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| 01:49.30 | destinal | ~whe |
| 01:49.30 | infobot | from memory, whe is a WebOS Hacker Extraordinaire, which is what Joshua Topolsky called zsoc after he typed "make" one time... |
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| 02:18.47 | dtzWill | hahaha |
| 02:18.49 | dtzWill | aww, miss zsoc :( |
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| 02:28.50 | destinal | dtzWill: me too |
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| 02:43.12 | Deihmos | Touchpad reviews not that bad. Also not that good |
| 02:44.06 | destinal | Deihmos: IMO what's awesome will be what developers and hackers do with it, not whether it's as thin as ipad2 |
| 02:44.41 | destinal | it seems good enoiugh that if it can do awesome things, people will forgive it for nnot being ipad2 |
| 02:44.47 | Deihmos | Main gripe is sluggish. |
| 02:45.01 | Deihmos | Plus app catalog |
| 02:45.29 | Deihmos | What awesome things |
| 02:46.47 | destinal | Deihmos: yeah, sluggish has always been a webos thing, but I've heard it's way better than the earlier demos |
| 02:47.45 | Deihmos | Being sluggish all these years is a major problem. Can never forget when I first got the pre. |
| 02:48.24 | Deihmos | Why is it so sluggish though. Is it even capable of not being sluggish |
| 02:49.00 | destinal | lots of layers of abstraction usually. at some point you need to mae a plane aerodynamic rather than just putting bigger engines on it |
| 02:50.16 | rwhitby | destinal: a log of the sluggishness in current webOS devices is all the logging to flash |
| 02:51.15 | Deihmos | Can flash be on demand ? |
| 02:51.19 | destinal | rwhitby: ah right, pretty massive logging (and may make the flash drive fail prematurely as well). probably a good idea to turn that off I suppose |
| 02:51.28 | dwc- | not flash like adobe flash, flash like flash storage |
| 02:51.47 | Deihmos | Oh |
| 02:52.02 | dwc- | most of us care little about what powerd thinks about our wifi |
| 02:52.21 | destinal | dwc-: oh but it has so much to say about it! :) |
| 02:53.21 | dwc- | ... or that luna has realized it should update the clock display |
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| 02:54.04 | rwhitby | yeah, as I've said before, Palm should employ an intern to watch /var/log/messages for a day and drive every single message printed either to removal or to a bug report. |
| 02:55.03 | bpadalino | so much logging |
| 02:55.40 | rwhitby | and it's not only speed, all that flash writing takes battery power too |
| 02:56.49 | Deihmos | I kind of thought palm wouldb get Webos right by now. I don't understand what the team has been doing all these years |
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| 03:00.22 | dwc- | the marketable features, hopefully |
| 03:00.52 | mhats | hey all... having trouble applying a patch... hide-just-type-text. quick install says it cant connect to webosinternals server for the AUPT scripts. I've tried running it a few times, and it worked a few hours ago on a different device... |
| 03:01.12 | dwc- | my best guess is either oversight or that it was sometimes useful for debugging... and since crash reports get sent to palm, they wanted the info |
| 03:10.51 | mhats | ? |
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| 03:34.50 | oc80z | i just got a 4G modem to turn on in linux with the beceem driver, the U600 dongle |
| 03:37.05 | oc80z | phew. |
| 03:37.42 | oc80z | too bad its not 4G. its actually wimax |
| 03:37.47 | oc80z | but, sales, n all. |
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| 11:35.44 | r9s | hello |
| 11:37.00 | r9s | do you know where (on Pre) I can find files from quick search? I need edit wikipedia search |
| 11:38.20 | r9s | from en.wikipedia.org to pl.wikipedia.org |
| 11:40.30 | r9s | guys... |
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| 12:08.47 | RagingMind | I didn't realize that logging was that bad... /me runs off to install the muffle patch |
| 12:13.17 | rwhitby | that patch has been reported to cause problems. research it first. |
| 12:22.34 | RagingMind | I'm willing to test it a while. the sluggishness has been extra frustrating lately as I've been spending time on the phone with my bank and other bills |
| 12:23.27 | RagingMind | systems that expect touch tones don't like it when you spend 5ish seconds silent (cause it's not responding to me hitting the numbers) |
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| 12:58.51 | RagingMind | http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?tag=mantle_skin;content |
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| 13:44.57 | PuffTheMagic | if the TP is that easy to take apart i wonder if there will be custom backs |
| 13:48.45 | RagingMind | I'm thinking "giant sticker" |
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| 14:11.52 | Loudergood | can I get one in rubberized flat black...like my pre or my thinkpad.. |
| 14:13.09 | PatrickC | ^^ +1 |
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| 16:08.41 | NuttyBunny | Enyooooooooo!!! |
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| 16:10.56 | fudge_ | hello! |
| 16:11.16 | fudge_ | can anyone tell me how to masq once i upgrade to webos 2.1? |
| 16:12.37 | NuttyBunny | use the scripts, they do everything automatically |
| 16:13.14 | rwhitby | fudge_: if you're talking about masqing, then you're following the wrong instructions. use the webos-internals wiki, and ignore everything else on the internet. |
| 16:14.49 | fudge_ | yeah masqing. im too tired to read the wiki any further. been awake for the past day and a half. running on coffee atm... does the scripts automatically masq? |
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| 16:20.53 | rwhitby | um, I recommend you don't do a 2.x upgrade in that state of mind. sleep and then do it. |
| 16:21.51 | rwhitby | all the info is on the wiki. by asking the same question here, you disrespect the time and effort that all the authors of the wiki page spent documenting the process. |
| 16:22.23 | azakus | rwhitby: did you get that device out of QPT? |
| 16:22.47 | rwhitby | azakus: wasn't me. he did a battery pull and it came up fine. |
| 16:23.01 | azakus | power + center for 12 seconds if it happens again |
| 16:24.17 | fudge_ | rwhitby: i dont mean to disrespect anyone. i actually admire the effort that was put into making this thing work. i'll go take a nap in a little while. |
| 16:24.50 | rwhitby | azakus: that documented anywhere? |
| 16:25.04 | azakus | same procedure to reboot, so probably |
| 16:25.20 | azakus | except, QPT mode isn't exactly supposed to happen |
| 16:25.53 | summatusmentis | what makes a phone brickable or not? |
| 16:26.27 | rwhitby | azakus: what is "center" ? |
| 16:26.36 | azakus | the center button |
| 16:27.35 | rwhitby | um, what center button? |
| 16:28.30 | azakus | oho, wrong device... |
| 16:28.44 | azakus | needs to read closer |
| 16:29.30 | azakus | nevermind! |
| 16:30.37 | rwhitby | wonders what device azakus was referring to? |
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| 16:32.08 | azakus | in other news, anyone want the beginnings of an enyoized jstop? |
| 16:36.41 | fudge_ | sup patrick |
| 16:36.51 | PatrickC | hey fudge_ |
| 16:36.57 | PatrickC | nda lifted!!! |
| 16:37.21 | PatrickC | https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=79180#p79180 |
| 16:37.36 | fudge_ | i havent been following the webos train for a while now. just got back a pre :) |
| 16:37.52 | phoque | booya! |
| 16:37.59 | PatrickC | yeah!! |
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| 16:41.07 | fudge_ | this is why i hate technology |
| 16:41.23 | fudge_ | im upgrading to 2.1 and 3.0 is out already -_- |
| 16:41.54 | PatrickC | the SDK isn't out yet |
| 16:42.01 | PatrickC | the NDA has just been lifted |
| 16:42.40 | phoque | fudge_, you can't update phones to 3.0 anyways |
| 16:45.04 | fudge_ | oh lol |
| 16:45.41 | PatrickC | it will (hopefully) be available for Pre³ and Veer |
| 16:46.00 | fudge_ | lol i read that as pre squared :3 |
| 16:46.19 | PatrickC | haha |
| 16:46.42 | fudge_ | does anyone else have problems with their pre reciving calls late? |
| 16:47.03 | fudge_ | mine dosent ring till a good 10 seconds into the call |
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| 16:50.59 | NuttyBunny | you should at least be able to run enyo apps on Pre2, Veer and Pre3 |
| 16:51.50 | PatrickC | runs them on his Pre2 |
| 16:51.54 | PatrickC | I can say that now!!!!! |
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| 16:52.19 | fudge_ | imagines running enyo apps on his imaginary pre2 |
| 16:52.36 | PatrickC | lol |
| 16:52.45 | PatrickC | has 2 pre2's, a Pre+, and a Pre- |
| 16:53.33 | fudge_ | has over 4 broken pre-'s |
| 16:53.46 | PatrickC | :/ |
| 16:53.49 | fudge_ | anyone need a main board? |
| 16:53.56 | playya_ | yes :) |
| 16:54.36 | PatrickC | does :) |
| 16:54.36 | fudge_ | ok, i'll pull them out the box in a little bit. first im gonna go get some shut eye |
| 16:54.44 | PatrickC | night |
| 16:54.58 | fudge_ | g/n, im gonna be back later and we will discuss it further |
| 16:55.11 | fudge_ | is away: sleep |
| 16:55.53 | summatusmentis | wait, PatrickC, how do you run enyo apps on a pre2? |
| 16:56.02 | PatrickC | is special :) |
| 16:56.16 | summatusmentis | I didn't realize that was possible yet |
| 16:56.21 | rwhitby | enyo is just JS, nothing special. |
| 16:56.28 | PatrickC | yeah, if you install it correctly.. |
| 16:56.50 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: I mean, yes, but don't you need the proper stuff in the proper places? |
| 16:57.03 | rwhitby | yes. when has that ever been a barrier? |
| 16:57.38 | summatusmentis | heh, I guess I assumed it was a palm sanctioned way of running enyo on the pre2 :) |
| 16:57.58 | rwhitby | it's webOS device, the software license allows it |
| 16:58.22 | summatusmentis | interesting |
| 16:58.29 | summatusmentis | that's pretty neat |
| 16:59.07 | NuttyBunny | not everything from enyo works under the Pre2 :( |
| 16:59.16 | PatrickC | scrolling doesnt... |
| 16:59.59 | NuttyBunny | but the input example works!! that went into my app ;) |
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| 17:01.38 | PatrickC | :) |
| 17:01.45 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: why don't I have that version? :) |
| 17:02.14 | PatrickC | scoutcamper: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=79180#p79180 |
| 17:03.02 | NuttyBunny | PatrickC: If you run the "input" example, in the more examples folder in your Pre, you see that you can do 2 finger gestures, that I used on my app, you have the latest version (0.0.9 I think), don't you? it does gestures in the emu :) |
| 17:03.24 | PatrickC | I have 0.10 :) |
| 17:03.30 | PatrickC | which is the final release |
| 17:04.12 | PatrickC | does your app scale properly? |
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| 17:06.54 | scoutcamper | PatrickC, that link is invalid |
| 17:07.01 | PatrickC | hrmm.. |
| 17:07.22 | NuttyBunny | my app doesn't scale properly.. yet... and I don't intend it to do... yet... :D |
| 17:07.34 | PatrickC | https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=79180#p79180 |
| 17:08.00 | scoutcamper | yep, saw that |
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| 17:10.55 | PatrickC | now I have to install ssh... |
| 17:19.54 | PatrickC | if I'm getting the permissions denied in the cmd line on my phone, how do I bypass that? |
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| 17:25.10 | PatrickC | anyone? |
| 17:25.40 | zandi | PatrickC: what are you trying to do, and what user are you? |
| 17:25.46 | cryptk | PatrickC, that would depend on what you are doing |
| 17:25.49 | PatrickC | I'm under root |
| 17:25.55 | cryptk | but the general answer would be "bypass it the linux way" |
| 17:25.55 | PatrickC | trying to set up ssh-keygen |
| 17:26.04 | zandi | chmod i guess |
| 17:26.11 | zandi | what, can you not run the program? |
| 17:26.16 | cryptk | where are you trying to output the key to |
| 17:26.21 | zandi | or is it giving you a permissions error on some file? |
| 17:26.25 | cryptk | what are the file permissions at that location |
| 17:26.33 | cryptk | is that location mounted RW or RO |
| 17:26.44 | PatrickC | I'm running |
| 17:26.54 | rwhitby | PatrickC: what wiki page are you following, and where are you up to on it? |
| 17:26.59 | PatrickC | http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH?wasRedirected=true |
| 17:27.20 | PatrickC | under the "Generate Keys from webOS" |
| 17:27.43 | PatrickC | and I'm up to the "/opt/bin/ssh-keygen |
| 17:28.07 | cryptk | try this |
| 17:28.09 | fudge_ | sorry to change subjects here, but i jus have a quick question. Can i just grab any sprint PRL from any sprint phone and flash it to my pre? |
| 17:28.12 | zandi | if it isn't running, you might have to chmod +x that file |
| 17:28.13 | cryptk | mount -o remount,RW / |
| 17:28.16 | cryptk | then run it |
| 17:28.26 | zandi | fudge_: i don't see why not. |
| 17:28.31 | rwhitby | PatrickC: have you read http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Basic_Linux_Use first? |
| 17:28.32 | zandi | worst-case you'll be roaming when you shouldn't be |
| 17:28.41 | fudge_ | lol nice |
| 17:28.42 | cryptk | fudge_, as long as they are both sprint phones, yes, assuming you do it right |
| 17:28.50 | fudge_ | ok great |
| 17:28.52 | PatrickC | rwhitby: no |
| 17:29.00 | rwhitby | PatrickC: start there. |
| 17:29.01 | fudge_ | just wanted to know if the PRL is the same for all phones :3 |
| 17:29.07 | PatrickC | rwhitby: ok |
| 17:29.10 | PatrickC | reading now |
| 17:29.12 | zandi | old ones will probably work alright for the most part |
| 17:29.18 | zandi | i'd try and get the newest ones you can thoguh |
| 17:29.24 | rwhitby | cryptk: giving a mount remount command to someone with no linux knowledge? |
| 17:29.28 | zandi | and as always, keep backups ;) |
| 17:29.40 | fudge_ | yup. i was just wondering what to do when a new PRL comes out :3 |
| 17:29.44 | cryptk | rwhitby, doesn't preware remount RW when you run it |
| 17:29.55 | zandi | yeah, PRLs aren't critical at all. |
| 17:30.17 | zandi | as long as you write ir properly, you shouldn't have to worry about erasing things or bricking the phone (in general!) |
| 17:30.25 | fudge_ | lol |
| 17:30.26 | rwhitby | cryptk: it's not writing to the root partition anyway |
| 17:30.30 | zandi | i'm not sure if the pre does things differently, but i don't think it would |
| 17:30.42 | fudge_ | is the modem on the main board or on the comms board |
| 17:30.51 | cryptk | good point, I'm multitasking, probably shouldn't do that while assisting people, lol |
| 17:30.53 | zandi | not sure |
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| 17:31.01 | fudge_ | oh |
| 17:31.19 | zandi | i know more about CDMA in general than i do about the pre |
| 17:31.26 | PatrickC | rwhitby: I tried running it with sudo, but it rejected it.. |
| 17:31.36 | fudge_ | lol, eh i'll see what happens |
| 17:31.40 | cryptk | PatrickC, if you are root, sudo isn't going to get you anything more |
| 17:31.40 | pcwiz84 | anyone know how Impostah works? |
| 17:31.56 | rwhitby | pcwiz84: nope |
| 17:32.03 | cryptk | pcwiz84, not at all |
| 17:32.05 | zandi | PatrickC: do an ls -l on the folder the executable's in, and see if it's set to be executable |
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| 17:32.28 | zandi | i might be behind on this, i don't know what sort of permissions error you're getting |
| 17:32.29 | cryptk | PatrickC, are you getting any output at all from ssh-keygen? |
| 17:32.39 | scoutcamper | pcwiz84, impostah is black magic |
| 17:32.49 | PatrickC | 1 second, let me run it again to make sure I'm getting it correct |
| 17:33.12 | rwhitby | is still waiting for PatrickC to pastebin an exact log of what he typed and what happened, cause that should be in his first sentence to the channel |
| 17:33.20 | pcwiz84 | scoutcamper, haha very funny |
| 17:33.34 | PatrickC | rwhitby: terminus doesn't let you copy/paste? does it? |
| 17:33.42 | cryptk | PatrickC, novaterm? |
| 17:33.49 | PatrickC | no PC nearby |
| 17:34.00 | rwhitby | doing openssh without a PC nearby is foolhardy |
| 17:34.04 | cryptk | so what are you going to SSH from? |
| 17:34.09 | PatrickC | terminus |
| 17:34.11 | rwhitby | s/openssh/openssh key setup/ |
| 17:34.27 | PatrickC | terminus/xterm |
| 17:34.49 | rwhitby | PatrickC: you never do things the easy way, do you? |
| 17:34.57 | halfhalo | this will end it bloodshed or tears |
| 17:34.58 | PatrickC | nope.. should I wait? lol |
| 17:35.00 | halfhalo | gets popcorn |
| 17:35.13 | cryptk | PatrickC, I would go for the wait personally.. |
| 17:35.15 | pcwiz84 | guess that's a no in general. *sigh* |
| 17:35.33 | rwhitby | pcwiz84: Impostah is open source. |
| 17:35.42 | cryptk | pcwiz84, if you have a more detailed question, we may be able to help, but short of that the source is on git.webos-internals.org |
| 17:35.43 | PatrickC | cryptk: ok.. I'll be at a PC with novaterm in about 30 min to 1 hr |
| 17:36.35 | rwhitby | pcwiz84: and Impostah does about 500 different things. The quality of the answers usually reflects the quality of the question ;) |
| 17:37.03 | cryptk | wonders how close to correct that 500 number is... probably pretty close... |
| 17:37.31 | rwhitby | cryptk: well, I added 5 more uses in the last hour. |
| 17:37.51 | halfhalo | an impostah use a day keeps the webos doctor away. |
| 17:37.57 | cryptk | s/500/505/ |
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| 17:38.56 | pcwiz84 | I see. Well, anyone know how to get all the different selections to work? Only have "connections, app data, app cookies, and web cookies" selectable. |
| 17:39.26 | rwhitby | pcwiz84: some options are only available on webOS 2.x or later |
| 17:39.54 | rwhitby | anyone using Impostah should have meta-doctored to 2.x already |
| 17:42.25 | cryptk | which I might add is pretty easy to do, as long as you follow the correct instructions |
| 17:42.30 | pcwiz84 | I'm using 1.4.5.1 on vz pixi plus w/o any plan. Only rely on wifi, which is @ home so I'm usually good. |
| 17:43.35 | pcwiz84 | does meta-doctoring to 2.x work for Pixi as well? |
| 17:43.36 | scoutcamper | pcwiz84, what do you wish to acomplish with impostah? |
| 17:43.50 | cryptk | rwhitby, correct me if I'm wrong, but much of what Impostah does work by tying into the 2.X database (db8?), which doesn't exist on pre 2.X devices |
| 17:43.58 | rwhitby | correct |
| 17:44.25 | rwhitby | pcwiz84: it does not, since Palm has never released any 2.x for pixi anywhere in the world |
| 17:45.29 | summatusmentis | whoa, I just installed impostah, there are some neat things in here |
| 17:45.35 | pcwiz84 | well, rats. Guess Pixis are sitting in the back of the bus, then. Poot |
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| 17:46.46 | pcwiz84 | +summatusmentis, that's what I thought |
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| 17:48.36 | pcwiz84 | ;-) |
| 17:48.46 | summatusmentis | I should play with this more |
| 17:48.59 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: watch out for the sharp edges |
| 17:49.20 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: yes, by play with, I mean look at all the settings :) |
| 17:49.29 | singmajesty | Hey, just wanted to check again |
| 17:49.43 | singmajesty | So issue with app catalog is that < Pre 2 devices are not allowed to download 2.x apps? |
| 17:49.48 | summatusmentis | does the profile override stuff have the potential to allow me to host my own "HP cloud"? |
| 17:49.53 | singmajesty | Regardless of whether 2.x is installed? |
| 17:49.57 | pcwiz84 | +summatusmentis, do you have 2.x? |
| 17:50.11 | summatusmentis | pcwiz84: I'm runnig a meta-doctored 2.1 on my pre- |
| 17:53.46 | PatrickC | singmajesty: I've insalled 2.x apps on my Pre- |
| 17:53.50 | PatrickC | installed* |
| 17:54.10 | pcwiz84 | well, in other news I can't get wIRC to work for nothin! Keeps telling me it's "waiting for the plugin." any help? I have all the necessary dependencies, so I'm at a loss. |
| 17:55.43 | pcwiz84 | +pcwiz84 |
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| 17:56.23 | RagingMind | does 1.4.5.1 fix the fstab bug? |
| 17:57.41 | cryptk | RagingMind, wow... blast from the past |
| 17:58.09 | oilsworkn | RagingMind: i think it depends if your update was OTA to 145 or from doc |
| 17:58.17 | pcwiz84 | don't think so, cuz in apps that would require that patch installed, it still told me that after 1.4.5.1 was installed. Sorry |
| 17:58.41 | RagingMind | the 145 doc didn't have the bug |
| 17:59.13 | RagingMind | but I'm sure there are still people that ota updated to 1.4.5 and never doctored after and never installed the fixer package |
| 17:59.30 | oilsworkn | im sure |
| 18:01.11 | PatrickC | sadly.. |
| 18:01.41 | pcwiz84 | Maybe I should backup my pixi, and doctor my phone to 1.4.5.1 and see if it makes a difference for those apps like earworm beta. |
| 18:02.19 | oilsworkn | pixi 1451? |
| 18:02.23 | cryptk | pcwiz84, it has been a while, but IIRC, if PDK apps install and run, you don't have the fstab bug |
| 18:02.31 | RagingMind | the fstab bug is easy to check for |
| 18:02.32 | oilsworkn | i thought pixi was 145 forever? |
| 18:02.33 | cryptk | oil, affirm |
| 18:03.02 | cryptk | that and I am pretty sure the fstab fixer package is idempotent, so running it even if you don't have the bug doesn't hurt anything |
| 18:11.13 | fudge_ | any viruses out for webos yet |
| 18:11.23 | rwhitby | just Preware |
| 18:11.38 | cryptk | yep, Preware is a huge one.... infects tons of devices with pure awesome |
| 18:12.05 | PatrickC | downloaded that virus a while ago |
| 18:12.17 | PatrickC | hmm.. I won't remove it.. :) |
| 18:12.34 | cryptk | it has spread to all of my devices... |
| 18:12.39 | oilsworkn | is upgrading the virus to enyo xD |
| 18:12.58 | cryptk | I tried to remove it once, but my phone got... so... booring... |
| 18:13.12 | RagingMind | a pre without preware? :( |
| 18:13.14 | fudge_ | nice |
| 18:13.29 | oilsworkn | is no pre at all |
| 18:13.35 | PatrickC | yeah |
| 18:13.36 | fudge_ | just a ware |
| 18:13.46 | PatrickC | and wares are bad |
| 18:13.54 | fudge_ | should rename preware to prewarez |
| 18:13.58 | fudge_ | sounds more badass |
| 18:14.14 | PatrickC | haha |
| 18:14.14 | summatusmentis | it also insinuates wares |
| 18:14.17 | summatusmentis | warez* |
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| 18:14.21 | summatusmentis | which preware does not do |
| 18:14.25 | halfhalo | sounds like an 11 year old kid named it |
| 18:14.26 | fudge_ | ye |
| 18:14.31 | oilsworkn | well |
| 18:14.35 | oilsworkn | not by default xD |
| 18:14.38 | rwhitby | more badass only if you're a scum sucking pirate |
| 18:14.44 | summatusmentis | oilsworkn: he |
| 18:14.46 | summatusmentis | heh* |
| 18:14.50 | summatusmentis | guh, I cannot type today |
| 18:14.53 | oilsworkn | those chinese feeds |
| 18:14.58 | fudge_ | cleans the scum off his face |
| 18:15.01 | fudge_ | lol if only i missed the s in scum |
| 18:15.01 | fudge_ | ;3 |
| 18:15.34 | halfhalo | there are kids in this channel! like PatrickC... and ... others! |
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| 18:16.34 | PatrickC | I didn't do anything.. |
| 18:17.00 | oilsworkn | exactly |
| 18:17.04 | PatrickC | lol |
| 18:19.48 | cryptk | is it odd that I heard screeching tires exactly when rwhitby became op? |
| 18:20.08 | cryptk | well... within about 30 seconds |
| 18:20.16 | PatrickC | hears tons of screeching tires.. Covert Affairs! |
| 18:20.50 | halfhalo | heres screeching tires whenever he drives in his webos powered car. |
| 18:20.57 | PatrickC | lol |
| 18:21.15 | halfhalo | hears* |
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| 18:22.50 | halfhalo | happens to be crazy driver |
| 18:23.09 | cryptk | my truck is getting upgraded to enyo tomorrow |
| 18:23.21 | cryptk | I can't wait to have the doors be sliding panes... |
| 18:23.59 | oilsworkn | heh |
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| 18:39.28 | fudge_ | is there a flashlight app in webos 2.1? |
| 18:40.28 | PatrickC | for the LED? |
| 18:40.35 | PatrickC | I have one that's out in the catalog |
| 18:40.42 | PatrickC | Just a Flashlight Plus (no LED) |
| 18:41.04 | RagingMind | fudge_, in preware there is called LED Torch |
| 18:41.41 | fudge_ | awesome |
| 18:41.58 | fudge_ | the whole reason why i downgraded back to 1.4.5 was because there was no LED torch :3 |
| 18:42.27 | Loudergood | I use a patch that adds it to the topbar dropdown with the radio controls |
| 18:42.36 | PatrickC | yeah |
| 18:42.38 | PatrickC | same here |
| 18:42.42 | fudge_ | yeah, thats how mine is set up in 1.4.5 |
| 18:42.57 | fudge_ | data usues a heck lot of battery |
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| 18:44.23 | fudge_ | anyone running 2.1 on a pre minus? |
| 18:44.28 | summatusmentis | I am |
| 18:45.08 | PatrickC | same here |
| 18:45.40 | fudge_ | does it run good |
| 18:46.11 | summatusmentis | fudge_: runs pretty well, but my compcache is way up, and I'm running OCd to 1ghz |
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| 18:46.34 | fudge_ | just 3 questions: how many apps can you have open before it lags? Is there any battery life improvements over 1.4.5? Are you able to cetch phone calls? |
| 18:46.40 | RagingMind | fudge_, the LED Torch app works on my 2.1 pre |
| 18:46.47 | fudge_ | nice |
| 18:46.57 | fudge_ | im gonna install 2.1 in a bit, im compling the flash player |
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| 18:47.18 | fudge_ | summatusmentis: isnt the higher the compcache, the less quick the phone can cetch phone calls? |
| 18:47.35 | summatusmentis | fudge_: I've never had an issue |
| 18:47.52 | fudge_ | oh |
| 18:47.59 | summatusmentis | but I suppose that's a possible side effect? |
| 18:48.02 | fudge_ | we will see how all goes |
| 18:48.12 | fudge_ | yea, i read it a while back on precentral |
| 18:48.22 | fudge_ | back when i had my other pre that i sold for a bb |
| 18:48.31 | summatusmentis | I run at 48mb compcache, 1ghz screenstate OC |
| 18:48.42 | fudge_ | gets pretty hot, dosent it |
| 18:48.55 | summatusmentis | not too bad, no |
| 18:49.15 | summatusmentis | I mean, if I play angry birds for an extended period of time, maybe |
| 18:49.22 | scoutcamper | 's Pre2 stays nice and cool at 1ghz :D |
| 18:49.25 | fudge_ | nice |
| 18:49.42 | fudge_ | battery life must be horribad with the 1ghz OC tho |
| 18:50.17 | fudge_ | are you able to go a whole day with one charge, summatusmentis? |
| 18:50.18 | RagingMind | you need to OC if you're gonna compcache. without it a pre+/- just lags too much |
| 18:50.25 | fudge_ | oh |
| 18:50.26 | fudge_ | lol |
| 18:50.46 | summatusmentis | fudge_: no, not a full day, I carry a second battery |
| 18:50.52 | RagingMind | I missed calls, couldn't use touch tone menus... stuff like that until I disabled compcache |
| 18:51.08 | fudge_ | ^exactly what im talking about |
| 18:51.12 | PatrickC | I OC to 1.1GHz |
| 18:51.46 | summatusmentis | oh, I see, yeah, I definitely OC while I use compcache |
| 18:52.15 | RagingMind | without compcache it can still be a pain to use some phone menu systems at times when my phone decides it's "busy" but is is a lot better |
| 18:52.35 | RagingMind | and I just installed a couple extra patches... we'll see if they help more :) |
| 18:54.10 | fudge_ | which ones |
| 18:55.18 | RagingMind | they decrease the level of logging that the system does, but the forums have a couple reports of odd behavior |
| 18:57.16 | PatrickC | hrmm.. any reason the web browser on my pre2 would stop working? |
| 18:57.34 | PatrickC | nothing that uses a webview works.. I even tried universe |
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| 19:15.39 | PatrickC | anyone on my previous question? |
| 19:15.56 | PatrickC | I just rebooted twice and the browser still doesn't work |
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| 19:16.31 | scoutcamper | webos doctor |
| 19:17.03 | PatrickC | that's a little harsh? isn't it? |
| 19:17.45 | scoutcamper | meh |
| 19:18.30 | PatrickC | would packaging/re-installing possibly work? |
| 19:18.42 | scoutcamper | doctor is eaisier |
| 19:19.18 | PatrickC | not for me, too much stuff on here.. |
| 19:20.29 | PatrickC | http://www.zumodrive.com/share/dpk0OGUwYz |
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| 19:22.35 | PatrickC | scoutcamper: any idea what might cause that? |
| 19:24.04 | scoutcamper | no clue |
| 19:24.09 | scoutcamper | never happened to me |
| 19:24.16 | PatrickC | grr.. |
| 19:24.20 | PatrickC | thanks though |
| 19:24.52 | PatrickC | not even Universe works |
| 19:25.07 | halfhalo | doctor |
| 19:25.22 | PatrickC | eh, too evasive... |
| 19:25.34 | PatrickC | I want to avoid that as much as possible.. |
| 19:30.07 | PatrickC | looks like I might have to doctor... |
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| 19:36.01 | fudge_ | so i finally flashed my phone to 2.1. now i cant sign into my profile |
| 19:36.06 | fudge_ | neither can i make a new one |
| 19:36.14 | fudge_ | what do i do at this point? |
| 19:36.33 | PatrickC | EV connection? |
| 19:36.51 | fudge_ | yeah |
| 19:36.53 | fudge_ | got that |
| 19:37.04 | PatrickC | backup wipe first? |
| 19:37.25 | fudge_ | turned off backup before flashing |
| 19:37.33 | PatrickC | hrmm.. |
| 19:37.37 | PatrickC | not sure then |
| 19:38.11 | fudge_ | says |
| 19:38.22 | fudge_ | "We are unable to sign you in" |
| 19:38.26 | PatrickC | what script did you use? what Os did you build it with? |
| 19:38.51 | fudge_ | used sprint script |
| 19:39.01 | fudge_ | ubuntu |
| 19:39.09 | PatrickC | hrmm.. no idea.. sorry |
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| 19:39.26 | PatrickC | I just built one the other day and it worked perfectly |
| 19:39.37 | fudge_ | did you masq it? |
| 19:40.03 | PatrickC | it auto masq's it |
| 19:40.25 | PatrickC | the script does it all |
| 19:40.37 | fudge_ | oh |
| 19:40.39 | fudge_ | i wonder why |
| 19:40.45 | PatrickC | why what? |
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| 19:41.02 | fudge_ | did you apply any patches? |
| 19:41.20 | PatrickC | patches as in the makefile? |
| 19:41.43 | fudge_ | yea |
| 19:41.52 | fudge_ | did you apply the remove carrier check |
| 19:41.58 | PatrickC | nope |
| 19:42.06 | PatrickC | no need to |
| 19:42.12 | fudge_ | i applied that |
| 19:42.22 | PatrickC | that might have broke it.. |
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| 19:42.29 | fudge_ | hmm... lemme compile one without anything |
| 19:43.02 | PatrickC | ok |
| 19:43.28 | PatrickC | backs up phone... |
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| 19:45.54 | fudge_ | probably, im compiling another one right now |
| 19:46.23 | PatrickC | I'm backing up my phone.. needs to visit the doctor |
| 19:47.21 | fudge_ | lol |
| 19:47.31 | fudge_ | i wonder why im not able to log into my profile |
| 19:48.26 | PatrickC | idk |
| 19:48.32 | PatrickC | my browser broke: http://www.zumodrive.com/share/dpk0OGUwYz |
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| 20:40.09 | shep1234 | could somebody please /msg me the linphone download instructions thanks... |
| 20:41.42 | summatusmentis | none of us have that access except rwhitby, and he's sleeping right now |
| 20:45.30 | shep1234 | ok thanks i'll try later |
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| 20:47.43 | fudge_ | finally got it to login |
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| 22:19.17 | PuffTheMagic | You know you have a good job when your office break room as a dual tap kegerator |
| 22:19.36 | zandi | i'm jealous |
| 22:19.44 | zandi | we just have free water and coffee |
| 22:22.24 | r2xj | whaaaat. we need one of those here... |
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| 22:49.44 | Ted__ | Hello. |
| 22:50.19 | PatrickC | hello Ted__ |
| 22:50.31 | Lumiere | PuffTheMagic: or you have a full soda fountain with 8 different flavors for free in addition to coffee |
| 22:50.40 | Ted__ | I'm having a little bit of trouble with a meta doctor, could you, or anyone, be kind enough to lend a hand? |
| 22:50.56 | PatrickC | did you read the *entire* wiki page? |
| 22:52.15 | Ted__ | Yes, but I'm trying to do something a little bit...odd. I've put a AT&T Coms Board in a Sprint Pre, and I'm using the command: "./scripts/test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.-" |
| 22:52.43 | PatrickC | that's to make a sprint pre2 if I'm not mistaken.. |
| 22:53.00 | Ted__ | Rod told me that it would work, but upon using it, either the doctor doesn't recognize the Pre, or it tells me my pre is not compatable. |
| 22:53.21 | Ted__ | Rod told me that command would work in my case, (AT&T coms board in a Sprint Pre) |
| 22:53.46 | PatrickC | Ted__: talk to rwhitby I have no clue.. sorry :/ |
| 22:54.21 | Ted__ | It's okay, thanks for just trying to help. :) It's very much apprciated. |
| 22:54.43 | Ted__ | I was actually hopeing he was poking around somewhere in this chat. |
| 22:55.38 | r2xj | Ted__: you usin a mac by chance? |
| 22:55.43 | PuffTheMagic | Lumiere, no beer > soda |
| 22:56.01 | Lumiere | PuffTheMagic: I agree, but soda > buying more |
| 22:56.09 | Ted__ | No, I'm using a PC, but I'm running Ubuntu. |
| 22:56.23 | PatrickC | Ted__: he's sleeping iirc |
| 22:56.56 | Ted__ | Ah, okay, I'll try again later. I'm in no rush, this is just a side-project. |
| 22:58.15 | r2xj | Ted__: it was worth a shot, i metadoctored left and right with my stock pre, but as soon as I tried franken i got the same issue, had to reinstall the novacom drivers for some reason. I also have a spint pre- with a GSM comms board sitting at my house, maybe ill try messin with it later and letting you know if i have any issues |
| 22:58.45 | Ted__ | Alright, that would be greatly appreciated mate! |
| 22:59.11 | Ted__ | I've read somewhere that if I take "test" out of the script, that it may run correctly, so I'll have to see. |
| 22:59.25 | Ted__ | Just out of curisity, the "radio" of the phone is indeed the coms board, yes? |
| 22:59.39 | r2xj | yeah |
| 23:00.03 | Ted__ | Okay, because how I came across this Sprint Pre is because my buddy said it had a burnt radio, and wouldn't doctor. |
| 23:00.27 | Ted__ | But I figured the AT&T board would fix that problem, just wanted to make sure! |
| 23:00.28 | Ted__ | Thanks! |
| 23:01.14 | r2xj | yeah, strange. my pre- with the gsm board boots fine (w/no service) but i havent tried redoctoring it yet |
| 23:01.31 | r2xj | im heading home tho, so ill give it a shot and jump back on |
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| 23:01.38 | r2xj | later |
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