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11:23.41gourwhat are SAR values for pre models?
11:24.38gour*pre2
11:24.49gouri've found for pre...it's a bit high :-/
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12:03.54ThibaudHolliefant: surprised, the link you were given was rod's post (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing-3.html#post2863905), what went wrong then?
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12:29.35Thibaudbbl
12:38.21gourconsidering i plan to move to freebsd (from linux) soon, i wonder if palm sdk & other webos-internals tools would work on linux runnung under vbox?
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13:05.15gourrwhitby: i just read http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/02/hp-makes-investment-in-homebrew-community/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+webosroundup+%28webOSroundup%29 and wonder why there is no more coverage that HP is not so hostile towards linux and hacking on webOS? (or am i simply ignorant)
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14:10.36splashotehi, any chance to test your new VOIP-Client alghough it's still no in the feed?
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14:18.32Thibaudsplashote: hi, what device(s) & SIP provider(s)?
14:19.09splashotePre and I'd try 1&1 (germany)
14:19.27Thibaudsplashote: so 1.4.5, right?
14:19.35splashoteThibaud: right
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14:21.54Thibaudsplashote: good, see /msg & please report success as well as failure with details in alpha P|C thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy needed.
14:23.30splashoteThibaud: ok, great. I'll try my best to contribute information. Thanks for your great work, I really got upset when I heard about HP's 2.0 strategy and I only calmed as I read from linphone
14:23.43Thibaudsplashote: err, wait a little, not on my usual IRC client... ;)
14:23.55splashoteThibaud: k
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14:57.29dreadchickenjust saw the slashdot post, excellent.
15:00.17gourindeed
15:00.42gourconsidered that HP improved its image in his eyes
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16:05.18burksGreetings. I would be interested in alpha-testing linphone on the Pixi Plus. I have SIP accounts with sipgate.com, sipgate.de, betamax and asterisk to test this with. Any pointers?
16:05.21Thibaudinfobot: status
16:05.21infobotSince Mon Feb 14 09:56:23 2011, there have been 0 modifications, 22 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 7 commands.  I have been awake for 6h 8m 58s this session, and currently reference 117692 factoids.  I'm using about 15492 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 70.93/2.43 child 0.01/0
16:06.02Thibaudinfobot: hey nice, back from the deads it appears!
16:08.07Thibaudburks: greetings! Thing is I'm not finished with the CSS rework, so Linphone user experience is pretty bad at the moment (unwanted touches and scroll needed, really awkward, trust me).
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16:09.07Thibaudburks: may I ask you to stay tuned and ask again for the next coming revision? Pixi should be fine this evening/tomorrow then :)
16:09.48Thibaudburks: will be announced by Rod on twitter & P|C alpha thread
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16:10.08burksThibaud: Sure. Let me know if you need help with the css
16:11.07Thibaudburks: guess I should be fine, but thanks anyway. :)
16:11.50burksThibaud: great.
16:13.13pancroThibaud: do you need any testing done on Unlocked GSM Pre 2 (2.0.1) and O2 UK Pre minus (1.4.5)? I have a voipstunt.com account
16:15.57Thibaudpancro: 2.x is apparently suffering a service issue on app restart, so I'd recommend 1.4.5 to test your SIP provider (can't prevent you from testing 2.x, but you've been warned!)
16:16.06Thibaudpancro: see /msg & please report success as well as failure with details in alpha P|C thread   (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if   privacy needed.
16:16.29pancroThibaud: will do, thanks very much
16:20.53Thibaudpancro: BTW no front speaker yet, only back speaker for now so use headset with mic close to mouth if annoying.
16:22.48pancroas good as alpha testing gets :)
16:29.38Thibaudpancro: "annoying" because back speaker feeds the mic with echo for the person on the other end...
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16:34.33Thibaudburks: I should have been clearer: CSS rework for Pixi... ;)
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16:49.26burksThibaud: That's what I assumed. :-)
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17:13.40boqopodhey all - I have a Pre Plus - Verizon - running 1.4.5 i want to start over - ie patches, tweeks, etc. - I don't have access to a computer that can run WebOS Doctor - what are my options?
17:14.53scoutcamperdevice info
17:14.59scoutcamperreset my device
17:15.09scoutcampersecure erase
17:16.18boqopodI've done that Scout - and after it does it's thing, and my apps reinstall and like some of the patches are still there, I installed preware again and can't uninstall patches - preware doesn't see thm as installed
17:18.48scoutcamperdefers to someone else
17:19.02boqopodI can't use webOS Doc because I have a mac with 10.5 can't update the Java - and a windows 7 netbook...  FML
17:19.19halfhalowin 7 can doctor just fine
17:19.38boqopodmaybe because I have Win 7 starter?
17:19.51scoutcamperwin 7 starter can doctor
17:20.10scoutcamperjust install java
17:20.29boqopodwhen I get home I'll hafta jump on my netbook and screen shot what it does to me when I try
17:20.44scoutcampercan you describe it?
17:21.20boqopodit gives me an error saying it's nable to perform process - sorry I don't remember the exact wording.. and then it freezes...  I have the latest Java update
17:21.26boqopod*unable
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17:26.06boqopodI'm assimung there's no issue with Ubuntu et al as far as WebOS Doc running?
17:27.20scoutcampernot that i know of
17:29.01boqopodI think I'll be converting my Win 7 netbook 2 a BuntuBook
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17:29.22boqopodsince I'll be stuck with this phone til the Pre 3 comes to Verizon
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17:32.52joebpreyo
17:32.55boqopodsup
17:34.41boqopodso did anyone make a simple way to tether the Pre Plus via usB so I can use the phone's unlimited Data instead of the MHS??
17:35.11boqopodand yes - Verizon's MHS is capped at 5 GB/month then u incur charges
17:35.32halfhaloWon't make a difference
17:35.41boqopodhow come?
17:35.53joebprepfft att is capped at 2gb
17:36.29halfhalobecause its all from the same data source.  That 5GB applies to all data on the phone, not just hms
17:36.31halfhalomhs*
17:36.39boqopodlike I want to be able to dl torrents - but my 5GB/Month goes in ... oh about 12 hours..
17:37.17boqopodhalfhalo - I'll take a screen shot of my Verizon bill - MHS and Phone Data are tracked separatelyand charged separately
17:37.36scoutcamperboqopod, freetether will do usb, but 5gb still applies, it is the same for anything on the phone, tethering or not 5gb is the max
17:38.11boqopodmy bill for last month shows 13 GB of usage on the phone and 4.9GB on the MHS
17:38.35boqopodmy coworkers show the same - different usages of course
17:38.58halfhaloOk, they may be monitored seperatly now (gotta look at the bill for my vzw pre), but you will get yourself booted off vzw using that type of data constantly
17:39.51boqopodhmmmm  -  gonna hafta go chat with my local Vzw Phone Geek...
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17:41.04boqopodlunch break almost over...  now I get to watch the progress bar barely move while I render this HD footage...
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18:12.51lbmhBonsoir everybody ! I'd love to alpha-test linphone
18:13.46Thibaudgreetings lbmh! what device(s) & SIP provider(s)?
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18:14.19Thibaudlbmh: greetings! what device(s) & SIP provider(s)?
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18:17.00lbmhPre plus on Orange to be used with freephonie & ippi, cher Thibaud
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18:18.53Thibaudlbmh: I can already confirm freephonie is perfectly fine on a Pre minus (past 6 months)!!! But ippi is welcome of course, cher lbmh :)
18:19.49Thibaudlbmh: see /msg & please report success as well as failure with details in alpha P|C thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy needed.
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18:23.55lbmhMerci Thibaud ! How do I get the download ?
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19:38.40joebprewow my battery gives me at least 3 maybe 4 if it's sleep .. I tried a couple govnah setting and turn off stuff to svae battery but I'm always charging .. any apps or anything else that can help me with my battery woes
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19:40.27joebpreat 11:18 it was 100% it's 11:39 and I'm at 95%
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19:43.40joebpreit's annoying
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20:36.49infobotOWW!
20:36.58scoutcamperw00t
20:37.05scoutcamperinfobot has returned :D
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20:47.18PatrickC_Prehay
20:47.45Thibaudhi PatrickC_Pre, hi everyone, back now :)
20:48.04PatrickC_PreI need help on a review widget
20:48.40PatrickC_Pregetting ready to upload the code to pastebin. what all do you guys need to help me? lol
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20:52.42Thibaudinfobot: status
20:52.42infobotSince Mon Feb 14 09:56:23 2011, there have been 0 modifications, 44 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 29 commands.  I have been awake for 10h 56m 19s this session, and currently reference 117692 factoids.  I'm using about 15724 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 160.32/5.66 child 0.01/0
20:53.20PatrickC_Prehi infobot
20:53.50ThibaudYeah, back from the deads! I've been missing him ;)
20:53.57PatrickC_Preinfobot: hi
20:53.57infobotwhat's up, patrickc_pre
20:53.58PatrickC_Prelol
20:54.06PatrickC_Prelol, that's awesome
20:54.14PatrickC_Preinfobot: help
20:54.43PatrickC_Preinfobot: where is HP Palm?
20:54.44infobotPatrickC_Pre: what are you talking about?
20:54.51PatrickC_Prelol
20:55.02PatrickC_Prethis is fun :)
20:55.13PatrickC_Preinfobot: who is you're creator
20:55.13infobotPatrickC_Pre: what are you talking about?
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20:55.48PatrickC_Preinfobot: who is your creator
20:55.48infobotit has been said that your creator is obviously not a geek
20:56.10PatrickC_Preinfobot: what does that mean?
20:57.48rsanchez1lol
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21:05.58PatrickC_Prehay rsanchez1
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21:17.23boqopod_damn - i didn't sign out at work - lol
21:18.54boqopod_anyone here to give me a hand figuring out how to clear a Pre Plus and start over? I did the Full Secure Erase...  but all the patches are still there - none of the apps other than app store apps downloaded
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21:22.26oilboqopod_: download the doctor
21:23.22boqopod_doc downloaded
21:24.30oilrun it
21:24.44oilmake sure your phone is off
21:24.50oiland when the doctor says to plug it in
21:24.53oilhold the vol-up key and plug in the usb
21:25.27boqopod_that easy huh?
21:25.43oilpretty much
21:25.46oilthen click next
21:25.56oiland itl take like 10-20 mins
21:26.02oiland be fresh like you just bought it
21:26.04boqopod_will the pre download and install all previously paid apps when it restarts?
21:26.13oilwhen you log in with your profile, yes
21:26.18boqopod_shit
21:26.22boqopod_lol o.k.
21:26.27boqopod_cause that makes the process take about 2 hours
21:26.38oilwhat I do
21:26.44oilis immediately go into the catalog and "pause" them all
21:26.46oilthen setup wifi
21:26.53oiland start them all one at a time
21:27.03oilseems to go quicker and have less problems for me that way
21:27.12boqopod_good deal...  thanks
21:27.22oilnp
21:27.40boqopod_did Puff ever get his tethering app finished he was working on a couple months ago?
21:28.58oilits been released as beta
21:29.01oil0.99.13 i think?
21:29.09oilits in the testing feeds
21:29.22oilwork here is done, goes back to paying job :)
21:29.23oilbbl
21:31.13boqopod_lol ttfn
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22:14.38PatrickC_Home_hay
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22:25.27dtzWill~botsnack
22:25.27infobotdtzWill: aw, gee
22:25.33dtzWillinfobot: welcome back :D
22:25.33infobot[all in unison] Hi, back :D!
22:25.34dtzWillhugs infobot
22:25.53dtzWilllol
22:25.57ashi_~botsnack
22:25.57infobotashi_: thanks
22:26.00ashi_:)
22:26.04PatrickC_Homeinfobot: hi
22:26.04infobothello, patrickc_home
22:26.15PatrickC_Homeinfobot: how's it going?
22:26.15infobotgreat, and you, patrickc_home?
22:26.28PatrickC_Homeinfobot: great! thanks for asking!
22:26.32PatrickC_Homeinfobot: status
22:26.32infobotSince Mon Feb 14 09:56:23 2011, there have been 0 modifications, 118 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 62 commands.  I have been awake for 12h 30m 9s this session, and currently reference 117692 factoids.  I'm using about 18280 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 195.76/8.54 child 0.01/0
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22:26.58PatrickC_Homei like how he has "0 morons" lol
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22:28.28*** mode/#webos-internals [+v zsoc] by ChanServ
22:32.23rsanchez1~botsmack
22:32.23infobotOWW!
22:33.18PatrickC_Homeyou go rsanchez1! get 'em!
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22:34.11PatrickC_Homei love playing around with the bots :)
22:34.23PatrickC_Homeinfobot: who is rsanchez1?
22:34.24infobotPatrickC_Home: I think you lost me on that one
22:34.38PatrickC_Homeyay, i got the bot confused!
22:35.30PatrickC_Homeinfobot: bye
22:35.30infobotbye bye
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22:36.52rsanchez1infobot: who is the fairest maiden of them all?
22:36.53infobotrsanchez1: what are you talking about?
22:36.54zsocinfobot: PatrickC is some guy that abuses me
22:36.54infobotzsoc: okay
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22:37.30PatrickC_Homeinfobot: zsoc is lying
22:37.30infobot...but zsoc is already something else...
22:37.40rsanchez1ha I guess infobot has no sympathy for zsoc
22:37.44scoutcamperInfobot can be contacted privately so as to not clutter the channel logs
22:38.01zsocscoutcamper: I enjoy cluttering the channel logs, got me where I am today.
22:38.10scoutcamperzsoc, lol
22:38.11zsocinfobot: who is zsoc?
22:38.11infobotmethinks zsoc is the OWHE, original webos hacker extraordinaire, and don't forget it. He's fluent in Hungarian, and wears mc hammer pants.
22:38.21zsocAh, forgot about the pants.
22:38.31rsanchez1ha!
22:38.35PatrickC_Homewho taught infobot that? lol
22:39.01zsocegaudet methinks :}
22:39.06halfhalo\o/ ITS ALIVE!
22:39.22zsochalfhalo: that's what she said
22:39.59PatrickC_Homebbl cya
22:40.06PatrickC_Homeinfobot: bye
22:40.07infobotcya
22:40.10halfhalogot fancy search removal working for the new patches portal
22:40.43PatrickC_PreI will still be lurking on the Pre+ though :)
22:41.45dkirker1now infobot just needs to show up in #webos...
22:42.13PatrickC_Prethat would be awesome! lol
22:52.20rsanchez1then infobot will show up on PreCentral, then on your phone, then your computer...
22:52.26rsanchez1pretty soon it will be skynet all over again
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23:00.23dtzWillfactinfo zsoc
23:00.27dtzWill~factinfo zsoc
23:00.27infobotzsoc -- created by zsoc <n=zsoc@unaffiliated/zsoc> at Mon Jan  4 18:26:31 2010 (406 days); last modified at Wed Mar  3 06:47:49 2010 by zsoc|away!~lll@unaffiliated/zsoc; it has been requested 13 times, last by zsoc, 22m 16s ago.
23:00.31dtzWillO=
23:00.36halfhalolulz
23:00.38dtzWilllol
23:03.43zsoci did not say i had parachute pants D:
23:04.12dtzWillzsoc: probably someone else did, but you touched it up slightly later.
23:04.18zsoci see :>
23:04.50dtzWillzsoc: how's it been? haven't seen you in a bit :D
23:09.35zsocdtzWill: tired ._.
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23:44.29dtzWillzsoc: :(
23:44.46dtzWillme too. just took a nap at my desk >_>
23:47.52zsocdtzWill: have a kid
23:48.30dtzWillzsoc: no thanks.
23:48.32dtzWillnot anytime soon O:)
23:49.02dtzWillwifey first, and that's a way's off too :)
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23:52.19joebpreare you guys awake lol
23:53.27dtzWill|zzzz...nopes
23:53.38zsoc|sc2nope
23:54.56dkirker1hi zsoc|sc2
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