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| 01:32.06 | NuttyBunny | mmm... ubuntu 11.04 beta runs slow on my netbook :( |
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| 01:54.00 | Loudergood | NuttyBunny: it flies on my laptop..of course that's atom vs core2duo |
| 02:01.21 | wgreenhouse | I'm a weirdo, but I love my Debian Squeeze systems with practically no desktop at all |
| 02:01.25 | wgreenhouse | and my webOS touchscreen phone |
| 02:01.59 | rwhitby | only runs linux headless, cause all linux GUIs suck |
| 02:02.38 | wgreenhouse | rwhitby: I like the framebuffer console, with a nice unicode console font (Terminus, in my case) |
| 02:02.40 | wgreenhouse | and GNU screen |
| 02:02.42 | wgreenhouse | and Emacs |
| 02:02.50 | NuttyBunny | screen rocks :) |
| 02:02.52 | wgreenhouse | I start up X basically when I need a graphical browser or something |
| 02:03.01 | rwhitby | yeah, screen and emacs and the only UI I use on Linux |
| 02:03.13 | rwhitby | X is just a way to run more terminals on your screen |
| 02:03.29 | wgreenhouse | rwhitby: that's how I operate my netbook most days (screen and emacs on tty) |
| 02:03.32 | NuttyBunny | uses screen with a 52x36 window ;) |
| 02:03.33 | wgreenhouse | very pleasant |
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| 02:05.10 | Loudergood | oh well emacs is practically as bloated as gnome anyway ;) |
| 02:05.28 | rwhitby | not when you run it in no-windows mode :) |
| 02:05.46 | rwhitby | emacs -nw ftw |
| 02:05.50 | Loudergood | is just a smart ass vi user |
| 02:06.04 | rwhitby | yeah, vi is fine when emacs is not available |
| 02:06.41 | wgreenhouse | emacs --daemon for me. then I can attach gtk or -nw clients as needed for various tasks |
| 02:12.56 | Xuzz | vim ftw :p |
| 02:13.18 | wgreenhouse | Xuzz: can you IRC from vim? |
| 02:13.26 | halfhalo | uses windows. so there |
| 02:13.50 | Xuzz | wgreenhouse: do I want to? |
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| 02:13.59 | Xuzz | halfhalo: i feel sorry for you :( |
| 02:14.03 | Loudergood | http://www.storagereview.com/lsi_warpdrive_slp300_review |
| 02:14.22 | halfhalo | loudergood guess who wrote that |
| 02:14.35 | Loudergood | that's what I was trying to figure out |
| 02:14.42 | wgreenhouse | Xuzz: Emacs is really a Lisp machine, it's only incidentally an editor. and it makes a good IRC client :) |
| 02:14.53 | wgreenhouse | I'd hate to switch from elisp to vimscript for customization |
| 02:15.12 | Xuzz | wgreenhouse: exactly: I already have a good enough operating system, thanks |
| 02:15.19 | wgreenhouse | hehe |
| 02:15.41 | halfhalo | Loudergood: yeah, that card is a beast |
| 02:15.49 | Loudergood | lol you ok |
| 02:15.53 | Loudergood | yeah I can see that |
| 02:16.03 | Loudergood | someone just linked it in an unrelated channel |
| 02:16.25 | halfhalo | which channel? |
| 02:16.26 | PatrickC_Pre2 | wgreenhouse: you could just write the emacs review and show him there ;) |
| 02:16.33 | halfhalo | is now interested |
| 02:16.53 | Loudergood | a gaming channel on another server...only everyone has grown up and become sys admins now |
| 02:17.04 | halfhalo | lol |
| 02:17.10 | wgreenhouse | PatrickC_Pre2: I'm not going to review all of Emacs--that's pretty much an impossible task :) |
| 02:17.21 | wgreenhouse | I wanna review specific parts though |
| 02:17.21 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol |
| 02:17.26 | halfhalo | is glad sr is becoming popular |
| 02:17.47 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hows/what's the next review comin/gonna be? |
| 02:18.15 | Loudergood | my vertex 2 is already outdated ;_; |
| 02:18.28 | wgreenhouse | PatrickC_Pre2: idk what I should tackle next |
| 02:18.42 | PatrickC_Pre2 | Preware/wIRC :) |
| 02:18.54 | wgreenhouse | wIRC |
| 02:18.57 | wgreenhouse | mmm |
| 02:19.02 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I'm gonna do one soon.. |
| 02:19.08 | wgreenhouse | excellent |
| 02:19.10 | halfhalo | has issues with ocz.... but that is ot so back to whatever the subject was before |
| 02:19.25 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lets talk over PM so as to not go too off topic :p |
| 02:19.55 | Loudergood | at least we haven't left computers this time.. |
| 02:20.11 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol |
| 02:20.32 | PatrickC_Pre2 | we need a mobile developer center... |
| 02:21.02 | Loudergood | PatrickC_Pre2: you're almost 16, buy a van and set one up in the back |
| 02:21.14 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol |
| 02:21.51 | halfhalo | thinks that's not the proper use of a van |
| 02:21.59 | PatrickC_Pre2 | is http://developer.hpwebos.com redirecting anyone else to the regular developer.palm.com ? |
| 02:22.19 | Loudergood | yes |
| 02:22.46 | Loudergood | halfhalo: especially if you're HS aged |
| 02:23.14 | PatrickC_Pre2 | we need a m.developer.palm.com site... |
| 02:23.30 | PatrickC_Pre2 | loudergood: can you make that happen? |
| 02:23.55 | Loudergood | now I'm lost |
| 02:24.13 | PatrickC_Pre2 | a mobile developer.palm.com site |
| 02:24.37 | Loudergood | no, that I can't do |
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| 02:25.52 | Loudergood | wonders if PatrickC_Pre2 has been using Ares on his phone again.. |
| 02:26.04 | PatrickC_Pre2 | yep :) |
| 02:26.19 | PatrickC_Pre2 | and the SDK |
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| 02:56.01 | destinal-pre | rwhitby: you did it? |
| 02:57.04 | destinal-pre | or was the bell thing something palm changed? |
| 02:57.19 | rwhitby | palm changed the bell thing it looks like |
| 02:57.29 | PatrickC_Pre2 | bell thing? |
| 02:58.30 | rwhitby | https://twitter.com/#!/ToonDoctor/status/53579503129214977 |
| 02:59.16 | PatrickC_Pre2 | cool |
| 03:01.01 | Xuzz | does preware have a search function? |
| 03:01.46 | rwhitby | Xuzz: did you read the splash screen on first startup on which you clicked "I've read this, please continue" ? |
| 03:02.09 | Xuzz | no. |
| 03:02.17 | oil | lol |
| 03:02.17 | Xuzz | (am I supposed to?) |
| 03:02.33 | Xuzz | like, does anyone ever read splash screens on first startup when they are told to? :p |
| 03:02.38 | oil | its like every other webos app? |
| 03:02.47 | Xuzz | i ignored those too :< |
| 03:02.57 | wgreenhouse | Xuzz: yeah, open a category (or "List of Everything") and start typing :-P |
| 03:02.57 | rwhitby | Xuzz: you don't deserve to use Preware, sorry. Please delete it right now. |
| 03:03.35 | rwhitby | wgreenhouse: no, do not give him the answer. he does not deserve it. |
| 03:04.19 | Xuzz | rwhitby: deleted :< |
| 03:05.41 | rwhitby | Xuzz: you are hereby forced to use WebOS Quick Install for the period of your natural life, or until you learn to read splash screens on open source applications, whichever comes sooner. |
| 03:07.20 | oil | lol |
| 03:08.03 | Xuzz | rwhitby: no palm-install allowed? |
| 03:08.27 | rwhitby | only with the -r argument |
| 03:09.33 | Xuzz | and webOS Quick Install is that Java app? |
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| 03:21.23 | wgreenhouse | all: lumberjack is blindingly awesome |
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| 03:25.38 | oil | :) |
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| 03:48.20 | Chromeo | Hi guys. I flashed my Pixi+ to Cricket today and everything seems to be working fine excep that Preware isn't letting me install anything? |
| 03:48.42 | Chromeo | Anybody know what's going on? |
| 03:52.27 | Chromeo | anybody here? |
| 03:55.41 | rwhitby-pre | Xuzz: BTW, you know I was kidding, right? |
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| 04:09.38 | siliconvalley785 | anyone around that wants to help me add messaging plugins to my pre plus? |
| 04:10.07 | siliconvalley785 | i added them but the msn live messenger isn't signing in. did check the forum posts, nothing seems to be working |
| 04:13.16 | NuttyBunny | siliconvalley785: In fact, I'm working on that... stupid Microsoft and their non-compliant servers :@ |
| 04:13.36 | siliconvalley785 | oh ok |
| 04:13.43 | siliconvalley785 | so im not the only one having issues with that |
| 04:14.17 | NuttyBunny | no, the worst is that it may work some times, and just don't others |
| 04:14.25 | siliconvalley785 | ah ok |
| 04:14.47 | siliconvalley785 | cause i got this pre today with the intent on addnig these services and banking on them working |
| 04:15.04 | siliconvalley785 | but yeah,whnever you get it fixed is cool, just throw something up in the forum |
| 04:15.15 | NuttyBunny | MS has several (a lot) of servers with mixed implementations for TLS encryption, some work with the plugin, other don't, so we're looking for the best way to do it |
| 04:15.32 | NuttyBunny | Will do, don't worry :) |
| 04:15.42 | NuttyBunny | do you have 1.4.x or 2.x? |
| 04:15.45 | siliconvalley785 | thanks man, good to know someone out there is working on this |
| 04:15.48 | siliconvalley785 | im 1.4.5 |
| 04:17.53 | NuttyBunny | Yes, I hope to have an update this weekend, or sometime next week |
| 04:18.45 | siliconvalley785 | awesome |
| 04:20.39 | wgreenhouse | uses wIRC + a bitlbee instance running on his server for messaging |
| 04:20.45 | wgreenhouse | bitlbee's been having msn issues too though |
| 04:21.43 | NuttyBunny | it's a problem between libgnupg and the MS servers not being 100% complaint |
| 04:22.00 | NuttyBunny | every app that relies on gnupg have similar issues |
| 04:27.36 | Xuzz | rwhitby-pre: yes :) |
| 04:28.04 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: gnutls you mean? |
| 04:30.06 | NuttyBunny | wgreenhouse: yes, that, gnutls |
| 04:30.13 | NuttyBunny | stupid microsoft |
| 04:30.28 | siliconvalley785 | pretty much |
| 04:30.57 | NuttyBunny | I've been suffering with that for 2 days and found no reliable solution other than patch the /etc/hosts file |
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| 04:45.20 | PatrickC_Pre2 | NuttyBunny: I can help test the Facebook Chat plugin fix :) |
| 04:45.49 | NuttyBunny | PatrickC_Pre2: It's really ugly, it duplicates messages right now :) |
| 04:46.56 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol.. any progress on the Jabber not merging contacts? |
| 04:47.31 | NuttyBunny | heh... jabber doesn't even load right now :D |
| 04:47.41 | NuttyBunny | I'm doing it step by step |
| 04:47.43 | PatrickC_Pre2 | uh oh lol |
| 04:48.21 | NuttyBunny | first I had to set up a dev environment with every dependency ready (stupid gnutls and microsoft) hehehe... and then begin testing the plugins |
| 04:49.02 | NuttyBunny | right now I'm reaching the 3.0.6 status of the plugins (plus the new msn and facebook ones), but I'm not quite there yet |
| 04:49.44 | PatrickC_Pre2 | well, let me know when you got somethin to test :) |
| 04:50.07 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I have a device that needs a doctor anyway, so I can test and it doesn't matter if it breaks |
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| 04:52.39 | NuttyBunny | the good thing about the new ones it that nothing will break as there is no file patching involved! :D |
| 04:53.02 | PatrickC_Pre2 | then how does it work?? |
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| 04:56.31 | NuttyBunny | the synergy system reads a series of files to find the definition of the services and the parameters involved, and uses it to create the buttons on the add accounts page, then a service similar to the imlibpurple service that binds to the original plugins, runs in parallel, listening for the new services |
| 04:56.55 | NuttyBunny | everything gets tied in in the messaging account with no patching involved, everything is done via service calls |
| 04:58.45 | PatrickC_Pre2 | but a luna boot is still required, right? |
| 04:58.52 | NuttyBunny | full reboot |
| 04:59.02 | PatrickC_Pre2 | ahh.. ok |
| 04:59.39 | NuttyBunny | yeah, for some reason the Pre reads the files early in the boot, I suppose to create database stuff... |
| 04:59.55 | siliconvalley785 | makes sense. it is linux lol |
| 05:00.14 | NuttyBunny | All credit goes to Greg Roll, who found out that the Pre uses libpurple and went to find a way to add the plugins, back in the 1.2.x times :D |
| 05:00.27 | siliconvalley785 | yeah for sure |
| 05:00.42 | PatrickC_Pre2 | wow.. this has been out that long? |
| 05:03.16 | NuttyBunny | yep... back in the day it involved lots of patching |
| 05:04.19 | PatrickC_Pre2 | all I ever used was the @chat.facebook.com patch for 1.4.x |
| 05:07.51 | NuttyBunny | well guys, gotta go, it's still early and I'd like to sleep a bit more than these last few days (2-4 hours top) |
| 05:08.36 | PatrickC_Pre2 | wow.. well night |
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| 05:48.13 | oc80z | yo |
| 05:49.30 | PatrickC_Pre2 | how come I wouldn't see the default profiles in govnah when I have a kernel installed? |
| 05:51.21 | PatrickC_Pre2 | never mind... I shouldn't have asked that yet as I'm going to bed... |
| 05:51.28 | PatrickC_Pre2 | sorry, well, night |
| 06:01.22 | lingfish | Hrm, anyone had issues with alarms being "forgotten" on a Pre 1, internals-doctored to 2.1? |
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| 07:06.58 | zinge | Anyone know anything about the 'free Pre2's for qualified developers' program? I have a question... |
| 07:10.29 | Xuzz | sure, i got one via it |
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| 07:14.18 | DaemnChyld | just wondering has anyone thought of doing a rar/unrar port |
| 07:15.28 | Xuzz | DaemnChyld: looks like there is an unrar in ipkg-opt? |
| 07:15.47 | Xuzz | Palm Pre / # ipkg-opt list | grep unrar |
| 07:15.47 | Xuzz | unrar - 3.9.8-1 - unrar is an application that can decompress files and archives created using the RAR compression scheme |
| 07:15.54 | wgreenhouse | yeah, it's available as a command line thing from optware |
| 07:16.43 | DaemnChyld | hmmm thought I alread have optware installed. is that the same that had zip/unzip |
| 07:18.30 | RichT23_ | humm i am having a problem trying to remove a patch |
| 07:18.47 | zinge | Try ripping it off really fast. I hear it helps with bandaids... :-) |
| 07:18.58 | RichT23_ | i was just trying to work out why but can not find the rejects file... |
| 07:19.30 | RichT23_ | lol zinge, if only i could find the edge |
| 07:22.32 | Xuzz | ipkg: write: No space left on device |
| 07:22.34 | Xuzz | is that bad? |
| 07:26.19 | DaemnChyld | is that in the preware under optware |
| 07:29.40 | Xuzz | What does "rescan" do in Preware's Luna Manager |
| 07:29.41 | Xuzz | ? |
| 07:29.41 | DaemnChyld | guess I am just blind |
| 07:30.08 | rwhitby | Xuzz: rescans the list of installed applications |
| 07:30.12 | rwhitby | should not be required on 2.x |
| 07:30.35 | Xuzz | okay, so I probably need that if I manually changed the name of an app? |
| 07:30.47 | rwhitby | yep, or a Luna Restart perhaps |
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| 07:33.41 | DaemnChyld | where do I get ipkg-opt thought I installed it but unrar doesn't seem to be there. I installed mobi.optware.ipkg-opt |
| 07:34.26 | rwhitby | Optware Advanced Linux Command Line Installer (or some name like that) |
| 07:34.33 | rwhitby | install it from Preware |
| 07:34.40 | DaemnChyld | yeah that's what I installed |
| 07:35.05 | DaemnChyld | do I have to restart luna or the phone |
| 07:36.40 | DaemnChyld | or do I use it through bash |
| 07:36.58 | DaemnChyld | I am using terminal |
| 07:37.42 | wgreenhouse | DaemnChyld: from terminal, you'd do something like "ipkg-opt install unrar" |
| 07:40.46 | DaemnChyld | nope. get an error when doing that |
| 07:41.16 | DaemnChyld | cannot find pkg unrar |
| 07:41.51 | DaemnChyld | bash looks so much better |
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| 07:48.26 | DaemnChyld | well I don't know. maybe the name is not unrar wouldn't it be a pkg name |
| 07:48.55 | DaemnChyld | keeps saying can't find package unrar |
| 07:50.43 | DaemnChyld | got it! |
| 07:51.05 | DaemnChyld | did ipkg-opt update to update list then install unrar |
| 07:51.37 | DaemnChyld | knew I would figure it out if kept trying lol |
| 07:52.03 | DaemnChyld | cool feature |
| 07:52.21 | DaemnChyld | btw android sucks balls |
| 07:53.10 | DaemnChyld | need to go |
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| 07:53.38 | rwhitby | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Optware |
| 07:53.49 | rwhitby | searching the wiki, first hit. |
| 08:02.46 | wgreenhouse | I haven't played with irssi on the pre in a long while. was still getting used to the keyboard the last time I tried :) |
| 08:03.04 | wgreenhouse | now it's easy |
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| 09:24.57 | wgreenhouse | ah fuck. |
| 09:25.01 | wgreenhouse | I think I borked my camera |
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| 13:54.31 | Hendrix67 | Hi |
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| 14:01.06 | Hendrix67 | Hello, I am revently WebOS 2.1 on a Palm Pre. I installed Preware and when run, it never go beyond check device type |
| 14:01.40 | Hendrix67 | Sorry, I recently upgraded to 2.1 on my Original Pre. |
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| 15:46.21 | NuttyBunny | @uNiXpSyChO: I have just bought an iPhone4. I am now part of the b0rg. No more kernels. |
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| 16:22.48 | Rpianesi | Can someone please help me? I need 5 dollars to renew my domain before tommorow. I am willing to do work for the money, or ill be able to pay you back on wendsday. Can someone please help? Im good at graphics. |
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| 16:29.29 | Hendrix67 | Hi, I'm having trouble installing Preware. It seems that I'm missing wget after upgrading to WebOS 2.1. The file size of wget is 0 byte, and with no permission granted. |
| 16:32.21 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix67: You don't need wget to install Preware... |
| 16:33.52 | Hendrix67 | I installed it with all the suggested ways (except command line because of wget), and when I run it, it never get past checking access services |
| 16:34.46 | NuttyBunny | what page did you read to install it? (maybe it was an outdated one) |
| 16:35.30 | Hendrix67 | NuttyBunny: Then I tried installing with older version of Quick Install, it asked to run a script then throw ERROR. So I guess it was trying to run wget to get required files. |
| 16:36.38 | Hendrix67 | This one: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware |
| 16:37.27 | NuttyBunny | Ok, use the palm-install method, that works almost always :) |
| 16:41.32 | Hendrix67 | did that, same result |
| 16:43.05 | Hendrix67 | the app was installed, but when run, it just keep circling. Never get past the fist scfreen |
| 16:43.08 | Hendrix67 | screen |
| 16:43.53 | Hendrix67 | by the way. I'm running WebOS 2.1 on a Pre |
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| 16:45.52 | Hendrix67 | Only reason I want to install Preware is to get UberKernel and Govnah. Can they be installed without Preware? |
| 16:47.26 | NuttyBunny | mmm... no, Preware is the supported install method |
| 16:48.01 | NuttyBunny | look for the Preware icon, press the orange button and tap the Preware icon, it should show you a popup, tap delete |
| 16:48.11 | NuttyBunny | reboot, and try to install it again with palm-install |
| 16:48.38 | Hendrix67 | ok will try that. Thanks |
| 16:49.03 | Hendrix67 | By the way, my wget is 0 byte. Definitely something wrong with it right? |
| 16:49.19 | NuttyBunny | wget, on your Pre or on your computer? |
| 16:49.27 | Hendrix67 | my Pre |
| 16:49.40 | NuttyBunny | mmm... definitely wrong |
| 16:49.59 | Hendrix67 | anyway I can get a copy of correct one? |
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| 16:51.27 | NuttyBunny | yep, you can open the webos doctor file with an archive manager like winrar, look for the resources/webos.tar file, open that too, look for the rootfs file (I don't remember the name), inside that you'll find the filesystem that gets copied to your Pre |
| 16:51.35 | Hendrix67 | Might be because after upgrade, it fail to reboot automatically. I redo it twice same result. So I remove the cable, then it booted with 2.1. Other than wget, everything seems to be working OK. |
| 16:52.04 | Hendrix67 | Great! Thanks |
| 16:52.23 | NuttyBunny | yeah, try first with the wget file before reinstalling preware |
| 16:53.27 | Hendrix67 | OK. |
| 16:53.33 | Hendrix67 | doing it now |
| 17:06.37 | Hendrix67 | installation completed! |
| 17:06.44 | Hendrix67 | but I see no Icon. |
| 17:06.56 | Hendrix67 | Rebooting. Maybe that will help |
| 17:10.57 | NuttyBunny | no icon? that's odd, it should appear the moment you install it with palm-install |
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| 17:24.48 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 17:25.25 | Hendrix67 | my problem is this. after copy wget over, I can't just run wget it return help for busybox. |
| 17:25.46 | Hendrix67 | So I need to run # busybox wget ... |
| 17:26.20 | Hendrix67 | and I think the script itself also call wget which return the help (this is how I intepret the log file) |
| 17:27.29 | Hendrix67 | it said "Setup Completed" on the last line but have errors on earlier lines |
| 17:28.10 | NuttyBunny | you did copy wget to /usr/bin, right? |
| 17:28.24 | NuttyBunny | aaah, I see |
| 17:28.27 | NuttyBunny | you're right |
| 17:28.30 | NuttyBunny | it's a link |
| 17:29.17 | Hendrix67 | I copied to /usr/bin correct |
| 17:29.38 | Hendrix67 | how can I create this link |
| 17:29.48 | NuttyBunny | mm.. ok, on the terminal first delete wget |
| 17:29.53 | NuttyBunny | rm /usr/bin/wget |
| 17:29.58 | NuttyBunny | then create the link |
| 17:30.04 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 17:30.17 | NuttyBunny | ln -fs ../../bin/busybox /usr/bin/wget |
| 17:30.21 | NuttyBunny | that should do the trick |
| 17:30.35 | NuttyBunny | if it throws some error: |
| 17:30.42 | NuttyBunny | cd /usr/bin |
| 17:30.50 | NuttyBunny | ln -fs ../../bin/busybox wget |
| 17:34.40 | Hendrix67 | ok wget is working now |
| 17:34.44 | Hendrix67 | trying install |
| 17:36.14 | NuttyBunny | cool |
| 17:37.35 | Hendrix67 | installed. and running. Still at "Checking Service Access" |
| 17:37.57 | NuttyBunny | mmm.. no, it should not take long |
| 17:38.10 | Hendrix67 | still going |
| 17:38.21 | NuttyBunny | type the following in the terminal |
| 17:38.23 | NuttyBunny | ps ax | grep ipkg |
| 17:38.28 | NuttyBunny | you should see a line with: |
| 17:38.32 | NuttyBunny | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.35 | NuttyBunny | (or similar) |
| 17:38.56 | NuttyBunny | it you don't try rebooting once more, it should run on boot |
| 17:39.27 | Hendrix67 | it's the packaging Service right? |
| 17:39.48 | Hendrix67 | I read some where that this might be the problem. I see no such job on mine |
| 17:40.39 | NuttyBunny | yep, that's it |
| 17:40.45 | Hendrix67 | in case I don't have it. Can it be installed separately? |
| 17:41.22 | NuttyBunny | nop, it comes with preware, you may have to uninstall and reinstall, but I think there's something wrong with your Pre |
| 17:42.53 | NuttyBunny | here, copy this one, it will check if all the binaries that should be linked to busybox are there: |
| 17:42.58 | Hendrix67 | probably, because the 2.1 doctor did not complete as it suppose to. I mean my phone was not rebooted automatically |
| 17:43.08 | NuttyBunny | yep, maybe that's it :( |
| 17:43.35 | Hendrix67 | but as I said everything else seems to be working OK. |
| 17:43.47 | NuttyBunny | for i in [ [[ awk basename chrt chvt cksum clear cmp comm cryptpw cut deallocvt diff dirname du env expand expr find ftp get ftpput head hexdump id install less logger md5sum mkpasswd nmeter nohup open vt passwd patch printf pscan readlink renice reset resize seq setkeycodes sha1sum sort split strings tail taskset tcpsvd tee test tftp time tr traceroute tty ttysize udpsvd unexpand uniq unzip wc wget which who whoami xargs yes; do ls -l $i | g |
| 17:43.47 | NuttyBunny | rep -v busybox; done |
| 17:44.11 | NuttyBunny | both lines go together |
| 17:44.32 | Hendrix67 | whoa |
| 17:44.59 | Hendrix67 | meaning the last bit is grep -v busybox; |
| 17:45.13 | Hendrix67 | do I need the word done as well? |
| 17:47.15 | NuttyBunny | yep |
| 17:47.24 | NuttyBunny | from the "for" to the "done" |
| 17:47.31 | Hendrix67 | copy all to terminal and run? |
| 17:47.46 | NuttyBunny | yep, copy it on a single line and press enter |
| 17:48.19 | NuttyBunny | if there are incorrect links it will throw them, and if there are missing files, it will tell you too |
| 17:52.30 | Hendrix67 | lot of them |
| 17:53.35 | NuttyBunny | did any of them say "No such file or directory"? ot it just displays them like: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 19748 Feb 1 19:52 appname |
| 17:53.55 | Hendrix67 | lots of no such file or directory |
| 17:56.14 | NuttyBunny | crap... ok, let's fix them |
| 17:57.24 | Hendrix67 | how? |
| 17:57.31 | NuttyBunny | hold on a sec |
| 17:57.38 | NuttyBunny | shell wizardry ;) |
| 17:58.35 | Hendrix67 | :) |
| 17:58.46 | Hendrix67 | My unix is very rusty. |
| 17:59.17 | NuttyBunny | you could just do |
| 17:59.26 | Hendrix67 | ;) |
| 17:59.39 | NuttyBunny | for i in [ [[ awk basename chrt chvt cksum clear cmp comm cryptpw cut deallocvt diff dirname du env expand expr find ftp get ftpput head hexdump id install less logger md5sum mkpasswd nmeter nohup open vt passwd patch printf pscan readlink renice reset resize seq setkeycodes sha1sum sort split strings tail taskset tcpsvd tee test tftp time tr traceroute tty ttysize udpsvd unexpand uniq unzip wc wget which who whoami xargs yes; ln -fs ../../bi |
| 17:59.40 | NuttyBunny | n/busybox $i; done |
| 17:59.56 | NuttyBunny | of course, it's ln -fs ../../bin/busybox $i; done |
| 18:00.38 | NuttyBunny | but looking at this you really should redoctor, we don't know what else may be missing ;) |
| 18:01.37 | Hendrix67 | I was thinking the same. But your script, what does it do? |
| 18:02.24 | NuttyBunny | creates links for every file in the list |
| 18:02.30 | Hendrix67 | ok relink all the commands |
| 18:02.34 | NuttyBunny | they're set up that way in my Pre |
| 18:02.39 | NuttyBunny | 2.1 too |
| 18:02.53 | Hendrix67 | Awesome isn't it. |
| 18:03.14 | Hendrix67 | Do you also everclock it? |
| 18:03.35 | NuttyBunny | yep, 800/500, F105 |
| 18:04.14 | Hendrix67 | cool |
| 18:04.15 | NuttyBunny | it's a nice tradeoff between speed and battery life, besides it doesn't get as hot as it does at 1Ghz |
| 18:04.37 | NuttyBunny | too bad it can't go lower than 500Mhz, I'd love to have it at 250 with the screen off :) |
| 18:04.41 | Hendrix67 | I moved from N900 to Pre |
| 18:05.16 | Hendrix67 | got an error from the script (expecting "do") |
| 18:05.43 | NuttyBunny | ah, yes... after the yes... |
| 18:05.44 | Hendrix67 | do we put "do" before ln? |
| 18:05.48 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 18:05.56 | NuttyBunny | xargs yes; do ln -fs ../../bin/busybox $i; done |
| 18:05.58 | NuttyBunny | exactly |
| 18:07.42 | Hendrix67 | I ran your first script again and got: |
| 18:07.44 | Hendrix67 | ls: [: No such file or directory |
| 18:07.44 | Hendrix67 | ls: [[: No such file or directory |
| 18:07.44 | Hendrix67 | ls: [: No such file or directory |
| 18:07.44 | Hendrix67 | ls: [[: No such file or directory |
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| 18:09.19 | Hendrix67 | whoop |
| 18:09.22 | NuttyBunny | hehehe |
| 18:09.27 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix67 has quit (Excess Flood) |
| 18:09.33 | Hendrix67 | haha |
| 18:09.55 | NuttyBunny | I think.. |
| 18:10.07 | NuttyBunny | I feel stupid :) |
| 18:10.14 | NuttyBunny | pwd |
| 18:10.19 | NuttyBunny | where are you in the filesystem? |
| 18:10.21 | Hendrix67 | why? |
| 18:10.37 | NuttyBunny | we should had changed first to /usr/bin |
| 18:10.58 | NuttyBunny | that's why it didn't find anything :S |
| 18:11.13 | Hendrix67 | oh ok |
| 18:11.30 | Hendrix67 | I was at / |
| 18:11.36 | NuttyBunny | cd /usr/bin |
| 18:11.37 | NuttyBunny | right :) |
| 18:11.45 | NuttyBunny | use the first one: |
| 18:11.54 | NuttyBunny | for i in [ [[ awk basename chrt chvt cksum clear cmp comm cryptpw cut deallocvt diff dirname du env expand expr find ftp get ftpput head hexdump id install less logger md5sum mkpasswd nmeter nohup open vt passwd patch printf pscan readlink renice reset resize seq setkeycodes sha1sum sort split strings tail taskset tcpsvd tee test tftp time tr traceroute tty ttysize udpsvd unexpand uniq unzip wc wget which who whoami xargs yes; |
| 18:11.59 | NuttyBunny | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.08 | Hendrix67 | This is what returned: |
| 18:12.11 | Hendrix67 | ---------- 1 root root 0 Mar 31 16:09 chvt |
| 18:12.12 | Hendrix67 | ---------- 1 root root 0 Mar 31 16:09 cryptpw |
| 18:12.12 | Hendrix67 | ---------- 1 root root 0 Mar 31 16:09 chvt |
| 18:12.12 | Hendrix67 | ---------- 1 root root 0 Mar 31 16:09 cryptpw |
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| 18:12.47 | NuttyBunny | the server will ban you ;) hehehe |
| 18:12.57 | NuttyBunny | ok, so, we don't have links, just empty files |
| 18:13.07 | NuttyBunny | of course, wget didnt appear on the list, right? |
| 18:13.53 | Hendrix67 | wget was like these ones until you fixed it I think |
| 18:14.13 | NuttyBunny | try now with.... for <blablabla> yes; do rm $i; ln -fs ../../bin/busybox; done |
| 18:14.26 | NuttyBunny | it will delete the file and create the link |
| 18:14.49 | Hendrix67 | what's the <blablabla> |
| 18:15.07 | NuttyBunny | ah, all the stuff I typed previously :) |
| 18:15.15 | NuttyBunny | for i in [ [[ awk basename chrt chvt cksum clear cmp comm cryptpw cut deallocvt diff dirname du env expand expr find ftp get ftpput head hexdump id install less logger md5sum mkpasswd nmeter nohup open vt passwd patch printf pscan readlink renice reset resize seq setkeycodes sha1sum sort split strings tail taskset tcpsvd tee test tftp time tr traceroute tty ttysize udpsvd unexpand uniq unzip wc wget which who whoami xargs yes; |
| 18:15.20 | Hendrix67 | oh ok |
| 18:15.20 | NuttyBunny | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.35 | Hendrix67 | I got it on my notepad |
| 18:16.26 | Hendrix67 | and I should be at /usr/bin |
| 18:17.39 | NuttyBunny | yep |
| 18:17.52 | Hendrix67 | rm: can't remove '[': Read-only file system |
| 18:17.57 | NuttyBunny | ok |
| 18:18.06 | NuttyBunny | and lots of others, right? |
| 18:18.18 | NuttyBunny | don't paste them ; |
| 18:18.19 | NuttyBunny | ;) |
| 18:18.36 | Hendrix67 | up until chrt |
| 18:18.50 | Hendrix67 | then it start asking at chvt if I really want to remove |
| 18:18.53 | Hendrix67 | I cancled |
| 18:19.02 | NuttyBunny | the filesystem is normally read only, so we have to unlock it |
| 18:19.27 | NuttyBunny | rootfs_open -t <- that's the command, type it |
| 18:19.42 | NuttyBunny | and then go ahead with the miniscript again |
| 18:20.33 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 18:22.36 | Hendrix67 | ok done. no such files or directory for only 4 items |
| 18:22.59 | Hendrix67 | ftp, get, open, and vt |
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| 18:25.41 | Hendrix67 | shall I remove Preware / reboot / and install again? |
| 18:26.46 | NuttyBunny | mmm.. hold on |
| 18:27.42 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 18:27.55 | NuttyBunny | and just where the heck did I get those names???... they aren't on mine either |
| 18:28.59 | NuttyBunny | heh, funny, it was "ftpget", and "openvt" |
| 18:29.12 | NuttyBunny | rm ftpget; ln -fs ../../bin/busybox |
| 18:29.19 | NuttyBunny | argh.. |
| 18:29.25 | NuttyBunny | rm ftpget; ln -fs ../../bin/busybox ftpget |
| 18:29.35 | NuttyBunny | rm openvt; ln -fs ../../bin/busybox openvt |
| 18:29.46 | NuttyBunny | those last two, paste them |
| 18:29.56 | NuttyBunny | then remove/reboot/install |
| 18:30.56 | NuttyBunny | you wouldn't be able to install the kernels anyway, there are several commands that you didn't have properly setup |
| 18:31.17 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 18:31.27 | NuttyBunny | one last one |
| 18:31.30 | NuttyBunny | go to sbin |
| 18:31.34 | NuttyBunny | cd /usr/sbin |
| 18:32.02 | NuttyBunny | ls -l setlogcons chroot chpasswd |
| 18:32.09 | NuttyBunny | are the three linked to busybox? |
| 18:32.25 | wgreenhouse | ugh. I think I broke my pre+'s camera. :( |
| 18:32.30 | wgreenhouse | can |
| 18:32.38 | wgreenhouse | 't even get the LED flashlight patch to work now |
| 18:33.10 | NuttyBunny | wgreenhouse: reboots itself? |
| 18:33.19 | Hendrix67 | ok |
| 18:33.48 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: no |
| 18:34.09 | wgreenhouse | camera app just shows a black screen, and "Unable to take a picture" if I click the shutter |
| 18:34.11 | Hendrix67 | you mean /sbin right? |
| 18:34.48 | wgreenhouse | and the flashlight patch for the main menu (which uses the LED flashbulb for the camera) no longer works either |
| 18:34.51 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix67: /usr/sbin , /sbin has other files :S |
| 18:36.10 | NuttyBunny | in /sbin the ones linked to busybox are getty, hwclock, ifconfig, ifup, ifdown, loadkmap, pivot_root, route, setconsole, slattach, start-stop-daemon, switch_root |
| 18:36.36 | NuttyBunny | wgreenhouse: You've already rebooted several times, I hope, have you? |
| 18:36.42 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: yes |
| 18:36.44 | Hendrix67 | no links in /usr/bin |
| 18:36.50 | wgreenhouse | and even pulled the battery overnight |
| 18:37.01 | NuttyBunny | wgreenhouse: custom kernel? |
| 18:37.06 | wgreenhouse | yeah, uberkernel |
| 18:37.42 | Hendrix67 | NuttyBunny: shall I alltemp to reboot? |
| 18:37.51 | NuttyBunny | wgreenhouse: those sometimes break stuff :) uninstall it and see if that fixes the camera, if it does report it in the forums |
| 18:38.13 | Hendrix67 | NuttyBunny: or it would not do me any good, and that I should re-doctor |
| 18:38.14 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix76: mmm ... yep, reboot, or fix the links in /usr/sbin if you like |
| 18:38.20 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: okay. I kind of doubt it was the kernel, as I'd been using that for a couple months, and this just started last night |
| 18:38.23 | wgreenhouse | but I'll give it a try |
| 18:39.11 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix67: I'd really redoctor, we really don't know what else went missing from the doctor :( |
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| 18:47.18 | Hendrix67 | NuttyBunny: hi |
| 18:48.36 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix67: hi again, long time no see ;) |
| 18:49.12 | NuttyBunny | I was saying... Hendrix67: I'd really redoctor, we really don't know what else went missing from the doctor :( |
| 18:50.32 | Hendrix67 | haha |
| 18:50.50 | Hendrix67 | I reboot now the penguin never go away :( |
| 18:51.00 | Hendrix67 | I think I will re doctor |
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| 18:51.59 | Hendrix67 | yeah I agree |
| 18:52.45 | NuttyBunny | really? damn.. :S |
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| 18:58.27 | Hendrix67 | NuttyBunny: My phone would not boot |
| 18:58.38 | Hendrix67 | stuck at the penguin |
| 18:58.50 | Hendrix67 | any idea? |
| 19:00.05 | Loudergood | doctor. |
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| 19:01.18 | NuttyBunny | yep, doctor :( |
| 19:01.25 | NuttyBunny | it wasn't working properly anyway |
| 19:01.49 | NuttyBunny | if you want some fun boot it with the volume up and the C key pressed |
| 19:02.15 | NuttyBunny | (changes the penguin to a text boot, you may see where the error is), but to fix it is a pain compared to the Doctor |
| 19:02.54 | Loudergood | yeah i've seen the scrollback here, who knows how deep this goes |
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| 19:06.19 | NuttyBunny | hehehe... yes, tried to fix it, but the rabbit hole goes deeeeeep :) |
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| 19:08.37 | Hendrix67 | still at penguin with volume up and usb plug-in. next button not showing up |
| 19:10.05 | NuttyBunny | no, no: take off battery and usb cable, press up (keep it pressed), put cable in (it should show a battery with a "?" on it), insert battery, it should show the usb icon |
| 19:10.15 | NuttyBunny | (keep the vol up pressed) |
| 19:18.38 | Hendrix67 | got it |
| 19:18.49 | Hendrix67 | thanks guys |
| 19:19.23 | Hendrix67 | thanks for all your help |
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| 19:20.02 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: so it's common for alternate kernels to screw with the camera? |
| 19:20.24 | Loudergood | I wouldn't say it's common, but it can happen |
| 19:20.34 | wgreenhouse | okay |
| 19:20.46 | wgreenhouse | the sequence of events seemed to be that I tried the QR decoder app out of the app cat |
| 19:20.59 | Loudergood | I've had mine freeze when I was overclocking before |
| 19:21.00 | wgreenhouse | and when I viewed the camera output through that, it was all crazy staticy |
| 19:21.13 | wgreenhouse | and then after that, trying to use the camera app just got blackness |
| 19:21.13 | NuttyBunny | wgreenhouse: Not that common, but it happens... |
| 19:21.21 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: okay, that's reassuring |
| 19:21.25 | Loudergood | simply wouldn't open anymore until I let the phone cool down |
| 19:21.25 | wgreenhouse | I was worried I might've broken hardware |
| 19:21.42 | NuttyBunny | I've learned that when the camera screws I have to up the voltage a bit (with the new kernels it's quite easy) |
| 19:22.14 | Loudergood | well, in my case I had been capturing video for about 20 minutes too |
| 19:22.16 | wgreenhouse | ah so the electrics of the camera unit are known to be a little sensitive? |
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| 19:22.29 | NuttyBunny | yeap, since the first custom kernels :) |
| 19:22.43 | NuttyBunny | speed affects them, also voltage |
| 19:22.49 | Loudergood | the veritable canary in the coal mine |
| 19:23.03 | wgreenhouse | gotcha |
| 19:23.11 | wgreenhouse | well, I think that qr scanner app was the tipping point |
| 19:23.17 | wgreenhouse | and I don't really need to be able to scan QRs, lol |
| 19:23.21 | wgreenhouse | I was just goofing around |
| 19:24.15 | NuttyBunny | that app doesn't even work that good, we don't have autofocus, so it's hard to scan those things :( |
| 19:24.29 | SineOt | At least the Pre3 will fix that! |
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| 19:24.35 | wgreenhouse | yeah autofocus is one of the big things I'm looking forward to if I ever get a pre3 |
| 19:24.42 | SineOt | And the Veer too, to an extent. That camera is pretty killer |
| 19:25.26 | wgreenhouse | hmm still blacked out |
| 19:25.31 | wgreenhouse | so much for that |
| 19:26.57 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: default kernel fail--now what was that about raising voltage? |
| 19:28.01 | wgreenhouse | the camera isn't even that great, but I want my flashlight back :'( |
| 19:28.14 | NuttyBunny | whoa.. default kernel doesn't work either? .... the voltage stuff is controlled with a custom kernel :) |
| 19:28.16 | NuttyBunny | but... |
| 19:28.31 | NuttyBunny | it's so strange |
| 19:29.03 | wgreenhouse | eh maybe I physically screwed it up somehow then |
| 19:29.09 | NuttyBunny | I'll say the thing you don't want to hear... "doctor it" :D |
| 19:29.25 | wgreenhouse | NuttyBunny: hmm |
| 19:29.35 | wgreenhouse | if I'm going to go that far, I'll just do the 2.1 upgrade finally |
| 19:29.45 | NuttyBunny | maybe some control file got screwed |
| 19:29.54 | wgreenhouse | I realize it's bad diagnostic practice to introduce a new variable into the mess |
| 19:30.01 | wgreenhouse | but I'm not doctoring just to go back to stock :-P |
| 19:30.19 | NuttyBunny | hehehe :D sure, go to 2.1.. |
| 19:30.21 | NuttyBunny | Pre or Pre+? |
| 19:30.28 | wgreenhouse | pre+, on at&t |
| 19:30.50 | wgreenhouse | so I know I won't get 2.1-only app cat apps for the time being |
| 19:31.32 | NuttyBunny | yep... aside from that it works great |
| 19:32.01 | wgreenhouse | ugh, the staticky display in the qr scanner's camera view makes me worry I did screw up the actual unit somehow |
| 19:32.10 | wgreenhouse | but I'll save such worries until after I've upgraded to 2.1 |
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| 19:34.28 | NuttyBunny | I really hope the camera didn't die :S |
| 19:34.33 | Loudergood | actually I'm pretty sure the 2.1 only apps thing has been fixed |
| 19:35.07 | NuttyBunny | Loudergoog: It's something that Palm has to change serverside :( |
| 19:35.24 | SineOt | Yeah, and it seems to only work with some carriers (ATT is not one of them) |
| 19:35.30 | wgreenhouse | Loudergood: yeah, at&t profiles still do 9.9.9 on att |
| 19:35.37 | Loudergood | ah ok |
| 19:35.41 | SineOt | Although, Sprint and Verizon both do 2.1 profiles, don't they? |
| 19:35.49 | NuttyBunny | yep |
| 19:35.51 | Loudergood | has a verizon device |
| 19:36.13 | NuttyBunny | and Rod is testing something... that I won't spill yet, but it's awesome :D |
| 19:36.19 | SineOt | if I had to guessssssssss |
| 19:36.28 | Loudergood | haha yeah I saw his twitter posts |
| 19:36.34 | SineOt | it's probably got something to do with the fact that ATT still sells on contract Pre+s |
| 19:37.10 | Loudergood | I would've though with so many wr pre2s on ATT that there'd be a way |
| 19:37.14 | wgreenhouse | I got the last one in my local att store, it was like 30 bux plus the contract |
| 19:37.39 | wgreenhouse | there were more expensive non-smart messaging phones in the store |
| 19:37.48 | NuttyBunny | SineOt: But Telcel... come on! Still 1.4.0??!!! Argh... makes me want to begin ranting :@.. and they give them for free with one year contract (the Pre Minus--- GSM) |
| 19:38.04 | Loudergood | yeah, poor mexicans |
| 19:38.25 | Loudergood | always good to know that we're not necessarily stuck with the worst carriers |
| 19:39.03 | wgreenhouse | lol, they're worse off because of the concept of telecom deregulation that we probably sold them on :S |
| 19:39.50 | SineOt | Oh deregulation⦠|
| 19:39.51 | wgreenhouse | k, ttyl--will probably start the 2.1 metadoctor/installation fun sometime later |
| 19:40.02 | SineOt | I sure hope this ATT/Tmo merger dies like it should. |
| 19:40.02 | wgreenhouse | thanks for the guidance |
| 19:40.21 | wgreenhouse | SineOt: yeah, I hope someone decides it's time to show that the sherman antitrust act still exists :-/ |
| 19:40.34 | rwhitby | morning |
| 19:41.12 | wgreenhouse | k, see yinz later on |
| 19:41.59 | Loudergood | haha, this county is far too fond of duopolies |
| 19:42.53 | SineOt | Then again, I'm sure Sprint wouldn't have as many problems with the merger if they didn't have such a boner for weird ass android handsets |
| 19:43.20 | Loudergood | not to mention the whole wimax thing |
| 19:43.45 | Loudergood | out here sprint is useless without a roaming partner |
| 19:43.58 | SineOt | Sprint has kind of made it sound like they can jump to LTE by just doing a software update on their tower hardware, so I don't think that's too much of an issue |
| 19:44.26 | SineOt | I think it's more focusing only on high end Android handsets that are getting more and more gimmicky to try to draw people in, while all the low-mid range just kind of wallows in its own filth. |
| 19:44.47 | SineOt | The Echo is a good example of that, and the EVO 3D is hard to take as anything but a gimmick. |
| 19:44.57 | Loudergood | right, but what about their phones... |
| 19:45.36 | SineOt | Phase them out over the course of a few years like they've done in the past with other stuff. |
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| 19:46.12 | SineOt | You could just have everyone with a WiMax device upgrade after a year to an LTE one⦠But oh wait they're killing that program :3c |
| 19:46.30 | Loudergood | yeah that would be expensive too |
| 19:47.03 | SineOt | Eh. They get a new 2 year contract + whatever LTE fee they come up with. |
| 19:48.28 | NuttyBunny | with Telcel, if you sign a 12 month contract, you have to pay a "18 month" cancellation fee if you want to bail out... (whatever that means, I haven't asked exactly what do they mean by the 18 months) |
| 19:50.00 | SineOt | That's a good question! |
| 19:50.12 | SineOt | My guess is that it just gets used to artificially inflate the ETF. |
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| 21:39.52 | bradenfontaine | so what's goin on fellas? |
| 21:46.02 | NuttyBunny | nuttin' :) |
| 21:46.46 | andresmujica | hello all |
| 21:47.00 | andresmujica | i want to be a linphone alpha tester |
| 21:47.20 | andresmujica | is it available on a feed ? |
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| 22:49.37 | NuttyBunny | Hendrix67: You still there??? |
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| 23:53.20 | undrwater | howdy raster |
| 23:53.38 | raster | undrwater: brrrp |
| 23:53.39 | raster | :) |
| 23:53.44 | undrwater | kimchee? |
| 23:53.54 | raster | nah |
| 23:54.14 | raster | just bored of the usual greetings |