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00:32.13bnceoand he's back
00:43.01NuttyBunnyhuh? why did it disconnect me?  hehehe
00:45.08t3k_noL8R PPL...
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03:34.57oc80zhi quick question
03:35.06oc80zwhen the shit is sprint going to get me a new phone.
03:35.36oc80zi see webos 3 stuff...
03:35.40oc80zwtfrig?
03:37.06SineOtwebos 3 stuff?
03:38.47PatrickC_Pre2yeah, what webos 3 stuf?
03:39.00halfhalotouchpad is webos3
03:41.47PatrickC_Pre2but its not a phone :)
03:45.37oc80z...
03:46.01oc80zmy point.
03:46.09oc80zand if it cant skype, its a phone.
03:46.18PatrickC_Pre2we /might/ get the Pre3
03:46.24PatrickC_Pre2but don't get ur hopes up
03:46.33oc80zsprint /might/ have to die.
03:46.34oc80z;]
03:46.47oc80zi'm still 1.4.5.x
03:46.54PatrickC_Pre2why??
03:46.57PatrickC_Pre2and .x?
03:47.12oc80zwhatever it is 1.4.5
03:47.45oc80zwhy should i go to 2.0
03:47.49PatrickC_Pre2its 1.4.5 and y not upgrade?
03:47.51PatrickC_Pre2its easy
03:48.13oc80zwhats with the disclaimers about the profile
03:48.23oc80zit makes your profile a 2.0 only profile
03:48.38PatrickC_Pre2I went from 2.1 to 1.4.5 on a profile
03:48.40PatrickC_Pre2its easy
03:48.46PatrickC_Pre2just erase backup data
03:49.24PatrickC_Pre2all of your apps come back, just no accounts/memos/calendar/etc.
03:49.36oc80zwell, the use on the pre is pretty manged, i have to put about a pound or two of force on it at a certian again to get a charge to go through it, let alone mount it.
03:49.47oc80zmangled*
03:50.07PatrickC_Pre2touchstone for charging, idk for USB
03:50.07oc80zhrm dunno.
03:50.20oc80zsftp.
03:50.31oc80zsshfs is great, too.
03:50.34PatrickC_Pre2but, can you run the doctor with that?
03:50.49oc80zi could if i put a couple of books on the usbwire/male wire
03:50.56oc80zthen hang it from the side of a desk.
03:50.57oc80zheh.
03:51.17PatrickC_Pre2broke his pre+. . . will fix tomorrow :)
03:51.36oc80zyea
03:51.48oc80zits great having a phone you will follow, not a carrier.
03:52.07oc80zbut /me sketched out about at&t's data caps and, overall network availability..
03:52.12oc80zfucking worst in the nation.
03:52.17PatrickC_Pre2I can run a webOS phone on *any* carrier
03:52.48oc80zhspa+ vs. lte?
03:52.56oc80zvs. "4g"
03:53.01oc80z(wimax)
03:53.07PatrickC_Pre2HSPA+ isn't 4G
03:53.14oc80ztell sales that.
03:53.20oc80zand clearwire.
03:53.24PatrickC_Pre2LTE is.. I believe
03:53.38PatrickC_Pre2WiMax is, afaik
03:53.38oc80zyea
03:53.47oc80zthere are new dual channel modules coming out
03:53.55PatrickC_Pre2time to sign into accounts...
03:54.02oc80zthey are marketing them as , dual carrier.
03:54.07oc80zso watch out for that lingo too.
03:54.11PatrickC_Pre2dual-carrier :)
03:54.23PatrickC_Pre2I have a UMTS, does that count :D
03:54.35oc80zevdo-b stuff?
03:54.40PatrickC_Pre2GSM
03:54.51oc80zyea
03:54.58oc80zdont know
03:55.02PatrickC_Pre2its an unlocked Pre2
03:55.10PatrickC_Pre2UMTS GSM phone
03:55.39oc80zgood to have
03:55.51oc80znot i, still the same orig pre.
03:55.51PatrickC_Pre2oh, and back to the profile things.. I have a 1.4.5 profile, and a 2.x profile
03:55.57PatrickC_Pre2and yeah it is
03:56.05PatrickC_Pre2well, I can't use the pre2
03:56.46oc80zgrr hurry up and sync
03:56.56oc80zshit, may be i should do up the webos 2 then...
03:57.09oc80z....dunno.
03:57.10PatrickC_Pre2what desktop OS?
03:57.32oc80zi have the win7 64bit here.
03:57.49PatrickC_Pre2you will either need one of two things, vbox or dual-boot
03:57.56oc80zoh
03:57.58PatrickC_Pre2linux/osx is required now
03:58.00oc80zi run linux
03:58.03oc80zGOOD.
03:58.18PatrickC_Pre2its like 4-5 cmds iirc
03:58.27PatrickC_Pre2wait, no 1 cmd
03:58.33oc80z<g>
03:58.34PatrickC_Pre2the script does it all now :)
03:58.53oc80zi'll have to check that out
03:59.02oc80zit modifies the java jar?
03:59.05oc80zdocjar*
03:59.11PatrickC_Pre2yeah
03:59.24oc80zi was helping someone with that, to jump on to a pay-asyou-go network
03:59.28PatrickC_Pre2and the only time you have to plugin your pre, is to run the doctor
03:59.34oc80zand he said theres some md5sums .. like heh.
03:59.47oc80zoh werd. ill have to do that tomorrow.
03:59.51PatrickC_Pre2you don't have to deal with that for a 2.x upgrade
03:59.56oc80z..whats the best thing about the 2.x os?
03:59.59PatrickC_Pre2unless you are frankenpre'ing
04:00.03PatrickC_Pre2everything
04:00.08oc80zsold!
04:00.14PatrickC_Pre2Just Type, Exhibition Mode, SW Manager, etc
04:00.25PatrickC_Pre2Text backups!!!!
04:00.26oc80zhmmmmph.
04:00.39PatrickC_Pre2all your text msgs are backed up now!! :D
04:00.53PatrickC_Pre2new app catalog, nDrive
04:01.00PatrickC_Pre2promo codes, the list goes on
04:01.06oc80zi have a vmware with dedicated raid-0 running ubuntu 10.10 on this machine
04:01.26oc80znDrive?
04:01.30PatrickC_Pre2I use vbox, but I guess vmware will work
04:01.34oc80zok
04:01.36PatrickC_Pre2http://ndrive.com
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04:02.00oc80z:-O
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04:02.11oc80zany UbuntuOne stuff get brought over?
04:02.27oc80zi want to get into the slug2 buildsystem
04:02.31PatrickC_Pre2idk
04:03.04oc80zhmm
04:03.10oc80zill have to work on that later
04:03.26PatrickC_Pre2I love 2.1
04:05.23oc80zyou run ubuntu?
04:05.40PatrickC_Pre2in a vbox
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04:07.27oc80zcheers then. ;]
04:07.42oc80zaight homey.
04:07.50oc80zpass the frig out ;(
04:09.16PatrickC_Pre2wow... the pre is stupidly slow stock :/
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04:11.47PatrickC_Pre2hey NuttyBunny :)
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04:12.00NuttyBunnyhey
04:12.34PatrickC_Pre2I almost thought my doctor borked my pre :/
04:12.39PatrickC_Pre2but it didn't :)
04:23.49NuttyBunnyphew... I had the same feeling with this guy's android kernel for the Pre 2, it left my Pre2 just as the Plus :)
04:24.28PatrickC_Pre2hmm.. this guy sounds a little familiar :)
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04:27.43PatrickC_Pre2my app catalog is downloading :D
04:28.16PatrickC_Pre2making it impossible to download any new apps lol
04:31.37PatrickC_Pre2is off to bed
04:31.39PatrickC_Pre2night all
04:42.28SineOtHuh. F14 on Pre2: no wifi?
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07:30.42pippohi, i'm interested in  Linphone alpha test, can anyone help me?
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07:55.24swisstomcatmorning
07:55.59Scapecciohi, i'm interested in linphone alpha test. i'm from Italy and i' using palm pre webos 1. can anyone help me?
07:56.12swisstomcathi scapeccio
07:56.18swisstomcati'd ask rwhitby
08:00.05Scapecciosorry, buongiorno a tutti (o buonanotte)
08:09.56swisstomcatbuongiorno :)
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08:46.31rwhitbyScapeccio: what device and sip provider?
08:51.04Scapecciodevice palm pre 1 provider euteliavoip
08:58.40mpinguhey rwhitby  you l8r can help me with some wifi questions for palm pre
08:59.00rwhitbydepends on the questions
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13:30.51PatrickC_Pre2throws pre at wall
13:30.55PatrickC_Pre2work messaging....
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16:34.47PatrickC_Pre2we need a "Resume All Downloads" button in the SW manager
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16:52.16ice8luehey guys
16:53.49PatrickC_Pre2hey ice8lue
16:54.53ice8luehey PatrickC_Pre2
16:55.27PatrickC_Pre2I need to fix my pre+ today..
16:57.32ice8luewhat did u do?
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16:58.21PatrickC_Pre2killed it.. I tried to put SHR on it, and it won't boot now
16:58.40ice8luewhat is shr?
16:59.07PatrickC_Pre2a mobile distro
16:59.13PatrickC_Pre2I was trying to dual-boot i
16:59.15PatrickC_Pre2it*
17:01.00PatrickC_Pre2I had my pre- dual-booting Android, but had to doctor it
17:01.06ice8luehmm well
17:01.21ice8luei love my webos^^ dont need another os ;)
17:01.24PatrickC_Pre2I had to doctor as I was bringing it to sprint
17:01.40PatrickC_Pre2I love webOS too :)
17:01.43PatrickC_Pre2but need android
17:02.21ice8luewhy?
17:02.40PatrickC_Pre2do develop with
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17:05.26ice8luehm
17:05.43ice8lueand now bootie is dead huh?
17:05.58PatrickC_Pre2well, I wasn't dual-booting the plus yet
17:06.13PatrickC_Pre2then I tried to put SHR on it, (without android on it)
17:06.21PatrickC_Pre2and bootr/bootie died
17:06.51ice8lue=/
17:06.57PatrickC_Pre2yeah
17:07.02ice8luerestoring bootie is not the easiest thing to do
17:07.05PatrickC_Pre2I'm gonna fix it without a doctor though :)
17:07.17PatrickC_Pre2novacom boot mem:// filetouImage
17:07.21PatrickC_Pre2iirc
17:23.40PatrickC_Pre2I hate sprint!
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18:01.38NuttyBunnyhas earned the power of bootie recovery
18:02.06halfhalowin
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18:05.58PatrickC_Pre2how do I turn my phone on if my power button is broke?
18:06.16SineOtyou don't! *evil laugh*
18:06.35PatrickC_Pre2I hate sprint
18:06.58SineOtThat's probably one of the things the Pixi got way, way right.
18:07.08SineOtThe power button is entirely exposed when you remove the back casing.
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18:24.39NuttyBunnySineOt: You're wrong!
18:25.03NuttyBunnyYou can power on your Pre/PrePlus/Pixi/Pre2 by plugging in a power cable into it :D
18:25.16SineOtOh, on!
18:25.19SineOtI thought he said off.
18:25.39NuttyBunnyah, you pull the battery ;)
18:25.53SineOtTsk tsk
18:26.11SineOthow goes, NuttyBunny?
18:26.20NuttyBunnyor, as PatrickC_Pre2 does, you throw the Pre to the wall
18:26.33SineOt;_;
18:26.46NuttyBunnySineOt: Working today... "real" work :(
18:28.14SineOtAwww.
18:28.29SineOtAt least "real" work tends to come with "real" money
18:30.09halfhaloAs opposed to monopoly money, which is only good in canadia
18:31.29NuttyBunnyYep... and "real" money is needed to pay the bills :S
18:31.47SineOtYou sure they're "real" bills and not "fake" bills? :o
18:33.16NuttyBunnyow.. my gf got a fake one the other day :(   at least it was a low value one
18:33.47SineOtfake as in, fake cash?
18:33.52SineOthow'd they even catch that?
18:33.56halfhalowhistles
18:35.39SineOtmost places around here won't even check if it's counterfitted unless it's like, a hundred
18:35.44SineOtsometimes 50s
18:37.05PatrickC_Pre2NuttyBunny: hey! I only did that once! :D
18:37.34NuttyBunnyPatrickC_Pre2: But didn't it turn off?? ;)
18:37.42PatrickC_Pre2lol
18:38.00NuttyBunnySineOt: A Fake $50 pesos bill, (about $4.50USD)
18:38.01PatrickC_Pre2Sprint replaced my power button yesterday, and now the power button is broke :/
18:38.32NuttyBunnywants so see the Sprint people's face when PatrickC_Pre2 returns with his Pre :D
18:38.37SineOthow did anyone catch it as being fake? way curious
18:38.52SineOtI've never seen anyone catch a fake 5 unless it was WAY obvious
18:39.16PatrickC_Pre2NuttyBunny: hahahaha I wish I could take a picture :D
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20:36.53yozgrahamehey there - anyone know the current status of Linphone?
20:37.10yozgrahame(precentral thread has been pretty quiet the last month)
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23:40.38rwhitbyyozgrahame: it's open source, current status is visible to all in the source repo.
23:41.57yozgrahamerwhitby: thanks for the response! Any more work on it in the past month?
23:42.07yozgrahameneeds to actually go find the source repo...
23:42.18rwhitbyhttp://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/linphone.git;a=summary
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23:57.53yozgrahamerwhitby: thank you!

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