| 00:09.46 | oil | thinks wirc app in catalog that isn't the real wirc is a bad idea |
| 00:11.12 | oil | PuffTheMagic: ^ |
| 00:12.14 | cryptk | thinks it will never pass the app guidelines |
| 00:13.01 | rwhitby | Ben basically said on the W|R devcast that they would accept wIRC as an early hybrid app. Should just work on making that happen. |
| 00:14.10 | cryptk | rwhitby: having a problem with make backup http://webos.pastebin.com/dQwRJaEB |
| 00:14.43 | rwhitby | cryptk: memboot it first |
| 00:15.07 | cryptk | memboot or recovery mode? |
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| 00:15.33 | rwhitby | "make memboot backup" |
| 00:15.48 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: how exactly can i "make that happen" |
| 00:15.52 | PuffTheMagic | i have no clout |
| 00:16.02 | rwhitby | PuffTheMagic: have you discussed it with Ben? |
| 00:16.09 | PuffTheMagic | sure have |
| 00:16.09 | cryptk | Please download the correct version of the webOS Doctor .jar file |
| 00:16.09 | cryptk | and then move it to downloads/webosdoctorundefined-.jar (i.e. the downloads directory that was just created under the current directory). |
| 00:16.21 | cryptk | but I have webosdoctorp100ewwsprint-1.4.5.jar in there already |
| 00:16.23 | Mousey | nope |
| 00:16.27 | Mousey | updates ate all my patches |
| 00:16.35 | Mousey | prepares to EPR =( |
| 00:16.40 | rwhitby | PuffTheMagic: provided them with the latest ipk file, created an app catalog account, submitted the application and all corresponding material / |
| 00:17.04 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: i havent created any accounts |
| 00:17.10 | PuffTheMagic | but he has a recent ipk |
| 00:17.29 | rwhitby | you're a long way away from having something in the app catalog if you don't even have an account yet |
| 00:17.30 | oil | didn't someone create a webos-internals account for the catalog? |
| 00:18.18 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: hybirds have to be allowed before making an account makses sense |
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| 00:18.37 | oil | and we would need to remove dcc |
| 00:18.43 | rwhitby | PuffTheMagic: you seem to want to make it hard for yourself by not following the required process until too late |
| 00:18.45 | oil | since we can't write to /media/internal |
| 00:19.12 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: its not that im trying to not folloow the required process, that just seems premature to me |
| 00:19.38 | rwhitby | PuffTheMagic: you're looking at it the wrong way then. you're working with a company - you need to follow their process, not the other way around |
| 00:19.53 | cryptk | rwhitby: http://webos.pastebin.com/GJZ5h1Dx |
| 00:20.50 | rwhitby | cryptk: "make CARRIER=foo memboot backup" |
| 00:22.41 | Mousey | oh nm, 31 package updates |
| 00:22.45 | Mousey | pushes update all |
| 00:27.33 | thomascoe1 | Is it possible to boot a Pre with verbose boot, so you can see what is happening as it happens while the Pre is booting? Like how you can enable verbose mode on an iPhone or iPod touch when you jailbreak it. I know you can SSH into the Pre to see what it' |
| 00:27.33 | thomascoe1 | s doing while it's booting, but is there a way to view this directly on the Pre's screen while it's booting? |
| 00:28.02 | ShadeS | it would sure b e nice to be able to ssh FROM the pre... |
| 00:28.09 | cryptk | thomascoe1: I have been looking into that off and on but so far no luch |
| 00:28.10 | Mousey | you can't? |
| 00:28.12 | cryptk | ShadeS: you can |
| 00:28.16 | cryptk | I have done it |
| 00:28.20 | Mousey | i do it routinely |
| 00:28.22 | ShadeS | I have to unlock it first though right? |
| 00:28.27 | ShadeS | with the up up down down business? |
| 00:28.27 | cryptk | indeed, I do it oftin |
| 00:28.37 | ShadeS | there isn't just an ssh application in the prestore available |
| 00:28.42 | ShadeS | i looked a few times, butnot recently |
| 00:28.50 | cryptk | no, isn't one in the store, homebrew only |
| 00:29.00 | ShadeS | for a while ther ewasn't anythin gin the pre store then I had to agree to some new ToS after some upgrade and lots of stuff is listed now |
| 00:29.02 | cryptk | btw, a shorter version of the dev mode code is webos20090606 |
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| 00:29.22 | ShadeS | i need to back up my logs and stuff before i start potentially bricking it |
| 00:29.22 | cryptk | if you don't have preware you are missing out on a bunch |
| 00:29.35 | ShadeS | yeah I got it with the intentions of unlocking it on release day |
| 00:29.39 | cryptk | you can't brick a pre/pixi |
| 00:29.41 | ShadeS | but oh well I guess i got busy with other things |
| 00:29.49 | cryptk | well, not unless you are trying to |
| 00:30.02 | Mousey | isn't trying to |
| 00:30.05 | cryptk | there are some things you can do to brick it, but you have to go into the phone and intentionally do them |
| 00:30.16 | SineOt | yeah it's pretty hard to manage that, I've had my Pixi get unplugged in the middle of doctoring it and it's was fine, just had to boot holding volume up |
| 00:30.17 | cryptk | you can even wipe out the bootloader (I have done it) |
| 00:30.25 | cryptk | yep |
| 00:30.35 | cryptk | I have even wiped it to where that doesn't work and still brought it back |
| 00:30.42 | Mousey | i find gravity is the best app for bricking a pre |
| 00:30.55 | cryptk | I find a brick works better |
| 00:30.58 | ShadeS | i dropped my pre a good few times |
| 00:31.03 | ShadeS | parts of the plstic chipped off |
| 00:31.06 | ShadeS | but it still 'works' |
| 00:31.06 | thomascoe1 | You could also brick it running an old overclocking kernel that would let it run too hot and burn out the procesor. Well really, you could do that any time if the Pre was somewhere really hot |
| 00:31.09 | ShadeS | but barely i need to replace it |
| 00:31.10 | cryptk | but the combination of the two... now that is just about guaranteed |
| 00:31.19 | Mousey | they'd really benefit from some gorilla glass |
| 00:31.33 | ShadeS | is that like gorilla glue? |
| 00:31.36 | cryptk | I fixed my 360 once by overheating it intentionally |
| 00:31.48 | cryptk | wrapped it up in a blanket and let it run to fix the RROD |
| 00:31.55 | Mousey | weird |
| 00:32.23 | cryptk | common cause of RROD is solder cracks from overheating... the solution... overheat it more so the solder re-melts and the cracks go away |
| 00:32.25 | Mousey | why does microsoft always seem to have a ${color} ${noun} of death? |
| 00:32.33 | cryptk | lol |
| 00:32.47 | ShadeS | rrod? |
| 00:32.49 | cryptk | it RROD'd again 2 months later though so I sent it in to get it replaced... this one is going strong |
| 00:32.54 | cryptk | red ring of death |
| 00:33.05 | ShadeS | oh |
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| 00:34.51 | Mousey | how do i update/remove multi-mod?! |
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| 00:36.08 | cryptk | rwhitby: thanks man, got it working! |
| 00:36.28 | cryptk | now THIS is save/restore, lol |
| 00:36.36 | rwhitby | cryptk: well, it's save ... |
| 00:36.43 | cryptk | true... |
| 00:36.50 | rwhitby | the restore bit isn't working yet. |
| 00:36.54 | cryptk | ahh |
| 00:37.05 | cryptk | maybe I will take a look at it |
| 00:37.06 | rwhitby | the idea is that you then use those tarballs to create a custom doctor containing the info |
| 00:37.18 | rwhitby | the code to do it is there, but there's some bug |
| 00:37.24 | cryptk | seems you could also do it the same way you pull the data |
| 00:37.40 | rwhitby | yeah, could do that too |
| 00:37.41 | cryptk | skip creating the doctor... just push it back right from the clone |
| 00:37.54 | cryptk | something like make memboot restore cloneID |
| 00:38.03 | cryptk | and optionally have cloneID defined in the makefile |
| 00:38.14 | rwhitby | make CLONE=... |
| 00:38.31 | cryptk | maybe even be able to make CLONE=latest |
| 00:38.44 | cryptk | in case you have more than one clone |
| 00:39.42 | cryptk | is still surprised how resilient my bootie mods are... |
| 00:40.30 | cryptk | btw, the bootie mods could be made into an installable ipk... but I haven't done it yet because I feel it is too dangerous |
| 00:40.36 | cryptk | lol |
| 00:41.33 | PuffTheMagic | new American Chopper tonight :D |
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| 00:44.40 | PuffTheMagic | cryptk: bootie mod? |
| 00:44.51 | cryptk | custom bootie logos |
| 00:44.56 | cryptk | like the static palm logo |
| 00:45.10 | cryptk | mine has Webos Internals under it now |
| 00:45.36 | chrisA | I preferred when we had it be the droid animation |
| 00:47.18 | oil | ah, the capital a now? |
| 00:48.56 | dtzWill | good move, i was also surprised to learn your gender. |
| 00:49.19 | cryptk | I think I was one of the rare few that did... |
| 00:49.27 | cryptk | hence me bringing up the casing recommendation, lol |
| 00:49.33 | oil | always knew he was a dude |
| 00:50.02 | dtzWill | well his whois makes it clear, is how i knew |
| 00:51.00 | cryptk | laughs as everyone does a /whois chrisA |
| 00:51.08 | oil | did, haha |
| 00:52.44 | cryptk | the EIC of Wired Mag is Chris Anderson... |
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| 01:36.42 | coveredwagonkid | question: where would be the best place to have some Navit questions answered? |
| 01:37.35 | cryptk | possibly here if it is something pre specific |
| 01:37.46 | cryptk | or #navit if it is something dealing with navit in general |
| 01:37.55 | cryptk | what is the question? |
| 01:39.07 | coveredwagonkid | I'm having trouble getting to map layer to display, but I will admit I haven't looked in the forums yet... |
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| 01:39.37 | coveredwagonkid | this gave me the excuse to use wirc after the 1.4.5 update |
| 01:40.54 | ralph_ | anybody seen a doctor fail @ 4% repeatedly with different computers & cables? |
| 01:41.41 | oil | always a good reason to get on wirc :) |
| 01:42.37 | halfhalo_pre | there's never a reason for wirc |
| 01:42.38 | coveredwagonkid | @oil I accidentally installed the wirc update when it went hybrid and it broke for me... |
| 01:42.46 | oil | oh |
| 01:43.08 | coveredwagonkid | so now I can use it again :) |
| 01:43.24 | cryptk | coveredwagonkid: you coulda fixed it by removing wirc, turning off testing feeds and then reinstalling |
| 01:43.37 | coveredwagonkid | true |
| 01:43.39 | cryptk | new wirc was testing only until the OTA hit the US |
| 01:44.10 | cryptk | ralph_: have you tried it in recovery mode? |
| 01:44.16 | cryptk | the vol up power on trick |
| 01:44.19 | ralph_ | yeah |
| 01:44.23 | ralph_ | only way i have |
| 01:45.15 | cryptk | hrm... |
| 01:45.31 | cryptk | 4% is when the phone should be rebooting after the ramdisk is transferred |
| 01:45.48 | cryptk | coveredwagonkid: do you have the map file in the right place? |
| 01:45.59 | ralph_ | i did a full erase too, but some of my patches are still there |
| 01:46.28 | cryptk | ralph_: the full erase doesn't remove the patches, it only removes the installers I think |
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| 01:46.40 | coveredwagonkid | cryptpk: originally no, but I moved it to the appdata folder |
| 01:46.41 | cryptk | I am assuming you have let it sit for a bit at 4% |
| 01:47.19 | cryptk | did you check for the fstab bug? |
| 01:47.23 | ralph_ | @ 4 % the palm logo appears on the pre, and the computer makes the noise of removable device being removed |
| 01:47.47 | ralph_ | nope, whats that? |
| 01:47.51 | cryptk | coveredwagonkid: run this command 'cat /etc/fstab|grep internal' and let me know the output |
| 01:48.00 | cryptk | sorry fstab bug was to coveredwagonkid |
| 01:48.10 | ralph_ | oh |
| 01:48.10 | coveredwagonkid | wouldn't the fstab patch fix that? |
| 01:48.16 | cryptk | the EFF yes |
| 01:48.39 | coveredwagonkid | I believe I already installed the EFF |
| 01:48.47 | cryptk | may as well check |
| 01:48.56 | cryptk | also, the maps are in appdata/org.webosinternals.navit/maps/ right? |
| 01:52.02 | cryptk | ralph_: have you tried re-downloading the doc? |
| 01:52.06 | coveredwagonkid | umask is 000000 |
| 01:52.19 | ralph_ | yeah, each time on 3 different computers |
| 01:52.20 | coveredwagonkid | and yes that is where I put the map |
| 01:53.02 | ralph_ | all running xp, my next thought was try it using wosqi |
| 01:53.31 | cryptk | wosqi doesn't doctor |
| 01:53.50 | cryptk | not that I know of at least |
| 01:54.41 | cryptk | how long have you let it sit at 4% for? |
| 01:55.00 | ralph_ | yeah but since some of my patches still seem to be on there even after the full erase, i want to look too see if i can remove everything on there |
| 01:55.29 | cryptk | try EPI and the EPR |
| 01:55.38 | cryptk | update preware feeds before doing EPI |
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| 01:56.04 | ralph_ | after the palm logo hits the pre @ 4 i figured it was canceled, the doctor also says that it lost connection |
| 01:56.34 | cryptk | try reinstalling novacom |
| 01:56.38 | cryptk | you can do that in WOSQI |
| 01:56.44 | cryptk | I think it is under tools somewhere |
| 01:56.49 | cryptk | attempt novacom reinstallation |
| 01:57.47 | cryptk | then retry the install |
| 01:58.03 | cryptk | also are you doing this plugged directly into the comp or plugged into a hub/keyboard/monitor |
| 01:58.44 | cryptk | coveredwagonkid: did you reboot after running EFF? |
| 01:59.14 | coveredwagonkid | cry:i thought I did but I will run it again |
| 02:00.04 | cryptk | if that command returns '/dev/mapper/store-media /media/internal vfat utf8,shortname=mixed,umask=0000 0 0 ' with the umask part then it is already run, but may not be in affect |
| 02:00.12 | rwhitby | 4% means that the host computer is not picking up the USB driver after the reboot of the device |
| 02:00.15 | cryptk | a reboot (full, not luna only) will fix that |
| 02:00.43 | cryptk | would a novacom reinstall possibly fix that? |
| 02:00.59 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: trying now... I will return |
| 02:01.49 | ralph_ | i get an error report console on the systeminfo task when i attempt novocom reinstallation |
| 02:02.23 | ralph_ | rwhitby: can i manually install the usb driver? |
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| 02:03.29 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: installed and luna reboot in process |
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| 02:03.53 | cryptk | luna reboot or full device reboot? |
| 02:04.10 | cryptk | it needs a full device reboot |
| 02:04.14 | coveredwagonkid | whatever the EFF automatically prompts for |
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| 02:04.27 | cryptk | did it go to a static palm logo? |
| 02:04.28 | coveredwagonkid | my guess based on how lonw its taking is full restart |
| 02:04.39 | coveredwagonkid | yes |
| 02:04.48 | cryptk | ok, full restart |
| 02:05.05 | cryptk | also, what is the filename of the map you downloaded? |
| 02:05.45 | rwhitby | ralph_: what host OS are you running? |
| 02:05.51 | ralph_ | xp |
| 02:06.05 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk i created my own because the US one listed on the Navit page isnt reporting its file size and is now over 1.4 GB and still going |
| 02:06.44 | cryptk | did you create it with the extractor thing linked from the wiki entry? |
| 02:06.58 | coveredwagonkid | yes |
| 02:07.14 | coveredwagonkid | i only picked my region so it was smaller |
| 02:07.28 | cryptk | hrm... |
| 02:07.57 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: output from CLI root@palm-webos-device: cat /etc/fstab|grep internal |
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| 02:09.05 | coveredwagonkid | root@palm-webos-device: cat /etc/fstab|grep internal /dev/mapper/store-media /media/internal vfat utf8,shortname=mixed,umask=0000 0 |
| 02:09.36 | coveredwagonkid | that was after directly running EFF and doing a full restart |
| 02:10.25 | cryptk | cool |
| 02:10.28 | cryptk | try navit |
| 02:10.33 | cryptk | lemme know what happens |
| 02:10.49 | cryptk | btw, I don't know much about navit so I am just running through the general steps... |
| 02:10.58 | cryptk | making sure you didn't miss anything from the wiki etc |
| 02:11.10 | cryptk | the filename ends in .bin right? |
| 02:11.30 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: yup and thanks for your help regardless |
| 02:11.46 | cryptk | np |
| 02:12.08 | coveredwagonkid | loaded navit, still does not show map layer |
| 02:12.26 | coveredwagonkid | but is reporting the proper GPS Lat/Long |
| 02:13.13 | cryptk | so it knows where you are... I am assuming that you know where you live and as such selected the correct area on the extractor, lol |
| 02:13.35 | coveredwagonkid | i would certainly hope so, lol |
| 02:13.54 | coveredwagonkid | does anyone know how large the USA map is that is linked on the Navit wiki page? |
| 02:14.01 | ralph_ | so the novocom reinstall still crashes |
| 02:14.30 | cryptk | does the novacom reinstall crash or does the doctor crash? |
| 02:14.39 | cryptk | and by crash we mean disconnects right? |
| 02:15.00 | ralph_ | no, this is just trying to reinstall novocom |
| 02:15.03 | rwhitby | ralph_: sorry mate, no idea about novacom on windows. |
| 02:15.13 | cryptk | hrm... |
| 02:15.16 | rwhitby | ralph_: have you installed the Palm SDK ? |
| 02:15.21 | ralph_ | yeah my next idea was to try linux |
| 02:15.30 | cryptk | he is attempting the reinstall with WOSQI |
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| 02:15.54 | rwhitby | bah, forget WOSQI. Just install the official Palm SDK and use that to install Preware. |
| 02:16.09 | cryptk | he is trying to doctor |
| 02:16.14 | cryptk | can't get past 4% |
| 02:16.15 | coveredwagonkid | rwhitby: do you think it was just an error that the new webos dr only lists mac and windows? |
| 02:16.46 | rwhitby | coveredwagonkid: no idea |
| 02:17.10 | rwhitby | cryptk: right. use an official tool to get novacom working, not a third-party tool |
| 02:17.25 | cryptk | good point |
| 02:17.36 | cryptk | ralph_: go with the palm SDK |
| 02:17.55 | tomlee | ping |
| 02:17.58 | cryptk | also try removing the novacom that is already installed first via add/remove programs |
| 02:18.03 | cryptk | pong |
| 02:18.11 | ralph_ | cool |
| 02:18.14 | ralph_ | will do |
| 02:18.17 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: i think my next course of action will be to download the entire globe map and see how that works... |
| 02:18.35 | cryptk | that one will def load slow, lol |
| 02:18.49 | tomlee | hrmm, my pre backup utility seems to be taking a long time... |
| 02:19.43 | tomlee | does it ever finish? |
| 02:20.02 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: well considering that the USA only map is still downloading at 1.4 GB and counting, that is about 50% of the advertised size of the entire planet :) |
| 02:23.18 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: also, looking at the navit.log file, it is reporting an error loading the *.bin file i loaded |
| 02:24.28 | cryptk | what is the error? |
| 02:26.40 | cryptk | can you pastebin a chunk of the log including that error |
| 02:28.47 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: map_binfile:map_binfile_open:invalid file format for "media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit//maps/osm_bbox_-125.4,24.3,-66.5,49.3.bin' |
| 02:29.17 | cryptk | try re-downloading the file... |
| 02:30.18 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: can do |
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| 02:31.54 | Cinna | im at my wit's end here with this webosquickinstall error device not found issue... i've restarted my computer and phone several times, reinstalled novacom several times, tried it on an win xp and win 7 computer, dev mode is on |
| 02:32.01 | Cinna | HELP PLEASE IM GOING CRAZY! |
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| 02:32.27 | Cinna | also tried not doing anything when connecting the phone and selecting just charge |
| 02:33.23 | Cinna | any ideas? |
| 02:33.53 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: just went to the exytractor and reselected a smaller section of the map for my area, hopefully this will do the trick |
| 02:34.43 | cryptk | Cinna: does novaterm work? |
| 02:35.06 | cryptk | also, this technically isn't the place for WOSQI help (we don't make it, lol) |
| 02:35.16 | Cinna | havent seen that suggestion yet |
| 02:35.19 | cryptk | but first step would be to see if you can novaterm in |
| 02:35.20 | Cinna | what do i do |
| 02:35.47 | cryptk | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_Using_Novaterm |
| 02:35.49 | Cinna | ah yeah sorry about that, its the only chat i could find that was related in some small way |
| 02:36.46 | cryptk | the main part you want to do is on windows, run novaterm.exe or novaterm-1.exe from the palm/sdk/bin directory. (use explorer or a command line) (if this doesn't work, run novacom -t open tty:// ) |
| 02:37.05 | cryptk | the palm/sdk/bin directory they are talking about is in C:\Program Files\ |
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| 02:37.26 | cryptk | or if you are on a 64 bit machine C:\Program Files (x86)\ |
| 02:37.26 | Cinna | k |
| 02:37.45 | Cinna | am i just checking if novaterm can get root access? |
| 02:40.13 | cryptk | yes |
| 02:40.45 | Cinna | k, im following the instructions to get access and downloading the files... its a good thing im on a fast connection |
| 02:40.59 | cryptk | which files are you downloading? the palm SDK? |
| 02:41.13 | Cinna | updating java, palm sdk 1.4.5 |
| 02:41.30 | Cinna | im sure i have the newest java but i did it again just to be safe |
| 02:41.37 | cryptk | ahh |
| 02:43.05 | Cinna | palm has a speedy server for their sdk i see |
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| 02:50.10 | rwhitby | They use akamai |
| 02:53.21 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: i think i may have found out what my problem was with navit... |
| 02:53.33 | cryptk | what's that? |
| 02:53.42 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: lets just say there was an issue between the seat and keyboard |
| 02:53.57 | cryptk | was it something not covered by the wiki? |
| 02:54.53 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: i ended up putting the partially downloaded file on the device, not the complete one i should have |
| 02:55.01 | cryptk | ahh, lol |
| 02:55.09 | coveredwagonkid | <facepalm> |
| 02:55.10 | cryptk | ok, just wanted to see if wiki needed updating |
| 02:55.12 | rwhitby | pebkac |
| 02:55.17 | cryptk | damn |
| 02:55.21 | cryptk | meat me to it rwhitby |
| 02:55.31 | cryptk | Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair |
| 02:55.59 | coveredwagonkid | yup, thats why i said it :) |
| 02:56.33 | coveredwagonkid | the wiki was very helpful on how to set it up, very straightforward |
| 02:56.42 | coveredwagonkid | just a stupid error on my part |
| 02:57.07 | Tibfib | dtzWill: ping |
| 02:58.55 | cryptk | no biggie, we all have those moments |
| 02:59.34 | coveredwagonkid | cryptk: thanks again for your help on this. i think its time for bed, before i have more pebkac moments tonight! |
| 02:59.38 | coveredwagonkid | goodnight all! |
| 02:59.52 | cryptk | later |
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| 03:21.27 | ralph_ | wow, it worked, its doctored |
| 03:21.50 | ralph_ | thank you so much everyone |
| 03:22.17 | rwhitby | ralph_: what worked in the end? |
| 03:22.43 | cryptk | was it installing the SDK? |
| 03:23.08 | ralph_ | well it was really weird, i dl'd the sdk, novacom installed, i ran the doctor, and this time it said "we were unable to reset your phone" right off the bat |
| 03:23.34 | cryptk | but it still doctored? |
| 03:24.08 | ralph_ | i ran the doctor one more time and the palm logo showed up at 4% again, but then all the sudden it kept going and the flash symbol showed up on the pre |
| 03:24.21 | ralph_ | im at 30% now |
| 03:25.42 | ralph_ | so yeah i think the sdk did the trick |
| 03:27.05 | cryptk | cool |
| 03:27.42 | ralph_ | yeah thanks again |
| 03:28.44 | dtzWill | Tibfib: pong |
| 03:33.54 | ralph_ | thanks again, its done, night all |
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| 03:45.52 | eboyd | hello all, i need a link to a faq showing the propper steps for upgrading to 1.4.5 with patches and governah/uberkernel installed |
| 03:46.41 | eboyd | i would actually like to use the webosdoctor to do the install and have already used the save/restore app |
| 03:48.50 | cryptk | you can update your saved packages list in preware, update save/restore, remove any themes, run the update, go into preware and update feeds, install all updates |
| 03:49.18 | cryptk | govnah doesn't matter, it is an app... patches use AUPT so they are OTA safe, same with kernels |
| 03:49.30 | cryptk | unless you have patches which were not installed via preware |
| 03:49.37 | cryptk | if you do, uninstall those patches first |
| 03:49.49 | cryptk | right before the OTA |
| 03:49.50 | eboyd | yeah, but the save game bug, plus it's been a while since the last dring, would probably feel better about doing a fresh install. |
| 03:50.06 | cryptk | after the OTA run the Emergency Fstab Fixer |
| 03:50.10 | eboyd | all patches were done with preware |
| 03:50.13 | cryptk | that fixes the save game bug |
| 03:50.42 | cryptk | good, then do what I said earlier, but after you get done with the OTA run the EFF to fix the PDK bug |
| 03:51.12 | cryptk | if you really just wanna doctor... |
| 03:51.18 | eboyd | still kinda wanting to do the dr tho, been kinda buggy |
| 03:51.47 | eboyd | gut a couple of patches i cant update too |
| 03:51.57 | eboyd | got, sheesh |
| 03:53.03 | cryptk | then update saved packages list in preware, update save/restore, doctor to 1.4.5, wait for all app cat apps to finish reinstalling (can take 2+ hours), reinstall preware (do NOT do this until after app cat apps are done), reinstall save/restore via preware, open save/restore and restore preware only, go into preware and restore packages from saved packages list, go into save restore and restore everything else |
| 03:53.56 | eboyd | awesome! this s exactly what i have been searching for |
| 03:54.21 | eboyd | search on precentral appears to be borked right now |
| 03:55.42 | eboyd | is there a way to set up the wifi first before the app cat apps DL over EV? |
| 03:56.45 | cryptk | well, you can go into the list of apps in the app cat, pause all downloads (I think there may be a button at the bottom for it, don't remember), set up wifi and then unpause them |
| 03:57.28 | eboyd | SMS tone per contact and diffstat are stuck in my package updates too, also leading me to want to dr |
| 03:57.57 | eboyd | ok, i'll see |
| 03:58.14 | eboyd | thanks cryptk |
| 03:59.05 | cryptk | diffstat won't remove because it is required by the patches |
| 03:59.18 | eboyd | no, but it wont update either |
| 03:59.19 | cryptk | you would need to uninstall all patches to remove it |
| 03:59.34 | cryptk | ...don't remember an update coming out for diffstat |
| 03:59.54 | eboyd | preware is showing that it needs updating |
| 04:00.18 | eboyd | breaks the update all option every time |
| 04:00.39 | cryptk | and it won't remove? |
| 04:00.47 | cryptk | I was mistaken I think it is Lsdiff used by patches |
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| 04:01.13 | cryptk | if you wanna do it the doc route have at it, just know it will take a long time |
| 04:01.29 | cryptk | you can skip the EFF if you do doc, it isn't needed... the bug only applies to OTA |
| 04:01.59 | eboyd | do sms messages survive the dr, or do i run a webos Backup just to make sure |
| 04:02.18 | eboyd | yup read that about the eff |
| 04:04.31 | rwhitby | sms messages survive nothing |
| 04:04.51 | rwhitby | and any backup program that says it can restore them safely is misleading |
| 04:05.19 | rwhitby | so check the precentral thread on any such program before using it |
| 04:06.32 | eboyd | do i need to deactivate anything with govnah first? |
| 04:07.49 | rwhitby | no |
| 04:10.32 | BeeRad | rwhitby: How goes it? |
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| 04:26.38 | egaudet | you can remove diffstat |
| 04:27.12 | cryptk | yeah, it is Lsdiff the patches use right? |
| 04:27.16 | egaudet | yeah |
| 04:27.19 | cryptk | I came back and corrected that |
| 04:27.49 | egaudet | they used to use diffstat, but that had a "bug" that didn't list some files in a unified diff if the patched line began with tab |
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| 04:29.33 | cryptk | food time before sleep time |
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| 04:56.46 | cryptk | mmm MacDahnalds |
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| 05:34.37 | rwhitby | BeeRad: good |
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| 05:42.47 | Tman | rwhitby: ok so I tried running `make backup` with meta-doctor and I'm getting this error: http://webos-internals.pastebin.com/SpXF8HT0 |
| 05:43.07 | rwhitby | Tman: "make CARRIER=foo memboot backup" |
| 05:43.37 | Tman | ok. for sprint use 'sprint'? |
| 05:43.54 | rwhitby | check the top of the Makefile for valid options |
| 05:45.16 | Tman | rwhitby: ok thanks. I'm running 1.4.1.1 right now, should I modify the Makefile accordingly? |
| 05:46.50 | Tman | crosses fingers |
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| 05:49.02 | Tman | rwhitby: appears to be working, thanks |
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| 07:20.36 | swisstomcat | morning |
| 07:27.10 | jhojho | has anyone heard of any issues with sound after the 1.4.5 update (for the pixi)? |
| 07:28.05 | jhojho | getting a complaint that sound stopped working after the update this am (i.e. no ringing etc.) |
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| 07:30.54 | CorpX | i cant seem to update rom only toggle |
| 07:31.06 | CorpX | with 1.4.5 |
| 07:31.17 | swisstomcat | hmm? |
| 07:31.50 | CorpX | cant remove it either |
| 07:31.51 | CorpX | weird? |
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| 07:38.39 | swisstomcat | what exactly are you doing? |
| 07:40.36 | CorpX | just hitting update |
| 07:41.06 | rwhitby | what is rom only toggle? |
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| 07:42.54 | guy | helloñ |
| 07:43.38 | Guest7265 | having trouble with 'nextstepl after doctering... |
| 07:44.04 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 07:44.27 | rwhitby | Guest7265: what are you referring to? |
| 07:44.42 | Guest7265 | camera and audio stop working |
| 07:44.57 | swisstomcat | after doctoring? |
| 07:45.03 | Guest7265 | can not login via ssh. |
| 07:45.05 | Guest7265 | . |
| 07:45.05 | swisstomcat | what device to which version? |
| 07:45.05 | Guest7265 | . |
| 07:45.05 | Guest7265 | .. |
| 07:45.06 | Guest7265 | . |
| 07:45.09 | Guest7265 | pre |
| 07:45.14 | Guest7265 | sorrt... |
| 07:45.29 | Guest7265 | on pre in browser.... |
| 07:46.27 | swisstomcat | camera and audio stops working, ssh stops working, what else? |
| 07:46.34 | swisstomcat | and what version of webos did you doctor it to? |
| 07:46.47 | Guest7265 | so dr is good.. But I lose camera and audio after nextstep install? Logs say it can't open audiod err something.. |
| 07:47.06 | Guest7265 | 1.4.1.1 |
| 07:47.32 | Guest7265 | ssh attempts connect. But can't open my home... |
| 07:47.41 | rwhitby | well, you certainly won't be able to ssh to a device after doctoring it |
| 07:48.17 | Guest7265 | how about after dr + nextstep? |
| 07:48.23 | swisstomcat | yeah, because developer mode is not enabled |
| 07:48.27 | swisstomcat | (yet) |
| 07:48.38 | swisstomcat | what's "nextstep install" |
| 07:48.47 | Guest7265 | should I use the the dropbear and sftp packages instead? |
| 07:49.15 | swisstomcat | i'd re-enable developer mode first |
| 07:49.31 | Guest7265 | I use ipkg-opt.. Can I use that without nextstepan |
| 07:49.41 | Guest7265 | dev mode is on.. |
| 07:49.44 | swisstomcat | what's nextstep? |
| 07:49.45 | rwhitby | what instructions are you following? |
| 07:50.10 | Guest7265 | the old ones on the nextstep wiki page. |
| 07:50.23 | rwhitby | dont |
| 07:50.43 | rwhitby | use openssh package in preware, following the instructions on the wiki page for it |
| 07:50.44 | Guest7265 | used em at 1.2 and recently on my wifes pre after doctering wo a problem. |
| 07:50.52 | rwhitby | dont |
| 07:50.59 | Guest7265 | k. |
| 07:51.12 | Guest7265 | will dr again and try that. |
| 07:51.26 | Guest7265 | what about ipkg-opt? |
| 07:51.49 | Guest7265 | can I install cron, joe, svn, etc still? |
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| 07:52.15 | Guest7265 | need my joe.. Lol |
| 07:53.01 | Guest7265 | oh and dynamic dns package.. And lighttp, etc... |
| 07:54.11 | rwhitby | yep, all that is fine. |
| 07:54.27 | rwhitby | but the page you are following clearly says at the top not to use that obsolete method |
| 07:54.28 | Guest7265 | rorod? Is the ipkg-opt sti... Kewl.. Thanks.. |
| 07:55.15 | Guest7265 | well is says if you just want sftp... Otherwise continue.. Err something.. |
| 07:55.51 | Guest7265 | I'll dr again tomorrow and use packages instead.. |
| 07:56.05 | Guest7265 | thanks... |
| 07:56.47 | Guest7265 | still wanna eventually get that rrd snmp junk turned into a package.. |
| 07:57.10 | Guest7265 | : |
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| 07:57.43 | Guest7265 | tried a fully local version but it was pretty cpu intense. |
| 07:58.24 | rwhitby | Guest7265: which page again? I'll fix what it says to be more forceful |
| 07:59.09 | Guest7265 | sI can fix it too... Err it's the nextstep page. Can look in a few minutes.. |
| 08:01.11 | CorpX | raoming only toggle i mean |
| 08:01.12 | Guest7265 | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Next_steps |
| 08:02.26 | Guest7265 | maybe change to say.. Use opensssh package instead. With pointers to using ipkg-opt... |
| 08:04.09 | swisstomcat | aha, the patch "roam only toggle" |
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| 08:12.34 | rwhitby | dramatically changes http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Next_steps |
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| 12:16.54 | bhodder | Hi |
| 12:17.07 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 12:17.19 | swisstomcat | it's been a while since i built the widk stuff |
| 12:17.25 | bhodder | Oh ok |
| 12:17.28 | swisstomcat | what's your base os? |
| 12:17.40 | bhodder | base os is ubuntu 10.4 |
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| 12:19.14 | bhodder | When it gets to 'checking for XFONT' that is when I get 'No package 'fontsproto' found'. |
| 12:19.16 | swisstomcat | that should work |
| 12:19.22 | swisstomcat | i read |
| 12:19.35 | swisstomcat | i used a 9.1 server last time i tried |
| 12:20.19 | swisstomcat | any widk experts in the house? |
| 12:20.53 | bhodder | I though it should work, I even just build the dependencies for xserver |
| 12:24.23 | bhodder | It appears no one is on :( |
| 12:25.59 | swisstomcat | hmm, found some old chat logs |
| 12:26.32 | swisstomcat | >>cryptkso... on make stage... I am getting an error, missing package fontsproto when it is trying to build x/xfonts |
| 12:26.56 | bhodder | That is the same one I am getting |
| 12:27.13 | swisstomcat | >>sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-core fixed it... |
| 12:27.29 | swisstomcat | >>I think libxfont-dev may have been the package I needed |
| 12:28.40 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 12:28.51 | swisstomcat | also found this "make -j4 stage" for multi-core |
| 12:29.06 | bhodder | ohhh |
| 12:29.22 | bhodder | i tried the build-dep and nothing |
| 12:29.39 | bhodder | but maybe ill try "make -j4 stage" |
| 12:30.33 | swisstomcat | did you try sudo apt-get libxfont-dev too? |
| 12:33.16 | bhodder | not yet |
| 12:33.37 | bhodder | but i do have a dual core machine |
| 12:35.23 | bhodder | I am trying "make -j4 stage" at the moment. The libxfont-dev was already installed |
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| 12:37.41 | bhodder | i gotta head out for a few but be on later to retry |
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| 13:57.35 | bhodder | doing "make -j4 stage now |
| 13:59.22 | swisstomcat | k |
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| 14:24.35 | bhodder | swisstomcat: I think it may have gotten through it this time :) |
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| 15:18.48 | swisstomcat | yay |
| 15:21.12 | bhodder | I got past fonts proto but now I recive this and Im not sure what library is missing : checking for main in -ldotconf... no |
| 15:21.12 | bhodder | *** Required DotConf library missing! See INSTALL . |
| 15:21.41 | en0x | Required DotConf library missing! |
| 15:22.03 | bhodder | yes, but I do not know which one? |
| 15:23.03 | en0x | talking about version or what? |
| 15:23.11 | en0x | the newer the better |
| 15:23.36 | bhodder | oh so the library is DotConf? |
| 15:24.17 | en0x | can;t u read?> |
| 15:24.21 | en0x | http://www.opentts.org/projects/dotconf here |
| 15:24.53 | bhodder | I miss read it i thought it was refering one of not just DotConf |
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| 15:25.13 | en0x | so get somebody who will read for you :S |
| 15:25.18 | en0x | smoke time |
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| 15:28.45 | en0x | hmm |
| 15:28.53 | en0x | somebody borked email app in 1.4.5 |
| 15:29.05 | en0x | it dont want to show me .jpg atachments |
| 15:29.05 | en0x | S |
| 15:29.06 | en0x | :S |
| 15:29.56 | en0x | what da fuck |
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| 15:51.41 | bhodder | ok I have reinstalled that library twice but still get the error :S |
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| 15:56.40 | bhodder | any one know hat to fix the following error: |
| 15:56.42 | bhodder | *** Required DotConf library missing! See INSTALL . |
| 15:56.53 | bhodder | I have already installed the library |
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| 16:18.37 | bhodder | hi? |
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| 16:35.17 | bhodder | hey |
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| 17:39.34 | palmpreuser1001 | Hello |
| 17:39.46 | palmpreuser1001 | Alive anyone? |
| 17:40.25 | bhodder | Ya still here |
| 17:40.52 | swisstomcat | yeah |
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| 17:41.44 | bhodder | any widk experts on? |
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| 18:07.43 | swisstomcat | still no luck? |
| 18:08.09 | bhodder | no luck :( |
| 18:08.27 | bhodder | cannot get past the missing dotconf library |
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| 18:09.36 | bhodder | iv reinstalled everything and followed the install file but cant get past that |
| 18:11.32 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 18:11.35 | swisstomcat | dotconf library |
| 18:11.41 | bhodder | ya |
| 18:11.58 | swisstomcat | what's the error? |
| 18:14.09 | bhodder | http://pastebin.ca/1916546 |
| 18:14.40 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 18:14.48 | swisstomcat | it's trying to build speechd |
| 18:16.37 | swisstomcat | i wonder why it's doing that |
| 18:17.17 | bhodder | not sure and that is where it stops |
| 18:19.48 | bhodder | trying another thing |
| 18:21.02 | bhodder | I extracted the PDK and now going to try make stage again |
| 18:22.43 | bhodder | no go |
| 18:22.45 | bhodder | :( |
| 18:24.00 | bhodder | In the pastebin, you see that it is failing right after it checks for -ldotconf and finds it to =no |
| 18:24.07 | swisstomcat | you need some people with widk experience |
| 18:24.31 | swisstomcat | can you check the directories it's trying to build |
| 18:24.38 | bhodder | This is usually where i would find them isnt it |
| 18:24.44 | swisstomcat | it seems it's compiling some of the projects |
| 18:24.53 | swisstomcat | you might be able to just leave them out |
| 18:25.08 | swisstomcat | speechd is a webos-internals project |
| 18:25.15 | swisstomcat | i wonder why it's in the widk |
| 18:25.25 | bhodder | in that case ya that is the directory its trying to build |
| 18:25.29 | swisstomcat | what else is in the same root directory as this speechd? |
| 18:25.52 | swisstomcat | /srv/preware/cross-compile/packages/apps |
| 18:26.08 | swisstomcat | can you try to move the dirs out that do not compile? |
| 18:29.27 | bhodder | here is why it wont build |
| 18:29.28 | bhodder | /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/speech-dispatcher': Permission denied |
| 18:30.03 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 18:30.26 | swisstomcat | yeah, but why would it try to even build that .. for what? |
| 18:30.36 | swisstomcat | you only want to do cross-compiling of your stuff |
| 18:30.45 | bhodder | not sure |
| 18:30.45 | swisstomcat | but i don't know the widk well enough |
| 18:31.23 | bhodder | What I did was compiled that separately and did it as sudo and it installed |
| 18:31.36 | bhodder | so now I am trying make stage again |
| 18:31.58 | bhodder | but speechd is an internals project? |
| 18:32.51 | swisstomcat | i think so |
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| 18:33.07 | swisstomcat | look at the path: packages/apps |
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| 18:34.29 | NaS | am I in the right room? |
| 18:35.29 | bhodder | still failed but i will see if i can remove it and then do make stage |
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| 18:35.44 | bhodder | what room are you looking for NaS ? |
| 18:36.49 | NaS | web internals! jst started testing kernals! is this the room for kernals too? |
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| 18:40.31 | bhodder | swisstomcat: apreantly build_apps/navit needs it |
| 18:41.01 | bhodder | isn't navit an internals project too? |
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| 18:44.44 | nn7 | anyone else getting "This application cannot run on your current operating system" when they try and install palm apps via preware? |
| 18:45.09 | bhodder | no not yet anyways |
| 18:46.08 | nn7 | I can't install anything |
| 18:47.59 | bhodder | swisstomcat: so both those are internals projects but that is also why it will not finish comipling the cross compiler |
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| 18:54.03 | bhodder | I am going to try to avoid building both those files |
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| 19:04.14 | bhodder | it does not like speechd at all :( |
| 19:15.26 | hape | ~seen dtzWill |
| 19:15.31 | infobot | dtzwill is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 15h 46m 47s, last said: 'Tibfib: pong'. |
| 19:15.44 | hape | dtzWill: Ping |
| 19:17.01 | bhodder | Can anyone tell me if i can get arround navit and speechd when installing widk |
| 19:17.33 | hape | bhodder: I do not get your question |
| 19:17.53 | hape | bhodder: do you what to compile navit by yourself? |
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| 19:18.59 | bhodder | no when I am tring to compile widk I get an error at speechd |
| 19:19.13 | bhodder | so I tried removing it but navit relies on it |
| 19:19.48 | hape | you can remove the dependancy in the navit makefile |
| 19:19.56 | bhodder | What I want to do is get widk installed on linux |
| 19:20.10 | hape | but I'm not sure if navit will compile then |
| 19:21.00 | hape | That should have been done if the make stage tries to compile speechd |
| 19:21.31 | hape | the make stage 'installs' the widk and then tries to compile all stuff that is there |
| 19:21.32 | bhodder | Thats my problem speechd is saying that i am missing dotconf libray even though i installed it |
| 19:21.49 | hape | but what error do you get in speechd? It sould work. |
| 19:22.01 | bhodder | It does till it gets to speechd then it fails at speechd |
| 19:22.27 | bhodder | checking for main in -ldotconf... no |
| 19:22.27 | bhodder | *** Required DotConf library missing! See INSTALL . |
| 19:22.27 | bhodder | make[3]: *** [build/armv7.built] Error 1 |
| 19:22.27 | bhodder | make[3]: Leaving directory `/srv/preware/cross-compile/packages/apps/speechd' |
| 19:22.27 | bhodder | make[2]: *** [build_apps/speechd] Error 2 |
| 19:23.09 | hape | did you try to install the DotConf that speechd is missing? |
| 19:24.10 | bhodder | I did i believe and it still gives me the error? |
| 19:25.13 | hape | hm, no idea at the moment. Try again here in 2-3 hours. Then the speclist should be waken up agin ;) |
| 19:25.30 | bhodder | ok |
| 19:25.53 | bhodder | do you know what DotConf speechd needs? |
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| 19:37.14 | nn7 | why can't I install any apps from the palm app store? |
| 19:37.44 | nn7 | says it cannot run on my current operating system |
| 19:37.59 | nn7 | is this because of the overclocked kernel? |
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| 19:49.45 | PuffTheMagic | log into your profile |
| 19:51.55 | Tman | is doctoring |
| 19:56.39 | bhodder | I have to go cu all |
| 19:59.28 | dtzWill | hape: pong. i'm tehtered via pre, so might drop out sorry, just a warning. what's up? |
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| 20:02.35 | nn7 | PuffTheMagic: was that directed at me? |
| 20:02.45 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 20:03.49 | nn7 | k |
| 20:04.41 | nn7 | ok, did that |
| 20:08.40 | nn7 | :/ |
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| 20:14.19 | cryptk | hola |
| 20:21.08 | nn7 | PuffTheMagic: any other suggestions? |
| 20:21.27 | PuffTheMagic | run first use? |
| 20:26.24 | nn7 | ug I can't install any apps |
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| 20:27.03 | dtzWill | nn7: i might have missed this, but are you trying to install 1.4.5 apps on < 1.4.5? |
| 20:27.35 | nn7 | looks like I'm version 1.4.1.1 |
| 20:27.42 | nn7 | how can I get the newest version? |
| 20:28.03 | dtzWill | if your carrier has it, update, but if not you're out of luck unfortunately |
| 20:28.19 | dtzWill | you probably would know by now if your carrier had it |
| 20:28.23 | dtzWill | :/, sorry |
| 20:28.44 | nn7 | damn you carrier and your never ending attempts to thwart my happiness |
| 20:28.55 | nn7 | ok, well, that explains it |
| 20:29.50 | nn7 | ahh.. found a thread on the verizon wireless forums complaining about it |
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| 20:33.38 | misterikkit | Hello, I have a patch that I can't update or remove through preware now that I'm running 1.4.5 sprint 2.5 (org.webosinternals.patches.screen-lock-no-auto-off-while-charging) and my pre hasn't been rooted. Is there a way to remove it? |
| 20:34.00 | misterikkit | the IPKG log says Unreversed patch detected |
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| 20:37.22 | cryptk | there is some other patch that is touching the same file |
| 20:37.34 | cryptk | some patches need to be installed/removed in certain orders |
| 20:37.37 | halfhalo | Touchtouchtouch |
| 20:37.56 | misterikkit | umm, I wouldn't know |
| 20:38.10 | misterikkit | I can do the other patches one by one, but "update all" tries this one first. |
| 20:38.41 | misterikkit | I don't want to run EPR because it would be a pain to go through the list and reinstall each patch |
| 20:40.33 | misterikkit | is updating the rest of his patches one by one |
| 20:42.52 | cryptk | update the saved packages list first |
| 20:42.57 | cryptk | then run EPR |
| 20:43.03 | cryptk | then go into saved packages list and restore |
| 20:45.58 | misterikkit | woah, that is a handy feature |
| 20:46.22 | cryptk | been there for a while |
| 20:46.32 | misterikkit | I don't pay attention. (= |
| 20:46.46 | misterikkit | does it save the list to a text file in the usb partition? |
| 20:47.23 | cryptk | not sure, but the save/restore app can back it up |
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| 20:47.53 | misterikkit | sweet |
| 20:51.10 | egaudet | http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/253860-attention-patches-must-removed-prior-ota-update.html |
| 20:53.41 | misterikkit | egaudet: Thanks! |
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| 20:56.28 | cryptk | yeah, there are a few patches that don't play nice |
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| 20:58.27 | bsm | Hi, I just updated to recent govnah from testing feed, now I see two new options, temp limit and temp reset. default for temp limit is 55, temp reset is 50. what happens at those? |
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| 21:34.41 | Mousey | 1.4.5 is kinda faster |
| 21:38.48 | hape | dtzWill: Saw that gameboyadvance is on the way to the app catalog as paid app. Was there any Problems? Dose this fit with the GPL? |
| 21:39.22 | hape | dtzWill: I ask with Navit in the mind. Would perhpas be an idea to to get some mony back to the Navit team |
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| 21:52.02 | dtzWill | hape: legally you can sell GPL code just fine--you ust have to make the source available. IANAL but hosting it in the git repo should satisfy that nicely |
| 21:52.29 | dtzWill | hape: morally, contributing to those who wrote it might be a nice step. |
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| 21:56.10 | Decimate | hi everyone :) |
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| 22:00.36 | dtzWill | okay battery dying, ttyl :) |
| 22:01.07 | hape | dtzWill: thanks, by |
| 22:02.33 | Decimate | i havent been in this irc channel in forever. |
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| 22:16.05 | quotemstr1 | How is 1.4.5 stability-wise? |
| 22:16.13 | quotemstr1 | I'm still running 1.4.0. |
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| 22:22.51 | quotemstr1 | (And it's about as stable as a drunkard driving a New York City ferry.) |
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| 22:32.41 | cryptk | I am on 1.4.5 with warthog and it seems fine |
| 22:35.35 | quotemstr1 | Warthog? |
| 22:43.01 | cryptk | OC Kernel |
| 22:43.20 | cryptk | the aftermarket kernels have alot of optimizations (at least the WOSI ones do) |
| 22:43.35 | quotemstr1 | Ah, I see. |
| 22:43.37 | quotemstr1 | Nifty. |
| 22:43.50 | cryptk | if you want to get into it I would start with UberKernel |
| 22:43.52 | quotemstr1 | I'm trying to decide whether to replace my damaged Pre or to switch to Android. :-P |
| 22:43.54 | cryptk | it is the most stable |
| 22:44.06 | cryptk | all of the others are experimental where we are trying new things |
| 22:44.20 | quotemstr1 | Hrm. I should give it a shot. |
| 22:45.47 | cryptk | installable through preware |
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| 23:07.33 | Decimate | after having an evo for some time...ive determined webos needs widgets |
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| 23:12.02 | cryptk | I was talking about that the other day |
| 23:12.05 | jhojho | http://jquerymobile.com/2010/08/announcing-the-jquery-mobile-project/ |
| 23:12.39 | cryptk | well, something similar... interactive wallpapers |
| 23:13.00 | cryptk | basically draw icons on the wallpaper and have a custom service to intercept taps to know if you tapped one |
| 23:15.29 | SineOt | they use the Pixi as their example phone <3 |
| 23:19.38 | jhojho | yeah. that was interesting |
| 23:19.44 | jhojho | probably because palm is sponsoring it |
| 23:21.29 | SineOt | even then, if Palm was sponsoring I'm surprised they didn't use a Pre (which is a lot more iconic than the Pixi) |
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| 23:23.36 | jhojho | ~seen chrisa |
| 23:23.40 | infobot | chrisa is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 22h 38m 4s, last said: 'I preferred when we had it be the droid animation'. |
| 23:26.24 | jhojho | http://jquerymobile.com/designs/ |
| 23:26.27 | geist | that pesky chrisa |
| 23:26.37 | jhojho | unfortunately, these all look iphone/ipad centric |
| 23:26.41 | jhojho | geist: =) |
| 23:27.36 | SineOt | yeah, but I won't argue that they at least look good ;p |
| 23:27.39 | jhojho | ~seen chuqui |
| 23:27.39 | infobot | chuqui <~chuqui@palm-64-28-152-131.palm.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 6h 54m 14s ago, saying: 'hello!'. |
| 23:30.28 | chrisA | hmmm? |
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| 23:43.32 | geist | chrisA: you were momentarily needed |
| 23:43.49 | chrisA | whew, I'm glad that passed |
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| 23:56.47 | jhojho | lol |
| 23:57.16 | jhojho | im not saying that chrisa is dead to me now that the moment has passed |