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| 00:34.39 | DrFunk | sup |
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| 00:46.44 | Iowa-Steve | Hey! |
| 00:46.55 | Iowa-Steve | Anyone able to help me with my WebOS installation? |
| 00:47.32 | Iowa-Steve | I'm on a MAC and when I try and run the java app, it says to restart the app but then won't run. |
| 00:48.28 | Scaredy | which java app? |
| 00:48.43 | Iowa-Steve | prewareinstaller |
| 00:49.08 | Iowa-Steve | Oops, I didn't mean help installing WebOS. lol, I meant preware. |
| 00:49.35 | Iowa-Steve | So, I have the installer and the webosdoctor file in the same directory. |
| 00:50.00 | Iowa-Steve | and when I double click on the prewareinstaller app, it loads, says to restart the app but then won't open anymore |
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| 00:50.33 | Scaredy | have you tried installing it via WebOS Quick Install? |
| 00:50.33 | rwhitby | Iowa-Steve: can you run novaterm ? |
| 00:50.48 | Iowa-Steve | what's novaterm? |
| 00:51.08 | Iowa-Steve | uhm, what's webOSquickinstall? |
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| 00:53.36 | rwhitby | Iowa-Steve: http://install.preware.org/ |
| 00:54.03 | DrFunk | anyone no if it's possible to run music from the phone to a car ?? |
| 00:54.19 | oc80z | DrFunk sure. |
| 00:54.29 | Iowa-Steve | Playya, that'll run on mac, correct? |
| 00:54.37 | oc80z | DrFunk tape player or bluetooth. |
| 00:54.40 | rwhitby | DrFunk: do it all the time with DrPodder and bluetooth |
| 00:54.45 | Scaredy | yes, that will run on mac |
| 00:54.59 | Scaredy | I'm on a mac myself.. works fine |
| 00:55.19 | oc80z | DrFunk: bluetooth gets the music and broadcasts it over FM |
| 00:55.29 | DrFunk | rwhitby: so I need to have a bluetooth radio than right |
| 00:55.35 | oc80z | (if the headunit is not BT native) |
| 00:56.18 | DrFunk | so no bt radio no go |
| 00:56.31 | rwhitby | I use a BT to FM converter. Motorola T505 |
| 00:56.49 | rwhitby | doubles as a speakerphone for the car too |
| 00:57.08 | DrFunk | rwhitby: so I don't need a bt radio than |
| 00:57.12 | rwhitby | nope |
| 00:57.44 | DrFunk | so I should just google bt to fm converter ? |
| 00:58.51 | oc80z | DrFunk: http://tinyurl.com/yl7nfzm |
| 00:59.06 | joshua | a lot of stereos have auxilary jacks, can just use the headphone output |
| 00:59.43 | joshua | depends on your stereo |
| 01:00.04 | oc80z | thinks about wiring harnesses and goes idle |
| 01:00.08 | rwhitby | I use a Motorola S605 too, for BT headset. |
| 01:00.49 | joshua | my head unit has the aux in the back of it, never ran a wire cause I would have to take it out again to install it |
| 01:01.21 | DrFunk | rwhitby: for what I want to do I should get the t505 right |
| 01:03.55 | DrFunk | ? |
| 01:04.05 | rwhitby | DrFunk: that's what i use. whether it will work for you, I dunno. |
| 01:04.13 | DrFunk | lol |
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| 01:09.28 | DrFunk | well off to the bar have fun all and thanks |
| 01:10.39 | mjkjr|wirc | rwhitby, I just saw save/restore, very happy to see that NFSU is one of the supported apps =) |
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| 01:23.02 | rwhitby | Preware 0.9.31 and Package Manager Service 0.9.44 released |
| 01:28.42 | mjkjr|wirc | I got excited and checked my verions but I already have those. |
| 01:31.31 | rwhitby | mjkjr|wirc: thx for alpha testing :) |
| 01:32.39 | Scaredy | anyone happen to know why installing the System Files for the Messaging Plug-ins in the emulator would cause the Phone app to stop working? |
| 01:32.58 | Scaredy | everything else still works, and removing that and rebooting fixes it |
| 01:33.59 | mjkjr|wirc | lol, I will be alpha testing save/restore too next time I doctor |
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| 01:37.11 | rwhitby | OK, now we have an icon and the packaging is automated, we can start adding functionality to SaveRestore :-) |
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| 01:56.52 | SiLlY_ | has anyone figured out a way to stop the palm from sleeping? |
| 01:57.43 | SiLlY_ | not for apps/background... |
| 01:57.59 | SiLlY_ | but keeping ssh alive and etc.. |
| 01:58.05 | keith | i plug mine into a charger. |
| 01:58.12 | SiLlY_ | yeah.. |
| 01:58.14 | SiLlY_ | same here. |
| 01:58.15 | SiLlY_ | TS |
| 01:58.21 | SiLlY_ | pita |
| 01:58.53 | SiLlY_ | i know nodoze is ok but merely a bandaid |
| 01:59.18 | keith | well, i put mine on a TS too |
| 02:00.13 | SiLlY_ | yep yep.. that's the only time I can rely on it stayin "awake" |
| 02:01.51 | SiLlY_ | what's wierd is that irssi's connection to the world stays live but ssh kicks me off. |
| 02:02.48 | SiLlY_ | i figured nix is safe from sleep because irssi stays up and running but ssh doesnt? |
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| 02:02.57 | SiLlY_ | weird. |
| 02:04.39 | SiLlY_ | hrmm... |
| 02:04.45 | SiLlY_ | just thought of something.. |
| 02:04.58 | SiLlY_ | perhaps it is wifi that is sent to sleep.. |
| 02:05.18 | SiLlY_ | evdo stays awake? |
| 02:05.21 | SiLlY_ | hrmm.. |
| 02:05.30 | SiLlY_ | might run some tests |
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| 02:12.17 | SiLlY_ | top |
| 02:12.21 | SiLlY_ | doh.. |
| 02:16.26 | SiLlY_ | hrmm.. the "quiet powerd msgs" patch only hides the msgs. It's still trying to report the msg. |
| 02:16.38 | SiLlY_ | bummer |
| 02:18.41 | halfhalo_T400 | hmmmm |
| 02:18.48 | halfhalo_T400 | innnnteresting |
| 02:19.01 | SiLlY_ | so far.. nodoze is the best fix. :/ |
| 02:19.16 | halfhalo_T400 | APPARENTLY my old laptop is on |
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| 02:32.57 | Guest86667 | How would I go about porting iphone apps with the PDK |
| 02:33.30 | bpadalino | if you use a lot of OpenGL, it should be somewhat easy .. |
| 02:33.50 | bpadalino | .. if you use a lot of built in Objective-C .. you've got some serious porting ahead |
| 02:35.03 | Guest86667 | Is it possible to convert the Obj-C to something with less work needed |
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| 04:38.42 | SiLlY_ | Alice in wonderland is pretty good. |
| 04:39.08 | bpadalino | i saw it today and thought it was mediocre .. even boring in some parts :( |
| 04:39.25 | bpadalino | also diary of a wimpy kid was somewhat mediocre as well .. |
| 04:40.51 | SiLlY_ | Havent seen that one yet |
| 04:40.59 | SiLlY_ | was more comedy though? |
| 04:41.18 | SiLlY_ | i mean.. moreso than alice... |
| 04:41.57 | SiLlY_ | the fuddlewacking freaked me out. |
| 04:41.59 | SiLlY_ | lol |
| 04:43.24 | bpadalino | yeah that was pretty weird |
| 04:43.32 | bpadalino | diary wasn't a lot of comedy |
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| 04:43.44 | bpadalino | it was more just cruel .. that main kid is a pretty huge jackass for most of the movie |
| 04:45.52 | SiLlY_ | lol.. |
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| 04:46.25 | SiLlY_ | the advert didn't really grab me. |
| 04:46.31 | SiLlY_ | I might check it out for the hell of it. |
| 04:46.47 | bpadalino | eh - you should wait for a dvd or something |
| 04:47.03 | SiLlY_ | yeah.. most deff! |
| 04:47.31 | SiLlY_ | i filled my theatre time quota for the month |
| 04:47.33 | SiLlY_ | heh |
| 04:47.52 | SiLlY_ | got kids.. |
| 04:47.59 | bpadalino | understandable |
| 04:48.00 | SiLlY_ | only reason why i bother |
| 04:48.12 | bpadalino | i end up seeing a lot of movies .. mostly documentaries |
| 04:48.49 | SiLlY_ | those can be good depending on the person |
| 04:50.10 | SiLlY_ | if a movie advert is really good.. I might make a special trip.. |
| 04:50.14 | SiLlY_ | but most times i get burnt |
| 04:50.30 | bpadalino | i hear ya |
| 04:50.45 | SiLlY_ | any recomendations? |
| 04:50.52 | SiLlY_ | I like documentaries |
| 04:51.06 | bpadalino | i recently saw What's The Matter With Kansas? which was interesting |
| 04:51.20 | SiLlY_ | hrmm |
| 04:51.26 | SiLlY_ | never heard of that. |
| 04:51.29 | SiLlY_ | let me check imdb |
| 04:52.01 | bpadalino | Lake of Fire is an amazingly powerful documentary about the abortion issue |
| 04:53.29 | bpadalino | i recently saw the oscar nominated animated shorts .. i recommend seeing that whole thing - all of them were good this year along with a few of the honorable mentions |
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| 04:55.01 | bpadalino | The Art of the Steal looks good which is coming out |
| 04:55.17 | SiLlY_ | wow... |
| 04:55.37 | SiLlY_ | didn't know kansas was even on the scale when it came to issues |
| 04:55.49 | SiLlY_ | all you ever hear of them is the incest thing |
| 04:55.50 | SiLlY_ | like wv |
| 04:55.52 | SiLlY_ | lol |
| 04:57.07 | SiLlY_ | Art of steal does look good |
| 04:57.15 | SiLlY_ | the ^ |
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| 06:46.47 | noaXess | good morning. |
| 06:50.25 | noaXess | just for information, swisstomcat and me will present webos-internals on openExpo here in switzerland: http://www.openexpo.ch/index.php?id=339 see at the bottom.. |
| 06:50.57 | noaXess | the OpenExpo is on this wednesday and thursday... |
| 06:51.48 | noaXess | is here now anybody of the core webos-internals team? have one or more questions.. |
| 06:52.21 | keith | look for rwhitby |
| 06:52.26 | keith | hes sleeping now probably |
| 07:01.57 | rwhitby | morning |
| 07:02.07 | noaXess | rwhitby: aha.. good mornin ; |
| 07:02.09 | noaXess | :) |
| 07:02.37 | rwhitby | noaXess: what would you like to know? |
| 07:03.27 | noaXess | rwhitby: so.. it will be nice, if we have a email-adress for swissteam... but i just chatted with swisstomcat and he said that you are not really happy.. |
| 07:04.57 | rwhitby | noaXess: what will the email address be used for? |
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| 07:05.27 | rwhitby | (we currently have a single support@webos-internals.org address, and no others, not even for individuals) |
| 07:05.35 | swisstomcat | morning |
| 07:06.24 | noaXess | good morning |
| 07:06.41 | noaXess | rwhitby: okay.. so, we can use support@... okay |
| 07:07.04 | rwhitby | for contact, we usually direct people to this IRC channel. |
| 07:07.18 | rwhitby | then we know they're serious :) |
| 07:07.35 | Kyusaku | rwhitby: did you get those adapters I sent you yet? I think I sent them like a week and a half ago, got tied up about sending them. |
| 07:07.43 | noaXess | we will make a little flyer with the webos-internals logo, information about webos-internals, the irc channel and the email-adress support@ |
| 07:07.44 | rwhitby | Kyusaku: yes! thanks! |
| 07:07.54 | Kyusaku | cool |
| 07:08.05 | noaXess | rwhitby: is that ok, with the flyer? |
| 07:08.13 | rwhitby | noaXess: ka6sox-work will have the flyer we used for SCALE - perhaps a translation of that? |
| 07:08.48 | swisstomcat | oh, you had a flyer |
| 07:08.49 | noaXess | rwhitby: aha.. so an existing flyer.. |
| 07:08.58 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: I think we did. |
| 07:09.00 | noaXess | ka6sox-work: hello.. and good morning. |
| 07:09.13 | rwhitby | we had a physical banner too |
| 07:09.18 | swisstomcat | he's probably sleeping |
| 07:09.30 | swisstomcat | i've adapted the physical banner to a vertical one |
| 07:09.40 | swisstomcat | format A1 |
| 07:09.42 | noaXess | swisstomcat: that was the pdf one right? |
| 07:09.44 | swisstomcat | but same text |
| 07:09.47 | swisstomcat | yes |
| 07:09.57 | rwhitby | http://www.webos-internals.org/images/4/41/WebOS_Internals_Banner_Screenshot.png |
| 07:10.05 | noaXess | so if we have ka6sox-work's flyer, we got all... |
| 07:10.24 | swisstomcat | rwhitby: yup, that one |
| 07:11.20 | swisstomcat | bbl .. breakfast |
| 07:11.36 | noaXess | swisstomcat: enjoy :) |
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| 07:15.34 | thumbtack | ever since i updated to the new webOS, terminal freezes and then reboots my pre, is there a fix for this? i tried reinstalling it.. |
| 07:21.04 | rwhitby | thumbtack: terminal is not compatible with webOS 1.4 |
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| 07:22.00 | noaXess | rwhitby: do you know when ka6sox-work will be online? |
| 07:22.07 | thumbtack | rwhitby: shewt. any updates planned? |
| 07:22.51 | thumbtack | or is it possible to revert to an old web0S? |
| 07:27.47 | thumbtack | or maybe a terminal "alternative" ? |
| 07:28.01 | thumbtack | that allows me to ssh |
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| 07:28.42 | rwhitby | noaXess: ka6sox-work is in CA, US. |
| 07:29.02 | rwhitby | thumbtack: there is terminus and xterm, both in alpha testing |
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| 07:29.53 | swisstomcat | rehi |
| 07:30.11 | swisstomcat | hey, there's oil |
| 07:30.12 | thumbtack | i just got used to pre's terminal too...<sighs> |
| 07:30.42 | oil_pre | yeah, it is |
| 07:32.36 | swisstomcat | any feedback on the save/restore ui "concept"? |
| 07:37.37 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: no real feedback, so I'll assume its good :-) |
| 07:38.01 | swisstomcat | i'll work on it today |
| 07:38.12 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: we could also add a "Stale Application Data" section at the top (like Preware's Package Updates) which lists those apps that have changed data since the last save. |
| 07:38.37 | rwhitby | or maybe "Updated Application Data" is a better description |
| 07:38.47 | swisstomcat | yeah, stale doesn't sound nice |
| 07:39.09 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: did you see the new icon? |
| 07:39.13 | swisstomcat | let me work out interfacing |
| 07:39.15 | swisstomcat | no? |
| 07:40.16 | swisstomcat | someone already made an icon? |
| 07:42.23 | swisstomcat | oh, i see it |
| 07:43.04 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: so just leave the Updated Application Data greyed out for the moment and we'll work out how to do that later |
| 07:44.13 | swisstomcat | hey, someone already put it in |
| 07:44.30 | rwhitby | the icon? yeah, I did that. |
| 07:47.24 | oil_ | there is a "concept"? |
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| 07:48.23 | swisstomcat | yeah |
| 07:48.43 | rwhitby | oil: http://bit.ly/saverestore |
| 07:48.43 | swisstomcat | a non-functional ui-mockup |
| 07:49.26 | oil | oh, that |
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| 07:52.45 | oil | thats just a list, lol |
| 07:54.39 | rwhitby | no, it's a non-functional UI mock-up ;) |
| 07:56.00 | swisstomcat | is working on it |
| 07:59.27 | oil | hopes it has random taglines and "Functional UI" is one of them xD |
| 07:59.45 | rwhitby | oil: it will |
| 08:00.10 | rwhitby | "Likely to restore correctly" will be another one |
| 08:03.41 | swisstomcat | yeah, i'm working on the taglines and color concept ;) |
| 08:04.14 | swisstomcat | it will have 400 random taglines out of movies |
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| 08:04.26 | rwhitby | thinks the current colours are perfect :) |
| 08:11.38 | thumbtack | perhaps there is an app that just "does" ssh? |
| 08:17.04 | rwhitby | thumbtack: there is not |
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| 12:17.46 | chuk | how do I find the developer mode so I download this patch? |
| 12:20.05 | rwhitby | http://install.preware.org/ |
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| 12:22.49 | swisstomcat | how do use "a raffle" in a sentence? |
| 12:22.56 | swisstomcat | raffle off something? |
| 12:23.05 | swisstomcat | have a raffle off something |
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| 15:12.32 | sventen | anyone working on pixi webos 1.4.0 for sprint? |
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| 15:26.27 | nt4cats | My wife wants a Pixi (sprint) -- but our data coverage is poor at our house. This isn't a problem for me -- I just swtich on WiFi at home. I can't buy her a webOS phone and then tell her she can't use it for anything other than making calls |
| 15:26.58 | mikewx | nt4cats: i think the sprint portable cell site alows 1x data |
| 15:27.20 | nt4cats | mikewx: 1x stinks. I'm hoping that Sprint will come out with their 3G portable cell site someday |
| 15:27.58 | mikewx | would be nice |
| 15:28.04 | nt4cats | ... or maybe there will be a new Palm handset on Sprint sometime in the June-ish timeframe and I'll get one of those and give her my Pre |
| 15:28.14 | mikewx | feed it from an verizon MiFi and have great sprint service anywhere :-) |
| 15:28.37 | mikewx | ducks |
| 15:32.24 | zsoc_wirc | not a bad idea |
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| 15:37.50 | zsoc_wirc | nt4cats: buy/install an actual network extender |
| 15:38.18 | zsoc_wirc | nt4cats: it's about 250-300 dollars and 1-2 hours of installation |
| 15:39.57 | nt4cats | an "actual network extender"? |
| 15:40.25 | zsoc_wirc | nt4cats: yeah, a bidirectional amplifier |
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| 15:41.03 | zsoc_wirc | mount a small antenna/amplifier to your roof/house, and plug a small repeater indoors (its two pieces) |
| 15:41.08 | nt4cats | zsoc_wirc: <sarcasm>I'm not into any of thay bidrectional stuff. I'm a happily married man.</sarcasm> |
| 15:41.17 | zsoc_wirc | it increases signal about 1/4 mile |
| 15:41.28 | zsoc_wirc | ... nice |
| 15:41.55 | nt4cats | zsoc_wirc: who sells it / what is it called / what do I type into the Google ? |
| 15:42.53 | jbrett | perks up his ears, is also interested in such a beastie for his home.. |
| 15:43.58 | zsoc_wirc | nt4cats: tirect direct sells one for $209. unsure of the brand tho. they have them listed under Communications -> Cellular Accessories ~> Signal Boosters |
| 15:44.16 | nt4cats | zsoc_wirc: thanks |
| 15:44.47 | zsoc_wirc | obviously different models repeat various signals/frequencies |
| 15:45.38 | zsoc_wirc | "zBoost" is a funny name lol |
| 15:45.39 | nt4cats | (in case anyone cares -- I have many irreverant bones in my body, but I don't have a single bigoted one) |
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| 15:46.39 | jbrett | googles for "home cellular signal booster", and gets lots of apparently relevant results. |
| 15:46.46 | zsoc_wirc | hm, amazon sells the same PCS one for $198 |
| 15:49.48 | nt4cats | zsoc_wirc: I'm not in any hurry to get something until June (which is not that far away) ... and hopefully by then Sprint will have a 3G picocell for $100 or so |
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| 15:51.42 | halfhalo | thinkgeek has some |
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| 15:54.29 | halfhalo | were in the DANGAZONE! |
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| 15:56.18 | nt4cats | ... and a WiMax webOS phone with a form factor similar to the Droid |
| 15:57.24 | halfhalo | wants |
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| 16:06.16 | SiLlY_ | bah.. |
| 16:06.40 | halfhalo | no |
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| 16:19.25 | jdforsythe | hey everybody |
| 16:19.51 | jdforsythe | anyone tried installing sdk tools on the device itself so you could develop on the go? |
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| 16:20.25 | jdforsythe | I think this would be possible, not virtualbox obviously, but just palm-generate and palm-package |
| 16:20.29 | halfhalo_T400 | well, THAT was interesting |
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| 16:20.38 | halfhalo_T400 | Luna did not crash, it just froze... |
| 16:21.12 | jdforsythe | i've had so many problems with luna and too many cards errors it's ridiculous |
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| 16:23.48 | halfhalo_T400 | never had a to many cards error since 1.4 I am glad to say |
| 16:24.17 | zsoc_wirc | luna needs to have source released under a very careful license that protects IP while allowing open patching |
| 16:27.40 | jdforsythe | anyone have a guess or thoughts on the palm tools? think I could just copy them over? |
| 16:27.56 | halfhalo_T400 | what are we copying again? |
| 16:30.53 | jdforsythe | palm-package and palm-generate command line tools from linux sdk to the device to be run in terminal on the device |
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| 16:31.08 | halfhalo_T400 | why..... |
| 16:31.20 | halfhalo_T400 | and no, they wont work |
| 16:33.17 | jdforsythe | I want to be able to work on apps on the go from my pre |
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| 16:47.18 | zsoc_wirc | jdforsythe: I package apps on my phone using a debian chroot and webos-internals build.git |
| 16:53.36 | jdforsythe | cool! thanks for the info! |
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| 16:56.53 | oilsworkn | swisstomcat: did you find the help you were lookin for? |
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| 17:40.21 | oilsworkn | i hate when i come here when i'm at work to kill time, only to find the channel completely dead xD |
| 17:40.28 | halfhalo_T400 | Heh |
| 17:40.47 | halfhalo_T400 | I'm in class studying for a midterm I have in two hours |
| 17:41.05 | oilsworkn | sux |
| 17:41.11 | drnull | it's not dead yet |
| 17:41.17 | halfhalo_T400 | kills it |
| 17:41.19 | halfhalo_T400 | NOW IT IS |
| 17:42.28 | oilsworkn | so are you swimming in cash yet drnull? |
| 17:42.42 | halfhalo_T400 | was looking into mtp drivers yesterday and sadly didn't find crap |
| 17:43.35 | drnull | oilsworkn: funny guy. :) I've been pleased with the response, but even more so with the ratings. People so nice to me. ;) |
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| 17:43.45 | halfhalo_T400 | what app? |
| 17:43.52 | oilsworkn | drpodder |
| 17:43.58 | halfhalo_T400 | ah |
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| 17:45.10 | oilsworkn | knows where to go now when he needs to borrow money |
| 17:45.18 | oilsworkn | :) |
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| 17:47.22 | jacques | it's only mostly dead |
| 17:47.33 | oilsworkn | that new ebay app |
| 17:47.41 | oilsworkn | needs more search filtering options |
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| 17:48.07 | oilsworkn | hey, a wircer |
| 17:48.07 | halfhalo_T400 | Hmmm |
| 17:48.14 | halfhalo_T400 | I think I left my wallet at home |
| 17:48.16 | DrFunk | sup oilsworkn |
| 17:48.24 | halfhalo_T400 | how am I supposed to pay for lunch |
| 17:48.33 | DrFunk | steal it |
| 17:48.38 | halfhalo_T400 | and more importantly, how am I supposed to pay for the hookers! |
| 17:48.38 | oilsworkn | beg |
| 17:49.00 | DrFunk | bang them than tell them ur a cop |
| 17:49.05 | halfhalo_T400 | lol |
| 17:49.14 | oilsworkn | "IOU"? |
| 17:49.33 | halfhalo_T400 | lol |
| 17:49.47 | halfhalo_T400 | Oh, wait, found it |
| 17:49.54 | DrFunk | hey oilsworkn do you no of something I can use to upload photos |
| 17:50.01 | halfhalo_T400 | twitpic |
| 17:50.28 | halfhalo_T400 | stupid postfix algoritm should die |
| 17:50.30 | DrFunk | I tried tinypic but guess that will not work on the pre |
| 17:50.54 | oilsworkn | has never tried to upload photos from his pore |
| 17:51.02 | oilsworkn | s/pore/pre/ |
| 17:51.05 | DrFunk | halfhalo_T400: so use twitpic |
| 17:51.10 | oilsworkn | ~botsmack |
| 17:51.11 | infobot | OWW! |
| 17:51.25 | halfhalo_T400 | I DO use it! |
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| 17:54.48 | DrFunk | halfhalo_T400: so that will work ? |
| 17:55.17 | halfhalo_T400 | it does for me! |
| 17:56.16 | DrFunk | that's for twitter |
| 17:56.29 | DrFunk | looking for something like tinypic |
| 17:56.30 | halfhalo_T400 | theres an option to not publish it to your timeline |
| 17:57.25 | DrFunk | so ur not sure of anything like tinypic than ? |
| 17:57.42 | halfhalo_T400 | nein |
| 17:57.45 | DrFunk | sup Rick_work |
| 17:57.59 | DrFunk | darn |
| 17:58.24 | oilsworkn | isnt there flickr upload or something? |
| 17:59.10 | DrFunk | I'm not sure that's why I was asking was looking for something like tinypic |
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| 18:01.09 | oilsworkn | there is photobucket |
| 18:01.29 | oilsworkn | view photo in photo app, click bottom left button, click upload, add photobucket account |
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| 18:03.27 | DrFunk | so oilsworkn that's my best bet |
| 18:03.35 | oilsworkn | idk |
| 18:04.25 | DrFunk | darn |
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| 18:41.32 | swisstomcat | oil: not yet |
| 18:45.14 | oilsworkn | well what did you want to know |
| 18:46.18 | swisstomcat | interfacing with a service |
| 18:46.27 | swisstomcat | e.g the saverestore service |
| 18:46.40 | oilsworkn | and IPKGService.js was no help? |
| 18:46.45 | swisstomcat | i found some code in the preware code, seems pretty easy |
| 18:46.52 | oilsworkn | ok |
| 18:47.04 | swisstomcat | services just return json? |
| 18:47.10 | oilsworkn | yes |
| 18:47.25 | oilsworkn | well, they return json, but your callback function will get the object |
| 18:47.29 | oilsworkn | not the string |
| 18:47.32 | swisstomcat | yeah, saw that |
| 18:47.44 | swisstomcat | ok, next step would be to install the service on the emulator |
| 18:47.50 | swisstomcat | i can't compile it myself |
| 18:48.06 | oilsworkn | yeah, going to have to get rwhitby to do that |
| 18:48.17 | oilsworkn | i dont know if he got that working in the autobuilder yet |
| 18:49.29 | oilsworkn | or maybe egaudet or PuffTheMagic would be real nice and compile you a binary of it for the emulator |
| 18:49.51 | oilsworkn | :) |
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| 18:53.54 | oilsworkn | goes to lunch |
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| 18:54.01 | halfhalo_T400 | hate you |
| 19:04.37 | swisstomcat | thank you for the new toys, chuq .. appreciated! |
| 19:04.51 | swisstomcat | ops, wrong forum |
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| 19:27.30 | oil | you hate me? |
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| 20:05.58 | noradtux | hello |
| 20:06.03 | swisstomcat | hey |
| 20:06.35 | noradtux | rwhitby: was the patch I sent you ok? |
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| 20:16.20 | rwhitby | noradtux: hi |
| 20:16.47 | noradtux | rwhitby: hi |
| 20:17.16 | rwhitby | noradtux: patch looks good, I'll just add your key now and you can commit it |
| 20:17.46 | noradtux | ok. i'll need a hint how to do that;) |
| 20:18.03 | noradtux | using git was just branching and pulling stuff up to now |
| 20:18.32 | rwhitby | noradtux: git clone git@git.webos-internals.org:preware/cross-compile.git |
| 20:18.39 | jacques | heh I was going to say it was too early for rwhitby - glad I didn't |
| 20:19.50 | noradtux | rwhitby: works |
| 20:19.57 | swisstomcat | morning rwhitby |
| 20:20.14 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: the saverestore package in build.git/testing/saverestore will build and install on device or emulator |
| 20:20.33 | swisstomcat | i tried but i have not setup x-compiling |
| 20:20.42 | rwhitby | noradtux: now make sure your git config is set up for name and email |
| 20:20.52 | rwhitby | noradtux: then git add, git commit, git push |
| 20:21.02 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: what host platform? |
| 20:21.21 | noradtux | okay, will do |
| 20:21.30 | swisstomcat | ubuntu 9.10 x64 |
| 20:21.44 | swisstomcat | i have a virtual machine for x-compiling tho |
| 20:21.51 | swisstomcat | scratchbox2 and all |
| 20:21.58 | swisstomcat | have not used it tho |
| 20:22.10 | swisstomcat | and i wanted to test the app in the emulator anyway |
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| 20:24.58 | noradtux | rwhitby: ok, chanegs pushed |
| 20:25.03 | noradtux | changes .. |
| 20:26.13 | swisstomcat | rwhitby: can the saverestore service be installed on the emulator? |
| 20:26.20 | rwhitby | noradtux: ok, now you ask someone else here to test it :-) |
| 20:26.33 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: yes, there is an i686 ipkg in the testing feed |
| 20:26.44 | swisstomcat | how do i get that? |
| 20:26.52 | swisstomcat | still learning :) |
| 20:27.05 | rwhitby | ~testing-feed |
| 20:27.05 | infobot | from memory, testing-feed is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds |
| 20:27.06 | noradtux | rwhitby: eeeek |
| 20:27.52 | swisstomcat | aye |
| 20:28.23 | noradtux | okay, so if anyone is interested, I just pushed a simple espeak-package to nonworkling |
| 20:28.34 | swisstomcat | what does it do? |
| 20:28.53 | noradtux | current aim was to have speech in navit, and that it does |
| 20:29.28 | swisstomcat | navit? |
| 20:29.45 | noradtux | www.navit-project.org, a open-source navigation tool |
| 20:30.04 | noradtux | I mean offline street navigation |
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| 20:31.49 | noradtux | navit is also in nonworking |
| 20:32.04 | swisstomcat | oh, i've heard of that |
| 20:32.10 | swisstomcat | it has been ported to webos? |
| 20:32.20 | noradtux | more or less ;) |
| 20:32.46 | noradtux | it's still crashing often, but in between it works |
| 20:33.47 | loot- | random side bar |
| 20:34.12 | loot- | im developing a hardened web browser platform in virtualbox would anyone be interested in being a lab rat? |
| 20:34.40 | loot- | basically its a full hardened linux OS with every hardening feature, patch, tweak, permission, acl, etc enabled |
| 20:34.44 | loot- | minimal in size |
| 20:34.50 | swisstomcat | rwhitby: i'm using http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all ... am i blind? |
| 20:34.59 | loot- | hardened chroot sandboxed with RBAC ACLs |
| 20:35.07 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/i686/ |
| 20:35.30 | rwhitby | (since it's a C service, it's arch specific) |
| 20:35.33 | loot- | i expect it would pretty much crush nearly any local compromises due to browser bugs |
| 20:35.34 | swisstomcat | feels like an apprentice |
| 20:35.58 | swisstomcat | aye, got it .. was working on the gui today ... next is interfacing with the service |
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| 20:44.26 | bsm | hi, I'm having a problem with the mail app and all IMAP accounts, after sending a messages, that message is not put into the "Sent Messages" folder I've configured in the settings.. any ideas? |
| 20:49.32 | swisstomcat | can't use palm-install on that service i assume, rwhitby? |
| 20:49.37 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: yes, you can |
| 20:49.43 | swisstomcat | oh, ok |
| 20:49.46 | rwhitby | remember, it has the new script magic :) |
| 20:49.57 | swisstomcat | thumbs up |
| 20:50.12 | swisstomcat | shall i push/commit the changes i made so far? |
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| 20:53.31 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: yes please |
| 20:54.02 | swisstomcat | oh no, that git add spiel again :) |
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| 20:58.57 | noradtux | just took a look at the testing feed .. do xorg & xterm work? |
| 20:59.18 | rwhitby | noradtux: ask dtzWill |
| 20:59.27 | swisstomcat | do i need a commit message every time? |
| 21:01.11 | oilsworkn | usually you log what you've changed or the reason for the commit |
| 21:01.24 | oilsworkn | (thats what i do anyways) |
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| 21:01.52 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: that's the way you communicate to the other developers |
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| 21:02.03 | swisstomcat | ok |
| 21:02.33 | swisstomcat | pushing my commit now |
| 21:11.49 | oilsworkn | keeps refreshing gitweb expecting to see swisstomcats code :) |
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| 21:16.22 | noradtux | i'm off, bye |
| 21:19.07 | swisstomcat | it should be up |
| 21:19.10 | swisstomcat | i hipe |
| 21:19.12 | swisstomcat | hope |
| 21:19.43 | oilsworkn | doesn't see it |
| 21:20.37 | swisstomcat | how can i check? |
| 21:21.39 | oilsworkn | http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/saverestore.git;a=summary |
| 21:21.40 | oilsworkn | ? |
| 21:21.48 | swisstomcat | locally i mean |
| 21:22.06 | oilsworkn | oh know just enough about git to barely use it |
| 21:22.12 | swisstomcat | same here |
| 21:22.23 | swisstomcat | i did git add, git commit and then git push |
| 21:25.41 | oilsworkn | oh there it is |
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| 21:27.16 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: don't git add ~ files :) |
| 21:28.52 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: I've removed them - git pull |
| 21:32.24 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: 0.1.5 is now in the testing feed |
| 21:36.01 | swisstomcat | g'night everyone |
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| 21:39.54 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 21:41.11 | halfhalo_T400 | you would wouldn't you.... |
| 21:41.14 | halfhalo_T400 | :p |
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| 22:13.01 | bsm | hm, a dumb question. I got the sources for ledmanager from git and I'd like to build it now. the root contains a build.xml, is this a apache-ant build.xml? do I need to build that from the WIDK or something? |
| 22:13.34 | rwhitby | bsm: preware/build.git has the build environment |
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| 22:17.09 | bsm | yeah, another build environment :) thanks rwhitby, is there maybe a central place where new developers could find this information? |
| 22:17.52 | rwhitby | bsm: here, and on the wiki page you're about to write? ;-) |
| 22:18.16 | bsm | rwhitby: webos-internals ? :) |
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| 22:53.04 | oilsworkn | Oh, nslu2-log took off |
| 22:53.36 | zsoc | since when can't you append to sources.list using >> in ubuntu? It's turning into windows I swear... |
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| 22:55.44 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 22:57.37 | zsoc | 10.04 is even starting to _look_ like aero |
| 22:57.58 | zsoc | I mean, it's nice to have compositing built into Gnome/X and all, but seriously guys... |
| 23:00.58 | oilsworkn | prefers not to discuss operating systems |
| 23:01.41 | zsoc | thinks oil uses windows :p |
| 23:02.06 | oilsworkn | does |
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| 23:05.46 | halfhalo_T400_ | is using windows and is proud of it! |
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| 23:10.54 | rwhitby | so, do we have a wiki page on where the Messaging app keeps it's messages? |
| 23:11.14 | DrFunk | rwhitby: do you have a sec |
| 23:11.28 | bpadalino | rwhitby: i thought they're all in the main palm db .. |
| 23:11.33 | bpadalino | and someone had a query to see all the texts |
| 23:11.53 | zsoc | There's a lot of app-specific db crap in /var/palm too |
| 23:12.13 | rwhitby | bpadalino: where is the main palm db ? |
| 23:13.01 | DrFunk | rwhitby: will pandora work with the t505 or just music I put on the phone ?? |
| 23:13.11 | rwhitby | DrFunk: no idea |
| 23:13.33 | bpadalino | rwhitby: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/187145-how-back-up-text-messages-when-exchanging-phones.html |
| 23:13.40 | rwhitby | bpadalino: thx |
| 23:13.59 | DrFunk | rwhitby: ok so you just use music on the phoje that you put ? |
| 23:14.04 | DrFunk | phone * |
| 23:15.21 | rwhitby | DrFunk: I use DrPodder mainly, but the sound should come from anything |
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| 23:16.01 | DrFunk | ok thanks |
| 23:16.54 | oilsworkn | rwhitby: is the autobuilder doing emu binarys for save&restore? |
| 23:17.36 | rwhitby | oilsworkn: yep |
| 23:17.57 | oilsworkn | thinks we need to get wircd setup in there |
| 23:18.41 | rwhitby | oilsworkn: yep |
| 23:18.42 | DrFunk | oilsworkn: anyway of making wirc tranfer files ? |
| 23:19.13 | oilsworkn | DrFunk: im sure there is, as soon as someone codes it |
| 23:19.20 | zsoc | DrFunk: DCC would be hot, but you'd probably be asking PuffTheMagic about that |
| 23:19.48 | oilsworkn | or egaudet :) |
| 23:19.51 | DrFunk | zsoc: I've tried never get a answer |
| 23:20.04 | oilsworkn | teh answer is "there is no reason it cant" |
| 23:20.11 | oilsworkn | other then there is no code to do it |
| 23:20.33 | DrFunk | haha thanks oilsworkn |
| 23:20.42 | oilsworkn | i believe it was on the todo list at some point |
| 23:20.51 | oilsworkn | but there is other service problems that need to be addressed first |
| 23:21.06 | jacques | it seems like wirc development has stalled |
| 23:21.08 | DrFunk | understandable |
| 23:21.14 | oilsworkn | and weather or not we want to switch to a plugin from a service |
| 23:21.37 | oilsworkn | jacques: hey, i checked something in like two weeks ago |
| 23:21.38 | oilsworkn | :) |
| 23:21.49 | jacques | oilsworkn: oh, sorry then :-) |
| 23:22.14 | AnOutsider | oil: are you doign the save/restore UI? |
| 23:22.22 | oilsworkn | no |
| 23:22.25 | rwhitby | AnOutsider: swisstomcat |
| 23:22.26 | oilsworkn | swisstomcat is |
| 23:22.30 | rwhitby | (and anyone else who wants to help) |
| 23:22.49 | DrFunk | wish I could |
| 23:22.53 | oilsworkn | though it seems to be borrowing the good styles and code from other projects :) |
| 23:23.20 | AnOutsider | I was on the toilet this morning and thought the app listing of the installed apps in the catalog would be good |
| 23:23.22 | oilsworkn | the multi-line header + icon + random second line + small version seems to be the default for webos apps now :) |
| 23:23.23 | zsoc | thinks 'oils style' is ares... |
| 23:23.25 | zsoc | ducks |
| 23:23.28 | rwhitby | repo is in applications/saverestore.git - anyone who wants to add some lists with toggles based on the output of the list service method is quite welcome to do so while swisstomcat sleeps ;) |
| 23:23.37 | AnOutsider | with little icons (like the update icon) for "backup" and "restore" |
| 23:23.46 | AnOutsider | tapping an app would bring you to maybe a history of previous abckups |
| 23:24.01 | oilsworkn | sounds like AnOutsider wants to work on it |
| 23:24.11 | AnOutsider | haha |
| 23:24.16 | AnOutsider | I'm contributing idears |
| 23:24.20 | AnOutsider | yes. idears. |
| 23:24.36 | zsoc | rwhitby: what is the current state of homebrew software across doctors? is saverestore tackling that at all? |
| 23:24.41 | oilsworkn | zsoc: i tried out ares |
| 23:24.49 | oilsworkn | it felt like it was taking all the power away from me |
| 23:25.01 | oilsworkn | in an attempt to make it easier |
| 23:25.02 | zsoc | oilsworkn: no, that's windows |
| 23:25.04 | zsoc | ducks again |
| 23:25.24 | rwhitby | zsoc: I'm expecting an org.webosinternals.preware saverestore script to save the list of all packages installed, and then reinstall them after a doctor. |
| 23:25.44 | rwhitby | the architecture is intentionally very generic |
| 23:25.52 | oilsworkn | zsoc: oh no, oil uses the most common operating system ever created, that must be a bad thing |
| 23:26.27 | zsoc | oilsworkn: i'm clearly just joking with you bro, you left yourself open with the power vs simplicity comment :> |
| 23:26.37 | zsoc | rwhitby: fancy |
| 23:26.41 | oilsworkn | i was talking about ares |
| 23:26.47 | oilsworkn | not an operating system |
| 23:27.07 | rwhitby | zsoc: no, fancy is the antithesis of what saverestore is. we prefer 'functional' over 'fancy' ;-) |
| 23:27.07 | zsoc | ares is a tool, OS's are tools... |
| 23:27.17 | zsoc | rwhitby: but it's not functional yet :> |
| 23:27.36 | rwhitby | zsoc: the service is working fine for the 4 apps that are currently supported |
| 23:27.52 | rwhitby | (the 4 that I need in case my Palm profile decides to reset again) |
| 23:28.07 | Tibfib | rwhitby: what are those 4 apps? drpodder nfs glyder2 aannnd what? |
| 23:28.20 | Tibfib | newsroom? |
| 23:28.25 | zsoc | rwhitby: so the gui just needs er.. things to trigger the service? Also... is there a spec somewhere? Or is this all by ear? |
| 23:29.18 | rwhitby | Tibfib: netstat |
| 23:29.42 | rwhitby | zsoc: all by ear :) |
| 23:29.49 | oilsworkn | the spec comes later |
| 23:29.51 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 23:29.57 | zsoc | rwhitby: ok.. and it saves to... synced somewhere locally? or uploads somewhere? |
| 23:30.08 | zsoc | oh, somewhere in /media/internal probably |
| 23:30.18 | rwhitby | zsoc: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Save_and_Restore |
| 23:30.29 | zsoc | ZMOG A WIKI |
| 23:30.31 | zsoc | reads |
| 23:31.08 | AnOutsider | zsoc: I can bang out some html/css if needed. I need somethnig to break the monotony anywho |
| 23:31.36 | zsoc | AnOutsider: I was actually considering asking you for some graphiks |
| 23:31.50 | AnOutsider | will pitch in |
| 23:32.08 | AnOutsider | once we get some basic functionality I can get a better idea for a UI |
| 23:32.27 | rwhitby | AnOutsider: what we need for initial testing is a list of entries, each with a toggle switch. then a "Select/Deselect All" and "Go" buttons at the bottom |
| 23:32.39 | zsoc | AnOutsider: er, i meant for Precorder 2.0 :D |
| 23:32.42 | rwhitby | then it calls the service method for each enabled app |
| 23:32.55 | bsm | yeah, ultima 7 aka exult is running on the palm pre :) |
| 23:32.58 | zsoc | rwhitby: wait, there is currently _NO_ gui? |
| 23:33.07 | AnOutsider | haha precorder again? why with the official video recording enabled? |
| 23:33.09 | rwhitby | zsoc: it's in the testing feed |
| 23:33.18 | zsoc | rwhitby: o |
| 23:33.23 | oilsworkn | suggests looking at how toggle list is handled in prewares feed management scene |
| 23:33.24 | rwhitby | zsoc: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:SaveRestore |
| 23:33.28 | zsoc | AnOutsider: I said nothing about video recording |
| 23:33.30 | oilsworkn | those things can be bitchey |
| 23:33.53 | AnOutsider | sounds like oil wants to do it |
| 23:34.13 | oilsworkn | im just throwing out helpful hints |
| 23:34.25 | oilsworkn | but "rwhitby: wait, there is currently _NO_ gui?" does sound familiar |
| 23:34.27 | zsoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.32 | oilsworkn | like when i came to help with preware |
| 23:34.36 | oilsworkn | only to find there was only a service xD |
| 23:34.46 | zsoc | haha |
| 23:34.52 | oilsworkn | im being kicked out |
| 23:34.52 | AnOutsider | heh |
| 23:35.20 | zsoc | rwhitby: to be fair, that wiki page claims that is only a mock-up ;) |
| 23:35.32 | rwhitby | zsoc: it is only a mock-up |
| 23:35.41 | zsoc | ... |
| 23:35.46 | AnOutsider | lol |
| 23:35.54 | AnOutsider | ok so do you guys need a basic skeleton too? |
| 23:36.00 | AnOutsider | I've got an hour free now if so |
| 23:36.09 | zsoc | wait, there is currently _NO_ gui? |
| 23:36.11 | zsoc | grins |
| 23:36.12 | rwhitby | applications/saverestore.git |
| 23:36.50 | rwhitby | what I need right now is for someone to take the configs scene from Preware, and put it under save and restore and lists bits in saverestore |
| 23:36.52 | zsoc | rwhitby: so packaging services and applications together is now the new thing? |
| 23:37.10 | rwhitby | zsoc: saverestore is going to be the guinea pig for preware |
| 23:37.16 | zsoc | ah |
| 23:37.23 | zsoc | What you just said doesn't interest me at all |
| 23:37.51 | zsoc | what _does_ interest me is getting more scripts loaded into the service for things like text messages, etc |
| 23:38.01 | zsoc | actually, just text message log |
| 23:38.05 | AnOutsider | heh |
| 23:38.11 | zsoc | i'm sure many people want email |
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| 23:39.22 | AnOutsider | browses the repo |
| 23:39.22 | zsoc | rwhitby: i like your sql magiks btw, assuming you wrote the current scripts |
| 23:41.02 | rwhitby | zsoc: I'm looking at text messages now |
| 23:41.33 | rwhitby | why would you saverestore email? it's from the cloud anyway. just use imap |
| 23:41.39 | zsoc | true |
| 23:42.05 | zsoc | Actually, the whole service is really straight and to the point. Even _I_ understand what's going on after 5 minutes of poking through the tree |
| 23:42.17 | AnOutsider | nods |
| 23:42.32 | zsoc | I guess that's a testimony of rod's architectural abilities. |
| 23:42.59 | rwhitby | pity his mojo abilities don't match it |
| 23:43.32 | zsoc | Is that really a pity? I mean seriously... js.. ew. |
| 23:43.41 | AnOutsider | ok so zsoc |
| 23:43.48 | AnOutsider | are you going in to do the code on this? |
| 23:43.59 | zsoc | AnOutsider: for what? It's already done |
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| 23:44.16 | zsoc | AnOutsider: unless you mean the stage, and then no, definitely not |
| 23:44.25 | zsoc | AnOutsider: it'll take me 5 times longer than someone who actually knows js |
| 23:44.32 | AnOutsider | yes, that's what I meant, the forward-facing ish |
| 23:44.43 | AnOutsider | blah, well let me figure this git thing out |
| 23:44.50 | AnOutsider | I'm all set up for svn |
| 23:45.00 | zsoc | AnOutsider: I will be your virtual git advisor |
| 23:45.04 | zsoc | AnOutsider: what OS? |
| 23:45.08 | AnOutsider | W7 |
| 23:45.12 | AnOutsider | I have... one sec |
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| 23:45.37 | AnOutsider | hmm I did have soem git software installed, dont know where it went though |
| 23:45.44 | AnOutsider | I couldn't get the hang of committing etc |
| 23:46.09 | zsoc | lemme know when you find it |
| 23:46.58 | AnOutsider | I think I removed it, all I see is Tortoise |
| 23:47.01 | AnOutsider | any you recommend? |
| 23:47.45 | zsoc | cygwin + http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/downloads/list is the only thing i've ever used on windows |
| 23:47.49 | zsoc | but rod might recommend something else |
| 23:49.09 | zsoc | OH, apparently you can use msysgit without cygwin anymore |
| 23:49.36 | AnOutsider | ok, let's go with the SIMPLEST option |
| 23:49.40 | zsoc | so in theory, just that one url |
| 23:49.42 | AnOutsider | I don't need something else to fight with |
| 23:50.01 | zsoc | AnOutsider: http://msysgit.googlecode.com/files/Git-1.7.0.2-preview20100309.exe ? |
| 23:50.45 | AnOutsider | downloading |
| 23:51.42 | zsoc | AnOutsider: silly question... you have an SSH key, and rod has it? |
| 23:52.08 | PuffTheMagic | holy shit |
| 23:52.10 | rwhitby | google gitcast windows |
| 23:52.21 | AnOutsider | I think we did that once before |
| 23:52.22 | PuffTheMagic | the json lib for lisp is awesome |
| 23:52.30 | AnOutsider | haha im halfway through installing this |
| 23:52.52 | rwhitby | and I do have a key for AnOutsider |
| 23:53.06 | zsoc | rwhitby: msysgit is the 'official' git suggested utility, is there a reason you prefer gitcast? |
| 23:53.18 | rwhitby | the com.palm.superlog.Superlog database schema is quite complex .... |
| 23:53.29 | rwhitby | zsoc: same thing. one is a video which shows how to set up the other |
| 23:53.36 | zsoc | rwhitby: oh, got it |
| 23:54.59 | rwhitby | dtzWill: ping |
| 23:55.01 | AnOutsider | @rwhitby: good, I'll just need to find mine |
| 23:55.34 | AnOutsider | ok so anywho, im in the git gui |
| 23:55.40 | AnOutsider | open existing or create new? |
| 23:56.30 | zsoc | AnOutsider: I'd imagine open existing... |
| 23:56.47 | zsoc | (a git gui?.. that sounds.. blasphemous) |
| 23:57.02 | AnOutsider | its what you linked me to silly rabbit |
| 23:57.43 | zsoc | AnOutsider: I haven't used it in a millions years :p besides, it offers a git bash option (or at least used to) for CLI |
| 23:57.57 | AnOutsider | haha |
| 23:58.01 | AnOutsider | if cli will be easier, let's do tht |
| 23:58.12 | AnOutsider | just tell me what to type to get this bish checked out, and checked in |
| 23:58.18 | zsoc | AnOutsider: git clone git@git.webos-internals.org:/applications/saverestore.git |
| 23:58.18 | AnOutsider | that way I can focus on the actual work |
| 23:58.31 | AnOutsider | k, and do that from the folder right |
| 23:58.40 | zsoc | AnOutsider: yeah, make some folder, right click on it, "git bash" |
| 23:58.45 | zsoc | assuming nothing has changed since I've last used it |
| 23:58.51 | zsoc | and my memory still works |
| 23:59.32 | AnOutsider | heh, I think I installed only the GUI version |
| 23:59.36 | AnOutsider | lemme see if I can reinstall |
| 23:59.45 | zsoc | AnOutsider: just use the gui version |
| 23:59.46 | zsoc | AnOutsider: i |
| 23:59.50 | zsoc | i'm sure it's straight forward |
