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| 00:28.11 | oc80z | ...why does preware.org instructions default to wosqi |
| 00:28.35 | rwhitby | cause there is no other cross-platform set of instructions that are easier for new users |
| 00:28.52 | oc80z | it just fails to install preware's 'services' -- preware ' The service is not running, firs ttry restarting preware (did) or reboot your phone (did) and try again. |
| 00:29.12 | oc80z | hey , whats good |
| 00:29.37 | oc80z | should it not ah, directly link to the java bin? |
| 00:29.46 | rwhitby | oc80z: got a repeatable test case for that with WOSQI 3.12? |
| 00:30.16 | oc80z | could have sworn i got 3.26 |
| 00:30.23 | oc80z | hang loose, |
| 00:34.18 | oc80z | what was that. dunno it works. |
| 00:34.47 | oc80z | yeah its ah, 3.12.... hows life eh? |
| 00:35.11 | rwhitby | oc80z: good. so no repeatable test case? |
| 00:35.21 | oc80z | nah, its a clean install. |
| 00:35.41 | oc80z | all clear. |
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| 00:44.26 | scoutcamper | is Jason.Robatie here? |
| 00:44.53 | scoutcamper | i just had my facebook banned, and the only thing that had changed was that i installed the facebook chat patch |
| 00:46.30 | bpadalino | weird |
| 00:46.40 | scoutcamper | yeah |
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| 00:51.48 | oc80z | ur facebook is banned? |
| 00:52.25 | oc80z | i'd like to learn how to ban my self from facebook. |
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| 01:11.17 | rwhitby | egaudet: ping |
| 01:11.44 | scoutcamper | oc80z post profanity or violate the TOS, none of wich i did ... |
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| 01:12.12 | rwhitby | egaudet: virtual keyboard fails to install on 1.4.2 - palmInitFramework200_72.js does not exist |
| 01:12.38 | rwhitby | egaudet: it's palmInitFramework338.js on my 1.4.2 device |
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| 01:48.31 | egaudet | rwhitby, I put the wrong patch version into the 1.4.2 branch, sorry... fixed for 1.4.2-2 |
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| 02:02.27 | rwhitby | egaudet: wow, it sure takes a long time for the postinst script to run |
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| 02:26.55 | Curtiss | Hey |
| 02:27.11 | Curtiss | Anyone have any idea why WebOS Quick Install is telling me it can't get the feeds |
| 02:27.55 | Curtiss | ? |
| 02:27.58 | Curtiss | anyone? |
| 02:28.31 | Curtiss | ia anyone alive? |
| 02:28.48 | zsoc | I don't see Jason here |
| 02:28.55 | zsoc | Not sure anyone else can offer wosqi support |
| 02:29.02 | Curtiss | eh |
| 02:29.04 | Curtiss | damn |
| 02:29.06 | zsoc | What are you trying to use it for? |
| 02:29.12 | Curtiss | to get preware |
| 02:29.19 | zsoc | what OS |
| 02:29.26 | Curtiss | so i can get the virtual keyboard for my Pre |
| 02:29.31 | Curtiss | I'm on vista |
| 02:29.39 | Curtiss | home premium 32bit |
| 02:30.01 | Curtiss | and my pre is WebOS 1.4.1.1 |
| 02:31.13 | Curtiss | any ideas? |
| 02:31.21 | zsoc | novaterm |
| 02:31.27 | Curtiss | huh? |
| 02:31.37 | zsoc | download the sdk, run novaterm, install preware with the bootstrap |
| 02:31.45 | zsoc | or ask nt4cats to get you a copy of his alpha live cd |
| 02:32.03 | Curtiss | hmm |
| 02:32.14 | Curtiss | do you have any idea why it's not being able to connect to the feeds? |
| 02:33.00 | zsoc | maybe you... have.. no internet.. connection? |
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| 02:33.07 | Curtiss | lol |
| 02:33.10 | Curtiss | how is that possible |
| 02:33.14 | Curtiss | I am on this right now |
| 02:33.19 | Curtiss | I have to have internet connection |
| 02:33.23 | zsoc | what version of wosqi |
| 02:33.30 | Curtiss | 3.2.1 |
| 02:33.31 | Curtiss | or w/e |
| 02:33.39 | zsoc | it connects to the pre ok? |
| 02:33.42 | Curtiss | the one the documentation from webos internals says to get |
| 02:33.51 | Curtiss | er it never mentions anything about connecting to the pre |
| 02:34.44 | zsoc | what install guide are you following? |
| 02:37.40 | Curtiss | One that was on youtube and the one from preware |
| 02:38.20 | zsoc | Curtiss: when does it give you that error |
| 02:38.27 | zsoc | does it list the feeds when you click on the little down arrow? |
| 02:38.30 | Curtiss | when I click the blue down arrow |
| 02:38.38 | Curtiss | and it tries to load the fees |
| 02:38.39 | zsoc | interesting |
| 02:38.59 | Curtiss | I have the right doctor thing to |
| 02:39.02 | Curtiss | and it;s in the same folder |
| 02:39.09 | Curtiss | it's* |
| 02:39.32 | Curtiss | maybe my java isn't up to date |
| 02:39.35 | Curtiss | but I swore it was.. |
| 02:39.46 | zsoc | i think you need at least 1.6 |
| 02:40.17 | Curtiss | I'm up to date |
| 02:40.49 | Curtiss | hmm |
| 02:40.55 | zsoc | try the canuck software forum |
| 02:41.00 | zsoc | or install the sdk |
| 02:41.27 | zsoc | or a diff computer |
| 02:42.20 | Curtiss | hmm |
| 02:49.02 | Curtiss | hmmm |
| 02:49.14 | Curtiss | this is going to make me mad |
| 02:52.14 | Curtiss | webos Quick Install shows my device is connected |
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| 02:55.51 | Curtiss_ | Hey |
| 02:55.59 | Curtiss_ | Should I be using the emulater or the usb device |
| 03:00.35 | azakus | hey guys, just a little heads up |
| 03:00.52 | azakus | I'm actually being employed by Palm this summer, so JsTop might get a little... old |
| 03:01.10 | azakus | I don't think I'll have the time, nor the legal ability to do certain things with webos-internals for the time being |
| 03:01.22 | bpadalino | well congrats |
| 03:01.23 | halfhalo | Nice. I wish I could do a summer internship but I already have a job⦠and I have summer classes |
| 03:01.31 | geist | meh, we dont care |
| 03:01.49 | geist | YOU'RE OURS NOW |
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| 03:02.00 | bpadalino | very diabolical |
| 03:02.04 | geist | mwahahaha |
| 03:02.08 | halfhalo | I like where this is heading... |
| 03:02.30 | azakus | the policy regarding webos-internals isn't well defined, so I've decided to just sort of let JsTop take a backseat for now. |
| 03:02.52 | bpadalino | understandable |
| 03:03.04 | Curtiss | Back |
| 03:03.07 | bpadalino | is it a summer co-op/internship thing ? |
| 03:04.15 | azakus | summer internship |
| 03:04.19 | bpadalino | very nice |
| 03:04.24 | halfhalo | yeah |
| 03:04.33 | halfhalo | srsly wish I could do something like that |
| 03:04.43 | bpadalino | azakus: any idea what they have planned for you ? |
| 03:04.57 | azakus | nothing I can talk about |
| 03:05.02 | geist | mwahahaha |
| 03:05.03 | azakus | :) |
| 03:05.46 | bpadalino | well, we know it's not JsTop :) |
| 03:06.04 | halfhalo | Meh, I'll guess I'll have to settle for freelancing for forums and making my own webos stuff |
| 03:06.08 | geist | well,when you get in look me up in SV3 |
| 03:06.25 | geist | you'll know where I sit, cause it's where the awesome happens |
| 03:06.31 | bpadalino | haha |
| 03:06.33 | halfhalo | the toilet? |
| 03:07.23 | geist | :( |
| 03:07.27 | azakus | geist: I'm in sv3 |
| 03:07.29 | azakus | :) |
| 03:07.35 | geist | SV3 for the win |
| 03:08.07 | RagingMind | NDAs are a PITA |
| 03:08.24 | halfhalo | Hence why I never tell anyone anything |
| 03:08.56 | bpadalino | how many buildings does palm have over there ? |
| 03:08.59 | halfhalo | For example. Know one knows my name. Not even me |
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| 03:20.03 | Curtiss | ok my internet was acting up but the feed packages are still not working and my connection is all good now |
| 03:22.13 | Curtiss | Any ideas why WOQI can't connect to the package feeds? |
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| 03:23.15 | yokken | what up #webos-internals |
| 03:23.27 | yokken | everyone who doesn't have work tomorrow HOLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 03:25.40 | Curtiss | I'm just trying to figure why my WOQI isn't working proberly |
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| 03:27.20 | yokken | what's it doing |
| 03:27.21 | Curtiss | is anyone good with the whole preware and webos quick install area? |
| 03:27.28 | yokken | i can try and help |
| 03:27.31 | RagingMind | Curtiss, I had to install ubuntu before I got it to work properly for me :( |
| 03:27.31 | yokken | no guarantees though |
| 03:27.32 | Curtiss | well when I go to bring up the feeds |
| 03:27.44 | Curtiss | it tries to load then |
| 03:27.46 | Curtiss | them* |
| 03:27.54 | Curtiss | and it tells me it could not connect to the package feeds |
| 03:29.29 | Curtiss | any ideas? |
| 03:31.27 | sk1tt1sh | is there a way to manipulate ipk's in windows and see what they're doing? |
| 03:31.50 | Curtiss | idk.. |
| 03:31.57 | Curtiss | idek what you are talking about |
| 03:32.00 | sk1tt1sh | do you have antivirus software curtiss? |
| 03:32.05 | Curtiss | yup |
| 03:32.09 | Curtiss | I have avg |
| 03:32.16 | sk1tt1sh | firewall? |
| 03:32.21 | Curtiss | probably |
| 03:32.22 | Curtiss | why |
| 03:32.34 | sk1tt1sh | see if you have an option to allow wosqi through |
| 03:32.40 | Curtiss | er |
| 03:32.43 | Curtiss | that is a good idea |
| 03:32.47 | sk1tt1sh | lol |
| 03:33.12 | sk1tt1sh | I need some pretty low level help if anyone feels like giving me a hand |
| 03:33.37 | Curtiss | no |
| 03:33.43 | Curtiss | no option |
| 03:33.50 | Curtiss | oh wait |
| 03:33.52 | Curtiss | add program |
| 03:33.54 | sk1tt1sh | windows firewall?. |
| 03:33.56 | sk1tt1sh | oh hehe |
| 03:34.46 | yokken | ugh windows firewall |
| 03:34.48 | Curtiss | would I just select the .jar file? |
| 03:34.49 | yokken | turn that garbage off |
| 03:34.55 | yokken | just turn it off |
| 03:35.08 | yokken | if you have a router (ISR) you'll be fine |
| 03:35.09 | sk1tt1sh | lol |
| 03:35.13 | Curtiss | it can't even find the thingy |
| 03:35.18 | Curtiss | er |
| 03:35.22 | Curtiss | I'm going through my mobile hotspot |
| 03:35.25 | Curtiss | on my pre |
| 03:35.39 | yokken | i wouldn't be too worried |
| 03:35.43 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:36.01 | Curtiss | ok so turn it off |
| 03:36.03 | Curtiss | and try again? |
| 03:36.04 | yokken | yeah |
| 03:36.08 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:36.24 | Curtiss | nope |
| 03:36.28 | Curtiss | same error |
| 03:36.32 | sk1tt1sh | hey im kind askin a way noob question here but if in terminal you type something it like race-car and it opens a "race-car" application how do you find the link? |
| 03:37.19 | Curtiss | well turning my firewall off was a failure |
| 03:37.19 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:37.26 | Curtiss | something must be really fucke dup |
| 03:37.30 | Curtiss | fucked up* |
| 03:38.06 | Curtiss | any ideas now? |
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| 03:38.24 | sk1tt1sh | wosqi can't get feeds on your computer? |
| 03:38.31 | Curtiss | yea |
| 03:38.32 | Curtiss | idk why |
| 03:38.41 | sk1tt1sh | hrm not sure |
| 03:38.48 | yokken | sk1tt1sh |
| 03:38.48 | sk1tt1sh | haven't fukt with it much |
| 03:38.53 | yokken | locate race-car |
| 03:38.53 | Curtiss | when I click that third button it tries to load them and then says Can not connect to package feeds |
| 03:39.04 | yokken | if it's something not super-generic you should be able to find it |
| 03:39.19 | sk1tt1sh | ok so what im looking for is "cricket mms" |
| 03:39.28 | sk1tt1sh | where the heck do i look? |
| 03:39.28 | yokken | what is that |
| 03:39.39 | sk1tt1sh | a little app from an old rom |
| 03:39.41 | yokken | what is the application called |
| 03:39.46 | sk1tt1sh | no idea |
| 03:39.49 | yokken | okay |
| 03:39.52 | yokken | you're in linux? |
| 03:39.53 | sk1tt1sh | i opened terminal on the phone and type that |
| 03:40.03 | sk1tt1sh | then it did some things |
| 03:40.07 | yokken | you type, at the prompt, "cricket mms"? |
| 03:40.08 | sk1tt1sh | sadly no im on win7 |
| 03:40.13 | sk1tt1sh | yes |
| 03:40.19 | yokken | i meant the terminal is in linux |
| 03:40.27 | yokken | well "cricket" is the binary name |
| 03:40.27 | sk1tt1sh | the phone terminal |
| 03:40.34 | yokken | "mms" must be an argument of some sort |
| 03:40.48 | yokken | usually those come with - and locations are just "mms" but |
| 03:40.50 | yokken | okay |
| 03:40.52 | yokken | uhh |
| 03:40.55 | yokken | type "locate cricket" |
| 03:41.00 | sk1tt1sh | cant... |
| 03:41.03 | sk1tt1sh | updated the phoone |
| 03:41.16 | sk1tt1sh | I pulled the rom apart though with winrar |
| 03:41.31 | yokken | i'm confused |
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| 03:41.43 | yokken | MOST things are in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin |
| 03:41.52 | yokken | if they run at ANY location in the terminal, they're there |
| 03:41.54 | yokken | one or the other |
| 03:42.30 | sk1tt1sh | ok |
| 03:42.33 | sk1tt1sh | one sec hehe |
| 03:42.37 | Curtiss | stupid woqi |
| 03:42.40 | yokken | wosqi |
| 03:42.46 | Curtiss | yea |
| 03:42.51 | Curtiss | It's pissing me off |
| 03:42.51 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:42.54 | yokken | just go into the terminal and run the preware bootstrap |
| 03:42.57 | yokken | wosqi is useless |
| 03:43.06 | yokken | unless you need to manually install an app or something |
| 03:43.08 | Curtiss | what is the preware bootstrap |
| 03:43.11 | Curtiss | and what is a terminal |
| 03:43.11 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:43.17 | yokken | sigh |
| 03:43.18 | yokken | okay |
| 03:43.23 | yokken | you want to install preware, yeah? |
| 03:43.28 | Curtiss | yea |
| 03:43.31 | yokken | is your pre in developer mode |
| 03:43.34 | Curtiss | so I can get that virtual soft keyboard |
| 03:43.35 | yokken | and do you have evdo |
| 03:43.36 | Curtiss | and yes it is |
| 03:43.40 | yokken | k |
| 03:43.46 | Curtiss | it's showing my 3g |
| 03:43.50 | Curtiss | not my evdo |
| 03:43.51 | yokken | in wosqi there should be like a tools menu |
| 03:43.58 | yokken | and then like terminal or something |
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| 03:44.07 | yokken | you see it? |
| 03:44.14 | Curtiss | Linux Command Line? |
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| 03:44.16 | yokken | yes |
| 03:44.21 | sk1tt1sh | are there any good virtual emulators that i could load that rom image for the pre? |
| 03:44.21 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:44.28 | yokken | it should say like root-webos-device:# or something |
| 03:44.34 | yokken | sk1tt1sh: virtualbox |
| 03:44.36 | sk1tt1sh | like a virtual pre |
| 03:44.39 | sk1tt1sh | k |
| 03:44.43 | yokken | it's said BY the SDK |
| 03:44.45 | yokken | lol |
| 03:44.48 | sk1tt1sh | will it work on 64 bit? |
| 03:44.49 | Curtiss | root@palm-webos-device: |
| 03:44.53 | yokken | k |
| 03:44.55 | Curtiss | it says that |
| 03:44.59 | yokken | type this: without quotes |
| 03:45.03 | yokken | "cd /tmp" |
| 03:45.07 | yokken | enter |
| 03:45.19 | yokken | "wget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap" |
| 03:45.22 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:45.29 | yokken | enter |
| 03:45.42 | yokken | "sh preware-bootstrap" |
| 03:45.43 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:46.00 | Curtiss | please wait... |
| 03:46.03 | yokken | hit n when it asks about alpha |
| 03:46.08 | yokken | then you're done. |
| 03:46.20 | Curtiss | and it will be on my pre? |
| 03:46.25 | yokken | yep |
| 03:46.27 | yokken | what does it say |
| 03:46.39 | Curtiss | well fuck why didn't we just do this in the first place? |
| 03:46.39 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:46.47 | yokken | you asked about feeds |
| 03:46.52 | Curtiss | oh lol |
| 03:46.55 | yokken | don't assume people know what you want |
| 03:46.58 | Curtiss | and it still says please wait |
| 03:47.06 | yokken | after what |
| 03:47.08 | yokken | the wget or the sh |
| 03:47.20 | Curtiss | root@palm-webos-device: cd /tmpwget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap Connecting to bit.ly (128.121.254.129:80) preware-bootstrap 0% | | 0 --:--:-- ETA preware-bootstrap 100% |*******************************| 7797 00:00:00 ETA root@palm-webos-device: sh preware-bootstrap |
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| 03:47.40 | Curtiss | after that |
| 03:47.54 | yokken | so after "sh preware-bootstrap"? |
| 03:47.54 | Curtiss | so after sh |
| 03:47.57 | yokken | k |
| 03:48.05 | yokken | do you have the SDK installed? |
| 03:48.09 | Curtiss | er |
| 03:48.12 | Curtiss | probably not |
| 03:48.13 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:48.16 | yokken | that's fine |
| 03:48.16 | Curtiss | whats the sdk? |
| 03:48.22 | yokken | software development kit |
| 03:48.29 | Curtiss | er probably not |
| 03:48.32 | yokken | k well in the terminal |
| 03:48.36 | yokken | hit ctrl-c |
| 03:48.44 | yokken | and it should go back to root-webos-device: |
| 03:48.48 | yokken | er, palm |
| 03:48.49 | yokken | lol |
| 03:49.02 | Curtiss | er |
| 03:49.05 | yokken | ? |
| 03:49.06 | Curtiss | it's not |
| 03:49.15 | yokken | umm |
| 03:49.23 | yokken | just, even though it doesn't show anything |
| 03:49.28 | yokken | just type "n" and then hit enter |
| 03:49.33 | yokken | and see what happens |
| 03:49.41 | Curtiss | I can't type in the spot |
| 03:49.45 | yokken | why |
| 03:49.49 | Curtiss | it has that blocked off and greyed out |
| 03:49.52 | yokken | lol |
| 03:49.53 | Curtiss | cuz it says pelase wait still |
| 03:49.54 | Curtiss | please* |
| 03:50.00 | yokken | screenshot |
| 03:50.09 | yokken | is WOSQI saying please wait, or is LINUX saying please wait? |
| 03:50.19 | Curtiss | the linux command thingy |
| 03:50.23 | sk1tt1sh | lol wosqi wont even see my phone weak |
| 03:50.25 | yokken | wosqi |
| 03:51.12 | Curtiss | http://screensnapr.com/u/i/o93yrf.png |
| 03:51.12 | yokken | k curtiss, task manager and end wosqi |
| 03:51.13 | Curtiss | err take the I out |
| 03:51.13 | Curtiss | for no ads |
| 03:51.13 | yokken | i don't see ads |
| 03:51.13 | yokken | oh the beauty of adblock plus |
| 03:51.14 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:51.14 | Curtiss | nice |
| 03:51.16 | yokken | k so end it with task manager |
| 03:51.19 | Curtiss | my friend and his brother made snapr |
| 03:51.20 | Curtiss | i love it |
| 03:51.30 | Curtiss | k I ended it |
| 03:51.30 | Curtiss | now what |
| 03:51.41 | yokken | open it again |
| 03:51.43 | yokken | lol |
| 03:51.46 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:51.49 | Curtiss | I already did that |
| 03:51.55 | yokken | open the terminal again |
| 03:52.11 | Curtiss | alright |
| 03:52.19 | yokken | oh man you forgot to hit enter after "cd /tmp" |
| 03:52.20 | yokken | lol |
| 03:52.33 | Curtiss | did i? |
| 03:52.34 | yokken | k terminal open |
| 03:52.36 | yokken | yes |
| 03:52.40 | Curtiss | yes it is |
| 03:52.41 | yokken | you typed "cd /tmpwget asdf" |
| 03:52.48 | yokken | k so type "cd /tmp" ENTER |
| 03:52.58 | Curtiss | yup |
| 03:52.58 | yokken | "wget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap" ENTER |
| 03:53.08 | yokken | "sh preware-bootstrap" ENTER |
| 03:53.46 | Curtiss | hmm the wget one |
| 03:53.53 | Curtiss | didn't get the preware-bootstrap files |
| 03:54.01 | yokken | ? |
| 03:54.14 | Curtiss | http://screensnapr.com/u/i/ygtmjh.png |
| 03:54.28 | yokken | ah k |
| 03:54.30 | yokken | it worked fine last time |
| 03:54.39 | yokken | just do "sh preware-bootstrap" this time |
| 03:54.41 | Curtiss | yea dk what's going on this time |
| 03:54.48 | yokken | it's already there, like it says |
| 03:54.49 | sk1tt1sh | ok yokken i figured out the emulatorr. how do I use a custom webos jar? |
| 03:55.02 | yokken | sk1tt1sh: where would you get a custom webos jar |
| 03:55.10 | sk1tt1sh | i have one |
| 03:55.17 | yokken | how is it custom |
| 03:55.25 | sk1tt1sh | its a modded webos doctor |
| 03:55.30 | yokken | it won't work |
| 03:55.33 | sk1tt1sh | ... |
| 03:55.40 | yokken | doctor binaries are ARM, emulator runs in i686 |
| 03:55.47 | sk1tt1sh | shit |
| 03:55.58 | yokken | yes |
| 03:55.59 | Curtiss | is it supposed to do this please wait shit in the command line? |
| 03:56.00 | yokken | shit indeed |
| 03:56.01 | sk1tt1sh | can I just copy some of the stuff |
| 03:56.04 | yokken | no, Curtiss |
| 03:56.08 | Curtiss | lol |
| 03:56.11 | Curtiss | it's doing it again |
| 03:56.11 | yokken | sk1tt1sh: believe me, i tried |
| 03:56.16 | sk1tt1sh | like out of the webosdoc jar into the em |
| 03:56.20 | yokken | yeah my guess is it doesn't like it |
| 03:56.23 | yokken | try this curtiss |
| 03:56.30 | yokken | force kill wosqi again |
| 03:56.44 | yokken | sk1tt1sh: i tried, i put all the js from doctor into the emu shit |
| 03:56.45 | yokken | it didn't work |
| 03:56.53 | sk1tt1sh | fuck |
| 03:56.53 | Curtiss | force killed |
| 03:57.00 | sk1tt1sh | this phone is my arch nemiss |
| 03:57.01 | yokken | Curtiss: open wosqi, go back into terminal |
| 03:57.03 | yokken | "cd /tmp" |
| 03:57.10 | yokken | "chmod +x preware-bootstrap" |
| 03:57.21 | yokken | "./preware-bootstrap;n: |
| 03:57.23 | yokken | fuck |
| 03:57.30 | yokken | "./preware-bootstrap;n" |
| 03:57.34 | yokken | it SHOULD work |
| 03:57.53 | Curtiss | do I do enter after cd /tmp |
| 03:57.58 | yokken | yes |
| 03:58.03 | yokken | after each line i type, hit enter |
| 03:58.12 | yokken | ignore the one after chmod |
| 03:58.15 | yokken | i screwed it up |
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| 03:59.13 | yokken | Curtiss: where you at? |
| 03:59.27 | Curtiss | do I do ./preware-boostrap;n |
| 03:59.29 | Curtiss | ? |
| 03:59.30 | yokken | yes |
| 03:59.32 | Curtiss | k |
| 03:59.40 | yokken | it SHOULD enter the n for you |
| 03:59.47 | Curtiss | errr |
| 03:59.49 | Curtiss | oh |
| 03:59.58 | Curtiss | I wasn't supposed to do the n? |
| 03:59.58 | yokken | and wosqi HOPEFULLY will say please wait but then stop and update the terminal |
| 04:00.00 | yokken | no, you were |
| 04:00.01 | yokken | lol |
| 04:00.06 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:00.08 | yokken | i mean, the bootstrap asks if you wanna do alpha |
| 04:00.12 | Curtiss | well it's on please wait |
| 04:00.14 | yokken | you just hit "n" and hit enter |
| 04:00.24 | yokken | so you typed ./preware-bootstrap;n |
| 04:00.25 | yokken | right? |
| 04:00.38 | sk1tt1sh | lord have mercy |
| 04:00.39 | Curtiss | root@palm-webos-device: cd /tmp root@palm-webos-device: chmod +x preware-bootstrap root@palm-webos-device: ./preware-bootstrap;n |
| 04:00.57 | Curtiss | that's what I did |
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| 04:01.00 | yokken | good |
| 04:01.01 | Curtiss | it's still on please wait |
| 04:01.04 | yokken | it's STILL? |
| 04:01.04 | yokken | fuck |
| 04:01.09 | Curtiss | lol |
| 04:01.11 | yokken | you might end up having to use wosqi lol |
| 04:01.13 | Curtiss | something must be wrong |
| 04:01.17 | yokken | or install the SDK |
| 04:01.19 | yokken | actually |
| 04:01.24 | Curtiss | link? |
| 04:01.28 | yokken | google "webos novaterm windows download" |
| 04:01.32 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:01.32 | yokken | hang on i'll find it for you |
| 04:01.38 | Curtiss | alright |
| 04:01.55 | yokken | OH |
| 04:01.59 | yokken | do you have putty? |
| 04:02.07 | Curtiss | putty? |
| 04:02.14 | yokken | http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe |
| 04:02.21 | yokken | download (it's safe, don't worry) |
| 04:02.25 | Curtiss | what is it |
| 04:02.28 | yokken | an ssh client |
| 04:02.36 | Curtiss | k install it? |
| 04:02.38 | Curtiss | lol |
| 04:02.53 | yokken | no it doesn't need to be installed |
| 04:02.59 | Curtiss | oh |
| 04:02.59 | Curtiss | ok |
| 04:03.06 | yokken | is your pre on wifi? |
| 04:03.12 | Curtiss | does it need to be in the same spot as my wosqi? |
| 04:03.32 | Curtiss | and I am using my pre to get online on my laptop with mobile hotspot |
| 04:03.35 | yokken | lol |
| 04:03.38 | yokken | good call |
| 04:03.44 | yokken | well fuck. |
| 04:03.48 | yokken | you'll need the SDK then |
| 04:03.52 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:03.56 | yokken | which will be OH SO FUN over 3G |
| 04:03.56 | yokken | lol |
| 04:04.03 | Curtiss | is it big? |
| 04:04.05 | yokken | yes |
| 04:04.08 | Curtiss | fuck |
| 04:04.16 | Curtiss | how big? |
| 04:04.33 | yokken | 64-bit or 32-bit |
| 04:04.47 | Curtiss | 32bit |
| 04:04.57 | yokken | 206mb |
| 04:05.09 | Curtiss | fuck |
| 04:05.14 | Curtiss | I just downloaded webdoctor |
| 04:05.15 | Curtiss | at 204 |
| 04:05.18 | Curtiss | it took forever |
| 04:05.20 | sk1tt1sh | hehehe |
| 04:05.36 | yokken | lol |
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| 04:05.42 | Curtiss | this is so shitty |
| 04:05.43 | yokken | well hm |
| 04:05.56 | yokken | i'm trying to find a way to see if you can get novaterm without the entire sdk |
| 04:05.59 | sk1tt1z | ok lets use mirc thats better |
| 04:06.13 | Curtiss | oh shit I should bring this chat up in my xchat |
| 04:06.14 | Curtiss | lol |
| 04:06.19 | yokken | SCORE |
| 04:06.20 | yokken | i got this |
| 04:06.32 | Curtiss | nvm i'll stay here |
| 04:06.42 | Curtiss | you found my problem? |
| 04:06.46 | yokken | yeah |
| 04:06.47 | yokken | i got it |
| 04:06.52 | yokken | k the doctor image |
| 04:06.53 | Curtiss | no big files? |
| 04:06.56 | yokken | nope! |
| 04:07.07 | yokken | make a copy on your desktop and change the extension to .zip |
| 04:07.21 | Curtiss | oh it was already on my desktop |
| 04:07.22 | Curtiss | lol |
| 04:07.27 | Curtiss | so should I take it off? |
| 04:07.33 | yokken | nah just make a copy |
| 04:07.40 | yokken | so you don't fudge up the legit |
| 04:07.51 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:07.55 | Curtiss | how do I turn filenames on |
| 04:08.02 | yokken | uhh |
| 04:08.04 | yokken | lol |
| 04:08.07 | Curtiss | so I can change it to a zip |
| 04:08.13 | yokken | it should say .jar |
| 04:08.16 | yokken | nvm |
| 04:08.21 | yokken | go into any folder |
| 04:08.28 | yokken | do you know how to open folder options |
| 04:08.36 | Curtiss | what? |
| 04:08.42 | yokken | k. |
| 04:08.45 | yokken | w7? |
| 04:08.54 | Curtiss | vista |
| 04:09.02 | yokken | k |
| 04:09.05 | yokken | open any folder |
| 04:09.10 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:09.22 | yokken | there should either be a button that says Folder Options, or there's a little button on the far right that has a down arrow on it |
| 04:09.30 | yokken | and if you click it, it should say like Folder and Search Options |
| 04:10.37 | Curtiss | I'm not seeing it |
| 04:11.10 | Curtiss | found it |
| 04:11.12 | Curtiss | under organize |
| 04:11.55 | yokken | yep |
| 04:12.02 | yokken | go to the View tab |
| 04:12.06 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:12.16 | yokken | then find something in there like "hide extensions for known filetypes" |
| 04:12.19 | yokken | uncheck it |
| 04:12.33 | yokken | also, while you're at it, click "show all files" instead of "don't show hidden files and folders" |
| 04:12.37 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:12.59 | yokken | k now go back to desktop |
| 04:13.10 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:13.15 | yokken | rename the copy to .zip |
| 04:13.36 | Curtiss | done |
| 04:14.09 | Curtiss | now what? |
| 04:14.33 | yokken | now open it up |
| 04:14.50 | yokken | there's a few files in there and whatnot |
| 04:14.55 | Curtiss | opened |
| 04:15.01 | Curtiss | folders |
| 04:15.02 | Curtiss | yes |
| 04:15.04 | yokken | try to find webosdoctor100ewwsprint |
| 04:15.09 | yokken | or resources |
| 04:15.14 | Curtiss | er I have the verizon one |
| 04:15.18 | yokken | that's fine |
| 04:15.22 | Curtiss | so verizon instead of spritn? |
| 04:15.24 | Curtiss | sprint* |
| 04:15.29 | yokken | whatever folder it's in |
| 04:15.29 | yokken | yes |
| 04:15.34 | yokken | it'll be a .jar i believe |
| 04:16.43 | Curtiss | hmm |
| 04:16.45 | Curtiss | I'm not seeing it |
| 04:17.31 | Curtiss | that's weird |
| 04:18.18 | Curtiss | it's not in there |
| 04:18.26 | yokken | it's fine |
| 04:18.30 | yokken | are you seeing ANY jars? |
| 04:18.32 | yokken | you should be |
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| 04:19.29 | Curtiss | no |
| 04:19.32 | Curtiss | I don't see any jars |
| 04:20.03 | yokken | what |
| 04:20.06 | yokken | any zips? |
| 04:20.38 | Curtiss | yea |
| 04:20.41 | Curtiss | or |
| 04:20.47 | Curtiss | .tar |
| 04:20.52 | yokken | OH the tar |
| 04:20.54 | Curtiss | and .pkg.tar.gz |
| 04:20.56 | yokken | what is the tar called |
| 04:21.04 | Curtiss | there is a verizon.tar |
| 04:21.09 | Curtiss | webOS.tar |
| 04:21.16 | yokken | like webosdoctor100ewwverizon? |
| 04:21.16 | yokken | lol |
| 04:21.28 | Curtiss | should I go into the verizon.tar? |
| 04:21.40 | Curtiss | or the webOS.tar |
| 04:21.42 | yokken | sure |
| 04:21.45 | yokken | webOS.tar |
| 04:22.57 | Curtiss | nope |
| 04:22.59 | Curtiss | nothing |
| 04:23.34 | Curtiss | this is what is in the webOS.tar |
| 04:23.34 | Curtiss | http://screensnapr.com/u/i/s2zyur.png |
| 04:25.32 | Curtiss | any ideas? |
| 04:26.12 | yokken | yes |
| 04:26.18 | yokken | take out the nova-cust-image |
| 04:26.25 | yokken | and unarchive that |
| 04:26.41 | Curtiss | unarchive what? |
| 04:27.29 | yokken | the .tar.gz |
| 04:27.42 | yokken | you're on a pixi eh |
| 04:28.02 | Curtiss | no |
| 04:28.09 | Curtiss | this was supposed to be for the pre |
| 04:28.32 | Curtiss | fuck |
| 04:28.34 | yokken | k ignore that |
| 04:28.36 | yokken | dude IGNORE IT |
| 04:28.37 | Curtiss | er |
| 04:28.38 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:28.39 | Curtiss | lol |
| 04:28.39 | yokken | just take it out |
| 04:28.40 | yokken | lol |
| 04:28.55 | Curtiss | should I just delete the whole tar.gz? |
| 04:30.02 | yokken | no |
| 04:30.05 | yokken | extract it |
| 04:30.06 | yokken | fuck |
| 04:30.09 | yokken | lol |
| 04:30.13 | Curtiss | lol |
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| 04:33.07 | Curtiss | do you want me to extract inside that .tar? |
| 04:33.12 | Curtiss | cuz it won't let me |
| 04:33.23 | Curtiss | the .tar.gz is inside webos.tar |
| 04:33.54 | yokken | yes |
| 04:33.59 | yokken | no |
| 04:34.09 | yokken | put the webos-cust-image on your desktop |
| 04:34.11 | yokken | ffffffffffff |
| 04:35.19 | Curtiss | do you just want to connect to me with team viewer and do it? |
| 04:35.34 | Curtiss | I feel like that will be quicker than you telling me what to do |
| 04:36.11 | yokken | yes |
| 04:36.15 | Curtiss | ? |
| 04:36.17 | Curtiss | k |
| 04:36.32 | Curtiss | 117 355 672 |
| 04:36.38 | yokken | aight lemme dl the client |
| 04:38.08 | Curtiss | sent you the id and pass in that private chat |
| 04:42.14 | Curtiss | so..? |
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| 05:07.32 | Curtiss | Ok yokken |
| 05:07.35 | Curtiss | lol |
| 05:07.41 | Curtiss | told you it was going to go off |
| 05:08.00 | Curtiss | You still there? |
| 05:08.14 | egaudet | zsoc, you around? |
| 05:08.35 | Curtiss | HEY |
| 05:08.37 | Curtiss | Egaudet |
| 05:08.43 | Curtiss | you are from precentral |
| 05:08.57 | Curtiss | can you help me with wosqi |
| 05:09.17 | egaudet | I don't know anything about wosqi really |
| 05:09.21 | Curtiss | oh |
| 05:09.22 | egaudet | sorry |
| 05:09.22 | Curtiss | damnit |
| 05:09.23 | Curtiss | lol |
| 05:09.40 | Curtiss | it's telling me it cant connect to the package feeds |
| 05:09.46 | egaudet | I don't know much of anything these days :P |
| 05:09.51 | Curtiss | and yokken was trying to help me get preware a different way |
| 05:09.59 | Curtiss | but nothing was working |
| 05:10.18 | egaudet | I don't know what the status or recommended way is these days but I always use the boostrap |
| 05:10.23 | egaudet | bootstrap* |
| 05:10.28 | Curtiss | we tried |
| 05:10.44 | Curtiss | it wasn't working for some reason |
| 05:11.28 | Curtiss | I think he has it all figured out |
| 05:21.04 | TheSavaLord | rod if you are around that bypass bugs not only fixed the phone/email close. I haven't had a luna restart since.. |
| 05:25.32 | yokken | lol it worked |
| 05:25.46 | yokken | egaudet, his problem was that wosqi locked up when he typed "sh preware-bootstrap" |
| 05:25.52 | Curtiss | woot yoken |
| 05:25.53 | yokken | so we had to get novaterm and do it like that |
| 05:25.53 | Curtiss | got that shit |
| 05:25.54 | Curtiss | son |
| 05:26.19 | Curtiss | good thing I'm a failure with computers when it comes to that background technical shit |
| 05:26.55 | egaudet | yeah novaterm is the way to go |
| 05:27.11 | yokken | novaterm rapes |
| 05:27.19 | yokken | so much harder on windows though man, jeez |
| 05:27.30 | yokken | on mac it's like run the pkg, open terminal, type novaterm, DONE |
| 05:27.38 | yokken | oh linux |
| 05:28.03 | TheSavaLord | most likely because mac os is BSD |
| 05:28.12 | yokken | based off it, yes |
| 05:28.40 | Curtiss | hey what is the keyboard under? |
| 05:28.55 | egaudet | Doesn't the PDK come with novaterm? |
| 05:29.16 | TheSavaLord | the vk |
| 05:29.33 | TheSavaLord | webos internals feed |
| 05:29.38 | yokken | i think it's only in alpha feed though |
| 05:29.40 | yokken | testing feed |
| 05:30.19 | egaudet | the vkb is in the patches feed |
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| 05:30.50 | Curtiss_ | ok back |
| 05:30.53 | TheSavaLord | webos internals under patchs |
| 05:30.56 | Curtiss_ | hit my fucking wireless shit |
| 05:31.04 | Curtiss_ | under patches |
| 05:31.05 | Curtiss_ | alright |
| 05:32.21 | Curtiss_ | install and update theme? |
| 05:32.23 | TheSavaLord | I have had it installed before adding the testing feed so it's in the normal webos internals feed |
| 05:32.44 | yokken | virtual keyboard is cool but it came up too many times when i didn't want it to |
| 05:33.03 | Curtiss_ | hmm |
| 05:33.12 | Curtiss_ | well i want it |
| 05:33.16 | yokken | /nick Curtiss |
| 05:33.30 | TheSavaLord | I have it but don't use it much |
| 05:33.55 | Curtiss | ok it says downloading/installing SUCCESS |
| 05:34.04 | Curtiss | but that thing is still circling |
| 05:34.20 | yokken | give it a bit |
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| 05:34.33 | Curtiss | wat does that mean? |
| 05:34.36 | Curtiss | k |
| 05:35.16 | Curtiss | I think it forze my phone.. |
| 05:35.24 | yokken | lol |
| 05:35.28 | yokken | just give it a bit |
| 05:35.29 | Curtiss | is that possible? |
| 05:35.37 | Curtiss | fucker |
| 05:35.45 | Curtiss | it did the pretend restart thingy |
| 05:36.01 | yokken | lol |
| 05:36.03 | yokken | luna restart |
| 05:36.28 | Curtiss | isn't luna the linux thing? |
| 05:36.44 | yokken | it's the window manager, essentially |
| 05:37.01 | Curtiss | oh hey can I get rid of wosqi and wosd |
| 05:37.10 | Curtiss | cuz I have no need for them now right? |
| 05:37.19 | TheSavaLord | using it now lol\n |
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| 05:38.32 | Curtiss | wth |
| 05:38.42 | Curtiss | so it restarted the phone or w.e |
| 05:38.50 | Curtiss | wait |
| 05:38.54 | Curtiss | you have to be in something to type |
| 05:38.57 | Curtiss | for it to come up |
| 05:38.58 | Curtiss | don't you? |
| 05:39.05 | Curtiss | lol |
| 05:39.10 | Curtiss | im tired |
| 05:40.25 | yokken | yes you do |
| 05:40.51 | yokken | i think the activation is tapping the center where the ball usually is (you're on pre plus) twice |
| 05:41.05 | yokken | it was for me anyway |
| 05:41.09 | TheSavaLord | like in here\n |
| 05:41.24 | Curtiss | it;s not working |
| 05:41.28 | yokken | lol\n |
| 05:41.33 | Curtiss | hmm |
| 05:41.37 | yokken | well figure it out |
| 05:41.44 | yokken | go back into preware and see if it says that it's installed |
| 05:42.09 | TheSavaLord | shouldn't you restart luna |
| 05:42.18 | yokken | it already did |
| 05:42.19 | yokken | lol |
| 05:42.54 | TheSavaLord | do the double click then wait 3 secs |
| 05:43.18 | Curtiss | i did.. |
| 05:43.56 | TheSavaLord | when I first installed it I never gave it time to pop up. do you have a pre + |
| 05:44.32 | Curtiss | er |
| 05:44.32 | Curtiss | idk |
| 05:44.41 | yokken | yes |
| 05:44.44 | yokken | vzw |
| 05:44.48 | yokken | it's called the pre plus, dude |
| 05:44.48 | yokken | lol |
| 05:44.52 | Curtiss | oh |
| 05:44.54 | Curtiss | i wasnt sure |
| 05:44.55 | TheSavaLord | do it to the right of the lited line |
| 05:44.58 | Curtiss | I wasnt there when I got it |
| 05:45.39 | Curtiss | yea nothing.. |
| 05:46.22 | TheSavaLord | there is like a sweet spot hard to find at the begining |
| 05:46.47 | Curtiss | do you double tap |
| 05:46.47 | Curtiss | quickly |
| 05:46.50 | Curtiss | or double finger |
| 05:46.58 | TheSavaLord | double tap |
| 05:47.08 | TheSavaLord | quick |
| 05:47.38 | Curtiss | I'm going to look at some youtube vids |
| 05:47.43 | Curtiss | see if I can watch soimeone else tap it |
| 05:47.48 | yokken | k |
| 05:47.48 | Curtiss | see where they hit i |
| 05:47.49 | Curtiss | it |
| 05:47.57 | yokken | does preware say it's installed? |
| 05:47.58 | TheSavaLord | ok |
| 05:48.01 | yokken | like is it still in the list |
| 05:48.03 | yokken | where you found it |
| 05:50.46 | Curtiss | fucking tits |
| 05:50.55 | Curtiss | no one has a plus |
| 05:51.01 | Curtiss | all the videos are normal ones with the ball |
| 05:51.19 | Curtiss | and yes |
| 05:51.23 | Curtiss | or no |
| 05:51.23 | TheSavaLord | think of the line as the ball |
| 05:51.27 | yokken | lol |
| 05:51.27 | Curtiss | it is under installed ones |
| 05:51.35 | Curtiss | under patch |
| 05:52.13 | egaudet | alright supertux is "fixed" |
| 05:52.16 | egaudet | good night |
| 05:52.18 | TheSavaLord | get as close to hitting the line as you can |
| 05:52.26 | yokken | bye egaudet :) |
| 05:52.33 | TheSavaLord | nite |
| 05:52.49 | Curtiss | I tried |
| 05:52.51 | Curtiss | nothing works |
| 05:53.19 | egaudet | are you talking about vkb? |
| 05:53.44 | Curtiss | yea |
| 05:53.54 | Curtiss | I can't find the spot on my pre plus to make it come up |
| 05:53.57 | TheSavaLord | curtis do you have an app open that has txt |
| 05:54.08 | Curtiss | ytea |
| 05:54.11 | egaudet | tap the gesture area twice and then wait 3-5 seconds. The gesture bar, not the middle core button/light thing |
| 05:54.12 | TheSavaLord | where you can type in |
| 05:54.14 | Curtiss | the web.. |
| 05:54.24 | egaudet | don't tap a 3rd time or it will disappear before you see it |
| 05:54.36 | Curtiss | the adress bar.. |
| 05:55.14 | Curtiss | naw its not workin |
| 05:55.36 | egaudet | verify it was installed correctly |
| 05:55.39 | egaudet | in novaterm type |
| 05:55.53 | egaudet | md5sum /usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework338.js |
| 05:55.56 | yokken | he aint gonna open up novaterm again |
| 05:55.56 | yokken | lol |
| 05:55.56 | Curtiss | uh? |
| 05:56.01 | Curtiss | lol |
| 05:56.13 | yokken | Curtiss, just go remove it and then install it again. |
| 05:56.19 | Curtiss | k |
| 05:56.26 | Curtiss | fucking a |
| 05:56.45 | Curtiss | it downloads the feeds every time I lunch preware |
| 05:56.50 | Curtiss | is that in prefernces? |
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| 05:58.32 | Curtiss | wats this installed is available in the preferences |
| 06:01.05 | ka6sox | Curtiss, it tries to stay updated...nothing worse than getting a stale app. |
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| 06:04.33 | Curtiss | yea true |
| 06:05.37 | Curtiss | my main screen for preware looks different than eduaget's in that video he did |
| 06:08.52 | Curtiss | he has application updates, available applications, available patches, installed applications and list of everything |
| 06:08.59 | Curtiss | is there a way to change it to show certain things? |
| 06:09.13 | ka6sox | Darned Coyote. |
| 06:11.24 | Curtiss | k reinstalling vk |
| 06:11.31 | ka6sox | k |
| 06:11.42 | Curtiss | hopefully I can get it to pull up this time |
| 06:11.47 | yokken | oh hey ka6sox |
| 06:11.54 | yokken | why do i remember you specifically |
| 06:11.58 | yokken | what did we talk about recently |
| 06:12.01 | ka6sox | yo yo yokken |
| 06:12.03 | ka6sox | Women |
| 06:12.08 | yokken | hahahaha yes |
| 06:12.12 | Curtiss | lol |
| 06:12.18 | TheSavaLord | lol |
| 06:12.23 | Curtiss | I'm guessing it was a great convo |
| 06:12.29 | ka6sox | :) |
| 06:12.33 | Curtiss | and very humorous |
| 06:13.33 | Curtiss | I'm getting tired |
| 06:13.44 | Curtiss | but this humidity and heat is fucking terrible |
| 06:14.03 | Curtiss | and I'm waiting for vk to finish |
| 06:14.26 | Curtiss | I wish it would just luna restart already |
| 06:14.35 | ka6sox | ssh root@10.0.1.3 |
| 06:14.51 | yokken | humidity in minnesota is awful |
| 06:15.14 | TheSavaLord | try florida |
| 06:15.20 | Curtiss | my brother doesn't even get bothered by it here |
| 06:15.23 | Curtiss | he lives in florida |
| 06:15.25 | ka6sox | try california desert. |
| 06:15.27 | Curtiss | so Michigan is nothing |
| 06:15.43 | Curtiss | my brother lives in the Pan Handle of florida on the golf |
| 06:15.45 | Curtiss | gulf* |
| 06:16.01 | Curtiss | so he was wearing jeans up here todya and it was 80 degrees |
| 06:16.03 | TheSavaLord | tampa here |
| 06:16.18 | Curtiss | FUCKING VK! |
| 06:16.23 | Curtiss | FUCKING FINISH |
| 06:16.51 | yokken | minnesota it was 95F and like 80% humidity today |
| 06:16.55 | yokken | heat index of like 100F |
| 06:17.10 | Curtiss | fuck |
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| 06:17.22 | Curtiss | it was only like 84 at the highest today with about 66% humidity |
| 06:17.39 | Curtiss | it must blow ass in minnesota |
| 06:17.54 | ka6sox | 72 and 10% |
| 06:18.12 | yokken | it blows ass |
| 06:18.25 | yokken | minnesota is a hotbox in the summer and an icebox in the winter |
| 06:18.25 | Curtiss | yea it didn't install right last time |
| 06:18.28 | Curtiss | something happened last time |
| 06:18.30 | yokken | but fall is real nice :) |
| 06:18.35 | yokken | go into the ipkg log |
| 06:18.36 | Curtiss | oh winter is shitty in michigan |
| 06:18.39 | Curtiss | fucking hate it |
| 06:18.42 | Curtiss | no its good this time |
| 06:18.54 | ka6sox | winter where I live....72 and 10% |
| 06:18.59 | Curtiss | it actually brought up the box that said |
| 06:19.06 | Curtiss | luna restart required |
| 06:19.11 | Curtiss | I clicked ok.. |
| 06:19.12 | yokken | lol |
| 06:19.13 | yokken | good |
| 06:19.15 | Curtiss | why isn't it doing it |
| 06:19.23 | HotDP | Can someone in here help me with a Ajax.Request / Activity problem? |
| 06:19.23 | Curtiss | it just went to the vk page |
| 06:19.47 | Curtiss | yokkhen how do I do a luna restart? |
| 06:19.54 | Curtiss | it didn't do it's own |
| 06:20.10 | ka6sox | HotDP, sorry I'm not an ajax guy. |
| 06:20.36 | yokken | in preware, tap the little thing in the top left |
| 06:20.36 | Curtiss | how do I do luna restart on my pre guys? |
| 06:20.36 | yokken | go to luna manager |
| 06:20.37 | HotDP | oki :-S |
| 06:20.40 | Curtiss | oh |
| 06:20.40 | Curtiss | k |
| 06:20.41 | Curtiss | :) |
| 06:20.57 | Curtiss | this phone gets so fucking hot |
| 06:21.03 | Curtiss | I don't get that |
| 06:21.44 | Curtiss | wait do Palm's use linux? |
| 06:21.52 | Curtiss | like webOS is a form of linux? |
| 06:22.05 | Curtiss | or just preware does something with linux? |
| 06:22.26 | ka6sox | um...maybe? |
| 06:22.40 | ka6sox | webOS is a distro of linux. |
| 06:22.51 | Curtiss | k |
| 06:22.53 | Curtiss | makes sense |
| 06:23.03 | Curtiss | cuz I knew luna was to do with linux |
| 06:23.14 | Curtiss | it's like the name of .. I forget the word |
| 06:23.15 | yokken | i've never seen luna before linux |
| 06:23.17 | yokken | a distro? |
| 06:23.21 | yokken | a window manager? |
| 06:23.36 | ka6sox | Luna is The Moon? |
| 06:23.54 | HotDP | +ka6sox i dont know if it is a Ajax problem or a generel WebOs problem, can i ask the problem? |
| 06:24.05 | Curtiss | HA!!! |
| 06:24.05 | Curtiss | got it |
| 06:24.07 | Curtiss | :) |
| 06:24.07 | Curtiss | woot |
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| 06:24.31 | ka6sox | HotDP, ask away...I may not know but somebody might! |
| 06:25.53 | HotDP | Oki, the problem is that i have a button, and on the click event, i am disabling the button. That works fine. The problem is that i can't do it in "onSucces" or "onComplete", if i do i get a "TypeError: Cannot call method 'setDisabled' of object" |
| 06:26.41 | HotDP | Like if i am inside the Ajax-Request method i do not "reach" the correct button? |
| 06:26.59 | HotDP | this.$.button.setDiabled(true); |
| 06:27.04 | Curtiss | I'm not really a fan of the theme for VK |
| 06:27.14 | Curtiss | dark rounded is the best.. but still needs work |
| 06:28.06 | razierklinge | has anyone had a problem with preware saying you have no apps or patches installed, when you have a ton of both installed? |
| 06:28.41 | ka6sox | HotDP, dunno on that one... |
| 06:28.56 | sdeboy | hey there...thought I'd post a screen shot of log4j's Chainsaw V2 tailing the output from palm-log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79551761@N00/4637717431/sizes/l/ |
| 06:28.57 | ka6sox | but hang around an somebody will probably have an answer. |
| 06:30.11 | yokken | HotDP: are you saying it's like onComplete(setDisabled); or something? |
| 06:30.38 | HotDP | I just execute the code directly within the onComplete |
| 06:30.50 | sdeboy | Chainsaw is an Apache project, supports colorizing, searching and filtering using a simple expression syntax..web site: http://logging.apache.org/chainsaw |
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| 06:30.52 | yokken | can you send that single line |
| 06:31.01 | swisstomcat | morning |
| 06:31.06 | yokken | 1:31am |
| 06:31.14 | ka6sox | 23:31am |
| 06:31.16 | ka6sox | er pm! |
| 06:31.21 | HotDP | var myAjax = new Ajax.Request( |
| 06:31.21 | HotDP | gurl, { |
| 06:31.21 | HotDP | method: 'get', |
| 06:31.21 | HotDP | requestTimeout: 5, |
| 06:31.22 | HotDP | onSuccess: showResponse, |
| 06:31.22 | HotDP | onTimeout: onTimeout, |
| 06:31.22 | HotDP | onComplete: function() {;this.$.btnTestConnection.setDiabled(false);} |
| 06:31.24 | ka6sox | morning Swiss |
| 06:31.44 | ka6sox | HotDP, webos-interals.pastebin.com |
| 06:32.01 | HotDP | thx |
| 06:32.14 | swisstomcat | 8:32am |
| 06:32.16 | sdeboy | other screenshots here as well, including shots of Chainsaw tailing android output... |
| 06:32.18 | sdeboy | http://www.flickr.com/photos/79551761@N00/ |
| 06:32.25 | Curtiss | hmm |
| 06:32.29 | Curtiss | I don't like vk |
| 06:32.34 | yokken | HotDP: why do you have a semicolon right after the { |
| 06:32.34 | Curtiss | it is very laggy |
| 06:32.36 | Curtiss | etc |
| 06:32.44 | Curtiss | but preware has more to offer than just vk |
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| 06:33.33 | HotDP | yokken ok? |
| 06:33.58 | swisstomcat | function() {;thi <- error |
| 06:34.12 | HotDP | remove that one |
| 06:34.18 | swisstomcat | remove that ; |
| 06:34.44 | HotDP | i Have my copy/paste mistake |
| 06:34.46 | yokken | lol |
| 06:34.50 | yokken | gj nub |
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| 06:36.46 | HotDP | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/wR6cFMBR here it is |
| 06:36.49 | Curtiss | hahaha |
| 06:36.57 | Curtiss | they have an adobe flash countdown app |
| 06:36.58 | Curtiss | lmfao |
| 06:37.34 | HotDP | Its like this is wrong to use as it cant fint the method on the object |
| 06:37.36 | Curtiss | nice find |
| 06:37.39 | Curtiss | a good calc |
| 06:37.44 | Curtiss | with trig functions logs etc |
| 06:37.54 | HotDP | Because i am within the the Request? |
| 06:38.10 | HotDP | Because it works fine when i am not inside |
| 06:40.10 | HotDP | dit i do it right with pastebin? |
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| 06:46.01 | swisstomcat | HotDP: when you make a new function, you have a new variable scope where this is something else |
| 06:47.37 | swisstomcat | this is all pretty confusing at first, i know |
| 06:52.47 | yokken | HGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN |
| 06:52.51 | yokken | heart attack via text |
| 06:53.01 | swisstomcat | heh |
| 06:54.55 | yokken | is there a way to unpack ipks |
| 06:55.22 | Curtiss | well I'm going to get off |
| 06:55.23 | Curtiss | peace out guys |
| 06:55.27 | Curtiss | thanks yokkhen |
| 06:55.28 | Curtiss | a lot |
| 06:55.31 | yokken | later curtiss |
| 06:55.33 | yokken | take it easy |
| 06:55.45 | Curtiss | if you ever want to talk my email is renkiewiczc@hotmail.com |
| 06:55.54 | Curtiss | peace |
| 06:56.27 | swisstomcat | yokken: what os? |
| 06:56.36 | yokken | swisstomcat: osx |
| 06:56.53 | yokken | but proficient with linux so no worries |
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| 06:57.30 | swisstomcat | morning rwhitby |
| 06:57.55 | swisstomcat | don't know about osx |
| 06:58.08 | swisstomcat | on linux you can use the archive viewer |
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| 07:15.28 | yokken | i just used 7zip |
| 07:15.38 | yokken | herro rwhitby |
| 07:15.48 | swisstomcat | it's called hero :) |
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| 07:28.33 | yokken | lol |
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| 07:48.03 | HotDP | +swisstomcat <-- Hello again |
| 07:48.12 | HotDP | sry for being away |
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| 07:48.26 | swisstomcat | hello |
| 07:48.36 | HotDP | I thought it was something about the scope, but how can i "reach" the button? |
| 07:49.12 | swisstomcat | this is how i do it: onSuccess: this.whateverfunction.bind(this) |
| 07:49.26 | swisstomcat | note the bind(this) |
| 07:49.51 | HotDP | Aha så i make a new function where i place my button code. and call the function with bind(this) ? |
| 07:50.01 | swisstomcat | that should work |
| 07:50.31 | HotDP | I dont think i have read that anywhere, i try i right away |
| 07:53.39 | HotDP | That does not work, the code inside my "new" method is the same, is that wrong? |
| 07:54.09 | HotDP | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/jiU0Qeqy |
| 07:54.28 | HotDP | Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'setDisabled' of object |
| 07:55.22 | swisstomcat | maybe the code is posted on the forum is wrong |
| 07:55.26 | swisstomcat | i |
| 07:55.41 | HotDP | Its like "this" is not working because i am in wrong scope |
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| 07:56.43 | swisstomcat | try this.$.btnTestConnection.mojo.deactivate(); |
| 07:56.50 | swisstomcat | otherwise i have to test it myself |
| 07:57.42 | HotDP | i try it now |
| 07:57.50 | HotDP | Thanks for helping me :) |
| 07:57.57 | swisstomcat | np |
| 07:58.42 | HotDP | this.$.btnTestConnection.mojo.deactivate(); |
| 07:58.56 | HotDP | I think i have not done it like you said |
| 07:59.57 | HotDP | I have called the function TEST |
| 07:59.58 | HotDP | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/xiGTB1s0 |
| 08:00.38 | HotDP | I think i am using this wrong or something? |
| 08:01.02 | swisstomcat | what's the error now? |
| 08:02.32 | iwasbiggs | HotDP: 'bind' returns a function, but does not execute it |
| 08:02.47 | iwasbiggs | so on complete is called, and then you call bind on that TEST |
| 08:02.50 | iwasbiggs | which just returns a function |
| 08:03.07 | iwasbiggs | you probably mean this onComplete: function(){ this.TEST() }.bind(this) |
| 08:03.33 | HotDP | aha |
| 08:03.38 | HotDP | <-- trying to understand |
| 08:03.51 | swisstomcat | iwasbiggs: that's not how i use it |
| 08:04.27 | swisstomcat | onSuccess: this.GPSStationListSuccess.bind(this), |
| 08:04.34 | swisstomcat | maybe it's different on onComplete? |
| 08:05.46 | iwasbiggs | you are not calling bind with this.$.btnTestConnection, where as this.TEST.bind() is |
| 08:07.29 | iwasbiggs | i would be surprised that the commented out works, but it might, depends on the 'this' context and how the window.$ works |
| 08:07.33 | HotDP | I still get the same error |
| 08:08.20 | HotDP | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/m04vVxAf |
| 08:08.33 | HotDP | Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'mojo' of object |
| 08:09.08 | iwasbiggs | can you post TEST |
| 08:09.18 | HotDP | sure |
| 08:09.21 | iwasbiggs | chances are you have not called setupWidget or it is not a real widget |
| 08:09.31 | HotDP | I use Ares |
| 08:09.45 | iwasbiggs | i am not that familiar with ares workings |
| 08:09.56 | HotDP | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/crSwcDHF |
| 08:10.23 | iwasbiggs | TEST may have to be a child function of the ares stuff |
| 08:10.36 | iwasbiggs | like SceneName.prototype.TEST |
| 08:10.45 | iwasbiggs | i do not know how the ares stuff works for real though |
| 08:11.20 | iwasbiggs | presumably this gurl stuff is in another function, like some onClick handler? |
| 08:11.39 | HotDP | No it is just the google url? |
| 08:11.53 | iwasbiggs | no i mean what triggers this first pasting to run? a button click? |
| 08:12.02 | HotDP | Yes |
| 08:12.03 | iwasbiggs | or is it just onload of the window? |
| 08:12.08 | HotDP | the button that i would like to change |
| 08:12.26 | iwasbiggs | alright, and at the top of the function ares made for you, what is that? |
| 08:12.43 | iwasbiggs | what does its declaration read? |
| 08:12.44 | HotDP | btnTestConnectionTap: function(inSender, event) { <-- Event |
| 08:12.54 | iwasbiggs | ok, so lemme try |
| 08:13.37 | HotDP | function PreferencesAssistant.prototype.TEST() does not work |
| 08:14.01 | iwasbiggs | yeah ares does somthing weird |
| 08:14.07 | iwasbiggs | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/1bZfskvn |
| 08:14.52 | HotDP | The test method is in my example outside |
| 08:16.15 | iwasbiggs | does it have to be? |
| 08:16.30 | HotDP | No |
| 08:17.40 | HotDP | What should i write in onComplete? |
| 08:18.05 | HotDP | onComplete: function(){ this.TEST(); }, ? |
| 08:18.32 | iwasbiggs | onComplete: function(){ this.TEST() }.bind(this) |
| 08:19.25 | HotDP | Does not work |
| 08:19.35 | HotDP | :( |
| 08:19.51 | iwasbiggs | yeah sorry , i really dont know how ares is setting stuff up then |
| 08:20.01 | HotDP | ffs :( |
| 08:20.08 | HotDP | What else can i try? |
| 08:20.40 | iwasbiggs | they had some good tutorials on an rss reader in ares right? |
| 08:20.42 | HotDP | Its just like it does not fint the right button, because it runs the Methods fine, but the button stuff i do, fail |
| 08:21.03 | HotDP | I have seen alot of tutorials and videoes |
| 08:21.22 | swisstomcat | onComplete: this.test().bind(this) doesn't work? |
| 08:21.37 | iwasbiggs | onComplete: this.TEST.bind(this) would work also |
| 08:21.50 | iwasbiggs | because bind returns a function |
| 08:21.52 | swisstomcat | oops, yes |
| 08:22.22 | HotDP | It calls the mothod fine, it just dont like this.$.btnTestConnection.mojo.deactivate(); or other button methods |
| 08:23.07 | HotDP | If i try/catch the button command it says TypeError: Cannot call method 'deactivate' of object |
| 08:23.18 | HotDP | like its not the right object |
| 08:23.21 | iwasbiggs | I am thinking "this.$" is only for use by the ares bindings |
| 08:24.24 | HotDP | I use it before the ajax.request for getting textbox values fine like: this.$.txtIP.getValue() |
| 08:24.49 | HotDP | Is there another way i can get the button? |
| 08:24.51 | iwasbiggs | yeah so it is for the ares view class only |
| 08:25.13 | iwasbiggs | there are other ways, in traditional dom method getElementById('my_button') |
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| 08:25.47 | iwasbiggs | or whatever id your button was assign |
| 08:25.53 | iwasbiggs | i am not sure if ares lets you do that though |
| 08:26.02 | HotDP | Lol this is fonny, if I: console.log(this.$.btnTestConnection); It gives me btnTestConnection: Palm.Mojo.ActivityButton |
| 08:26.16 | HotDP | So it can find my button |
| 08:26.20 | swisstomcat | very good |
| 08:26.29 | HotDP | But i can not call methods on it from therE? |
| 08:26.46 | swisstomcat | can you do getValue();? |
| 08:26.49 | swisstomcat | on that button? |
| 08:28.18 | HotDP | 1 sec |
| 08:28.55 | HotDP | TypeError: Object btnTestConnection: Palm.Mojo.ActivityButton has no method 'getValue' |
| 08:29.21 | HotDP | Its just like there is something fondumental i am missing |
| 08:31.59 | HotDP | Success! |
| 08:32.05 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 08:32.19 | HotDP | This if kind of funny and would like to get it explained |
| 08:32.34 | HotDP | this.getButton = this.controller.get('btnTestConnection'); |
| 08:32.34 | HotDP | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.37 | HotDP | Works? |
| 08:32.53 | HotDP | we talk about 6 hours wasted here |
| 08:32.54 | HotDP | :) |
| 08:33.23 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 08:33.46 | swisstomcat | but this.controller.get('btnTestConnection).mojo.deactivate(); didn't work? |
| 08:33.53 | HotDP | i sec |
| 08:34.33 | swisstomcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.01 | HotDP | also works |
| 08:35.09 | HotDP | this.$.btnTestConnection.mojo.deactivate(); <-- Does not work |
| 08:35.34 | HotDP | But i was told on forum that Ares does not use controller.get but $ ? |
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| 08:37.01 | swisstomcat | yeah, that was me |
| 08:37.24 | HotDP | But can you explain ftw is hoing on :) |
| 08:37.29 | HotDP | going* |
| 08:37.33 | swisstomcat | not really |
| 08:37.35 | swisstomcat | very strange |
| 08:39.15 | HotDP | :) |
| 08:39.53 | HotDP | I am a .Net programmer normally, so its kind of frustration things are done in different ways, i would like to know then and how :-S |
| 08:40.44 | iwasbiggs | well, this.$ is some special gimmick of the ares framework |
| 08:40.56 | iwasbiggs | it could be returning anything |
| 08:41.03 | HotDP | That is in beta? |
| 08:41.16 | HotDP | i normally only use $ when i use jQuery |
| 08:41.16 | iwasbiggs | well my point is that the interfaces may not be exactly what you think they are |
| 08:41.33 | HotDP | so it is not "bad code" to use this.controller.get ? |
| 08:41.48 | iwasbiggs | this.controller.get is the right way for most apps |
| 08:41.53 | HotDP | I think i have used it before where it did not work and i had to use the $ |
| 08:41.53 | iwasbiggs | many are built without ares |
| 08:42.18 | iwasbiggs | this.$.widgetName could invoke code dynamically |
| 08:42.40 | HotDP | That makes sense |
| 08:42.43 | iwasbiggs | and your result is not guaranteed to be what this.controller.get returns |
| 08:43.02 | HotDP | But how come this.controller.get does not work everytime`? |
| 08:43.14 | iwasbiggs | work every time? |
| 08:43.17 | iwasbiggs | what didn't it work with? |
| 08:43.31 | iwasbiggs | this.controller.get returns the mojo widget in the vanilla sense |
| 08:43.44 | iwasbiggs | ares this.$ could have decorated or rearranged that result |
| 08:44.44 | iwasbiggs | i am also curious what that particular function does too now |
| 08:45.39 | iwasbiggs | or worse, this.controller.get could have been overridden and modified by ares |
| 08:46.59 | HotDP | Yer |
| 08:47.35 | HotDP | I think i tryed to get the value from a textbos with this.controller and could not get it to work so i had to use the $ |
| 08:50.07 | iwasbiggs | i think with ares you get a straight up debugger right? try setting a break point on two lines, one that does this.controller.get and the other on this.$ |
| 08:50.16 | iwasbiggs | and seeing what really goes on |
| 08:52.47 | swisstomcat | yes, there's a debugger |
| 08:53.28 | HotDP | yes |
| 08:53.48 | HotDP | hmm |
| 08:53.55 | HotDP | Still |
| 08:54.12 | HotDP | When i make a function in top of my js, it does not work :S |
| 08:56.14 | HotDP | Why must it be within PreferencesAssistant.prototype = {setup: function() { |
| 08:57.16 | iwasbiggs | preferencesAssistant does not get 'controller' assigned to it until 'setup' is called |
| 08:57.55 | HotDP | So there is no way i can make a funtion outside? |
| 08:58.10 | iwasbiggs | there is, but they wont have access to the controller until after setup is called |
| 08:58.17 | HotDP | aha |
| 08:58.18 | iwasbiggs | and you would have to pass it around |
| 08:59.57 | iwasbiggs | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/mhbCh6D7 |
| 09:00.27 | yokken | wow still working on making a button inactive |
| 09:01.25 | HotDP | thanks |
| 09:03.53 | HotDP | I know got a new problem :) |
| 09:03.57 | HotDP | now* |
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| 09:10.47 | HotDP | I am getting frustrated now, onSuccess: showResponse <-- would would return af originalRequest that i would use. When i, move the content down in my "new" method with the working disable it does not owkr? |
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| 09:12.04 | iwasbiggs | pastie it |
| 09:12.21 | iwasbiggs | i have a feeling you are just getting confused by the 'this' variable |
| 09:12.32 | HotDP | Maybe |
| 09:12.38 | iwasbiggs | its not like c# |
| 09:12.39 | iwasbiggs | heh |
| 09:13.28 | HotDP | I use onSuccess now: http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/6aFKekLp |
| 09:13.34 | swisstomcat | javascript and c# may look similar |
| 09:14.32 | swisstomcat | onSuccess: this.showResponse.bind(this) |
| 09:14.33 | HotDP | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/Rh6UK5cW <-- method i call |
| 09:16.15 | iwasbiggs | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/cPG2RrLv updated |
| 09:17.33 | iwasbiggs | just weren't passing through the request object |
| 09:17.37 | iwasbiggs | no biggie |
| 09:17.47 | HotDP | onSuccess: this.showResponse.bind(this) <-- works, but why? |
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| 09:18.04 | HotDP | Why sometimes the one thing and another time the other? |
| 09:19.43 | swisstomcat | there are different way to do it |
| 09:19.59 | swisstomcat | i always use this.showResponse.bind(this), but that's just me |
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| 09:23.00 | iwasbiggs | onSuccess will call the function assigned to it with the response object, that value is not being passed through |
| 09:23.19 | iwasbiggs | i made a mistake in the correction |
| 09:23.48 | iwasbiggs | http://webos-interals.pastebin.com/Kg8neBF7 |
| 09:23.49 | iwasbiggs | sorry there you go |
| 09:24.05 | HotDP | thx |
| 09:24.13 | iwasbiggs | like swisstomcat says, you can skip the intermediate function |
| 09:24.28 | iwasbiggs | since bind is returning a function |
| 09:24.39 | iwasbiggs | bind will pass through variables too |
| 09:24.51 | iwasbiggs | er arguments |
| 09:25.24 | HotDP | so you use bind often in webos? |
| 09:25.46 | iwasbiggs | well, when doing a prototype style of inheritance you use it a lot |
| 09:25.56 | iwasbiggs | as i've grown more comfortable i've moved away from it entirely |
| 09:26.11 | iwasbiggs | i tend to favor the module pattern |
| 09:26.38 | HotDP | I got the "problem/thing" now |
| 09:26.52 | HotDP | I have to type this.controller.get('btnTestConnection').mojo.deactivate(); AND this.$.btnTestConnection.setDisabled(false); |
| 09:27.14 | HotDP | Why must i use $ one place and not the other? |
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| 09:28.51 | swisstomcat | webos uses javascript |
| 09:29.22 | swisstomcat | and the prototype javascript library |
| 09:29.29 | swisstomcat | bind is from prototype |
| 09:30.41 | HotDP | aha |
| 09:32.18 | HotDP | I started to say it was about the Ajax.request, does anyone know if i could set the timeout time? |
| 09:32.38 | swisstomcat | ajax.request is from prototype too |
| 09:32.54 | swisstomcat | http://api.prototypejs.org/ |
| 09:33.03 | swisstomcat | http://api.prototypejs.org/ajax/ajax/request/ |
| 09:33.20 | HotDP | is there another way to make a request? |
| 09:33.30 | swisstomcat | why? |
| 09:33.44 | HotDP | I can not set the timeout time :s |
| 09:34.09 | iwasbiggs | you can always set a timeout and cancel the request |
| 09:34.26 | iwasbiggs | things like http timeouts may be restricted from configuration |
| 09:34.42 | iwasbiggs | but it might be around, if it was, it would be in requestOptions somewhere in the docs |
| 09:35.07 | swisstomcat | i'm sure there's a builtin timeout, it that one too short? |
| 09:41.35 | HotDP | to long :S |
| 09:41.49 | HotDP | I want it lower, i cant find anything in the docs |
| 09:42.31 | swisstomcat | are you on the emulator? |
| 09:43.13 | HotDP | Yes |
| 09:43.56 | swisstomcat | i think timeouts are long there than on the device |
| 09:44.20 | HotDP | OKi i will give it a try, thanks :) but i can't find anything about lowering it |
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| 11:24.02 | mjkjr | is there any word of a luna manager update that won't take or is it just me? I just doctored on sunday. everytime I try to update 0.0.5 in preware it acts like it does but then luna manager is still 0.0.5 and the update is available again in preware. |
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| 12:08.18 | sbromwich | rwhitby: got my Makefile fixed and everything's compiling now |
| 12:08.29 | rwhitby | sbromwich: sweet |
| 12:09.33 | en0x | hmm |
| 12:09.45 | en0x | google has opened up source code for my tracks... the navigation app |
| 12:10.36 | sbromwich | rwhitby: it would appear it helps not to try to apply the same patch twice. Go figure. |
| 12:10.53 | sbromwich | now I just need to come up with a name for the new kernel that got compiled |
| 12:11.03 | sbromwich | suggestions anyone? |
| 12:11.11 | rwhitby | 1.4.1-30 ? |
| 12:11.29 | en0x | sbromwich, braindead |
| 12:11.33 | en0x | ;D |
| 12:11.42 | sbromwich | yes, 1.4.1-28, but I also need an "exciting" name that people can refer to |
| 12:11.57 | nt4cats | sbromwich: I always thought 'nt4cats' had a nice ring to it ... |
| 12:12.03 | sbromwich | en0x: this is fixing up and removing a bunch of debug stuff |
| 12:12.08 | sbromwich | nt4cats: done |
| 12:12.55 | nt4cats | rwhitby: that URL I sent you the other night should be working now (actually as of 25 minutes after you got the error) |
| 12:15.22 | sbromwich | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:SBromwichKernel has been updated |
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| 12:19.35 | nt4cats | feels somehow compelled to run sbromwich's newest kernel |
| 12:19.53 | sbromwich | *grin* |
| 12:20.05 | sbromwich | I just booted it myself |
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| 12:47.12 | noaXess | hey all |
| 12:47.24 | noaXess | i'm searching a patch for contacts to delete all contacts.. in one step.. |
| 12:51.40 | nt4cats | will bbiab |
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| 13:14.12 | HattCzech_work | morning all |
| 13:14.19 | swisstomcat | morning |
| 13:15.24 | HattCzech_work | so swisstomcat, it looks like if you want to win hot apps, you need to come up with more ideas like "boobs and explosions" |
| 13:15.43 | swisstomcat | too bad someone already stole that idea |
| 13:16.04 | swisstomcat | maybe i should do a boobs & cars app |
| 13:16.09 | HattCzech_work | i'm just surprised that it's doing so well |
| 13:16.14 | HattCzech_work | there ya go |
| 13:17.04 | HattCzech_work | just doesn't understand |
| 13:17.06 | HattCzech_work | heheh |
| 13:17.17 | swisstomcat | stuff like that sells |
| 13:18.37 | HattCzech_work | well, it's free, but just ridiculous |
| 13:19.26 | HattCzech_work | and yeah, i've noticed that those apps sell, also |
| 13:28.14 | HotDP | But it is made so crappy :-S |
| 13:28.39 | noaXess | is there a way to write a patch for contacts, to delete all contacts in one step? |
| 13:30.02 | HattCzech_work | HotDP: i know, that's what's so disappointing |
| 13:30.02 | swisstomcat | i didn't even look at that app |
| 13:30.22 | HattCzech_work | noaXess: remove the account that links them all? |
| 13:30.31 | HotDP | I looked at the pictures because i would see what it was about. And it just looked crappy. |
| 13:31.04 | HattCzech_work | yeah, and it's got like 3x as many downloads as me :/ (about 1/2 way to hot app status) |
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| 13:32.17 | HotDP | hmm i can't see it on http://palmhotapps.com ? |
| 13:32.37 | HotDP | ahh did noy see ½ way |
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| 13:35.28 | HattCzech_work | any recommendations on a domain registrar? godaddy? namecheap? |
| 13:36.15 | HotDP | http://speednames.com/ |
| 13:38.39 | HattCzech_work | that doesn't seem too cheap |
| 13:38.56 | HotDP | No they are not cheap :( |
| 13:39.06 | HotDP | But our company uses them. |
| 13:41.56 | HotDP | So gave recommandations for that, not the pice :) |
| 13:42.06 | HattCzech_work | heheh, that is what i asked for :) |
| 13:47.52 | swisstomcat | hrmm |
| 13:48.08 | swisstomcat | total memory: 7893M, used: 6208M |
| 13:48.53 | HattCzech_work | uh oh |
| 13:50.23 | swisstomcat | need more ram :) |
| 14:03.01 | VincentLaw | HattCzech_work: use godaddy, find some silly-cheap coupon codes on the net |
| 14:03.14 | VincentLaw | don't use them for anything except domain registration |
| 14:03.27 | HattCzech_work | i just want to do privacy |
| 14:03.33 | HattCzech_work | so that's a bit pricier |
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| 17:07.28 | sk1tt1sh | can anyone send me their start_animation from palm pre. I'm apparently missing mine haha |
| 17:07.41 | sk1tt1sh | it's in /etc/init.d/ |
| 17:08.06 | phil_bw | sk1tt1sh, couldn't you snatch one from the emulator? |
| 17:08.14 | sk1tt1sh | haha doin that right now :p |
| 17:08.18 | oilsworkn | or the doc |
| 17:08.33 | sk1tt1sh | started emu but yea didn't think about opening the doc up |
| 17:10.32 | sk1tt1sh | where at in the doc is it? |
| 17:11.25 | oilsworkn | i dont remember exactly what all to extract |
| 17:11.36 | oilsworkn | but once you find the rootfs, its in the same place in there it is on the pre |
| 17:11.52 | sk1tt1sh | kk |
| 17:12.07 | sk1tt1sh | oops |
| 17:13.18 | sk1tt1sh | haha well no start anime in the image odd |
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| 17:15.12 | dtzWill | sk1tt1sh: confirmed it's not in the image |
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| 17:15.47 | dtzWill | sk1tt1sh: and not on my device, although I do have shutdown_animation |
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| 17:45.33 | en0x | wtf |
| 17:45.53 | en0x | looks like mozilla server sucks |
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| 18:06.47 | jivadent | i'm having a problem with my preware... everytime it gets to loading the palm-catalog it just hangs there forever |
| 18:07.20 | oilsworkn | goto feed management and toggle that feed off |
| 18:09.56 | jivadent | ok i'll try that, thanks |
| 18:11.14 | jivadent | is the palm-catalog feed just the official app store? |
| 18:11.22 | oilsworkn | yes |
| 18:12.11 | jivadent | cool, that worked! so i just have to leave the palm-catalog feed turned off for good? |
| 18:13.26 | oilsworkn | after you sucessfully update the other feeds |
| 18:13.31 | oilsworkn | you can try turning it back on and updating again |
| 18:13.44 | oilsworkn | though, preware now defaults to having that feed disabled |
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| 18:37.12 | sk1tt1sh | quick question. Why does it show <defunct> next to most of my processes when i do ps x lol |
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| 18:52.27 | MetaView | hi |
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| 19:23.27 | HattCzech_work | what would be the most basic service i could start with if i wanted to make my own? |
| 19:25.18 | egaudet_work | the example service |
| 19:25.44 | HattCzech_work | is that in the preware git? |
| 19:25.48 | HattCzech_work | or somewhere else? |
| 19:26.03 | HattCzech_work | sorry webos-internals git |
| 19:26.24 | egaudet_work | hmm I thought there was not sure |
| 19:26.28 | egaudet_work | are you talking C service? |
| 19:26.38 | HattCzech_work | yeah, i don't know java, so c service |
| 19:27.17 | HattCzech_work | granted, it's all just syntax changes, but still, i'd rather not do that |
| 19:27.39 | egaudet_work | yea C is the awesome anyway |
| 19:28.10 | egaudet_work | I don't know what the simplest C service is we have in git |
| 19:28.21 | HattCzech_work | egaudet_work: have you written any of the webos-internals services? |
| 19:28.23 | egaudet_work | but the lunaservice headers have a lot of examples there |
| 19:28.56 | egaudet_work | I have helped with some |
| 19:28.58 | egaudet_work | mostly wircd |
| 19:29.03 | HattCzech_work | okay |
| 19:29.09 | egaudet_work | I have a decent understanding of how they work |
| 19:29.21 | HattCzech_work | i want a service so my app can be totally in the backgroun |
| 19:29.27 | HattCzech_work | background* |
| 19:29.51 | HattCzech_work | would you agree that it would be the best method for totally headless |
| 19:29.52 | HattCzech_work | ? |
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| 19:40.19 | egaudet_work | js apps can't be headless? |
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| 19:45.08 | HattCzech_work | well, they kinda can... but they need to have a timer or something |
| 19:45.11 | HattCzech_work | which i don't want to do |
| 19:45.25 | oil | or dashboard |
| 19:45.34 | HattCzech_work | yeah, i have a dashboard |
| 19:45.38 | HattCzech_work | i'm trying to go away from that |
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| 19:45.52 | oil | the only other way is getting started every 5 mins |
| 19:46.32 | HattCzech_work | services don't continue to run? |
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| 19:47.53 | oil | i think |
| 19:49.26 | Ron001 | Can someone help with a post Dr Preware problem? |
| 19:49.37 | HattCzech_work | ...? so services do continue to run? or they get started every 5 min? |
| 19:50.14 | oil | they run in the background |
| 19:52.36 | HattCzech_work | okay |
| 19:52.49 | HattCzech_work | then i'll want to do that |
| 19:52.59 | HattCzech_work | and find a way to keep it secure |
| 19:53.09 | HattCzech_work | which i think will be extremely difficult |
| 19:54.06 | egaudet_work | may I ask what you want to do in the background? |
| 19:54.55 | HattCzech_work | tap into the messaging service |
| 19:57.43 | RamsesFSFE | Where does the Pre save videos I filmed with the camera? |
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| 19:58.55 | Ron001 | Anyone? I"d be happy to check back later. In a nutshell...got a replacement pre. copied over my usb info from my computer and reinstalled Preware with webosQI. Preware thinks my patches are installed. EPR gives a error and says nothing is installed, but does not update the list of installed packages. I'm kinda stuck at this point. |
| 20:00.11 | MetaView | you might run the doctor and try againß |
| 20:00.14 | MetaView | ? |
| 20:01.08 | Ron001 | LOL, that was the short story. Long is I did a full erase, doctored and then did above. I dont know where Preware is getting the list of installed packages |
| 20:02.26 | MetaView | there are folders for each patch in cryptf |
| 20:02.28 | MetaView | +s |
| 20:02.45 | MetaView | but there is another list too, IIRC, but don't know where |
| 20:03.16 | Ron001 | I made sure not to copy over hidden folders |
| 20:04.31 | HattCzech_work | i don't think they're hidden |
| 20:04.41 | HattCzech_work | there might be a emergency patch something tool? |
| 20:05.08 | HattCzech_work | clears out what it doesn't see... but i haven't used it in a while... and it was under different circumstances |
| 20:05.59 | egaudet_work | Ron001: you can try uhh ESI I think it is |
| 20:06.58 | Ron001 | emerg file verification didn't help |
| 20:07.08 | Ron001 | there is the emerg reconstruction utility? |
| 20:07.17 | egaudet_work | Emergency Service Enabler |
| 20:07.38 | egaudet_work | ERU won't help |
| 20:07.41 | egaudet_work | ESE probably will |
| 20:08.03 | egaudet_work | you copied all the package info from your old pre to new pre but none of the stock webOS files are touched |
| 20:08.06 | halfhalo-work | What about llama? |
| 20:08.38 | egaudet_work | ESE will re-run the postinst's to re apply the patches |
| 20:08.38 | Ron001 | I'll try ESE |
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| 20:11.33 | eieio | yo |
| 20:12.28 | bpadalino|work | hi |
| 20:13.16 | Ron001 | Why do I have 70 "this is a webos application" things listed? |
| 20:13.32 | bpadalino|work | boilerplate developers? |
| 20:15.37 | swisstomcat | yeah |
| 20:15.47 | swisstomcat | that's the default app title |
| 20:15.54 | MetaView | it's strange yes |
| 20:16.02 | MetaView | even happens for my apps |
| 20:16.45 | MetaView | Just submitted my "Show unread emails in email icon" patch |
| 20:17.22 | Ron001 | where on the media drive is the saved package list? The first thing Preware did after I installed it was rewrite over my old one and I want to copy it back. |
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| 20:35.04 | swisstomcat | ping oil |
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| 20:59.22 | VincentLaw | MetaView: I'd be superhappy if you made a patch for email notifications to have an option to mark the notification email as read (Not delete!) |
| 21:06.38 | oc80z | whats good |
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| 21:41.58 | swisstomcat | g'night everyone |
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| 21:45.13 | Ron001 | can anyone tell me where preware stores the saved package list? I'd like to restore it. |
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| 22:20.27 | MTJ | Hi, i am having problems with the preware app |
| 22:21.08 | oilsworkn | might be able to help |
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| 22:21.58 | HattCzech_work | nods in oilsworkn's direction |
| 22:22.02 | MTJ | thanks, i have installed the app for the first time. but when i start it up, it says that the service is unavailable |
| 22:22.24 | oilsworkn | which version did you attempt to install? |
| 22:22.35 | oilsworkn | (and how did you do it?) |
| 22:22.37 | MTJ | 1.1.0 |
| 22:22.55 | oilsworkn | have you tried rebootin' the phone? |
| 22:23.01 | MTJ | i i opened the webos quick install |
| 22:23.46 | MTJ | clicked the third button, Selected WebOS - internal (Pre) |
| 22:23.59 | MTJ | i tried rebooting the app then the phone |
| 22:24.03 | oilsworkn | hm |
| 22:25.31 | oilsworkn | and this is the first time installing it? |
| 22:25.43 | MTJ | yep |
| 22:26.16 | oilsworkn | id say try removing it and reinstalling |
| 22:26.23 | oilsworkn | (really, it should just work) |
| 22:26.31 | MTJ | lol |
| 22:26.39 | MTJ | ok ill try that real quick |
| 22:30.03 | MTJ | oh i forgot to tell you... |
| 22:30.26 | MTJ | there was an error when i tried to install it. i just got it again... |
| 22:30.36 | oilsworkn | what error? |
| 22:30.36 | HattCzech_work | ahhh, that changes things |
| 22:31.13 | MTJ | ERROR: An error occured while attempting to run /tmp/ipkgScript.sh |
| 22:31.34 | MTJ | No Packages removed. Nothing to be done... |
| 22:31.48 | oilsworkn | hm |
| 22:32.00 | oilsworkn | that is probably why its not working |
| 22:32.01 | oilsworkn | haha |
| 22:32.06 | MTJ | lol |
| 22:32.07 | oilsworkn | what version of quick install you using? |
| 22:32.14 | oilsworkn | the newest? |
| 22:32.34 | MTJ | 1.0 |
| 22:33.01 | MTJ | no i dont think so... i downloaded the newest the other day, but it didnt work to install themes |
| 22:34.02 | MTJ | but apparently you all have lots of themes so i probably dont need to worry about that anymore. Ill get the newest Quick Install |
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| 22:39.48 | MTJ | i think its working now. (note to self: check for software updates before i take up other peoples time) |
| 22:40.23 | oilsworkn | no problem |
| 22:40.31 | oilsworkn | my employer payed for it |
| 22:40.36 | MTJ | one last question. what are the "must haves" |
| 22:40.56 | oilsworkn | they're definately not themes |
| 22:41.05 | oilsworkn | haha |
| 22:41.16 | MTJ | lol |
| 22:41.24 | oilsworkn | there is some real good patches |
| 22:41.29 | oilsworkn | you'll want to check those out |
| 22:41.36 | oilsworkn | like 4x4 icons in launcher |
| 22:42.00 | MTJ | oouu that sounds cool |
| 22:42.13 | oilsworkn | if i try to point out apps im going to end up pointing out my own apps xD |
| 22:42.29 | HattCzech_work | heheh true |
| 22:42.33 | HattCzech_work | i would too ;) |
| 22:42.38 | oilsworkn | drpodder is a definite winner if you like podcasts |
| 22:42.42 | oilsworkn | and i didn't write that one :) |
| 22:42.54 | oilsworkn | but preware, wirc, govnah are all good :) |
| 22:43.01 | halfhalo-work | meh... |
| 22:43.02 | halfhalo-work | :p |
| 22:43.26 | oilsworkn | let halfhalo tell you about his apps |
| 22:43.40 | oilsworkn | he made the fart apps |
| 22:43.40 | oilsworkn | xD |
| 22:43.43 | halfhalo-work | The ones where I no longer have the source code for? |
| 22:43.48 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 22:43.49 | halfhalo-work | God damn dog |
| 22:44.17 | MTJ | lol |
| 22:44.33 | HattCzech_work | halfhalo-work: why do you need the source when the app is the source? |
| 22:44.38 | HattCzech_work | :) |
| 22:44.49 | halfhalo-work | because I don't have any recent ipk's either |
| 22:44.56 | HattCzech_work | ohhh, fail |
| 22:45.05 | oilsworkn | basically, don't download anything halfhalo wrote |
| 22:45.09 | HattCzech_work | lol |
| 22:45.10 | oilsworkn | cause its been abandoned |
| 22:45.18 | MTJ | damn lol |
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| 22:45.37 | HattCzech_work | feel free to check out my group texting app: txt group ;) |
| 22:45.38 | oilsworkn | an easier way to suggest things, is you to tell us what you want |
| 22:45.46 | halfhalo-work | nah, steamfriends and steamfriends pro are still going to be developed |
| 22:45.47 | MTJ | i see 4 versions of 4x4 and also 5x5 is the a secret to picking one? |
| 22:45.48 | HattCzech_work | knows that was a shameless plug |
| 22:46.04 | halfhalo-work | Just have to start over.... again |
| 22:46.07 | HattCzech_work | check out the pictures and see what you like best |
| 22:46.27 | MTJ | i like stuff that helps me be more productive, and reference |
| 22:46.43 | oilsworkn | they all do something a little different |
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| 22:46.49 | oilsworkn | and *should* have screenshots |
| 22:46.56 | halfhalo-work | lies |
| 22:47.01 | oilsworkn | im using 4x4 v3 i think |
| 22:47.09 | halfhalo-work | I'm not |
| 22:47.11 | HattCzech_work | i'm using v2 |
| 22:47.18 | oilsworkn | old version fail |
| 22:47.19 | oilsworkn | xD |
| 22:47.20 | halfhalo-work | Well, I'm not using anything |
| 22:47.30 | halfhalo-work | not even pants |
| 22:47.34 | oilsworkn | stock icons? |
| 22:47.35 | HattCzech_work | hahaha |
| 22:47.39 | oilsworkn | they look all big and dumb |
| 22:47.47 | halfhalo-work | my sprint pre is completely stock |
| 22:47.47 | oilsworkn | like, my finger is not that fat |
| 22:47.48 | HattCzech_work | VERY big |
| 22:47.58 | HattCzech_work | it pains me to hear that |
| 22:48.10 | HattCzech_work | as it did yesterday when it was mentioned |
| 22:48.12 | halfhalo-work | lol |
| 22:48.43 | halfhalo-work | My plus is all crazy though |
| 22:49.42 | HattCzech_work | :( i want a plus |
| 22:49.49 | HattCzech_work | or two pluses |
| 22:50.00 | oilsworkn | while i wouldn't say no to a plus on sprint |
| 22:50.01 | egaudet | ++ there ya go |
| 22:50.03 | oilsworkn | id rather wait for v2 |
| 22:50.06 | oilsworkn | not 1.5 |
| 22:50.07 | halfhalo-work | I want a plus on sprint... well thats a lie. I want a plus on ATT for sprints prices |
| 22:50.09 | HattCzech_work | hahaha, thanks egaudet |
| 22:50.26 | HattCzech_work | i want a 4G one |
| 22:50.35 | halfhalo-work | I want an 11G one |
| 22:51.01 | HattCzech_work | i could really use a 4G... been considering the EVO... |
| 22:51.13 | oilsworkn | bannishment |
| 22:51.17 | HattCzech_work | hahaha |
| 22:51.24 | MTJ | haha |
| 22:51.31 | halfhalo-work | Meh, I did for a time, then the pricing came out and I was like "oh#%$!that" |
| 22:51.35 | HattCzech_work | don't get me wrong, i'm a big palm fan... have been for a long time |
| 22:51.56 | HattCzech_work | isn't it only $10 more than the current "everything data" plan? |
| 22:52.14 | halfhalo-work | plus another 29 for the hotspot |
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| 22:52.58 | oilsworkn | meh |
| 22:53.03 | HattCzech_work | pssssh, i wouldn't pay for that |
| 22:53.16 | halfhalo-work | 8 minutes till home.... |
| 22:53.51 | MTJ | sprint said they dont offer tethering, is that still possible with the app? |
| 22:54.02 | halfhalo-work | mebe |
| 22:54.03 | MTJ | dont offer that anymore* |
| 22:54.06 | halfhalo-work | sprint says alot of things |
| 22:54.13 | MTJ | lol that they do |
| 22:54.15 | HattCzech_work | you can still tether |
| 22:54.15 | oilsworkn | just dont get caught |
| 22:54.19 | HattCzech_work | they just don't like you to |
| 22:54.32 | oilsworkn | dont play wow for 48 hours over your phone |
| 22:54.38 | halfhalo-work | AGAIN |
| 22:54.45 | halfhalo-work | T-6 |
| 22:54.52 | HattCzech_work | yeah, i've used it for logging in to work through my laptop |
| 22:55.05 | MTJ | i use to tether all the time with my 900 and didnt even know it was wrong until they told me when i called cuz it stopped working |
| 22:55.16 | halfhalo-work | T-5 |
| 22:55.24 | halfhalo-work | I want a drumstick |
| 22:55.27 | oilsworkn | haha |
| 22:55.39 | oilsworkn | "this isn't working" "you weren't supposed to be doing that in the first place!" |
| 22:56.07 | MTJ | so how does your org make money? i haven seen paid apps or ads, so whats up? |
| 22:56.28 | oilsworkn | money? |
| 22:56.30 | oilsworkn | we do this for fun |
| 22:56.31 | MTJ | they told me there was nothing they could do to sstop me tho, haha |
| 22:57.00 | halfhalo-work | THEY do it for fun, I do it for money |
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| 22:57.09 | MTJ | YOU CALL THIS FUN!?!?! just jokin |
| 22:57.38 | halfhalo-work | bbl hometime |
| 23:08.03 | oilsworkn | so egaudet, now that you're back, what you gonna work on? :) |
| 23:13.42 | egaudet | asking myself the same question :P |
| 23:13.52 | Templarian1 | The prophecies are true he has returned. |
| 23:14.16 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 23:14.43 | Templarian1 | mumbles something faintly in a blueish tin about joining the light side (WP7). |
| 23:14.54 | oilsworkn | bannishment! |
| 23:15.04 | oilsworkn | haha |
| 23:15.48 | Templarian1 | My whole new website is in pure JS (with a PHP fall back). |
| 23:16.04 | oilsworkn | fancy? |
| 23:16.14 | oilsworkn | waits for link |
| 23:16.22 | oilsworkn | hopes its better then preware site |
| 23:16.36 | Templarian1 | Far better code, I did the preware site in 1 day lol. |
| 23:16.46 | oilsworkn | yeah, it shows :) |
| 23:17.44 | Templarian1 | http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7414/mobilew.png This is the mockup and http://templarian.com/ is the coming soon page. |
| 23:18.05 | oilsworkn | no under construction man digging hole animated gif? |
| 23:18.10 | oilsworkn | and you call yourself a webdesigner?! |
| 23:18.15 | oilsworkn | xD |
| 23:18.48 | oilsworkn | whats it look like on a full screen and not mobile? |
| 23:18.49 | Templarian1 | hehe. Yea I know, embarrassment to the profession. |
| 23:19.25 | Templarian1 | Pretty nice actually I'm recoding how I handle widgets so it can be adapted to a mobile editor at the moment or I would take a screenshot. |
| 23:19.34 | oilsworkn | ah |
| 23:19.44 | Templarian1 | Kine of like how http://touch.facebook.com/ does it |
| 23:19.57 | Templarian1 | But mine looks better. |
| 23:21.28 | oilsworkn | you get a lot of visitors to your personal site? |
| 23:21.47 | Templarian1 | I use to years ago when I blogged, but not any more. |
| 23:21.53 | Templarian1 | Site has been down for a long time. |
| 23:22.59 | Templarian1 | I'm coding the website so it can be pulled into a WYSIWYG editor on mobile. |
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| 23:37.22 | oc80z | hmmph |
| 23:37.52 | oc80z | Unable to run command: /usr/bin/luna-send -n 6 ... |
| 23:37.56 | oc80z | patches only |
| 23:39.03 | rwhitby | morning |
| 23:39.25 | oc80z | whats good |
| 23:39.28 | HattCzech_work | morning |
| 23:41.48 | oc80z | HattCzech_work following precentral.net? |
| 23:42.15 | HattCzech_work | somewhat... why? |
| 23:42.37 | HattCzech_work | i read it fairly often |
| 23:42.40 | oc80z | oh, specifically the HP Slate |
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| 23:44.01 | HattCzech_work | what does a tablet need to be webos ready? |
| 23:44.17 | zsoc | HattCzech_work: webos compatible hardware? |
| 23:44.48 | HattCzech_work | i'm lost :) |
| 23:45.02 | HattCzech_work | i was wondering what oc80z was referring to |
| 23:45.17 | HattCzech_work | but at this point, i will have to look into it later |
| 23:45.25 | HattCzech_work | as i am leaving work |
| 23:45.30 | HattCzech_work | talk to y'all later |
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