| 00:02.15 | Loudergood | hey-o |
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| 00:37.47 | *** join/#webos-internals dan____ (18816b8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.129.107.142) |
| 00:37.51 | dan____ | hello |
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| 00:38.10 | dan____ | anyone want webOS 2.0.1? |
| 00:38.18 | dan____ | hey sconic |
| 00:38.22 | dan____ | sconix |
| 00:38.52 | dan____ | anyone here> |
| 00:39.31 | dan____ | elo? |
| 00:39.49 | halfhalo | myyyeees? |
| 00:41.42 | dan____ | hi |
| 00:41.48 | dan____ | hal halo? |
| 00:42.13 | halfhalo | thats mostly my name |
| 00:42.27 | dan____ | what carrier and phone u got? |
| 00:42.45 | halfhalo | I have many phones and many carriers |
| 00:42.48 | dan____ | oh |
| 00:42.52 | dan____ | are u a dev? |
| 00:42.57 | halfhalo | yes |
| 00:43.10 | dan____ | what have you made for the pre? |
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| 00:43.41 | halfhalo | long ago and far away I made steam friends, but now its mostly private stuff |
| 00:43.48 | dan____ | kewl |
| 00:43.56 | dan____ | what should I do with the webOS drs? |
| 00:44.13 | dan____ | I can;t believe I got em before everyone else |
| 00:44.19 | halfhalo | what doctors? |
| 00:44.50 | dan____ | 2.0.1 sprint verizon and att |
| 00:44.56 | Tibfib | don't do anything with them. saying you have them and are willing to share them is a violation of the nda you signed and you could be prosecuted. |
| 00:45.02 | dan____ | I just flashed my pre minus |
| 00:45.05 | dan____ | seems ligit |
| 00:45.17 | dan____ | it's leaked |
| 00:45.23 | halfhalo | where? |
| 00:45.23 | dan____ | I didn;t sign anything |
| 00:45.28 | scoutcamper|sick | dan____, dont violate an NDA here. |
| 00:45.29 | dan____ | I'm just a random pre fan |
| 00:46.07 | dan____ | ok |
| 00:46.07 | scoutcamper|sick | dan____, where did you get them from? developer.palm.com ? |
| 00:46.19 | dan____ | someone sent me a URL to an FTP site |
| 00:46.26 | dan____ | it was a palm site |
| 00:46.32 | dan____ | by the time I clicke it |
| 00:46.35 | dan____ | link was dead |
| 00:46.43 | dan____ | google search for parts of the URL |
| 00:46.47 | scoutcamper|sick | dan____, that is a severe NDA violation |
| 00:46.54 | dan____ | turned up a chinese site that was hosting the drs |
| 00:47.03 | dan____ | I have sprint and ATT |
| 00:47.13 | dan____ | donwloading verizon now |
| 00:47.48 | dan____ | scrach that |
| 00:47.50 | dan____ | no verizon |
| 00:47.54 | dan____ | just sprint and ATT |
| 00:48.28 | scoutcamper|sick | dan____, please email the link to pdc@palm.com and explain what you did |
| 00:48.31 | halfhalo | holy crap |
| 00:48.37 | halfhalo | I never though of that |
| 00:48.44 | dan____ | lol |
| 00:48.51 | dan____ | did i give u an idea hal? |
| 00:50.08 | halfhalo | thats a huge security hole in ea |
| 00:50.55 | scoutcamper|sick | dan____, do not share link here, please report it to the address i gave you above |
| 00:51.02 | dan____ | ok will do |
| 00:51.09 | dan____ | I was just messing with you guys |
| 00:51.22 | dan____ | I have no doctors |
| 00:53.40 | dan____ | what's PCD? |
| 00:53.44 | dan____ | @palm.com |
| 00:55.36 | scoutcamper|sick | spammer ... |
| 00:55.42 | scoutcamper|sick | halfhalo, you aggree? |
| 00:55.57 | halfhalo | no, just someone who thought he was l33t |
| 00:56.06 | Tibfib | wonders who has banning powers.. |
| 00:56.08 | scoutcamper|sick | that too |
| 00:56.10 | halfhalo | was trying to bait him into it earlier... |
| 00:56.16 | Tibfib | sorry bout that :] |
| 00:56.24 | scoutcamper|sick | Tibfib, anyone with +V |
| 00:56.44 | scoutcamper|sick | Tibfib, if you use xchat they have the yellow dot next to their neame |
| 00:56.54 | Tibfib | yeah, I see em |
| 00:57.20 | Tibfib | it wasn't really a serious question |
| 00:57.31 | scoutcamper|sick | lol |
| 00:57.51 | Tibfib | more of a hint :) |
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| 01:22.05 | Pre_guy | helo? |
| 01:22.12 | halfhalo | hi |
| 01:22.30 | Pre_guy | did the pre 2 ever get access to preware? |
| 01:22.36 | halfhalo | yes |
| 01:22.39 | Pre_guy | how? |
| 01:22.52 | halfhalo | magic? |
| 01:22.55 | Pre_guy | lol |
| 01:22.57 | Pre_guy | comeone |
| 01:23.01 | rwhitby | palm-install |
| 01:23.25 | Pre_guy | woh hey rob your awesome |
| 01:23.41 | rwhitby | s/rob/rod/ |
| 01:23.49 | Pre_guy | shit |
| 01:23.57 | Pre_guy | celebrities make me nervious |
| 01:24.02 | scoutcamper|sick | rwhitby, infobot doesnt work like that lol |
| 01:24.27 | halfhalo | goes to break infobots legs |
| 01:24.31 | Pre_guy | is palm-install something that is in the 2.0 doctor? |
| 01:25.10 | rwhitby | Pre_guy: palm-install is part of the webOS SDK. developer.palm.com - use it with the novacom drivers from the webOS 2.0.1 doctor to install Preware on the Pre 2. |
| 01:25.18 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, 2.0 doctor has novacom drivers that let it work with 1.4.5 sdk |
| 01:25.27 | scoutcamper | darn, rwhitby beat me to itr |
| 01:25.52 | Pre_guy | I already have the web-OS 2.0 dr do I need anything elkse? |
| 01:26.02 | Pre_guy | I have the 1.4.5 sdk installed |
| 01:26.09 | rwhitby | what host OS ? |
| 01:26.14 | Pre_guy | w7 64 |
| 01:26.31 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, rename the doctor .jar to .zip and open it |
| 01:26.38 | Pre_guy | it's open |
| 01:27.05 | Tibfib | has found the secret to getting rwhitby's help, call him a celeb :) |
| 01:27.18 | Pre_guy | lol |
| 01:27.54 | Pre_guy | this file? NovacomInstaller.pkg.tar.gz |
| 01:28.07 | Pre_guy | or is it this one :P sprint.tar |
| 01:28.24 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, look under resources |
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| 01:28.33 | ajay | hola! |
| 01:28.38 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, do you have a pre2? |
| 01:28.46 | Pre_guy | novacomx64.msi? |
| 01:28.53 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, thats it |
| 01:28.54 | Pre_guy | nope |
| 01:29.11 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, then why need 2.0 novacom drivers? |
| 01:29.17 | ajay | has the optware update already been discussed? |
| 01:29.29 | Pre_guy | caus eI want 2.0.1 on my sprint pre |
| 01:29.46 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, how do you plan on doing that? |
| 01:29.54 | Pre_guy | secret doctors |
| 01:30.02 | Pre_guy | will be launched on feb 9 |
| 01:30.06 | ajay | secret, doctor man, secret, doctor man.. |
| 01:30.16 | Pre_guy | but it's a secret so |
| 01:30.18 | Pre_guy | shhh lol |
| 01:30.26 | scoutcamper | Pre_guy, you assume this or have NDA violating info? |
| 01:30.40 | Pre_guy | NDAs are boring |
| 01:30.46 | ajay | He's the pre_guy, of course he knows |
| 01:30.46 | scoutcamper | ajay, its just The Doctor |
| 01:31.05 | ajay | ? |
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| 01:31.17 | scoutcamper | wonders how many people got the doctor pho reference |
| 01:31.30 | Pre_guy | BTW this novocom installer 64.msi in the 2.0 dr... is this all I need to install preware as normal on a 2.0 device? |
| 01:31.30 | scoutcamper | s/pho/who/ |
| 01:31.31 | halfhalo | Pre_guy: I hope you know that this channel is regularly reviewed by palm employees, and that your ip is logged, and we know you are the same guy as before |
| 01:31.36 | ajay | I was thinking about dr.who, but didn't quite see that reference being seemless here.. ;^) |
| 01:31.53 | Pre_guy | oh no |
| 01:31.55 | rwhitby | Pre_guy: please re-read the channel topic |
| 01:32.11 | Pre_guy | of cause I have a pre to |
| 01:32.15 | Pre_guy | Pre two |
| 01:33.07 | halfhalo | mumbles something about server logs and banning devices based off of nuids |
| 01:33.22 | Pre_guy | nuids? |
| 01:34.20 | halfhalo | unique device id's |
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| 01:35.13 | ajay | Doesn't seem like the livelog covers today yet(?) I tried to do the optware update, and it .. broke |
| 01:35.19 | Pre_guy | hey half meet me @ another channel? |
| 01:35.32 | halfhalo | why.... |
| 01:35.42 | rwhitby | ajay: livelog should be up to date |
| 01:35.52 | ajay | oh |
| 01:36.09 | rwhitby | ajay: what broke? that was changed a couple of weeks ago, but probably hasn't had a lot of testing other than what I did |
| 01:36.25 | ajay | In that case, I tried to do the optware update on my 1.4.5 device which was metadoctored with INCREASE_VAR_SPACE enabled, and it preware kicked out a bunch of errors |
| 01:36.34 | halfhalo | Pre_guy: why |
| 01:36.56 | Pre_guy | no real reason |
| 01:37.01 | Pre_guy | too many ppl here |
| 01:37.32 | rwhitby | ajay: did you catch the errors? |
| 01:38.01 | ajay | rwhitby: Yeah. they're prob still on device i imagine. |
| 01:38.27 | rwhitby | ajay: I'm interested in seeing them. |
| 01:38.41 | halfhalo | at least he DID do something useful, which was report the big security hole |
| 01:38.50 | ajay | I still have them on screen if not, basically it tried to rm /var/opt, which wasn't empty, then a bunch of FS full errors |
| 01:38.57 | ajay | k, lesse.. |
| 01:39.10 | scoutcamper | halfhalo, he'll be back |
| 01:39.13 | scoutcamper | im sure |
| 01:39.29 | scoutcamper | trolls dont quit that easy |
| 01:39.48 | ajay | is preware's ipkg log on device? I don't see it in /var/log |
| 01:39.55 | rwhitby | well, your confrontational attitude usually causes them to stay longer |
| 01:40.05 | rwhitby | ajay: it is not |
| 01:40.07 | ajay | wishes he could come up with a snappy pop culture reference involving trolls not quitting |
| 01:41.14 | scoutcamper | rwhitby, i was following halfhalo's orders :D |
| 01:41.38 | ajay | rwhitby: oh there's an email option, nice! Just sent to you, hope that's cool with you |
| 01:41.44 | rwhitby | ajay: yep |
| 01:41.53 | ajay | why no on-device log? |
| 01:42.52 | oil | is laziness a good enough excuse? |
| 01:43.48 | dtzWill | hmm |
| 01:44.22 | halfhalo | high fives oil |
| 01:44.31 | ajay | dtzwill! oh long time no chat (was just thinking of X yesterday.. ;^) |
| 01:44.50 | oil | well |
| 01:44.52 | oil | that and mojo can't write a file |
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| 01:46.33 | scoutcamper | halfhalo, maybe he wont be back :( |
| 01:46.44 | ajay | rwhitby: ok sent |
| 01:46.52 | dtzWill | ajay: 'ello! good to see you too :) |
| 01:46.58 | halfhalo | can live with that |
| 01:47.28 | scoutcamper | halfhalo, but i enjoy messsing with trolls |
| 01:48.38 | ajay | scoutcamper: you shoulda taken him to a private channel, since half wouldn't.. ;^) |
| 01:48.45 | halfhalo | only when there is no real convo going on |
| 01:49.01 | rwhitby | ajay: that's not good |
| 01:49.30 | rwhitby | ajay: the rmdir /var/opt is expected, but the No space errors are not |
| 01:49.59 | rwhitby | it's supposed to be copying into the newly-created loopfs mounted 64MB file mounted on /opt |
| 01:50.13 | scoutcamper | ajay, i didnt want to be cyber raped lol |
| 01:50.48 | rwhitby | ajay: the good news is that /var/opt should still be intact |
| 01:51.09 | rwhitby | (I programmed it so that if it failed to copy, the source was left alone) |
| 01:51.27 | rwhitby | ajay: so go in there and work out why /opt is not mouting from the loopfs file |
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| 01:55.21 | ajay | scoutcamper: haha |
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| 02:03.41 | rwhitby | So, any reason why latest testing Preware, Save/Restore, UberKernel and Govnah cannot be pushed to public releases? |
| 02:08.34 | ajay | rwhitby: Yeah I noticed /var/opt looks good, that was good to know/see |
| 02:08.50 | rwhitby | ajay: defensive programming FTW |
| 02:11.59 | ajay | rwhitby:heh. it mounts fine.. next.. |
| 02:12.07 | ajay | (to try the copy) |
| 02:12.46 | rwhitby | oil: I think Impostah should display cookies next |
| 02:12.52 | ajay | rwhitby: oh its simple, my /var/opt is 135.2M |
| 02:13.21 | rwhitby | ah, ok. |
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| 02:13.29 | oil | "Impostah: Yes, even the kitchen sink" |
| 02:13.39 | rwhitby | ajay: you can resize the loopfs file then |
| 02:13.46 | scoutcamper | oil, i like the wikileaks one |
| 02:13.48 | ajay | rwhitby: So my original suggestion was going to be: Check if they're meta-doctored (VAR_SIZE increased) |
| 02:14.31 | rwhitby | oil: "More Internals than Internalz" |
| 02:14.33 | ajay | what's the reason for this loopback FS? |
| 02:14.46 | rwhitby | ajay: /var is much smaller on webOS 2.0 |
| 02:14.53 | ajay | I really like having a big /var |
| 02:15.24 | ajay | err, /opt i should say |
| 02:16.09 | scoutcamper | Impostah: "More info than Wikileaks" |
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| 02:17.18 | rwhitby | ajay: I'm open to the postinst detecting a huge /var and leaving it alone if you write and test the code. |
| 02:17.21 | ajay | rwhitby: i mean, if someone is meta-doctored to have a big /var then this shouldn't be required, right? (AKA is there any other advantage/reason for opt being in a loopbackfs?) |
| 02:17.39 | ajay | damn you answered my q before i finished writing it.. ;^) |
| 02:18.01 | rwhitby | ajay: note that if you've metadoctored to a huge /var, then the OTA to 2.0 may be problematic |
| 02:18.09 | ajay | (it was a reask, so that makes sense..) |
| 02:18.14 | rwhitby | but you may not care if you're metadoctored |
| 02:19.19 | ajay | rwhitby: oh! good tip, I hadn't thought about that. So I'll probably backup, try the 2.0 OTA, and if fail, metadoctor to 2.x. |
| 02:20.04 | ajay | rwhitby: Is metadoctor 2.0-ready? |
| 02:20.45 | rwhitby | ajay: yes |
| 02:22.55 | ajay | sweet! |
| 02:25.15 | ajay | rwhitby: One of the reasons I did the INCREASE_VAR_SIZE was to install more progs (unison, X11, etc), will there be an easy way for people to make their /opts? |
| 02:25.19 | ajay | bigger |
| 02:25.42 | ajay | (I guess maybe requires some techie knowledge of increasing the size of the loopback, maybe not so difficult..) |
| 02:25.56 | rwhitby | ajay: yeah, I was going to do an optware package which just resizes the loopfs file |
| 02:26.03 | ajay | nice! |
| 02:26.11 | ajay | you're like, so on top of it.. ;^) |
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| 02:27.18 | rwhitby | well, I tested the procedure, but haven't done the package yet. |
| 02:27.26 | rwhitby | and probably won't get around to it :) |
| 02:31.43 | ajay | rwhitby: well, what I'm saying is you're already did the work before I asked you about it, that's on top of it if you ask me ! :) |
| 02:32.16 | rwhitby | 64M is just a default choice for those who will only install openssh |
| 02:32.35 | rwhitby | those who are going to install lots more stuff can handle the command line to resize it |
| 02:33.16 | ajay | yeah that's what I was saying earlier, reqs some techie knowledge |
| 02:33.27 | ajay | that's prob fair |
| 02:34.10 | rwhitby | ajay: so did the space failure leave your device in a working state, with the old optware running as before, just refusing to install the update? |
| 02:35.46 | ajay | rwhitby: I'm not sure what optware does when running, i left preware on the screen on the error |
| 02:37.53 | rwhitby | well, on reboot whether /opt is still a bind mount from /var/opt |
| 02:38.59 | ajay | oh haha, i just realized i can't copy the file to edit it from the device because of this.. ;^) |
| 02:52.47 | ajay | gah life is so difficult when you've got flakey wifi and a a flakey usb cable!! |
| 02:55.43 | ajay | hm, reading the script looks like it would have deleted the profile and upstart scripts, damn shoulda looked to make sure before rebooting |
| 02:56.57 | ajay | rwhitby: Does this optware update make changes to the profile and upstart scripts? |
| 02:58.19 | rwhitby | eys |
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| 03:06.36 | ajay | hm, k |
| 03:07.17 | ajay | rwhitby: is optware in git? don't see it |
| 03:10.07 | ajay | strange, post-reboot preware doesn't even show that optware needs to be updated. crap |
| 03:10.36 | ajay | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:12.41 | rwhitby | ajay: testing-optware/bootstrap |
| 03:15.40 | ajay | I only see 1 revision for profile, 2 for upstart. correct? |
| 03:22.01 | rwhitby | probably |
| 03:25.51 | ajay | hrmm.. i was thinking that if they already have a big /var i would leave the upstart and profile scripts as-is since all is working, but if i can't get the older versions.. |
| 03:28.04 | ajay | too bad (And weird) that i didn't get this update until today, since I just doctored yesterday.. definitely woulda been easier to resize the filesystem loopfs than change this script.. heh.. i'm surprised i'm the only one who's increased VAR_SIZE tho |
| 03:33.24 | rwhitby | ajay: old versions are in the non-testing optware bootstrap |
| 03:33.40 | ajay | oh |
| 03:33.42 | rwhitby | you must have been installing the alpha testing version |
| 03:34.05 | ajay | weird |
| 03:37.30 | ajay | ah yes. perfect |
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| 03:43.06 | ajay | what's webOS's default /var size? (1.4.5 and 2.x) 256 and 64 resp, right? |
| 03:44.27 | rwhitby | something like that |
| 03:46.37 | ajay | hrmm.. i wonder if there needs to be 2 conditions.. (one for each OS ver) |
| 03:47.27 | ajay | oh my, this is getting sticky.. and checking if /opt is outside of /var.. |
| 03:47.57 | ajay | (sticky meaning wondering if i should check for greater than 64 and call it good, or > 64 if 2.0 and > 256 if <=1.4.5..) |
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| 03:55.27 | ajay | oh crap sh not bash huh, gah |
| 04:01.39 | halfhalo | hearts zsh |
| 04:10.30 | ajay | is boycotting Palm until they release their toaster |
| 04:15.24 | ajay | rwhitby: I have to totally change the logic of your scripts for this.. ;^) |
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| 04:32.09 | ajay | am I the only that thinks that the webOS bootie themes page should have images on it? |
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| 05:03.10 | ajay | hmm, i guess palm-package isn't how webos-internals rolls.. ;^) |
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| 05:11.55 | ajay | i wonder if freetether could do a reverse-tether |
| 05:12.15 | ajay | (cuz mah wifi sucks here! but i got a hardline into the comp from the src!) |
| 05:24.11 | ajay | I thought I had a dev device for a reason, but just realized I didn't INCREASE_VAR_SIZE on it! gah |
| 05:24.26 | ajay | well, it's dinner time, ttfn! |
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| 06:20.14 | sethron | save/restore 1.3.0 throw this error during Frootrees 2011-01-19T06:35:05.797790Z [185950] palm-webos-device user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: org.webosinternals.saverestore: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of undefined, palmInitFramework347:14045 |
| 06:23.19 | sethron | it acts as if is saves, but there is no restore, and upon relauch displays No archives available |
| 06:23.30 | rwhitby | sethron: hmm - doesn't seem to be related to the individual package |
| 06:24.05 | sethron | it's version 1.1.2 of Frootrees |
| 06:26.24 | rwhitby | what does Lumberjack report for dbus traffic during that? |
| 06:28.06 | sethron | sorry, not sure how to capture that |
| 06:30.09 | sethron | com.palm.luna -> org.webosinternals.saverestore //save string={"id":"com.jakyl.frootrees","subscribe":true},string=org.webosinternals.saverestore 1255 |
| 06:34.21 | rwhitby | and the return ? |
| 06:34.22 | sethron | com.palm.luna <- org.webosinternals.saverestore /com/palm/luna/private/cancel string={"token":1703} |
| 06:34.58 | rwhitby | that's the ack. there should be a return for 1255 |
| 06:36.32 | sethron | com.palm.luna <- org.webosinternals.saveretore string={"stdOut":[20110119T222803-0800"],"returnValue";true} |
| 06:36.54 | rwhitby | that says it worked |
| 06:37.11 | bhuey | folks |
| 06:37.27 | bhuey | got word that a leaked version of 2.1.0 came out on Sprint devices |
| 06:37.35 | sethron | hrm, i may have unistalled and reinstalled Frootrees |
| 06:37.47 | rwhitby | you should find a zip file in that timestamped directory under /media/internal/saverestore/com.jakl.frootrees/20110119T222803-800.zip |
| 06:38.45 | rwhitby | bhuey: two isolated reports. I'm calling some glitch in the update server. |
| 06:39.12 | sethron | folder is empty |
| 06:39.35 | rwhitby | oh, have you run frootrees and is there something to save? |
| 06:40.05 | sethron | yes |
| 06:40.47 | sethron | high score 684 |
| 06:44.40 | bhuey | rwhitby: hopeful sign regardless |
| 06:45.07 | bhuey | I hoep it runs the db operations way faster than it current does |
| 06:45.12 | sethron | lunberjack log : 2011-01-20T06:43:20.685150Z [73414] palm-webos-device user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: org.webosinternals.saverestore: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of undefined, palmInitFramework347:14045 |
| 06:45.30 | bhuey | any substantial objects for the messenging app puts a lot of metadata bits into that db |
| 06:45.37 | rwhitby | sethron: that error message is unrelated |
| 06:47.47 | sethron | rwhitby: well, if there are no others with this issue, then it's all me. |
| 06:49.11 | cryptk | rwhitby, installing F14 on Pre2, device had UberKernel on it... isn't it supposed to be able to remove UK and install F14? |
| 06:49.18 | rwhitby | no |
| 06:49.22 | cryptk | or am I supposed to have to manually remove UK before installing |
| 06:49.26 | cryptk | ahh, ok... |
| 06:49.26 | rwhitby | yes |
| 06:49.44 | cryptk | so the bypassing of verification is only for updating from one version of kernel to another version of the same kernel? |
| 06:49.46 | rwhitby | why would one package update a completely unrelated package |
| 06:50.05 | rwhitby | patch foo doesn't affect patch bar, right? |
| 06:50.07 | cryptk | not sure why I thought it would do it... lol |
| 06:50.16 | cryptk | well, kernel and kernel |
| 06:50.20 | rwhitby | patch and patch |
| 06:50.30 | rwhitby | app and app |
| 06:51.10 | cryptk | should we make AUKT able to realize that you are runnign a different non-stock kernel and then do the verification against the stock kernel file backup, then maybe remove previous mod kernel (restoring backup) perhaps one more verification then install? |
| 06:52.50 | rwhitby | no |
| 06:52.56 | cryptk | kk |
| 06:55.34 | cryptk | blargh... F14 no bootie.... |
| 06:55.39 | cryptk | why do I always get weak devices... |
| 06:57.23 | cryptk | oooh, rebooted and it looks like it may be coming up |
| 07:02.46 | cryptk | yep, the no-boot appears to be a fluke |
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| 16:29.17 | halfhalo | has a new shiny private cloud to play with |
| 16:31.03 | halfhalo | well, once I find a better webui I will anywho |
| 16:41.29 | destinal | halfhalo: it's so funny that everything's a cloud now. |
| 16:41.50 | halfhalo | yeah |
| 16:42.05 | halfhalo | finally got eucalyptus running on a server here at work tho |
| 16:43.25 | ka6sox | gum trees make such a mess....why would I want them on my server? |
| 16:43.57 | halfhalo | lol |
| 16:44.09 | halfhalo | has api compatible s3 storage as well! |
| 16:45.08 | destinal | halfhalo: so what, basically you can write code for amazon's cloud service and the same code will work in your private cloud system too? |
| 16:45.17 | halfhalo | pretty much |
| 16:46.13 | destinal | I guess it's good in that enterprises become more turnkey / plug and play and individual teams can develop to a standard api / service set |
| 16:47.12 | halfhalo | yeah |
| 16:47.32 | halfhalo | and with the s3 clone we don't have to worry about file hosting/load anymore |
| 16:47.47 | halfhalo | actually used rm -rf / in real life just now |
| 16:50.33 | halfhalo | crap.... forgot about grub... |
| 16:50.43 | halfhalo | now has to break grub to make everything work |
| 16:57.02 | halfhalo | is screwed |
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| 16:57.35 | geist | ec2 ftw |
| 16:57.43 | halfhalo | can't fix this |
| 16:57.48 | geist | i fooled around with some instances the other day, now i just need to figure out what to do with it |
| 16:58.31 | halfhalo | s3/walrus has native torrent support, which is coo |
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| 17:00.48 | halfhalo | grrr stupid bios pw |
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| 17:07.11 | halfhalo | is about || close to breaking into this desktop to get rid of the stupid bios pw which he does not have |
| 17:07.12 | RagingMind | screwdrivers can fix that |
| 17:07.44 | halfhalo | except it apparently has intrusion detection enabled |
| 17:07.58 | RagingMind | that could be awkward |
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| 17:18.24 | bcolbs | does any one know if there is an engineering mode for the palm pre like net monitro for nokia phones? |
| 17:20.22 | RagingMind | bcolbs, what's special about their engineering modes? |
| 17:21.37 | RagingMind | a patch to turn on bluetooth whenever the phone is put on a touchstone would be pretty nifty |
| 17:21.47 | bcolbs | to be honest I'm really new to this but i have to preform call testing for t-mobile sites and need to be able to monitor cell id's nieghbor cells rx and stuff like that |
| 17:23.11 | RagingMind | I haven't heard of anything like that... |
| 17:23.49 | destinal | bcolbs: I think there's a GSM diag code you can put into the dialer but I don't know offhand |
| 17:24.28 | RagingMind | anyone know of a mostly complete list of the special codes for the dialer? |
| 17:25.51 | bcolbs | Destinal your right and i have been able to use that however I need to also monitor when I'm idle or on a dedicated call. Nokia's Net Monitor let's you do this but I was hoping to do it from my Pre |
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| 17:26.24 | destinal | bcolbs: I mean, there's a code for the pre too but I don't know offhand what it is or how much info it gives you |
| 17:26.48 | bcolbs | the sprint code to see it ##33284 then press talk |
| 17:27.24 | RagingMind | go go google! http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Hash_Codes |
| 17:27.39 | RagingMind | for some reason I couldn't find that page the last time I searched *shrugs* |
| 17:27.54 | bcolbs | it gives all the information but you cant dial another number when you are using it. i didn't know if someone has created an app for this type of thing yet |
| 17:30.12 | RagingMind | can you make the call then type in the debug thing as a second number? |
| 17:32.04 | bcolbs | Yes. Unfortunately it resides in the phone app itself so it makes it difficult to do real testing because if i'm not mistaken the debug is actually is an active call and not just idle correct? |
| 17:32.32 | bcolbs | Thanks for that list by the way |
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| 17:34.41 | RagingMind | heh, now I'm playing with the codes. but I have a cdma phone and the debug one doesn't do anything |
| 17:35.24 | RagingMind | someday I'll probably tinker my phone into an electronic coma |
| 17:36.25 | bcolbs | i wish there was a way to put this in app and use the dialer like normal. or a patch where you can just see these stas from the top bar drop down menu |
| 17:36.40 | bcolbs | Yeah be careful\ |
| 17:38.02 | RagingMind | even when I had a RAZR I was constantly fiddling with things and special modes. it's my nature |
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| 18:18.11 | RagingMind | bcolbs, did you try asking in #webos? |
| 18:21.33 | bcolbs | no i will try there. thanks |
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| 18:27.04 | RagingMind | looking through the hash codes I'm pleasantly surprised to find ##cellardoor# |
| 18:41.01 | cryptk | RagingMind, that hash code does nothing on my device /dunno |
| 18:41.23 | RagingMind | I just saw it in the list, it made me happy |
| 18:41.39 | cryptk | heh, well at least on my Pre2 it is non-functional |
| 18:41.49 | cryptk | as far as I can tell |
| 18:41.56 | halfhalo | DUNDUNDUN |
| 18:42.02 | cryptk | for all I know it is silently formatting my rootfs as we speak, lol |
| 18:42.23 | halfhalo | DUNDUNDUN |
| 18:42.52 | halfhalo | goes back to adding a node to eucalyptus |
| 18:44.02 | halfhalo | because it is the awesome |
| 18:44.28 | RagingMind | on mine it toggles and experimental mode and I have no clue what that is/does |
| 18:44.53 | RagingMind | cryptk, did you enter ## or #*? |
| 18:45.03 | cryptk | ## |
| 18:45.14 | cryptk | like all other hash codes on my device (it's CDMA) |
| 18:45.16 | RagingMind | gsm phones use #* |
| 18:45.25 | cryptk | my Pre2 is not GSM, it's CDMA |
| 18:45.25 | RagingMind | you said pre2? |
| 18:45.31 | RagingMind | ah |
| 18:45.45 | cryptk | I swapped it (last night actually) |
| 18:46.05 | halfhalo | crazy hacker people with their 'swapping' and their 'kernels' and their 'pants' |
| 18:46.11 | RagingMind | swapped the radio? |
| 18:46.56 | RagingMind | the controls for hash codes are in the .js files for the dialer app, so unless those are swapped too, you probably still need #* maybe? |
| 18:48.06 | cryptk | RagingMind, nope, it is reflashed etc |
| 18:48.11 | cryptk | my codes on my Pre2 are ## |
| 18:48.21 | cryptk | ##DEVMODE# works, #*DEVMODE# does not |
| 18:49.08 | cryptk | lol @ halfhalo |
| 18:49.39 | halfhalo | :D |
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| 20:33.57 | sethron | ping ka6sox |
| 20:37.21 | ka6sox | sethron, pong? |
| 20:37.53 | sethron | ka6sox: www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/ how can I help? |
| 20:38.38 | rwhitby | bcolbs: yes, there is a DM monitor tool in the AT&T GSM 1.4.5 doctor which has engineering mode functionality |
| 20:39.18 | ka6sox | sethron, we will need help manning the booth. |
| 20:39.51 | ka6sox | answering questions, showing people how cool our devices are :D |
| 20:39.54 | SineOtter | haha |
| 20:40.03 | SineOtter | ka6sox: I'd be down for that... I think |
| 20:40.08 | rwhitby | ka6sox: looks like @christefano wants to help too |
| 20:40.20 | sethron | ka6sox: i'm down |
| 20:40.45 | ka6sox | SineOtter, okay kewl |
| 20:41.02 | halfhalo | this will end badly... AWESOME |
| 20:41.23 | ka6sox | ~lart halfhalo |
| 20:41.23 | infobot | tries to shut halfhalo up |
| 20:41.31 | halfhalo | :p |
| 20:41.33 | SineOtter | actually, no I won't! |
| 20:41.46 | SineOtter | or wait |
| 20:41.49 | SineOtter | yes I will |
| 20:41.55 | SineOtter | lol I'll get it figured out later :p |
| 20:41.59 | ka6sox | kay |
| 20:42.14 | ka6sox | lart is MEAN. |
| 20:42.15 | SineOtter | need to figure out my school schedule that weekend |
| 20:42.32 | SineOtter | and on that note, off to classes I go |
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| 20:43.42 | halfhalo | hehehe... |
| 20:44.44 | halfhalo | OFF TO JERSEY MIKES! |
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