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| 00:00.23 | idontwan2know | I'm still dumbfounded that people aren't picking up on Apple's admission that the iPhone4 drops MORE calls than the 3GS, which is already known as far and wide as having a horrible problem with dropping calls. |
| 00:00.41 | idontwan2know | But really folks, there's no problem here...it's all been overblown. |
| 00:01.01 | Wolvenhaven | shhhhh |
| 00:01.01 | RobiPre | there's a fun interview with the Woz about that |
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| 00:01.17 | Wolvenhaven | if you talk about about the iphone, apple censors you |
| 00:01.45 | Wolvenhaven | what i find funny is their 1984 ad, and now they're just like that |
| 00:01.48 | bhuey | it's wild that two apple folks would compliment Palm in the same day |
| 00:02.15 | RobiPre | he said to fix the situation, get a Pre plus from Verizon, and use the mifi when att/iphone fails |
| 00:02.24 | idontwan2know | Woz is funny. |
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| 00:02.48 | Wolvenhaven | yea, jobs is an asshole |
| 00:02.58 | Wolvenhaven | jobs refused to write a chapter for woz's memiors |
| 00:03.56 | idontwan2know | Plenty of people can't afford *one* smartphone data plan. nobody is going to pay for a second just to keep their iPhone. |
| 00:04.06 | Wolvenhaven | "no, i'm too busy to write a small chapter of a book for a guy who is completely responsible for all my early success |
| 00:04.10 | idontwan2know | well, nobody who isn't a billionaire Apple cofounder |
| 00:05.08 | Wolvenhaven | apple has found a great niche |
| 00:05.15 | Wolvenhaven | liberating people from the tyranny of choice |
| 00:07.45 | Robi_ | oil: around? wirc dark theme uses black on grey text for stuff you enter, hard to see ;[ |
| 00:09.56 | oil | hm |
| 00:10.01 | egaudet | pffft |
| 00:10.05 | oil | in which scene? |
| 00:11.14 | oil | (its not hapening to me) |
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| 00:13.15 | egaudet | 0.2.4? |
| 00:13.31 | oil | well if thats the case |
| 00:13.37 | oil | wait for update :) |
| 00:14.56 | egaudet | I can't believe I've been running my HDD at 1.5GB/s for years |
| 00:14.58 | oil | palm-dark is much better in 030 |
| 00:17.13 | idontwan2know | Not a complaint, just curious...why does the latest virtual keyboard with all the extras installed autocorrect spelling, but not punctuation? |
| 00:17.44 | idontwan2know | err...capitalization, not punctuation |
| 00:17.49 | egaudet | idontwan2know, because the developer is an idiot |
| 00:17.49 | idontwan2know | heh |
| 00:18.02 | idontwan2know | gotcha |
| 00:18.47 | egaudet | although your misspeak has uncovered an autocorrect bug now. I suppose the punctuation delimiters do not cause autocorrect in the VKB like they do with hard keyboard |
| 00:19.09 | egaudet | well not an autocorrect bug but yeah |
| 00:19.40 | Wolvenhaven | http://pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/anti-atheist-christian.jpg?w=430&h=602 |
| 00:20.11 | Wolvenhaven | oops |
| 00:20.14 | Wolvenhaven | wrong room |
| 00:20.35 | zsoc | i like how he's a goat |
| 00:20.41 | oil | lol |
| 00:20.44 | idontwan2know | I assume the issue with the VKB reappearing after you change landscapes is known? |
| 00:21.03 | idontwan2know | err...change orientation* |
| 00:21.06 | egaudet | http://git.webos-internals.org/trac/virtual-keyboard/report/1 |
| 00:21.36 | idontwan2know | neat...I will look there rather than asking in the future |
| 00:22.59 | egaudet | (the enter-repeat bug that was visible in the app catalog search for instance has been fixed locally) |
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| 00:24.25 | idontwan2know | cool |
| 00:25.24 | oil | egaudet: do you use vkb a lot? when you're not working on it? |
| 00:26.32 | egaudet | oil not as much as I think I should lol |
| 00:26.59 | egaudet | I went a while not even touching it, until the recent changes |
| 00:27.15 | idontwan2know | I have found it a lot more useful lately. Not sure if the software itself is better, or if OCing has helped, but it seems much more accurate and less laggy than in the past |
| 00:27.27 | egaudet | idontwan2know, I fixed it a lot |
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| 00:28.19 | idontwan2know | Awesome. I went a long time without using it much, but have gone back to it with some of the improvements. |
| 00:28.21 | egaudet | I added some "semi-hackish-multi-touch-sorta-kinda-not-really-but-close-enough" logic to the mouse events that are captured, and stopped using the target object as the hit detector which throws it off when the object enlarges for preview |
| 00:29.09 | egaudet | The changes also allow holding shift/function and then tapping a number (well they will when I take the repeat away from the hold on those keys) |
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| 00:29.17 | oil | does it come up faster? |
| 00:30.02 | egaudet | no, but it renders once per stage |
| 00:30.15 | egaudet | instead of rendering, closing, rendering etc... |
| 00:30.44 | oil | yeah so its in the framework, basically attached to every app |
| 00:30.50 | egaudet | I want to get this version of the VKB stable and bug-free so that I can eventually move to implementing a PDK learning keyboard |
| 00:31.08 | egaudet | oil yeah it's a widget, so it just loads and attaches itself |
| 00:31.59 | oil | only if we could put it into lunasysmgr xD |
| 00:32.56 | egaudet | hey maybe I'll just steal the framebuffer from luna and do what I want! lol |
| 00:35.15 | egaudet | of course as a PDK app using keyboss key emulation, it would be pretty awesome. |
| 00:35.23 | idontwan2know | I think the Pre's screen size puts an ultimate cap on the usability of it. But presumably the next gen of hardware will have at *least* a 3.5-3.7in screen. |
| 00:35.50 | idontwan2know | which would be plenty, especially in landscape |
| 00:37.31 | oil | egaudet: i wish it could go in a popup |
| 00:37.41 | oil | so the card would scale to the height of whats left |
| 00:37.45 | oil | instead of floating over it |
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| 00:38.25 | oil | have you thought about attaching it to the textbox code instead of the symblock? |
| 00:38.37 | egaudet | oil it can and will |
| 00:38.41 | oil | and have taping on the textbox spawn a popup with the keyboard on it? |
| 00:38.50 | egaudet | can and will go in a popup |
| 00:38.58 | oil | oh, but do popups show in landscape? |
| 00:39.08 | egaudet | yep |
| 00:39.12 | oil | thats nice |
| 00:39.26 | egaudet | yeah, way back when I first started I began it as a popup app |
| 00:39.35 | egaudet | then realized I couldn't do what I wanted and landscape was impossible |
| 00:39.46 | egaudet | then I think in 1.3.5 or 1.4.0 they added popup landscape |
| 00:39.51 | oil | ah |
| 00:40.16 | egaudet | and I believe there is a paid app keyboard in the app cat that does it in popup |
| 00:40.26 | oil | no patch? |
| 00:40.45 | egaudet | no patch but it's not fully integrated all it can do is "paste" |
| 00:40.58 | oil | oh, that sucks |
| 00:40.59 | idontwan2know | yeah, it's not particularly useful |
| 00:41.14 | egaudet | I've been thinking about making it like that for the app cat but also having homebrew add-on capabilities to fully integrate it |
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| 00:44.09 | idontwan2know | hmm...there's actually two of those apps in the catalog |
| 00:44.16 | idontwan2know | one is $5. lol |
| 00:45.26 | oil | lol |
| 00:45.33 | egaudet | http://img340.imageshack.us/i/vkb.png/ |
| 00:46.11 | idontwan2know | Both of them have pretty horrific reviews. |
| 00:47.02 | egaudet | if I were Palm I'd put keyboard emulation service in Luna and have it be like the GPS, allow user to enable/disable and popup on install an app that uses it |
| 00:47.44 | oil | that keyboard is a little ugly |
| 00:48.01 | egaudet | a little? |
| 00:48.10 | oil | is being polite? |
| 00:48.13 | egaudet | damn thing is horrendous |
| 00:48.43 | egaudet | and getting letters to fit nicely inside a boarder radius that screws up the 32px div in portrait sucks |
| 00:48.47 | egaudet | but that was more POC |
| 00:49.44 | egaudet | now of course oil can always design a nice JS layout and images for a VKB for me ;-) |
| 00:51.40 | idontwan2know | listens to the crickets |
| 00:51.46 | oil | lol |
| 00:51.51 | egaudet | steps on one |
| 00:51.56 | oil | could |
| 00:53.07 | zsoc | ~crickets |
| 00:53.08 | infobot | ACTION chirps uninterestedly |
| 00:53.11 | halfhalo | but⦠he wont |
| 00:53.21 | oil | depends if i have time |
| 00:53.26 | oil | codes on a lot of projects |
| 00:53.55 | halfhalo | lies |
| 00:54.11 | idontwan2know | Interesting...VKB does autocorrect i to I. |
| 00:54.38 | idontwan2know | but not i'm to I'm |
| 00:55.29 | egaudet | idontwan2know, the VKB doesn't have any autocorrect code in it |
| 00:55.34 | idontwan2know | right |
| 00:55.48 | idontwan2know | I can't seem to say what I mean tonight. |
| 00:55.55 | egaudet | so if hardware space doesn't correct i'm |
| 00:56.35 | idontwan2know | yeah, it doesn't |
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| 01:04.59 | halfhalo | ka6sox: did you ever non root wargames? |
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| 01:32.45 | bsiegel | does anyone know if there is an optware package (either via preware or using ipkg-opt) that has an ssh client without activating an ssh server as well? |
| 01:33.07 | bsiegel | I tried the preware openssh package but it configured and launched the ssh server as well, which I would like to not do |
| 01:33.24 | bsiegel | I have admittedly not yet tried preware's dropbear package |
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| 01:46.51 | ka6sox | halfhalo, nope, not yet...waiting for you to show me how to do it :D |
| 01:47.57 | halfhalo | ugggg |
| 01:48.04 | halfhalo | its like two lines |
| 01:48.29 | ka6sox | halfhalo, send me the 2 lines and I'll get it done :P |
| 01:48.44 | ka6sox | its like....106deg here :P |
| 01:48.50 | halfhalo | heh |
| 01:48.58 | halfhalo | well, actually, it more like two words |
| 01:49.54 | ka6sox | okay then either paste it here or in a pastebin. |
| 01:50.45 | halfhalo | server side: open app.js and change port. client side: open jquery.wargames.js and change the port |
| 01:50.48 | halfhalo | done |
| 01:52.51 | ka6sox | okay what port? |
| 01:53.19 | halfhalo | i choose you port 8121 |
| 01:53.39 | ka6sox | wfm |
| 01:55.07 | halfhalo | ? |
| 01:55.55 | ka6sox | Works For Me. |
| 01:56.25 | halfhalo | lies |
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| 02:03.54 | hborders | can anyone in here help me with cross-compiling? zlib's configure script runs just fine, and make runs just fine, but when I try to compile an example app, I get linker errors |
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| 02:04.30 | ka6sox | hborders, you staged it into the right directory? |
| 02:04.55 | hborders | ka6sox: I'm a noob. i don't know what you mean |
| 02:05.17 | hborders | ka6sox: if there is something I can read about cross-compiling in general, I'd love to educate myself |
| 02:06.45 | ka6sox | I only know what I've heard and witnessed in 6yrs of hanging around...I know that libs like zlib when they are dependencies need to be "staged" in a certain directory so that they are available when the linker does its thing. |
| 02:07.20 | ka6sox | see if there is a make stage target for zlib |
| 02:07.43 | hborders | ok |
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| 02:09.22 | hborders | nope, not there |
| 02:09.36 | hborders | yeah, I think i have my libs in the right place. I don't get errors about missing libs |
| 02:09.43 | hborders | I just get a bunch of undefined function references |
| 02:14.02 | ka6sox | now you have exhausted my knowledge. |
| 02:14.40 | hborders | well, thanks for trying |
| 02:14.42 | hborders | anyone else? |
| 02:14.44 | ka6sox | kernels are sooo much simpler than this application stuff. |
| 02:14.50 | hborders | :) |
| 02:15.19 | ka6sox | okay back to seeing if I can oops this new module I'm playing with. |
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| 02:31.10 | hborders | ok, I got my zlib example working. I think I linked zlib properly. The question now is this: why did this work: |
| 02:31.23 | hborders | PATH=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/:$PATH /opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc fitblk.c -L/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib -lz -I/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/include/ --sysroot=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/sysroot/ -o fitblk |
| 02:31.35 | hborders | and this not: |
| 02:31.35 | hborders | arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mcpu=arm1136jf-s -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp -I/opt/PalmPDK/include -I/opt/PalmPDK/include/SDL -I/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/include --sysroot=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/sysroot -static -L/opt/PalmPDK/device/lib -L/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib |
| 02:31.35 | hborders | -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined,-rpath-link,/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib -lz -o Build_Device/hello fitblk.c |
| 02:34.33 | Wolvenhaven | damn dude |
| 02:34.36 | Wolvenhaven | use pastebin |
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| 02:39.05 | hborders | sorry |
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| 02:39.25 | hborders | only 2 lines. :) |
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| 03:04.01 | Tman | hborders: how is/was that tutorial going? :) |
| 03:04.18 | hborders | tman: i'm stuck |
| 03:04.53 | hborders | tman: I had to fall back and try to recompile all the libs I needed into statics since palm won't let you link to any of your own .so's |
| 03:04.59 | hborders | maybe you can help me |
| 03:05.18 | Tman | hborders: right, that's what I do |
| 03:05.32 | hborders | I'm reading through the gcc docs right now trying to figure out a gcc argument order issue |
| 03:05.41 | Tman | just about everything I needed builds a static lib in WIDK |
| 03:05.53 | hborders | I need zlib, openssl, and curl |
| 03:05.57 | hborders | they are not static in WIDK |
| 03:06.03 | hborders | or at least they weren't last week |
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| 03:06.51 | Tman | hm idk why you'd need those on a minimal tutorial.. or maybe you need them for your app |
| 03:07.01 | hborders | I need them for my app |
| 03:07.07 | hborders | I don't need them for the tutorial |
| 03:07.27 | Tman | well.. looking at the configure for each package for an option like --with-static might help |
| 03:07.44 | hborders | I built zlib and openssl statically |
| 03:07.53 | hborders | and they both completed just fine |
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| 03:08.15 | Tman | curl's the problem then? |
| 03:08.18 | hborders | then, when I tried to build curl, its libssl test program failed to link |
| 03:08.33 | hborders | so I'm trying to figure out what's going on there |
| 03:08.51 | Tman | hm, well can you at least still get the static lib out and try it? |
| 03:08.57 | Tman | of curl that is |
| 03:09.19 | hborders | does widk build a curl static lib now? |
| 03:09.28 | Tman | idk |
| 03:10.02 | Tman | wait libssl test program.. is this in curl's configure script? |
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| 03:10.19 | hborders | yes |
| 03:10.33 | Tman | ah.. ok |
| 03:10.37 | hborders | but i've got a very basic gcc question |
| 03:10.57 | hborders | why does this succeed: |
| 03:10.57 | hborders | PATH=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/:$PATH /opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mcpu=arm1136jf-s -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp fitblk.c -I/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/include/ -L/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib --sysroot=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/sysroot/ -lz -o fitblk |
| 03:11.01 | hborders | and this fail: |
| 03:11.01 | Tman | well, if you're restricting it from using the .so's you might not need to |
| 03:11.07 | hborders | PATH=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/:$PATH /opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mcpu=arm1136jf-s -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp -I/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/include/ -L/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib --sysroot=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/sysroot/ -lz -o fitblk fitblk.c |
| 03:11.23 | ka6sox | hborders, webos-internals.pastebin.com |
| 03:11.27 | ka6sox | please |
| 03:11.52 | hborders | sorry, will do |
| 03:12.51 | hborders | http://webos.pastebin.com/b9i5JtVh |
| 03:12.54 | hborders | there |
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| 03:13.58 | ka6sox | hborders, kewl...thanks! |
| 03:14.51 | hborders | the main difference is that in the failing one the .c command is the last argument |
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| 03:15.42 | Tman | I don't know why you get that. You could try putting the -lz somewhere else. Actually, whenever I do a static build, I just include a path to libz.a for example as if it were another source file, rather than using -l |
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| 03:15.58 | Tman | I seem to have problems with -l and static libs |
| 03:16.41 | hborders | ok, I'll try that with curl and see if it helps |
| 03:17.02 | hborders | I'm mostly just concerned about getting basic static linking working. before I continue with the tutorial |
| 03:17.12 | hborders | if I can't do that, the tutorial's not helpful to anyone |
| 03:17.31 | jhopixi | alright time to get some help from irc. my wireless router is dead and I'm at best buy looking for a replacement |
| 03:17.44 | jhopixi | want one that I can dd-wrt |
| 03:17.46 | halfhalo | what models are there |
| 03:18.37 | hborders | I thought that linksys discontinued the dd-wrt ones |
| 03:18.38 | jhopixi | looking |
| 03:18.54 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: buy a wrt54g online :p |
| 03:19.02 | halfhalo | eeehhhh |
| 03:19.10 | jhopixi | zoc need one for right now :) |
| 03:19.12 | halfhalo | i have a wrt-600n |
| 03:19.16 | halfhalo | i heart it |
| 03:19.23 | egaudet | if you are doing static, order matters |
| 03:19.41 | jhopixi | netgear wn802t |
| 03:19.45 | egaudet | objects aren't pulled in from the static library unless needed in a previous call |
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| 03:19.57 | zsoc|away | jhojho: the website claims the cisco valet series routers work |
| 03:19.59 | hborders | egaudet: (I'm a noob) can you help me find a doc to read about that |
| 03:19.59 | egaudet | thus when you get to the call at the end (even though you linked the lib before) the symbol is not defined |
| 03:20.24 | egaudet | http://linux.die.net/man/1/ld |
| 03:20.34 | hborders | egaudet: lol, thanks. |
| 03:20.36 | jhopixi | linksys e1000 |
| 03:20.38 | zsoc|away | hborders: just read the error, see what symbol it's looking for, and put that lib on the other side :p |
| 03:20.51 | hborders | egaudet: I lol because I should have known that |
| 03:20.59 | egaudet | -no one- likes static libraries |
| 03:21.03 | zsoc|away | jhojho: e1000 revision 1.0 and 2.0 works |
| 03:21.16 | hborders | egaudet: I'm beginning to understand that |
| 03:21.25 | egaudet | Palm needs to just allow shared libs in the apps dir, which is not accessible from other apps jails |
| 03:21.31 | jhopixi | grr can't tell the rev number |
| 03:21.33 | zsoc|away | jhojho: OH I TAKE THAT BACK |
| 03:21.42 | halfhalo | i was about to say |
| 03:21.44 | hborders | egaudet: I know |
| 03:21.44 | zsoc|away | jhojho: IM READING A LIST OF /UNSUPPORTED/ ROUTERS lol |
| 03:22.23 | jhopixi | lol |
| 03:22.28 | jhopixi | thanks |
| 03:22.37 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: wrt600n it is then |
| 03:22.47 | jhopixi | how about a wireless-n 300 |
| 03:22.50 | halfhalo | not gonna be in store |
| 03:22.58 | halfhalo | which model for the wireless n 300 |
| 03:23.21 | zsoc|away | jhojho: 300n 1.0, 1.1, or 2.0 |
| 03:23.52 | zsoc|away | jhojho: whoops, take it back again, 1.0 or 1.1.... 2.0 is not supported |
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| 03:24.21 | jhopixi | can't tell from the packaging |
| 03:24.21 | zsoc|away | also, the 300n is not 'officially' supported, but has some hax0r instructions |
| 03:24.32 | jhopixi | darn |
| 03:25.07 | jhopixi | oh here we go |
| 03:25.14 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: 160n is well documented for all versions |
| 03:25.15 | jhopixi | cisco valet |
| 03:25.42 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: the valet is on the list, but there are no install instructions. i wouldn't trust it |
| 03:25.47 | zsoc|away | jhojho: i'd get the 160n |
| 03:25.51 | jhopixi | how about this netgear rangemax |
| 03:25.57 | jhopixi | dual band n |
| 03:26.04 | halfhalo | model num |
| 03:26.09 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: the 3300? |
| 03:26.16 | zsoc|away | i think the 3300 is the only dual band n |
| 03:26.19 | zsoc|away | crap i know too much about routers lol |
| 03:26.22 | jhopixi | wndr3700 |
| 03:26.26 | zsoc|away | hmm.. 3700 |
| 03:26.29 | jhopixi | it's gig too |
| 03:26.32 | jhopixi | mmm |
| 03:26.38 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: no |
| 03:26.53 | jhopixi | my whole house could be gig!! |
| 03:26.56 | halfhalo | why no? |
| 03:27.02 | halfhalo | its sayint yes for me... |
| 03:27.10 | zsoc|away | halfhalo: i have a different list? lol |
| 03:27.11 | zsoc|away | maybe |
| 03:27.21 | halfhalo | Netgear WNDR3700 Firmware: Special image for initial flashing |
| 03:27.25 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: honestly, ddwrt runs on almost /anything/, it's just a matter of how much of a pain in the neck it is |
| 03:27.30 | zsoc|away | halfhalo: oh yes, i see that now |
| 03:27.47 | zsoc|away | jhopixi: so yes, as long as that special image is readily available, the 3700 looks hot |
| 03:27.49 | zsoc|away | and sexy |
| 03:27.51 | jhopixi | I jus want something quick right now |
| 03:27.55 | halfhalo | get it |
| 03:28.02 | halfhalo | its almost as good as mah 600n |
| 03:28.04 | halfhalo | :p |
| 03:28.10 | jhopixi | 3700 is $$$ |
| 03:28.16 | halfhalo | or mah 350n being a repeater |
| 03:28.16 | jhopixi | 169 |
| 03:28.18 | jhopixi | grr |
| 03:28.22 | halfhalo | doitdoitdoit |
| 03:28.38 | jhopixi | I want something that supports wps too |
| 03:28.38 | zsoc|away | oh god |
| 03:28.41 | zsoc|away | it's atheros |
| 03:28.44 | zsoc|away | you don't want that lol |
| 03:28.46 | zsoc|away | broadcom ftw |
| 03:28.56 | halfhalo | slaps zsoc|away |
| 03:29.02 | halfhalo | NO BROADCOM NO |
| 03:29.07 | zsoc|away | well, as long as it's not realtek you're fine i suppose :p |
| 03:29.11 | jhopixi | multilevel house with lots of walls |
| 03:29.12 | ka6sox | ~lart zsoc|away |
| 03:29.12 | infobot | frags zsoc|away with his BFG9000 |
| 03:29.31 | zsoc|away | ok, let halfhalo tell you what to buy :p i'm going back away |
| 03:29.47 | ka6sox | zsoc|away, just pulling your chain :D |
| 03:29.48 | halfhalo | has nightmares from getting his g4 powerbook to work with linux due to broadcm |
| 03:29.50 | jhopixi | what's the diff between the valet and valet plus? |
| 03:30.00 | halfhalo | money? |
| 03:30.12 | jhopixi | hahaha |
| 03:30.45 | tyler_wylie | If I have a Palm Pre but not currently tied to any service is there a way to get it to download my palm profile over wifi |
| 03:30.52 | halfhalo | ye |
| 03:30.53 | halfhalo | s |
| 03:30.55 | halfhalo | metadoctor |
| 03:31.17 | jhopixi | the packaging does not say which is why I am asking |
| 03:31.18 | ka6sox | zsoc|away, I saw a new libgles that made it into OE Git yesterday....with headers! |
| 03:31.30 | tyler_wylie | halfhalo: metadoctor? |
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| 03:31.59 | halfhalo | yes. its a tool to bypass activation and first us so you can enable wifi to download your profile |
| 03:32.10 | tyler_wylie | nice |
| 03:32.17 | jhopixi | halo how about a wnr3500l? |
| 03:32.58 | halfhalo | 3500l? |
| 03:33.03 | halfhalo | no listing for that on ddwrt |
| 03:34.01 | jhopixi | how about the cisco muchtall 10 vs m20 |
| 03:34.13 | jhopixi | m10 that is |
| 03:34.13 | muchtall | wha wha? |
| 03:34.18 | muchtall | hehe |
| 03:34.30 | halfhalo | no listing for either |
| 03:34.35 | muchtall | Dman. I need my own line of Cisco gear. |
| 03:34.39 | ka6sox | he breathed on the gesture area. |
| 03:35.04 | halfhalo | backs away from ka6sox slowly |
| 03:35.05 | jhopixi | damn wirc |
| 03:35.45 | halfhalo | why the hell is there 25 php-fcgi processes runningâ¦.. |
| 03:35.49 | ka6sox | jhopixi, you need 2 left thumbs to operate it. |
| 03:36.38 | gollyzila|comp | With the new ability to install packages locally with Preware, can it also install Patches? |
| 03:37.29 | jhopixi | php-fpm ftw |
| 03:37.38 | halfhalo | lies |
| 03:37.53 | halfhalo | and plus, im running passenger as well |
| 03:38.15 | jhopixi | okay this wnr3500l claims to be open source. |
| 03:38.30 | halfhalo | yeah, but so does my watch. dont mean crap |
| 03:38.38 | jhopixi | myopenrouter.com |
| 03:38.41 | jhopixi | hmmmm |
| 03:39.11 | jhopixi | I think I will get this one for now and order something online |
| 03:39.19 | halfhalo | lol |
| 03:40.13 | halfhalo | why the hell is there no open source cpanel alternative that supports nginx |
| 03:40.37 | halfhalo | I really do not want to use apacheâ¦. its to bloated |
| 03:40.49 | ka6sox | s/to/too/g |
| 03:41.00 | halfhalo | lol |
| 03:41.15 | ka6sox | ~lart infobot |
| 03:41.15 | infobot | nabs the moon and broadsides ka6sox with the sea of tranquility |
| 03:41.29 | jhopixi | cpanel is for noobs :D |
| 03:41.45 | jhopixi | lol they have kin display models here |
| 03:41.47 | halfhalo | im lazy dammit |
| 03:43.17 | halfhalo | im making fun of all you for using apache for the wiki |
| 03:43.18 | halfhalo | HAHA |
| 03:43.33 | jhopixi | delete |
| 03:43.43 | halfhalo | i no rite? |
| 03:44.36 | jhopixi | looks for compressed air |
| 03:44.41 | jhopixi | muahahahahaha |
| 03:45.58 | halfhalo | oh AND the git repo is using it as well! tsk tsk tsk |
| 03:46.55 | jhopixi | wth ka6sox ?? |
| 03:47.02 | halfhalo | I know.... |
| 03:47.42 | halfhalo | I'll get the pitchforks! |
| 03:50.49 | ka6sox | jhopixi, wIRC...you always touch the gesture area on the pixi and activate muchtall |
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| 03:51.33 | jhopixi | that just sounds wrong |
| 03:51.41 | muchtall | Everything is going according to my plan! |
| 03:51.42 | halfhalo | i no, rite? |
| 03:51.54 | jhopixi | right now I am drawn into the 60 inch lcd |
| 03:52.01 | jhopixi | MUST ACQUIRE |
| 03:52.22 | ka6sox | jhopixi, I'll be rite there to claim it :D |
| 03:52.28 | jhopixi | oh it's only 2699 |
| 03:52.44 | egaudet | needs to make modules.mk build the damn kernel once and only once per kernel version per device |
| 03:53.05 | halfhalo | ok, how does the webos-patches site work? It looks like it would work in rails really well... |
| 03:53.16 | egaudet | dragons |
| 03:53.23 | ka6sox | halfhalo, don't go there. |
| 03:53.43 | ka6sox | dragons |
| 03:53.46 | jhopixi | egaudet: do it |
| 03:54.07 | jhopixi | or we can just wait for 145 and only build one |
| 03:54.18 | halfhalo | says the person who let the wiki and git archive run off apache |
| 03:54.31 | jhopixi | right now I build 6. 3 for pre and 3 for pixi |
| 03:54.55 | jhopixi | halfhalo: rails is the ghetto |
| 03:55.25 | jhopixi | oooo |
| 03:55.34 | halfhalo | ka6sox: you broke wargames... |
| 03:55.36 | jhopixi | wireless 1080p |
| 03:55.50 | halfhalo | and rails is stupid easy to build though |
| 03:56.12 | egaudet | jhopixi, yeah locally building 6 kernels is getting quite annoying lol |
| 03:56.35 | egaudet | (well uinput + aufs means 12 kernels) |
| 03:57.22 | ka6sox | halfhalo, probably....but then I havent' touched it in a week. |
| 03:57.22 | jhopixi | 18 if you split compcache out |
| 03:57.45 | egaudet | might take my strugging HDD a couple of days |
| 03:58.28 | jhopixi | mason |
| 03:59.57 | halfhalo | you didn't change the port on the client |
| 04:00.01 | halfhalo | or server crashed |
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| 04:01.40 | halfhalo | yup. making the patches portal in rails would take a day it looks like |
| 04:02.32 | jhopixi | go for it |
| 04:02.57 | halfhalo | I am, I just have to reset up nginx on my server |
| 04:03.06 | halfhalo | forgot to rebuild it with passenger support it looks like |
| 04:07.03 | halfhalo | tehre we go |
| 04:07.11 | halfhalo | rails-authorization-plugin |
| 04:10.42 | halfhalo | gogo new rails project |
| 04:11.41 | halfhalo | son of a monkey.... |
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| 04:12.57 | halfhalo | I blae jhopixi for nginx misconfig |
| 04:13.26 | jhopixi | whatever |
| 04:13.53 | halfhalo | forgot to add âprefix=/opt/nginx |
| 04:15.08 | halfhalo | BOOM BABY |
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| 04:41.49 | Mavoz | Hi Am new to WebOS...and trying to install Preware...have installed WebOS quick install...and closed it...am trying to restart it but can no longer find it in WIndows...what folder does it install to? |
| 04:46.09 | sugardave | Mavoz: it's been awhile since I used it on Windows, but it's just a .jar file I think, so search for Web*Quick*Install*jar and you should find it |
| 04:46.13 | sugardave | double-click to run |
| 04:53.01 | jhopixi | not sure how dust got into the camera. thought it was a sealed unit |
| 04:58.19 | Mavoz | Ok...thanks..am ow trying to install via Preware Advanced Homebrew iinstaller and errors: I think the problem is 'Palm Novacom'...how do you get Palm Novacom? |
| 04:59.25 | Mavoz | Windows tried to automatically find Palm Novacom but couldt |
| 04:59.32 | Mavoz | could not rather |
| 05:04.23 | jhopixi | need people to test out different cpu govenor settings warthog |
| 05:07.18 | ka6sox | conservative is nice...only 85ma draw. |
| 05:08.28 | jhopixi | slower than heck |
| 05:08.39 | jhopixi | what do you have it set to? |
| 05:08.46 | halfhalo | thats what she said |
| 05:08.54 | jhopixi | geez |
| 05:09.05 | jhopixi | I think halfhalo is 16 |
| 05:09.18 | halfhalo | nah, just really pissed |
| 05:09.31 | halfhalo | at myself |
| 05:09.42 | halfhalo | misspelled passenger in passenger_enabled |
| 05:10.49 | Mavoz | Ok..am trying to install WebOS quick install..managed to choose "Preware" option..chose "install"..installer says "Connecting to a device"...it also had said.."can't find device"....I think the problem is that there is no Palm Novacom service running? What does one do? |
| 05:13.03 | Mavoz | Should I quit "Connecting to a device"? |
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| 05:40.27 | tyler_wylie | /bin/sh: line 1: zip: command not found |
| 05:40.27 | tyler_wylie | make[1]: *** [build/pre-p100eww-sprint-1.4.1.1/.packed] Error 127 |
| 05:40.35 | tyler_wylie | zip is installed though |
| 05:42.59 | ka6sox | not in your path |
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| 06:12.25 | MiX-MaN | lol "RIM vs Jobs? By any chance could there be a happy ending?" |
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| 06:40.52 | halfhalo_srv | hmmm. how do i switch channels irssi |
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| 06:48.34 | ka6sox | halfhalo_srv, what, no bip? |
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| 07:04.53 | halfhalo_srv | figured it out |
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| 07:15.00 | jhojho | halfhalo: you still here? |
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| 08:36.17 | rwhitby | Govnah 0.5.8 is in the testing feed, with a fix for the hang bug. |
| 08:37.47 | bhuey | ok, good, was about to mention that |
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| 10:05.40 | noradtux | hi |
| 10:05.46 | noradtux | rwhitby: nice :) |
| 10:07.02 | noradtux | rwhitby: I made two patches working with webos 1.4.5: browser-mutli-mod and top-bar-system-menu-initial-framework |
| 10:08.01 | noradtux | rwhitby: both just need s/338/347/g |
| 10:08.30 | rwhitby | noradtux: excellent. we're close to having the new patches portal online |
| 10:09.05 | jhojho | rwhitby: did you see halfhalo say he was going to rewrite it in rails? |
| 10:09.33 | noradtux | I was _really_ missing those patches ;) |
| 10:09.53 | rwhitby | jhojho: I did not. |
| 10:10.42 | jhojho | yeah he sez he's on it =D |
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| 10:16.47 | rwhitby | looks like I need to work out how to get Govnah to say N/A for Compressed Swap settings when compcache is not available. |
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| 10:17.46 | noradtux | I am currently testing thew new govnah to see if it still hangs |
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| 10:21.02 | noradtux | rwhitby: how |
| 10:21.09 | noradtux | forget that .. |
| 10:53.04 | noradtux | govnah looks good by now |
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| 13:01.26 | swisstomcat | hey |
| 13:13.22 | pipsmith | hi |
| 13:17.31 | swisstomcat | hi |
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| 13:55.24 | shindso | how do I put my palm pre on develope mode |
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| 14:01.14 | shindso | how do I put my palm pre on developer mode |
| 14:03.37 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 14:03.47 | pipsmith | shindso: upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart |
| 14:04.14 | swisstomcat | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Getting_started#Enabling_Developer_Mode |
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| 14:20.28 | jhojho | #powertip: to prevent macs from dumping files that you delete into .Trashes and be able to delete right away, rm -rf .Trashes then touch .Trashes http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040121161137177 |
| 14:20.35 | jhojho | this should be a one shot app like EFF |
| 14:23.33 | egaudet | rm -rf /.Trashes/* ? |
| 14:24.04 | egaudet | oh nvm I see getting rid of the Trash bucket altogether |
| 14:24.11 | egaudet | living on the wild side :P |
| 14:24.30 | jhojho | rm -rf /media/internal/.Trashes |
| 14:25.00 | jhojho | unix is my os of choice. no babysitting needed or wanted =D |
| 14:25.08 | egaudet | unix eh |
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| 14:25.51 | egaudet | service babysitter off |
| 14:26.19 | egaudet | I'm paralellizing modules.mk |
| 14:32.47 | shindso | thanks |
| 14:34.40 | shindso | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.18 | swisstomcat | was that a question? |
| 14:35.31 | shindso | yes |
| 14:35.58 | swisstomcat | where to get it? |
| 14:36.06 | shindso | yes |
| 14:36.43 | swisstomcat | have you heard of google? :) |
| 14:36.50 | shindso | yes |
| 14:36.50 | swisstomcat | http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-software/228310-webos-quick-install-v3-14-a.html |
| 14:36.55 | shindso | thank |
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| 15:51.27 | bsm | hi, our university provides WLAN and uses some configuration that webOS does not support ( WPA Enterprise, TTLS/EAP ) so connecting via GUI does not work. howevery, I can trick the palm to connect to the network by providing a modified wpa_supplicant.conf and reloading the configuration via wpa_cli ( taken from debian ). |
| 15:52.11 | bsm | nevertheless, the webOS does not recognize this connection and so apps like the browser do not work althogh there is a connection available. |
| 15:52.45 | bsm | any ideas, hints or anything? IIRC PmNetConfigManager creates network connections? |
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| 15:59.32 | bsm | and since when is my root not mounted read only? mount gives me "rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)" after a fresh reboot.... |
| 16:04.08 | zsoc_wirc | you broke fstab |
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| 17:21.47 | halfhalo | hybjkl:?"> |
| 17:22.50 | ka6sox | halfhalo, I broke it...and was too tired last night to fix it. |
| 17:23.00 | halfhalo | ... |
| 17:23.26 | halfhalo | you only had to change two numbersâ¦. how did you break that |
| 17:28.32 | ka6sox | no, I rebooted mason, forgot to save the command history first :P |
| 17:28.44 | halfhalo | so the server isn't up? |
| 17:29.12 | ka6sox | well...the client isn't up |
| 17:29.12 | halfhalo | go into the folder and run node app.js to bring it back up |
| 17:29.55 | halfhalo | did you change the port in the client? |
| 17:30.09 | ka6sox | iirc you hid everythign in some .blah dir. |
| 17:30.47 | halfhalo | your useless, you know that? :p |
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| 17:33.26 | ka6sox | halfhalo, only when I haven't had my coffee. |
| 17:33.28 | ka6sox | :P |
| 17:33.43 | halfhalo | you don't get coffee much, do you⦠:p |
| 17:34.36 | halfhalo | off to see the wizard, the wonderfull wizard of trying to make a patches portal in rails |
| 17:35.02 | ka6sox | heh....that was a week ago...and I've been on holiday :P |
| 17:35.17 | halfhalo | suuuuure |
| 17:35.34 | halfhalo | im on vacation in one week |
| 17:35.51 | ka6sox | okay hang around till you remind me of a library name so I can get to the right directory |
| 17:36.18 | halfhalo | ugh. fiiiiiiine |
| 17:43.27 | ka6sox | halfhalo, a library name please? |
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| 17:43.58 | halfhalo | fffffffffffffffffff⦠something to do with wargames? |
| 17:44.19 | Jakeeeee | yo word. |
| 17:44.44 | ka6sox | halfhalo, that would help....I doubt something to do with patch portal would help. |
| 17:44.50 | ka6sox | :D |
| 17:45.31 | halfhalo | yeah, but I could have said something like system32 |
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| 17:46.35 | Jakeeeee | system32 isn't important |
| 17:47.04 | Jakeeeee | in fact in deleted my usr folder last week |
| 17:47.10 | Jakeeeee | phone is much faster :P |
| 17:47.40 | halfhalo | "where all my stuff?!?" "its in system32" "But this is a linux machine" "so?" "they don't have system32 folders" "WHAT TYPE OF MACHINE DOESNT HAVE ASYSTEM32 FOLDER?!?" "one thats stable" "ohâ¦. well then" |
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| 17:49.46 | Jakeeeee | so guys how about all these new 3D games |
| 17:49.51 | halfhalo | ugg, im going to bed |
| 17:51.35 | ka6sox | halfhalo, you not gone to bed yet? |
| 17:51.47 | ka6sox | no wonder you're cranky. |
| 17:53.05 | halfhalo | i did. im just going back to sleep |
| 17:53.42 | Jakeeeee | hmm |
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| 18:03.22 | cryptk | hola everyone |
| 18:03.57 | halfhalo | smacks cryptk and yells "keep it down! were trying to sleep!" |
| 18:04.31 | cryptk | lol |
| 18:06.13 | cryptk | so, I have several small form factor devices... they all need to run linux.. amongst them there are 4 different architectures... and I have to do it all from scratch |
| 18:06.22 | cryptk | I am working on the linux build for the second device now... |
| 18:06.33 | cryptk | glibc compiling... again... |
| 18:06.52 | ka6sox | hiya cryptk |
| 18:06.59 | cryptk | sup ka6sox |
| 18:07.02 | cryptk | hows the server doin? |
| 18:07.15 | ka6sox | better...and getting better all the time :D |
| 18:07.23 | cryptk | I heard that it turned out that it was the controller |
| 18:07.30 | cryptk | at least I think that is what I heard |
| 18:10.23 | cryptk | luckily these are pretty stripped down copies of linux... no GUI's, no real anything, they just need everything that is required to boot and run a binary |
| 18:10.27 | ka6sox | I ordered one yesterday? (or was it the previous day?) too much going on. |
| 18:10.47 | cryptk | so pretty much a kernel... linker... shell... a few libraries and some locales |
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| 18:12.26 | cryptk | still no 1.4.5 for sprint... :( |
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| 18:16.34 | halfhalo_srv | my lazyness knows no bounds... |
| 18:17.35 | halfhalo_srv | sitting on couch using irssi because i cant be arsed to get a laptop with irc on it |
| 18:22.00 | torchie | dies. |
| 18:22.08 | torchie | half: on the phone? |
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| 18:27.39 | ka6sox | okay I will try again... |
| 18:27.47 | ka6sox | Node wargames.js? |
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| 18:30.54 | ka6sox | I know what it is....halfhalo_srv is overheating....106 in Winnetka today :P |
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| 19:05.05 | halfhalo_srv | rexwwzsextfvygbyyiunyubtrcesxrdybugbtcftv |
| 19:06.11 | halfhalo_srv | frfrdrexrecrgrffexwxesceecrvjrgbtrvrvdvrdcrdvdtvhrdcrdchrdncdecdcbde bescbescbsecescsedrcrdcrdrdbbnned bed nedcnescnescnecnescn |
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| 19:08.08 | cryptk | halfhalo_srv: are you butt IRC'ing? |
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| 19:10.01 | halfhalo_srv | no, spaz ircing |
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| 19:10.19 | halfhalo_srv | doesnt really worj well on a touch kb |
| 19:10.33 | cryptk | haha |
| 19:10.40 | cryptk | anyways, I gtg, bbiab |
| 19:12.52 | ka6sox | sends halfhalo_srv some Ice...the formula of which the Europeans don't seem to have. |
| 19:13.04 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 19:13.12 | swisstomcat | we have glaciers |
| 19:18.34 | sugardave | halfhalo_srv: ignoring me, I see....that's okay! |
| 19:26.50 | halfhalo_srv | sugardave: naw, just not logged into webos on the ipad right now. and jot really payng attention to irssi either |
| 19:26.59 | ka6sox | looks thru logs and can't find the port # that halfhalo, halfhalo_pre said for the client :P |
| 19:27.37 | ka6sox | I'm trying to change the 2 lines. |
| 19:28.18 | ka6sox | halfhalo_srv, 8261? |
| 19:28.52 | halfhalo | any random port should work |
| 19:30.07 | ka6sox | kk |
| 19:30.25 | ka6sox | and its: node war-games.js? |
| 19:30.57 | halfhalo | yeah |
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| 19:52.58 | SineOt | I've done some limited testing with the Warthog Kernel on the Pixi, with CompCache enabled at 24mb: the msm7k, conservative, and powersave governors basically turn the phone unusable |
| 19:55.42 | ka6sox | SineOt, thanks for the feedback... |
| 19:57.12 | SineOt | it seems that it won't go past the 122mhz step |
| 19:58.03 | ka6sox | you tried bringing up an app like preware and its still stuck there? |
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| 19:58.26 | SineOt | yup |
| 19:58.39 | ka6sox | SineOt, I assume you have Govnah running. |
| 19:58.51 | SineOt | when switching between the two with the advanced swipe gesture, I can watch everything move over at like 5fps |
| 19:58.52 | SineOt | yes |
| 19:59.01 | SineOt | which is where I'm watching the CPU speed |
| 19:59.02 | ka6sox | oh, make sure you are updated to the latest Govnah 0.5.8 |
| 19:59.46 | ka6sox | there is a memory leak before that version. |
| 19:59.46 | ka6sox | its in the testing feeds. |
| 20:00.06 | ka6sox | and compcache of 16MB is usually sufficient (for my pixi) |
| 20:00.43 | ka6sox | before you do that 2 questions: |
| 20:00.51 | ka6sox | 1) what is the load |
| 20:00.51 | SineOt | I've had issues where without any cards open I'll get the too many cards error, so I bumped it to 24mb |
| 20:00.54 | SineOt | haven't seen any since |
| 20:01.10 | ka6sox | 2) what is the memory situation right now according to Govnah. |
| 20:01.35 | SineOt | let me check, Govnah is updating |
| 20:01.43 | SineOt | brb |
| 20:01.51 | ka6sox | kk |
| 20:02.25 | jhojho | its 0.5.9 now |
| 20:02.48 | ka6sox | okay jhojho is the master...listen to him (I'm so last 20 minutes) |
| 20:16.52 | ka6sox | SineOt, if you had a memory leak that would cause the pixi to become unhappy and give you TMC |
| 20:17.35 | ka6sox | as far as the CPU speed issue, mine spends a LOT of time in 122 but when I ask for an app it scales pretty quickly |
| 20:18.12 | ka6sox | but I would set up 16MB of compcache. |
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| 20:25.02 | SineOt | from playing with it, I couldn't get it to scale using the msm7k, conservative, and powersave governors |
| 20:25.13 | SineOt | it just sat at 122 |
| 20:25.52 | SineOt | right now on ondemandtcl with compache 24, it says... load average is 9.33 8.39 4.04 |
| 20:26.25 | jhojho | you probably need to set the min speed to something higher while testing something other than ondemandtcl |
| 20:26.27 | ka6sox | SineOt, ya, same here now |
| 20:26.44 | ka6sox | running a preware update and its stuck @ 122mhz |
| 20:27.36 | SineOt | what exactly is conseritive, msm7k, and powersave supposed to do? |
| 20:27.50 | SineOt | just stick it at the lowest speed and not adjust? |
| 20:28.05 | ka6sox | They are different governors that scale differently based on demands. |
| 20:28.23 | SineOt | but I'm not seeing them scale at all :x |
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| 20:31.06 | SineOt | although I guess that's why people are testing it |
| 20:34.36 | ka6sox | SineOt, yes, thanks for your insightful input...its helpful. |
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| 20:39.28 | halfhalo | fzdsjn |
| 20:39.33 | halfhalo | tooooo hot |
| 20:40.02 | SineOt | haha, yes it is. it's 85F inside right now, it's miserable |
| 20:41.33 | ka6sox | SineOt, are you in the Valley? |
| 20:41.51 | SineOt | north Orange County |
| 20:41.52 | halfhalo | it is⦠90 in my room |
| 20:41.54 | halfhalo | dies |
| 20:42.04 | SineOt | I've learned to avoid the valley in summer |
| 20:43.44 | ka6sox | SineOt, I grew up in HB and Goat Hill. |
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| 20:43.58 | ka6sox | Goat Hill = CM. |
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| 20:51.38 | SineOt | oh, cool |
| 20:51.44 | SineOt | Huntington Beach is cool |
| 20:52.21 | halfhalo | temp in granada hills is currentlyâ¦. 102f |
| 20:52.24 | halfhalo | god. dammit. |
| 20:53.14 | ka6sox | 6th and Main |
| 20:53.48 | ka6sox | halfhalo, GH is like always too hot... |
| 20:54.02 | halfhalo | yeah, but this is retarted |
| 20:54.04 | ka6sox | it isn't like too hot..it *is* too hot. |
| 20:54.19 | halfhalo | its _cooler_ in the middle of the valley by like 5f |
| 20:54.26 | ka6sox | yup |
| 20:54.33 | halfhalo | pool is in my immediate future |
| 20:54.38 | ka6sox | Van Nuys is 5deg cooler. |
| 20:54.57 | SineOt | same |
| 20:55.09 | SineOt | after this skype call I'm going for the pool like mad |
| 20:55.20 | ka6sox | I'm headed to the pool in like 10 minutes. |
| 20:55.28 | ka6sox | SineOt, later lets troubleshoot these governors. |
| 20:55.31 | SineOt | and yeah, my girlfriend used to live out in Riverside... and today it's 106 |
| 20:55.32 | SineOt | sure |
| 20:55.52 | ka6sox | ewww...riverside...always 10deg hotter. |
| 20:56.22 | halfhalo | lol |
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| 22:09.48 | jhojho | does anyone know how to input ñ on the pre? |
| 22:10.05 | halfhalo | magic markers |
| 22:10.38 | SineOt | sym-n, should be the first option |
| 22:10.45 | SineOt | if that's and I think it is |
| 22:11.44 | jhojho | yes |
| 22:16.28 | halfhalo | srgmmfht,gyj.huklp;' |
| 22:19.07 | jhojho | halfhalo: okay so I did more research last night. how about the WNDR3700 or the asus RT-N16? |
| 22:19.21 | jhojho | WNDR3700 is atheros... |
| 22:19.28 | halfhalo | asus is nice |
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| 22:32.07 | torchie | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.11 | SineOt | too bad my pixi drops 3g if I grab the bottom :T |
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