 | Abyssul | My Pre- is falling apart lol |
| 16:52.20 | dtzWill | comm board switching works, i guess. only doing it a few times (across my own devices) i feel like it's just...janky |
| 16:52.31 | Abyssul | and since Sprint isnt getting anything, Im looking for a Pre2 |
| 16:53.01 | dtzWill | like some combination of not quite going together perfectly, and the belief that somehow it has '2 year old hardware in it' that makes is weaker. or something. |
| 16:53.22 | summatusmentis | dtzWill: janky is right :) I'll probably sprintify a pre2 for a while, until I can justify switching |
| 16:53.27 | dtzWill | yeah i really just wnt to give sprint my money and go on with a sprint pre3 :/ |
| 16:54.02 | summatusmentis | I agree |
| 16:54.34 | dtzWill | i can't decide if i'm more raged at the very fact that this situation is even possible |
| 16:54.56 | halfhalo-work | heh |
| 16:55.08 | Abyssul | I cant believe I still use my Pre- and stick with WebOS |
| 16:55.09 | dtzWill | (what if your ISP told you you couldn't use a pc or certain other devices, b/c they don't approve them. or something) |
| 16:55.20 | halfhalo-work | hearts gsm |
| 16:55.26 | dtzWill | *since you didn't buy it through them, it didn't have a comcast logo on it or something |
| 16:55.30 | dtzWill | it's just..crap |
| 16:55.43 | dtzWill | can't tell if i'm more mad at that, or how sad i get when i actually look to switch |
| 16:55.50 | dtzWill | and see the prices elsewhere, data caps :( |
| 16:55.55 | dtzWill | not taht i really even use that much data? |
| 16:56.00 | dtzWill | but that's kinda not the point |
| 16:56.08 | matbee | mmm i got a developer pre 2 from palm |
| 16:56.12 | matbee | thank god |
| 16:56.18 | matbee | my pre- was getting hard to handle |
| 16:57.08 | Abyssul | I almost did, then they canceled the program |
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| 16:57.29 | Abyssul | Stupid HP and charging tax through an online website... |
| 16:57.37 | Loudergood | what's sad is that AT&T got smacked down for that crap decades ago with landline phones |
| 16:57.59 | dtzWill | it's just worthless, who gives a damn where i bought the phone |
| 16:58.04 | dtzWill | should be able to make my own if i'm so inclined |
| 16:58.05 | dtzWill | -.- |
| 16:58.21 | dtzWill | sigh. |
| 16:58.56 | Abyssul | This dev coupon is useless to me. Anyone want it? lol |
| 17:01.00 | dtzWill | anyone have any tips for ATT or so? |
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| 17:01.11 | dtzWill | had a nice sprint family plan, with corporate discounts, too :( hehe |
| 17:01.15 | halfhalo-work | I like att |
| 17:03.48 | summatusmentis | dtzWill: I think I can get some amount of discount for being a student at UMN, but I think it's like 8%, if you come across anything let me know |
| 17:12.26 | matbee | crazy, watching my pre2 compiling |
| 17:12.33 | matbee | in ubuntu |
| 17:12.40 | matbee | installing node v0.4.9 |
| 17:12.50 | matbee | I smell my laptop becoming useless |
| 17:20.56 | Abyssul | I hope Hp gets on the ball about the TP dev program |
| 17:24.35 | chpwn | rwhitby: Could I name something Expandah? :p |
| 17:24.38 | chpwn | (not webOS) |
| 17:26.34 | matbee | I'm trying to create an app that .... -needs- in app payments... but no hint at it existing in mojo.. |
| 17:26.47 | matbee | so i have to make my own with paypal |
| 17:27.26 | matbee | with a f/t job, its becoming daunting |
| 17:28.05 | summatusmentis | why write in mojo? |
| 17:29.04 | matbee | ? |
| 17:29.13 | matbee | only the touchpad, which i can't afford, uses enyo |
| 17:29.19 | matbee | therefore; i dont care about enyo. |
| 17:29.54 | matbee | so I'm looking to use my own js libraries to create my app, with phonegap |
| 17:30.03 | matbee | since palm has something up their ass |
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| 17:30.25 | matbee | and, lets be honest, mojo is the worst |
| 17:31.40 | matbee | enyo, most likely, is going to be tablet only |
| 17:33.36 | summatusmentis | matbee: enyo is not going to be tablet only |
| 17:33.46 | matbee | lol |
| 17:33.47 | summatusmentis | they've consistently said enyo is coming to phones |
| 17:33.48 | matbee | right |
| 17:33.56 | matbee | i dont believe it |
| 17:34.21 | summatusmentis | I... ok, well, don't believe it, but I don't know why they'd have separate SDK environments for phones and tablets |
| 17:34.24 | matbee | and our pre 2's arent getting an update to match the pre 3 |
| 17:34.34 | matbee | guaranteed |
| 17:35.04 | Abyssul | Hp: all talk, no walk |
| 17:35.14 | matbee | yeah |
| 17:35.39 | summatusmentis | dude, they're making an enyo ares, why would they keep separate SDKs? |
| 17:35.49 | matbee | summatusmentis, it's happening, don't ask me. |
| 17:35.58 | matbee | I'm very pessimistic about it |
| 17:36.09 | matbee | just like the "upgrade path to 2.1" for legacy devices |
| 17:36.20 | matbee | It's called "stfu" in business terms |
| 17:36.26 | summatusmentis | who am I supposed to ask then? what are you basing your pessimism on? |
| 17:36.46 | matbee | Pre 2's were also being given away to developers simply to deplete non-hp branded stock |
| 17:36.55 | summatusmentis | right, so?? |
| 17:36.59 | summatusmentis | sorry, 1 ? |
| 17:37.44 | summatusmentis | they still tell new developers to start with enyo, because mojo is gonna stop being supported |
| 17:37.45 | matbee | look, nothing past the Veer/Pre3/Touchpad is getting anything. Also, Pre3/Veer only run webos 2.1/2.2/2.3, and they ALL run mojo |
| 17:38.06 | matbee | I had a pre 3 in my hand |
| 17:38.11 | matbee | it was mojo. through and through. |
| 17:38.20 | summatusmentis | Patrick is running enyo on his pre2 on 2.1 right now |
| 17:38.26 | matbee | yes its hacked on |
| 17:38.32 | summatusmentis | there's nothing stopping them from putting enyo on 2.x series |
| 17:38.33 | halfhalo-work | points out the pre3 is not out yet, so that doesn't count |
| 17:38.52 | summatusmentis | enyo != 3.0 |
| 17:39.17 | matbee | halfhalo-work, really? it was richard kerris's pre 3 |
| 17:39.26 | summatusmentis | I know it's hacked on, but there's nothing to suggest that it's not happening |
| 17:39.30 | matbee | summatusmentis, actually webos 2.x == mojo.. I guarantee it |
| 17:39.43 | summatusmentis | that doesn't make any sense |
| 17:39.50 | matbee | think in business terms |
| 17:39.57 | summatusmentis | 3.0 uses enyo, but enyo doesn't need 3.0 |
| 17:39.59 | matbee | why introduce a new sdk in the same major version? |
| 17:40.10 | matbee | It would become a NEW major version |
| 17:40.19 | summatusmentis | so, in business terms, why keep 2 SDKs? |
| 17:40.34 | matbee | what? |
| 17:40.41 | summatusmentis | why keep enyo and mojo |
| 17:40.43 | matbee | Im saying the Pre 3/Veer are staying 2.x |
| 17:40.47 | matbee | and the touchpad is 3.x |
| 17:40.54 | matbee | 2.x = mojo, 3.x = enyo |
| 17:41.06 | summatusmentis | yeah, so why would they keep mojo and enyo as current SDKs? |
| 17:41.10 | summatusmentis | that doesn't make any sense |
| 17:41.13 | matbee | to you |
| 17:41.24 | cryptk | summatusmentis, why wouldn't they |
| 17:41.40 | cryptk | can you give me a good reason, along with supporting statements from HP to the contrary? |
| 17:41.56 | summatusmentis | Ruby said the phones aren't getting 3.0 |
| 17:42.03 | summatusmentis | this does not mean they're not getting enyo |
| 17:42.08 | matbee | lol |
| 17:42.20 | matbee | you have a lot of faith in a company that said the Pre-/+ are getting 2.x |
| 17:42.25 | matbee | and then said the opposite |
| 17:42.39 | Abyssul | Yeah, Im losing faith in HP/Palm. |
| 17:43.04 | matbee | Here's what's gonna happen... you're going to have to keep spending money. |
| 17:43.36 | matbee | I'm not leaving webOS any time soon, but I refuse to even start thinking of developing in enyo |
| 17:43.38 | cryptk | summatusmentis, mave you read ANY statements that are any kind of official at all stating that they are getting enyo? |
| 17:43.40 | halfhalo-work | has faith in a company in which he is currently sitting in. he doesn't count. |
| 17:43.57 | summatusmentis | cryptk: the entire HP website indicates veer and pre3 are getting enyo |
| 17:43.59 | cryptk | halfhalo-work, needs to STFU and get to work making me some cool toys |
| 17:44.05 | matbee | LOL |
| 17:44.14 | cryptk | summatusmentis, then it would seem they are getting it then |
| 17:44.22 | summatusmentis | right |
| 17:44.23 | cryptk | if HP says they are, then why is there argument about it? |
| 17:44.39 | summatusmentis | because matbee is being pessmisitic |
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| 17:44.43 | summatusmentis | pessimistic |
| 17:45.02 | matbee | they're not getting enyo |
| 17:45.05 | matbee | don't kid yourself |
| 17:45.19 | matbee | right now they just want to sell and not work on the actual OS |
| 17:45.47 | matbee | because without sales #'s, they can't justify working on the system |
| 17:45.59 | summatusmentis | I don't think there's any argument that veer/pre3 are getting enyo |
| 17:46.16 | summatusmentis | I also don't think there's any argument that veer/pre3 aren't getting 3.0 |
| 17:46.29 | matbee | heh |
| 17:46.31 | matbee | waits |
| 17:46.42 | matbee | If i'm wrong, I'll give you a hug |
| 17:46.50 | matbee | If I'm right, I'm coming here to gloat |
| 17:47.13 | matbee | Im just waiting for the touchpad sales to tank, and so they become cheap |
| 17:47.22 | summatusmentis | I think we're gonna have to wait until they get their current batch of products out the door (which means at least pre3, maybe something else) |
| 17:47.35 | summatusmentis | then I think we'll see updates that allow enyo (perhaps coinciding with pre3 launch) |
| 17:48.18 | matbee | don't bet on it |
| 17:48.19 | matbee | srsly |
| 17:48.57 | matbee | If I were you, I'd use phonegap and develop my own system |
| 17:49.23 | matbee | You don't have to wait if you use phonegap |
| 17:50.00 | summatusmentis | I'm not really an active dev anyway, but you seem awfully sure without providing any real support |
| 17:50.31 | matbee | what? |
| 17:50.36 | matbee | no, youre sure without the support |
| 17:50.45 | matbee | I'm highly doubtful from all of this hear-say |
| 17:50.57 | summatusmentis | what hearsay? it says on the HP website they're getting enyo |
| 17:51.10 | summatusmentis | Ruby said in his recent interview they're not getting 3.0 |
| 17:51.40 | Abyssul | (soon) |
| 17:51.42 | summatusmentis | they've said mojo is EOL |
| 17:51.52 | matbee | where? |
| 17:52.10 | matbee | im looking at their website |
| 17:52.11 | summatusmentis | the entire dev site says "current SDK is enyo" |
| 17:52.15 | matbee | no mention of enyo |
| 17:52.30 | summatusmentis | there are no links to mojo SDKs |
| 17:52.39 | Abyssul | Mojo is waning out and Enyo is taking it's place. |
| 17:52.52 | matbee | ... |
| 17:52.57 | matbee | right |
| 17:53.27 | matbee | I'd love to see it happen |
| 17:53.43 | matbee | but with their track record, nuh-uh ain't nuttin' happenin' |
| 17:53.56 | summatusmentis | their track record? one change of plans? |
| 17:53.58 | Abyssul | "stay tuned" |
| 17:53.59 | cryptk | matbee, I do want to point out that it is a new company now |
| 17:54.05 | summatusmentis | this |
| 17:54.08 | cryptk | and either way... you guys are boring and depressing |
| 17:54.11 | matbee | LOL |
| 17:54.16 | cryptk | can you find something more interesting to banter on about |
| 17:54.24 | summatusmentis | Lion is out today :-P |
| 17:54.31 | Abyssul | *yawn* |
| 17:54.31 | cryptk | something not related to an evil company |
| 17:54.44 | summatusmentis | cryptk: I joined this new anarcho-collective |
| 17:54.55 | cryptk | still boring |
| 17:54.59 | summatusmentis | (not true, but non-evil company?) |
| 17:55.08 | matbee | you joined hp? |
| 17:55.23 | summatusmentis | heh, I wish |
| 17:55.28 | matbee | ah |
| 17:55.39 | matbee | their toronto office is 10 seconds away from me |
| 17:55.42 | summatusmentis | no no, my point was, I'm not sure I believe non-evil companies exist |
| 17:57.23 | Abyssul | Google :p |
| 17:57.46 | matbee | too bad android sucks |
| 17:58.29 | Abyssul | Saw my first TP ads in a online video on the 17th. I was like "that was fast..." |
| 17:59.31 | matbee | its virtually non existant in canada |
| 18:00.01 | matbee | it doesnt matter, kindle and the movie store are only available in the USA |
| 18:00.05 | matbee | heh. |
| 18:00.26 | Abyssul | (for now) |
| 18:02.22 | summatusmentis | Abyssul: I'd been seeing a couple on Comdedy Central before |
| 18:02.22 | matbee | right.. |
| 18:02.42 | matbee | you don't neglect a major launch country |
| 18:02.59 | Abyssul | Why Russell Brand ads... we needs something a little Apple-like |
| 18:03.15 | matbee | if you're going to do that, neglect other countries, atleast pay netflix to make an app |
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| 18:05.58 | cryptk | matbee, could you take your negativity elsewhere |
| 18:06.03 | cryptk | try /join #/dev/null |
| 18:06.06 | matbee | haha |
| 18:06.10 | cryptk | you are still boring me... |
| 18:06.22 | cryptk | lol |
| 18:06.51 | cryptk | you are stating things that we all know... and we have already had a statement that the movie store is going to other countries |
| 18:07.11 | cryptk | kindle may take more time because it uses OpenSSL and there are government export restrictions on encryption materials |
| 18:08.05 | matbee | I wish companies would start treating silly laws like that, the way that google opened their music store, do it anyway. :P |
| 18:08.45 | cryptk | google gets away with it because it is based on a website... it is different when you are distributing an application |
| 18:09.05 | cryptk | and it isn't impossible to get the app out there... it just takes a little more time to get the paperwork straight |
| 18:09.34 | cryptk | matbee, you cannot have been serious when you just requested that companies starting blatantly committing federal offenses... |
| 18:11.20 | matbee | no, merely just want a bombardment of 'offenses' from a number of companies, to hopefully wake up the courts |
| 18:11.38 | cryptk | matbee, do you know why encryption export laws are in place |
| 18:12.05 | cryptk | because I do... and you are making yourself look silly |
| 18:13.29 | matbee | well, despite the obvious where they want to control the level of anonymity and level of encryption |
| 18:13.45 | cryptk | trust me... there is more to it than that |
| 18:14.04 | cryptk | it isn't about having control purely for the sake of "look what we can do" |
| 18:14.15 | matbee | Well, it's a lot of espionage control |
| 18:14.23 | cryptk | but political discussions do not belong in this channel, so I am going to stop talking |
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| 19:12.30 | dwc- | well that was a boring discussion |
| 19:14.43 | pigsflew | haha |
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| 19:18.59 | PatrickC | Puffy_tp: wirc bug (or so it seems) |
| 19:19.19 | PatrickC | when I close wIRC without disconnecting first, it won't re-connect |
| 19:19.35 | PatrickC | I have to kill it with JStop to fix it |
| 19:20.20 | dwc- | that doesn't happen all the time |
| 19:20.31 | dwc- | it depends on whether the plugin crashes or not |
| 19:21.04 | PatrickC | it happens almost every time for me |
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| 19:23.19 | dwc- | that's what causes a lot of the no reconnects too |
| 19:24.11 | PatrickC | after I close |
| 19:24.22 | PatrickC | I re-open it (to reconnect) and it shows as connected |
| 19:26.26 | pc-world | type "ps -aux" (or the like) to see if the plugin crashed or not |
| 19:26.49 | PatrickC | next time it happens I will |
| 19:26.55 | PatrickC | pc-world: thx for the responses |
| 19:28.05 | pc-world | no problem |
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| 19:37.26 | PuffTheMagic | PatrickC: put it on redmine |
| 19:38.32 | dwc- | unfortunately, I haven't been able to get webos to give me a coredump. I enabled core dumps, and I can see all the palm processes giving usable crashdumps, but the wirc ones are always 0 bytes. and I checked the jail config and even tried hardcoding a value other than infinite (in case infinite actually parsed to 0) to no avail |
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| 19:39.35 | pc-world | dwc-: have had problems to get logs ("mincore" dumps) of PDK apps since webOS 2.0 as well |
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| 20:51.39 | dwc- | anyone using the private browsing patch on 2.1.0? (2.1.0-17) ... the description looks updated, but the patch file doesn't appear to have those additional changes in it |
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| 21:07.46 | Jack87 | Dead! |
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| 21:15.11 | Kaelic | Anyone noticed significant slowdown when performing rapid touch inputs in the PDK for performance critical apps? |
| 21:15.22 | Kaelic | oops, wrong channel |
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| 21:32.40 | Pokerking98 | Hi all :) |
| 21:34.07 | Pokerking98 | if(all.isEmpty()){ |
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| 21:34.30 | Pokerking98 | return "Welp.... Thanks anyways guys"; |
| 21:34.52 | PatrickC | Pokerking98: yes? |
| 21:35.00 | PatrickC | Jack87: huh? haha |
| 21:36.15 | ka6sox | PatrickC, where is that link you posted yesterday for pc-world's method? |
| 21:36.19 | Pokerking98 | I was more hoping I would come here and find a lively discussion.... Unless I am mistaken this seems to be a lil more serious then that. |
| 21:36.34 | PatrickC | ka6sox: I didn't post it |
| 21:36.40 | PatrickC | pc-world did |
| 21:36.47 | PatrickC | lemme check my history for it |
| 21:37.04 | ka6sox | PatrickC, you pointed me to it. |
| 21:37.15 | PatrickC | pc-world pointed me to it |
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| 21:37.31 | Pokerking98 | lol, well played sir |
| 21:38.06 | Pokerking98 | Has anyone here managed to get an IDE on their touchpad? |
| 21:38.58 | ka6sox | Pokerking98, I think someone said they tried or did succeed in getting eclipse in a chroot...I could be wrong about that. |
| 21:39.24 | Pokerking98 | :O Were you the one who responded to my thread? |
| 21:39.40 | Pokerking98 | on precentral |
| 21:40.16 | PatrickC | ka6sox: I believe they also got Ares working |
| 21:40.38 | ka6sox | PatrickC, ddi not know that....kewl. |
| 21:40.45 | PatrickC | yep |
| 21:40.50 | PatrickC | I believe halfhalo-work did it |
| 21:40.54 | PatrickC | ka6sox: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/240926-x-server-pre-14.html#post3036872 |
| 21:41.41 | ka6sox | Pokerking98, not me |
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| 21:41.49 | ka6sox | I rarely post on P|C |
| 21:41.51 | Pokerking98 | Right. Well thanks for the help |
| 21:41.52 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny!! |
| 21:42.05 | NuttyBunny | Yo! :D |
| 21:42.10 | PatrickC | lol |
| 21:42.21 | PatrickC | http://awesomeapps.8tar.com/help :D |
| 21:42.37 | NuttyBunny | ~seen chuqui |
| 21:42.52 | infobot | chuqui <~chuqui@palm-64-28-152-131.palm.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 21d 5h 47m 57s ago, saying: 'cryptk: hey!'. |
| 21:42.52 | NuttyBunny | mmm... |
| 21:43.39 | PatrickC | 21d lol |
| 21:43.47 | NuttyBunny | mmm... no, that won't work ;) I bet he lurks in #webos most of the time.. hehehe |
| 21:43.53 | PatrickC | infobot: you are wrong |
| 21:43.53 | infobot | I think you lost me on that one, PatrickC |
| 21:44.00 | PatrickC | hahaha |
| 21:44.35 | NuttyBunny | hahahaha |
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| 23:55.17 | jamcar | it cost 150 for one app on the app catalog so how much is it on preware and or how do ii put an app on preware |
| 23:56.28 | ka6sox | jamcar, what are you asking? |
| 23:57.02 | jamcar | how would i put an app on preware so other people can download it |
| 23:58.25 | rwhitby | jamcar: submit it to the PreCentral app gallery |
| 23:58.39 | jamcar | k |
| 23:58.50 | rwhitby | jamcar: BTW, HP app catalog is free. no charges. |
| 23:59.10 | rwhitby | so I'm not sure where your $150 figure is coming from. |
| 23:59.17 | jamcar | cool even on webOS 1.4.5 |
| 23:59.41 | rwhitby | indeed it is |
| 23:59.43 | jamcar | http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/207460-what-do-you-think-150-put-app-app-catalog.html |
