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| 00:11.18 | halfhalo | just edit it |
| 00:11.20 | halfhalo | it works |
| 00:13.29 | mandaman2k | the meta-doctor_ |
| 00:13.31 | mandaman2k | ? |
| 00:14.01 | halfhalo | yeah, just change the last version to 1.4.5 for sprint |
| 00:15.04 | mandaman2k | halfhalo: did you just edit the makefile? or the whole git project? |
| 00:15.13 | halfhalo | just the makefile |
| 00:15.24 | mandaman2k | ok, nice |
| 00:15.46 | mandaman2k | i'll do the same, does it work fine? |
| 00:19.21 | rwhitby | mandaman2k: git pull again |
| 00:19.40 | mandaman2k | perfect, thanks a lot |
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| 00:28.45 | mandaman2k | rwhitby: thanks a lot for all your help, you've helped a lot this past week, just one more little question BYPASS_ACTIVATION, lets me jump the bluescreen it comes up once the doctor finishes? |
| 00:29.11 | mandaman2k | or is it better to use ENABLE_DEVELOPER_MODE |
| 00:29.27 | mandaman2k | sorry, BYPASS_FIRST_USE_APP |
| 00:31.32 | rwhitby | if you want to use the cellular function on your phone, don't use bypass activation, use bypass first use app |
| 00:32.04 | rwhitby | BTW, does the documentation in the Makefile not make that clear? How would you reword the existing documentation so that you didn't have to ask this question? |
| 00:33.49 | mandaman2k | no no, i think it's very nice detailed, its just that english is my second language |
| 00:34.29 | mandaman2k | but if you want my opinion, let me read it again |
| 00:40.51 | mandaman2k | is the webos-patches.log the file i need to save, so after the doctor it restores my patches |
| 00:50.26 | oil | egaudet: you're welcome :) |
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| 00:53.17 | jeffgus | anyone notice that the update 1.4.5 has some sort of "carrier hotspot" logic? what is that? |
| 01:11.20 | PuffTheMagic | haha |
| 01:11.26 | PuffTheMagic | they are using a Pre on Bones right now |
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| 01:16.32 | rwhitby | Hmm - my last Sprint Pre isn't noticing there's a 1.4.5 updtae |
| 01:16.36 | Kyusaku | too bad Bones is terrible |
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| 01:19.37 | halfhalo_pre | ? |
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| 01:34.31 | raeb | holy potatoes |
| 01:34.42 | raeb | wirc 1.4.5 ftw |
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| 01:35.21 | oil | srsly |
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| 01:36.44 | raeb | nice work ptm et al |
| 01:40.15 | raeb | now.. what about a pdk terminal app |
| 01:40.26 | oil | there is one |
| 01:40.39 | oil | that hasn't been worked on in a while |
| 01:40.43 | oil | PuffTheMagic ^ |
| 01:40.46 | oil | :) |
| 01:40.50 | raeb | I sesrched for term,found some oldes |
| 01:40.59 | oil | terminal app + plugin still works great |
| 01:41.06 | oil | idk if its one package yet or not |
| 01:41.14 | oil | the other is called terminus |
| 01:41.17 | raeb | looks like it |
| 01:41.48 | oil | imho, terminalapp+plugin > terminus |
| 01:42.07 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 01:42.08 | oil | terminus has some better stuff, but i think it lacks in other important areas |
| 01:42.16 | PuffTheMagic | i couldnt get destinal to help me on terminus |
| 01:42.36 | PuffTheMagic | or any of the other term experts |
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| 01:52.14 | simonsez787 | i need help with F105 |
| 01:52.42 | simonsez787 | i try to install on web os install and it says web os not compatable |
| 01:53.39 | rwhitby | use Preware. |
| 01:54.07 | simonsez787 | for f105 thunderchief |
| 01:54.12 | simonsez787 | ? |
| 01:54.12 | simonsez787 | how? |
| 01:54.30 | Kyusaku | it's in preware |
| 01:54.50 | simonsez787 | when i look up kernels i only get uberkernel at 800MHZ |
| 01:54.51 | Kyusaku | other applications>kernels |
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| 01:55.58 | CTLAdvance | is thunder 1.4.5 compatable yet |
| 01:56.29 | simonsez787 | so far not for me on web os install but in preware i only see Uberkernal at 800MHZ |
| 01:56.52 | rwhitby | simonsez787: which instructions are you following? |
| 01:56.59 | simonsez787 | and on precentral someone said Uberkernel can go 1GHZ now? ideas? |
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| 01:57.14 | rwhitby | ~testing-feed |
| 01:57.15 | infobot | hmm... testing-feed is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds |
| 01:57.50 | CTLAdvance | yeah thats why he doesnt see it |
| 01:58.55 | simonsez787 | oh i have to add it to the feeds? |
| 01:58.56 | CTLAdvance | testing feed should be added to the manage feeds list |
| 01:58.58 | simonsez787 | thats prolly why |
| 01:59.46 | halfhalo_pre | whatever I have is at 1ghz on 1.4.5 |
| 02:00.52 | simonsez787 | anyone know about the animated backgrounds not being compatable? |
| 02:01.20 | simonsez787 | newb here, obviously, but seems to give me errors |
| 02:02.28 | rwhitby | what's it say on the homepage thread for it? |
| 02:03.00 | simonsez787 | what do you mean? i'm talking via preware |
| 02:03.38 | rwhitby | yep. each patch has a pointer to the homepage thread for it |
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| 02:04.33 | simonsez787 | forums.precentral.net |
| 02:06.48 | Kyusaku | it's a link, tap it |
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| 02:07.20 | rwhitby | wonders how we can make that more obvious |
| 02:08.19 | halfhalo_pre | marquee |
| 02:09.58 | Kyusaku | Gameloft is gonna clean up on the contest |
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| 02:36.31 | bhuey | is the 1.4.5 feed fixed yet ? |
| 02:36.51 | oil | whats wrong with 145 feed? |
| 02:37.13 | bhuey | I was told that the uberkernel selected is the wrong version because that feed is down |
| 02:37.22 | oil | oh, i have no idea |
| 02:37.28 | oil | rwhitby: ^? |
| 02:38.13 | rwhitby | bhuey: you were told wrong |
| 02:38.39 | rwhitby | people using the testing feeds properly have no problems |
| 02:38.42 | rwhitby | ~testing-feed |
| 02:38.43 | infobot | i guess testing-feed is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds |
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| 02:58.03 | bhuey | rwhitby: got it, something was wrong with the preware feed setup |
| 02:58.12 | bhuey | had to go in and delete some bits |
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| 03:22.45 | satterwc | general question: if I decide to upgrade to 1.4.5, should I remove preware patches and kernal first, upgrade, and reinstall? |
| 03:22.53 | rwhitby | no |
| 03:23.15 | satterwc | so it should upgrade fine with all in place? |
| 03:23.43 | rwhitby | which threads on PreCentral have you read on the subject so far, and which tweets from @webosinternals have you seen on the topic? |
| 03:23.56 | satterwc | >.> |
| 03:23.59 | satterwc | <.< |
| 03:24.01 | satterwc | fail |
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| 03:24.06 | CardShark | I'm amazed at the sheer number of people that ask that question, with all of the notes, messages, posts, tweets, etc. with the exact answer.... Does nobody just READ anymore? |
| 03:24.30 | CardShark | nobody=anybody |
| 03:24.46 | satterwc | not really a matter of not readong.. not knowing where to read.. sorry.. not in the pre dev circle |
| 03:24.58 | Tibfib | satterwc: just check out precentral.net |
| 03:24.59 | CardShark | Me neither, but here we are. :) |
| 03:25.07 | Tibfib | should give you the info you need :) |
| 03:25.25 | satterwc | ok.. I'll check the forums at precentral.. sorry for bugging you |
| 03:25.33 | Tibfib | front page will do |
| 03:25.48 | rwhitby | satterwc: in general, you can leave patches on |
| 03:26.00 | rwhitby | satterwc: but there is a list of ones which you need to take off |
| 03:26.19 | rwhitby | satterwc: and kernels from WebOS Internals installed using preware are also fine to leave on |
| 03:26.39 | satterwc | ok.. I'll check it out.. thanks for the guidance |
| 03:27.01 | satterwc | laters |
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| 03:27.26 | basotl | I just wrote a blog post talking about Preware. Recently got and having a repo to mod it to my hearts content easily is greatly appreciated. |
| 03:27.40 | summatusmentis | is there a reason webos doesn't have a centralized blog area? |
| 03:27.58 | summatusmentis | even if it just consisted of "look at this precentral thread"? |
| 03:28.59 | Tibfib | precentral.net? |
| 03:29.37 | summatusmentis | different organization, yes? |
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| 03:33.36 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: @webosinternals on twitter |
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| 03:35.37 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: already following |
| 03:35.57 | summatusmentis | I just get the sense that people don't necessarily go to twitter for tech help |
| 03:36.13 | summatusmentis | which is why I wondered about a blog |
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| 03:37.37 | rwhitby | we have twitter, a wiki and a forum. why do we need something in addition to that? |
| 03:38.11 | rwhitby | forum for interactive, twitter for permanent info, twitter for time-sensitive info |
| 03:38.29 | rwhitby | s/twitter for permanent/wiki for permanent/ |
| 03:39.01 | summatusmentis | need is maybe strong. For casual users who don't follow pre dev on a regular basis, but care about things like software updates, maybe something in addition makes sense |
| 03:39.42 | summatusmentis | I'm just throwing out ideas, this is in no way "FIX IT NOW" |
| 03:39.47 | rwhitby | sure |
| 03:40.28 | rwhitby | how does a blog differ from an RSS feed of a twitter stream? |
| 03:40.35 | rwhitby | (apart from the number of words) |
| 03:40.46 | summatusmentis | functionally, it shouldn't |
| 03:40.50 | summatusmentis | except maybe in mindshare |
| 03:41.13 | summatusmentis | I know when I'm looking for answers to tech questions, my first thought isn't "oh, I'll check twitter" |
| 03:41.17 | rwhitby | mindshare? |
| 03:41.32 | rwhitby | you don't check blogs for tech answers either. |
| 03:41.38 | summatusmentis | people associate blogs with "official" announcements, etc. |
| 03:41.42 | rwhitby | you look at program documentation on wikis |
| 03:41.55 | summatusmentis | people associate twitter with "that weird social network" |
| 03:42.01 | rwhitby | that's quite a generalisation you're making there |
| 03:42.08 | summatusmentis | yes, it is |
| 03:42.22 | rwhitby | one could make the same observation about usenet |
| 03:42.24 | summatusmentis | I'm not articulating my point very well |
| 03:42.33 | rwhitby | we should use a newsgroup for everything. |
| 03:42.45 | rwhitby | not that "weird blog thing" |
| 03:42.54 | summatusmentis | many organizations still consider mailing lists a valid way of conducting business |
| 03:43.07 | rwhitby | indeed. |
| 03:43.11 | basotl | Following on twitter now because I use the weird social network. |
| 03:43.20 | rwhitby | we have two mailing lists. no-one joined. |
| 03:44.21 | oil | lol |
| 03:44.29 | summatusmentis | I think if I were a casual user of preware who liked the outcomes, but didn't care that much about the day to day development, etc., I would try a website by that domain first |
| 03:44.54 | rwhitby | you get notifications of software updates in preware itself |
| 03:44.58 | summatusmentis | given that this is currently the wiki, which isn't currently used as an announcement forum, I'd then probably start googling |
| 03:45.10 | rwhitby | that's like saying that debian users look at the aptitude changelog to find out if emacs has been updated |
| 03:46.13 | summatusmentis | no, it's more like saying that iphone jailbreak users check whatever sites jailbreaking happens on for updates to see if their new iOS update can be jailbroken |
| 03:46.51 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: I'm on your side - I'd love to have an announcement mailing list and conduct all business there. The facts are that no-one subscribed. Ergo, mailing lists are dead as a means of communication for this particular market segment. |
| 03:47.14 | summatusmentis | right, I'm not really advocating mailing lists :) |
| 03:47.35 | rwhitby | and a blog post is no different from a forum post |
| 03:47.49 | summatusmentis | it is only in terms of visibility |
| 03:48.10 | rwhitby | ah, but that's something different |
| 03:48.36 | rwhitby | if we had an RSS feed of the WebOS Internals forum posts on the front page of webos-internals.org, it would be identical to a blog on the front page. |
| 03:48.58 | summatusmentis | there's still a signal to noise ratio thing |
| 03:48.59 | rwhitby | it's the act of publishing the information on the web site, not whether it comes from a forum or a twitter feed RSS or a blog |
| 03:49.38 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: we also have a facebook page, BTW. |
| 03:50.03 | halfhalo | Ewww, facebookâ¦. oh, wait |
| 03:50.44 | summatusmentis | I'm not claiming that the current information provided is insufficient, I'm more wondering about the way it's provided |
| 03:51.01 | summatusmentis | or maybe the medium's by which it's provided |
| 03:51.29 | rwhitby | the current information provided is always insufficient, cause the second-tier of advanced users have not organised themselves into a conduit of information to the lower tiers |
| 03:52.17 | rwhitby | doesn't matter whether it's a blog or a forum, you won't get a different stream of information just cause it's a blog or a forum or a twitter feed |
| 03:53.01 | rwhitby | blogs are too one-way anyway. almost as bad a PreCentral front-page articles, cause they are out of date the day after they are published |
| 03:53.19 | summatusmentis | that may be true, I came back after a long time not following this whole community, so maybe I'm the one guy gesticulating wildly in the corner that no one ought to pay attention to |
| 03:53.31 | rwhitby | and if you're going to keep it up to date, then it should be a wiki page, so that multiple people can share in keeping it up to date |
| 03:53.57 | summatusmentis | well, the thing about front-page articles and blogs is that they're front-page |
| 03:54.23 | rwhitby | yep, we have front page wiki articles too. no-one keeps them up to date either. why would a blog be any different? |
| 03:54.34 | summatusmentis | it may not be |
| 03:54.41 | oil | wirc has been the featured article since 0.0.4 when we released it, HAHA |
| 03:55.14 | rwhitby | oil: exactly. until there is someone who takes the responsibility of keeping the front-page of the web site current, it matters not one bit what format the information might be in. |
| 03:55.28 | summatusmentis | alright, that's a fair point |
| 03:55.49 | oil | lol |
| 03:55.51 | rwhitby | now, if there was a person who stepped up to do that job, then they could choose whatever format worked best for them |
| 03:55.57 | summatusmentis | sure |
| 03:56.00 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: are you vounteering? |
| 03:56.03 | oil | haha |
| 03:56.16 | oil | that question seems so innocent :) |
| 03:56.29 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: as of now? no. But that's because a) I don't have a device b) I'm re-new to this community |
| 03:56.54 | summatusmentis | which puts me in a position to decidedly not be knowledgeable about it all |
| 03:58.44 | summatusmentis | that said, maybe at some point in the future |
| 03:59.45 | summatusmentis | I don't mean to re-hash over old wounds, or whatever. Mostly a curiosity, and I tend to think in "better to bring it up than ignore it" terms |
| 03:59.54 | dtzWill | rwhitby: have a second for autobuilder help? |
| 04:00.29 | rwhitby | summatusmentis: sure. in general, in a meritocracy, the person who does the work gets to decide what form the output of the work should take |
| 04:00.57 | rwhitby | dtzWill: just about to get lunch, but shoot. |
| 04:00.59 | summatusmentis | sure. I wasn't sure how centralized things were/are |
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| 04:01.41 | dtzWill | rwhitby: well I'm trying to put somethign into the testing feed, and i'm not sure what's wrong. looking at the logs where i normally look, mason hasn't been run since april...so i think i'm just missing somethign :) |
| 04:01.42 | rwhitby | well, there's one guy who keeps the facebook pages up to date with all announcements ... |
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| 04:01.55 | rwhitby | dtzWill: autobuilder is tinker |
| 04:02.34 | dtzWill | rwhitby: oh I see. okay so i'll give it a bit and see if it builds it :) |
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| 04:02.39 | dtzWill | rwhitby: thanks, enjoy your lunch |
| 04:03.28 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: I don't mean to keep you from lunch, I should sleep anyway, but now you've got me intrigued. Lemmen think on this idea of "purveyor of information" role |
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| 04:07.37 | chrisA | Whosits to the whatsits now? |
| 04:07.56 | halfhalo | you |
| 04:08.59 | chrisA | Conflict of interests |
| 04:09.38 | halfhalo | attempt two at a redmine thin nginx grack clean ubuntu install |
| 04:09.55 | halfhalo | attempt one didn't work out so well, not after the fatalities |
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| 04:11.36 | halfhalo | those damn kids⦠if only they listened... |
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| 04:21.02 | torchie | dtzWill ? |
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| 04:21.47 | dtzWill | torchie: hi :) |
| 04:22.22 | torchie | sprint finally got 1.4.5 :D |
| 04:22.37 | dtzWill | torchie: yes! they did. |
| 04:22.43 | torchie | today I found there are some troubles with visualboyadvance on 1.4.5, though? |
| 04:22.52 | dtzWill | torchie: what version are you running? 1.1.2? |
| 04:23.05 | torchie | yes |
| 04:23.38 | dtzWill | torchie: yes it's broken on 1.4.5. If you're willing to test, add the testing feeds and grab VBA from there--should work a treat... 1.4.5 support along with a number of improvements :) |
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| 04:23.50 | torchie | testing feeds? |
| 04:25.11 | torchie | how would I go about adding the testing feed? |
| 04:26.33 | torchie | ah found it |
| 04:27.56 | Tibfib | dtzWill: oh is it in the testing feed now? |
| 04:28.09 | Tibfib | guess I haven't launched preware today |
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| 04:30.03 | torchie | "webos internals testing" - 2 feeds? |
| 04:30.17 | torchie | ah found it |
| 04:30.24 | m0ngr31 | hey, i've got a question if there are any webos experts out there |
| 04:30.24 | oil_pre | all and arm7 |
| 04:30.29 | dtzWill | Tibfib: just added it... 10 minutes ago :). |
| 04:30.34 | torchie | SWIPE TO RETURN TO ROM SELECTOR WHILE PLAYING |
| 04:30.48 | torchie | implodes. |
| 04:30.51 | dtzWill | Tibfib: was actually going to bug you once i confirmed it was up so you could help test :) |
| 04:30.54 | dtzWill | torchie: haha :D |
| 04:30.58 | Tibfib | dtzWill: nice, the beta i got a couple weeks ago was really slick. |
| 04:31.09 | Tibfib | hah |
| 04:31.16 | dtzWill | Tibfib: glad you think so, this should be even better :). ...hopefully :) |
| 04:31.34 | Tibfib | the sound was 100x better |
| 04:31.35 | torchie | :O portrait selector! |
| 04:31.37 | Tibfib | did you change it? |
| 04:31.57 | oil_pre | lol |
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| 04:32.07 | Tibfib | well I assume you did... lol |
| 04:32.12 | m0ngr31 | does anyone know if it would be possible to port aircrack-ng to webos? would the wifi card in the pre even be able to handle injection/monitoring? |
| 04:32.36 | dtzWill | Tibfib: change it? yes. migrates saves properly, a few rendering optimizations that make things a big faster, etc :) |
| 04:32.58 | torchie | does it save state when you back to selector? |
| 04:33.05 | Tibfib | it seems like a huge improvement... didn't get choppy sound at all. |
| 04:33.08 | dtzWill | torchie: if you have autosave state enabled |
| 04:33.12 | dtzWill | Tibfib: that's good to hear :D |
| 04:33.15 | torchie | fantasmical! |
| 04:33.47 | kernelsandirs | anyone know about how the iphone spoof patch does not affect the ggogle maps app |
| 04:33.53 | torchie | great update :) |
| 04:34.35 | Tibfib | plus it's more stable than before. every once in a while minimizing vba would freeze it. doesn't happen as much anymore |
| 04:34.37 | oil_pre | will have to reinstall virtualboy |
| 04:35.04 | halfhalo | haha |
| 04:35.12 | torchie | just happened to me :o |
| 04:35.20 | torchie | it's never happened to me before |
| 04:35.22 | dtzWill | Tibfib: yes I worked on that. unfortunately i think it still can happen. it's a silly race in what happens when things pause. it's on my todo list :) |
| 04:36.01 | dtzWill | good news is that FIRST thing it does when paused is save so hopefully nothing's lost other than an annoyance |
| 04:36.10 | Tman | ok, so how do I use meta-doctor to back up my entire pre? |
| 04:36.14 | torchie | glorious |
| 04:36.21 | oil_pre | it would kill in pkdhotapps |
| 04:36.51 | Tibfib | yes it would |
| 04:37.01 | halfhalo | I heard kill..... |
| 04:38.10 | Tman | maybe I should google it :p |
| 04:38.43 | kernelsandirs | apparently people that have the iphone spoof cannot pan in my app(bfgmaps) and was wondering if anyone knows how to make the spoof not affect a particular app? |
| 04:38.46 | dtzWill | oil_pre: you mean vba? yeah it should be compatible now.. took no small amount of effort, heh |
| 04:39.36 | oil_pre | and since it can still read from usb it doesn't need fstab fixed |
| 04:39.50 | oil_pre | just will need to savegame to appdir |
| 04:39.53 | Tibfib | dtzWill: going to submit it? |
| 04:40.05 | Tibfib | I hope you do and would gladly pay for it |
| 04:40.14 | Tibfib | and I...hah |
| 04:40.27 | dtzWill | Tibfib: ty, and your guys' support is wonderful. |
| 04:40.42 | dtzWill | biggest reason for not charging is i'm conflicted about 'burning' those who've donated. |
| 04:41.05 | Tibfib | How would you burn them? |
| 04:41.22 | Tibfib | oh, if you charged. got it |
| 04:41.22 | dtzWill | Tibfib: charging in catalog, i mean. |
| 04:41.39 | oil_pre | with wirc we plan cheap in catalog,and still free in preware |
| 04:41.49 | dtzWill | oil_pre: yeah that seems the best to me |
| 04:41.49 | Tibfib | dtzWill: they could still get it free in preware |
| 04:42.16 | dtzWill | yep yep |
| 04:42.16 | oil_pre | it sems to work ok for drpodder |
| 04:42.36 | oil_pre | I paid,but stil get it from preware |
| 04:42.51 | oil_pre | cause I think it's great |
| 04:42.57 | dtzWill | oil_pre: heh yeah. <3 preware updating. |
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| 04:43.02 | dtzWill | (i did the same) |
| 04:43.14 | kernelsandirs | yeah myq also does that |
| 04:43.44 | Tibfib | hmmm, I can't get the testing feeds to work |
| 04:43.55 | oil_pre | :( |
| 04:44.01 | dtzWill | Tibfib, torchie, anyone else: does VBA seem to be ready to move over? (i've been testing for a few days now, wondering if anyone else has issues/comments) |
| 04:44.04 | dtzWill | Tibfib: :( |
| 04:44.17 | torchie | intensely so! |
| 04:44.17 | Tibfib | dtzWill: got link for ipk? preware feeds? |
| 04:44.33 | rwhitby | Tman: "make backup" |
| 04:44.40 | Tibfib | dtzWill: version I had a couple weeks ago was good enough for public |
| 04:44.46 | torchie | are you considering the Catalog? |
| 04:44.57 | Tibfib | OH, ready for catalog? |
| 04:45.04 | rwhitby | kernelsandirs: I believe it changes the user agent, so probably cannot be done on an app basis. tell them not to use that patch :) |
| 04:45.20 | torchie | the only issue I see is GBA speed really |
| 04:45.21 | dtzWill | maybe? i'm thinking better sooner than later and I can push updates if there are issues. |
| 04:45.46 | Tibfib | dtzWill: let me run latest verison and I'll give you feedback :) |
| 04:45.49 | oil_pre | 100k would go a long way to helping it speed up :) |
| 04:45.57 | torchie | like if you call it visualboyadvance, and you put it in the catalog, and joe schmo ranks you down because he has a hard time running Chain of Memories |
| 04:46.22 | Tman | rwhitby: thanks |
| 04:46.57 | rwhitby | dtzWill: I wonder if you could do some sort of "approved apps" think like classic does |
| 04:47.28 | kernelsandirs | rwhitbv: thx thought of that but wanted it to work for all :-) |
| 04:47.29 | rwhitby | "This ROM has not be qualified to run correctly - you may experience problems, but don't give a bad review." |
| 04:47.48 | Tibfib | that's not a bad idea |
| 04:47.54 | dtzWill | oil_pre: LOL 100k. hahaha |
| 04:48.09 | oil_pre | lol |
| 04:48.14 | dtzWill | lots of good ideas, /me reads |
| 04:48.25 | oil_pre | the free section has like 10 apps |
| 04:48.35 | oil_pre | last place is still 10k haha |
| 04:48.45 | rwhitby | oil_pre: it will be filled up with iphone game trial versions soon |
| 04:48.56 | dtzWill | rwhitby: lol and display that for all gba games? O:) |
| 04:49.13 | Tibfib | fire emblem runs well |
| 04:49.38 | Tibfib | start page barely stutters... running normal kernel too |
| 04:49.51 | Tibfib | okay, take that back. it stutters a little :) |
| 04:50.00 | Tman | rwhitby: um so I'm trying to install novacom on my 64-bit ubuntu install, but the package palm has is for i386.. can I try to force the install or should I go a different route? |
| 04:50.19 | dtzWill | Tibfib: haha, yeah... but on 800 most things run well. and with autoframeskip (not enabled in present builds, but I plan to add it soon) you can make many games more playable |
| 04:50.32 | Tibfib | dtzWill: is there a help or preferences page? |
| 04:50.41 | dtzWill | since 85% emulation makes for choppy sound, but autoframeksip that by skipping every 1/10th frame and you're golden |
| 04:50.47 | rwhitby | Tman: dunno |
| 04:50.55 | dtzWill | Tibfib: there is not. something I had wnated to do before cat submission was that, but that'll tkae ...time. :/ |
| 04:51.08 | Tibfib | Tman: I think palm says to force |
| 04:51.16 | rwhitby | dtzWill: "This ROM requires you to run the UberKernel at 1GHz" |
| 04:51.22 | dtzWill | rwhitby: rofl |
| 04:51.37 | Tibfib | dtzWill: got a version with frame skip enabled? I'll test with my palm kernel |
| 04:51.47 | Tman | k |
| 04:51.57 | rwhitby | they allowed James to refer to a patch in the GPS fix app, so why not referring to Uber1G in VBA ? |
| 04:51.59 | dtzWill | Tibfib: i'll get you one soon. |
| 04:53.36 | dtzWill | well i'm not sure vba would be popular enough? might be better off charging a small amount instead of banking on hot apps. think i'll get swamped to heck with iphone ports as rwhitby mentioned |
| 04:53.52 | Tibfib | I concur. |
| 04:54.07 | kernelsandirs | wish I could see vba on pixi :-) |
| 04:54.32 | dtzWill | kernelsandirs: given 1.4.5's gl support, it might work. i haven't tried it, might just need to recompile for it. |
| 04:54.49 | torchie | can pixi at least do GBC? |
| 04:54.53 | rwhitby | kernelsandirs: does BFGmaps use any PDK or hybrid stuff, or is it all HTML5 stuff? |
| 04:55.06 | Tibfib | I think it's all mojo |
| 04:55.08 | rwhitby | hasn't done any spelunking in it yet |
| 04:55.30 | kernelsandirs | rwhitbv: all html5 |
| 04:55.50 | Tibfib | kernelsandirs: are you dev? |
| 04:56.11 | kernelsandirs | dtzWill: give it a try pleeeeez :-) |
| 04:56.35 | kernelsandirs | Tibfib: I am bfgmaps dev |
| 04:56.47 | Tibfib | then I probably shouldn't answer your questions :) |
| 04:56.52 | rwhitby | kernelsandirs: have you considered changing it to be an SDL app to win the hot pdk apps contest? |
| 04:57.01 | rwhitby | cause I reckon you'd have a good chance |
| 04:57.40 | rwhitby | kernelsandirs: does the BFG stand for anything? Big F Gun ? |
| 04:57.47 | kernelsandirs | rwhitbv: do you know if it is easy to port from html5 to pdk? |
| 04:58.02 | rwhitby | kernelsandirs: I expect it's incredibly difficult :) |
| 04:58.25 | kernelsandirs | bfg originally meant better f#cking google maps :-) |
| 04:58.51 | rwhitby | of course :) |
| 04:59.33 | rwhitby | hmm - this third Sprint device of mine just doesn't want to get an update notification |
| 05:00.06 | halfhalo | mine doesn't either |
| 05:00.31 | Tman | updates? fantastic |
| 05:01.06 | halfhalo | i hate you ubuntu |
| 05:01.18 | Tman | too bad I may be sending my pre in soon :[ |
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| 05:06.00 | halfhalo | All I want to do is install ruby 1.9.1. should be simple since its in the repoâ¦. but noooo. ubuntu installs the executable to ruby1.9.1 instead of ruby so _nothing_ works with it |
| 05:07.25 | halfhalo | WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO COMPUTERS |
| 05:07.40 | halfhalo | cries in a corner |
| 05:09.19 | oil_pre | lol |
| 05:09.42 | halfhalo | SOURCE TIME |
| 05:09.56 | egaudet | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.23 | halfhalo | yes, those ____ are really something arn't they |
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| 05:15.20 | halfhalo | being root while making it. BECAUSE I LIKE TO LIVE ON THE EDGE |
| 05:20.17 | Tman | two VMs running and my mbp is swapping like a champ.. 8G of memory is looking nice right now |
| 05:20.39 | halfhalo | lol, I have 2Gb in my mini and am running a vm |
| 05:20.51 | halfhalo | but ssd |
| 05:20.59 | Tman | nice |
| 05:21.19 | Tman | SSD... one day |
| 05:21.26 | halfhalo | cheaper than ram! |
| 05:21.59 | Tman | sure, by the byte |
| 05:22.32 | Tman | but I can't put a small SSD in my only currently functional computer and expect it to hold everything I need |
| 05:22.40 | halfhalo | nah, its like 200ish for a 80GB ssd, but two 4GB DDR3 modules is like 400 |
| 05:22.50 | halfhalo | how big is your current drive? |
| 05:22.57 | Tman | 500G |
| 05:23.02 | Tman | and I'm using 450 |
| 05:23.05 | Tman | 350* |
| 05:23.14 | halfhalo | get the seagate momentus hybrid |
| 05:23.20 | halfhalo | should help a little |
| 05:23.23 | Tman | WHAT |
| 05:23.33 | Tman | a -hybrid- drive? |
| 05:23.33 | halfhalo | 500GB but with 4GB NAND |
| 05:24.02 | halfhalo | Heh, in my main laptop I have a 60GB SSD plus a 500GB WD Scorpio Blue |
| 05:24.53 | Tman | hmm, I'm intrigued by this.. |
| 05:25.07 | halfhalo | ERROR: Loading command: install (LoadError) |
| 05:25.07 | halfhalo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.08 | halfhalo | ERROR: While executing gem ... (NameError) |
| 05:25.08 | halfhalo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.12 | halfhalo | RAWR! |
| 05:25.27 | Tman | do they make a laptop version of this drive? |
| 05:25.41 | halfhalo | it _is_ a laptop drive |
| 05:26.05 | halfhalo | little more pricey than a regular drive at 120, but not ssd pricey |
| 05:26.25 | Tman | yeah |
| 05:26.49 | Tman | what I don't understand is how the 4GB SSD improves the performance so much |
| 05:27.04 | halfhalo | it basically acts as a big ass read cache |
| 05:27.12 | Tman | does it automatically load the most-read sectors into SSD? |
| 05:27.14 | Tman | okay |
| 05:27.26 | halfhalo | yeah |
| 05:28.07 | halfhalo | it provides small bumps in everyday use over time |
| 05:28.07 | Tman | dang, too bad I already bought this 500G drive recently :p |
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| 05:28.23 | halfhalo | lol, I got mine for 50 bucks about a year ago |
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| 05:28.39 | dtzWill | wow, lesson learned: don't run govnah while doing speed tests LOL |
| 05:28.52 | Tman | it's a Hitachi though.. so it's probably quieter and I don't have to worry about sudden drop sensor compatibility |
| 05:29.56 | halfhalo | I have a thinkpad. I don't care about drop sensor since my laptop has one thats fun to play with, and mine is a wd scorpio blue :p |
| 05:30.52 | dtzWill | Tibfib: see pm :) |
| 05:34.24 | halfhalo | RUBY FAI: |
| 05:34.30 | halfhalo | dies |
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| 05:35.43 | halfhalo | socal ftw |
| 05:36.27 | halfhalo | cheers as rack builds |
| 05:37.42 | halfhalo | boos as rubygems takes _hours_ to install documentation |
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| 06:30.34 | swisstomcat | morning |
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| 06:31.47 | hape | ~seen noradtux_ |
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| 06:32.00 | swisstomcat | hallo hape |
| 06:32.08 | hape | Hi swisstomcat |
| 06:32.38 | hape | noradtux_: Are you still working on the Javascript srevice for speechd ? |
| 06:32.55 | swisstomcat | i've installed the latest navit .. when i start it i get a black screen. any ideas? |
| 06:36.33 | hape | swisstomcat: stupit question. Did you installed a map? |
| 06:37.10 | swisstomcat | yes, i have a map already installed from testing earlier versions |
| 06:37.13 | swisstomcat | unless something has changed? |
| 06:37.17 | hape | swisstomcat: If yes, check the log file in the folder where you copied the map to |
| 06:37.35 | swisstomcat | hold on |
| 06:37.58 | hape | The only chnage in the lasted update was that the map folder is now created in the postinst script. |
| 06:39.08 | swisstomcat | what's the path again? |
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| 06:40.38 | swisstomcat | for the maps? |
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| 06:41.49 | hape | appdata/org.webosinternals.navit from the usb drive root |
| 06:42.08 | hape | appdata/org.webosinternal.navit/maps for the maps |
| 06:42.19 | swisstomcat | ah, there |
| 06:42.25 | swisstomcat | thx |
| 06:42.39 | hape | if you not chnaged it in appdata/org.webosinternals.navit/navit.xml |
| 06:42.52 | swisstomcat | Navit log started |
| 06:42.54 | swisstomcat | navit:main_real:Using '/media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit//navit.xml' |
| 06:42.55 | swisstomcat | that's all |
| 06:43.30 | hape | Then something is goind defnely wrong. That is the old path from the alpha version |
| 06:44.23 | hape | did you removed navit alpa, locale and easpeak before updating to the testing feed version? |
| 06:44.31 | swisstomcat | i thought i deleted everything except the maps at one point |
| 06:44.51 | swisstomcat | yeah |
| 06:45.06 | swisstomcat | i'm positive i did |
| 06:45.07 | swisstomcat | but let me check |
| 06:46.06 | hape | best would be to delete the appdata/org.webosinternals.navit folder, remove and reinstall Navit to start with fresh settings |
| 06:46.17 | hape | then copy the map back to the right place |
| 06:46.23 | swisstomcat | ok, i can do that |
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| 06:46.53 | hape | and check if the old fodler that was in your logg is still exisiting. You can delet it if yes |
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| 06:50.06 | swisstomcat | reinstalling, i've deleted the folder |
| 06:50.46 | swisstomcat | so postinst should create that folder again |
| 06:54.21 | swisstomcat | bah, same thing |
| 06:54.24 | swisstomcat | same log |
| 06:54.43 | swisstomcat | i must do something wrong |
| 06:54.53 | swisstomcat | i've installed 0.2.0.3490-4 |
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| 08:00.58 | cdm | what's new and exciting with hacking on pre? |
| 08:09.34 | snang | Everything. |
| 08:09.45 | snang | There's a new patch that makes it print money. |
| 08:10.51 | rwhitby | cdm: roadrunner |
| 08:11.04 | snang | That too. |
| 08:11.21 | snang | webOS tablet makes my pants feel funny. |
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| 08:13.41 | swisstomcat | i thought the tablet was called hurricane? |
| 08:13.54 | snang | Just sayin. |
| 08:14.33 | snang | Hurricane in my pants. |
| 08:15.19 | kernelsandirs | who would buy that? :-) |
| 08:15.43 | snang | <-- this guy |
| 08:15.58 | kernelsandirs | haha nice |
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| 09:09.29 | hape | swisstomcat: Still there? |
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| 09:24.09 | tomlee | ping |
| 09:26.35 | hape | pong |
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| 09:32.11 | swisstomcat | hape: yeah, i'm back |
| 09:34.24 | tomlee | say, what are *.bar files? |
| 09:35.34 | swisstomcat | hmm |
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| 10:40.05 | swisstomcat | rehi |
| 10:40.48 | hape | swisstomcat: can you satrt navit via novaterm to check the output |
| 10:41.21 | swisstomcat | let me do that |
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| 10:42.41 | swisstomcat | root@palm-webos-device:/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.navit# navit.sh |
| 10:42.42 | swisstomcat | config file n is set to `/media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit//navit.xml' |
| 10:42.42 | swisstomcat | map_rect_new_textfile unable to open textfile /media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit//bookmark.tx |
| 10:42.49 | swisstomcat | oh, now it works |
| 10:43.00 | swisstomcat | maybe i didn't wait long enough the last time :O |
| 10:43.34 | jhojho | I dont suppose anyone knows the syntax to add static hosts to dnsmasq? I had it set up on my old dd-wrt setup but failed to save a copy. |
| 10:43.43 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 10:43.52 | swisstomcat | it only seems to work when it start it with navit.sh |
| 10:44.01 | swisstomcat | ah no, it works |
| 10:44.09 | swisstomcat | there's a black screen for like 20 seconds |
| 10:44.50 | hape | The init can take some time. |
| 10:45.13 | swisstomcat | it works |
| 10:45.14 | hape | At least if you start it directly after switching back from USB mode |
| 10:45.22 | swisstomcat | thank you .. sorry, i wasted your time |
| 10:45.39 | hape | no pro, wasn't that much ;) |
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| 11:15.22 | PuffTheMagic | hape: your nick reminds me of rape |
| 11:25.35 | jettero | the plan was to run save/restore one more time and get a media internals backup quick. Instead, I pushed: install now. Hehe |
| 11:25.51 | jettero | oh wells, 1.4.5 shortly |
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| 11:41.15 | en0x | hello! |
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| 11:46.38 | swisstomcat | elo |
| 11:47.44 | jettero | well, the update worked... I thought for sure preware would notice the update and reinstall all my patches, but instead it only thinks they're installed but they're not |
| 11:47.53 | jettero | I wondere where I got the idea that it would fix them for me |
| 11:49.13 | PuffTheMagic | did u save your list? |
| 11:49.20 | PuffTheMagic | in preware |
| 11:49.27 | jettero | yeah |
| 11:49.35 | jettero | wait, I think so, but what do you mean |
| 11:49.47 | PuffTheMagic | in the menu |
| 11:49.48 | swisstomcat | save saved package list |
| 11:49.52 | PuffTheMagic | yea |
| 11:49.55 | swisstomcat | something like that |
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| 11:51.21 | jettero | I see that feature, but I don't see how it would help. preware thinks all my patches are already installec but they're not |
| 11:54.17 | PuffTheMagic | well u cant go into the saved list |
| 11:54.21 | PuffTheMagic | and select install all? |
| 11:54.35 | jettero | it thinks they're already installed... so I don't think that would do anything |
| 11:54.47 | PuffTheMagic | did u try? |
| 11:55.00 | jettero | nope. I removed all the patches and rebooted. Now I'm going to install them again |
| 11:58.42 | jettero | hrm, can't install patches, apparently curl isn't installed |
| 11:59.11 | swisstomcat | bah, fire alarm |
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| 11:59.49 | en0x | swisstomcat: run man! run! |
| 12:02.20 | jettero | oh, curl is installed... I'm getting a 404 pulling the patch from preweare.org |
| 12:02.54 | jettero | updating feeds |
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| 12:04.46 | jettero | ahh, there we go |
| 12:05.21 | PuffTheMagic | is writing a C TCP json-rpc server |
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| 12:12.41 | jettero | PuffTheMagic: that kind of stuff rarely has buffer overflows. :) |
| 12:12.54 | jettero | PuffTheMagic: have you seen node.js? |
| 12:13.28 | jettero | I have a hunch it does what you want, fast enough, and you can probably port it to whereever you're wanting to use it |
| 12:14.29 | PuffTheMagic | jettero: this isnt for webos |
| 12:14.38 | jettero | doesn't change my answer |
| 12:14.45 | jettero | not that you asked a question |
| 12:15.35 | jettero | weird, I can't find the hide sprint tv app |
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| 12:18.04 | swisstomcat | bah, fire drill |
| 12:18.25 | jettero | well, the only way my upgrade to 1.4.5 cuold have gone smoother is if the patches thing would have worked out better |
| 12:18.30 | jettero | I got that all fixed up. |
| 12:18.41 | jettero | I'm assuming the install all would have done the trick... next time |
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| 13:11.09 | hape | PuffTheMagic: Here, in Germany, hape is a well known shor form of Hanspeter |
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| 14:56.42 | en0x | it's so quiet here |
| 14:56.48 | en0x | like never after upgrades |
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| 14:59.58 | Templarian | I lost internet at work this is annoying. |
| 14:59.58 | Templarian | Just http it would seem, everything else is fine. |
| 15:00.30 | Templarian | That was the longest 20min without internet ever. |
| 15:00.35 | en0x | lol |
| 15:00.38 | en0x | u r addicted my friend |
| 15:04.13 | summatusmentis | this is maybe a stupid question, but is there a terminal app? |
| 15:04.26 | en0x | yes |
| 15:04.38 | en0x | there is 2 |
| 15:05.19 | summatusmentis | cool |
| 15:05.46 | en0x | yap |
| 15:05.49 | summatusmentis | sorry, I'm obsessing over October, when I can put a device on SERO |
| 15:05.52 | en0x | i'm so bored at work |
| 15:06.01 | en0x | there is no SERO afaik |
| 15:06.22 | summatusmentis | SERO is no longer available, that's true |
| 15:06.39 | summatusmentis | I've still got my plan, and apparently Sprint will allow newer devices on SERO for $10/mo more |
| 15:07.14 | en0x | i wish i could get SERO |
| 15:09.04 | summatusmentis | this rumor is "all but" official |
| 15:09.09 | tmzt | is anybody still working on the Xsdl port? |
| 15:09.33 | en0x | summatusmentis: so how much u will pay? |
| 15:09.38 | en0x | i pay 60 bucks now |
| 15:09.44 | en0x | with the 15% discount included |
| 15:09.46 | summatusmentis | en0x: I'm currently on the $30/mo SERO plan |
| 15:09.52 | summatusmentis | so with the $10 addon, $40 |
| 15:10.05 | summatusmentis | or $50 if I want 4G |
| 15:10.10 | en0x | that's aint bad |
| 15:10.16 | en0x | and all unlimited right? |
| 15:10.22 | summatusmentis | should be |
| 15:10.28 | summatusmentis | or "unlimited" (5GB) |
| 15:10.30 | en0x | give it to me ;d |
| 15:10.34 | summatusmentis | I'm not sure what Sprint's current policy is |
| 15:10.39 | en0x | for smartphones internet is unlimited |
| 15:10.50 | summatusmentis | actually unlimited? |
| 15:10.54 | en0x | yes |
| 15:11.01 | en0x | not for the 3g/4g cards |
| 15:11.05 | summatusmentis | ah |
| 15:11.06 | en0x | the cards have 5gb cap |
| 15:11.21 | en0x | u know the one that u can hookup to ur laptop etc |
| 15:11.39 | summatusmentis | right |
| 15:12.20 | en0x | yap so only this have a cap |
| 15:12.24 | en0x | smartphones don't |
| 15:12.32 | en0x | that's why i tether my pre ;d |
| 15:12.34 | summatusmentis | specatacular :) |
| 15:13.30 | en0x | indeed :P |
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| 15:13.59 | en0x | hehe my billing cycle starts on the 7th of every month |
| 15:14.05 | en0x | and i have already used over 100MB |
| 15:14.21 | en0x | last month i did over 1gb |
| 15:14.26 | en0x | just by using internet on my pre |
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| 15:14.43 | en0x | i tether my phone from time to time when i'm in a park or something with a laptop |
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| 16:21.21 | djk | I have couple patches that fail on update or trying to remove post the 1.4.5 update. Anyone know if there is a way to correct this? (no auto-off while charging, Named Pages in the Launcher) |
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| 17:31.13 | mikePre | Is there a site/location I can see what Kernels are compatible with 1.4.5 on a Sprint Pre? I tried to use F105 and it told me that it was not supported... |
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| 19:18.32 | Cinna | hi, im trying to install preware with webos quick install and it says no device found when i click install. I have my Pre in developer mode and it is fully updated |
| 19:19.22 | Cinna | any ideas? |
| 19:19.41 | Mousey | linux? |
| 19:19.47 | Cinna | win xp |
| 19:19.53 | Mousey | oh |
| 19:19.58 | jettero | upgrade to 7 |
| 19:20.06 | jettero | <--- not being serious |
| 19:20.09 | Cinna | ive tried it on 7 and xp |
| 19:20.09 | Mousey | hasn't used windows for 12 years, waits for someone else to answer |
| 19:20.21 | Cinna | both say no device found |
| 19:20.37 | jettero | I used windows from time to time.. but not for anything useful, just games |
| 19:20.46 | Cinna | =( |
| 19:20.47 | jettero | still... did your phone come up as a dev to windows? |
| 19:20.50 | jettero | does it know it's there? |
| 19:20.58 | Cinna | let me check it again |
| 19:21.07 | jettero | did your phone ask: usb drive, just charge? |
| 19:21.25 | Cinna | hmm the phone isnt asking now |
| 19:21.34 | Cinna | i just unplugged and plugged it back in |
| 19:21.40 | Cinna | and it auto charges |
| 19:21.53 | jettero | well, webos quick install isn't going to see it if windows doesn't |
| 19:21.54 | Cinna | is this something new in the 1.4.5 update? |
| 19:22.01 | jettero | now |
| 19:22.04 | jettero | er... no |
| 19:22.10 | chrisA | lurks |
| 19:22.11 | jettero | to me, it feels like a windows problem |
| 19:22.18 | jettero | try rebooting the phone and the windows machine |
| 19:22.27 | Cinna | k |
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| 19:22.44 | Cinna | any other suggestions before i do so |
| 19:22.49 | Cinna | just in case |
| 19:22.53 | jettero | shrug |
| 19:23.00 | jettero | I think your problem is getting the phone to talk to windows |
| 19:23.07 | jettero | everything else will work after that |
| 19:23.19 | Cinna | hmm i may need to load linux on partition of my netbook then |
| 19:23.32 | jettero | probably not necessary |
| 19:23.36 | jettero | people install from windows all the time |
| 19:23.45 | jettero | I think one of your phone or the computer, are confused |
| 19:23.54 | Cinna | or me lol |
| 19:23.59 | jettero | heh |
| 19:24.03 | Cinna | i saw that it says to put it in just charge mode |
| 19:24.12 | Cinna | but how will windows see the phone if its in that mode |
| 19:24.14 | jettero | oh, well, then the phone sees windows I think |
| 19:24.28 | Mousey | Cinna: because of the magic of USB |
| 19:24.48 | Cinna | i figured charge mode keeps it from showing up as a usable device |
| 19:24.58 | Mousey | don't figure that |
| 19:25.05 | Cinna | lol k |
| 19:25.17 | Cinna | alright im going to restart and see if that helps |
| 19:25.35 | Cinna | thanks for the advice and other commentary ;) |
| 19:25.37 | Mousey | <rant>this is why windows it toxic, it hides too much from people, and allows silly misconceptions to arise</rant> |
| 19:28.38 | appamajig | Eh Mousey? I don't follow what was being hidden... |
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| 19:29.02 | Mousey | appamajig: everything useful. ever read the windows equivalent of syslog? |
| 19:29.14 | Havek | Hello |
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| 19:29.35 | appamajig | *shrug* nope... |
| 19:30.24 | Mousey | welp, there ya goi |
| 19:30.26 | Mousey | -i |
| 19:30.43 | Havek | Has anyone tried the gameboy advance emmulator? (No I don't need sites for roms.) |
| 19:30.56 | appamajig | I use and love Linux... but I wouldn't put it on anyone else's computer... it would be too frustrating for them. Every time they wanted to install a program I would have to show up and do it for them or help them out... *shrug* windows has a specific and very good user target. |
| 19:31.00 | halfhalo_class | someone here wrote it |
| 19:31.15 | Mousey | uh |
| 19:31.16 | Mousey | really? |
| 19:31.19 | appamajig | I'm not saying that it doesn't have it's problems, but at least I can install it on my mom's computer and not have to show up again for a while :P |
| 19:31.28 | Mousey | my wife is in HR, she loves linux, my brother's in construciton and loves linux |
| 19:31.49 | Mousey | my mom has a mac, and is a pain to support. she's getting linux next too |
| 19:32.04 | appamajig | That's great. I hope it works out well for them |
| 19:32.08 | Mousey | it has |
| 19:32.09 | Mousey | for years |
| 19:32.28 | Mousey | i always wonder when people bring up supporting linux why they think it's more difficult |
| 19:32.37 | jettero | it's definitely not more difficult |
| 19:32.39 | Mousey | in practice it's a lot easier |
| 19:32.44 | appamajig | myself, I spent hours getting my nvidia drivers installed the first time around. I've spent a lot of time with wine to get my games working... *shrug* Linux is great... but imho not great enough :) |
| 19:32.46 | jettero | it's because people are accustomed to windows |
| 19:32.53 | jettero | my wife can hardly tell the difference |
| 19:32.56 | Mousey | jettero: i guess |
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| 19:33.41 | Havek | The main question I had about the emulator was I loaded some stuff the way it said and the thing just looks at me.. It doesn't do anything when I try and run them LoL |
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| 19:35.30 | appamajig | anyways, goodbye everyone :) |
| 19:40.59 | jettero | windows just interrupted my game to tell me about updates... the only thing it's good for and it fails |
| 19:41.09 | halfhalo_class | ha |
| 19:41.20 | halfhalo_class | ohlookatthatthelogdiedagain |
| 19:43.57 | swisstomcat | no more windows for me .. good riddance |
| 19:44.33 | Havek | I have the updates sitting in the bottom left. Annoying.. |
| 19:47.40 | Mousey | lol |
| 19:47.48 | Mousey | steam for linux! end of summer! |
| 19:48.18 | swisstomcat | yay |
| 19:48.52 | Havek | I always really wanted to get into linux, I have it on a net book (ubuntu) But I just have no idea where to start, and what to do with it.. |
| 19:51.10 | summatusmentis | Havek: easiest way? pick something that's bugging you about it, and figure out how to fix it |
| 19:51.25 | dtzWill | Havek: hi, I'm the dev behind VBA. what's your issue? :) |
| 19:51.27 | jettero | havek, load it up, browse the web. That's it really |
| 19:52.22 | Havek | . |
| 19:53.09 | Havek | Ok how do you PM someone back.. I am in here via browser window not IRC client.. |
| 19:53.12 | Havek | lol |
| 19:54.57 | dtzWill | (I'm not ignoring you I just have no idea, never used the web client) |
| 19:55.15 | Havek | LoL |
| 19:55.40 | Havek | I clicked the link on webos internals screen. I haven't used IRC in a long long time. |
| 19:55.46 | swisstomcat | havek: i use ubuntu for web browsing,email(thunderbird),office stuff(openoffice),webos-programming(komodo edit),social media stuff(tweetdeck) ... i have everything |
| 19:56.16 | dtzWill | the webos-internals wiki is surprisingly unsuited for mobile viewing :( |
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| 20:07.37 | cryptk | dtzWill: I will be fixing that once the current OTA rush is over |
| 20:07.52 | cryptk | gonna use the same stuff as wikipedia does for their mobile version |
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| 20:08.16 | dtzWill | cryptk: exellent! |
| 20:08.21 | dtzWill | *excellent |
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| 21:03.05 | halfhalo_class | wawawaaaa |
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| 23:00.29 | *** topic/#webos-internals is Discussion about webOS internals (not webOS SDK usage - #webos for that, or wIRC - #wirc for that). Honor all licenses, carrier agreements and copyrights. Twitter: @webosinternals Logs: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/ Wiki: http://www.webos-internals.org/ Pastebin: http://webos.pastebin.com/ Preware: http://install.preware.org/ Patches: http://patches.webos-internals.org/ |
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| 23:00.37 | oilsworkn | welcome back infobot |
| 23:02.23 | dr_jkl | where, physically, is the pre's processor located? |
| 23:03.02 | oilsworkn | there are teardown pics on the internets |
| 23:03.06 | oilsworkn | but i dont know |
| 23:04.34 | egaudet | morning |
| 23:05.29 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i got wireless n working with the eee |
| 23:06.00 | egaudet | nice |
| 23:07.11 | dr_jkl | ok. that's one problem solved. |
| 23:08.17 | datafirm | Govnah, Mode Switcher, and the top menu hack are an awesome combo. |
| 23:08.34 | oilsworkn | oh, Yoppo got the govnah support in? |
| 23:08.38 | oilsworkn | is going to have to try it out again |
| 23:08.51 | dr_jkl | i changed up_threshhold to 70. we'll see if this makes things suck or if it improves. |
| 23:09.11 | oilsworkn | now you gotta redo your text file... |
| 23:09.20 | dr_jkl | nah, i just edited it on the phone |
| 23:09.23 | oilsworkn | "but with the scroll, you just keep rolling for more paper" |
| 23:09.24 | dr_jkl | nbd |
| 23:09.27 | oilsworkn | :) |
| 23:09.33 | datafirm | oilsworkn: Its finally working for me! can swtich govnah profiles! |
| 23:09.42 | oilsworkn | nice |
| 23:11.32 | dr_jkl | hm |
| 23:11.41 | dr_jkl | i dont' see any latency at 70 |
| 23:11.53 | dr_jkl | ooh, i know a good test |
| 23:11.57 | dr_jkl | fires up the demo video |
| 23:12.34 | dr_jkl | ahh. flickering. ok |
| 23:12.39 | dr_jkl | back down it goes. |
| 23:12.39 | PuffTheMagic | oilsworkn: still nothing on W|R :( |
| 23:12.46 | oilsworkn | i know, i saw |
| 23:12.50 | oilsworkn | or rather, didn't see :) |
| 23:13.27 | oilsworkn | dr_jkl: are you just running the stock kernel? |
| 23:13.40 | oilsworkn | people seem to like the screenstate governor in uberkernel |
| 23:14.07 | Yoppo | yep the govnah support is finally in and working :) |
| 23:14.15 | oilsworkn | nice |
| 23:14.16 | dr_jkl | yeah, i'm just running the stock kernel. |
| 23:14.29 | Yoppo | although I do have one question and whish for one change in it if possible :) |
| 23:14.31 | dr_jkl | i'm working on trying to extend the battery life by doing throttling. |
| 23:14.41 | oilsworkn | Yoppo: ive been thinking about changing the setprofile thing |
| 23:14.48 | Yoppo | yes about that |
| 23:14.56 | oilsworkn | right now if you tell it to set a profile that has been deleted it just ignores the request |
| 23:15.06 | oilsworkn | im thinking about going backj to palm default if it doesn't exist |
| 23:15.07 | PuffTheMagic | would be nice if the someone made the screenstate gov a module |
| 23:15.19 | PuffTheMagic | so that it didnt need a custom kernel |
| 23:15.22 | oilsworkn | so you don't get stuck in an overclocking profile |
| 23:15.36 | Yoppo | also could it be possible for the getProgiles to return the data in onSuccess rather that with starting the app? |
| 23:15.44 | Yoppo | that sound good |
| 23:15.46 | oilsworkn | hm |
| 23:15.49 | oilsworkn | thats a service thing xD |
| 23:15.54 | oilsworkn | rwhitby: ^? |
| 23:16.00 | oilsworkn | the service doesn't know about the profiles |
| 23:16.02 | oilsworkn | only the app does |
| 23:16.04 | oilsworkn | they're in a cookie |
| 23:16.08 | Yoppo | ah I see |
| 23:16.11 | oilsworkn | i guess the service could run the sqlite commands to extract it |
| 23:16.18 | oilsworkn | which maybe you can talk rwhitby into :) |
| 23:16.43 | Yoppo | since the govnah support is separate extension to MS but now it neeeds special support for passing the launch parameter to it |
| 23:16.43 | oilsworkn | but that does seem like the better way if it can be done |
| 23:16.49 | oilsworkn | yeah |
| 23:16.57 | Yoppo | so its not a big problem but at some point would be nice |
| 23:17.12 | oilsworkn | yeah |
| 23:17.19 | Yoppo | the question I had was that can I trust that there is no progile with id 0 or not |
| 23:17.28 | Yoppo | profile.. |
| 23:17.32 | oilsworkn | um |
| 23:17.34 | oilsworkn | i dont think there is |
| 23:17.36 | oilsworkn | i think it starts with 1 |
| 23:17.48 | oilsworkn | but i haven't looked at that code in a month or so, so i could be wrong |
| 23:18.07 | rwhitby | oilsworkn: we need to also list and process the profiles in reverse order |
| 23:18.28 | oilsworkn | hm? |
| 23:18.33 | rwhitby | so that the latest added profile is at the top, and overrides any predefined profile that is a subset |
| 23:18.47 | oilsworkn | ah |
| 23:19.01 | PuffTheMagic | oilsworkn: doctor your phone again so that the W|R article comes out |
| 23:19.12 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 23:19.16 | oilsworkn | knew that would happen |
| 23:19.29 | oilsworkn | waiting for MONTHS |
| 23:19.37 | oilsworkn | finally doctor, and BAM 145 gets released |
| 23:19.43 | oilsworkn | like 2 days later |
| 23:20.00 | dr_jkl | ew! |
| 23:20.06 | dr_jkl | tweaks more and reboot |
| 23:20.12 | oilsworkn | reboot? |
| 23:20.19 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 23:20.25 | dr_jkl | yep |
| 23:20.26 | summatusmentis | W|R? |
| 23:20.29 | dr_jkl | just to be sure :) |
| 23:20.34 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 23:20.42 | oilsworkn | summatusmentis: webosroundup |
| 23:20.48 | summatusmentis | ok |
| 23:20.52 | oilsworkn | apparently at some point they're putting up an article on wirc030 |
| 23:20.57 | oilsworkn | so the story goes xD |
| 23:21.06 | summatusmentis | :) |
| 23:23.21 | PuffTheMagic | oilsworkn: i think its gonna be more about hybirds |
| 23:23.27 | PuffTheMagic | and how wirc has always been one |
| 23:23.39 | oilsworkn | ah |
| 23:23.41 | PuffTheMagic | orsometing like that |
| 23:24.01 | PuffTheMagic | we have been every type of hybrid |
| 23:24.04 | PuffTheMagic | except nsapi |
| 23:24.06 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 23:24.16 | oilsworkn | was it ever a java service? |
| 23:24.20 | oilsworkn | i thought it started out as c |
| 23:24.28 | oilsworkn | after the ubermon test |
| 23:24.35 | halfhalo-final | moooooooo |
| 23:24.35 | PuffTheMagic | oh yeah |
| 23:24.44 | oilsworkn | so |
| 23:24.50 | oilsworkn | all the good types :) |
| 23:24.50 | PuffTheMagic | half of them |
| 23:27.26 | PuffTheMagic | is it possible to install a ipk buy clicking on a link in a browser? |
| 23:28.02 | rwhitby | yes, just set the association for preware |
| 23:28.25 | PuffTheMagic | can that be done with out any hack? |
| 23:28.37 | PuffTheMagic | well |
| 23:28.40 | PuffTheMagic | if it needs preware |
| 23:28.44 | PuffTheMagic | that doesnt help me |
| 23:29.01 | rwhitby | you can use Jason's Internalz instead if you like |
| 23:29.09 | PuffTheMagic | no that dont help either |
| 23:29.20 | cryptk | download it, then use ipkg at command line |
| 23:29.27 | PuffTheMagic | nope |
| 23:29.35 | cryptk | then no |
| 23:29.36 | PuffTheMagic | i wanted to install an ipk from a pdk app |
| 23:29.39 | PuffTheMagic | if possible |
| 23:29.55 | cryptk | is it a PDK app you are writing? |
| 23:30.13 | PuffTheMagic | cryptk: its a fake wirc pdk app |
| 23:30.20 | PuffTheMagic | i guess it will just say install preware |
| 23:30.37 | cryptk | ahh, so an app that you install that will then download and install wirc |
| 23:30.42 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 23:30.44 | dr_jkl | damn it |
| 23:30.46 | PuffTheMagic | but i dont think that will work |
| 23:30.53 | cryptk | that's very sneaky |
| 23:30.58 | dr_jkl | i spent 5 minutes trying to wipe a dust fleck off my lcd screen |
| 23:31.03 | dr_jkl | it turns out it was a comma |
| 23:31.06 | dr_jkl | >_< |
| 23:31.35 | rwhitby | so you want to do it without homebrew already installed? not possible (would be reported as a serious security vulnerability) |
| 23:31.54 | halfhalo-final | WAAAYYY Ahead of you with thatâ¦. |
| 23:31.55 | halfhalo-final | :p |
| 23:32.04 | PuffTheMagic | how do the palm web feed things work? |
| 23:32.18 | halfhalo-final | Insta-no-review push |
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| 23:41.34 | egaudet | palm web feed doesn't have PDK apps I don't think |
| 23:41.53 | dr_jkl | now, the only thing that might make uberkernel worth it is if it doesn't cause my palm to lock up occasionally |
| 23:41.59 | cryptk | hrm... why not make a PDK app that has a list of all of the WOSI apps that are in the app cat/beta feeds |
| 23:42.06 | cryptk | any app made my a WOSI dev |
| 23:42.15 | cryptk | so VBA would be in it, your dot game |
| 23:42.26 | cryptk | once they allow hybrids have WIRC in it |
| 23:42.53 | cryptk | have all of the apps in the cat/beta feeds have a price, have the PDK app list also say that they are available for free through preware |
| 23:43.08 | cryptk | much like how dtzWill_ put in his description for VBA |
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