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| 00:04.34 | ka6sox-work | Mercury, you still here? |
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| 00:11.17 | jhojho | bbl |
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| 00:28.27 | datafirm | Working on a system patch. Is there a best practices for testing this in the emulator? ie, where are the system files for the emulator stored? or do you guys tend to manage your test diff with preware? |
| 00:29.35 | datafirm | or do we need to do all our testing on devices? |
| 00:30.42 | ka6sox-work | datafirm, egaudet or rwhitby can probably answer that one best...wait till you see them. |
| 00:30.57 | datafirm | ka6sox-work: ok. thanks |
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| 00:31.34 | datafirm | perhaps I just need to create my own local test feed and add taht to preware in my emulator. |
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| 00:46.24 | rwhitby | datafirm: I point the emulator at a test feed on the host that is running virtualbox |
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| 00:47.15 | datafirm | rwhitby: that is what I planned to do. |
| 00:47.25 | datafirm | and as far as testing the patches before making a diff? |
| 00:47.48 | rwhitby | datafirm: I do a second host-local network adapter for the emulator vm, and use it to connect to the host |
| 00:48.04 | rwhitby | datafirm: I personally do very few patches |
| 00:48.27 | datafirm | ok |
| 00:48.39 | datafirm | I wanted to add a weather temp/icon to the top bar :) |
| 00:50.25 | cryptk|wirc | rwhitby: hows the server holding out? |
| 00:50.49 | ka6sox-work | so far so good. |
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| 00:55.59 | muesli | is there a PalmDatabase3.db reference somewhere? |
| 00:58.27 | bpadalino | .schema ? |
| 00:59.38 | muesli | bpadalino: obviously, yes. doesn't explain the bitmasks of various flags |
| 00:59.47 | muesli | +, tho |
| 00:59.50 | bpadalino | no it doesn't |
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| 01:09.38 | rwhitby | and there is not |
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| 01:22.25 | bpadalino | oh right .. there is no reference .. |
| 01:22.26 | bpadalino | sorry |
| 01:24.25 | Audemars02 | hey everyone. i have an update to saverestore... going to update preware to push that out...anyone else making changes to preware? |
| 01:27.11 | rwhitby | Audemars02: that's build.git, and it shouldn't matter |
| 01:27.37 | rwhitby | Audemars02: they won't be touching saverestore/Makefile and git merges stuff trivially if they are in different files |
| 01:28.09 | muesli | rwhitby: surely someone must have made an effort to decipher those values?! :-) |
| 01:28.37 | rwhitby | muesli: if so, it would be on the wiki, cause everyone in the community is 100% diligent on recording stuff there ;) |
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| 01:29.42 | muesli | rwhitby: heh, in that case i might start an effort |
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| 01:53.12 | rwhitby | ~testing-feed |
| 01:53.13 | infobot | methinks testing-feed is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds |
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| 03:00.34 | sjsharksfan | preset reset |
| 03:02.11 | Abyssul | Not what Im looking for |
| 03:02.55 | sjsharksfan | oh |
| 03:03.02 | sjsharksfan | sorry |
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| 09:55.07 | bhuey | uNiXpSyChO: when the uberkernel going to be updated ? |
| 09:55.21 | bhuey | is it now the 'stable' kernel ? |
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| 10:26.07 | swisstomcat | rehi |
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| 10:47.13 | noradtux_ | hi |
| 10:50.17 | noradtux | I was wondering if the cpu of the pre is driven with different voltages depending on speed. I looked at the overclicking-patch of the UberKernel and to me it looks like 600MHz and 720MHz use the same voltage. Is that correct? |
| 10:51.02 | noradtux | that would mean that powerconsumption/heat should be about the same for 600 and 720 ... |
| 10:51.36 | ka6sox | noradtux, yes, there are different voltages for different frequencies. |
| 10:52.59 | noradtux | ka6sox: yes, thx, that's what I found out aswell. The question is, if I read the source correctly and 600 and 720 MHz use the same voltage. |
| 10:53.18 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 10:53.29 | swisstomcat | i'm at 720mhz |
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| 10:54.55 | noradtux | swisstomcat: i am currently trying that aswell. have been running at 600 up to now |
| 10:55.15 | swisstomcat | i'm running screenstate 250/720 ... no problems so far |
| 10:55.31 | swisstomcat | battery seems fine |
| 10:56.26 | noradtux | swisstomcat: my personal rule of thumb for "real" computers usually is that it's okay as long as I do not need to increase the voltage. And 800MHz already has quite an increase in voltage. |
| 10:56.47 | noradtux | anyone tried under-volting? |
| 10:56.48 | ka6sox | norad tux what is the voltage value, for 600 and 720? |
| 10:57.17 | ka6sox | noradtux, I'm pretty sure that both warthog and uNiXpSyChO have tried undervolting. |
| 10:58.10 | swisstomcat | probably a good rule, noradtux .. i've given up overclocking/overvolting .. remember it well from the early days tho :) |
| 10:58.24 | noradtux | 1.20V (OPP3), 1.27V (OPP4), 1.35 (OPP5), 1.35 (OPP6), 1.42 (OPP7) |
| 10:58.35 | noradtux | OPP7 would be 800MHz |
| 10:59.02 | noradtux | 0.975V (OPP1), 1.050V (OPP2), 1.20V (OPP3), 1.27V (OPP4), 1.35 (OPP5), 1.35 (OPP6), 1.42 (OPP7) |
| 10:59.30 | swisstomcat | does going under 500mhz lower the voltage? |
| 10:59.37 | noradtux | yes |
| 11:00.10 | noradtux | but with webos 1.4.5 and the current uberkernel the min frequency seems to be locked to 500MHz again :/ |
| 11:00.10 | swisstomcat | good to know |
| 11:00.21 | swisstomcat | really? |
| 11:00.32 | swisstomcat | i set it to 250mhz (screenstate) |
| 11:01.15 | noradtux | me too, but when I checked yesterday it would stick to 500 with locked screen |
| 11:01.22 | swisstomcat | have to check then |
| 11:04.09 | swisstomcat | doctoring my other pre to 1.4.5 ATM |
| 11:04.23 | noradtux | seems to be fixed in git, but no new packages yet |
| 11:05.14 | noradtux | yeah, doctoring is the only way to get a working pre currently, they fsck'ed up modifying the fstab to make /media/internal writable by PDK-apps |
| 11:06.03 | swisstomcat | unless you fiddle with fstab |
| 11:06.59 | noradtux | sure |
| 11:07.01 | noradtux | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:07.43 | swisstomcat | yeah, no chance there |
| 11:08.16 | swisstomcat | they might work on 1.4.5.1 for the rest of the world before they release it |
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| 11:10.13 | noradtux | yeah. I mean, ti was nice having the release early, but it breaks navit. I spent half the weekend to figure out why it was crashing ;) Just because it _expects_ to be able to write into it's data-directory ... |
| 11:10.43 | swisstomcat | oh no |
| 11:14.45 | noradtux | but the good thing is that webos now brings all the necessary libs/APIs, so we can now work on getting it into preware :) |
| 11:14.58 | swisstomcat | very nice |
| 11:15.08 | swisstomcat | i've tested navit too, looks good |
| 11:15.19 | swisstomcat | even into the catalog? |
| 11:15.27 | noradtux | maybe |
| 11:16.56 | noradtux | one problem is that webos doesn't ship the files needed for gettext-style localization. So we need to put some files onto the rootfs and I do not think that this is allowed for apps in the catalog ;) |
| 11:17.03 | swisstomcat | i wish i could help but i got not farther than installing the PDK :) |
| 11:21.49 | noradtux | you will be the first victim for testing the packages when they are done ;) |
| 11:23.22 | swisstomcat | i can do that |
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| 12:41.30 | SimpsonTP | my pre updated to 1.4.5 and now the majority of patches doesn't work anymore |
| 12:41.38 | SimpsonTP | is that expected behaviour ? |
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| 12:43.27 | rwhitby | have you read the PreCentral thread on that? |
| 12:44.17 | swisstomcat | http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/253860-attention-patches-must-removed-prior-ota-update.html |
| 12:46.36 | rwhitby | there's another which lists the ones that have been ported |
| 12:47.37 | rwhitby | 280 or so out of 335 |
| 12:47.52 | SimpsonTP | okay |
| 12:47.57 | SimpsonTP | and when its too late ? |
| 12:48.21 | rwhitby | that's also in that thread |
| 12:53.16 | SimpsonTP | rwhitby, hmm on which page ? |
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| 12:55.38 | swisstomcat | probably http://forums.precentral.net/2539700-post13.html? |
| 12:58.49 | rwhitby | yup |
| 12:59.25 | SimpsonTP | k |
| 12:59.29 | SimpsonTP | lets ee |
| 12:59.33 | noradtux | about govnah: does it still fill up your memory or does it use some kind of round-robin store for the graphs? |
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| 12:59.47 | rwhitby | noradtux: only stores last 300 samples now |
| 13:00.01 | noradtux | good :) |
| 13:00.02 | swisstomcat | 0.5.0 is the latest |
| 13:00.13 | noradtux | yep,running here |
| 13:00.31 | swisstomcat | interested in a german version of govnah? |
| 13:00.49 | noradtux | not really, I run my whole webos on english ;) |
| 13:01.53 | noradtux | except navit, german street names spoken with english pronounciation are really hard to understand :D |
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| 13:04.06 | sebastianha | If I do a complete reset with safe erase on my palm will this delete preware and patches, too? |
| 13:04.20 | rwhitby | preware yes, patches no. |
| 13:04.27 | sebastianha | mmh, ok |
| 13:04.29 | rwhitby | you need to do a full erase and webos doctor |
| 13:05.00 | sebastianha | can I somehow see if there are any patches? I bought a used palm and want to check |
| 13:05.51 | sebastianha | or should I take the latest doctor? |
| 13:06.33 | swisstomcat | lastest doctor is probably the best bet |
| 13:07.02 | sebastianha | ok |
| 13:07.27 | noradtux | just doctor it and enjoy beeing sure that you have a clean system |
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| 13:10.57 | rwhitby | for a used device, always full reset and doctor |
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| 13:12.23 | sebastianha | ok |
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| 13:26.36 | SimpsonTP | okay, I don't get it or it doesn't work |
| 13:26.44 | SimpsonTP | some patches install fine but won't work |
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| 13:29.18 | swisstomcat | what did you do? |
| 13:38.31 | SimpsonTP | I installed 1.4.5 without taking in account the stuf mentioned in the mail |
| 13:38.45 | SimpsonTP | forum I mean |
| 13:40.44 | swisstomcat | what did you do after reading in the forum? |
| 13:40.50 | SimpsonTP | then I tried to do steps in post 13 |
| 13:41.09 | SimpsonTP | which seem to work, but installing the patches doesn't make them work |
| 13:42.53 | swisstomcat | so you ran EPR? |
| 13:43.12 | SimpsonTP | Emergency Patch Removal |
| 13:43.29 | swisstomcat | yes |
| 13:43.50 | SimpsonTP | I do that by selecting install ? or is there a actual invocation place ? |
| 13:45.19 | swisstomcat | you start it from preware (the EPR) |
| 13:46.07 | SimpsonTP | okay, i'm lost, I look it up as a package ? |
| 13:46.45 | swisstomcat | start preware |
| 13:46.51 | SimpsonTP | ack |
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| 13:48.11 | swisstomcat | you can start typing to search |
| 13:48.11 | swisstomcat | emergency |
| 13:48.40 | SimpsonTP | k |
| 13:51.02 | SimpsonTP | I only I don't see Emergency Patch Removal there, only Recovery |
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| 14:19.04 | noradtux | you guys don't happen to know where palm stores the EAS profile-data, especially the policy it gets from the EAS server? |
| 14:27.06 | SimpsonTP | swisstomcat, and then.... |
| 14:27.19 | swisstomcat | install |
| 14:28.10 | SimpsonTP | EPR stands for recovery or removal ? |
| 14:28.31 | swisstomcat | recovery |
| 14:29.16 | SimpsonTP | okay, and afterwards ? |
| 14:29.44 | swisstomcat | what does it say after installing? |
| 14:29.51 | swisstomcat | it has been a while since i ran it |
| 14:29.53 | SimpsonTP | phone reboot |
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| 14:29.58 | SimpsonTP | running that now |
| 14:29.58 | swisstomcat | ok |
| 14:31.27 | swisstomcat | bbl |
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| 17:06.39 | mikePre | curious if anyone else is seeing this or if anyone knows why I am seeing an update for 1.4.1.1 from webOS on my Pre (which is running 1.4.1.1), I am running latest UberKernel... |
| 17:10.18 | egaudet_work | have you installed anything outside of preware in the past |
| 17:11.42 | mikePre | there is not much I havent installed... :-).....I am also up for a new something or other |
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| 17:15.25 | egaudet_work | well something installed outside of the feeds may have installed some ipk to / which would give you the update bug |
| 17:15.36 | mikePre | i found a shell script that toggles the update daemon so that I dont get the update messages, and I just toggled it back on today to see if 1.4.5 was around...and it popped up with 1.4.1.1 again |
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| 17:17.50 | sjsharksfan | I've seen that happen with others around update time |
| 17:18.50 | mikePre | i only have 1 file in / and that is the md5sums file |
| 17:21.52 | egaudet_work | I meant if something installed with ipk install using /, it has been known to cause the repeated update issue in the past |
| 17:24.38 | mikePre | at one point I couldnt get the pdf viewer app to show up, and I think I pacckaged it up and tried an ipk install, tht sound like something that could cause that? and how would one remedy it? just wondering when 1.4.5 comes out, if it will know to go to 1.4.5 and not try to go back to 1.4.1.1 |
| 17:26.48 | egaudet_work | any ipk install could cause this |
| 17:27.14 | egaudet_work | Doctor would remedy it |
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| 17:40.48 | mikePre | yeah, im done with DR for now, unless I have to....I will wait for 1.4.5 and see how that goes |
| 17:40.48 | mikePre | thanks |
| 17:50.30 | torchie | refresh |
| 17:52.29 | SimpsonTP | egaudet_work, I stil can't get the vkb to work :( |
| 17:53.47 | egaudet_work | what's the symptoms |
| 17:56.42 | SimpsonTP | well first nothing, then I did the 1.4.5 update and then it showed me a dialog that it couldn't find stuff and I needed to reinstall it |
| 17:56.55 | SimpsonTP | now I reinstalled it, and it doesn't do anything anymore :) |
| 17:57.12 | egaudet_work | what did you reinstall |
| 17:57.26 | SimpsonTP | the 2 packages, vkb + the themes |
| 17:57.40 | egaudet_work | and when you double tap nothing comes up? |
| 17:58.00 | SimpsonTP | nope |
| 17:58.08 | egaudet_work | has it worked in the past? |
| 17:58.21 | SimpsonTP | nope, we talked before, you were busy back then |
| 17:58.56 | egaudet_work | is this German Pre+ ? |
| 17:59.14 | SimpsonTP | yup |
| 18:00.25 | SimpsonTP | known issues ? |
| 18:00.53 | egaudet_work | no but my gut feeling is I'm missing a locale or something |
| 18:01.10 | SimpsonTP | the phone is setup english |
| 18:01.18 | egaudet_work | can you novaterm in? |
| 18:01.38 | SimpsonTP | uhm not now |
| 18:01.42 | SimpsonTP | forgot my cable |
| 18:01.55 | egaudet_work | and do ls /usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/submissions/347/resources |
| 18:02.03 | egaudet_work | terminal app? |
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| 18:04.41 | SimpsonTP | egaudet_work, did that |
| 18:05.22 | egaudet_work | what do you have for en_ * |
| 18:05.59 | SimpsonTP | ca,cn,gb,ie,mx,pl,us |
| 18:06.24 | egaudet_work | and de_ ? |
| 18:06.33 | SimpsonTP | de,ch |
| 18:06.44 | SimpsonTP | but i'm using the phone in netherlands |
| 18:06.58 | egaudet_work | what do you have for nl_ or _nl |
| 18:07.17 | SimpsonTP | just nl_nl |
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| 18:09.50 | jhopixi | how often do people see google redirecting to the wrong language? for some reason, the goog keeps sending me to the french site |
| 18:10.35 | SimpsonTP | browser settings |
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| 18:14.47 | egaudet_work | SimpsonTP: type the following in terminal |
| 18:15.00 | egaudet_work | cat /usr/lib/luna/customization/locale.txt |
| 18:16.10 | SimpsonTP | cat not found... |
| 18:16.15 | SimpsonTP | great |
| 18:16.20 | SimpsonTP | need a package for that |
| 18:17.33 | egaudet_work | no |
| 18:17.36 | egaudet_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.23 | SimpsonTP | okay, what do you wanna know ? |
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| 18:22.10 | egaudet_work | the different languageCode and countryCodes |
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| 18:22.33 | egaudet_work | example I have for laungageName English, languageCode en, countryCode us |
| 18:23.00 | SimpsonTP | here its de |
| 18:23.10 | PuffTheMagic | we are gonna need to localize wirc |
| 18:23.38 | egaudet_work | SimpsonTP: so languageCode en, countryCode de |
| 18:24.22 | SimpsonTP | hmm no de de |
| 18:24.36 | egaudet_work | for languageName English? |
| 18:24.48 | SimpsonTP | anyway I need to stop now, need to save batery :( |
| 18:24.53 | SimpsonTP | forgot cable |
| 18:25.28 | egaudet_work | well if it's en_de it makes sense why it's not working and I can add that localization to the patch |
| 18:25.54 | SimpsonTP | okay |
| 18:26.00 | SimpsonTP | I'll let you know ! |
| 18:31.40 | PuffTheMagic | someone should make a solar backplate |
| 18:32.19 | egaudet_work | s/someone/PuffTheMagic/ |
| 18:32.25 | oil | so you can set your phone down screen-down in the sun? |
| 18:32.33 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 18:32.43 | oil | sounds like a good way to scratch the shit out of it |
| 18:33.09 | PuffTheMagic | not if u have a shell for it |
| 18:33.50 | egaudet_work | solar shell |
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| 18:39.28 | torchie | just make the whole device of solar panels |
| 18:39.51 | torchie | and use the kinetic energy provided by typing on the keyboard |
| 18:40.07 | torchie | the more you use the phone, the more it charges! |
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| 18:41.47 | PuffTheMagic | what about piezo electric from typing |
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| 18:45.32 | NachoB | egaudet_work: updated KeyBoss, Sym working, wallpaper and ringtone still reverting to default |
| 18:47.36 | torchie | can you get electricity from a capactiive screen |
| 18:47.40 | jhopixi | make the lcd solar underneath.. would be cool if possible |
| 18:47.48 | torchie | like suck the energy out of the guy touching it |
| 18:48.08 | torchie | I don' t get why they don't have solar panels on the faces of these things like calculators |
| 18:50.09 | PuffTheMagic | netbook here |
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| 19:27.09 | noradtux_wirc | hape: navit seems to work, including speech :-) |
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| 19:33.11 | Robi_ | the slide mechanism is probably the best way to engineer a manual charging system |
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| 20:57.16 | swisstomcat | evening |
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| 22:32.25 | bpadalino|work | another 15 minutes to putz around |
| 22:32.34 | halfhalo_class | until? |
| 22:32.45 | bpadalino|work | test is done running and i can kick off another one before heading home |
| 22:33.11 | bpadalino|work | silly data generator takes a long time to run |
| 22:33.17 | halfhalo_class | ewww |
| 22:33.19 | halfhalo_class | data |
| 22:33.26 | bpadalino|work | i know, right ? |
| 22:33.32 | ka6sox-work | bpadalino, I had to find a bug in some logic that had 84 terms today, sucked. |
| 22:33.34 | bpadalino|work | who needs that stuff |
| 22:33.42 | bpadalino|work | 84 terms? that is ridiculous |
| 22:33.51 | bpadalino|work | what was the bug in the end ? |
| 22:34.22 | ka6sox-work | inverted input |
| 22:34.39 | bpadalino|work | funky |
| 22:34.50 | ka6sox-work | ya, I got my signs mixed up |
| 22:35.06 | bpadalino|work | i sometimes wonder how much energy is wasted swapping bytes |
| 22:35.29 | ka6sox-work | oh because of LE and NBO? |
| 22:35.53 | bpadalino|work | given all the data and all the computers and everything going on .. that, and i wonder how much stuff ends up being converted from two's compliment to offset-binary |
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| 22:36.08 | ka6sox-work | ewww |
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| 23:00.41 | rwhitby | morning |
| 23:01.30 | swishy | morning |
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| 23:14.59 | beelzabub | morning |
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| 23:38.11 | oc80z | whats good |
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| 23:39.32 | rwhitby | oc80z: 1.4.5 is pretty good, once you fix /etc/fstab :) |
| 23:40.06 | oc80z | whats swapping? |
| 23:40.50 | oc80z | (did germany say 1.4.5 fixed the cards issue?) |
| 23:41.04 | ark3qqq | I've discovered that my pre doesn't like switching clock frequencies too often. It's happy on screenstate, but tends to freeze on On-Demand or Conservative. |
| 23:41.47 | oc80z | wassa deal with fstab? |
| 23:41.51 | rwhitby | that's quite common |
| 23:42.16 | rwhitby | oc80z: missing umask=0000 on /media/internal for OTA vs doctored |
| 23:42.39 | oc80z | oh damn. |
| 23:42.52 | ark3qqq | rwhitby: common re the Pre freezing? (i.e. were you answering me?) |
| 23:42.58 | rwhitby | oc80z: combined with PDK jails, and some games don't work. |
| 23:43.00 | rwhitby | ark3qqq: yes |
| 23:44.15 | ark3qqq | rwhitby: Gotcha. Yeah, it's too bad. I was getting crazy-good battery life with on-demand scaling from 250-1050 and Warthog, whereas I'm only getting quite-good battery life with screenstate 500-1050. |
| 23:44.32 | ark3qqq | Warthog is pretty awesome regardless. |
| 23:48.36 | bhuey | 1.4.5 is out on Sprint now ? |
| 23:48.59 | oil | that rumor said its to come out today |
| 23:49.22 | bhuey | what about the rumor that it's going to fix the TMC problem ? |
| 23:49.24 | oc80z | hittin update update update |
| 23:49.56 | rwhitby | bhuey: I run Uber on mine, so don't know what the unmodified 1.4.5 OS does for TMX |
| 23:49.57 | ark3qqq | What kernel(s) does the uinput module work under? |
| 23:49.59 | rwhitby | TMC |
| 23:50.03 | rwhitby | ark3qqq: any |
| 23:50.44 | bhuey | rwhitby: uberkernel works well, it's almost like having a new device |
| 23:50.58 | ark3qqq | rwhitby: Not a kernel module, then? So that's not my problem... More reading to do. |
| 23:51.02 | egaudet | hmm how else can I clean up if I can't catch SIGTERM? |
| 23:51.34 | beelzabub | why can't you catch sigterm? |
| 23:51.43 | egaudet | Luna seemingly doesn't like me to |
| 23:51.58 | beelzabub | you mean for a PDK app? |
| 23:52.00 | egaudet | when I catch it in my service, upon reboot the wallpaper is reset |
| 23:52.17 | beelzabub | what is your service doing? |
| 23:52.50 | rwhitby | egaudet: I reckon there is a LunaSysMgr termination routine which saves sqlite databases back to disk, and that's not being rung |
| 23:52.53 | rwhitby | run |
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| 23:53.30 | rwhitby | that would also explain people loosing settings when we do a tellbootie to reboot the device on kernel installs |
| 23:53.42 | egaudet | beelzabub, creating a uinput device and piping the keypad input device into it along with other stuff |
| 23:54.11 | egaudet | rwhitby, that makes sense. I dont' have enough experience with signals, can I catch it to clean up and still let it pass on to luna |
| 23:54.25 | rwhitby | egaudet: me neither |
| 23:54.36 | ark3qqq | I hope Luna flushes an app's database when you toss the app; I always toss all apps before hitting the reboot key in Preware. |
| 23:54.36 | beelzabub | still not clear on exactly what you're trying to do |
| 23:54.39 | beelzabub | what's uinput? |
| 23:54.51 | egaudet | userspace input module |
| 23:54.59 | beelzabub | not familiar with what it is |
| 23:55.12 | beelzabub | i imagine something like fuse but for input devices? |
| 23:55.21 | ark3qqq | egaudet: You can remove your signal handler and then signal again. |
| 23:55.32 | beelzabub | anyways, don't see the point of it since hidd handles all the input |
| 23:55.35 | ark3qqq | egaudet: Where by "remove" I mean "replace with original." |
| 23:55.39 | egaudet | it allows userspace to create/write to input devices. Which I'm using to re-link keypad0 to so that hidd reads my created input device for keypad events |
| 23:55.49 | beelzabub | ahh |
| 23:56.18 | beelzabub | so how does that have anything to do with lunasysmgr? |
| 23:56.27 | egaudet | all that stuff works, but as soon as I sigaction(SIGTERM), reboot resets wallpaper, so I need to not do that but still clean up |
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| 23:57.25 | egaudet | Also the service writes to the keypad input device to set repeat rate stuff, which I really want to reset back to default when the service dies. That's the main reason for catching the signal |
| 23:57.49 | beelzabub | sure |
| 23:57.57 | beelzabub | i'm still failing to see what any of that has to do with the wallpaper |
| 23:58.06 | beelzabub | if it's a trully standalone service |
| 23:58.37 | egaudet | beelzabub, the wallpaper doesnt' have anything to do with it per se. Just a side effect of rebooting while the service is running |
| 23:58.46 | beelzabub | don't see how |
| 23:58.53 | beelzabub | unless you're doing something else as well |
| 23:59.05 | beelzabub | like interacting with the wallpaper service |
| 23:59.45 | egaudet | I'm not doing anything with the wallpaper service or anything outside of input stuff |