| 00:02.37 | Cerealklr | Mmkay, i'm off to get some exercise and do some much needed thinking. Something about the best code being done > 10m from a computer. =P Cya! |
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| 00:09.04 | Abyssul-Pre | Does anyone have their Pre- slow down immensly when they get a text message? |
| 00:09.42 | Abyssul-Pre | Might see if doctoring will help |
| 00:09.52 | Loudergood | any patches? |
| 00:10.23 | Abyssul-Pre | indeed, webos 2.1 as well |
| 00:10.39 | Abyssul-Pre | uk kernel |
| 00:11.59 | Abyssul-Pre | also have trouble takes pics with camera. used to work perfectly after the uk update to fix it |
| 00:12.22 | Abyssul-Pre | just thought I would ask if anyone had any ideas as to the issue |
| 00:15.09 | Loudergood | new to me |
| 00:17.33 | PatrickC | Abyssul-Pre: try f104 |
| 00:17.45 | PatrickC | I have no issues with F104 |
| 00:18.27 | Abyssul-Pre | ill try it but last time I tried it wouldnt even open the camera app. |
| 00:19.01 | PatrickC | hmm |
| 00:19.16 | PatrickC | if F104 doesn't work, I would try a doctor |
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| 01:45.31 | webostoandroid | where do i download 2.2? |
| 01:46.42 | ka6sox-away | android or webos? |
| 01:48.57 | IGNTNUNLMTD | with a name like that, he's looking for trouble |
| 01:49.02 | IGNTNUNLMTD | in one way or another |
| 01:49.10 | halfhalo | yup |
| 01:52.47 | ka6sox-away | yup |
| 01:52.50 | ka6sox-away | no kidding. |
| 01:53.18 | webostoandroid | webos |
| 01:53.20 | webostoandroid | XD |
| 01:53.44 | ka6sox-away | do you have a webos device? |
| 01:53.58 | uNiXpSyChO | i have it 2.2 |
| 01:54.09 | uNiXpSyChO | oops. wrong window |
| 01:54.13 | uNiXpSyChO | ;-) |
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| 01:54.36 | webostoandroid | yep |
| 01:54.48 | webostoandroid | where can i just download it? |
| 01:56.08 | IGNTNUNLMTD | <redneck voice>You looking to start some trouble with that name, boy?</redneck voice> |
| 01:56.41 | webostoandroid | no⦠lolâ¦. i just typed in webostoandroid to say that webos trumps android... |
| 01:56.44 | webostoandroid | have faith in me |
| 01:56.45 | webostoandroid | lol |
| 01:57.05 | uNiXpSyChO | failure |
| 01:57.08 | ka6sox-away | we think differently around these parts. |
| 01:57.21 | ka6sox-away | looks like moving from webos TO android. |
| 01:57.26 | webostoandroid | good |
| 01:57.31 | webostoandroid | i can stop lying now |
| 01:57.45 | webostoandroid | i am trying to port webOS to my android, well, to everyones android |
| 01:57.56 | ka6sox-away | I see.... |
| 01:58.01 | uNiXpSyChO | smells a troll |
| 01:58.26 | webostoandroid | im not trolling.... |
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| 01:58.43 | IGNTNUNLMTD | and guess what? that's illegal. |
| 01:58.49 | webostoandroid | oh. |
| 01:58.51 | webostoandroid | nevermind then |
| 01:58.52 | webostoandroid | lol |
| 01:59.06 | ka6sox-away | okay I'll ask it...why? |
| 01:59.22 | IGNTNUNLMTD | why is it illegal? |
| 01:59.30 | webostoandroid | the license |
| 01:59.33 | webostoandroid | right? |
| 01:59.37 | webostoandroid | why not lol? |
| 01:59.42 | IGNTNUNLMTD | yes. because it isn't open source |
| 01:59.45 | webostoandroid | its just a proof of concept |
| 01:59.46 | ka6sox-away | nm...missing point |
| 01:59.49 | webostoandroid | dang |
| 01:59.52 | webostoandroid | hmmmmm |
| 02:00.14 | IGNTNUNLMTD | rod whitby had to throw down against some idiots on XDA a few months back... remember that? |
| 02:00.22 | webostoandroid | no i dont |
| 02:00.27 | webostoandroid | but thanks for telling me, guys! |
| 02:00.43 | webostoandroid | good info to know before i waste my time on an illegal port |
| 02:00.45 | IGNTNUNLMTD | yeah, search XDA developers, there was a thread about this |
| 02:00.52 | webostoandroid | okay |
| 02:00.56 | IGNTNUNLMTD | some guys tried porting it to the Hero |
| 02:01.19 | IGNTNUNLMTD | and Rod Whitby stepped in and told them no, as he should of |
| 02:01.22 | IGNTNUNLMTD | have* |
| 02:01.31 | webostoandroid | thanks for telling me |
| 02:01.38 | IGNTNUNLMTD | mhm. |
| 02:02.04 | uNiXpSyChO | not sure why n00bs think it's so easy to port webos to another device |
| 02:02.12 | webostoandroid | not a noob... |
| 02:02.16 | webostoandroid | lol.. but its fine |
| 02:02.22 | uNiXpSyChO | oh? and you were asking for 2.2? |
| 02:02.48 | webostoandroid | ? |
| 02:02.55 | uNiXpSyChO | and how can you port webos to android? Android is an OS, not a device. |
| 02:03.00 | IGNTNUNLMTD | lol |
| 02:03.16 | webostoandroid | webos is an os? |
| 02:03.16 | uNiXpSyChO | webos 2.2 doesnt exist. if it does it's buried in palm somewhere. |
| 02:03.24 | uNiXpSyChO | damn kids |
| 02:03.26 | webostoandroid | on the hp veer? |
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| 02:03.42 | IGNTNUNLMTD | nope, 2.1.5 |
| 02:03.49 | uNiXpSyChO | looks for a troll grenade |
| 02:04.22 | webostoandroid | shipped with 2.2 my friends |
| 02:05.03 | uNiXpSyChO | i'm running 3.0 |
| 02:05.17 | IGNTNUNLMTD | uNiXpSyChO: Ë'(BAN) <- there's your grenade |
| 02:05.23 | IGNTNUNLMTD | now pull the pin |
| 02:05.28 | IGNTNUNLMTD | and get it over with |
| 02:05.30 | IGNTNUNLMTD | :) |
| 02:05.42 | webostoandroid | http://mobilephonecheap.blogspot.com/2011/02/hp-veer-specs-smallest-webos-22.html |
| 02:06.06 | IGNTNUNLMTD | oh, wow, because "MOBILE PHONE CHEAP" is a reliable information source |
| 02:06.11 | IGNTNUNLMTD | cool, good work. |
| 02:06.53 | uNiXpSyChO | doesnt matter... the troll asked to download 2.2... it doesnt exist. only up to 2.1 |
| 02:06.58 | webostoandroid | lol go on the att website or engadget bro |
| 02:07.04 | IGNTNUNLMTD | "bro"? |
| 02:07.06 | IGNTNUNLMTD | cool. |
| 02:07.17 | IGNTNUNLMTD | yeah, the actual version number on the doctor is 2.1.2 |
| 02:07.54 | IGNTNUNLMTD | Engadget knows as much about mobile technology as my 16 year old brother... "OH COOL BIG SCREEN" |
| 02:07.58 | webostoandroid | hp has a phone called the doctor? |
| 02:08.11 | IGNTNUNLMTD | <insert eyeroll here> |
| 02:08.11 | webostoandroid | and whats all this talk of palm i hear? who are they? |
| 02:08.13 | IGNTNUNLMTD | back to Python |
| 02:08.18 | webostoandroid | hm |
| 02:08.19 | webostoandroid | > |
| 02:08.21 | uNiXpSyChO | hand is itching on the pin |
| 02:08.23 | webostoandroid | like the snake? |
| 02:08.40 | IGNTNUNLMTD | oh just do it already |
| 02:08.46 | IGNTNUNLMTD | it's not like anyone will miss him |
| 02:08.47 | IGNTNUNLMTD | :P |
| 02:09.17 | webostoandroid | Well if theres a snake you guys better tell me |
| 02:09.24 | IGNTNUNLMTD | more because I want to hear the sound in colloquy |
| 02:09.26 | IGNTNUNLMTD | :P |
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| 02:17.59 | NuttyBunny | PuffTheMagic: The correct expression for your last tweet, in mexican spanish, would be "NO PINCHES MAMES" or something like "no fucking kidding!" |
| 02:18.49 | webostoandroid | boy do i love my android phone |
| 02:20.05 | ka6sox-away | have fun! |
| 02:20.10 | ka6sox-away | I'm outta here... |
| 02:20.16 | ka6sox-away | got webos stuff to do. |
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| 02:22.06 | halfhalo | webos stuff in a webos channel? don't make me laugh |
| 02:22.32 | ka6sox-away | ~lart halfhalo |
| 02:22.32 | infobot | beats halfhalo over the head with a microkernel |
| 02:22.43 | IGNTNUNLMTD | lol |
| 02:22.51 | IGNTNUNLMTD | uNiXpSyChO: what's the strike count? |
| 02:23.03 | halfhalo | its only a microkernel, didn't hurt |
| 02:23.05 | uNiXpSyChO | 2 |
| 02:23.28 | uNiXpSyChO | has to open a bottle of MD20/20 |
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| 02:23.52 | uNiXpSyChO | looking like strike 3 coming |
| 02:24.07 | rwhitby | morning |
| 02:24.12 | webostoandroid | so long guys, and thanks for all the fish |
| 02:24.16 | halfhalo | morning |
| 02:24.20 | uNiXpSyChO | troll |
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| 02:24.56 | halfhalo | is leaving when someon gets opped a foul? hmmm |
| 02:25.11 | ka6sox-away | no |
| 02:25.28 | rwhitby | So, what's the cheapest way to get a Veer right now? |
| 02:26.03 | rwhitby | $400 off-contract from AT&T, locked? |
| 02:26.06 | SineOt | five finger discount |
| 02:26.15 | halfhalo | that's what it looks like |
| 02:26.36 | rwhitby | Should be able to #*DEVMODE# it and then Impostah activate it for US and wifi-only. |
| 02:26.50 | halfhalo | yup |
| 02:27.13 | rwhitby | What's the lead time for that option? Can someone walk in off the street and get one without having to be an AT&T customer? |
| 02:27.17 | bpadalino | rwhitby: $350 from amazon with no service ? |
| 02:27.27 | halfhalo | let's see... if I time this right, I can pick one up Monday in addition to the wp7 focus friday |
| 02:27.46 | SineOt | I'm fairly sure they can, rwhitby, but I think it may take some hassle to get them to sell one off contract |
| 02:27.49 | Loudergood | bpadalino: I think that's it |
| 02:28.49 | halfhalo | amazon has a lead time, don't they? with att you just walk in the store |
| 02:29.04 | bpadalino | apparently an 8-9 day backordering .. |
| 02:29.25 | SineOt | at the worst I think Amazon's lead time would be the 1 day for shipping out, but if it is on back order then there's that to factor in on too |
| 02:29.50 | halfhalo | I'm pretty much stuck with online or in store with whatever phone I get on contract due to student discount |
| 02:30.30 | bpadalino | MSRP from att store is $450 |
| 02:31.29 | halfhalo | then amazon is def the way to go, esp with no tax |
| 02:31.43 | rwhitby | but we're talking two weeks lead time |
| 02:31.54 | halfhalo | true |
| 02:32.20 | bpadalino | $450 MSRP from BB too .. surprisingly enough, bb's website is saying $0 on contract ? |
| 02:32.39 | rwhitby | I wonder if AT&T staff can get it cheaper off-contract. |
| 02:33.06 | halfhalo | the question becomes whether its worth it to get the device two weeks early for 100 bucks... which is a no in my case |
| 02:34.07 | bpadalino | i wonder if you bought it retail if they would give you the unlock code immediately |
| 02:34.18 | halfhalo | I doubt it |
| 02:34.42 | halfhalo | I'm betting 6 months |
| 02:38.28 | halfhalo | you know... its almost cheaper to just get a family plan with two lines than get the device off contract... |
| 02:38.58 | bpadalino | really??? how? |
| 02:40.44 | rwhitby | bpadalino: I'd be using it wifi only anyway for development |
| 02:40.58 | halfhalo | wait, thinking of a one year contract which would break even due to rate discounts |
| 02:41.01 | rwhitby | so not really concerned about the cellular details |
| 02:41.29 | bpadalino | rwhitby: understandable - just more of a business query than anything |
| 02:44.16 | halfhalo | dang. the focus is 500 off contract, so getting that subsidized instead of the veer. |
| 02:50.13 | halfhalo | lol... att lists australia as australasia in their wifi hotspot locator |
| 02:50.31 | rwhitby | australasia is short for .au and .nz |
| 02:50.46 | rwhitby | like north america including canada |
| 02:51.00 | halfhalo | only is showing .au everywhere else |
| 02:51.07 | halfhalo | but good to know |
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| 03:00.41 | halfhalo | shall go by att store tomorrow to play with veer |
| 03:02.07 | oil | "the what?" |
| 03:05.08 | halfhalo | Thewhatnow |
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| 08:01.40 | Jack87 | is sad that the new devices dont have TI processors in them |
| 08:02.09 | ka6sox-away | wait till they brick with an OTA upgrade... |
| 08:02.50 | Jack87 | haha the qualecoms? |
| 08:03.17 | Jack87 | Qualcomm* |
| 08:06.58 | Jack87 | pixi has survived so maybe there is hope |
| 08:07.41 | Jack87 | destinal, are the Qualcomm's as "unbrickable" as the TIs? |
| 08:24.00 | rwhitby | Jack87: no |
| 08:25.29 | Jack87 | rwhitby, sad |
| 08:25.42 | ka6sox-away | very |
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| 09:48.57 | mpingu | hi |
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| 11:03.11 | NuttyBunny_Pre2 | rwhitby: Impostah should in theory support wifi activations on the veer, shoundn't it? v |
| 11:03.15 | NuttyBunny_Pre2 | http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?f=326&t=282562 |
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| 14:40.19 | NuttyBunny | Hey, are we already installing the Veer 2.1.2 on our Pres? :) |
| 14:41.34 | PatrickC | if you can.. DO IT :D |
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| 14:42.02 | PatrickC | I'll do it with you :) |
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| 14:42.17 | NuttyBunny | if the device name doesn't match, we're screwed, and it will probably be the case... |
| 14:42.30 | RagingMind | is there any reason to do that? |
| 14:42.36 | PatrickC | change the device name |
| 14:42.44 | NuttyBunny | RagingMind: Just for fun |
| 14:42.53 | NuttyBunny | PatrickC: No, the device type |
| 14:43.06 | PatrickC | can't you change that? |
| 14:43.23 | NuttyBunny | mmm... I don't explain myself... stupid brain, unfreeze!!! |
| 14:43.38 | PatrickC | haha |
| 14:43.51 | NuttyBunny | the kernel modules have to match the kernel name, exactly, otherwise they refuse to load |
| 14:44.09 | PatrickC | oh |
| 14:44.29 | NuttyBunny | Pre/Pre+ = "joplin", Pixi="chuck", Pre2=joplin as well |
| 14:46.03 | RagingMind | NuttyBunny, the proprietary kernel modules? |
| 14:46.51 | NuttyBunny | RagingMind: yep |
| 14:47.11 | NuttyBunny | ah, we're pretty much screwed |
| 14:47.19 | NuttyBunny | uImage-2.6.29-palm-shank |
| 14:47.33 | RagingMind | ...shank? |
| 14:48.00 | NuttyBunny | yep, new build name... and new kernel version as well |
| 14:48.31 | NuttyBunny | Of course, I *could* leave the old modules there, and the old kernel, but I doubt it will even boot |
| 14:48.32 | halfhalo | heh.... shank |
| 14:48.41 | NuttyBunny | skunk |
| 14:50.25 | PatrickC | lol |
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| 15:09.24 | NuttyBunny | Argh.. too lazy... ANYONE HERE HAS A VEER? :) |
| 15:14.45 | RichT23 | NuttyBunny: nope i think i would like one though |
| 15:15.15 | RichT23 | i read stuff that they might already have GSM/g3 compatable with the UK |
| 15:16.00 | RichT23 | though i take what "Palm" says with a pinch of slat these days |
| 15:16.01 | NuttyBunny | RichT23: Pretty nifty little phones, aren't they? :D I might as well grab one, just for the fun of showing it off to my gf, she got a X10 Mini Pro... same processor as the Pixi.. :S |
| 15:16.37 | RichT23 | i sould have my Pixi back again in the next few days |
| 15:16.56 | RichT23 | this time hopefully with the corect firmware |
| 15:17.26 | RichT23 | probally with the dent in it still though =( |
| 15:21.38 | PatrickC | RichT23: what happened to it? |
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| 15:23.18 | RichT23 | It just died one day... sent it of for repair they replaced the screen |
| 15:23.40 | RichT23 | and flashed it with some image from another provider |
| 15:23.40 | PatrickC | they =? palm? |
| 15:23.50 | RichT23 | so i could not use my O2 UK sim in it |
| 15:24.01 | RichT23 | yes Palm... |
| 15:24.12 | PatrickC | ah |
| 15:24.29 | RichT23 | but afterwards it had a 'small' dent in the face plate |
| 15:24.39 | PatrickC | I take mine to sprint (well took) but they're a US based CDMA company |
| 15:27.01 | RichT23 | Mine was sent to the uk repair center for palm |
| 15:27.20 | RichT23 | some company that Palm subcontract the work too |
| 15:27.32 | RichT23 | they seem to do lots of phone repair work |
| 15:28.28 | PatrickC | mine has always been repaired/replaced by my carrier |
| 15:29.26 | RichT23 | I see... |
| 15:30.07 | RichT23 | ya not sure why it was palm in this case... i had just spoken to palm support trying to find out what was up with it... they then said i should send it back to them |
| 15:30.51 | PatrickC | O2 you say.. |
| 15:30.55 | PatrickC | yeah.. I find it weird |
| 15:37.26 | RichT23 | I never really liked O2, they are the only carrier for newer Palm's though |
| 15:39.51 | NuttyBunny | ah, found the partitions :D (ass).. hahahaha... broadway.xml, on the doctor |
| 15:40.37 | NuttyBunny | Damn!!! 504Mb of Swap space??!!!! |
| 15:41.05 | PatrickC | thinks nuttybunny likes bricking his phone :D |
| 15:45.16 | NuttyBunny | Well, seems like the only significant change is to grow the swap to 504mb |
| 15:45.25 | PatrickC | good/bad? |
| 15:45.43 | NuttyBunny | good, it's almost the same partition scheme as 2.1.0 |
| 15:46.53 | RichT23 | thats a lot of swap space for a little phone |
| 15:46.55 | RagingMind | that would make sense |
| 15:46.56 | NuttyBunny | "bad" because I "only" have 5.5gb for media, and 4.7 for shr |
| 15:47.32 | NuttyBunny | I don't think it's a good idea to play with the Minus, I'll do it on the Plus.. hehehe |
| 15:48.35 | RagingMind | so... does anyone in here understand the OTA process in webos 2? |
| 15:49.05 | NuttyBunny | RagingMind: Do you really want to look at it? there are several files that get run |
| 15:49.09 | RagingMind | would it be possible to trick a phone into updating, say from 2.1 to 2.2 if the update is not actually provided by the network? |
| 15:49.36 | RagingMind | just wondering if I'll have to doctor my phone for each new update... *sigh* |
| 15:49.55 | NuttyBunny | It could be done, but we need some files that are downloaded from the network, and well, I don't know that they do contain :) |
| 15:50.28 | RagingMind | it would be nifty if we could take 2 doctors, package up the differences, and apply them to a phone |
| 15:51.14 | RagingMind | though I imagine ota updates might have special scripts that would need to be run if any of the data structures needed changing? *shrugs* |
| 15:56.49 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: let me know what you come up with :) |
| 15:57.00 | PatrickC | I'll happily brick one of my phones to help haha |
| 16:02.10 | NuttyBunny | RagingMind: The update scripts ARE in the Doctor, the problem is an update file... that I can't find its name.. argh |
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| 16:02.50 | NuttyBunny | data.tar.xz |
| 16:03.29 | NuttyBunny | it should contain the files that get updated from X to Y version, including boot files and other if they apply |
| 16:04.10 | NuttyBunny | but we should get our hands on one of these files.............. or... maybe Impostah can "learn" to download update images :D |
| 16:04.14 | NuttyBunny | grins evilly |
| 16:04.19 | PatrickC | haha |
| 16:04.59 | RagingMind | NuttyBunny, can't we just look at 2 doctors and see what's updated? |
| 16:04.59 | NuttyBunny | Of course, I don't have time right now, so I'll just try to slap the 2.1.2 rootfs on my Plus |
| 16:05.50 | NuttyBunny | RagingMind: Yes, we can, but we need to know exactly what that files should be changed |
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| 16:12.00 | PatrickC | 's pre- has a massive oreo effect :'( |
| 16:13.31 | PatrickC | and the easy fix doesnt fix ita |
| 16:13.43 | PatrickC | and I don't want to mess with the tabs/hinges |
| 16:14.46 | NuttyBunny | mine has a 2mm max oreo |
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| 16:16.19 | PatrickC | I think mines bigger then that :/ |
| 16:18.52 | PatrickC | mines 1/16in.. |
| 16:20.17 | NuttyBunny | About 1.6mm :P |
| 16:20.53 | PatrickC | lol |
| 16:28.36 | NuttyBunny | uncompressing rootfs now |
| 16:31.25 | PatrickC | let me know how bad you brick it :P |
| 16:31.57 | NuttyBunny | I hope not as bad as the Pixi :D |
| 16:33.03 | PatrickC | haha |
| 16:33.03 | PatrickC | or as bad as my pre2 lol |
| 16:33.36 | NuttyBunny | I'm skipping the modem updater :D |
| 16:33.43 | PatrickC | kicks SHR |
| 16:33.48 | PatrickC | lol |
| 16:33.53 | PatrickC | making a meta-doctor??? :) |
| 16:35.00 | NuttyBunny | me? meta doctor? nah |
| 16:35.07 | NuttyBunny | not yet |
| 16:35.16 | PatrickC | haha |
| 16:35.24 | PatrickC | I'm talking could it be made a script? |
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| 16:36.24 | NuttyBunny | ok, here we go, reboot... let's see how much it takes to crash :D |
| 16:36.31 | PatrickC | haha |
| 16:36.47 | PatrickC | brb |
| 16:37.27 | NuttyBunny | face PALMs himself... of course it won't boot with the new kernel! :@ |
| 16:38.46 | Loudergood | lol |
| 16:39.24 | NuttyBunny | I thought of switching to the previous kernel and I forgot to do it :) |
| 16:41.20 | NuttyBunny | %&#"%$#"%$ stupid bootr... I forgot to remove it :D |
| 16:43.12 | NuttyBunny | mmm... FLASHING LOGO???? |
| 16:43.33 | NuttyBunny | it stopped flashing... |
| 16:43.36 | NuttyBunny | wtf |
| 16:44.36 | NuttyBunny | And... flasing again |
| 16:52.18 | NuttyBunny | well, pulseaudio dies :( |
| 16:57.29 | PatrickC | so. no-go atm? |
| 16:58.21 | PatrickC | pre2 cruzin along at 600MHz |
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| 17:00.01 | PatrickC | hmm |
| 17:00.20 | PatrickC | how do I get Govnah to display the temp on the icon after I close Govnah? |
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| 17:13.09 | NuttyBunny | I wonder... why the hell didn't I backup my Plus before the attempt?... |
| 17:13.19 | PatrickC | lol |
| 17:13.31 | NuttyBunny | yeah, now I'll have to doctor it :S |
| 17:13.52 | PatrickC | crap |
| 17:14.24 | PatrickC | so... |
| 17:14.29 | PatrickC | I guess it didn't boot |
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| 17:51.09 | NuttyBunny | doctoring my Plus.. I need it in running state |
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| 18:19.13 | Cerealklr | hey all |
| 18:20.04 | Cerealklr | I see you've managed to brick everything short of your computer in the past few days, Nutty? =] How's it going with those? |
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| 18:31.26 | NuttyBunny | Cerealklr: Both the Pixi and the Pre+ were restored successfully |
| 18:31.31 | Cerealklr | Wooo! |
| 18:32.26 | Cerealklr | I sort of imagined it being a more drawn out process from the horror stories I've heard from other mobile OS's. =P What ended up being the trick with the Pixi? |
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| 18:34.57 | NuttyBunny | Cerealklr: No idea, I just tried it again today and it worked |
| 18:35.19 | Cerealklr | Heh, well I guess there's something to be said for persistence! |
| 18:35.38 | NuttyBunny | So, going from 2.1 to 1.4.5 works with a Doctor, that's fine, now, I just have to make a script for the 2.1 |
| 18:36.27 | Cerealklr | So trying to upgrade my minus is now pre-eminently recoverable? |
| 18:37.28 | NuttyBunny | yep |
| 18:37.47 | Cerealklr | Guess I know what i'll be doing before dinner then. =] |
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| 18:42.55 | PatrickC | did anyone see my preware link? |
| 18:43.02 | PatrickC | I don't know if it went through |
| 18:43.04 | SineOt | no |
| 18:43.19 | PatrickC | http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee477/patrickc14/preware_2011-17-05_131636.png |
| 18:43.28 | PatrickC | preware won't even install now |
| 18:43.55 | PatrickC | nothing will install |
| 18:46.51 | NuttyBunny | ah, yes, install it using palm-install |
| 18:46.58 | NuttyBunny | it's the supported method |
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| 18:48.11 | joem_work | pfft... |
| 18:48.25 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: tried that |
| 18:48.27 | joem_work | my pops just sent me a message, he's getting a pre-release touchpad |
| 18:48.32 | PatrickC | and I also tried with webOSQI |
| 18:48.40 | joem_work | i wonder if it has webos 3 on there |
| 18:48.45 | PatrickC | it will |
| 18:48.49 | joem_work | suwheet |
| 18:48.49 | PatrickC | send me one too :P |
| 18:48.50 | NuttyBunny | Use Linux to create your Doctor |
| 18:48.55 | PatrickC | I did |
| 18:48.59 | NuttyBunny | LOL |
| 18:49.02 | NuttyBunny | I know :P |
| 18:49.08 | Cerealklr | tell him if he sends it to me i'll check if it has WebOS 3 on it for him |
| 18:49.11 | Cerealklr | =] |
| 18:49.16 | joem_work | thats what i told him, tell his office tablet devs he needs a few for... "testing" |
| 18:49.16 | PatrickC | haha |
| 18:49.16 | joem_work | hehe |
| 18:49.25 | joem_work | Cerealklr: hehe |
| 18:49.37 | NuttyBunny | PatrickC: Redo your doctor, and disable the preware installation |
| 18:49.49 | PatrickC | grr |
| 18:49.52 | PatrickC | ok.. fine |
| 18:50.01 | thor968 | Good morning, evening or what ever :-) |
| 18:50.02 | PatrickC | I'll have to doctor later |
| 18:50.05 | PatrickC | haha |
| 18:50.52 | thor968 | Does anybody knows if there are any news of a new LinPhone-version for webOS? |
| 18:54.11 | PatrickC | well.. g2g |
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| 19:33.44 | RagingMind | thor968, it looks like development has stalled a bit |
| 19:41.29 | thor968 | Yes, seems to be like this. |
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| 20:00.44 | NuttyBunny | Anyone knows what luna-send command should be sent to take a screenshot of the screen? :D |
| 20:02.13 | NuttyBunny | luna-send luna://com.palm.systemmanager/takeScreenShot '{"file":"screenshot.png"}' <- cool |
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| 20:44.42 | MrMicroChip | Does anyone know if the "Verizon FrankenPre 2" meta script for 2.1.0 works for the Unlocked Pre 2 or the actual Verizon Pre 2 or both. It implies the unlocked Pre 2 (I am not sure they are the same phone)? |
| 20:45.25 | Loudergood | the unlocked one is the gsm one sold directly by HP and given away as a developer device |
| 20:49.21 | MrMicroChip | I would agree, so that makes my assumption that the Verizon FrankenPre 2 meta-script is for that phone and not the one sold be Verizon. However since it is not listed separately and when viewing the script, it may be that it works for both. So anyone know for sure? |
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| 20:56.22 | Loudergood | the franken part is key |
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| 20:56.50 | Loudergood | it's for people that take a preplus cdma back and put it on an unlocked phone |
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| 21:06.01 | NuttyBunny | morphis: the fso-installer makefile has another bug (at least), it checks the media size for both pre and pre+ for the same size, it doesn't work correctly for the Plus, it complains that 13G is an incorrect value... I'll send a patch in a mometn |
| 21:10.48 | morphis | NuttyBunny: ok, please send it |
| 21:10.55 | morphis | I will be go to bed now |
| 21:10.56 | morphis | gn8 |
| 21:15.15 | halfhalo | Soo... Looks like amazon wireless has the veer in stock now, plus two day shipping |
| 21:15.55 | NuttyBunny | bah, I would have preferred 8 days and a $50 price tag, no contract |
| 21:16.12 | halfhalo | Same |
| 21:16.14 | Loudergood | indeed |
| 21:16.34 | halfhalo | goes hunting around for spare change |
| 21:18.04 | NuttyBunny | fixes the fso-installer Makefile ... really, why just three people mess around with that? :) |
| 21:18.35 | NuttyBunny | Everybody loves webOS?????!!! |
| 21:18.40 | NuttyBunny | I do :D |
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| 21:33.22 | NuttyBunny | oil: ping? |
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| 22:44.57 | bnceo | yo yo |
| 22:44.58 | bnceo | wut up |
| 22:49.05 | rwhitby | oil: Adora was looking for you. Something about wIRC ;) |
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| 23:04.20 | thor968 | Hi, one more thing - at least for tonight :-) |
| 23:07.44 | thor968 | I want to put a German keyboard mate into my UK Pre 2, the "hardware-replacement" is quite simple, but I |
| 23:07.46 | thor968 | haven't found how to change the keyboard-layout on software side. |
| 23:09.14 | thor968 | I compared /usr/palm, /etc and other directorys from a German Pre Plus with webOS 2.1.0 and the UK Pre 2 with 2.1.0 but could not find any setting to change the layout. I can exchange the "Z" and "Y" key with "setkeycodes 07 44" and "setkeycodes 14 21" but this also changes the "*" and "(", so I assume that this is not a solution. |
| 23:09.59 | thor968 | I also found several keyboard/keycode-related files in "/usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/submissions/.../resources" (and "mojo2"), but they are identical on the German Pre Plus and the UK Pre 2. Do you have any hind where I have to look for that to write a patch that changes the layout? Thanks a lot. |
| 23:11.47 | SineOt | I think you need to do a metadoctor for that. I believe there is an option when building the doctor to set the keyboard type. |
| 23:16.32 | thor968 | @SineOt: you have any idea what the metadoctor changes while installing that can not be done by a patch? |
| 23:16.50 | SineOt | no idea. you'd have to look or ask rwhitby |
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| 23:30.57 | thor968 | @SineOt: thanks a lot, rwhitby unfortunately is not available, so I have to try it tomorrow. For me it's far to late already. Gn8. |
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| 23:39.31 | Joe739 | i would like to install linphone on my palm pre |
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