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| 00:23.49 | Minchkin | How do I get to the Palm SDK on Ubuntu? |
| 00:24.04 | Minchkin | It is downloaded and installed... Hmmm |
| 00:24.31 | rwhitby | oil: heh, no, in that case it's an intelligence tax |
| 00:27.41 | Tibfib | lol |
| 00:33.47 | destinal | Minchkin: all the docs on how to use SDK are on developer.palm.com. there's not a single sdk icon but various features. |
| 00:33.59 | destinal | most of which available from command line |
| 00:34.40 | Minchkin | I see that now... Dang. Started the Emulator and now I have to roll back VirtualBox. |
| 00:34.47 | Minchkin | Any clue how to do that? |
| 00:35.07 | Minchkin | Nvrmnd |
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| 01:11.44 | Tibfib | what's the easiest and fastest way to ssh into my pre 2? |
| 01:13.13 | rwhitby | Tibfib: OpenSSH from Preware + setup keys. But I usually just use novaterm myself. |
| 01:13.30 | Tibfib | I'd have to do the windows method, right? |
| 01:13.32 | Minchkin | How the hell do I make a workspace directory?? |
| 01:14.49 | rwhitby | "mkdir ~/workspace" ? |
| 01:15.04 | Minchkin | Oh. Hmm |
| 01:16.15 | destinal | Tibfib: by easiest and fastest, do you prefer sshing in with a password rather than keys? |
| 01:16.48 | Tibfib | I do prefer a password, but I think novaterm'll do it |
| 01:17.01 | Tibfib | just need to copy over my app to the usb drive so I can grab it |
| 01:17.39 | destinal | Tibfib: you can copy it to the device with novacom put file:///media/internal/whatever-file < whatever-file |
| 01:17.40 | destinal | also |
| 01:19.14 | destinal | Tibfib: what are you trying to do with the file on the device? |
| 01:19.56 | Tibfib | I got it! I was trying to transfer my installed app to the usb drive so I can grab it for my computer. |
| 01:20.14 | Tibfib | now to figure out why the crap the installed version works and my emu doesn't! |
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| 02:14.27 | Tibfib | FINALLY figured it out |
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| 02:24.22 | Minchkin | Someone want to REALLY teach me how to code an app? |
| 02:24.39 | Minchkin | Like what are the different commands when coding and things like that.... |
| 02:25.40 | Minchkin | Oh... And the Palm-inspector command isn't working |
| 02:29.03 | semprance | is the emulator running? |
| 02:30.31 | semprance | also if you want to look at how a simple app works, use palm-generate to create the hello world app |
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| 02:36.08 | Minchkin | Yeah. The app was running in inspector mode too... |
| 02:36.17 | Minchkin | I don't get what is going on... |
| 02:36.42 | Minchkin | It gives me this: palm-inspector: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.38: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 02:37.54 | Tibfib | Minchkin: search around the precentral.net webOS Development forum, there are a few tutorials |
| 02:38.03 | Minchkin | Ok. Thx |
| 02:38.04 | Tibfib | and webOS dev stuff is more for #webOS |
| 02:38.24 | Tibfib | at least you're more likely to get mojo related help there |
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| 03:01.58 | TayTaBBB | anyone here? |
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| 03:05.26 | sega01 | hey everyone |
| 03:05.41 | sega01 | is there a patch to make the mail client accept invalid SSL certs? |
| 03:06.23 | sega01 | hrm, i guessed i could have checked that on preware while mail was up |
| 03:07.57 | sega01 | i don't see anything in preware for it |
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| 03:10.44 | sega01 | or i guess, self signed more rather |
| 03:12.19 | sega01 | ah, i'll try this: http://forums.palm.com/t5/Wireless-Email/Palm-Pre-SMTPS-SSL-Self-Signed-Certificate-w-Sendmail-amp/m-p/242347/highlight/true#M10011 |
| 03:20.47 | sega01 | i copied the crt file with no luck. i' |
| 03:21.05 | sega01 | *i'm no SSL expert though, and i'm not sure how the SSL library in the pre's works |
| 03:27.00 | sega01 | any ideas? |
| 03:29.29 | Minchkin | Rick-home: Do you have an idea on how to help this poor guy? |
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| 04:14.49 | rick-home | Minchkin -- sorry I was spaced out. |
| 04:14.54 | rick-home | sega01 you still here? |
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| 04:59.59 | rick-home | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-and-Notebooks/HP-WebOS-Tablet-Now-Super-Likely-for-Feb-8-831186/ |
| 05:02.16 | Tibfib | dang, I'm excited for the tablet |
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| 05:04.10 | PuyffTheMagic | where did they get the 8th? |
| 05:04.56 | rick-home | typo |
| 05:06.12 | Jack87 | is dreaming of WebOS TVs.... HP did make TVs for awhile prolly still do! |
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| 05:06.35 | rick-home | ho can license webOS onto lg tv's. |
| 05:06.55 | Jack87 | rick-home, why LG TVs? |
| 05:07.00 | rick-home | wants Phil McKinney's roll-printed touchscreen display tech as his wallpaper. |
| 05:07.45 | rick-home | When Phil was at dev day in nyc, he kept making gestures in relation to the idea of large screen webos devices that were... how best to describe this... "large" |
| 05:08.25 | Jack87 | used to sell these at costco http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=HP+TV&hl=en&prmd=ivns&resnum=3&biw=1440&bih=788&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=12813229303284003061&ei=LX0yTdTVE5G0sAO3p6G-BQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CGIQ8wIwAA# |
| 05:08.53 | Jack87 | they were a lot less money than that though |
| 05:10.02 | Jack87 | idea of HP TVs with webos sounds very real |
| 05:10.13 | Jack87 | netflix for webos will follow |
| 05:10.45 | sega01 | rick-home: i'm back |
| 05:10.51 | rick-home | yeah... but see, Phil was doing things like gesturing at an 8 foot folding table... |
| 05:11.05 | rick-home | think of it as a three meter diagonal screen. |
| 05:11.44 | Jack87 | thinks it will replace chalk/white boards :) |
| 05:11.55 | rick-home | exactly. |
| 05:12.19 | Jack87 | hehe think about changing cards as a teacher to go to a new board |
| 05:12.36 | Jack87 | and writing with your finger! it be fun |
| 05:12.46 | rick-home | take the hp display stuff, glue it onto a 4x8 sheet of masonite, and cover it with a wear layer. |
| 05:13.10 | rick-home | sega01 -- did you solve your problem? |
| 05:13.54 | sega01 | no, i have not |
| 05:14.03 | sega01 | i copied the crt SSL cert over |
| 05:14.07 | rick-home | ok, so, fill me in. What's the issue? |
| 05:14.08 | sega01 | not sure if i need to reboot the phone or not after that |
| 05:14.27 | sega01 | the mail client in webos 1.4.5 doesn't like self signed certs |
| 05:14.42 | rick-home | what happens? |
| 05:14.46 | sega01 | only fix i saw was to copy the pem file over, but the crt seemed like it should work |
| 05:14.59 | sega01 | it gives an error, like the certificate being invalid and doesn't let you continue |
| 05:15.03 | rick-home | makes sense to me. |
| 05:15.07 | sega01 | i can try it again to give you the exact message. it's been reported a lot |
| 05:15.23 | rick-home | that's ok. Not much point unless we come up with a fix. |
| 05:15.37 | rick-home | So, you're trying a fix, but haven't re-booted? |
| 05:15.45 | sega01 | i'll do that |
| 05:15.58 | sega01 | it was just copying the .crt file to /usr/share/ssl |
| 05:16.10 | sega01 | i'm not sure what the SSL library does with them, if it needs to symlink them somewhere or do any fancy magic |
| 05:16.36 | Jack87 | reboot solves all..... (usually) |
| 05:16.47 | sega01 | ok, rebooting |
| 05:20.54 | sega01 | it gives the error again |
| 05:21.07 | sega01 | "The server's security certificate is not a trusted certificate" |
| 05:21.26 | sega01 | i've looked in preware for patches |
| 05:21.29 | rick-home | sega01 ok -- is this YOUR email site, or is it a work site or what? |
| 05:21.41 | rick-home | and is it imap or an exchange server or what? |
| 05:21.52 | sega01 | POP3, mine |
| 05:22.00 | sega01 | i can not use SSL, but i'd prefer not to |
| 05:22.17 | rick-home | oh that's ok, I'm just trying to get my head around the problem. |
| 05:22.33 | rick-home | OK, so, what's the expiration date of the cert on the server set to? |
| 05:22.44 | sega01 | i don't think it's expired, but it's self signed |
| 05:22.46 | sega01 | let me check |
| 05:22.59 | rick-home | You get the same message either way. |
| 05:24.09 | sega01 | expires in 2036 :-) |
| 05:24.16 | rick-home | ok |
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| 05:24.57 | destinal-sleep | sega01: perhaps this will work for you http://forums.palm.com/t5/Wireless-Email/Pre-IMAP-Dovecot-Success-Finally/td-p/267615 |
| 05:25.38 | rick-home | ok, now, you copied your private key to the phone ??? |
| 05:25.48 | sega01 | to /usr/share/ssl |
| 05:25.53 | sega01 | let me try that certificate manager |
| 05:27.01 | sega01 | i have no preferences or certificate manager under device info |
| 05:27.27 | rick-home | what os version are you on? |
| 05:27.35 | sega01 | 1.4.5 |
| 05:28.25 | rick-home | and you go to device info, and preferences, and you do NOT have a certificate manager? |
| 05:28.27 | rick-home | ??? |
| 05:28.55 | sega01 | phone preferences is only for network. device info has no certificate manager that i can see |
| 05:30.12 | rick-home | device manager -- menu -- ? no preferences? |
| 05:30.47 | sega01 | ohh, weird |
| 05:30.52 | sega01 | it didn't show the preferences button |
| 05:31.01 | sega01 | it was hidden under phone offline (it's not with any carrier atm) |
| 05:31.09 | rick-home | aaaaaaaahhhhh |
| 05:31.11 | rick-home | dev phone. |
| 05:31.31 | sega01 | for now, i may replace my android with it |
| 05:31.38 | sega01 | got it at work for $50 |
| 05:31.48 | rick-home | android drives me freaking up the wall nuts. |
| 05:31.52 | sega01 | cryptk has been showing me how awesome they are. i thought i couldn't go wrong with one to play with |
| 05:32.06 | sega01 | mine is a bit beat up but still outshines the android by far |
| 05:32.20 | rick-home | I will be SO happy when I get somehting other than android on this here tablet... |
| 05:32.29 | sega01 | the nook color? |
| 05:32.30 | ka6sox | table? |
| 05:32.34 | rick-home | yep. |
| 05:32.35 | ka6sox | tablet? |
| 05:32.49 | sega01 | cryptk has been showing me his. you guys have made great progress with it |
| 05:32.54 | rick-home | ka6sox I want SOMEHTING OTHER THAN ANDROID on this nook color. |
| 05:33.18 | ka6sox | can hear rick-home *without* a computer or telephone. |
| 05:33.40 | rick-home | androids going to drive me to do something irresponsible. |
| 05:33.57 | sega01 | where is the documents folder that certificate manager uses? |
| 05:34.05 | sega01 | i've mounted it and am looking for where to drop it |
| 05:34.20 | Jack87 | wishes his nook color could fly |
| 05:34.41 | sega01 | nevermind, it uses everything in that partition |
| 05:34.58 | Jack87 | android is not too bad on the nook color. andorid i general can use some work. however i wasnt the biggest fan on evo. i mean it was nice but i missed my pre. |
| 05:35.09 | sega01 | the evo is absolutely huge |
| 05:35.19 | sega01 | i hate only having a soft keyboard on my mytouch4g |
| 05:35.36 | sega01 | even in my youth, i can't seem to figure out how to type effectively with no tactile feedback |
| 05:35.40 | sega01 | i got the cert loaded. this thing is awesome |
| 05:35.50 | rick-home | hehehehe |
| 05:35.58 | sega01 | now to retype my horrific SMTP password |
| 05:36.34 | Jack87 | loves palm keyboards but does miss graffiti |
| 05:36.57 | Jack87 | my i500 oh that was an awesome phone lol palm os 4 |
| 05:37.21 | Jack87 | flip phone with a regular keyboard and stylus + graffiti |
| 05:37.28 | rick-home | we need graffiti for webOS. |
| 05:37.36 | rick-home | I installed graffiti on the Nook. |
| 05:37.37 | Jack87 | ya.... |
| 05:37.47 | Jack87 | meta touch and graffiti gestures on entire screen |
| 05:37.57 | Jack87 | rick-home, i couldnt get it to work right on the nook |
| 05:38.06 | rick-home | I haven't tried yet. |
| 05:38.16 | rick-home | I suspect it's a resolution related problem just like swype |
| 05:38.17 | Jack87 | anyway i need shower.. people are asking me to go socialize. |
| 05:40.20 | sega01 | is there a simple way to get it to make password fields visible? |
| 05:40.35 | rick-home | app dependent |
| 05:40.41 | sega01 | ah :-/ |
| 05:42.58 | sega01 | i got in :-) |
| 05:43.14 | sega01 | now to see if i can reply inline, bottom posting in text only |
| 05:43.28 | rick-home | seee.... One of the coolest parts about a truely OPEN phone is, even if you hadn't, we could figure out why. |
| 05:44.04 | sega01 | definitely |
| 05:44.14 | sega01 | i've got openssh running on the phone. coolest thing ever to login as root with it |
| 05:45.17 | ka6sox | hiya sega01 |
| 05:45.57 | sega01 | hey ka6sox |
| 05:46.25 | rick-home | sega01 you have terminal running on the phone so you can log into the phone FROM ITSELF? |
| 05:47.18 | sega01 | laptop -> openssh on phone :-) |
| 05:47.24 | sega01 | or terminal on the phone as root |
| 05:47.41 | sega01 | but it stays horizontally fixed if i turn the phone side ways and don't move it back :-( |
| 05:50.53 | sega01 | hrm, looks like the email client sends in HTML |
| 05:51.04 | sega01 | i don't see any patches for text email and bottom posting |
| 05:51.15 | sega01 | maybe i should write one? :-) |
| 05:53.25 | Minchkin | rick-home: Sega is back....:p |
| 05:53.52 | Minchkin | Oh... LOL! I was scrolled back by like, and hour. |
| 05:54.07 | ka6sox | sega01, do you work with cryptk? |
| 05:54.24 | sega01 | he sits about 10 feet away from me :-) |
| 05:54.29 | sega01 | he's on another shift, though |
| 05:54.33 | sega01 | but there's some overlap |
| 05:54.37 | ka6sox | ah |
| 05:59.37 | sega01 | any good ways to reduce memory usage on these phones? mine is at 224MB with just govnah open. it has 256MB total |
| 06:00.38 | ka6sox | sega01, I use compcache to help manage it. |
| 06:01.59 | sega01 | i have that on it. 16MB. wasn't sure if there was any simple way to lower the base memory use in the first place, though |
| 06:04.18 | ka6sox | sega01, its like 160MB just for Luna. |
| 06:04.37 | rick-home | Luna is sorta huge. |
| 06:05.42 | torchie | wow is it really that big? |
| 06:06.14 | destinal | well it does a lot... |
| 06:06.52 | ka6sox | torchie, yup |
| 06:07.04 | destinal | I think firefox frequently gets much larger than that on modern desktops |
| 06:10.56 | torchie | well firefox gets much larger than everything |
| 06:11.12 | torchie | bet safari dwarfs firefox in mem usage |
| 06:11.21 | Jack87 | go chrome |
| 06:11.48 | sega01 | ouch |
| 06:11.57 | sega01 | is luna java based? or partially? |
| 06:12.07 | torchie | as much as I like chrome I wish it was a better citizen on osx |
| 06:12.07 | sega01 | i was actually kind of surprised to read that the phone uses a fair bit of java |
| 06:12.17 | sega01 | would be neat to rewrite the backend |
| 06:12.25 | torchie | rewrite the backend in assembly |
| 06:12.44 | sega01 | heh, C for sanity reasons. assembly is fun, though |
| 06:12.51 | sega01 | i'd love to make a couple apps for it in just assembly |
| 06:13.18 | destinal | sega01: Luna is written in c++ |
| 06:13.50 | destinal | sega01: many back end services are written in Java in 1.x.x but Java is eliminated as part of the platform in webOS 2.x |
| 06:14.00 | sega01 | really? nice |
| 06:14.10 | sega01 | is the memory usage lower? |
| 06:14.18 | destinal | in favor of c based services but notably in favor of node.js |
| 06:14.27 | destinal | sadly, node.js isn't precisely memory efficient |
| 06:14.53 | halfhalo | ehhh... sorta |
| 06:15.07 | destinal | I mean it could be, and later versions are better at this |
| 06:15.14 | destinal | but node.js is still rapidly evolving |
| 06:15.21 | halfhalo | IIRC the main memory hog is v8, and thats already on the system |
| 06:15.34 | sega01 | i see |
| 06:15.41 | sega01 | that makes sense |
| 06:16.02 | destinal | sega01: a lot of the back end services in 1.x.x were C, also |
| 06:16.11 | torchie | hopefully next phone gets 16GB of ram |
| 06:16.17 | torchie | and a 72 inch screen |
| 06:16.33 | destinal | torchie: nice, can I take a picture of you lugging it around? |
| 06:16.43 | sega01 | sounds like they will offer a upgrade path for pre 1's to webos 2.0? |
| 06:16.45 | torchie | even better, a picture of me holding it up to my ear ;) |
| 06:16.53 | torchie | hope so, I really want it on my pre minus |
| 06:16.53 | sega01 | torchie: it's called an evo ;-) |
| 06:16.58 | torchie | dell streak! |
| 06:17.26 | destinal | sega01: webos 2.0 will be released for the other devices besides pre2 in "the coming months" which is probably a few months or less I'd guess |
| 06:17.41 | sega01 | i see, that's exactly what i read |
| 06:17.59 | sega01 | it'll be really great if they come out with a HSPA+ compatible com board |
| 06:18.10 | sega01 | i'd love t-mobile's full speeds on the pre |
| 06:18.12 | torchie | the coming months >:( |
| 06:18.33 | torchie | before feb 9 would be awesome |
| 06:19.07 | destinal | sega01: we've tried to get 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 running on the pre by using binaries from both platforms together but run into issues with the SGX powervr libraries and kernel modules (finding good versions of both that work together on castle and also support luna 2.x) |
| 06:19.08 | rick-home | making the 2.x doctors public at the dev reception on feb 9 is a possibility. |
| 06:19.36 | sega01 | hmm, i see |
| 06:24.02 | ShadeS | I'm about to install windows 7 and then check out the sdk |
| 06:24.08 | ShadeS | time to move away from xp... |
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| 06:35.49 | Minchkin | That would be cool. |
| 06:36.33 | sega01 | 'night everyone |
| 06:36.44 | sega01 | thanks for the help, rick-home :-) |
| 06:37.58 | ka6sox | nite sega01 |
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| 09:25.19 | bikemon | Hi |
| 09:25.49 | bikemon | maybe here anyone can help me with connecting pre 2 to ubuntu |
| 09:26.18 | Jack87 | bikemon, connecting how |
| 09:26.19 | ka6sox | 'lo |
| 09:26.30 | bikemon | via cable |
| 09:26.37 | bikemon | my pre is in dev mode |
| 09:26.56 | Jack87 | install novacom driver.. go to developer.palm.com it explains |
| 09:26.56 | bikemon | I installed all apps - sdk and so on |
| 09:28.49 | bikemon | installed |
| 09:28.57 | bikemon | do i have to reboot pc? |
| 09:29.07 | bikemon | after installation ofc |
| 09:30.01 | ka6sox | bikemon, it should have installed the novacomd driver |
| 09:30.10 | bikemon | the problem is that when i connect device in charging mode, type novaterm in terminal I get a message: unable to find device |
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| 09:30.20 | ka6sox | see if that is running with a ps axwwww | grep novacomd |
| 09:30.53 | bikemon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.53 | bikemon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.41 | ka6sox | okay, thats good. |
| 09:32.23 | bikemon | so where can be a problem? I can't see this device |
| 09:33.40 | Jack87 | bikemon, try a different usb port maybe one you have is not powered? |
| 09:34.44 | bikemon | nope, didn't help |
| 09:35.01 | Jack87 | bikemon, for sure you are in dev mode on the device? |
| 09:35.46 | bikemon | yes, it is in dev mode |
| 09:38.00 | Jack87 | ka6sox, will fix you right up than |
| 09:39.02 | Jack87 | bikemon, kind of odd i dont think ubuntu has ever given me trouble with novacom |
| 09:39.23 | Jack87 | ... /novaterm |
| 09:40.09 | bikemon | Jack87 - with Pre 2? |
| 09:40.14 | Jack87 | bikemon, than again my device isnt pre 2 |
| 09:40.16 | Jack87 | haha... ya |
| 09:40.18 | Jack87 | :) |
| 09:40.21 | Jack87 | ya as in no |
| 09:40.42 | ka6sox | bikemon, I haven't been able to do that...the pre2 takes a different novacom driver. |
| 09:40.56 | ka6sox | and I've not seen one out in the wild :( |
| 09:41.59 | Jack87 | bikemon, best bet might be to wait till feb 9? |
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| 09:43.58 | bikemon | maybe |
| 09:44.11 | ka6sox | we sure are pinning our "hopes" on Feb9 |
| 09:44.22 | bikemon | yes, i know |
| 09:44.25 | bikemon | me too |
| 09:45.08 | bikemon | can you tell me how to make screenshots? what app to use? search in app catalog didn't give right answer... |
| 09:45.33 | Jack87 | bikemon, screenshots on your phone? |
| 09:45.49 | Jack87 | press (i think white button) and sym and p |
| 09:46.03 | Jack87 | white button + sym + p |
| 09:47.27 | bikemon | oh yeah, some shutter I've heard |
| 09:49.05 | bikemon | thanks a lot it works |
| 09:50.03 | Jack87 | :) |
| 09:50.08 | Jack87 | new to webos bikemon? |
| 09:50.33 | bikemon | yop |
| 09:50.43 | bikemon | a week ago I bought pre2 |
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| 09:52.58 | Jack87 | hang in there... you will love it |
| 09:53.13 | Jack87 | go register at developer.palm.com |
| 09:53.13 | bikemon | change to bikekowal |
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| 09:53.29 | bikekowal | yes, definitely, this OS is nice |
| 09:53.55 | bikekowal | i want to write a review of pre2 |
| 09:54.19 | bikekowal | but I need to get to know this OS |
| 09:54.33 | bikekowal | it's completely different than others |
| 09:55.46 | Jack87 | indeed it is |
| 09:55.51 | Jack87 | are you in the states? |
| 09:55.58 | bikekowal | no |
| 09:56.02 | bikekowal | Poland |
| 09:56.20 | bikekowal | a bit far from states :) |
| 09:58.18 | Jack87 | im guess webos is not super popular there. what made you want one? |
| 09:58.39 | bikekowal | probably i'm the first one |
| 09:59.05 | bikekowal | I run a website and i write reviews in free tim |
| 09:59.17 | Jack87 | its a really neat OS.... i am spoiled now.. its hard to function on other platforms |
| 09:59.22 | bikekowal | webos is the only mobile OS i didnt review :) |
| 10:00.56 | Jack87 | bikekowal, do you get app catalog in Poland? |
| 10:01.03 | bikekowal | yes |
| 10:01.22 | bikekowal | but im not sure if there are all apps |
| 10:01.45 | Jack87 | prolly not all but im sure most. |
| 10:02.11 | Jack87 | im not sure if you can install preware without novaterm :-? |
| 10:02.26 | Jack87 | bikekowal, you might be able to extract driver from the public webos doctor |
| 10:02.43 | Jack87 | ka6sox, is this true or am I lying to the man |
| 10:02.43 | bikekowal | maybe |
| 10:03.11 | ka6sox | for some reason I don't think that works...at least I never found it. |
| 10:03.47 | Jack87 | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions |
| 10:06.29 | Jack87 | bikekowal, download the latest doctor. and thinker around there see if you can find novacom drivers |
| 10:07.44 | bikekowal | ok, downloading |
| 10:07.59 | bikekowal | tell me, what about updates? i have 2.0.0. |
| 10:08.12 | bikekowal | how to update to 2.0.1? is it possible? |
| 10:08.57 | ka6sox | download the doctor, and run it. |
| 10:09.15 | ka6sox | but install save/restore first and save everything. |
| 10:09.28 | ka6sox | then you can restore it when you get to the new version. |
| 10:10.59 | bikekowal | save/restore from app catalog? |
| 10:11.05 | ka6sox | yup |
| 10:11.13 | bikekowal | I cant see anything like this |
| 10:11.31 | ka6sox | did you create a palm profile? |
| 10:12.03 | bikekowal | yes |
| 10:12.42 | bikekowal | during first boot |
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| 10:13.57 | ka6sox | okay are you connected to a wifi then? |
| 10:14.07 | bikekowal | yes |
| 10:14.59 | ka6sox | oh, you can't install preware....duh |
| 10:15.08 | ka6sox | unless you used woqi |
| 10:15.23 | bikekowal | whats woqi? |
| 10:15.48 | Jack87 | ka6sox, that might work but not sure... |
| 10:15.54 | Jack87 | considering there is no driver |
| 10:15.58 | ka6sox | webos quick install, and I don't know if it works on 2.x devices |
| 10:16.02 | dtzWill | Jack87: 'ello! :) |
| 10:16.04 | Jack87 | but the driver from this new doctor.. does it work with webos quick install |
| 10:16.14 | Jack87 | dtzWill, there you are! hello |
| 10:16.17 | dtzWill | don't mean to interrupt, but saw you pinged me earlier so thought i'd drop in for a sec :) |
| 10:16.25 | dtzWill | Jack87: here i am! :) |
| 10:16.34 | Jack87 | dtzWill, ya i did ping you... i wanted to say.... |
| 10:16.39 | Jack87 | HELLO! :-) |
| 10:16.55 | dtzWill | Jack87: =O |
| 10:16.57 | dtzWill | Jack87: hi! :D |
| 10:17.20 | bikekowal | so what to do? |
| 10:17.35 | Jack87 | bikekowal, do you have stuff you need to back up? |
| 10:17.47 | Jack87 | contacts and apps from catalog are saved in your profile |
| 10:17.56 | bikekowal | yes |
| 10:18.05 | Jack87 | bikekowal, what do you have to backup? |
| 10:18.17 | bikekowal | apps |
| 10:18.24 | Jack87 | catalog apps? |
| 10:18.30 | bikekowal | yes |
| 10:18.39 | Jack87 | dont worry about it they will automatically restore |
| 10:18.41 | bikekowal | but i can install them once againg |
| 10:19.06 | bikekowal | what about backup util I have in my pre? |
| 10:19.09 | Jack87 | go run the palm back up |
| 10:19.29 | bikekowal | complete |
| 10:19.48 | Jack87 | ok cool.. just run the webos doctor when its done and this will update to newest webos for you |
| 10:20.07 | Jack87 | and than you can tinker with trying to find the driver within the jar file after |
| 10:20.18 | bikekowal | I need to connect it in charging mode? |
| 10:20.35 | Jack87 | ya |
| 10:20.37 | bikekowal | ok |
| 10:21.17 | bikekowal | I'll try it after 2 hours, i need to go shopping, fridge is empty |
| 10:21.35 | Jack87 | dtzWill, i been tinkering with nook color!.. its fun stuff.. great for school to. |
| 10:21.54 | Jack87 | ok cool. i prolly wont be around but others will |
| 10:22.02 | dtzWill | Jack87: so i am hearing re:it's hackery-potential... |
| 10:22.09 | dtzWill | Jack87: but glad it's helping with school, too. |
| 10:22.29 | Jack87 | webos doctor will reset phone to factory settings but everything should restore for you after you login to your palm profile |
| 10:22.47 | dtzWill | almost got a kindle again (keep going back to the idea of it) but didn't since i really just wanted something i can use well with misc academic papers pdf-ified |
| 10:22.51 | Jack87 | dtzWill, indeed you would get a kick out of it! if you ever get one let me know |
| 10:23.14 | Jack87 | dtzWill, nook color be a far better choice :) |
| 10:23.55 | dtzWill | yeah, i got some ties at amazon that give me an unreasonable bias towards the kindle, but it really just didn't seem suitable for my use case :( |
| 10:24.27 | dtzWill | and books are nice and all, but as much as i fantasize about how i'll get an e-book reader and suddenly start reading agin |
| 10:24.34 | dtzWill | have a feeling it won't be that easy, heh :/ :) |
| 10:24.52 | dtzWill | *reading novels, etc |
| 10:25.06 | Jack87 | dtzWill, ya... its got me a bit more into reading |
| 10:25.24 | Jack87 | i dont think i could stand the e-ink. so much money on a device that just does one thing |
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| 12:30.04 | bikekowal | downloaded webOS Doctor, connected device but I have "INFO: got devices 0" |
| 12:30.18 | bikekowal | what's going on? |
| 12:36.46 | Loudergood | phone in recovery mode? |
| 12:37.00 | bikekowal | khem... |
| 12:37.05 | bikekowal | rather no |
| 12:37.26 | Loudergood | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover |
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| 18:16.45 | ice8lue | heyho! |
| 18:17.06 | fudge_ | hi |
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| 22:49.44 | ka6sox | http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/exhibitors/webos-internals |
| 22:51.45 | halfhalo | nice |
| 22:53.15 | ka6sox | how do you put that into a bit.ly thing... |
| 22:53.41 | Jack87 | ka6sox, that is awesomeness |
| 22:53.48 | Loudergood | you start by going to http://bit.ly |
| 22:54.21 | ka6sox | but they want me to give them too darned much info to *just* shorten a link...I'll use tinyurl instead :P |
| 22:54.28 | bpadalino | goo.gl works too |
| 22:54.54 | bpadalino | if you don't trust those libians |
| 22:55.53 | Jack87 | http://goo.gl/WDZen |
| 22:55.54 | Loudergood | you can't just paste the link in and hit shorten? |
| 22:56.02 | Loudergood | http://bit.ly/hth9tM |
| 22:56.22 | bpadalino | they're so short! |
| 22:56.52 | Loudergood | needs a domain name shorter than 5 letters... |
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| 22:57.07 | Loudergood | ho.ly |
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| 23:06.22 | semprance | is.gd i think |
| 23:07.10 | Loudergood | I've got it. w.at |
| 23:08.19 | ka6sox | okay sent...lets hope the twitter gods are happy :P |
| 23:08.56 | ka6sox | twitter: responsible for murdering language worse than SMS. |
| 23:09.12 | ka6sox | s/worse/more |
| 23:09.16 | halfhalo | hehe |
| 23:09.19 | ka6sox | s/worse/more/ |
| 23:09.25 | ka6sox | sigh |
| 23:09.28 | Loudergood | lol, m nt sur tats pssbl |
| 23:09.46 | Loudergood | it appears we've been out shortened already http://singlefunction.com/the-shortest-url-shorteners/ |
| 23:10.19 | ka6sox | doesn't really matter...its gone now...it'll either fly or fry. |
| 23:10.36 | Loudergood | this one is kind of cool, but yes |
| 23:10.45 | Loudergood | http://tinyarro.ws/ |
| 23:10.53 | Loudergood | apparently they use unicode symbols |
| 23:17.28 | bpadalino | http://â¡.ws/ just seems weird to try to put into the address bar |
| 23:21.05 | ka6sox | likes rwhtiby's tweet better than his own. |
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