| 00:00.19 | halfhalo | can't string it through the walls nor over the roof due to his parents |
| 00:00.35 | oil | just dont tell t hem |
| 00:00.51 | halfhalo | has a construction defect attorney as a father |
| 00:00.58 | gkatsev | lol |
| 00:01.06 | bpadalino | would he go over his own son?! |
| 00:01.09 | bpadalino | s/over/after/ |
| 00:01.32 | bpadalino | i can see the law and order now .. ripped from the headlines .. dun dunnnn |
| 00:01.37 | halfhalo | lol |
| 00:02.06 | halfhalo | he defends, but he would either rip it from the walls or off the roof and make me pay for it all |
| 00:02.07 | gkatsev | oil: i'd probably want cat6 cable since it's probably 100ft to string a cable in the hallway from the router to my room |
| 00:02.21 | oil | whatever :) |
| 00:02.30 | halfhalo | runs cat6 locally |
| 00:03.31 | gkatsev | halfhalo: but cant you move the router closer to your room? |
| 00:03.40 | halfhalo | nope |
| 00:03.48 | oil | put his computer where the router is |
| 00:04.01 | jaltman | move your room closer to the router? |
| 00:04.08 | halfhalo | has computers where that router is. Their just not the ones he uses regularly |
| 00:04.12 | halfhalo | lol |
| 00:04.16 | oil | put them all in there! |
| 00:04.16 | gkatsev | that's probably easier, right jaltman ? |
| 00:04.26 | jaltman | lol, uh-huh |
| 00:04.28 | oil | who ever has the most computers wins! |
| 00:04.50 | halfhalo | theoretically I could patch the old coax cables running along the side of the house and use moca.... but powerline works well enough |
| 00:05.12 | halfhalo | you know, when its plugged in and all |
| 00:05.14 | gkatsev | I have 1 desktop and 3 laptops to myself. And I have 3 more desktops downstairs though, only one is in use and by my parents |
| 00:05.39 | gkatsev | halfhalo: do you have a surge protector? |
| 00:05.57 | gkatsev | does the powerline adapter come with surge protection? |
| 00:06.15 | halfhalo | yes, and no, and its not on the surge protector |
| 00:06.26 | halfhalo | since that filters the signal out |
| 00:06.32 | gkatsev | yeah, I know |
| 00:06.35 | halfhalo | has 4 laptops, 2 desktops, and a work mbp |
| 00:07.19 | halfhalo | heh, I went from one 12 outlet surge protector to two 6 outlet + ups and have a craptop of room to expand now |
| 00:07.19 | bpadalino | i have a desktop i haven't turned on in years .. might make it a linux box in the new year |
| 00:07.36 | gkatsev | I just wouldn't feel safe plugging in an ethernet from the wall directly into the computer |
| 00:07.46 | oil | yeah |
| 00:07.53 | oil | sounds like a good way to make things go boom |
| 00:08.01 | halfhalo | its running through a linksys wrt300n |
| 00:08.38 | halfhalo | and considering the last time the power even went out was when a car hit the local distributer thingamagjiger, not a big deal |
| 00:08.40 | gkatsev | bah, linksys |
| 00:08.49 | gkatsev | is moving away from linksys routers |
| 00:08.51 | halfhalo | and that was about 5 years ago |
| 00:08.52 | gkatsev | they are expensive |
| 00:08.58 | gkatsev | and they suck |
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| 00:09.26 | oil | here is halfhalos setup: http://www.progx.org/users/rico/ethernetKiller.jpg |
| 00:09.38 | gkatsev | oil: hahaha |
| 00:09.43 | halfhalo | eh, the 300n has issues acting as a dchp server, so its connected to a 600b |
| 00:09.45 | halfhalo | 600n |
| 00:09.48 | halfhalo | which was on sale |
| 00:10.03 | halfhalo | can't load the page |
| 00:10.10 | gkatsev | halfhalo: so you are connecting the powerline to a router which connects to another router? |
| 00:10.27 | halfhalo | my bandwidth is 3 |
| 00:10.33 | gkatsev | 3? |
| 00:10.36 | gkatsev | what are the units? |
| 00:10.45 | oil | just 3 |
| 00:10.49 | gkatsev | lol |
| 00:11.31 | oil | the units are b/hr |
| 00:11.44 | gkatsev | yeah, that's what I though. |
| 00:11.54 | gkatsev | nbps |
| 00:12.29 | gkatsev | yocto-bytes per year |
| 00:12.41 | oil | pre decade |
| 00:12.51 | oil | per* |
| 00:13.01 | gkatsev | per yotta-nium |
| 00:13.30 | gkatsev | that's it, yocto-bytes per yotta-nium |
| 00:15.49 | gkatsev | where yocto == 10^-24 and yotta == 10^24 |
| 00:15.58 | gkatsev | smallest and biggest SI units prefix |
| 00:16.10 | oil | falls asleep |
| 00:16.20 | gkatsev | wakes oil up |
| 00:16.29 | oil | its math class all over again |
| 00:16.47 | oil | getting an eraser thrown at me by the teacher when i fall asleep |
| 00:16.55 | gkatsev | lol |
| 00:17.47 | gkatsev | my bio teacher in highschool used to drop the 10lbs textbook on the floor or on the desk of the guy sleeping. It makes a really loud sound. Was kind of funny. |
| 00:18.08 | oil | its not funny for the sleeper thats for sure |
| 00:18.15 | gkatsev | nope |
| 00:19.19 | Rick_work | i used to smack a meter stick across the desk of the sleeper. Or, have two students pop paper bags in the ears on either side... |
| 00:19.44 | oil | would just let them sleep |
| 00:19.52 | oil | as long as they werent snoring |
| 00:20.08 | oil | they wake up a couple periods later surrounded by entirely different class |
| 00:20.18 | oil | now that would be funny |
| 00:20.23 | gkatsev | lol |
| 00:20.36 | gkatsev | has to go shovel because of the snowpocalypse in Boston |
| 00:20.41 | oil | sux |
| 00:20.50 | oil | hates shoveling snow |
| 00:21.05 | gkatsev | thank god it didn't rain |
| 00:21.12 | bpadalino | make it rain |
| 00:21.29 | gkatsev | bpadalino: I will stab you in the face if it rains. |
| 00:21.34 | bpadalino | ha |
| 00:21.45 | gkatsev | just letting you know. |
| 00:23.10 | bpadalino | noted |
| 00:24.50 | oil | really hopes it starts raning |
| 00:24.51 | oil | lol |
| 00:26.17 | jaltman | rained here yesterday before it turned to snow |
| 00:30.15 | jaltman | i dont wanna go back to work tomorrow |
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| 00:44.13 | halfhalo | ... |
| 00:44.25 | halfhalo | I opened the door to the garage and lost my signal |
| 00:44.43 | halfhalo | so juryrigged the powerline adapter straight to the gigabit switch in my desk |
| 00:53.25 | jaltman | bye now |
| 00:53.46 | Loudergood | lol |
| 00:54.09 | Loudergood | those work pretty well until there's a power surge |
| 00:54.23 | halfhalo | heh |
| 00:54.38 | halfhalo | does a speedtest to see if he lost bandwidths |
| 00:59.44 | Loudergood | you can hit 100Mbit on some of them |
| 01:00.21 | halfhalo | hit 122 when he tested it before |
| 01:00.33 | halfhalo | has the Belkin gigabit hd kit |
| 01:01.33 | Loudergood | yeah, pretty much faster than wireless |
| 01:01.40 | gkatsev | back |
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| 01:08.43 | bhuey | anybody an expert on PalmDatabase.db3 here ? |
| 01:54.53 | halfhalo | what |
| 01:54.54 | halfhalo | the |
| 01:54.55 | halfhalo | hell |
| 01:55.16 | halfhalo | I was running the ethernet cord around my room and I pulled the bookshelf out and found a cable drop |
| 01:55.28 | halfhalo | Plugged it in and its friggin live |
| 01:56.54 | halfhalo | I mean... why would no-one tell me this |
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| 02:08.17 | gkatsev | halfhalo: hahahaha |
| 02:09.02 | destinal | halfhalo: nice find |
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| 02:13.56 | halfhalo | now I get Directv AND basic cable@ |
| 02:13.57 | halfhalo | ! |
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| 02:27.41 | tmandry | ka6sox: ping |
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| 02:29.28 | halfhalo | has only 3 more crimps to do on this rediculous ethernet cable and he is golden |
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| 02:34.52 | ka6sox | tmandry, morning |
| 02:35.08 | ka6sox | just got ahold of the 1.4.5 pre...let fire this thing up. |
| 02:36.24 | halfhalo | waits for the inveitable dundunDUN moment |
| 02:38.10 | gkatsev | halfhalo: making your own cables? |
| 02:38.38 | halfhalo | yeah, but using a really long donor cable I found that I hate |
| 02:39.08 | halfhalo | instead of having orange/white wires its justa white cable next to the orange |
| 02:39.09 | gkatsev | ok |
| 02:39.14 | gkatsev | lol |
| 02:48.48 | halfhalo | one left... |
| 02:49.44 | tmandry | ka6sox: let me know how it goes. you got the second version right? |
| 02:52.57 | ka6sox | tmandry, yeppers |
| 02:52.59 | ka6sox | using that one |
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| 02:58.17 | tmandry | ka6sox: right now I've only tested with whistling and with an acoustic guitar, it seems to work well for me (except it spazzes out only on one string of the guitar) |
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| 03:15.53 | ka6sox | tmandry, I wonder about that as my G string has it doing something wierd going on. |
| 03:16.46 | tmandry | ka6sox: does it do the right thing but sporadically go somewhere else? |
| 03:17.25 | tmandry | idk if that made sense |
| 03:22.59 | ka6sox | tmandry, yes |
| 03:23.05 | ka6sox | whats the deal with that? |
| 03:24.49 | tmandry | has to do with the algorithm.. sometimes it picks a weird harmonic as the fundamental instead of the actual fundamental |
| 03:25.41 | tmandry | I've tried to "patch" it with minimal success |
| 03:25.41 | tmandry | but there are some different approaches I can take with the algorithm that are supposed to have better results |
| 03:25.54 | tmandry | so I'll look into those |
| 03:25.59 | ka6sox | you need a FIR for it. |
| 03:27.16 | tmandry | I have a 2nd order butterworth filter to get rid of lows |
| 03:28.04 | tmandry | you're suggesting filtering the raw sound right? |
| 03:29.49 | ka6sox | yes |
| 03:30.02 | ka6sox | they should operate in a fairly narrow band... |
| 03:30.20 | ka6sox | I mean on the order of less than second order |
| 03:30.44 | ka6sox | the biggest problem is getting too much Q cranked into it |
| 03:30.57 | ka6sox | then it rings |
| 03:35.50 | tmandry | mm, I could try that |
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| 03:44.17 | ka6sox | I've always preferred Chebyshev filters but they are harder |
| 03:48.20 | ka6sox | whoops |
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| 04:08.53 | halfhalo | is 90% back up |
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| 04:11.33 | scoutcamper | hi all :D |
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| 04:12.35 | halfhalo | :/ I restart my windows computer and colloquy on the mac dies |
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| 04:17.20 | Templarian | scoutcamper: The recode is looking nice. |
| 04:17.46 | scoutcamper | Templarian, thanks :D |
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| 04:30.49 | bhuey | anybody here know about the com_palm_accounts_Account bits in the PalmDatabase.db3 file ? |
| 04:34.02 | rwhitby | nope. that file scared me, so I never went into it. |
| 04:34.16 | rwhitby | Things are much better in 2.0 |
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| 04:34.36 | bpadalino | do you think SMS will be able to be saved/restored with 2.0 ? |
| 04:36.24 | halfhalo | is bringing his staging environment online.... now |
| 04:37.42 | halfhalo | hehe... git based autobuilder is working |
| 04:42.50 | rwhitby | bpadalino: yeah, I think it will |
| 04:43.11 | bpadalino | very nice |
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| 05:06.30 | ka6sox | tmandry, it doesnt' need much but responding to 2onds isn't good. |
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| 05:07.22 | jhoover09 | Quick question, can anyone confirm that sconix has a feed setup for Preware? |
| 05:09.41 | bhuey | does greg_roll hang here ? |
| 05:10.06 | scoutcamper | jhoover09, restate plz |
| 05:10.51 | jhoover09 | I'm looking for Sconix's preware feed URL. I hear hes got some themes for webOS 2.0 |
| 05:11.09 | scoutcamper | oh, rwhitby or ka6sox may know, i dont |
| 05:11.24 | jhoover09 | Thanks |
| 05:12.06 | ka6sox | jhoover09, his patches are in the preware patch feed |
| 05:12.56 | jhoover09 | I was told he had a feed of his own where he posted webOS 2.0 themes. Is this true? |
| 05:14.08 | ka6sox | jhoover09, unk to me. |
| 05:14.17 | ka6sox | doesn't do themes :( |
| 05:14.34 | jhoover09 | Okay, Thanks. |
| 05:20.16 | bhuey | is going to do some com_palm_accounts_Account hackery to fix his Pre |
| 05:20.52 | scoutcamper | bhuey, whats the issue? |
| 05:22.35 | jhoover09 | FOund the info... took some digging. http://forums.precentral.net/enlightened-linux-solutions/245440-patch-top-bar-system-menus-status-today-device-menus.html#post2447722 Sconix feed info for whoever may want it |
| 05:24.22 | scoutcamper | jhoover09, that link appears to be broken |
| 05:25.06 | scoutcamper | he states that evereything would be migrated to preware feeds |
| 05:25.37 | jhoover09 | hmmm, worked for me. I'll repost. |
| 05:25.51 | jhoover09 | It's post 17 in this thread. http://forums.precentral.net/enlightened-linux-solutions/269207-patch-advanced-system-menus-2-x.html |
| 05:26.04 | jhoover09 | Ah, okay |
| 05:29.42 | scoutcamper | jhoover09, not working here on preware 1.5.1 |
| 05:30.00 | jhoover09 | Yeah, Having the same trouble here. |
| 05:30.43 | scoutcamper | im watching jurrasic park 1, i wish linux commands fere that easy, "access main program" |
| 05:30.53 | scoutcamper | were* |
| 05:30.58 | jhoover09 | lol, |
| 05:31.07 | jhoover09 | That wouldn't be any fun. |
| 05:32.31 | jhoover09 | The feed is down. I can't navigate to it in my browser. |
| 05:36.07 | rwhitby | jhoover09: sconix has migrated everything to the webos-internals feeds, since he is now a member of webos-internals |
| 05:36.35 | jhoover09 | Ah, okay |
| 05:36.56 | jhoover09 | Can we expect to see his webOS 2.0 theme anytime soon? |
| 05:37.46 | rwhitby | what theme is that? |
| 05:38.57 | bhuey | scoutcamper: can't delete an account |
| 05:39.10 | bhuey | the sqlite statement I use just hangs |
| 05:39.30 | scoutcamper | bhuey, what webos version? what hardware? what desktop os? |
| 05:39.40 | bhuey | There looks like some partially removed garbagge accounts that might be confusing this Pre |
| 05:39.43 | bhuey | 1.45 |
| 05:39.45 | bhuey | 1.4.5 |
| 05:39.48 | bhuey | original Pre |
| 05:40.02 | bhuey | http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/205914-messaging-plugins-live-yahoo-icq-91.html |
| 05:40.11 | scoutcamper | bhuey, have you tried doctoring? |
| 05:40.14 | bhuey | I use the statement in that post to try and attempt that delete |
| 05:40.18 | bhuey | looks reasonable |
| 05:40.19 | bhuey | no |
| 05:40.28 | bhuey | I'd like to avoid doctoring it if possible |
| 05:40.42 | bhuey | it's a big drastic if it's only a few corrupted bits of this and that |
| 05:40.50 | bhuey | big=bit |
| 05:41.09 | tmandry | ka6sox: sorry, responding to what? |
| 05:41.09 | bhuey | been a couple of minutes now and it's still hung |
| 05:42.26 | scoutcamper | bhuey, sorry, i can only recomend doctoring the phone |
| 05:42.29 | bhuey | it's a real pain in the ass |
| 05:42.38 | bhuey | does greg roll hang here ? |
| 05:42.48 | bhuey | he seems to have more information about this |
| 05:42.59 | bhuey | it's either an sqlite3 problem or something else |
| 05:43.05 | scoutcamper | i havent seen him |
| 05:43.12 | bhuey | because this should just immediately delete the entries I'd presume |
| 05:43.14 | scoutcamper | ask rwhitby |
| 05:43.32 | scoutcamper | halfhalo, do you know sqllite? |
| 05:43.57 | rwhitby | ~seen greg_roll |
| 05:44.01 | infobot | greg_roll <n=greg_rol@60-242-103-158.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 373d 4h 6m 25s ago, saying: 'PuffTheMagic: hello, i just PMed you about freetether. Are you getting them?'. |
| 05:44.19 | rwhitby | bhuey: not for a while it seems ... |
| 05:45.20 | jhoover09 | The screenshots on some of his patches look themed and I spoke with TheDizzAR in the forums who clamed that it used t be in his feed. I'm trying to get some confirmation and assistance as I move forward with porting my themes. |
| 05:46.09 | scoutcamper | ~seen sconix |
| 05:46.10 | infobot | sconix is currently on #webos-internals (4d 20h 33m 9s), last said: 'Ice8lue: I won't port the new stuff for 1.4.5. Anyway there is very little new and the bits that are, are most likely something that 2.0 has allowed for me to add'. |
| 05:46.44 | scoutcamper | jhoover09, he hasnt been active in 4 days it seems |
| 05:47.19 | tmandry | or that could be how long he's been in here |
| 05:47.20 | jhoover09 | Yep, thanks for the info scout/rod. |
| 05:48.40 | ka6sox | tmandry, the range of freqencies of a particular string. |
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| 05:49.54 | destinal | Is directfb gone from webos these days? |
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| 05:51.50 | destinal | looks like between 1.4.5 and 2.0.1. hmm |
| 05:52.53 | rwhitby | jhoove09: sconix doesn't do themes as far as I know. |
| 05:53.39 | jhoove09 | I'm getting some bad info in the forums.... who would have though? Thanks Rod |
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| 06:14.51 | PuffTheMagic | wow i cant believe it was a year ago i made freetether |
| 06:23.03 | destinal | sugardave: hmm, I wonder if directfb DOOM as built for the pre still exists anywhere |
| 06:23.27 | destinal | I guess i could just cross compile prboom |
| 06:31.00 | bhuey | rwhitby: yeah, the bits of sql that I'm trying to get to execute isn't happy and I don't know hy |
| 06:31.03 | bhuey | why |
| 06:31.05 | bhuey | it's just hanging on the operation |
| 06:31.28 | bhuey | it makes me wonder if there's a bug with the sqlite3 extension modules that Palm wrote |
| 06:33.48 | bhuey | like there's some kind of infinite loop or something going on in the code |
| 06:36.44 | bhuey | yeah, this sucks |
| 06:36.52 | bhuey | that .so is an ARM executable |
| 06:37.07 | bhuey | and there's no sources for it available to examine |
| 06:42.05 | scoutcamper | bhuey, IMO doctoring is your best bet at recovery |
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| 06:50.20 | Jack87-away | hi people! |
| 06:50.36 | scoutcamper | waves at Jack87-away |
| 06:51.12 | Jack87 | having a good day scoutcamper ? |
| 06:51.55 | Jack87 | is trying to get his hands on a palm pre plus for under $50.. is this doable? |
| 06:51.58 | scoutcamper | yep, and you? |
| 06:52.08 | scoutcamper | Jack87, liekely on ebay with bad esn |
| 06:52.15 | Jack87 | scoutcamper: not bad.. relaxing |
| 06:52.44 | bhuey | scoutcamper: I'll just have to live with it until I can figure out something better to do |
| 06:52.52 | Jack87 | scoutcamper: that be perfect if==but they all seem to go up towards end of auction |
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| 06:53.37 | scoutcamper | Jack87, thats true |
| 06:54.14 | Jack87 | wish i could just find one in the classifieds that be so easy. some chick that didnt think it was cute enough ya know |
| 06:54.25 | scoutcamper | lol |
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| 06:58.58 | Jack87 | ill just keep checking craigslist i suppose :) |
| 06:59.30 | Jack87 | ya know people only pay like 50 bucks with contract so i may run into someone who doesnt like it and wants to break even |
| 07:00.02 | scoutcamper | Jack87, post on craigslist? |
| 07:00.12 | scoutcamper | as a wanted add? |
| 07:00.29 | Jack87 | scoutcamper: not a bad idea...do wanted ads get answered? |
| 07:00.46 | scoutcamper | in my experience, yep |
| 07:01.02 | Jack87 | sweet. i have never done one.. will do though good idea. thanks |
| 07:07.39 | scoutcamper | im off to sleep |
| 07:07.43 | scoutcamper | cya all |
| 07:07.50 | Jack87 | goodnight scoutcamper |
| 07:10.09 | bhuey | scoutcamper: I'll try another version of Firefox that's not beta and see if this can remove those entries |
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| 07:27.41 | Jack87 | ~log |
| 07:27.41 | infobot | log is probably located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/ and the latest log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals.txt |
| 07:48.46 | Jack87 | destinal-sleep: night |
| 07:49.01 | destinal-sleep | Jack87: good night |
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| 08:01.44 | C-Fu | ~log |
| 08:01.44 | infobot | log is, like, located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/ and the latest log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals.txt |
| 08:03.00 | ka6sox-away | g'nite Jack87 |
| 08:03.49 | Jack87 | ka6sox-away: goodnight! |
| 08:03.56 | Jack87 | :) how you had a good weekend |
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| 08:41.23 | bhuey | is going to update his sqlite tools |
| 08:41.36 | bhuey | I'm thinking there might be an incompatibility with the one's on my OS X box |
| 08:55.19 | bhuey | it throws |
| 08:55.19 | bhuey | LOCALIZED_SECONDARY |
| 08:55.21 | bhuey | lame |
| 08:55.29 | bhuey | so close |
| 09:03.13 | bhuey | ok, getting good with: |
| 09:03.13 | bhuey | .load /usr/lib/sqlite3_palm_extension.so |
| 09:03.18 | bhuey | is definitely the winner |
| 09:03.27 | bhuey | too bad I don't have the sources for it |
| 09:05.14 | bhuey | thinks about other options |
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| 09:14.01 | oil | really needs to install the 2 2tb hds on his shelf |
| 09:15.27 | oil | only has 30gb free of the 1.3tb from 4 drives in his pc :( |
| 09:16.38 | rwhitby | oil: impostah now has connection display - we need that json viewer :) |
| 09:16.57 | oil | no, what we really need, is a new name for it |
| 09:17.10 | oil | lol |
| 09:18.29 | rwhitby | and I need to work out how to do reverse DNS lookups in C in Linux |
| 09:20.36 | rwhitby | oil: once we have json viewing and editing, I'll make it be able to add iptable entries to redirect connections to a MITM box. Then the impostah name will start to ring true. |
| 09:27.02 | oil | except that it does a bunch of other stuff, too |
| 09:27.21 | oil | its like the bin everything goes in |
| 09:27.23 | oil | lol |
| 09:27.34 | oil | the junk drawer in the kitchen |
| 09:35.12 | oil | http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/271643-java-virtual-machine-jvm-works-webos-1-45-2-0-a.html |
| 09:35.13 | oil | hmm |
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| 09:55.33 | bhuey | yeah, that sql command to delete that entry worked, it just took forever |
| 09:55.48 | bhuey | wonders if he can serialize the entire db and rebuild a new one from that outputed text |
| 09:56.19 | rwhitby | oil: I wonder if there's any trojans in those binaries ... |
| 09:56.42 | oil | who knows |
| 09:56.52 | oil | which is why a way to see whats being sent out would be useful :) |
| 09:57.39 | rwhitby | well, Impostah shows the connections now ... |
| 09:59.30 | bhuey | it seems like a significant problem with the speed of webos is actually keeping db bits in memory |
| 10:00.12 | bhuey | I have an original Pre so... |
| 10:01.26 | rwhitby | bhuey: db on 2.0 is completely different |
| 10:02.31 | bhuey | rwhitby: yeah, but it's still going to eat memory I would think if they use the same blob schema |
| 10:02.43 | bhuey | I store a lot of messages in the chat app |
| 10:02.57 | rwhitby | bhuey: the schemas are completely different |
| 10:03.05 | bhuey | unless they've changed that, it'll still be subject to that bloat |
| 10:03.06 | bhuey | ok |
| 10:03.09 | rwhitby | the whole synergy system is completely different |
| 10:03.12 | bhuey | good |
| 10:03.19 | bhuey | yeah, it was pushing it |
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| 11:05.15 | bhuey | well, I'll find out whether I not I need to doctor this since I destroyed the original copy of PalmDatabase.db3 by accident |
| 11:05.26 | bhuey | modified copy is in place |
| 11:05.39 | bhuey | the delete statements worked |
| 11:05.53 | bhuey | for a couple of them it took almost a half hour for them to complete |
| 11:05.59 | bhuey | which is a surprise |
| 11:06.37 | bhuey | crosses his fingers |
| 11:07.29 | bhuey | it booted, ok so far |
| 11:10.42 | bhuey | hmm, lots of data deleted, hmmm |
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| 12:17.20 | paperadio | anyone? |
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| 15:43.24 | PuffTheMagic | oooh |
| 15:43.30 | PuffTheMagic | kde4 has tiling support now |
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| 16:51.00 | ice8lue | heyho |
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| 17:02.46 | destinal | ice8lue: yo |
| 17:03.58 | ice8lue | hey destinal |
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| 17:45.48 | CTLAdvance | Anyone know the palm website for accessing your profile |
| 17:46.27 | bpadalino | https://ps.palmws.com/palmcsext/console/pages/LoginPage.iface |
| 17:46.35 | scoutcamper|away | https://ps.palmws.com/palmcsext/console/pages/LoginPage.iface |
| 17:47.55 | CTLAdvance | Thanks! |
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| 19:08.26 | sugardave | destinal: hey, were you meaning to address me re: that DOOM question way back? |
| 19:10.34 | destinal | sugardave: yeah I sent it to you simply because I saw your name on the wiki from that far back, but it's possible you just ported the article from the previous wiki |
| 19:11.14 | sugardave | hmm, I'm not sure I have it, I have Quake, though |
| 19:11.41 | sugardave | and yeah, I think I moved a bunch of articles eraly on |
| 19:11.43 | destinal | this was the version you had to kill Luna to run and ran in directfb writing to the frame buffer |
| 19:11.48 | destinal | really old |
| 19:11.54 | sugardave | yeah, I don't have that :D |
| 19:24.00 | Jack87 | ping swisstomcat |
| 19:24.14 | swisstomcat | pong |
| 19:26.20 | Jack87 | did you ever get your phone working |
| 19:26.45 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: finally figured out the modem thing. just trying to pinpoint the issue you had |
| 19:26.54 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 19:27.08 | swisstomcat | my issue was that somehow the date reset itself to july 16th, 2010 |
| 19:27.23 | swisstomcat | when i changed that back, everything worked again |
| 19:27.38 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: roger that :-) |
| 19:28.37 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: much more simple than my issue was |
| 19:28.51 | swisstomcat | what was yours? |
| 19:29.08 | Jack87 | the modem firmware was messed up and the doctor would not flash it |
| 19:29.18 | Jack87 | phone kept showing offline |
| 19:29.49 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: we talked when i first started trouble shooting i believe on Wednesday or something |
| 19:30.04 | swisstomcat | right |
| 19:31.07 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: wrote out a wiki if you are curious http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/ModemFW_Flash |
| 19:31.37 | swisstomcat | oh, interesting |
| 19:31.41 | swisstomcat | so that made it work agian? |
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| 19:32.35 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: yup... had to manually force the flash because the doctor would error and not do the flash as the modem was "unknown" |
| 19:33.11 | swisstomcat | nice .. and great that you documented it |
| 19:33.21 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: other people used different cdma tools which is way beyond me and has too many risks |
| 19:34.36 | Jack87 | swisstomcat: ya it was such a relief and figured id save others grief since most called it "done" |
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| 19:55.28 | Guest69691 | hello |
| 19:56.09 | Guest69691 | I got a prob with preware can someone please help? |
| 19:56.18 | swisstomcat | hello |
| 19:57.30 | Guest69691 | on feeds error |
| 19:59.55 | swisstomcat | no patience :/ |
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| 20:25.09 | halfhalo | is making/faking buisness cards! |
| 20:27.10 | Jack87 | halfhalo: fake me some i want to look official |
| 20:28.35 | hape | swisstomcat: ping |
| 20:28.41 | swisstomcat | pong |
| 20:28.59 | halfhalo | moooooo |
| 20:29.02 | swisstomcat | wants to put "Bitstacker" on his business card |
| 20:29.19 | halfhalo | needed some for ces |
| 20:29.23 | hape | could you retest the latest navit version? noradtux added some debug. We hope it help us to find the problems wy some Pre2 do not get GPS data |
| 20:29.38 | swisstomcat | i can do |
| 20:29.40 | hape | ipk is here http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.navit_0.5.0.3839-1_armv7.ipk |
| 20:29.49 | swisstomcat | hold on |
| 20:33.15 | swisstomcat | updating |
| 20:34.03 | swisstomcat | hape: i'm starting it |
| 20:35.17 | hape | check the versin. the frrd is pointing to an older version |
| 20:35.53 | swisstomcat | 0.5.0.3849-1 |
| 20:35.58 | hape | it have to be 3739 |
| 20:36.00 | swisstomcat | from said testing feed |
| 20:36.41 | swisstomcat | vehicle_webos:vehicle_webos_open:PDL_ServiceCallWithCallback failed with 2 |
| 20:37.00 | swisstomcat | (process:6586): LunaService-CRITICAL **: Error in transport.c:2259 |
| 20:37.00 | swisstomcat | (process:6586): LunaService-CRITICAL **: Invalid permissions for (null) |
| 20:37.00 | swisstomcat | (process:6586): LunaService-CRITICAL **: sh != NULL from mainloop.c:65 @ LSGmainAttach |
| 20:37.58 | hape | ok, thanks |
| 20:38.04 | swisstomcat | hope that helps |
| 20:38.09 | halfhalo | is using a firesafe to flatten his cards |
| 20:38.24 | swisstomcat | preware also had problems with service calls afaik .. not sure what they had to change |
| 20:41.11 | oil | http://www.sprint.com/landings/weboffers/images/palm_pixi_356x490.png |
| 20:41.12 | oil | ohh |
| 20:41.25 | Tibfib | palm is sure innovating :) |
| 20:41.53 | oil | front facing camera on pixi, meh |
| 20:42.38 | swisstomcat | oil: http://forums.precentral.net/treocentral-com-precentral-net/271709-possible-new-pixi-article-moved-front-page.html |
| 20:42.42 | swisstomcat | read the post from dieter |
| 20:43.26 | oil | booo |
| 20:43.49 | Tibfib | it is too obvious.. |
| 20:43.57 | Tibfib | I don't think that's a light sensor |
| 20:44.24 | halfhalo | I can't believe its not butter^H^H pixi2! |
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| 20:48.36 | oil | doesnt see those two circles on his pixi |
| 20:49.50 | swisstomcat | you have to shine light on there to see |
| 20:49.52 | oil | ok, with a bright light at just the right angle they're BARELY visible |
| 20:50.21 | halfhalo | luls |
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| 21:01.59 | destinal | yeah, light and prox sensors I suppose? |
| 21:02.58 | bpadalino | seems reasonable to guess tha |
| 21:02.59 | bpadalino | t |
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| 21:19.41 | Jack-wIRC | ~log |
| 21:19.41 | infobot | from memory, log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/ and the latest log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals.txt |
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| 21:24.18 | halfhalo | ~nom |
| 21:25.13 | gkatsev | ~botsnack |
| 21:25.13 | infobot | gkatsev: aw, gee |
| 21:25.37 | halfhalo | ~botsmack |
| 21:25.37 | infobot | OWW! |
| 21:41.54 | gkatsev | ~lart halfhalo |
| 21:41.54 | infobot | runs at halfhalo with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 21:42.05 | halfhalo | lol |
| 21:42.15 | halfhalo | ~last gkatsev |
| 21:42.16 | swisstomcat | hey, bring my my knife back |
| 21:42.24 | halfhalo | ~lart gkatsev |
| 21:42.24 | infobot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in gkatsev's direction, hitting gkatsev and sending gkatsev flying into the closet |
| 21:42.35 | halfhalo | I can't type today... |
| 21:42.46 | swisstomcat | ~lart halfhalo |
| 21:42.46 | infobot | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags halfhalo into court suing for $200 million |
| 21:42.52 | swisstomcat | nice |
| 21:43.06 | halfhalo | countersues |
| 21:43.38 | swisstomcat | gets a better lawyer |
| 21:43.49 | gkatsev | lol |
| 21:43.52 | halfhalo | files a civil suit |
| 21:44.26 | swisstomcat | puts on a suit |
| 21:45.12 | halfhalo | gets swiss's case thrown out on a technicality |
| 21:46.50 | swisstomcat | bah |
| 21:49.55 | C-Fu | rawr |
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| 22:44.45 | noradtux | hi swisstomcat |
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| 23:56.08 | bhuey | what scriping languages are on the Palm Pre |
| 23:56.09 | bhuey | ? |
| 23:56.16 | bhuey | python ? perl ? ruby ? |
| 23:56.35 | rwhitby | all of the above, through Optware |
| 23:56.38 | rwhitby | and more |
| 23:57.13 | ka6sox-away | erlang |
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| 23:59.54 | gkatsev | javascript ftw! |
