IRC log for #webos-internals on 20110111

00:03.22sempranceI don't get it. The app-assistant tries to open a scene called pkg-load but there is no scene with that name in the sources.json
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00:16.40halfhalothinks it has to due with the service
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00:37.05Tibfibrwhitby: is backing up text-assist supported in save/restore?
00:37.25Tibfiboh.. it's probably db8... so maybe it's backed up to the profile
00:40.59rwhitbyTibfib: haven't examined that yet.  Should be something Impostah could show if it's in db8
00:42.13Tibfibrwhitby: sweet, will do
00:42.23Tibfibwill check*...
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00:57.22RocketSnailhi guys could one of you answer a question?
00:57.38fahhemwhat's up?
00:58.02bpadalinoyes - consider your question, answered!
00:58.03bpadalinothat was easy
00:58.08RocketSnaillol.
00:58.43RocketSnailbut really :D- I have no access to a computer, and I need to /want to change my theme on my pre back to the default one
00:58.52RocketSnailis this possible with just preware?
00:59.35bpadalinoi don't know anything about themes on the pre, sorry
01:00.00ka6soxloves oxymorons :D
01:00.14fahhemyou can just uninstall it, can't you?
01:00.19RocketSnailthat's alright :) sorry
01:00.29fahhemor did you change your theme without a theme package?
01:00.33RocketSnailthat's what I wat I was thinking:p I'll try that :)
01:01.02RocketSnailno I installed a theme with the doctor thing (i forget what that program is :p)
01:01.10rwhitbyIf you've installed a single theme using Preware, and you haven't done an OTA update since, and nothing else has touched the files that the theme touches, then an uninstall of the theme package will restore it's files to stock.
01:01.28rwhitbyIf you've done other than that, then all bets are off.
01:04.01RocketSnailbrb I'm going to restart pre - will report back after theme is uninstalled/i restart the pre :)
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01:07.36RocketSnailwow!  thanks a lot guys for your info and help :)
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01:11.30rwhitbyRocketSnail: donations welcome at http://donate.webos-internals.org/
01:11.44RocketSnailperfect, I'm back at the default theme and I'm at 1ghz cpu :)
01:16.06RocketSnailI might just donate a bit ;)
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02:22.09RocketSnailugh another q I guess :p
02:22.22RocketSnailwould any of you know a way to scroll inside of a webpage?
02:22.45ka6soxdid you touch inside it and try to scroll?
02:23.05RocketSnailsay I have a chat box made of javascript and I want to scroll up/down in the box instead of making the whole page move
02:23.26RocketSnailoh I don't really know I'm sure I've tried,ill try now ;)
02:23.35ka6soxkk
02:24.10RocketSnailnope doesn't work :p when I click/touch in the box and then scroll, the whole page moves
02:24.40halfhaloYou need a scroll bar for it
02:24.41ka6soxya, just didn't know how that one worked.
02:24.42SineOtwhat's the chat box made out of?
02:25.03RocketSnailI'm very sure it's made of javascript
02:25.03SineOtlike, an iframe?
02:25.13RocketSnailoh I don't know the details
02:25.15RocketSnailwait
02:25.27SineOtlink? P:
02:26.35RocketSnailumm have you ever heard of a website/game named 'syrnia'?
02:27.28SineOtnupe
02:28.30RocketSnailhmm trying to think of a different example
02:29.01halfhaloIt's a div with overflow:auto most likely
02:31.15RocketSnailit's a table in a webpage that contains more info then the box can handle, so it has to make you scroll to see all of it
02:31.25RocketSnaildo you know what I'm talking about?
02:31.38SineOtNo
02:31.44RocketSnailI don't know any examples :p
02:32.13SineOtwell, looking at the screen shot, it's probably a div with overflow:auto
02:32.20SineOtso IDK
02:33.25RocketSnailoh okay :p sorry
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05:34.28rwhitbyAny Pixi users want to test 806.4 MHz overclocking UberKernel ?
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05:51.41Jack87is surprised no one is jumping on this
05:52.44RagingMindI'm not... only because it's about sleepy time here
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05:57.44msd181989hey question
05:58.00msd181989what would cause major lagg on my fone with 1 app running
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06:08.41msd181989any one have an idea
06:09.12egaudetthe app
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06:10.00rwhitbyswap to flash
06:10.10rwhitbybrowser mem leak
06:10.18rwhitbybackground facebook processing
06:10.21rwhitbytake your pick
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08:53.34Jack87_Bedgood night
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10:01.09HayoHi
10:01.26HayoI need help with wIRC
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10:17.52Guest87096hello?
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10:23.43HayoNobody here?
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10:32.43HayoAll sleeping
10:32.47HayoBye bye
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10:40.11Guest87096pixie overclock?
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10:45.46Guest68478pixie overclock w/govna?
10:48.47rwhitbyyes, the pixi can be overclocked to 800MHz
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11:51.50RocketSnailwould any of you know if there's a 'winterboard' for the palm pre?
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12:04.30ice8lueheyho!
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15:22.12Rick_workwhat's a winterboard?
15:22.33halfhaloa cold pcb?
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15:54.30halfhaloyawns as he waits the hour or so it will take his work computer to get a weeks worth of emails
16:00.44halfhaloyay! its done!
16:02.49destinalRick_work: winterboard is an alternative launcher for the iPhone,  a play on their "springboard" name, there was a summerboard too..
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18:01.05Brawlerwhos loving the updated kernels
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18:50.18ice8lue_hey guys
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19:01.44destinalice8lue_: hey
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19:03.01ice8lue_^^
19:03.17halfhalo:p
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19:34.32ice8lue_this is strange, can't change my nick via slash nick anymore in ubuntu xchat
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20:32.24hapedo sombody know if novaterm get can get more then 1 file at once
20:37.01destinalhape: novacom in general supports multiple simultaneous connections
20:37.18ka6soxhape, I just create a tarfile and use nova to get that one file
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20:40.40hapethat was my first idea, but my usb drive is full
20:40.48hapeso the idea was to get the files via novertem directly and tar them on the pc side
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20:41.10hapeBut that do not look that simple as expected ;-)
20:42.24hapecan I send a linux command , like tree, via novaterm to be executed on the pre but get the output on the pc side?
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21:03.57MaracasHello. I have a question about webos versions in this website
21:04.18Loudergoodthis is a website?
21:04.28egaudethape: yes
21:04.45MaracasI hope you get the point
21:05.08egaudetnovacom run 'file:///path/to/bin opts' > localfile
21:05.11Maracaswebos internals has a section in the website that has listed the webos versions
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21:07.43Loudergoodok, so what's you're question?
21:07.48Loudergood*your
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21:11.08Loudergood?
21:19.03Maracasoh, sorry,
21:19.12Maracasthe question:
21:20.38MaracasI have a palm pre plus unlocked from ATT, with Webos 1.4.5   Is it safe to install Webos 2 from Webos Internals website? or do I have to wait until Palm releases the Webos 2 for all Pre's
21:21.29jhowircthere is no webos 2.0 from webos internals site
21:23.10Maracasok, sorry, the webos doctor version
21:23.28Loudergoodthat will only work on pre2s
21:23.32Maracasfrom which the SO installs, or am I wrong?
21:24.18LoudergoodI'm assuming you mean the ones linked on this page? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions
21:24.24Maracasso, that means me and everyone else with a pre plus have to wait for palm/hp to release the version for our phones?
21:24.39Loudergoodat this point yes
21:25.11Maracasthat is sad,  They are taking too long.  I liked it before it was bought by HP
21:26.26Loudergoodas the owner of a verizon pre plus I can only agree with you there
21:27.26Maracaspalm before was great because they thought on their users.  Now HP only worries on sales and not users
21:28.06LoudergoodI don't know about that, I do see that they're hiring like mad now, and they did fly rwhitby to NYC for dev days
21:29.22Maracasthat is only my thoughts.  well. thank you. I will just wait until they (HP/PALM) give us a little light on Webos 2
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21:33.31egaudetwebOS 2.x is a very major update.  The doctors linked on webos-internals are links directly to Palm's publicly released doctors, not anything being redistributed
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21:51.16raebstupid finicky touchstone... anybody got any tips for improving touchstone connectivity ?
21:53.28Loudergoodyes
21:53.44Loudergooda quick and easy one too
21:53.54raebbite the connector ?
21:53.57Loudergoodpop the back off the phone
21:54.13Loudergoodyou have a pre or pixi?
21:54.27raebsprint pre
21:55.12Loudergoodopen it up, and next to the check mark there's two little prongs
21:55.38Loudergoodthey're actually springs and contacts for the touchstone back
21:55.38raebyep
21:55.41raebyep
21:55.47Loudergoodpry them up a little bit more
21:55.56Loudergoodgently with your fingernail
21:55.57raebahhhhhh
21:56.23Loudergoodworked like a charm for me
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21:56.48raebvery cool, touchstone is now charging (consistantly) and i'll keep an eye on it
21:56.50raebLoudergood: thanks
21:57.00Loudergoodneeds to make a video
21:57.10Loudergoodall those voodoo solutions
21:57.45raebi bit the usb connector to get a tighter connection with the wart
21:57.53raebthat helped me from accidently unplugging it heh
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21:58.47Loudergoodyeah I had a wart die on me
21:59.58raebhmm
22:00.10raebbah no luck... was charging
22:00.13raebthen on / off / on /off
22:00.15raebnow not charging
22:00.27Loudergoodthat's how my wart died on me...
22:01.11raebinterestingly, i pull the cable out of the back of the touchstone, plug it into phone, charges
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22:03.35raebLoudergood: was your wart a US wart (small, fixed plug end) or a global wart (larger, detachable plug end)
22:04.07Loudergoodglobal
22:04.15LoudergoodI didn't know there was a fixed one
22:04.33raebyeah, me neither, till i ordered a few extra warts n touchstones from amazon
22:04.57Loudergoodmine was a cylinder with a USB port on it
22:05.09raebyeah, the US one is the same, but smaller and the plug end doesn't detach
22:06.14Loudergoodmaybe mine was US
22:07.10Loudergoodit's been tossed now anyway
22:08.13raebhmm seems to be ok now, but i'll try another wart if more issues, thx
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22:25.19robertjwanyone know where I can find an older version of a webosdoctor image file?
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22:29.31Tibfibhow old?
22:29.38robertjw1.2.1
22:30.17raeboh how awesome... govnah icon no longer appears in launcher, must launch from preware
22:30.46Tibfibrobertjw: I think you'll have to find someone with it locally. I don't think it's hosted by palm anywhere
22:31.23robertjwI see that their older links are dead now.
22:32.00Tibfibyeah
22:39.41raebhmm, avg 53 deg celcius, too hot? maybe....
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23:00.15playyadoes the pre really have {} on y/u on an english keyboard?
23:00.27playyait's () on a german keyboard
23:02.06Loudergoodit's () on my US english keyboard
23:02.24destinalraeb: your icon is.. just gone from the launcher?
23:03.10playyaLoudergood, thx
23:04.22rwhitbydestinal: 2.0.1 does that when you upgrade an app
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