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| 07:01.41 | *** topic/#webos-internals is Discussion about webOS internals (not webOS SDK usage - #webos for that, or wIRC - #wirc for that). Honor all licenses, carrier agreements and copyrights. Twitter: @webosinternals Logs: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/ Wiki: http://www.webos-internals.org/ Pastebin: http://webos.pastebin.com/ Preware: http://install.preware.org/ Patches: http://patches.webos-internals.org/ |
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| 07:03.15 | synnine | The overclock kernels are baller too. |
| 07:03.38 | rwhitby | assumes baller is good |
| 07:03.47 | synnine | I've tried uber, f105 and blackbird |
| 07:04.11 | synnine | Yeah. I have auto cap on. Don't want to seem to proper. |
| 07:04.19 | synnine | Too. |
| 07:05.39 | synnine | I turned it off but I guess I have to exit and rejoin... Let me see. |
| 07:05.54 | synnine | Brb. |
| 07:06.03 | geist | rwhitby: i guess it is |
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| 07:07.00 | synnine | pref test. |
| 07:07.13 | synnine | ahhh much better |
| 07:07.38 | geist | Capitalization is for chumps. |
| 07:08.06 | rwhitby | infobot: wb |
| 07:08.07 | infobot | It's great to be back! |
| 07:08.36 | rwhitby | ~botsnack |
| 07:08.36 | infobot | aw, gee, rwhitby |
| 07:08.41 | synnine | if I have wirc autofix it too much I'll stop using caps forever. |
| 07:09.08 | synnine | kinda how google made me forget spelling |
| 07:09.50 | geist | okay, fair enough |
| 07:10.38 | synnine | btw you devs rock! |
| 07:10.52 | rwhitby | indeed we do, collectively. |
| 07:10.56 | Anivrom | awww chucks |
| 07:11.00 | Anivrom | schucks? |
| 07:11.05 | oil | blushes |
| 07:11.51 | rwhitby | oil: what's the easiest way for another app to get access to the Preware blacklist array? |
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| 07:12.20 | oil | use a service to read its cookie? |
| 07:13.04 | oil | goes to sleep |
| 07:13.12 | rwhitby | what's the most efficient way, if it needs to do this many times while populating lists dynamically? |
| 07:13.47 | cryptk | have a call in the preware service to return the array and save it somewhere |
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| 07:23.33 | rwhitby | "<div class="location-services-description" id="restrictedcontent" x-mojo-loc="">For customers 18 years and older.</div>" |
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| 07:35.24 | rwhitby | looks like apps can have a licenseURL now too, and it gets displayed in the app cat if it exists |
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| 07:40.51 | swisstomcat | morning |
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| 07:40.59 | swisstomcat | testing wirc :) |
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| 07:47.31 | Ki11er | hello everyone. |
| 07:50.11 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 07:50.45 | Ki11er | I have a question |
| 07:51.48 | swisstomcat | go on |
| 07:54.43 | Ki11er | wel..as much as I hate iOS and everything associated with apple, I do admire the scrolling. is there any way to make the scrolling smother in webOS? |
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| 07:55.14 | lingfish_ | Hi all... so, latest wIRC says 1.4.5 only, but still exhibits the "waiting for plugin" issue... do I still need to do the umask add? |
| 07:55.15 | swisstomcat | overclock your pre |
| 07:55.34 | swisstomcat | did you check your fstab? |
| 07:55.44 | Ki11er | I'm overclocked to 800 |
| 07:56.05 | swisstomcat | scrolling still slow on 800? |
| 07:56.35 | Ki11er | it's less. but still jerky. |
| 07:56.58 | lingfish_ | swisstomcat: me? |
| 07:57.06 | swisstomcat | yeah |
| 07:57.20 | swisstomcat | i had the same problem |
| 07:57.25 | Ki11er | is the F105 going to be out of beta anytime soon? |
| 07:57.40 | lingfish_ | Well that's what I'm asking... I thought perhaps the new wIRC worked around needin to do the umask part? |
| 07:57.41 | swisstomcat | using wirc on 1.4.5 right now |
| 07:59.17 | swisstomcat | not that i know, i had to fix it |
| 07:59.18 | Ki11er | waiiiiiiit. swisstomcat, where do you live? |
| 07:59.19 | swisstomcat | europe |
| 07:59.19 | Ki11er | and how do you check the fstab? |
| 07:59.19 | swisstomcat | preware has a EFF tool to fix the fstab |
| 07:59.30 | Ki11er | oh. I'm in the US. no 1.4.5 around here. I'm waiting for 2.0 now. |
| 07:59.50 | swisstomcat | i wonder what the holdup is |
| 07:59.54 | rwhitby | lingfish_: just run the EFF |
| 08:00.16 | lingfish_ | And you still had to mod /etc/fstab? |
| 08:00.16 | lingfish_ | 0.3.0 |
| 08:00.42 | swisstomcat | i had to mod it |
| 08:00.53 | swisstomcat | yeah, you coul run EFF |
| 08:01.16 | jhojho | to fix scrolling jerkiness, I have some tricks that might work |
| 08:01.32 | jhojho | BUT need commandline access for one of them. u have to know linux |
| 08:02.00 | Ki11er | I looked at precentral and aparently we're "falling behind in broadband infrastucture"...whatever that means |
| 08:02.26 | jhojho | how does broadband infrastructure have anything to do with scrolling? |
| 08:02.34 | swisstomcat | heh |
| 08:03.04 | swisstomcat | the us should just use GSM, like everyone else :) |
| 08:03.20 | Ki11er | it doesn't. it has to do with the US not getting the 1.4.5 update |
| 08:03.29 | jhojho | it does, just on a *cough* not so great provider |
| 08:03.38 | swisstomcat | but they're probably talking about fixed-line broadband |
| 08:04.37 | Ki11er | idk what gsm is. what doesfstab dohtem ? |
| 08:05.28 | Ki11er | do ?* (this auto correct is pissing me off) |
| 08:08.35 | Ki11er | hello? |
| 08:10.24 | swisstomcat | what? |
| 08:11.58 | swisstomcat | bbl |
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| 08:14.29 | Ki11er | I was wondering why it got so quiet. will the eff thing make the pre run anyfaster since it's for the system config? |
| 08:16.36 | Ki11er | jhojho, are you still here? |
| 08:17.33 | rwhitby | Ki11er: the EFF does one thing and one thing only, and that thing is detailed in the description of the package. |
| 08:21.04 | jhojho | yes? |
| 08:25.07 | lingfish_ | rwhitby: sorry, EFF? |
| 08:27.33 | rwhitby | lingfish_: Emergency Fstab Fixer. In Preware. |
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| 08:31.32 | lingfish_ | rwhitby: lol... classic. Does it just do that one umask line? |
| 08:31.50 | rwhitby | yep |
| 08:32.06 | rwhitby | but it does it *very* well. |
| 08:33.37 | lingfish_ | No side effects of the change? |
| 08:33.49 | lingfish_ | lol, what do mean very well, heh. |
| 08:33.50 | rwhitby | nope |
| 08:33.52 | lingfish_ | (also hi :)) |
| 08:34.57 | rwhitby | it makes it identical to if you doctored to 1.4.5, and even checks the webOS version to make sure you can't apply it to any other webOS version. |
| 08:35.05 | rwhitby | and it's idempotent as well |
| 08:35.49 | lingfish_ | hrm, so why is it not right, after an upgrade to 1.4.5 then? I'm not following -- I thought 1.4.5 broke that entry... |
| 08:36.07 | rwhitby | OTA broke it. Doctor has correct. |
| 08:36.13 | lingfish | ah. |
| 08:36.22 | lingfish | How's things anyway Rod? |
| 08:36.37 | rwhitby | good, but I gotta run. time for home. |
| 08:36.39 | lingfish | I'm in England for work at the mo |
| 08:36.45 | lingfish | k |
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| 11:19.00 | mjkjr | is there a way to use the zip/unzip function that was added to save restore manually? like from terminal |
| 11:23.39 | mjkjr | I tried, "unzip filename" with no luck |
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| 13:07.29 | rwhitby | mjkjr: /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/bin/unzip filename |
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| 14:19.07 | lingfish | Hrm... anyone still seeing the age-old bug where mail accounts sync even when set to manual? |
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| 14:29.40 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: nice re: fstab fixer |
| 14:29.55 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: i was just gonna put a fix in the preware postinst or something |
| 14:30.00 | PuffTheMagic | but i guess this works too |
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| 14:49.17 | torchie | how do you get ipkg-opt onto the pre? |
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| 14:57.23 | torchie | FOUND IT |
| 14:57.28 | torchie | optware advanced linux command line installer |
| 14:57.31 | torchie | jizz |
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| 14:59.28 | bpadalino|work | please be sure to clean up after yourself |
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| 15:47.05 | egaudet | morning |
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| 15:57.23 | UzHans | Has anyone dealt with Save/Restore deleting files within the /internal/saverestore/ directory upon launch of Save/Restore? |
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| 16:26.25 | Darkmagister | i'm tryng to create a website work on palm pre, and with a similar interface, like iwebkit, jqtouch, iui .... for the iphone, someone know something similar for the palm pre ?... or where i can find the image for create a theme for this framework ??? |
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| 16:52.39 | MetaView | bsiegel? |
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| 17:44.57 | djk | Is there any word on when the update will be released in the US? |
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| 17:54.27 | chrisa | djk: When the carrier song and dance is finished |
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| 17:55.07 | oil_laptop | whatever happened to eguy? every time someone would ask when the update was the answer would be 'tomorrow!' |
| 17:55.15 | oil_laptop | and tomorrow, the same answer xD |
| 17:55.46 | en0x | djk: tomorrow |
| 17:55.58 | torchie | well kesne said "today" |
| 17:56.06 | torchie | but that was a week ago |
| 17:56.14 | torchie | actually 2 weeks :( |
| 17:56.17 | torchie | 1.4.5 |
| 17:56.25 | en0x | who listens to kesne? |
| 17:56.31 | oil_laptop | exactly |
| 17:56.43 | torchie | kesne's my little sweetie pie |
| 17:56.45 | en0x | kesne is just a kid with pimples :S |
| 17:58.11 | torchie | I'm a year older than him so I get to push him around |
| 17:58.17 | torchie | I have way better pimples than he does |
| 17:58.18 | en0x | lol |
| 17:58.26 | torchie | and scraggly, improperly shaved facial hair |
| 17:58.32 | en0x | is speechless :S |
| 17:58.38 | torchie | for maximum neckbeard |
| 18:06.18 | djk | Great so I'll wait for tomorrow. Oh wait tomorrow never comes :-( |
| 18:24.06 | RagingMind | http://www.precentral.net/move-cursor-text-field |
| 18:24.17 | RagingMind | omg. why didn't I find this out sooner? |
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| 19:00.21 | UzHans2 | the cursor took me about a month to figure out accidentally when trying to select txt with the wrong button |
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| 19:08.38 | MetaView | someone from webosinternals here? |
| 19:09.14 | sbromwich | no |
| 19:10.49 | MetaView | a pity |
| 19:11.03 | sbromwich | mmm |
| 19:18.56 | ShadeS | so uh |
| 19:19.04 | ShadeS | what do I need to start hello worlding applications for the pre |
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| 19:19.28 | en0x | text editor |
| 19:19.28 | en0x | ;] |
| 19:20.11 | MetaView | <html><head></head><body>Hello World!</body></html> |
| 19:43.36 | sbromwich | ShadeS: ares |
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| 19:44.08 | sbromwich | ShadeS: https://ares.palm.com/Ares/about.html |
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| 19:45.57 | N3O9Pr | Hello. |
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| 19:58.16 | b3ll | dtz!!! |
| 19:58.27 | b3ll | great news! xorg still works with 1.4.5!!! |
| 20:01.50 | balrog-k1n | so BTW, what's a good opensource text editor for the pre? |
| 20:02.10 | balrog-k1n | i just hate the Memos app but i still use it |
| 20:02.22 | en0x | vim! |
| 20:02.35 | balrog-k1n | is the a webos frontend? :) |
| 20:02.41 | balrog-k1n | there* |
| 20:03.03 | balrog-k1n | Memos freezes for like 5 seconds every time i type something or backspace through text |
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| 20:04.08 | dtzWill | b3ll: o_O it does? |
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| 20:04.31 | b3ll | dtzWill ya! |
| 20:04.40 | b3ll | so does xterm |
| 20:04.47 | b3ll | just launching from the icon doesn't work |
| 20:04.55 | b3ll | if you run the start.sh script it launchs |
| 20:04.58 | b3ll | launches* |
| 20:05.55 | dtzWill | b3ll: oh nice. so it's just the jail. what i figured but hadn't tested it yet. |
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| 20:06.15 | b3ll | dtzWill : whats the jail? |
| 20:06.18 | dtzWill | figured it would fail due to some api changes as well, and the whole "memory usage" parameter |
| 20:06.46 | dtzWill | b3ll: 1.4.5 makes apps run from a 'jail' which means they're limited in what they can access, and in theory what they can see. |
| 20:06.58 | dtzWill | to prevent them from doing things they shouldn't primarily. |
| 20:07.12 | b3ll | like sandboxed iphone applications? |
| 20:07.23 | nebula | i need a couch next to my work desk |
| 20:07.36 | b3ll | nebula : agreed, or a nice lazyboy |
| 20:07.43 | dtzWill | the x stuff I made good use of explicitly using other packages so that the libs and binaries were shared and you didn't need many copies |
| 20:07.54 | dtzWill | so that was just a design error that is completely broken on 1.4.5 :) |
| 20:08.15 | dtzWill | design decision... i don't think it was necessarily an error, i take that back hehe |
| 20:08.27 | dtzWill | b3ll: yes, like sandboxed iphone apps if that's how you prefer to see it :). |
| 20:09.02 | b3ll | dtzWill then how can the terminal run it, but not luna? |
| 20:09.17 | b3ll | isn't it sending the command to launch it? |
| 20:09.35 | dtzWill | b3ll: no. it just IS launching it. |
| 20:09.55 | b3ll | im so confused |
| 20:09.55 | dtzWill | luna sets up the jail (well i'm not exactly sure what component does the jailing) and then launches it. |
| 20:10.01 | b3ll | ohhhhh |
| 20:10.02 | dtzWill | terminal just launches it, no jail. |
| 20:10.22 | b3ll | so therefore now it needs to be jailed |
| 20:10.26 | b3ll | to be launched |
| 20:10.49 | b3ll | and luna can't directly send commands to the shell? |
| 20:12.02 | dtzWill | b3ll: luna CAN, they did the jail on *purpose* |
| 20:12.07 | dtzWill | for security reasons |
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| 20:13.00 | b3ll | oh i understand that |
| 20:13.06 | b3ll | ill see if i can fix this |
| 20:13.14 | b3ll | btw, how did you get lxde going? |
| 20:13.22 | b3ll | i installed it in debian |
| 20:13.43 | dtzWill | b3ll: for those screenshots i took? debian |
| 20:14.07 | b3ll | dtzWill: yea i figured that, but what'd you put in the x-window scripts :P |
| 20:14.56 | dtzWill | b3ll: i don't remember. you're going to wnat to integrate the chroot with the scripts then |
| 20:15.08 | dtzWill | and launch it from the chroot, w/e the start-lxde command is. |
| 20:15.22 | b3ll | oh that simple? |
| 20:15.43 | dtzWill | pretty much, yeah. |
| 20:16.11 | b3ll | oh okay lets see |
| 20:16.43 | b3ll | dtzWill : one more question :P, how does debian get the internet connection? it's own drivers? |
| 20:17.06 | b3ll | because I know a couple from fedora allow the chipset to be put in monitor mode |
| 20:18.08 | dtzWill | b3ll: well when you run the debian chroot you're not running a whole new linux instance. |
| 20:18.24 | dtzWill | b3ll: not booting up a debian kernel such that it needs its own drives for anything. |
| 20:18.33 | dtzWill | b3ll: so it access the internet the same way your pre does normally. |
| 20:18.59 | b3ll | the debian binaries are already pre-compatible? |
| 20:19.20 | dtzWill | b3ll: the applications are anyway, yeha. |
| 20:19.43 | b3ll | oh neat, okay ill let you get back to work :P i'm gonna play around with this |
| 20:19.51 | dtzWill | b3ll: kk. have fun :). |
| 20:20.07 | b3ll | WAIT |
| 20:20.10 | b3ll | wait wait wait |
| 20:20.16 | dtzWill | lol |
| 20:20.18 | b3ll | could one theoretically have an android chroot? |
| 20:24.21 | Marajin | Theoretically, but android depends on some kernel level tweaks |
| 20:24.56 | b3ll | how big? |
| 20:25.28 | Marajin | ah nothin' major I think, just bits of kernel support for some features.. |
| 20:26.40 | b3ll | hmm im gonna try that right now |
| 20:36.22 | b3ll | so has the omap port of android just died? :P |
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| 20:45.55 | MetaView | webosinternals here? |
| 20:46.02 | oilsworkn | no |
| 20:46.16 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 20:46.47 | MetaView | no? |
| 20:46.50 | MetaView | not even you? |
| 20:48.37 | b3ll | nope |
| 20:49.12 | oilsworkn | i guess im part of webos-internals |
| 20:49.18 | oilsworkn | lol |
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| 20:50.42 | egaudet | ~ask |
| 20:50.43 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 20:51.08 | oilsworkn | "We are all here voluntarily or against our will." |
| 20:51.09 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 20:51.15 | oilsworkn | who is here against their will? |
| 20:51.15 | egaudet | lol |
| 20:51.21 | oilsworkn | and |
| 20:51.24 | oilsworkn | infobot: welcome back |
| 20:51.25 | infobot | Welcome to the party, back! |
| 20:51.36 | egaudet | against our Will |
| 20:51.59 | egaudet | wtf |
| 20:52.04 | oilsworkn | ? |
| 20:52.04 | egaudet | welcome to the party, back? |
| 20:52.08 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 20:52.15 | egaudet | infobot, stop taking breaks |
| 20:52.16 | infobot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops taking breaks |
| 20:52.16 | egaudet | your losing it |
| 20:52.21 | egaudet | or you're losing |
| 20:52.23 | egaudet | it |
| 20:52.29 | oilsworkn | i think its supposed to be just "wb" |
| 20:52.34 | egaudet | infobot: wb |
| 20:52.35 | infobot | It's great to be back! |
| 20:53.03 | oilsworkn | so, i told him to welcome back back |
| 20:53.07 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 20:53.15 | egaudet | and he did just that lol |
| 20:53.41 | egaudet | infobot: welcome now leave |
| 20:53.42 | infobot | Good to see you, now leave! |
| 20:53.46 | oilsworkn | hah |
| 20:53.58 | oilsworkn | again with teh bot taking over the channel conversation :/ |
| 20:54.04 | egaudet | lol |
| 20:54.05 | oilsworkn | goes back to ignoring infobot |
| 20:54.22 | MetaView_ | ~ask |
| 20:54.23 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 20:54.50 | MetaView_ | I need to speak with bsiegel or who ever updated UC today/yesterday |
| 20:55.10 | oilsworkn | patch deal? |
| 20:55.24 | MetaView_ | yes |
| 20:55.31 | MetaView_ | the patch is empty now |
| 20:55.44 | oilsworkn | ohoh, |
| 20:55.46 | oilsworkn | thats no good |
| 20:55.47 | MetaView_ | people complain about the stock calendar |
| 20:55.51 | egaudet | it's oil's fault |
| 20:55.59 | MetaView_ | oil? |
| 20:56.03 | oilsworkn | GAH |
| 20:56.08 | MetaView_ | could you fix it? |
| 20:56.27 | oilsworkn | egaudet was lieing to you |
| 20:56.28 | MetaView_ | oil == öl |
| 20:56.57 | egaudet | sounded good |
| 20:57.08 | oilsworkn | egaudet: you're supposed to blame jhojho for everything |
| 20:57.43 | egaudet | I blame you, you blame him, I indirectly blame him :P |
| 20:57.53 | egaudet | MetaView_: what do you mean it's "blank" |
| 20:57.57 | egaudet | the patch legit is empty? |
| 20:58.05 | sammy | would changing initctl's log-priority to debug send messages to /var/log/messages? I'm trying to figure out why minstat's service just hangs when trying to start |
| 20:58.14 | MetaView_ | when people install the update the calendar is back to standard |
| 20:58.25 | MetaView_ | the existing patch is removed but no new patch is installed |
| 21:00.10 | egaudet | yeah that's not good |
| 21:00.14 | egaudet | patch file is empty file |
| 21:00.22 | oilsworkn | hm |
| 21:00.41 | oilsworkn | wonders if its upload problem? |
| 21:00.54 | egaudet | oilsworkn: are there any logs for the portal? |
| 21:00.59 | oilsworkn | idk |
| 21:01.38 | egaudet | it may be a bug in the regeneration code |
| 21:01.43 | oilsworkn | there may be normal apache logs |
| 21:01.49 | MetaView_ | I still don't know where I can find the actual patch files on the git |
| 21:01.57 | egaudet | gitorious |
| 21:02.11 | MetaView_ | but usingthe web-access? |
| 21:02.19 | egaudet | gitorious.com/webos-internals/ |
| 21:02.22 | egaudet | modifications repo |
| 21:02.46 | oilsworkn | MetaView_: was this patch uploaded pre or post server move? |
| 21:03.25 | MetaView_ | thx |
| 21:03.34 | MetaView_ | post server move |
| 21:04.25 | MetaView_ | 27.07.2010 22:44 Patch Submitted via the WebOS-Patches Web Portal! |
| 21:04.45 | MetaView_ | It's -2:00 to GMT |
| 21:04.59 | MetaView_ | no, +2:00 |
| 21:06.01 | oilsworkn | well |
| 21:06.22 | oilsworkn | i assume whoever approved it confirmed the patch wasnt blank before approving it |
| 21:06.44 | oilsworkn | so its probably not upload problem |
| 21:09.56 | datafirm | Hello. |
| 21:10.10 | datafirm | Anyone know how to do a complete dump/backup of the NVRAM memory? |
| 21:12.40 | egaudet | check the wiki |
| 21:13.13 | MetaView_ | seems I would need a restart - time to sleep now |
| 21:13.16 | b3ll | K so i got lxde installed and running, it's just not being sent to the pre's framebuffer, I setup the xorg config, and typed startx, yet an instance of x is already running in the xterm... |
| 21:13.24 | MetaView_ | will you have a look into the patch issue? |
| 21:14.59 | oilsworkn | hopes "you" is egaudet? |
| 21:15.37 | egaudet | hands off to oil as the power that be over the portal! |
| 21:15.39 | MetaView_ | well, I don't care :) |
| 21:15.58 | egaudet | MetaView_: upload another one |
| 21:16.09 | MetaView_ | the boss comes in 1 hour, he will see if everything is clean :D |
| 21:16.14 | MetaView_ | ok, I will |
| 21:16.50 | egaudet | I'll verify it's not empty and try to see if it's a bug in the process or what |
| 21:16.54 | oilsworkn | has no power over portal |
| 21:17.05 | oilsworkn | deletes his ssh keys on the server xD |
| 21:17.09 | egaudet | lol |
| 21:17.56 | egaudet | datafirm: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery |
| 21:18.41 | MetaView_ | updated |
| 21:22.25 | b3ll | egaudet can you edit the esn from there? |
| 21:22.34 | b3ll | with the tokens that is |
| 21:22.49 | datafirm | egaudet: that is just the tokens and nvram locations. |
| 21:22.55 | datafirm | not a complete backup. |
| 21:23.05 | datafirm | b3ll: no |
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| 21:23.14 | b3ll | damnit |
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| 21:25.22 | MetaView_ | g'night... |
| 21:29.30 | egaudet | datafirm: just use dd |
| 21:29.50 | b3ll | nvm found a good tutorial |
| 21:30.04 | egaudet | if you just wnat to dump all of the partitions on the Flash |
| 21:31.45 | datafirm | egaudet: But that wont get the VN ram items? |
| 21:31.53 | datafirm | NV |
| 21:32.15 | egaudet | ? |
| 21:34.10 | datafirm | egaudet: I want to back up the Non-Volatile memory that in the modem/radio. |
| 21:34.19 | datafirm | dd will just get the flash ram |
| 21:34.47 | egaudet | well "nvram" was very non-specific |
| 21:34.56 | egaudet | I don't know anything about the modem/radio though sorry |
| 21:35.30 | RagingMind | I should get X running on my pre and try out matchstick |
| 21:36.09 | datafirm | sorry, yeah just thinking about the radio right now. |
| 21:36.18 | egaudet | doesn't the doctor reflash the modem |
| 21:36.27 | datafirm | egaudet: sometimes, yeah |
| 21:36.42 | datafirm | but I dont think it flashes the whole ram contents. |
| 21:37.04 | datafirm | I screwed something up and want to be sure I can back it up. |
| 21:38.19 | egaudet | gotta head out, bbl |
| 21:48.21 | dtzWill | RagingMind: what's matchstick? did you mean matchbox? |
| 21:48.49 | dtzWill | RagingMind: matchbox should be staged in the WIDK and I think it worked fine last time i tried it. |
| 21:49.11 | dtzWill | it's meant mostly for devices with stylus so some buttons are a bit small.. but otherwise it's great. |
| 21:49.40 | dtzWill | b3ll: no need to run startx or xorg.conf |
| 21:49.54 | b3ll | dtzWill then why won't it load? |
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| 21:50.03 | b3ll | i have the server running |
| 21:50.05 | dtzWill | b3ll: x in preware is built on kdrive--it's statically confiured, no xorg.conf |
| 21:50.11 | dtzWill | b3ll: set your DISPLAY env variable. |
| 21:50.21 | b3ll | to? |
| 21:50.33 | dtzWill | b3ll: to ':0', sorry |
| 21:50.41 | b3ll | i think it already is |
| 21:50.50 | b3ll | at least in the org.webosinternals* |
| 21:51.03 | dtzWill | b3ll: right, but lxde needs that set to work |
| 21:51.16 | dtzWill | b3ll: so DISPLAY=:0 lxde-start-command |
| 21:51.21 | dtzWill | or whatever |
| 21:52.08 | b3ll | okay lets see |
| 21:53.51 | b3ll | dtzWill: but wait lxde is in the debian chroot |
| 21:53.52 | RagingMind | dtzWill, maybe matchbox, LOL |
| 21:53.54 | RagingMind | oops |
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| 22:33.11 | ird | Could someone point me to the wiki page that explains how to copy one device to another? |
| 22:33.18 | ird | The name of the app has escaped me.. |
| 22:37.15 | ird | haa |
| 22:37.17 | ird | rsync |
| 22:40.53 | ird | ugh |
| 22:41.00 | ird | I don't have ssh enabled on my old pre.. |
| 22:41.13 | ird | Maybe just back up the package list. |
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| 22:55.05 | ird | I wonder if they will deny my claim if I send it back with oc kernal even though I broke the screen. |
| 22:55.22 | ird | Better dr for safety. |
| 22:56.02 | ird | Now I'll have to get used to pressing the power button again since it works. |
| 22:56.08 | cryptk | lol |
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| 23:10.16 | ird | AUGH |
| 23:10.27 | ird | How am I supposed to turn on wifi without the screen working? |
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| 23:26.59 | ird | So if I can ping google from my phone why can't I download packages? :\ |
| 23:28.25 | raster | udb allowed through |
| 23:28.28 | raster | err udp |
| 23:28.32 | raster | tcp - not |
| 23:28.38 | ird | How do I fix this? |
| 23:28.45 | raster | err icmp allowed i mean |
| 23:28.51 | raster | dunno |
| 23:28.58 | raster | "it depends on why" |
| 23:29.10 | ird | How do I find out why then? |
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