| 00:00.47 | rwhitby | pipsmith: what is the application id of the recovery kernel that you are installing with Preware? |
| 00:02.25 | pipsmith | rwhitby: org.webosinternals.kernels.palm-kernel-pre |
| 00:02.59 | pipsmith | Would you like me to uninstall uberkernel and re-run the recovery? |
| 00:03.37 | rwhitby | pipsmith: uninstall any that you can uninstall, and then install recovery |
| 00:04.00 | rwhitby | pipsmith: have you run the recovery with only one kernel installed? |
| 00:05.09 | pipsmith | Ok. yes i run the recovery before i ever installed uber on top, i only installed uber for a test to see if it would apply |
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| 00:06.39 | pipsmith | can't uninstall thunder, uninstalling uber, will then re instal recovery. |
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| 00:06.44 | rwhitby | pipsmith: when you install recovery, hit Later for the reboot, get the ipkg log from the menu, email it to yourself, and pastebin it |
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| 00:22.49 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Uninstalled uberkernel, rebooted, installed palm recovery, rebooted, F105 still appears installed and indicates the .74 update is ready for it. |
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| 00:26.35 | halfhalo_pre | sooo... wirc 0.30 doesnt work for me |
| 00:26.58 | egaudet | lol |
| 00:27.24 | halfhalo_pre | resorting to ssh plus irssi |
| 00:27.44 | egaudet | ? |
| 00:27.56 | halfhalo_pre | for irc |
| 00:28.01 | egaudet | webos 1.4.1? |
| 00:28.11 | halfhalo_pre | 1.4.5 |
| 00:28.14 | rwhitby | pipsmith: did you get the ipkg log from the recovery install |
| 00:28.20 | egaudet | OTA to 1.4.5? |
| 00:28.30 | halfhalo_pre | no |
| 00:28.40 | egaudet | well wirc works |
| 00:29.11 | pipsmith | rwhitby: how do I get it? |
| 00:29.13 | halfhalo_pre | it connects, but the channel views never load up. they stay blank |
| 00:29.35 | rwhitby | pipsmith: when you install recovery, hit Later for the reboot, get the ipkg log from the menu, email it to yourself, and pastebin it |
| 00:29.42 | egaudet | when you connect to a channel? |
| 00:29.56 | pipsmith | Certainly, 2 secs |
| 00:30.19 | halfhalo_pre | yeah. it connect, but the launched card never populates with messages/users/etc |
| 00:31.57 | egaudet | hmm |
| 00:33.23 | halfhalo_pre | arg. bbl |
| 00:35.14 | pipsmith | rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/ejMgdNf6 |
| 00:35.27 | pipsmith | Can i reboot my pre now? |
| 00:37.52 | rwhitby | pipsmith: one minute |
| 00:40.52 | rwhitby | pipsmith: ah, ok. it seems the recovery kernel does not remove the installation records of the other kernels |
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| 00:41.40 | rwhitby | pipsmith: try installing F105 now |
| 00:42.23 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Do you mean updating or removing? I can't install as it already believes it is installed |
| 00:42.37 | rwhitby | updating |
| 00:44.52 | pipsmith | pastebin the log? |
| 00:46.14 | pipsmith | rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/TQLqhLL3 |
| 00:49.21 | rwhitby | pipsmith: ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps remove org.webosinternals.kernels.psycho-f105-kernel-pre |
| 00:51.26 | pipsmith | rwhitby: ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps remove org.webosinternals.kernels.psycho-f105-kernel-pre Removing package org.webosinternals.kernels.psycho-f105-kernel-pre from root... (offline root mode: not running org.webosinternals.kernels.psycho-f105-kernel-pre.prerm) |
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| 00:54.43 | rwhitby | pipsmith: now update feeds in preware |
| 00:54.57 | pipsmith | No kernels installed |
| 00:55.02 | rwhitby | (no need to run the prerm, cause the recovery kernel removed all that) |
| 00:55.23 | rwhitby | I would suggest installing and uninstalling f105 now, to make sure it is away clean |
| 00:55.33 | rwhitby | then you're good to go |
| 00:55.47 | pipsmith | Already applying f105 |
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| 01:01.52 | oil | rwhitby: you get that ipkgservice pushed to normal git now that its back up? |
| 01:02.56 | pipsmith | f105 applied and running normally. Now removing f105 to test everything goes smooth. |
| 01:03.33 | rwhitby | pipsmith: I will need to add some code to the recovery kernel to forcibly uninstall other kernel packages as well as just overwriting their files |
| 01:04.09 | rwhitby | oil: pushed, thanks for the reminder |
| 01:04.33 | oil | starts ubuntu vm to see if he remembers how to build it xD |
| 01:05.59 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Thought that is what you were going to say. Need me to test once the code is changed? |
| 01:06.16 | rwhitby | pipsmith: nah, that's an easy one to test thanks |
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| 01:11.26 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Final report, f105 uninstalled and back at stock. Working perfectly. Now to get back overclocked and do some testing. |
| 01:12.05 | rwhitby | ok |
| 01:12.15 | rwhitby | pipsmith: thx for being an effective alpha tester |
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| 01:15.49 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Thanks for developing Preware, uberkernel etc, save/restore etc |
| 01:17.26 | rwhitby | pipsmith: it's a team effort |
| 01:19.27 | pipsmith | rwhitby: But there is also a personal commitment from each team member and that should be recognised |
| 01:29.48 | bpadalino | rwhitby is just the face everyone loves |
| 01:29.54 | bpadalino | his accent helps, too |
| 01:33.04 | oil | remembers people commenting on how he said webos :) |
| 01:33.20 | oil | he as in rwhitby that is |
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| 01:40.13 | Mercury | What's up with the server? |
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| 01:59.46 | rwhitby | most things are up |
| 02:00.51 | halfhalo | ok, time to figure out this parsing stuff |
| 02:01.25 | bpadalino | make a recursive descent parser |
| 02:01.45 | zsoc | bpadalino: i was just doing that this morning |
| 02:02.03 | halfhalo | it works fine save for like 3 packages where its not working on the Source field. Everywhere else it works |
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| 02:04.32 | halfhalo | I can't figure out why its not workingâ¦. grrr |
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| 02:10.15 | halfhalo | bingo⦠the json is being escaped but is being properly made⦠why the hell is it doing that though... |
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| 02:16.02 | Audemars02 | rwhitby: i see that you had updated save/restore to 0.9.9 yesterday, but havent seen it in the testing feed yet...any idea when it will be updated? |
| 02:18.38 | halfhalo | its tabs... |
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| 02:20.25 | rwhitby | Audemars02: when the autobuilder boots again |
| 02:20.36 | rwhitby | it's being recalcitrant |
| 02:22.13 | Audemars02 | if i were to do a "git pull" and then a palm-package, would i be able to install it myself (since i have an older version on my device already, i imagine it would work without having to run all the extra scripts, right? |
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| 02:23.54 | rwhitby | you need the new version of the service executable |
| 02:27.10 | hborders | I'm very disappointed that palm isn't allowing .so's into pdk apps |
| 02:27.30 | Audemars02 | rwhitby: ok... will have to wait for autobuilder to run. any guess as to when that will happen? want to give people an update |
| 02:27.31 | zsoc | hborders: they didn't directly say that |
| 02:27.41 | zsoc | hborders: besides, there's no reason why you can't statically compile |
| 02:27.43 | zsoc | generally |
| 02:28.08 | hborders | "If you need other libraries, you should build them yourself and statically link them with your application." |
| 02:28.19 | rwhitby | Audemars02: autobuilder instance is not booting |
| 02:28.29 | hborders | zsoc: they did say exactly that |
| 02:28.37 | zsoc | hborders: Right, it's a suggestion. |
| 02:29.17 | hborders | zsoc: I disagree. "At this time, weâre only allowing applications in the catalog that use the set of libraries we provide with the PDK." |
| 02:29.46 | hborders | zsoc: I'm not saying they won't allow them later, but they're not allowing them to start, and that is frustrating |
| 02:30.08 | zsoc | hborders: they are simply saying you can't dynamically link to libraries already on the device that are not whitelisted |
| 02:30.11 | halfhalo | i blame oil for autobuilder. |
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| 02:31.35 | hborders | zsoc: well, I hope that is true, but that's not how I read the post. I don't want to spend a week of my evenings trying to get openssl to build a static lib |
| 02:31.40 | oil | takes no blame |
| 02:31.58 | datafirm | is there a palm pre plus teardown? I could not find one. |
| 02:32.53 | zsoc | hborders: I'm not saying your're wrong. The answer is, they haven't ruled out dynamically linked /shipped/ libraries, they just don't want you doing it in most instances at the moment because they are unsure of the security implications |
| 02:33.58 | zsoc | hborders: statically compiling openssl can't possibly be very complicated |
| 02:34.31 | zsoc | it's a very common lib to include static |
| 02:34.54 | hborders | zsoc: I'm still new to C development, so I'm not great at deciphering configure scripts |
| 02:35.25 | hborders | zsoc: the problem is that openssl has a series of predefined platform/arch settings and cortex-a8-linux is not on it |
| 02:35.57 | zsoc | hborders: what about armv7? |
| 02:36.02 | bpadalino | isn't openssl already precompiled on the device ? |
| 02:36.22 | hborders | bpadalino: only as a .so, and its not whitelisted |
| 02:37.48 | marfpilf | anyone ever have any problems with KeyBoss not recognizing the Userspace Input Module? |
| 02:38.27 | hborders | zsoc: nope. just linux-armv4 |
| 02:38.32 | zsoc | why are you using those predefined settings |
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| 02:39.01 | zsoc | hborders: linux-elf-arm should work |
| 02:40.25 | hborders | zsoc: there is none. they only have linux-elf for ia32 |
| 02:41.06 | zsoc | use a difference version? |
| 02:41.19 | hborders | this is the configuration for linux-armv4: |
| 02:41.20 | hborders | #config-string $cc : $cflags : $unistd : $thread_cflag : $sys_id : $lflags : $bn_ops : $cpuid_obj : $bn_obj : $des_obj : $aes_obj : $bf_obj : $md5_obj : $sha1_obj : $cast_obj : $rc4_obj : $rmd160_obj : $rc5_obj : $wp_obj : $cmll_obj : $dso_scheme : $shared_target : $shared_cflag : $shared_ldflag : $shared_extension : $ranlib : $arflags : $multilib |
| 02:41.21 | zsoc | what about 0.9.7? |
| 02:41.29 | hborders | "linux-armv4", "gcc:-DTERMIO -O3 -Wall::-D_REENTRANT::-ldl:BN_LLONG RC4_CHAR RC4_CHUNK DES_INT DES_UNROLL BF_PTR:${armv4_asm}:dlfcn:linux-shared:-fPIC::.so.\$(SHLIB_MAJOR).\$(SHLIB_MINOR)" |
| 02:42.08 | rwhitby | datafirm: haven't seen a pre plus teardown, but I did a pre teardown and it should be the same except for the memory package-on-package on the omap |
| 02:42.15 | zsoc | hborders: oh, it was replaced with linux-generic32 |
| 02:42.28 | zsoc | it's amazing what you can find out from mailing lists :) |
| 02:42.30 | hborders | zsoc: where did you find that? |
| 02:42.45 | zsoc | http://old.nabble.com/linux-elf-arm-configuration-option-missing-td6540287.html |
| 02:42.57 | zsoc | and endian shouldn't matter so much, pretty sure webos devices are biendian |
| 02:43.01 | halfhalo | ahahahaha⦠got it working |
| 02:43.20 | hborders | zsoc: :) thanks. A letmegooglethatforyou.com link would have been appropriate as well. :) |
| 02:43.39 | zsoc | hborders: Yeah, I'm not mean like oil |
| 02:43.43 | zsoc | I'm going to get back to my mess of a project. |
| 02:44.00 | hborders | thanks so much for your help |
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| 02:45.31 | zsoc | hborders: and your right, looks like they decided to auto reject any app that dynamically links /anything/ not on the whitelist |
| 02:45.54 | zsoc | well this puts a crimp in my parade |
| 02:46.02 | zsoc | I wonder if my app will come under 100mb |
| 02:46.06 | hborders | lol |
| 02:46.13 | marfpilf | just donated 10 bucks to you guys (sorry it's so little). Thanks so much for PreWare and all the sweet apps/patches. |
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| 02:47.17 | bpadalino | every little bit helps |
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| 02:48.46 | TheSavaLord | I been tweeting with users who said they are having issues with warthog but it seems like the problem is with govnah 0.5.6 |
| 02:51.23 | TheSavaLord | so make sure the bug is with the right app/kernel |
| 02:51.42 | oil | would lmgtfy people in real life if he could |
| 02:52.09 | TheSavaLord | how have you been oil |
| 02:52.17 | oil | not mad |
| 02:52.19 | oil | er |
| 02:52.19 | oil | bad |
| 02:52.19 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: anyone who leaves govnah running is not doing correct kernel testing anyway |
| 02:54.52 | TheSavaLord | rwhitby the issue was as soon as they try deleting or adding a profile in govnah the phone crashes. so they blamed warthog because that was the last thing they installed |
| 02:55.39 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: I'm not aware of a bug like that in govnah |
| 02:55.46 | datafirm | rwhitby: so the memory package is on top of the OMAP? |
| 02:56.08 | rwhitby | datafirm: yes, that's the case with all OMAP devices as far as I know |
| 02:56.32 | TheSavaLord | maybe a new one then I will retweet it to @webosinternals if you want me too |
| 02:56.34 | datafirm | rwhitby: thanks. |
| 02:57.13 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: is it repeatable? |
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| 03:01.51 | TheSavaLord | man that wirc bug erks me |
| 03:02.14 | halfhalo | wirc doesn't work for me... |
| 03:02.27 | halfhalo | cries |
| 03:02.33 | oil | wirc bug? |
| 03:02.37 | oil | 030? |
| 03:02.42 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: is the govnah profile thing repeatable? |
| 03:02.43 | halfhalo | yeah⦠|
| 03:03.01 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: and does it go away when using stable release of govnah? |
| 03:03.20 | TheSavaLord | Jabrilli said he has repeated it |
| 03:03.58 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: I mean repeatable without leaving govnah running at 1 second polling for 1000 seconds |
| 03:04.31 | TheSavaLord | I never tried 5.6 with the new warthog because of the bug I found before trying warthog |
| 03:05.02 | rwhitby | TheSavaLord: if someone starts govnah with polling set at 1 minute, and can repeat a profile applying bug, then I want to know about it. otherwise I'm assuming it's the known bug which can be easily worked around by not polling at 1 second intervals for a long period. |
| 03:05.26 | rwhitby | and which won't be fixed in the next coupe of days, so people either need to not leave it open, or use the stable version |
| 03:06.07 | TheSavaLord | I understand. the way he was talking as soon as he deleted or added a profile it crashed |
| 03:06.32 | TheSavaLord | so I don't think it was the same bug I had |
| 03:07.28 | TheSavaLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.45 | TheSavaLord | Oil: same bug that has always been there. the wirc is not running. but still connected. |
| 03:10.19 | TheSavaLord | not using the new wirc yet |
| 03:12.19 | halfhalo | done! |
| 03:13.58 | halfhalo | http://silentbluesystems.com/random/package.html |
| 03:14.37 | TheSavaLord | I would use the new wirc if I had 1.4.5 |
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| 03:15.22 | halfhalo | the new wirc don't wirc for meâ¦. :( |
| 03:15.49 | TheSavaLord | do you have 1.4.5 |
| 03:15.54 | halfhalo | yeah |
| 03:16.11 | TheSavaLord | lucky |
| 03:24.18 | oil | oh |
| 03:24.26 | oil | yeah, thats fixed in 030 TheSavaLord |
| 03:24.57 | TheSavaLord | but then I don't have webos 1.4.5 lol |
| 03:25.15 | halfhalo | for some reason in 030 the channel views will not properly be created. Their justâ¦. empty save for the send box and button |
| 03:25.48 | oil | oh |
| 03:26.15 | oil | you have steps to recreate the empty channel thing? |
| 03:26.35 | halfhalo | yes. launch. connect to server. |
| 03:26.36 | halfhalo | thats it |
| 03:26.56 | oil | and errors in var/log/messages? |
| 03:27.12 | halfhalo | that involves a cordâ¦.. gah |
| 03:27.29 | oil | well ive never seen it |
| 03:27.37 | oil | so i can't do anything about it without some logs |
| 03:27.43 | halfhalo | while im getting cord look at prettyness: http://silentbluesystems.com/random/package.html |
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| 03:28.44 | oil | its a little.... |
| 03:28.47 | oil | ugly? |
| 03:28.59 | halfhalo | better than nothing |
| 03:29.06 | halfhalo | and done using js and json |
| 03:29.31 | oil | like preware? :) |
| 03:29.55 | halfhalo | this lets me view em in the broswer. does preware? no |
| 03:30.08 | oil | webos the browser, yeah |
| 03:30.15 | halfhalo | and there is error in log, but I need to install novacom to get to itâ¦. |
| 03:30.18 | halfhalo | :/ |
| 03:31.44 | halfhalo | gogo sdk download! |
| 03:32.26 | halfhalo | 9 minutesâ¦. to longâ¦. I'll just type it |
| 03:32.57 | oil | well, line, message |
| 03:33.02 | oil | i dont need the date or any of that crap |
| 03:33.34 | halfhalo | EXCEPTION [channel-chat#updateList],(typerror):"Cannot call method 'getLength' of undefined" |
| 03:34.30 | halfhalo | 20 bucks says typo |
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| 03:37.01 | oil | that doesn't make any sense |
| 03:37.33 | oil | var start = this.messageListElement.mojo.getLength(); |
| 03:37.44 | oil | unless |
| 03:37.49 | oil | it gets called before setup is called |
| 03:37.58 | oil | is completed* |
| 03:38.02 | halfhalo | installing sdk now.... |
| 03:38.20 | halfhalo | damn, vb installed fast |
| 03:38.26 | halfhalo | like⦠3 seconds fast |
| 03:38.46 | oil | will push a fix, you can download and palm-package/palm-install it |
| 03:38.53 | halfhalo | kk |
| 03:39.15 | oil | activate is after setup, right? |
| 03:39.23 | halfhalo | I do believe so |
| 03:39.55 | TheSavaLord | wish they would release 1.4.5.1 |
| 03:41.05 | Anivrom | oh yea. I have an article about that. |
| 03:41.27 | oil | halfhalo: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/wIRC.git;a=snapshot;h=07caadb1be00102b94d8ab583e207d42777ed5b9;sf=tgz |
| 03:41.43 | oil | extract/palm-package/palm-install |
| 03:41.48 | Anivrom | Reason it's delayed is apparently a bug with pdk apps |
| 03:41.49 | oil | or i could up an ipk if thats easier |
| 03:41.59 | halfhalo | nah, I just did a git pull |
| 03:42.05 | oil | ah :) |
| 03:43.03 | TheSavaLord | yeah I seen about the bug before |
| 03:43.05 | oil | anyways, that should fix it |
| 03:43.12 | halfhalo | lets see... |
| 03:43.55 | halfhalo | woops⦠did a palm-install while it was running |
| 03:44.06 | halfhalo | its mad at me now |
| 03:44.09 | TheSavaLord | lol |
| 03:45.16 | egaudet | just do it again |
| 03:45.29 | egaudet | if you do it while it's running do it twice |
| 03:46.17 | halfhalo | thats effort |
| 03:46.25 | oil | lol |
| 03:46.27 | halfhalo | less effort is rebooting and getting snacks |
| 03:46.32 | oil | what |
| 03:46.39 | oil | thats like 10x more effort |
| 03:46.49 | oil | though may be worth it depending on snacks |
| 03:47.34 | halfhalo | salted peanuts, torilla chips, sharp cheddar chees |
| 03:48.25 | oil | not healthy and no cooking required, good choices |
| 03:48.30 | halfhalo | yup! |
| 03:49.16 | TheSavaLord | lays cajub herb & spices chips |
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| 03:49.37 | halfhalo | boom |
| 03:49.38 | halfhalo | works |
| 03:50.28 | halfhalo_class | hooa |
| 03:51.04 | oil | loo |
| 03:51.08 | oil | l |
| 03:53.02 | TheSavaLord | rwhitby I can't repeat that bug so it's not an issue on my pre+ |
| 03:55.00 | oil | well i changed the code elsewhere\ |
| 03:55.07 | oil | other places where that race condition could be trouble |
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| 03:56.04 | halfhalo | effort! |
| 04:00.07 | oil | try sending yourself a file :) |
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| 04:00.30 | oil | but hte list is ugly (i have yet to mess with it) |
| 04:00.41 | halfhalo | adium don't like files |
| 04:00.48 | zsoc | Any GNUld experts around? |
| 04:00.50 | oil | and it doesn't always work inter-network |
| 04:01.14 | oil | for me at least |
| 04:01.49 | halfhalo | nao, adium don't work with it |
| 04:01.59 | oil | sends file so halfhalo can test it? |
| 04:02.03 | halfhalo | doit |
| 04:02.07 | oil | which nick? |
| 04:02.12 | halfhalo | class |
| 04:02.23 | halfhalo | pre is irssi runnign in screen im to lazy to kill |
| 04:03.18 | halfhalo | shinyâ¦if it actually sends it |
| 04:03.33 | oil | i can never get it to work when i send to myself |
| 04:03.36 | oil | but puffy can |
| 04:03.39 | oil | and it works when he sends to me |
| 04:03.49 | halfhalo | its sitting at 0/72422 |
| 04:03.54 | oil | yeah |
| 04:03.57 | oil | its not going to work |
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| 04:05.42 | halfhalo | firewall maybe? |
| 04:05.50 | oil | yeah, i have no clue |
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| 04:08.40 | datafirm | hi. is there a way to update PRL from the CLI? |
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| 04:13.25 | halfhalo | hmmm |
| 04:13.35 | halfhalo | im getting dual dcc chat popups in wirc |
| 04:14.27 | halfhalo | now getting 3 for a file transfer... |
| 04:14.36 | oil | lol |
| 04:15.06 | halfhalo | andâ¦. it failed |
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| 04:16.50 | halfhalo | yup, dual file transfer popups as well |
| 04:16.53 | halfhalo | but it worked |
| 04:17.42 | halfhalo | brb |
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| 04:31.11 | rwhitby | datafirm: in general no-one here knows much at all about the modem side of things. we tend to stay away from it, as there are both technical and legal dragons there. |
| 04:31.32 | datafirm | OK, sorry for the posts. |
| 04:31.42 | rwhitby | datafirm: your best bet is to decompile the doctor jar and see what it does |
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| 04:32.01 | datafirm | sounds good. :) |
| 04:32.10 | rwhitby | there's a stage in there which updates the PRL |
| 04:32.18 | datafirm | i actually found it. |
| 04:32.22 | datafirm | just need the latest file. |
| 04:33.40 | rwhitby | datafirm: com/palm/nova/installer/core/stages/ModemUpdateStage.class |
| 04:34.05 | datafirm | cool. I just need to decompile the jar. |
| 04:34.07 | rwhitby | and you'll find carrier specific stuff in the carrier tarball in the relevant doctor |
| 04:34.08 | datafirm | ? |
| 04:34.18 | rwhitby | I use JD-GUI on a mac |
| 04:34.38 | rwhitby | the meta-doctor makefile has a linux decompiler i it |
| 04:34.41 | hborders | I got openssl compiled into a static lib. |
| 04:34.57 | hborders | zsoc: thanks! I got openssl compiled into a static lib |
| 04:35.42 | halfhalo | shazam |
| 04:36.05 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 04:36.08 | zsoc | lol @ the quit right after |
| 04:36.41 | oil | thats what we need for wirc xD |
| 04:36.43 | halfhalo | its because they dont like you |
| 04:38.37 | datafirm | rwhitby: This is great! Thanks so much! Learned a lot these last few days. |
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| 04:41.30 | datafirm | If I wanted to add/change Tokens, you have to unpack a meta-doctor and then edit castle and then repack and load? |
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| 04:48.14 | cdm | There is an easier way |
| 04:48.20 | cdm | just not sure if anyone has figured it out yet. :) |
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| 04:48.26 | halfhalo | does it involve fire? |
| 04:49.02 | cdm | nope, just trenchcoat |
| 04:49.09 | halfhalo | then it fails |
| 04:51.12 | datafirm | ok |
| 04:56.54 | datafirm | to unpack, do you just # make CARRIER=name unpack ? |
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| 05:28.01 | zsoc | chuqui: heyooo |
| 05:28.12 | chuqui | hodee ho |
| 05:29.07 | zsoc | how's life |
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| 06:15.46 | oil | http://i32.tinypic.com/15d6utu.png :D |
| 06:16.05 | halfhalo | lol |
| 06:16.07 | halfhalo | in git? |
| 06:16.43 | oil | yeah |
| 06:16.54 | oil | but you'll need to build/install the new service |
| 06:16.57 | oil | for the filepicker to work |
| 06:17.12 | halfhalo | that sounds like effort |
| 06:17.17 | oil | oh, its a pita |
| 06:17.18 | oil | lol |
| 06:17.26 | oil | i had to bust out my ubuntu vm to get it done |
| 06:17.40 | halfhalo | i dont have any vms right now |
| 06:17.55 | oil | im sure rwhitby will want to stick it in the testing feeds when he sees that ive added this portion of it |
| 06:17.59 | halfhalo | since the last two dvd images i got were gad and i havent gotten around to it yet |
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| 06:20.30 | halfhalo | does internals have a bug tracker? |
| 06:20.45 | oil | git.webos-internals.org/trac |
| 06:20.53 | halfhalo | oh yeahâ¦. that pos |
| 06:21.02 | halfhalo | go redmine and never look back |
| 06:21.55 | halfhalo | :p |
| 06:22.04 | halfhalo | Redmine is fun and I like its git integration |
| 06:22.10 | halfhalo | and its all web2.0y |
| 06:22.13 | oil | i think they're looking into it |
| 06:22.20 | oil | and by they, i mean, people who do the servers, not me |
| 06:22.21 | oil | haha |
| 06:22.24 | halfhalo | lol |
| 06:22.36 | halfhalo | hardest part was getting rails to play nice with nginx |
| 06:23.11 | halfhalo | rails is what I do for my real job |
| 06:23.16 | oil | im sorry |
| 06:23.33 | halfhalo | I knowâ¦. I'm the guy who gets to port php apps to rails |
| 06:23.36 | oil | lol, actually, ive never used it |
| 06:24.11 | halfhalo | Rails is incredibly fast to program in if everything you do is done the rails way |
| 06:24.50 | halfhalo | the fact that a 10 minute working blog from scratch in rails pretty much says it all |
| 06:25.08 | oil | says that its great at making blogs? |
| 06:25.19 | halfhalo | and blog related sites |
| 06:25.21 | oil | lol |
| 06:25.33 | halfhalo | its models are sweet |
| 06:26.56 | halfhalo | takes your db table and makes it an object automagically |
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| 06:31.44 | oil | is happy the filepicker he wrote for wirc is getting use in preware |
| 06:32.15 | halfhalo | lol |
| 06:32.33 | oil | its sexy |
| 06:32.41 | halfhalo | lol |
| 06:32.49 | halfhalo | sudo make me a samich |
| 06:34.01 | egaudet | filepicker is only the start |
| 06:34.19 | halfhalo | next is filekidnapper and filemurderer! |
| 06:34.42 | egaudet | open source file explorer lol |
| 06:35.16 | egaudet | oil you got any screenshots of the filepicker ? |
| 06:36.19 | oil | yeah |
| 06:36.21 | halfhalo | god damn webhost is pricy |
| 06:36.58 | halfhalo | 20 a month.... |
| 06:37.08 | halfhalo | :/ I'm paying 5 now for my crap host |
| 06:37.43 | halfhalo | but I need a place for my node stuff |
| 06:37.59 | oil | egaudet: http://i50.tinypic.com/20sfwy.png |
| 06:38.01 | oil | the bottom two panes |
| 06:38.04 | oil | are the filepicker |
| 06:38.21 | oil | but screenshots dont show the little animation |
| 06:38.30 | oil | it goes side-to-side like the calendar |
| 06:40.53 | halfhalo | suuuuure |
| 06:41.01 | egaudet | nice |
| 06:42.05 | Tibfib | oil: is the filepicker mojo + pdk back end? |
| 06:42.20 | oil | in wirc the hybrid is what supplies the folder lists |
| 06:42.25 | oil | the plugin* |
| 06:42.28 | oil | in preware, its the service |
| 06:42.29 | Tibfib | nice, so it's palm approved |
| 06:43.00 | oil | well, we haven't tried to get it past a reviewer yet |
| 06:43.02 | oil | lol |
| 06:43.18 | oil | good luck testing everything wirc can do, haha |
| 06:43.25 | egaudet | why wouldn't it be passed |
| 06:43.31 | Tibfib | haha. I just meant it wasn't using mojo to see the files |
| 06:43.33 | halfhalo | the kittens |
| 06:43.57 | dohtem | 5 days later, and I find out my REST queries were wrong :( |
| 06:44.23 | halfhalo | wawawaaaaaaaaaa |
| 06:45.13 | RagingMind | cameraMen501 |
| 06:45.17 | dohtem | I feel stupid |
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| 08:59.13 | rwhitby | Looking for some Preware alpha testers ... |
| 09:02.27 | pipsmith | rwitby: me ? |
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| 09:09.05 | datafirm | rwhitby: what sort of testing needs to be done? |
| 09:09.19 | rwhitby | datafirm: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2554305 |
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| 09:11.16 | datafirm | rwhitby: Nice! I probably wont have the time needed to test the new features tho :( |
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| 09:27.07 | pipsmith | rwhitby: I think i have a problem with save/restore V.0.9.9 |
| 09:29.02 | pipsmith | rwhitby: have updated from V.0.9.8 through preware but when I open save/restore it is still saying it is v.0.9.8. |
| 09:29.48 | pipsmith | rwhitby: I have checked preware and it says i am up to date |
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| 09:47.11 | rwhitby | pipsmith: try reinstalling |
| 09:48.17 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Uninstall then reinstall? no testing? |
| 09:49.02 | rwhitby | pipsmith: it was a caching problem on the temporary machine I'm using to push through updates while the autobuilder is still dead |
| 09:49.22 | rwhitby | check the splash screen says 0.9.9 |
| 09:51.44 | pipsmith | rwhitby: Splash screen now reports 0.9.9 after reinstall and hang is no longer. |
| 09:53.37 | rwhitby | sweet |
| 09:57.44 | pipsmith | sweet it is indeed, will try out a few new scripts later. but first i got to play with Preware. Any specific packages you want us trying to instal? |
| 10:04.14 | rwhitby | anything you want |
| 10:04.21 | rwhitby | ipkg.preware.org/feeds is a good place to start ;) |
| 10:08.23 | rwhitby | bbl |
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| 16:39.23 | bpadalino|work | oh what a quiet day it's been |
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| 16:50.28 | ark3qqq | Preware seems to think that I have both UberKernel and Warthog installed. Is that allowed? |
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| 18:50.46 | datafirm | anyone with a pre plus here? |
| 18:50.56 | Anivrom | I wish.......... |
| 18:51.03 | datafirm | when you put your finger on the gesture area, does the center light, light up? |
| 18:51.12 | datafirm | on my old Pre, it did this.. |
| 18:51.15 | datafirm | but my plus it's not. |
| 18:51.24 | datafirm | Anivrom: I just upgrade to one! |
| 18:51.27 | datafirm | love it. |
| 18:51.29 | Anivrom | :( |
| 18:51.37 | Anivrom | Bell canada doesn't have pre plus. |
| 18:51.49 | datafirm | gsm or cdma? |
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| 18:52.10 | Anivrom | cdma... canada is 80% cdma when it comes to major carriers.. |
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| 18:52.20 | Anivrom | I got my phone for free though so not bad. |
| 18:52.37 | datafirm | Anivrom: the phone is pretty modular.. why dont you buy a broken/bad esn Plus and swap your COMM boards. |
| 18:52.45 | datafirm | thats what I did works great! |
| 18:52.55 | datafirm | Anivrom: yes.. free is good! :) |
| 18:53.02 | Anivrom | lost at esn. Dont bother explaining :P I'll google it |
| 18:53.29 | en0x | [; |
| 18:53.36 | datafirm | its just here are lots of cheap Pre Plus's out there because they have bad esn |
| 18:53.57 | halfhalo_class | my pre plus hasgood esn |
| 18:54.06 | halfhalo_class | but has never been activated |
| 18:54.14 | datafirm | so you take your radio from your phone and put it in the body of the Plus. So you get the processor/sdram and body etc. |
| 18:54.53 | datafirm | just an FYI.. Im NOT talking about cloning your ESN or any such business.. just swapping out the rear boards. |
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| 18:55.49 | chrisa | datafirm: you got your setup working? |
| 18:56.50 | halfhalo_class | oh! oh! failpost from nbr's hp forum! |
| 18:57.41 | datafirm | chrisa: a different setup actually. |
| 18:58.39 | halfhalo_class | silly people thinking they can upgrade their laptops video cards |
| 19:00.52 | datafirm | chrisa: but the new setup is working great! :) |
| 19:01.26 | halfhalo_class | I wish stupidity was grounds for banning people from forums |
| 19:01.49 | chrisa | Something about the forum medium lends itself to breeding stupidity and trolls |
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| 19:02.05 | chrisa | mailing lists seem to fight it a bit via barrier to entry |
| 19:02.39 | halfhalo_class | Yup. Thank god I only get to moderate nbr's thinkpad section. No retards like apple/dell/hp/acer |
| 19:03.16 | halfhalo_class | Or the notebook gaming section. Everyone who posts in there should be shot |
| 19:03.17 | chrisa | thinkpads are a brand no one is a zealot about |
| 19:03.32 | oil | i know, lets fix it by forcing everyone to use their name as it appears on their credit card? |
| 19:03.38 | halfhalo_class | I heart my thinkpad |
| 19:04.00 | oil | lol |
| 19:04.06 | damada | Hi, I'd like to doctor my Pre in order to see if some minor webos glitches disappear then: will my paid apps survive this? |
| 19:04.21 | en0x | yes |
| 19:04.38 | Turan | when you sign back into your palm profile after you dr it will grab your paid apps for you |
| 19:04.49 | oil | caution: takes a while |
| 19:04.54 | en0x | use wifi |
| 19:04.59 | Turan | wireless connection is recommended |
| 19:05.00 | halfhalo_class | Usual gaming topic: "I just got a 399 gateway and was wondering how to play crysis on high" |
| 19:05.01 | oil | i always end up having to kill some of them |
| 19:05.07 | oil | so they stop clogging it up for the rest |
| 19:05.09 | en0x | i stop them |
| 19:05.15 | en0x | connect to wifi and resume download |
| 19:06.23 | damada | en0x: you mean, they will survive? what about patches? I'd like to wipe those... |
| 19:06.40 | en0x | u will have to reinstall patches damada |
| 19:06.46 | oil | not "survive" a doctor |
| 19:07.01 | damada | ah OK thanks a lot for that info! |
| 19:07.36 | halfhalo_class | Oh god, there was this one forum member who was adamant that the 260mGTX was the best graphics card ever when overclocked. Whenever someone else called him out on it he either just spouted bull, claimed they did benchmarks wrong, or claim that those extra fps were not needed |
| 19:09.02 | en0x | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/56733869_42f4fece4a_o.jpg halfhalo_class |
| 19:09.19 | halfhalo_class | YARLY |
| 19:09.51 | en0x | ;D |
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| 19:20.02 | cryptk|work | chrisa: hows work today? |
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| 20:01.38 | CalaverX11 | Alright, I'm new to the Package Manager Service problem...looking on the Twitter feed, but are there any other instructions for fixing it? |
| 20:02.51 | zsoc | what is the package manager service? |
| 20:03.55 | CalaverX11 | Trying to update Preware to 1.2.0 is telling me I need Package Manager. :P I realize it doesn't use it anymore. |
| 20:04.33 | CalaverX11 | I have not tried uninstalling/reinstalling Preware yet, but I was hoping there was a fix before trying that. |
| 20:04.42 | pipsmith | remove the package manager from your saved package list |
| 20:04.50 | pipsmith | close preware |
| 20:05.01 | pipsmith | reload preware then try updating |
| 20:05.12 | CalaverX11 | Reloading now. |
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| 20:06.06 | pipsmith | reload preware then try updating? I think you need a full close of preware as well and not just an update feeds. |
| 20:06.23 | CalaverX11 | I did close it and reopen it, it's reloading now. |
| 20:07.28 | ShadeS | whoa, take that to #radioactive |
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| 20:09.13 | AtomicPlayboy | Forgot to set my nick when I joined. |
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| 20:11.32 | joel_ | hi |
| 20:11.34 | joel_ | hu |
| 20:11.54 | zsoc | ho |
| 20:11.57 | zsoc | ha |
| 20:12.14 | joel_ | where do I find info on compcache? |
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| 20:14.29 | joel_ | this app doesn't work very well |
| 20:14.33 | joel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.54 | joel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.19 | joel_ | that's better... I can see |
| 20:16.25 | joel_ | using govnah 0.5.0 |
| 20:17.28 | joel_ | how do I find cpct version? I have terminal... |
| 20:18.33 | joel_ | cpct -v didn't work |
| 20:19.39 | Georgo | 22:15:53 CTCP VERSION reply from joel_: qwebirc v0.90, copyright (C) 2008-2010 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (webOS/1.4.1.1; U; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/1.0 Safari/532.2 Pre/1.0 |
| 20:19.45 | joel_ | did I miss it? How do I find cpct version? |
| 20:19.46 | Georgo | it worked for me :) |
| 20:20.23 | joel_ | yeah man. Cool |
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| 20:22.04 | crazy_bitch | :-) |
| 20:23.11 | zsoc | crazy_bitch: that's a bit inappropriate |
| 20:23.19 | pipsmith | atomicplayboy / calaverx11 did you get preware to update? |
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| 20:23.51 | zsoc | crazy_bitch: please change your nick |
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| 20:28.01 | idontwan2know | So...the latest warthog kernel causes a hard lockup when I try to change the governor in govnah |
| 20:28.02 | coolio | what is compcache? What's the best setting for compcache? |
| 20:28.32 | idontwan2know | and I do mean hard lockup...it freezes with the ripples still on the screen and doesn't respond to anything but a battery pull |
| 20:28.59 | zsoc | good thing it's on your dev device |
| 20:29.45 | ark3qqq | idontwan2know: Warthog freezes for me before I even apply the change in Govnah. |
| 20:30.19 | ark3qqq | I'll just pick another governor from the dropdown. Instant freeze. I don't know if it's new Warthog or new Govnah, since I updated them both at the same time. :( |
| 20:30.41 | idontwan2know | it's warthog for me...I did some testing to isolate that after a fresh doctor |
| 20:30.58 | idontwan2know | uberkernel and thunderchief both work fine with the latest govnah |
| 20:31.01 | ark3qqq | Nice. You applied effort rather than being lazy like me. :) |
| 20:31.25 | ark3qqq | I can't install uberkernel 'cause my Preware thinks I already have it installed. |
| 20:33.09 | egaudet | coolio, compcache is compressed ram swap drive |
| 20:33.13 | idontwan2know | well I had to doctor anyway, so it made sense to isolate the problem while i was at it |
| 20:33.49 | jhoweb | autobuilder is down so no new warthogs |
| 20:34.08 | ark3qqq | jhoweb: Are you aware of a specific problem with current Warthog? Just curious. |
| 20:34.54 | jhoweb | misbehaving patches |
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| 20:40.28 | ark3qqq | So how do I figure out why Preware thinks I have uberkernel installed when I don't? Or... how do I convince Preware that I don't have uberkernel installed? |
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| 20:41.18 | idontwan2know | what happens when you try to uninstall it via preware? |
| 20:42.18 | egaudet | -how- did you get in that situation |
| 20:42.41 | ark3qqq | It dies pretty quickly. Error is "Fatal error occurred, unable to locate tarball" in the prerm script. |
| 20:43.48 | egaudet | how did you get into that situation? |
| 20:43.49 | idontwan2know | weird |
| 20:44.08 | ark3qqq | egaudet: As far as I can tell, I had no Uber installed this morning. I did an update that included preware, warthog, and govnah. Preware failed due to the "saved packages" thing, but warthog and govnah updated fine. |
| 20:45.11 | ark3qqq | I opted to reboot first before messing further with a Preware update. After rebooting, I hit Govnah to go back to screenstate mode --> instant freeze. Not sure if that's relevant. Anyway, after that point, I updated Preware (found the saved packages fix on PCentral) and then I've been seeing both Uber and warthog listed since. |
| 20:45.56 | ark3qqq | In all those steps, I don't know exactly when uber started appearing; I wasn't looking for that sort of oddity. |
| 20:50.49 | egaudet | interestingly odd |
| 20:50.59 | ark3qqq | Is there an ipkg equivalent of dpkg --force-all -r package ? That would be one approach. |
| 20:51.16 | egaudet | might have been in your saved package list or something? |
| 20:51.37 | ark3qqq | Yes, it might have, since I did run uber at one point. |
| 20:51.45 | egaudet | ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps remove <packageid> would be to remove the package (without running prerm) |
| 20:51.46 | ark3qqq | Now that I've overwritten said list... |
| 20:51.55 | egaudet | but make sure that it has no remnants |
| 20:53.04 | pipsmith | I managed to do a same thing yesterday |
| 20:53.31 | ark3qqq | Dumb question perhaps... What's the packageid for uber? |
| 20:54.22 | egaudet | check the feed ipkg.preware.org |
| 20:54.37 | ark3qqq | It's the whole thing, right? from org. all the way to kernel-pre ? |
| 20:55.04 | egaudet | sans the version I believe ya |
| 20:55.08 | pipsmith | ark3qqq: you might want to test for rwhitby |
| 20:55.48 | pipsmith | I had similar situation where it said I had two kernels installed but mine took place in different circumstances to you |
| 20:57.37 | ark3qqq | Okay, success. |
| 20:57.43 | ark3qqq | pipsmith: How did you end up in that situation? |
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| 20:59.44 | pipsmith | ark3qqq, as I was halfway through update f105 I closed out wirc and it managed to freeze my pre. So I rebooted, ofcourse the kernel hadn't been restored but Preware still thought it was installed. |
| 21:00.26 | ark3qqq | Ah, okay. My MO is to close everything before starting Preware. I guess there is some value to my paranoia. :) |
| 21:00.44 | pipsmith | I then run palm recovery and it still thought I had a custom kernel installed, yet I could still apply uberkernel |
| 21:00.59 | pipsmith | Ye i think I will take that advice from now on. |
| 21:01.21 | ark3qqq | pipsmith: Odd. I thought the Palm recovery stuff was primarily about fixing what's on the filesystem, not fixing the package manager. |
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| 21:06.55 | ark3qqq | I thought I saw a page somewhere that discusses the difference(s) between Warthog, Psycho, and SBromwich kernels. Anybody have a pointer to that handy? |
| 21:07.58 | pipsmith | ark3qqq: I think rod is now rewriting it so that it will also overwrite whatever was left in my case. |
| 21:09.11 | ark3qqq | continuous improvement. :) |
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| 21:14.39 | cryptk|work | ark3qqq: the Psycho kernels I think are where they are working on raw speed, sbromwich kernels are working on battery savings, Warthog you will have to ask jhojho / jhoweb what his focus is there. |
| 21:15.03 | cryptk|work | Uber is where all of the developements end up at once they are determined to be safe and fully tweaked |
| 21:15.13 | jhoweb | it's called a stroll |
| 21:15.43 | ark3qqq | cryptk|work: Thanks for the summary. My effort to Google up the page I recall has been a failure. |
| 21:15.44 | cryptk|work | Warthog is my favorite but I am currently using Uber because of the bug in Warthog... once the autobuilder is back up and the new warthog comes out and fixes it then I will be back on the hog |
| 21:16.11 | cryptk|work | jhoweb: so you are basically going for whatever you want? or trying to combine Psycho and sbromwich |
| 21:16.20 | ark3qqq | cryptk|work: Same here, except I haven't chosen my replacement kernel yet. |
| 21:16.34 | jhoweb | essentially, |
| 21:17.02 | jhoweb | and to get things stable (recent versions excepted) |
| 21:17.22 | ark3qqq | The "closest to uberkernel" part of Warthog is what drew me in. |
| 21:18.46 | jhoweb | think of it as a feeder to uber |
| 21:19.04 | ark3qqq | uber pre-alpha? |
| 21:20.21 | cryptk|work | technically it seems more like it would be Uber alpha |
| 21:20.35 | cryptk|work | Uber beta would be the releases in the testing feeds |
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| 21:23.35 | cryptk|work | I heard something about the server getting SSD's... |
| 21:23.40 | cryptk|work | ~sen rwhitby |
| 21:23.44 | cryptk|work | ~seen rwhitby |
| 21:23.46 | infobot | rwhitby <~rwhitby@nslu2-linux/rwhitby> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 11h 19m 25s ago, saying: 'ipkg.preware.org/feeds is a good place to start ;)'. |
| 21:24.00 | cryptk|work | I think it was a twitter |
| 21:24.08 | ark3qqq | I remember him saying bbt later than that, I think. |
| 21:24.33 | cryptk|work | well, the infobot runs on the same server that is having issues |
| 21:24.40 | cryptk|work | so sometimes it has missed things lately |
| 21:24.50 | cryptk|work | nslu2-log runs on the same server as well |
| 21:25.04 | cryptk|work | a cheap way to tell if the server is running or not is to look and see if those two bots are in the channel |
| 21:27.23 | ark3qqq | Eep. Uber doesn't have CompCache? Or am I missing something...? |
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| 21:36.44 | cryptk|work | Uber has it |
| 21:36.53 | cryptk|work | anyways, time to go home |
| 21:36.59 | ark3qqq | I'm not seeing the settings in Govnah. |
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| 21:42.57 | jhoweb | has anyone had any issues with getting their pixi to charge on the touchstone? my pre charges just fine but the pixi seems to have issues (works on one touchstone but not the other) |
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| 22:09.59 | marfpilf | hello all |
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| 22:14.30 | datafirm | pasted http://pastie.textmate.org/private/zlweoqexihqnhbg1ivkig |
| 22:14.47 | datafirm | woops |
| 22:14.48 | datafirm | sorry |
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| 23:27.20 | Turan | i'm having an issue trying to install the virtual keyboard on a palm pre on sprint. i get an error pasted below and the keyboard will not install. |
| 23:27.24 | Turan | http://pastie.textmate.org/1044884 |
| 23:27.52 | Turan | i had the keyboard installed previously but i uninstalled it |
| 23:28.21 | Turan | now trying to reinstall |
| 23:28.56 | egaudet | check /media/internal/webos-patches.log |
| 23:30.47 | halfhalo | weee |
| 23:30.52 | halfhalo | setting up new server vm |
| 23:32.27 | halfhalo | nginx+rails+passenger+redmine+git repo integration+node all wrapped in a neat little bow |
| 23:32.37 | halfhalo | oh, and nosql or somthing similar |
| 23:33.08 | Turan | egaudet, are u sure that path is correct? |
| 23:33.16 | Turan | i don't see that file |
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| 23:34.33 | egaudet | path is correct, would be in root directory if in usb mode |
| 23:35.01 | rwhitby | morning |
| 23:35.22 | Turan | oh ok found it |
| 23:35.25 | rwhitby | If anyone sent me a message in the last 12 hours, I've missed it. Lost overnight backlog. |
| 23:35.33 | Turan | nowhat am i looking for? |
| 23:36.00 | halfhalo | hurp long download |
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| 23:39.03 | Turan | saving rejects to file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework338.js.rej |
| 23:40.18 | Turan | so any thought's egaudet? do i need to replace that .js file somehow? |
| 23:40.21 | Turan | or go into it and change something |
| 23:41.03 | egaudet | I need to see the webos-patches.log portion from the install |
| 23:41.15 | Turan | ok hold on |
| 23:42.12 | Turan | http://pastie.textmate.org/1044899 |
| 23:42.18 | egaudet | the patch seems like it's already installed |
| 23:42.36 | Turan | yes but it doesn't show in preware as installed |
| 23:42.46 | Turan | and i can't get it to activate by double tapping above the pearl like before |
| 23:43.15 | egaudet | it looks like an old version of the patch is installed to the files |
| 23:43.31 | egaudet | how did you remove it? |
| 23:43.42 | Turan | through pre-ware |
| 23:45.26 | egaudet | try to install this version: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/1.4.1/org.webosinternals.patches.add-onscreen-keyboard_1.4.1-1_all.ipk |
| 23:48.25 | Turan | i tried to install via quick install from my laptop and got a similar error saying that patch detected |
| 23:54.54 | egaudet | webos-patches.log |
| 23:57.10 | Turan | http://pastie.textmate.org/1044920 |
| 23:58.02 | Turan | is there anyway to force it to apply anyway? |
| 23:59.25 | egaudet | turan you don't want to do that |
| 23:59.34 | Turan | fair enoug |
