| 00:00.06 | dBsooner | rwhitby-treo: I found an idea to get user imputable patches |
| 00:00.23 | rwhitby-treo | ~spell imputable |
| 00:00.37 | rwhitby-treo | ~dict imputable |
| 00:00.47 | dBsooner | imputable is a new word |
| 00:00.49 | dBsooner | :) |
| 00:01.13 | rwhitby-treo | um, Charles Dickens is not that new ... ;-) |
| 00:01.26 | zsoc | rwhitby, i've regular-ed here for what, 2 months? I did not know of the ~dict functionality D: |
| 00:01.31 | dBsooner | it's used wrong in that definition |
| 00:02.28 | rwhitby-treo | dBsooner: what's the idea? |
| 00:02.39 | dBsooner | what's the postinst? |
| 00:02.52 | dBsooner | rwhitby-treo: going Trick or treating, I'll tell you when I get back. |
| 00:02.57 | dBsooner | what's the postinst? |
| 00:03.16 | egaudet | ... |
| 00:04.01 | rwhitby-treo | where's that thread on PreCentral that was listing 1.1.3 compatible patches ... |
| 00:04.13 | dBsooner | What is the postinst for the ipkg service? |
| 00:04.24 | dBsooner | because i did ipkg -o /var install <package> |
| 00:04.28 | dBsooner | and I need to run the postinst |
| 00:04.34 | zsoc | rwhitby-treo, what's the purpose of feed versioning? for compatibility? |
| 00:04.41 | egaudet | lit's the same as everything else |
| 00:04.52 | zsoc | dBsooner, it's where all the other postinsts are hidden |
| 00:04.56 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: different feeds for 1.1.3 patches vs 1.2.1 patches vs 1.3.1 patches ... |
| 00:04.57 | zsoc | er, sorry 'stored' ;) |
| 00:05.07 | egaudet | /var/usr/lib/ipkg/info/<package>.postinst |
| 00:05.08 | dBsooner | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.12 | dBsooner | ok |
| 00:05.22 | dBsooner | sorry, my family is bitching at me to get out the door |
| 00:05.27 | egaudet | lol |
| 00:05.28 | dBsooner | and I JUST walked in the door |
| 00:05.29 | zsoc | rwhitby, ah, and it checks against... er... not uname... how exactly do you pull webos version? Is there an API? |
| 00:06.42 | egaudet | /etc/palm-build-info |
| 00:07.25 | dBsooner | rwhitby-treo: src/gz webos-patches http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/1.2.1 |
| 00:07.30 | zsoc | egaudet, genius, thank you mate |
| 00:07.31 | dBsooner | going to trick or treat now |
| 00:07.33 | dBsooner | be back later |
| 00:08.14 | zsoc | ~dict Holloween |
| 00:08.17 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: VERSION=`grep PRODUCT_VERSION_STRING /etc/palm-build-info | sed -e 's/.*=Palm webOS \([0-9.]*\).*/\1/'` |
| 00:08.41 | zsoc | rwhitby, ha, I was wondering how you pulled that out. tricky sed. i like it. |
| 00:08.41 | egaudet | ~spell Holloween |
| 00:08.55 | zsoc | ~dict Halloween |
| 00:10.12 | rwhitby-treo | if anyone comes in here looking to alpha test ipkgservice please give them http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all/org.webosinternals.ipkgservice_0.9.15_all.ipk but make sure they don't use fileCoaster to try and install it ;-) |
| 00:10.17 | zsoc | Ok, maybe that sed isn't too tricky, but I feel like a sed noob :( It's almost like a whole programming language of it's own |
| 00:10.37 | zsoc | install ipkgservice 0.9.15 |
| 00:10.44 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: the worst thing about busybox sed is the lack of + |
| 00:12.11 | zsoc | rwhitby-treo, one day i will understand the significance of that, and be sad on the inside. |
| 00:12.31 | zsoc | It must be hard for the busybox maintainer(s). He(they) have to constantly take into account size vs. functionality |
| 00:12.52 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: yeah, they do a great job. |
| 00:13.14 | zsoc | I agree :) World would not be the same without busybox, and I don't think I'm even qualified to make that statement. |
| 00:13.17 | lingfish | Mornin |
| 00:13.22 | rwhitby-treo | hi lingfish |
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| 00:13.37 | Puffy_wIRC_ | sup ladies |
| 00:13.37 | zsoc | licks Puffy_wIRC_ |
| 00:13.37 | rwhitby-treo | bbiab (gardening) |
| 00:13.44 | lingfish | My god.. a rarity.. a sleepin |
| 00:13.59 | Puffy_wIRC_ | feels violated |
| 00:14.09 | zsoc | slaps Puffy_wIRC_ around with a large trout |
| 00:14.23 | zsoc | How's that for old school irc? you should throw that as an easter egg somewhere in wIRC |
| 00:14.46 | Puffy_wIRC_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.52 | zsoc | haha |
| 00:15.24 | Puffy_wIRC_ | oil egaudet hows shit |
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| 00:17.18 | zsoc | I've successfully documented, navigated, and patched, every incompatibility necessary to backport every current major library and plugin set for Gstreamer 0.10.21.... it's really sad that no one will ever, ever, ever find use out of it except for me. At least no one outside of the palm community. |
| 00:18.17 | Puffy_wIRC_ | ol |
| 00:20.03 | SirWill | Oh, what a tease. Update All.... This does nothing yet! ;) |
| 00:22.37 | zsoc | SirWill, it doesn't? |
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| 00:23.20 | SirWill | In preware in package updates, there is a button that says Update All, Hadn't noticed it before. you tap it, and it says this does nothing yet... |
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| 00:28.45 | Puffy_wIRC | lalalalalalala |
| 00:29.15 | Puffy_wIRC | wine + beer ~ lalalalalala |
| 00:30.22 | zsoc | Puffy_wIRC, just wine = LaLaLa |
| 00:32.29 | Puffy_wIRC | did anyone fix the nick issue? |
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| 00:36.30 | zsoc | Puffy_wIRC, what exactly is the nick issue? |
| 00:37.20 | egaudet | Puffy_wIRC, "fix" no |
| 00:39.38 | zsoc | rwhitby-treo, I think i've asked you this before, is there a specific reason why webos-internal's postinst scripts don't mount remount,rw /? Is redundancy a bad thing here? |
| 00:39.54 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: the install does it |
| 00:40.08 | rwhitby-treo | installer that is |
| 00:40.08 | Puffy_wIRC | ipkgservice does it |
| 00:40.16 | Puffy_wIRC | but |
| 00:40.28 | Puffy_wIRC | the packags should sorta |
| 00:40.34 | zsoc | I guess the idea is that no one is running the postinst manually unless they are debugging? |
| 00:40.58 | Puffy_wIRC | since we can't always assume ipkgservice is gonna be used |
| 00:41.55 | Puffy_wIRC | oil channel modes don't always show up for some reason |
| 00:42.40 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: anyone running the postinst manually should know what they are doing. That's not aunt minnie territory. |
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| 00:44.30 | rwhitby-treo | continues the gardening ... |
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| 00:46.52 | zsoc | thinks reading rwhitby's /action's is like reading a Terry Pratchett book, dry humor and all |
| 00:51.35 | zsoc | wonders where to check the webos-patches feed definition |
| 00:52.02 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: feeds management page - it is even documented now |
| 00:52.52 | zsoc | How long has that been there and I hadn't seen it? |
| 00:52.59 | rwhitby-treo | eons |
| 00:53.03 | zsoc | Ha. |
| 00:53.15 | zsoc | ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/1.2.1 |
| 00:53.46 | zsoc | looks good here :) |
| 00:54.11 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: can you edit that back to /all on the end instead of /1.2.1, and then do a reboot and check that it updates it to 1.2.1 again please? |
| 00:54.21 | zsoc | indeed, uno momento |
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| 00:55.08 | kesne | g'day |
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| 00:57.17 | rwhitby-treo | ipkgservice 0.9.15 released - selects correct patches feed for your running webOS version. |
| 00:58.02 | zsoc | rwhitby, seems good :) |
| 00:58.18 | pjjohn73 | Hello |
| 00:58.40 | zsoc | rwhitby, so in the future, are you going to have a holding place for new updates that have no "approved" patches yet? So it doesn't error out... |
| 00:58.58 | pjjohn73 | rwhity I joined this IRC at your request to trouble shoot an application limit problem |
| 00:59.32 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: hi |
| 00:59.56 | pjjohn73 | Hi |
| 01:00.19 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: do you have a command line on the Pre from which you can cut and paste the output? |
| 01:00.34 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: what is your level of experience with the Linux command line? |
| 01:00.50 | pjjohn73 | I was trying to install that a few minutes a go and restarted but I see no app icon to run |
| 01:01.20 | pjjohn73 | my experience it a bit old.... so basic |
| 01:01.21 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: install "what" ? please be specific so we don't have any misunderstandings ... |
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| 01:02.20 | pjjohn73 | ok i installed the terminal service plugin |
| 01:02.23 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: and to confirm your situation, you have an app catalog application that installs when the package manager service (ipkgservice) is not installed, but does not install when ipkgservice is installed. is that correct? |
| 01:02.40 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: Terminal is not a good choice - you can't cut and paste the output. |
| 01:03.04 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: either ssh access, or novaterm access, or WebOS Quick Install Linux command line window is needed |
| 01:03.26 | pjjohn73 | I can use webos quick install |
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| 01:03.36 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: (BTW, you needed the Terminal app, not the plugin - the app depends on the plugin and will install it automatically in Preware) |
| 01:03.48 | pjjohn73 | my situation is that when using the palm app store ... I get the memory full error |
| 01:03.50 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, let me know when you've got that set up and are at the command line on the Pre |
| 01:04.23 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: do you know how to use webos.pastebin.com ? |
| 01:04.38 | pjjohn73 | webos quickinstall is ready |
| 01:05.13 | pjjohn73 | no i dont no what pastebin is |
| 01:05.38 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: go to that URL - you paste stuff into the text box, hit submit, and then tell us the URL it gives you |
| 01:05.55 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 01:06.10 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: please pastebin the output from "ipkg -o /var list_installed" |
| 01:06.15 | pjjohn73 | what do you want me to paste in the text box |
| 01:06.20 | egaudet | what's the best way to remove an element from an array in JS? |
| 01:06.21 | pjjohn73 | ok |
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| 01:07.02 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: (be patient if I don't respond immediately, it's sunday here so I'm doing other things too) |
| 01:07.12 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: (but I do want to get this solved) |
| 01:08.18 | pjjohn73 | ok.. I ran the -o /var list_installed in webos quickinstall but not sure how to use pastebin, so bear with me. I don;'t see a submit button |
| 01:09.07 | zsoc | pjjohn73, it's the send button |
| 01:10.06 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ipkg -o /var list_installed |
| 01:10.08 | pjjohn73 | ok i pasted it into pastebin |
| 01:10.14 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: you missed the "ipkg" at the start |
| 01:10.39 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 01:10.43 | zsoc | Is the fact that I constantly have to access the same deep folder, and that I refuse to set an local environmental variable to it, make me stubborn, or lazy? |
| 01:11.23 | pjjohn73 | ok done... |
| 01:11.56 | egaudet | zsoc, neither |
| 01:12.00 | egaudet | makes you foolish |
| 01:12.04 | egaudet | :P |
| 01:12.08 | zsoc | egaudet, ah, thank you. |
| 01:12.18 | zsoc | likes his tab button too much |
| 01:12.31 | egaudet | you want to be lazy (i.e. not typing out the same deep folder over and over again) |
| 01:12.35 | egaudet | :) |
| 01:12.56 | egaudet | yea tab completion is awesome |
| 01:13.13 | egaudet | except once you get to systems that don't have it and you hit tab about 100 times before giving up lol |
| 01:13.20 | zsoc | I have a zsh friend who SWEARS by zsh tab completion, I just don't get the advantages. |
| 01:13.27 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, I need the output of "dbus-util --capture com.palm.appinstaller" while you're trying to install the app. |
| 01:13.58 | rwhitby-treo | zsoc: I'd just do a symlink ;-) |
| 01:14.11 | pjjohn73 | while trying to install an app from palm app catalog? |
| 01:14.15 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: yes |
| 01:14.22 | pjjohn73 | how do i do that? |
| 01:14.36 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: after you pastebin each thing, paste the URL it gives you back in here so we know where to look. |
| 01:15.09 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: oh, that's a good point - I wonder if quick install's command line thingo can do this. |
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| 01:15.42 | pjjohn73 | what should I install on the pre to do this? |
| 01:16.13 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: novaterm access would be best - what host PC OS do you use ? |
| 01:16.37 | pjjohn73 | I am running WinXP Pro |
| 01:17.29 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: looks like it will work in webos quick install |
| 01:17.43 | pjjohn73 | oh ok |
| 01:17.45 | rwhitby-treo | type "dbus-util --capture com.palm.appinstaller" into the linux command line window |
| 01:17.55 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 01:18.10 | rwhitby-treo | it won't return immediately, since it will be waiting to report stuff that happens when you use the app catalog to install something |
| 01:18.44 | webos | quick question (please let me know if I need to wait for pjjohn73's issue to be resolved before submitting additonal questions), if i am using more than 100MB of space on /var will fair dinkum work. i ask because i have package manager service 0.9.15 installed and fair dinkum unistalled and i still get the out of memory error |
| 01:18.46 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: having the Terminal app open on the Pre will be useful too |
| 01:18.46 | pjjohn73 | ok trying to install now |
| 01:19.07 | rwhitby-treo | webos: what's the output of "df /var" ? |
| 01:19.11 | zsoc | OH MY GOD IT WORKED |
| 01:19.14 | zsoc | sorry. |
| 01:19.33 | webos | rwhitby i assume youw ant me to run that in terminal, correct? |
| 01:19.54 | pjjohn73 | it seems to just be hanging. nothing happening |
| 01:19.55 | rwhitby-treo | webos: yes, or webos quick install linux command line, or novaterm, or ssh. |
| 01:20.09 | zsoc | pjjohn73, it's suppose to hang, just leave it |
| 01:20.10 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: nothing will happen until you try to install something with the app catalog |
| 01:20.28 | pjjohn73 | yes I have tried to install something already |
| 01:20.42 | webos | one sec |
| 01:20.59 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: one sec, I'll test that on my Pre |
| 01:21.10 | webos | the printout in terminal seems garbled. let me run it in webos quickinstall |
| 01:21.34 | webos | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.54 | pjjohn73 | ok. no prob |
| 01:21.57 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: are you sure you typed it correctly (without the quotes) ? |
| 01:22.11 | webos | i'll try it again |
| 01:22.32 | webos | df space/var no quotes. correct? |
| 01:22.33 | rwhitby-treo | webos: you're on the borderline of the 100MiB free (60%) |
| 01:22.38 | pjjohn73 | i will double check. I copy and pasted. It does not have quotes |
| 01:22.50 | webos | oops hat wasnt at me |
| 01:23.03 | webos | ok. so does that me i need to use mvapp |
| 01:23.25 | rwhitby-treo | webos: if you have less than 102400 blocks available on /var, the app catalog will refuse to install, and you need to use mvapp (easy) or meta-doctor (more drastic) |
| 01:23.45 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: and you tried to install something after you had pasted it into wosqi ? |
| 01:23.51 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: you arount |
| 01:24.11 | webos | rwhitby: ok. just checking. i'll try mvapp. doesnt look too complciated |
| 01:24.11 | pjjohn73 | this is what i have in webos quickinstall ..... dbus-util --capture com.palm.appinstaller |
| 01:24.33 | pjjohn73 | yes i tried, i will do everything again... |
| 01:26.04 | pjjohn73 | just copied this in command line.. (dbus-util --capture com.palm.appinstaller) and then tried to install an app. Nothing happens |
| 01:26.04 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, looks like it does not show the output unless you unplug the Pre |
| 01:26.23 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: if you unplug the Pre after trying the install, you'll get the output. |
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| 01:27.09 | webos | rwhitby: is it better to move homebrew apps so that the next webos update doesn't mess up app catalog apps? |
| 01:27.30 | pjjohn73 | ok done and pasted |
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| 01:27.45 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: what is the URL the pastebin gave you back? |
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| 01:28.31 | pjjohn73 | I dont see a url?? |
| 01:28.46 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: the URL in the web browser should have changed |
| 01:28.50 | rwhitby-treo | http://webos.pastebin.com/m37773d4a |
| 01:29.09 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: what is the output of "df /var" right now? |
| 01:29.13 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m37773d4a |
| 01:29.37 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: the "result":2 is app catalog saying there is no space. now we find out why ... |
| 01:29.47 | pjjohn73 | i c |
| 01:30.04 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: what is the output of "df /var" right now? |
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| 01:30.51 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m2b4f178a |
| 01:31.01 | pjjohn73 | 27% |
| 01:32.07 | pjjohn73 | is all you need is the URL? |
| 01:33.22 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: yep |
| 01:33.35 | rwhitby-treo | ok, you have plenty of space left. |
| 01:33.53 | pjjohn73 | k |
| 01:34.16 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: please run "mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save" - make sure you have no typing mistakes |
| 01:34.19 | pjjohn73 | does the classic app put apps and books etc in this same space? |
| 01:34.24 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 01:34.48 | pjjohn73 | done |
| 01:34.54 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: it does, but you have 180+MiB free - you should only need 100MiB free. |
| 01:35.18 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: can you run the dbus-util command again, try to install an app, and capture the output again? |
| 01:35.30 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 01:38.08 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m10e9c7f1 |
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| 01:39.08 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: did the app install? |
| 01:39.23 | pjjohn73 | nope. memory limit error |
| 01:39.54 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, that means that the ipkg wrapper in ipkgservice (which used to be in fair dinkum) is not the cause of the problem |
| 01:40.01 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: pong |
| 01:40.05 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: to be sure, what is the output of "which ipkg" ? |
| 01:40.39 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m3912b8da |
| 01:41.02 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, I know what's happening now. |
| 01:41.28 | pjjohn73 | ok. cool... do i need to delete this?...............mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save |
| 01:41.39 | pjjohn73 | the saved one? |
| 01:41.47 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: when fixing the ipkg wrapper for people who had less than 64MiB of applications installed, it's now not working for those with more than 64MiB installed (i.e. you). |
| 01:42.11 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: move it back again "mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save /usr/local/bin/ipkg" |
| 01:42.35 | pjjohn73 | ok will do................ so this is an unexpected side affect? |
| 01:43.01 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: yes. we'll need to make the ipkg wrapper script smarter. |
| 01:43.40 | webos | rwhitby: i moved a bunch of apps using mvapp but still no luck. here's my output from df /var root@castle: df /var Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/store-var 253920 126608 127312 50% /var. Do I need to move more? |
| 01:43.41 | pjjohn73 | so is that the package service manager? |
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| 01:44.03 | rwhitby-treo | webos: you're hitting the same problem as pjjohn73 |
| 01:44.07 | pjjohn73 | so is that the package service manager? the ipkg wrapper i mean' |
| 01:44.24 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: no, that's the functionality from fair dinkum which has been added |
| 01:44.42 | pjjohn73 | ic it is added in the preware app now? |
| 01:44.53 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: it is added in the package manager service package |
| 01:45.03 | rwhitby-treo | are either of you able to edit a file on the Pre? |
| 01:45.17 | pjjohn73 | i could try |
| 01:45.47 | webos | rwhitby: i've never edited a file before on the pre |
| 01:45.57 | pjjohn73 | i had putty and some other apps on here once to edit files but no longer on here |
| 01:46.18 | pjjohn73 | i could copy it using webos quickinstall edit it and put back |
| 01:46.29 | pjjohn73 | correct |
| 01:46.33 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: correct |
| 01:46.42 | pjjohn73 | ill give it a shot then |
| 01:47.09 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, you need to get that ipkg file, and comment out (put a # at the start of the line) the line that has list_installed in it. |
| 01:47.23 | ehsan | hey guys. anyone able to get battery percentage patch working on 1.2.1? |
| 01:47.46 | pjjohn73 | ok. what ipkg file am i getting and what is the path |
| 01:48.00 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: make sure your editing program does not change it to DOS line endings. then put it back, run ls -l /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 01:48.11 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: oh, hang on. |
| 01:48.30 | pjjohn73 | ok hanging..... |
| 01:48.35 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: I have a different idea. |
| 01:48.38 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 01:48.51 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save |
| 01:49.21 | pjjohn73 | done |
| 01:49.53 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: echo 'echo "org.webosinternals.ipkgservice - 0.9.13 - Package Manager Service"' > /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 01:50.04 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: make sure you cut and paste that to get the quotes right |
| 01:50.15 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: chmod ugo+x /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 01:50.18 | pjjohn73 | ok... starting with first echo? |
| 01:50.23 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: yes |
| 01:50.42 | pjjohn73 | done |
| 01:51.07 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: type "/usr/local/bin/ipkg" to run it and it should output something |
| 01:51.34 | pjjohn73 | permision denied |
| 01:51.46 | PuffTheMagic | did everyone go trick or treating? |
| 01:51.48 | PuffTheMagic | oil: ping |
| 01:51.49 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: ping |
| 01:52.08 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: did you run the chmod command? |
| 01:52.10 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, pong |
| 01:52.19 | egaudet | nick stuff almost done |
| 01:52.23 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: so u guys didnt come to a resolution about the nick sht? |
| 01:52.28 | pjjohn73 | no. what exactly do i type? |
| 01:52.34 | egaudet | we did |
| 01:53.17 | pjjohn73 | this work? mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 01:53.50 | egaudet | hey PuffTheMagic, join #wirc_test with from wirc to test stuff so we don't have to flood this channel when we test various things |
| 01:54.05 | kesne | I'm going to broadcast my trick-or-treating live |
| 01:54.19 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: will you take a break from gardening and make the 2 tmp repos visible untill i either fix pym or move them to proper dirs on webos |
| 01:54.27 | *** part/#webos-internals Puffy_wIRC (n=nobody@72-60-230-158.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 01:54.30 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: chmod ugo+x /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 01:54.50 | pjjohn73 | ok, will i need to undo this command later? |
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| 01:55.02 | rwhitby-treo | PuffTheMagic: no, cause people will blog and give the wrong web URLs |
| 01:55.35 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m4167676b |
| 01:56.02 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: try installing the app now |
| 01:56.18 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby-treo: and that will affect you how? |
| 01:56.40 | pjjohn73 | working now rwhitby |
| 01:56.58 | rwhitby-treo | the number of incorrect blog postings that people follow, and then come here or on threads when they no longer work, will increase. |
| 01:57.18 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: you arent even in #webos_test |
| 01:57.23 | PuffTheMagic | wtf |
| 01:57.25 | webos | rwhitby: can i do what pjjohn73 did in wosqi? |
| 01:57.48 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, it's strange that that works for you now, but didn't work for dannns-guest last night. |
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| 01:58.32 | rwhitby-treo | webos: yes, you can. |
| 01:58.32 | pjjohn73 | hmm. what did you do excactly take me to the previous version? |
| 01:58.57 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, I said #wirc_test |
| 01:59.05 | PuffTheMagic | oh |
| 01:59.07 | egaudet | :P |
| 01:59.18 | webos | rwhitby: i simply type each line (in the order that you provided) in the inuxcommand line box? |
| 01:59.34 | pjjohn73 | do I need to undo this command?? ....................... chmod ugo+x /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 01:59.44 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73, webos: you can use this work-around for the moment. when the next version of ipkgservice is released, you will want to remove the new file you created and move the old one back into place before updating the Package Manager Service |
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| 02:00.24 | rwhitby-treo | ponders how to fix it correctly ... |
| 02:01.01 | pjjohn73 | can you give me the command line to do that so I could copy it for later? |
| 02:01.19 | PuffTheMagic | oil: there is a new wIRC bug |
| 02:01.32 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: rm /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:01.35 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i have to join a channel twice to spawn a new channel card! |
| 02:01.53 | pjjohn73 | thats it? |
| 02:01.54 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:02.02 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: two commands |
| 02:02.39 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, how do you get that bug? |
| 02:02.57 | webos | rwhitby: am i running these commands in linuxcommand line in webosqi? |
| 02:03.04 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i installed latest wIRC |
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| 02:03.05 | rwhitby-treo | webos: yep |
| 02:03.08 | PuffTheMagic | and tried joining a channel |
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| 02:03.11 | egaudet | I'm running latest wIRC |
| 02:03.12 | PuffTheMagic | and nothing happens |
| 02:03.12 | egaudet | without that issue |
| 02:03.15 | PuffTheMagic | then i join again |
| 02:03.18 | PuffTheMagic | and it get a new card |
| 02:03.19 | rwhitby-treo | webos: but don't do those two commands before you've done all the others |
| 02:03.21 | pjjohn73 | ok simple enough....... do i need to undo this command? (chmod ugo+x /usr/local/bin/ipkg) |
| 02:03.21 | egaudet | maybe gotta way for MOTD to finish |
| 02:03.30 | PuffTheMagic | i do |
| 02:03.33 | PuffTheMagic | thats not the issue |
| 02:03.52 | webos | rwhitby: i got to the place where i was supposed to get an output but no output came up |
| 02:04.38 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: the remove fixes that |
| 02:05.11 | pjjohn73 | ok... Thanks rwhitby! |
| 02:05.46 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, doesn't happen on my end hmm |
| 02:06.28 | webos | rwhitby: i guess i did this right because i can now install apps. i fell ass backwards into your solution. |
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| 02:07.59 | pjjohn73 | +rwhitby-treo: Thanks |
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| 02:08.31 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: hang around - I'm going to release a work-around test ipkg. Are you able to download and install an ipkg with wosqi? |
| 02:08.35 | rwhitby-treo | webos: you too |
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| 02:09.23 | pjjohn73 | bye all. have a good evening |
| 02:09.25 | webos | rwhity: thanks much for your help and patience. i want to verify that before i update the package manegr service i need to run the two followng commands: rm /usr/local/bin/ipkg and mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:09.36 | *** part/#webos-internals scooter26 (n=ajpoohay@72-60-77-22.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 02:09.51 | rwhitby-treo | webos: yes - double check that you have a /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save file first |
| 02:10.01 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: hang around |
| 02:10.09 | webos | rwhitby: how do i do that. |
| 02:10.10 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 02:10.19 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: do you still have the work-around in place? |
| 02:10.34 | rwhitby-treo | webos: ls -l /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save |
| 02:11.12 | lenux2 | hi anyone working on a irc client yet or is term and irssi still the work around just picked up a pre 3 weeks ago and installed sdk now |
| 02:11.35 | pjjohn73 | yes I do |
| 02:11.57 | webos | rwhitby: i assume this output means i do: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 68 Oct 31 21:02 /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save -> /var/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.ipkgservice/files/ipkg |
| 02:12.00 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: echo 'echo "org.webosinternals.ipkgservice - 1.0.0 - Package Manager Service"' > /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:12.03 | rwhitby-treo | webos: that's correct |
| 02:12.27 | egaudet | oil, |
| 02:12.28 | egaudet | ping |
| 02:12.32 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: run that, then try to install another app |
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| 02:12.44 | egaudet | oil_pre ping |
| 02:13.06 | oil_pre | eh? |
| 02:13.20 | oil_pre | is still at family thing... |
| 02:13.24 | PuffTheMagic | escaping these quotes is gonna suck |
| 02:13.33 | egaudet | "" |
| 02:13.40 | oil_pre | its gotta be done though |
| 02:13.50 | egaudet | I am getting "nick" === "nick" to be false |
| 02:13.53 | pjjohn73 | still works.... what did this do? |
| 02:13.56 | egaudet | hats js |
| 02:13.56 | oil_pre | or else the app never gets it |
| 02:13.59 | egaudet | hates* |
| 02:14.29 | pjjohn73 | actually i see a problem |
| 02:14.58 | pjjohn73 | that last two apps I downloaded seemed to work... but I have no app icons in the launcher |
| 02:15.13 | oil_pre | rescan |
| 02:15.48 | egaudet | oil_pre, answer me this. how do i log some object nick and get "etmp" but length that object is 1? That mean it's a String? or |
| 02:15.50 | pjjohn73 | im going to restart Luna |
| 02:15.58 | webos | i haev the same problem as pjjohn73. |
| 02:15.59 | oil_pre | egaudet.. did you have a q? |
| 02:16.00 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: yes, the crude single line you have there will have that bad side-effect |
| 02:16.06 | egaudet | ^^ |
| 02:16.14 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: that's why you need to wait for the update I'm going to push soon |
| 02:16.24 | egaudet | how do i get the type of an object |
| 02:16.33 | egaudet | blah.typeOf() ? |
| 02:16.53 | webos | *waiting* watches world series |
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| 02:16.53 | *** mode/#webos-internals [+v PreGame] by ChanServ |
| 02:16.57 | pjjohn73 | ok so should i undo the changes so for and wait? |
| 02:17.10 | oil_pre | looks in log, sees you're typing quotes... |
| 02:18.04 | egaudet | you can't see quotes oil? |
| 02:18.08 | egaudet | hehe sorry |
| 02:18.21 | pjjohn73 | the apps i downloaded seem as if they are not on the pre now.. are they on it not showing and taking up room? or really not on the pre? |
| 02:18.25 | oil_pre | for logging an object I usually for x in obj alert obj[x |
| 02:18.56 | egaudet | that has nothing to do with my question :( |
| 02:19.03 | oil_pre | any line with a quote in it fails in wirc |
| 02:19.23 | oil_pre | I thought I saw you ask how to log |
| 02:19.45 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73, webos: yes, undo and wait |
| 02:19.52 | egaudet | I think I found my answer though |
| 02:20.02 | webos | rwhitby: got it. undoing. |
| 02:20.09 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: when you revert the work-around the apps will reappear on a rescan |
| 02:20.09 | oil_pre | ok |
| 02:20.09 | egaudet | I'm trying to compare an object vs. a string and it's obviously failing, so I gotta figure out why one of them is an object not a string |
| 02:20.23 | oil_pre | oh |
| 02:20.25 | egaudet | and then nick stuff will be done soon |
| 02:20.34 | oil_pre | nice |
| 02:20.54 | oil_pre | has anyone started the nick view scene? |
| 02:21.05 | PuffTheMagic | oil: no |
| 02:21.07 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: please confirm that the apps come back before I release this update |
| 02:21.10 | oil_pre | will make it when he gets home |
| 02:21.11 | PuffTheMagic | oil_pre: idk where to put buttons |
| 02:21.25 | PuffTheMagic | oil_pre: we need a redesign of some things |
| 02:21.36 | PuffTheMagic | these stock palm widgests arent cutting it |
| 02:21.45 | oil_pre | oh? |
| 02:21.53 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i have no idea hwo to escaped this quotes sanely |
| 02:22.06 | egaudet | from where from the wIRC |
| 02:22.09 | pjjohn73 | the app i am trying to download from the app catalog or the preware/package service manager apps? |
| 02:22.11 | egaudet | or the daemon |
| 02:22.12 | oil_pre | how so? |
| 02:22.23 | PuffTheMagic | oil_pre: we can talk when u get back |
| 02:22.27 | PuffTheMagic | im bug fixing now |
| 02:22.32 | oil_pre | ok |
| 02:23.24 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: if have a char **params |
| 02:23.29 | PuffTheMagic | and i want to get the number of elements |
| 02:23.30 | PuffTheMagic | can i do |
| 02:23.42 | PuffTheMagic | sizeof(params)/sizeof(char*) |
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| 02:24.09 | pjjohn73 | +rwhitby-treo: the app i am trying to download from the app catalog or the preware/package service manager apps? |
| 02:24.33 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: the icons in your launcher |
| 02:24.33 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, no |
| 02:24.37 | egaudet | sizeof(char*) = 4 |
| 02:24.54 | PuffTheMagic | so? |
| 02:25.03 | dBsooner | egaudet: should we only allow AlphaNumeric and -'s in patch names? |
| 02:25.17 | PuffTheMagic | if params has 3 elements wont it be 12? |
| 02:25.26 | pjjohn73 | ok, i will try .... just use the two commands to revert back correct? |
| 02:25.34 | pjjohn73 | rm /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:25.45 | pjjohn73 | mv /usr/local/bin/ipkg.save /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:25.49 | pjjohn73 | correct |
| 02:26.37 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: how do i get the number of elements then? |
| 02:26.39 | egaudet | err wait yea |
| 02:26.46 | egaudet | I think it depends on how you alloc'd it |
| 02:26.50 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: yes |
| 02:27.00 | dBsooner | egaudet: Was that "err wait yeah" to me or PuffTheMagic? |
| 02:27.13 | egaudet | if your params was alloc'd for the entire array of strings, I don't think it will work |
| 02:27.21 | egaudet | dBsooner, to PuffTheMagic and yea to you |
| 02:27.29 | egaudet | dBsooner, same restrictions as package id i guess |
| 02:27.40 | dBsooner | which is no special chars |
| 02:27.46 | egaudet | i think |
| 02:27.47 | dBsooner | except - |
| 02:27.50 | egaudet | yea |
| 02:27.55 | dBsooner | k |
| 02:28.11 | PuffTheMagic | oh i dont need to calc this i forgot |
| 02:28.22 | PuffTheMagic | i already knoiw the number of params |
| 02:28.28 | PuffTheMagic | unsigned int count |
| 02:28.29 | PuffTheMagic | :D |
| 02:28.41 | egaudet | :) |
| 02:29.16 | lenux2 | is there a ram mem req for running vm keep getting a low memory error |
| 02:29.23 | pjjohn73 | the icons do not reappear... The apps appear as if they never downloaded. I go in the app catalog and I have the option to redownload.. but I can't do to the memory issue. |
| 02:29.35 | pjjohn73 | so no way to comfirm if the icons will reappear |
| 02:30.56 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: did you do a rescan? |
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| 02:31.11 | pjjohn73 | what do you mean by rescan? reload? |
| 02:31.23 | rwhitby-treo | install the Luna Manager application, and do a rescan |
| 02:31.41 | pjjohn73 | ok. i have that installed.. will do |
| 02:32.30 | egaudet | so oil the this.nick is no longer special just an object reference into the server nicks[] |
| 02:32.37 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: ping |
| 02:32.49 | webos | nick webosNesta |
| 02:32.51 | pjjohn73 | did a rescan and the downloaded apps did not show up as icons in the laucher.. is this what you expect to happen? Or should they be there? |
| 02:33.07 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: are all your other icons back? |
| 02:33.08 | webos | i did a rescan as well. no apps |
| 02:33.37 | pjjohn73 | all of my original icons before talking to you are as should be |
| 02:33.37 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: pastebin "cat /usr/local/bin/ipkg" please |
| 02:33.46 | pjjohn73 | ok |
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| 02:34.46 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m32ba0b8a |
| 02:35.08 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: only 4 lines? |
| 02:35.19 | pjjohn73 | yes |
| 02:35.32 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: you've corrupted the file somewhere. |
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| 02:35.42 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: rm /usr/local/bin/ipkg |
| 02:35.59 | pjjohn73 | ok done.. |
| 02:36.01 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: then go into preware, update your feeds, and upgrade to package manager service 0.9.16 |
| 02:36.09 | rwhitby-treo | webos: same for you |
| 02:36.20 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 02:36.48 | webos | rwhitby: pastebin or rm /usr/local/bin/ipkg? |
| 02:37.09 | pjjohn73 | updates feeds as preware loads correct? |
| 02:37.17 | rwhitby-treo | webos: rm |
| 02:37.41 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: depends on your preferences. I have mine set to update manually, not on each launch |
| 02:37.57 | pjjohn73 | ok. mine at load then |
| 02:38.07 | pjjohn73 | installing now |
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| 02:38.54 | webos | rwhitby: installing now |
| 02:39.24 | rwhitby-treo | please pastebin "cat /usr/local/bin/ipkg" and "ls -l /usr/local/bin/ipkg" after you have updated |
| 02:39.36 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73, webos: both of you please |
| 02:39.58 | webos | rwhitby: how do i generate a link to paste here? |
| 02:40.08 | pjjohn73 | luna restarting will run in minute |
| 02:40.49 | lenux2 | anyone get an hostmemory error after they installed the sdk |
| 02:41.11 | rwhitby-treo | webos: go to webos.pastebin.com |
| 02:41.18 | webos | thx |
| 02:41.45 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m4c3deed2 |
| 02:41.59 | pjjohn73 | still only 4 lines |
| 02:42.45 | webos | http://webos.pastebin.com/m7e0e9805 |
| 02:43.22 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, pushed nick support to wIRC |
| 02:43.28 | egaudet | oil ^^ |
| 02:43.30 | webos | http://webos.pastebin.com/m7203c4ab |
| 02:43.33 | rwhitby-treo | can you both do "grep echo /usr/local/bin/ipkg" and pastebin the result? |
| 02:43.38 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: ok now help me escape these quotes |
| 02:43.42 | egaudet | ok |
| 02:43.57 | egaudet | direct to me the code in question |
| 02:44.07 | egaudet | egaudet-ubuntu> git pull |
| 02:44.07 | egaudet | Already up-to-date. |
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| 02:44.18 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/mde3529f |
| 02:44.23 | webos | http://webos.pastebin.com/m4339e9d9 |
| 02:44.47 | rwhitby-treo | can you both do "grep list_installed /usr/local/bin/ipkg" and pastebin the result? |
| 02:45.31 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m328a6f69 |
| 02:45.31 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: reinstall the apps using the app catalog and tell me if they now appear |
| 02:45.36 | webos | http://webos.pastebin.com/m67585c1c |
| 02:46.13 | rwhitby-treo | ok, you have both updated successfully - looks like webos quick install doesn't provide the full output of the command very well. |
| 02:46.28 | webos | rwhitby: the app appeared |
| 02:46.37 | pjjohn73 | I have downloaded and the icon appears |
| 02:46.37 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73, webos: can you confirm whether app catalog is working now, and all icons are accounted for? |
| 02:46.49 | pjjohn73 | yes |
| 02:46.59 | pjjohn73 | seems to be working fine |
| 02:47.15 | rwhitby-treo | dannns-guest: can you please update to package manager service 0.9.16 and confirm that you can still install to? |
| 02:47.21 | webos | rhwitby: i jsut installed two apps and they both appeared. old apps were not affected |
| 02:47.23 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: ok, you're done then :-) |
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| 02:47.46 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73, webos: please pastebin "ls -l /usr/local/bin" output |
| 02:47.54 | pjjohn73 | ok |
| 02:48.04 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, ?? |
| 02:48.20 | webos | http://webos.pastebin.com/m7333d109 |
| 02:48.37 | pjjohn73 | http://webos.pastebin.com/m4b31af87 |
| 02:48.38 | rwhitby-treo | webos: you're good to go. |
| 02:48.50 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: you too. |
| 02:48.56 | rwhitby-treo | thanks for your help, both of you. |
| 02:48.59 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: 1 sec i think i have a solution |
| 02:49.03 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: actually see PM |
| 02:49.04 | pjjohn73 | Great. Thank you for YOUR help |
| 02:49.09 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: and look in client.c |
| 02:49.10 | webos | many thanks. hpe our little hiccup has contributed to some advancment |
| 02:49.13 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: in dump_event |
| 02:49.26 | webos | thank YOU |
| 02:49.36 | egaudet | I have no PM |
| 02:49.44 | rwhitby-treo | webos: if we get people in here to debug, instead of just posting to threads, we can usually solve the problem. |
| 02:49.56 | pjjohn73 | +rwhitby: Thank you so much.. Thanks for the work you put into this. |
| 02:50.04 | webos | understood. fyi ,y precentral handle is Nesta but i forget the irc commands |
| 02:50.14 | webos | my precentral tag.... |
| 02:50.38 | webos | glad to be of assistance |
| 02:50.40 | pjjohn73 | I would imagine this makes debuging much faster |
| 02:52.26 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: indeed it does. |
| 02:52.33 | rwhitby-treo | goes back to the gardening ... |
| 02:52.53 | pjjohn73 | +rwhitby-treo: Once again Thanks... Is there anything else you might need before I log off. |
| 02:53.09 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: nope, we're all done thanks. |
| 02:53.19 | pjjohn73 | Have a good night then.. |
| 02:53.23 | rwhitby-treo | pjjohn73: perhaps post in the thread your success. |
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| 02:53.44 | pjjohn73 | I will and already update my last post |
| 02:54.09 | pjjohn73 | I will make a new post with my success and this link |
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| 02:58.23 | Discus | Supppppppp |
| 02:58.44 | Discus | I'm wircin away |
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| 03:04.47 | dBsooner | ~spell apostrophe |
| 03:05.00 | dBsooner | ~dict apostrophe |
| 03:05.14 | dBsooner | ~dict apostrophe |
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| 03:07.13 | egaudet-wirc | hi |
| 03:07.52 | Discus | Hi |
| 03:08.06 | Discus | I'm on wirc too |
| 03:08.37 | oil | lol |
| 03:09.37 | zsoc | it's a wirc party |
| 03:09.57 | dwhall | wow still connected... |
| 03:10.24 | egaudet | I may have broke something |
| 03:11.53 | egaudet | ok no |
| 03:12.10 | Discus | Niceeee |
| 03:14.58 | egaudet | hey oil |
| 03:15.06 | oil | yeah |
| 03:15.13 | egaudet | is there a reason to even use the 353 to populate the nick list? |
| 03:15.33 | oil | besides getting all the nicks in a channel? |
| 03:15.34 | egaudet | on connect |
| 03:15.47 | oil | to populate the list |
| 03:16.23 | oil | when we do nick autocomplete we will need some sort of list to go off of |
| 03:16.33 | oil | and doing that could be the very first thing you do when you join |
| 03:16.42 | egaudet | yea |
| 03:16.56 | egaudet | once we actually start needing to use the list (nick list, tab etc...) |
| 03:17.37 | egaudet | I'll let you make the regex parse for that 353 :P |
| 03:17.45 | oil | lol |
| 03:17.51 | oil | well you can't have spaces in names, right? |
| 03:17.55 | egaudet | right |
| 03:18.12 | egaudet | so once you chop off the other stuff, it's just a bunch of nicks separated by spaces |
| 03:18.24 | oil | so params[3].split(" ") |
| 03:18.32 | oil | it displays as blarg,blarg,blarg |
| 03:18.35 | oil | but its an array |
| 03:18.38 | oil | thats just how its printed |
| 03:18.43 | egaudet | oh |
| 03:18.44 | oil | in the debug stuff |
| 03:18.51 | oil | 3rd element in teh array |
| 03:19.00 | oil | is a space-separated list |
| 03:19.03 | oil | rather |
| 03:19.03 | oil | 4th |
| 03:19.09 | oil | 0 is first |
| 03:19.21 | egaudet | well then nice |
| 03:19.25 | oil | but yeah, i can do that |
| 03:19.25 | egaudet | I'll start doing that |
| 03:19.26 | oil | xD |
| 03:19.31 | oil | and ill probably change what you added |
| 03:19.41 | egaudet | I just didn't want to make the regex :P |
| 03:19.49 | oil | to put addchannel/removechannel in the nick model |
| 03:19.55 | oil | then have one getnick function |
| 03:20.07 | oil | to get the nick, then do .addchannel() to it |
| 03:20.21 | egaudet | and then what to do remove channel? |
| 03:20.31 | oil | .removechannel() |
| 03:20.40 | egaudet | you only have one getnick |
| 03:21.01 | oil | you get the nick where they part or whatever |
| 03:21.04 | egaudet | server.getnick(nick, channel) is what you gonna do? |
| 03:21.05 | oil | then .removechannel |
| 03:21.22 | oil | server.getnick(nick).removechannel() |
| 03:21.46 | oil | removechannel(channel) |
| 03:22.26 | oil | and the removechannel function would remove that nick from the server if its the last channel |
| 03:22.42 | egaudet | yea |
| 03:22.47 | egaudet | that is how it should be |
| 03:22.51 | egaudet | you are right! |
| 03:23.01 | oil | both ways work |
| 03:23.09 | egaudet | it's not about working though |
| 03:23.13 | oil | i would just prefer to keep the nick stuff in its model |
| 03:23.15 | egaudet | OOP says you are right |
| 03:23.58 | egaudet | you want me to do that while you do... what did you say you were going to work on next |
| 03:24.42 | oil | doesnt matter to me |
| 03:24.54 | oil | i was going to add the nick list |
| 03:25.32 | oil | what was puff on about not liking the widgets? |
| 03:29.53 | egaudet | what widgets |
| 03:29.53 | egaudet | mojo widgets |
| 03:30.58 | oil | PuffTheMagic: oil_pre: idk where to put buttons |
| 03:30.58 | oil | PuffTheMagic: oil_pre: we need a redesign of some things |
| 03:30.58 | oil | PuffTheMagic: these stock palm widgests arent cutting it |
| 03:32.47 | egaudet | Puff just disappeared, he fell into the abyss of segfaults |
| 03:33.02 | oil | trying to fix the quote problem |
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| 03:45.23 | array_ | hi |
| 03:46.41 | array_ | anyone here? |
| 03:46.45 | oil | no |
| 03:47.45 | array_ | i want to ask about the meta doctor problem |
| 03:48.04 | oil | i dont know if rwhitby-treo is here |
| 03:48.11 | oil | he would be the one who knows about it |
| 03:49.08 | array_ | thanks alot |
| 03:50.20 | egaudet | what should removeChannel() return? |
| 03:50.32 | egaudet | oil ^ |
| 03:51.16 | egaudet | nothing |
| 03:51.29 | oil | probably doesn't need to |
| 03:51.34 | oil | you could always do a true/false |
| 03:51.43 | oil | true it deleted it, false it didn't or wasn't there or something |
| 03:51.57 | oil | incase we find a reason to test it later |
| 03:53.03 | rwhitby-treo | array_ didn't hang around long ... |
| 03:53.33 | rick_home | that's common |
| 03:53.50 | rick_home | I don't think people understand that we don't live with the irc channel on the inside of our eyes. |
| 03:54.21 | scooter26 | maybe he thought oil was being serious about nobody being here |
| 03:54.23 | rwhitby-treo | is taking a break from the heat |
| 03:54.52 | oil | his "thanks alot" came off jerky, too |
| 03:54.58 | oil | like "thanks for nothing" |
| 03:56.54 | PuffTheMagic | im back |
| 03:57.03 | scooter26 | yeah - hard to gauge tone electronically |
| 03:58.06 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: i dont answer questions from new people till they have bin on min 5 min |
| 03:58.19 | PuffTheMagic | i hate the sign on for .5 seconds and bust out a question |
| 03:58.27 | PuffTheMagic | then sign off 1 min later |
| 03:59.44 | PuffTheMagic | oil: whats new |
| 03:59.58 | PuffTheMagic | oil: about those widgets |
| 04:00.11 | PuffTheMagic | i think they they are too big and dont suit a irc client well |
| 04:00.15 | PuffTheMagic | wastes too much space |
| 04:00.19 | PuffTheMagic | we have lots of shit to include |
| 04:00.34 | PuffTheMagic | im not saying i dont like what you have done so far |
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| 04:00.42 | PuffTheMagic | i just think we are gonna need some custom shit |
| 04:00.55 | oil | what other shit are we going to include that wont fit in whats there? |
| 04:01.05 | scooter26 | are there screenshots somewhere of what you guys are working on? |
| 04:01.41 | PuffTheMagic | we have no way of showing topic, buttons to join channels, button to show nick list, etc. |
| 04:01.51 | PuffTheMagic | ^^ just what i could think of in 10s |
| 04:02.09 | oil | we can make stuff fit |
| 04:02.34 | PuffTheMagic | by compromising what? |
| 04:02.45 | oil | idk |
| 04:02.46 | PuffTheMagic | cant fit anything in the channel header |
| 04:02.48 | dBsooner | egaudet: PING! |
| 04:02.49 | scooter26 | you could use a scroller - horizontally, having it snap between a chat view and nick list |
| 04:02.51 | PuffTheMagic | thats already filled |
| 04:02.55 | oil | its not filled |
| 04:02.57 | egaudet | dBsooner, pong |
| 04:03.01 | dBsooner | egaudet: Update feeds.. |
| 04:03.03 | PuffTheMagic | oil: yes it is |
| 04:03.06 | dBsooner | There is something pretty in there |
| 04:03.13 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: I'm going to start marking patches as 1.3.1 compatible as I test them |
| 04:03.28 | dBsooner | dbeames@beames-laptop:~/PalmPre/git/build/autopatch$ ls */Makefile | wc -l |
| 04:03.28 | dBsooner | 104 |
| 04:03.39 | dBsooner | There are 104 Makefiles in autopatch |
| 04:03.43 | dBsooner | which means..... |
| 04:04.32 | rick_home | rwhitby-_ see pm |
| 04:04.37 | egaudet | nice! |
| 04:04.44 | dBsooner | :D |
| 04:04.45 | egaudet | 104 patches, milestone! |
| 04:04.48 | dBsooner | Yup |
| 04:05.07 | dBsooner | 105 would be the No Quick Launcher |
| 04:05.40 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: That is an excellent idea. |
| 04:05.53 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: Have you fixed the build script yet? |
| 04:06.04 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: fixed what? |
| 04:06.27 | dBsooner | special chars in feeds |
| 04:06.36 | dBsooner | canuck software hasn't built in days |
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| 04:06.45 | dBsooner | xml.sax._exceptions.SAXParseException: ../../downloads/canuck-software-feed.xml:69:21: not well-formed (invalid token) |
| 04:06.46 | dBsooner | make[1]: *** [build/.built] Error 1 |
| 04:07.04 | dBsooner | same with precentral.net's xml |
| 04:07.06 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: that's an error message from his hosting provider |
| 04:07.24 | oil | thinks more patches need to be prefixed with "keytoss" |
| 04:07.32 | oil | xD |
| 04:07.42 | rwhitby-_ | oil: how many are at the moment? |
| 04:07.43 | analog` | oil, just wanna say |
| 04:07.48 | oil | lol |
| 04:07.52 | analog` | i was pissed when i saw another blocked app in the app catalog |
| 04:07.54 | dBsooner | rwhitby: look at the mason log |
| 04:07.58 | oil | lol |
| 04:07.59 | oil | yeah |
| 04:08.01 | analog` | doesn't even look as good |
| 04:08.02 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: it's full of errors |
| 04:08.04 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: some themes have invalid xml |
| 04:08.08 | oil | a dollar more, half as many puzzles |
| 04:08.17 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: But its causing things not build right |
| 04:08.17 | oil | im shocked there isn't a review pointing that out yet |
| 04:08.32 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: I fixed the problems with titles, I can't do anything with authors who submit themes with invalid xml, and doesn't stop anything else being built. |
| 04:08.35 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: all of a sudden I get an "update" for a program that shows "Update available as of last week." |
| 04:08.49 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: which package? |
| 04:08.50 | analog` | oil, do you have to buy to review? if so, then no wonder |
| 04:08.59 | oil | yeah, you do |
| 04:09.03 | analog` | no one's gonna pay for that app knowing there is another, better one out there |
| 04:09.31 | oil | PuffTheMagic: http://i34.tinypic.com/212955d.png |
| 04:09.35 | oil | there is still tons of space |
| 04:09.36 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: org.pixelpipe.pre |
| 04:09.42 | dBsooner | PreCentral is feed |
| 04:09.44 | oil | even with the user list button |
| 04:09.55 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: oh, you mean an app, not a theme. |
| 04:10.01 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: Yes |
| 04:10.04 | PuffTheMagic | oil: that channel name is tiny and the channel modes are missing |
| 04:10.08 | dBsooner | "last updated 10/28" |
| 04:10.15 | oil | so some stuff gets cut |
| 04:10.20 | oil | such is life on a small ass screen |
| 04:10.21 | dBsooner | but the update showed up yesterday, not the 28th |
| 04:10.29 | oil | this isn't a desktop app |
| 04:10.39 | PuffTheMagic | oil: or we could come up with better widgets |
| 04:10.55 | PuffTheMagic | but im not saying we have to do that now |
| 04:10.57 | oil | and just throw user familiarity out the window? |
| 04:10.58 | PuffTheMagic | just food for thought |
| 04:11.12 | oil | i mean, to be honest |
| 04:11.17 | oil | im perfectly fine with stuff getting cut off |
| 04:11.22 | PuffTheMagic | functionality > familiarity |
| 04:11.28 | oil | so they can't see the channel modes |
| 04:11.31 | oil | whoopde do |
| 04:11.36 | oil | i never look at them |
| 04:11.36 | PuffTheMagic | this app isnt for aunt minnie |
| 04:11.45 | oil | am i aunt minnie? |
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| 04:11.50 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: so this from canuck is not a problem: File "/usr/lib/python2.5/xml/sax/handler.py", line 38, in fatalError <CR> raise exception |
| 04:12.16 | PuffTheMagic | here we go again |
| 04:12.19 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: canuck-software xml file is broken. nothing I can do. |
| 04:12.28 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: 10-4 |
| 04:12.28 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: try downloading the xml file manually to check it |
| 04:12.43 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: Not my problem, no? ;) |
| 04:12.55 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: nope |
| 04:13.05 | PuffTheMagic | oil: do you know what \u001f is |
| 04:13.14 | oil | no |
| 04:13.19 | oil | but i could google it |
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| 04:14.05 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: Did you get my pm's to you about 3 hours ago to rwhitby-treo? |
| 04:14.43 | PuffTheMagic | oil: im not sure "quotes" is whats causing the issue |
| 04:15.25 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: yep |
| 04:15.29 | oil | why not? |
| 04:15.49 | oil | it breaks the json |
| 04:15.52 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: Ahh, you didn't reply, so I didn't know. |
| 04:15.53 | oil | it can't be parsed |
| 04:16.02 | oil | i dont see how that couldn't be it |
| 04:16.17 | oil | since as soon as a message has a quote in it it errors |
| 04:17.02 | oil | if i escape the \"quotes\" manually |
| 04:17.04 | oil | it works fine |
| 04:19.14 | PuffTheMagic | :/ |
| 04:19.19 | dBsooner | egaudet: can you make the postinst_extra and prerm_extra for No Launcher really quick? |
| 04:19.24 | dBsooner | I would like to push that. |
| 04:19.36 | dBsooner | since we probably aren't going to decide on an update anytime soon. |
| 04:19.47 | dBsooner | Preston did good work on it and it deserves to go out. |
| 04:20.24 | dBsooner | oil: What was that comment about KeyToss? |
| 04:20.29 | egaudet | it's one line change and a transparent image |
| 04:20.31 | oil | a joke |
| 04:20.47 | oil | rather, an attempt at a joke |
| 04:20.47 | dBsooner | egaudet: so what.. he put it together, took screenshots and uploaded it. |
| 04:21.03 | egaudet | cool |
| 04:21.07 | dBsooner | Which is more than most of the other submits I got did. |
| 04:21.20 | egaudet | but it's the first of it's kind dBsooner and can't be taken lightly |
| 04:21.39 | dBsooner | OK. |
| 04:22.03 | egaudet | but I'm in the middle of something |
| 04:22.14 | oil | wirc > patch |
| 04:22.15 | oil | xD |
| 04:22.17 | egaudet | if it's decided we want an exception for this i'll do it a little later |
| 04:22.29 | oil | though |
| 04:22.32 | oil | i do want to use that patch |
| 04:22.36 | dBsooner | So do I. |
| 04:22.47 | oil | i thought you had it manually installed? |
| 04:22.52 | dBsooner | I did |
| 04:23.04 | dBsooner | but I tend to remove things so i can test all the new submissions |
| 04:23.10 | oil | ah |
| 04:23.15 | dBsooner | untill I get my emu running better. |
| 04:24.17 | psykoz | My son turned out to be a good zombie - http://unsociable.org/photos/albums/Connor/zombie01.jpg |
| 04:24.30 | psykoz | And thankfully my pre was there to help catch a good shot of it |
| 04:24.39 | oil | playing with the pink car makes the picture perfect |
| 04:24.45 | psykoz | grins |
| 04:24.49 | egaudet | it's not a patch it's a patch/theme hybrid |
| 04:24.55 | egaudet | :P |
| 04:25.53 | dBsooner | egaudet: Still more of a patch |
| 04:26.03 | dBsooner | I see a theme as changing lots more than just the launcher |
| 04:28.26 | egaudet | the only patch part of it is increasing the app launcher's height |
| 04:28.35 | egaudet | the patch is really a theme because it themes the quick launch image |
| 04:28.39 | egaudet | to be transparent |
| 04:28.55 | egaudet | and then it grows the app launcher to make it look better, but it's definitely not a patch |
| 04:29.08 | dBsooner | ok fine |
| 04:29.41 | egaudet | it's just so simple that it doesn't deserve to be a theme |
| 04:30.00 | egaudet | but I'll make the strict scripts for the exception tomrrow the latest |
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| 04:34.30 | egaudet | oil pushed |
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| 04:34.50 | egaudet | addChannel, removeChannel, getNick, 353 NAMREPLY |
| 04:35.17 | oil | awesome |
| 04:35.20 | egaudet | goes to help debug wIRCd |
| 04:39.59 | PuffTheMagic | yay! |
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| 04:41.08 | v3ritas | hi all |
| 04:43.48 | v3ritas | .join #webos-watercooler |
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| 04:45.26 | Puffy_wIRC | oil ping |
| 04:46.03 | Puffy_wIRC | this \"message\" from wIRC has quotes |
| 04:46.08 | PuffTheMagic | fuck |
| 04:46.20 | PuffTheMagic | well i escaped them |
| 04:46.58 | PuffTheMagic | but I see them in quassel |
| 04:47.06 | dBsooner | http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2009927&posted=1#post2009920 |
| 04:47.08 | PuffTheMagic | but i DONT see them in wIRC |
| 04:47.14 | *** part/#webos-internals dwhall (n=nobody@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 04:47.17 | PuffTheMagic | so i dont think this is right |
| 04:47.34 | PuffTheMagic | i wonder if my profanity scared dwhall and bhuey away |
| 04:47.47 | PuffTheMagic | andit broke nslu2-log |
| 04:47.48 | dBsooner | DOH |
| 04:47.48 | PuffTheMagic | :D |
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| 04:47.58 | dBsooner | nslu2-log has gone away! |
| 04:48.04 | dBsooner | or not |
| 04:48.19 | PuffTheMagic | oil: escaping the quotes is NOT the right fix |
| 04:48.43 | egaudet | dBsooner, no newline at end of file is not the cause |
| 04:48.47 | egaudet | of any problems RE: thread on p |
| 04:48.48 | egaudet | pc* |
| 04:48.50 | dBsooner | egaudet: it fixed it |
| 04:49.01 | egaudet | had to done something else |
| 04:49.13 | dBsooner | it ran fine after I deleted thsoe lines |
| 04:49.17 | dBsooner | probably CR's |
| 04:49.41 | PuffTheMagic | oil: RESPOND! |
| 04:49.42 | PuffTheMagic | :D |
| 04:49.46 | egaudet | why are you putting out packages without verifying patch applies first? |
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| 04:49.56 | oil | ? |
| 04:49.59 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 04:50.09 | oil | just got back |
| 04:50.11 | PuffTheMagic | oil: escaping quotes in the service is not right |
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| 04:50.31 | PuffTheMagic | it fixes the issue for wIRC but breaks it for every other client |
| 04:50.32 | oil | so you added it and it still didn't work? |
| 04:50.42 | dBsooner | egaudet: I verified all of them except that one |
| 04:50.43 | Puffy_wIRC | see \"this\" |
| 04:50.45 | oil | not talking about breaking outgoing quotes |
| 04:50.48 | oil | im talking about incomming quotes |
| 04:50.55 | oil | whats in teh params field of the json |
| 04:50.58 | egaudet | dBsooner, the \no newline thing is part of context so the only way it would have caused problem is if the original file the patch was generated off was wrong (i.e. contained newline vs. not containing newline in stock doctor) |
| 04:51.00 | oil | needs to be escaped |
| 04:51.01 | PuffTheMagic | incomming in what sense |
| 04:51.11 | egaudet | i THINK |
| 04:51.19 | oil | so when the message gets to the service |
| 04:51.23 | oil | before its put into json |
| 04:51.25 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i escaped all quotes in params |
| 04:51.36 | egaudet | but anyway, stupid windoze creating patches for linux files :( |
| 04:51.42 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i am not following |
| 04:51.43 | oil | escaping them in outgoing doesn't make sense |
| 04:51.56 | dBsooner | egaudet: I'm telling you, all I did was delete everything below the actual "code" of the patch. |
| 04:52.06 | dBsooner | and saved it.. scp'd it to pre. rand dry-run, fixed. |
| 04:52.09 | PuffTheMagic | oil: incomming/outgoing is confusing idk what you are tlaking about |
| 04:52.24 | PuffTheMagic | incoming to service or incomming to wIRCd |
| 04:52.27 | PuffTheMagic | incoming to service or incomming to wIRC |
| 04:52.31 | oil | to wirc |
| 04:52.44 | egaudet | dBsooner, you probably saved it in unix mode |
| 04:52.52 | PuffTheMagic | oil: incomming ot wIRC is outgoing from wIRCd |
| 04:52.53 | egaudet | and it was in dos mode before (<CR> containing) |
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| 04:52.59 | oil | "test" |
| 04:53.09 | oil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:53.13 | PuffTheMagic | and every param w/ "quotes" going out of wIRCD is escaped |
| 04:53.14 | oil | that is broken json |
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| 04:53.35 | oil | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.43 | PuffTheMagic | oil: that looks like you need to add escapes in wIRC before sending out |
| 04:53.55 | oil | thats from wircd to wirc |
| 04:53.57 | dBsooner | can you change the pass |
| 04:53.59 | oil | thats what wircd sends wirc |
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| 04:54.10 | dBsooner | like in PHP.. 'this "is ok" to do' |
| 04:54.20 | PuffTheMagic | i am so confused |
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| 04:54.29 | dBsooner | you don't have to escape parentheses inside of quotes |
| 04:54.41 | dBsooner | err.. not parentheses.. |
| 04:54.45 | dBsooner | double quotes |
| 04:54.46 | *** part/#webos-internals oil_wirc (n=nobody@66-189-216-38.dhcp.ykma.wa.charter.com) |
| 04:55.11 | dBsooner | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.12 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i still dont get what you want me to do |
| 04:55.18 | dBsooner | could you do that.. ^^ |
| 04:55.25 | oil | when wircd sends data to wirc |
| 04:55.32 | oil | the items in the params array |
| 04:55.41 | oil | need to have quotes escaped |
| 04:55.57 | oil | so "test" |
| 04:56.05 | oil | becomes \"test\" |
| 04:56.10 | oil | so when its in the json string |
| 04:56.15 | rwhitby-_ | dBsooner: 10 patches for 1.3.1 so far |
| 04:56.16 | oil | its "\"test\"" |
| 04:56.20 | PuffTheMagic | woah!!! |
| 04:56.24 | dBsooner | rwhitby-_: pm.. |
| 04:56.49 | PuffTheMagic | oil: you mean when wIRC uses client_cmd_msg i need to escap quotes in text? |
| 04:56.58 | oil | no |
| 04:57.18 | oil | when wircd sends data to wirc through the client_connect subscription |
| 04:57.19 | PuffTheMagic | oil: w/ the service I have now, i escape all quotes in params[] |
| 04:57.33 | PuffTheMagic | and that is not the right fix |
| 04:57.44 | oil | are you in this channel on that service? |
| 04:57.49 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: what about my idea? it works in PHP.. so I thought it might work in java.. |
| 04:57.57 | oil | php and java? |
| 04:57.59 | Puffy_wIRC | yes right here |
| 04:58.00 | oil | this is c and javascript |
| 04:58.04 | dBsooner | lol |
| 04:58.11 | oil | ok |
| 04:58.14 | dBsooner | Alot of languages are the same |
| 04:58.21 | oil | do you see "this" message in your chat window? |
| 04:58.23 | dBsooner | s/same/similar/ |
| 04:58.34 | Puffy_wIRC | oil are you on a non wIRC client? |
| 04:58.41 | oil | this is just data to wirc |
| 04:58.45 | oil | where it starts doesn't matter |
| 04:58.51 | oil | there may very well be a problem the other direction |
| 04:58.56 | oil | the only one im talking about is one direction |
| 04:59.01 | oil | did you see that message? |
| 04:59.25 | PuffTheMagic | oil: your "fix" fixed shit in one direction then broke shit in another direction |
| 04:59.41 | oil | so you got the quoted message to wirc? |
| 04:59.54 | oil | i could very well need to quote shit i send to wircd |
| 04:59.55 | rwhitby-_ | this new IRC app seems to have dropped the level of social discourse in this channel ... |
| 05:00.08 | dBsooner | yup |
| 05:00.20 | Puffy_wIRC | this message is from \"wIRC\" through \"wIRCd\"... see how its broken |
| 05:00.20 | rick_home | no kidding. |
| 05:00.56 | oil | it certainly looks broken |
| 05:01.01 | rwhitby-_ | points to http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/1.3.1/ as an initial batch ... |
| 05:01.07 | PuffTheMagic | oil: it looks right on wIRC though |
| 05:01.12 | PuffTheMagic | but it looks broken on quassel |
| 05:01.13 | rick_home | One wonders if our vocabular is going to descend from it's previous elysian heights into vile invective and vague comonality. |
| 05:01.33 | rwhitby-_ | rick_home++ |
| 05:01.34 | oil | i think you made too many changes |
| 05:01.41 | rwhitby-_ | ~karma rick_home |
| 05:01.41 | infobot | rick_home has neutral karma |
| 05:01.42 | oil | i was only talking about the one problem |
| 05:01.55 | oil | that mesages with quotes werent getting to the app |
| 05:02.02 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: this is 1 bottle of wine + 1 22oz beer + 1 shot of sambuca + 1 manhattan's fault |
| 05:02.04 | oil | i never tried quotes from wirc to the service |
| 05:02.05 | PuffTheMagic | not wIRC's fault |
| 05:02.17 | rick_home | ~karma rwhitby |
| 05:02.17 | infobot | rwhitby has neutral karma |
| 05:02.22 | rick_home | ahhh |
| 05:02.29 | oil | ~karma oil |
| 05:02.29 | infobot | oil has neutral karma |
| 05:02.36 | oil | lol |
| 05:03.18 | rick_home | PuffTheMagic: -- I am afraid I have little personal experiance. 8 oz of ethanol causes you to be able to function analytically but vulgarly? Wow, that's an odd thing. :-) |
| 05:03.48 | oil | "shit" is vulgar? |
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| 05:04.01 | egaudet | vulgar by smell? |
| 05:04.21 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 05:05.09 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: alcohol lowers your inhibitions not analytical skills |
| 05:05.11 | dBsooner | just so I can learn something, how do I know if a file exists only in the v1.3.1-0 branch? |
| 05:05.23 | oil | so, did the change to params allow quoted messages to get to wirc? |
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| 05:09.16 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i thought i explained that |
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| 05:09.41 | PuffTheMagic | oil: it allows quoted messages to get to wIRC but then shows \ to all non wIRC clients |
| 05:09.59 | oil | so it looks like messages from wirc to wircd |
| 05:10.10 | oil | need ot be stripped of quoted slashes before being sent to the interwebs |
| 05:10.31 | PuffTheMagic | you need to do that in wIRC before sending them to wIRCd |
| 05:10.33 | PuffTheMagic | i beleive |
| 05:10.37 | oil | i never add quotes |
| 05:10.42 | oil | i mean slashes |
| 05:10.47 | PuffTheMagic | thats the problem |
| 05:11.02 | PuffTheMagic | you need to search for " in any message and replace it with \" |
| 05:11.02 | oil | the json that wirc sends to wircd should be slashed |
| 05:11.15 | oil | which it looks like it already is |
| 05:11.33 | oil | wircd needs to strip them before sending the string to the internet |
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| 05:12.00 | oil_wirc | \"this\" |
| 05:12.09 | oil | was using this service |
| 05:12.14 | oil | the one i have |
| 05:12.21 | oil | so its already slashed when it gets to the service |
| 05:12.29 | PuffTheMagic | right |
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| 05:12.42 | oil | so the service should strip the slashed quotes before sending it out |
| 05:12.45 | oil | to the internet |
| 05:12.47 | PuffTheMagic | i can remove slashes from client_cmd_msg |
| 05:12.55 | PuffTheMagic | oil: OR |
| 05:13.01 | PuffTheMagic | we could encode the message some how |
| 05:13.03 | oil | and probably anywhere else its sent out |
| 05:13.05 | PuffTheMagic | which might be easier |
| 05:13.06 | *** part/#webos-internals oil_wirc (n=nobody@66-189-216-38.dhcp.ykma.wa.charter.com) |
| 05:13.30 | oil | how would we encode it? |
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| 05:14.03 | PuffTheMagic | uuencode? |
| 05:14.04 | PuffTheMagic | idk |
| 05:14.35 | oil | i mean, stripping the slashes of anything the service gets from the app would do it |
| 05:14.35 | PuffTheMagic | searching for \" is gonna be a bitch |
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| 05:15.19 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: u reading this |
| 05:15.26 | PuffTheMagic | how the hell are we gonna do this |
| 05:15.57 | egaudet | no I'm not reading it |
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| 05:16.05 | egaudet | what are you guys talking about? |
| 05:16.13 | oil | lol |
| 05:16.22 | egaudet | all will be fine |
| 05:16.26 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: we have to find \" and replace it with \\" |
| 05:16.31 | egaudet | why |
| 05:16.32 | PuffTheMagic | err |
| 05:16.37 | oil | find \" and replace it with " |
| 05:16.46 | oil | for messages sent from wirc to wircd |
| 05:16.50 | oil | before wircd uses it |
| 05:18.03 | egaudet | what is wircd gonna use it for |
| 05:18.13 | egaudet | and why is wirc sending \ |
| 05:18.16 | oil | just to strip them out before sending it to the internet |
| 05:18.24 | oil | wirc does because they get escaped by the json functions |
| 05:20.18 | oil | it HAS to for the json to be valid |
| 05:21.08 | egaudet | so sending to the service you have to do "key":"value \"quotes\"" |
| 05:21.10 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: so it sounds like we are looking for \\\" and replacing it with \" |
| 05:21.13 | PuffTheMagic | so really |
| 05:21.15 | PuffTheMagic | its more like |
| 05:21.19 | PuffTheMagic | remove \\'s |
| 05:21.32 | oil | \\\"? |
| 05:21.42 | oil | the escaped quote is escaped |
| 05:21.43 | oil | ? |
| 05:21.43 | egaudet | strstr to the rescue |
| 05:22.00 | PuffTheMagic | im lost |
| 05:22.06 | PuffTheMagic | i have no idea what the issue is any more |
| 05:22.09 | oil | lol |
| 05:22.17 | oil | i really don't know how else to explain it |
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| 05:22.49 | Puffy_wIRC | testes |
| 05:23.05 | Puffy_wIRC | \"testes\" |
| 05:23.36 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, |
| 05:23.45 | egaudet | do you see quotes in wIRC with your service? |
| 05:23.52 | PuffTheMagic | nope |
| 05:24.03 | PuffTheMagic | err |
| 05:24.04 | PuffTheMagic | yes |
| 05:24.07 | PuffTheMagic | i dont see the \ |
| 05:24.20 | *** join/#webos-internals Puffy_wIRC (n=nobody@cpe-76-180-121-199.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 05:24.24 | egaudet | so you see "this" |
| 05:24.26 | Puffy_wIRC | lalalala |
| 05:24.32 | egaudet | did you see that? |
| 05:24.35 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: "no" |
| 05:24.56 | oil | so the service still isn't escaping quotes it sends to the app |
| 05:25.08 | Puffy_wIRC | \"nope\" |
| 05:25.16 | oil | maybe we should just come back to this when puff hasn't been drinking |
| 05:25.23 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 05:25.32 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: using a "clean" serice |
| 05:25.34 | oil | i really don't know any other way to explain it then i already have |
| 05:25.34 | PuffTheMagic | service |
| 05:25.38 | oil | there is 2 problems |
| 05:25.41 | PuffTheMagic | on that I havent added that loop to |
| 05:25.44 | oil | both fixable by the service |
| 05:25.57 | PuffTheMagic | when i send a message with quotes from wIRC you guys dont see it |
| 05:26.06 | PuffTheMagic | i mean |
| 05:26.19 | PuffTheMagic | when i send a message with quotes from wIRC you guys get \" |
| 05:26.28 | PuffTheMagic | when a message is sent from a non wIRC client with quotes |
| 05:26.32 | PuffTheMagic | wIRC does not get anything |
| 05:26.34 | oil | right |
| 05:26.42 | egaudet | yea I'm trying to fix the latter first |
| 05:26.52 | oil | messages from wircd to wirc need to be escaped |
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| 05:27.10 | oil | messages from wirc to wircd need to have the slashes stripped |
| 05:29.00 | egaudet | If I could build for the emulator it would speed up debugging tenfold! |
| 05:29.15 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: why are you so slow |
| 05:29.26 | PuffTheMagic | it should make no difference |
| 05:29.28 | egaudet | its the pre |
| 05:29.31 | PuffTheMagic | still need to scp it |
| 05:29.43 | egaudet | it's the pre |
| 05:29.44 | PuffTheMagic | still need to start the service in a term |
| 05:29.48 | PuffTheMagic | its the same damn thing |
| 05:29.51 | egaudet | launching the cards, loading typing join, blah |
| 05:30.17 | oil | emu > pre for testing |
| 05:30.17 | egaudet | i rather just keep everything on my fast computer :P |
| 05:30.20 | PuffTheMagic | well if oil had a perform on join support |
| 05:30.25 | oil | lol |
| 05:30.55 | oil | well ill stop working on the nick list and get right on it |
| 05:31.05 | oil | since every feature is more important then whatever feature is being worked on |
| 05:31.05 | PuffTheMagic | ;) |
| 05:31.10 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 05:31.21 | oil | lol |
| 05:31.39 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: so which bug do you want to fix |
| 05:31.43 | PuffTheMagic | i will fix the other one |
| 05:31.55 | oil | you understand it now? |
| 05:32.17 | PuffTheMagic | oil: yes, just saying "escape quotes in params" was not the asnwer |
| 05:32.33 | egaudet | I'll take the " -> \" |
| 05:32.46 | PuffTheMagic | sure take the easy one |
| 05:32.47 | oil | i definitely explained it like 10 different ways after that |
| 05:33.01 | egaudet | well I was already doing that because I didn't know about the other one yet :P |
| 05:33.11 | PuffTheMagic | ok |
| 05:33.15 | PuffTheMagic | i know how to do tyhe other one |
| 05:33.16 | PuffTheMagic | sorta |
| 05:33.20 | PuffTheMagic | i know what needs to be done |
| 05:33.24 | PuffTheMagic | doing it not easy |
| 05:33.35 | PuffTheMagic | makes another manhattan |
| 05:33.41 | oil | lol |
| 05:35.55 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i bet i beat you |
| 05:36.05 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i just thought of how to do this while going pee |
| 05:36.42 | PuffTheMagic | split the text by " then if last char == \ set that to \0 |
| 05:36.46 | PuffTheMagic | then put the string back together |
| 05:36.47 | PuffTheMagic | :D |
| 05:37.41 | egaudet | well I already thought of mine too |
| 05:37.54 | egaudet | iff' strchr then strtok |
| 05:37.56 | egaudet | :P |
| 05:38.13 | egaudet | too bad strtok doesn't work correctly in the first place! |
| 05:38.28 | PuffTheMagic | thats why i hate strtok |
| 05:38.33 | PuffTheMagic | i was told to always avoid it |
| 05:38.38 | PuffTheMagic | someone recently asked why |
| 05:38.40 | PuffTheMagic | idk who it was |
| 05:38.43 | PuffTheMagic | probably ni| |
| 05:38.48 | PuffTheMagic | or maybe it was you |
| 05:38.49 | PuffTheMagic | idk |
| 05:39.23 | PuffTheMagic | goes and uses strtok |
| 05:39.35 | PuffTheMagic | :D |
| 05:39.47 | *** part/#webos-internals manni66 (n=smisku@HSI-KBW-085-216-069-249.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 05:39.47 | egaudet | it was me |
| 05:39.49 | egaudet | who asked why |
| 05:40.03 | egaudet | :P |
| 05:40.35 | PuffTheMagic | hmmm |
| 05:40.53 | PuffTheMagic | im afraid to search for " again |
| 05:41.01 | PuffTheMagic | maybe i can searchf or \ this time |
| 05:41.05 | PuffTheMagic | and if \+1 = " |
| 05:41.07 | *** join/#webos-internals PreGame (n=PreGame@unaffiliated/pregame) |
| 05:41.07 | *** mode/#webos-internals [+v PreGame] by ChanServ |
| 05:41.13 | egaudet | I can't wait till we have "join on connect" :P |
| 05:41.26 | egaudet | it's not " PuffTheMagic |
| 05:41.31 | oil | everytime someone asks about it, i move it down a notch in my mental todo list |
| 05:41.46 | egaudet | it's the fact that the pointer gets returned when there is no token, rather than NULL as documented |
| 05:41.48 | PuffTheMagic | oil: who asked you about somethingnow? |
| 05:42.00 | egaudet | I can't wait till we have "join on connect" :P |
| 05:42.01 | egaudet | I can't wait till we have "join on connect" :P |
| 05:42.07 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 05:42.13 | PuffTheMagic | oil: no prob |
| 05:42.14 | PuffTheMagic | i will do it |
| 05:42.22 | oil | lol |
| 05:42.39 | oil | its going to require everyone to delete wirc before doing it |
| 05:47.04 | rwhitby-_ | 77 patches now available for webOS 1.3.1 |
| 05:47.17 | oil | right before 1.3.0 xD |
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| 05:48.12 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, forget about str functions |
| 05:48.22 | PuffTheMagic | ? |
| 05:48.28 | PuffTheMagic | are they broke on arm or something? |
| 05:48.29 | egaudet | for loop per char, copy every single char into buf except if it's \ and next is " |
| 05:48.34 | egaudet | so much easier |
| 05:48.46 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 05:48.59 | egaudet | I'm doing that, changes 15 lines to 5 |
| 05:49.00 | rick_home | egaudet oil Puff can I get a copy of this ???/ |
| 05:49.05 | egaudet | strtok was the wrong way to think of it |
| 05:49.20 | oil | rick, the repo is tmp/wirc.git |
| 05:49.22 | oil | on webosinternals |
| 05:49.29 | oil | its not visible for whatever reason |
| 05:49.37 | oil | you should be able to clone it though |
| 05:49.45 | egaudet | and PuffTheMagic should have a link to a working wIRCd? |
| 05:49.52 | oil | then you'll need to manually install, and run via terminal, the service |
| 05:50.05 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: yeah i dont have anice ipk and event.d for the service yet |
| 05:50.21 | PuffTheMagic | thats too much work for the amount of devel going on |
| 05:50.23 | rick_home | I don't need "nice" |
| 05:50.29 | rick_home | I need "working" |
| 05:50.37 | oil | well, aslong as you dont quote, it works |
| 05:50.37 | oil | xD |
| 05:50.42 | rick_home | Sitting in the freaking airports today I thought I was going to go nuts. |
| 05:50.47 | oil | lol |
| 05:50.49 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: http://omploader.org/vMm8ycQ |
| 05:50.52 | PuffTheMagic | thats the service |
| 05:50.58 | oil | get that on your pre and run it |
| 05:51.10 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: download it to anywhere, call it anything, just run it |
| 05:51.25 | oil | and clone the repo |
| 05:51.36 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: if you put it in your home dir you can start it in terminal easily ;) |
| 05:51.37 | rick_home | just wget it in terminal... |
| 05:51.45 | PuffTheMagic | yup |
| 05:51.54 | PuffTheMagic | wget http://omploader.org/vMm8ycQ -O wIRCd |
| 05:51.56 | PuffTheMagic | ./wIRCd |
| 05:51.58 | PuffTheMagic | ;) |
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| 06:02.10 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: done yet? |
| 06:02.17 | egaudet | lol |
| 06:02.18 | egaudet | are you? |
| 06:03.06 | PuffTheMagic | i think so |
| 06:03.08 | PuffTheMagic | about ot test |
| 06:03.09 | PuffTheMagic | :D |
| 06:04.36 | PuffTheMagic | woot |
| 06:04.38 | PuffTheMagic | segfault |
| 06:06.14 | PuffTheMagic | doh |
| 06:06.16 | PuffTheMagic | that was stupid |
| 06:06.44 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, fixed |
| 06:06.46 | egaudet | bam |
| 06:07.41 | rwhitby-_ | posts http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2009978 |
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| 06:08.40 | oil | awesome |
| 06:09.06 | PuffTheMagic | woot |
| 06:09.09 | PuffTheMagic | yup |
| 06:09.10 | PuffTheMagic | fixed too |
| 06:09.27 | oil | what was that thing on the end? |
| 06:10.22 | PuffTheMagic | end of what? |
| 06:10.24 | egaudet | I pushed |
| 06:10.29 | oil | your message |
| 06:10.30 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i pushed first |
| 06:10.31 | PuffTheMagic | i won |
| 06:10.41 | PuffTheMagic | oil: the "it works" part? |
| 06:10.54 | egaudet | no |
| 06:11.11 | PuffTheMagic | everything looks right on all my clients |
| 06:11.16 | PuffTheMagic | idk what you are talking about |
| 06:11.16 | egaudet | you still haven't pushed |
| 06:11.21 | PuffTheMagic | yes i did |
| 06:11.23 | oil | http://i34.tinypic.com/wjcnx0.png |
| 06:11.31 | PuffTheMagic | damn u |
| 06:11.35 | egaudet | lol |
| 06:11.37 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i did a test pull |
| 06:11.39 | rwhitby-_ | Unfortunately, I was unable to port the Close Slider to Hang Up patch, cause we have not been given permission to license it as open source, so I can't modify it ... |
| 06:11.46 | PuffTheMagic | and u managed to squeek in there |
| 06:11.53 | PuffTheMagic | between pull and push |
| 06:11.57 | PuffTheMagic | what a turd |
| 06:11.57 | egaudet | 77 patches Rod, damn nice |
| 06:12.10 | egaudet | We'll need to get an open source closer slider soon |
| 06:12.12 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: pushed |
| 06:12.20 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: no we dont |
| 06:12.27 | PuffTheMagic | close slider patches must die |
| 06:12.29 | PuffTheMagic | let it say closed source |
| 06:12.32 | PuffTheMagic | leave it out of preware |
| 06:12.34 | PuffTheMagic | its useless |
| 06:12.34 | oil | lo |
| 06:12.36 | oil | l |
| 06:12.39 | PuffTheMagic | let the 1 user use it |
| 06:12.46 | PuffTheMagic | the one who made it and thinks its sweet |
| 06:12.53 | oil | you see my screenshot puff>? |
| 06:12.56 | rwhitby-_ | close slider patch, with preference, and proximity sensor, for the win. |
| 06:13.05 | PuffTheMagic | oil: which one? |
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| 06:13.11 | oil | http://i34.tinypic.com/wjcnx0.png |
| 06:13.18 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, what part of "open source close slider" did you not see? |
| 06:13.28 | egaudet | oh nevermind |
| 06:13.30 | egaudet | i misread |
| 06:13.36 | PuffTheMagic | oil: idk you must have a service from 1990 |
| 06:13.36 | egaudet | what's wrong with close slider patches Puff? |
| 06:13.44 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: pointless |
| 06:13.47 | oil | i think it was made after that |
| 06:13.49 | PuffTheMagic | who talkes with the slider open |
| 06:13.52 | oil | but obviously there is something left over there |
| 06:14.00 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i dont get that |
| 06:14.10 | rwhitby-_ | PuffTheMagic: reports are that many people do. |
| 06:14.21 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: weird |
| 06:14.24 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, you may not but a lot do |
| 06:14.31 | PuffTheMagic | i close my slider while talking |
| 06:14.32 | egaudet | because people slide it open, use universal search |
| 06:14.47 | PuffTheMagic | i close it after im done "universal searching" |
| 06:14.54 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, I do too |
| 06:14.54 | rwhitby-_ | some even say that the extra keyboard area channels the voice better to the microphone ... |
| 06:14.54 | PuffTheMagic | so that patch would hang me up |
| 06:14.56 | PuffTheMagic | befor ei make a call |
| 06:15.06 | rwhitby-_ | can't test that himself yet ... |
| 06:15.17 | rwhitby-_ | PuffTheMagic: not if it checked the proximity sensor |
| 06:15.20 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: i dont believe that |
| 06:15.28 | PuffTheMagic | the channeling the voice |
| 06:15.36 | PuffTheMagic | i think they are on lsd or somthing |
| 06:15.44 | PuffTheMagic | the mic is still in the same spot |
| 06:15.52 | PuffTheMagic | if they put the ear piece in their ear |
| 06:15.53 | rwhitby-_ | yeah, anyone who doesn't see things the same as you *must* be on drugs ;-) |
| 06:16.04 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: now you see it the right way |
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| 06:16.12 | PuffTheMagic | oil: u push recently? |
| 06:16.20 | oil | to wirc? |
| 06:16.27 | oil | i just did a few mins ago |
| 06:16.34 | PuffTheMagic | k |
| 06:16.52 | egaudet | yea wIRC was broken temporarily by me |
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| 06:17.28 | PuffTheMagic | rick_home: hows that working for you? |
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| 06:18.46 | PuffTheMagic | eww |
| 06:18.52 | PuffTheMagic | i see "stuff" this time |
| 06:18.59 | PuffTheMagic | oil: u broke the service |
| 06:19.01 | PuffTheMagic | i mean |
| 06:19.02 | PuffTheMagic | the gui |
| 06:19.08 | PuffTheMagic | before i pulled it looked fine |
| 06:19.16 | PuffTheMagic | now with your latest pulls its good |
| 06:20.06 | PuffTheMagic | s/goog/broke/ |
| 06:20.28 | oil | ? |
| 06:20.46 | PuffTheMagic | before i pulled wIRC everything looked fine when i sent qyotes from wIRC |
| 06:20.57 | PuffTheMagic | but now with your latest changes i see garbage |
| 06:21.14 | oil | uh |
| 06:21.18 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, did you end up using str functions? |
| 06:21.18 | oil | id what to tell you |
| 06:21.27 | oil | idk* |
| 06:21.27 | rwhitby-_ | does anyone have Derek Kessler's email address ? |
| 06:21.31 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: nope, char by char loop |
| 06:21.37 | egaudet | :) |
| 06:21.38 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: idk who that is |
| 06:21.43 | egaudet | yea char by char wins here |
| 06:21.47 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: look for your self |
| 06:21.54 | PuffTheMagic | maybe i messed up |
| 06:21.55 | egaudet | I wish I had gitweb |
| 06:21.55 | rwhitby-_ | PuffTheMagic: known as DarthPooh here and on PreCentral |
| 06:22.02 | PuffTheMagic | oh |
| 06:22.06 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, easy git command to get commit history? |
| 06:22.10 | egaudet | err commit diff |
| 06:22.12 | PuffTheMagic | git log |
| 06:22.19 | egaudet | diff |
| 06:22.21 | PuffTheMagic | copy the commit id |
| 06:22.23 | PuffTheMagic | then do |
| 06:22.23 | oil | i thought darthpooh was kieth |
| 06:22.26 | oil | not derek |
| 06:22.31 | PuffTheMagic | git show commitid |
| 06:22.42 | egaudet | yea darthpooh is keith i thought too |
| 06:23.34 | PuffTheMagic | now i feel left out cause i dont blog |
| 06:23.43 | oil | doesnt blog |
| 06:23.45 | oil | or tweet |
| 06:23.54 | oil | or have my face on a book |
| 06:23.57 | oil | or my own space |
| 06:23.58 | oil | or anything |
| 06:24.19 | PuffTheMagic | i have a face book but dont really use it |
| 06:24.33 | PuffTheMagic | ever since it went non college i dont use it |
| 06:24.38 | egaudet | char text[len]; |
| 06:24.39 | oil | lol |
| 06:24.43 | egaudet | how does that not error on compile |
| 06:24.54 | oil | except that extra character puff doesn't want to fix xD |
| 06:24.55 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: what is wrong with it? |
| 06:25.11 | egaudet | you can't dynamically declare like that I didn't think |
| 06:25.34 | PuffTheMagic | its not dynamic |
| 06:25.38 | egaudet | sure is |
| 06:25.46 | egaudet | it has no idea how much space to create until it runs strlen |
| 06:25.59 | PuffTheMagic | its static/const, sit either 0 or the lenght of the origional string |
| 06:26.03 | PuffTheMagic | how is that dynamic |
| 06:26.15 | PuffTheMagic | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 06:26.16 | egaudet | because it's runtime |
| 06:26.26 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i prob need to add a trailing '\0' |
| 06:26.34 | PuffTheMagic | i bet thats the issue |
| 06:26.42 | PuffTheMagic | tries |
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| 06:29.27 | Puffy_wIRC | "oil"Þ#@ |
| 06:29.41 | PuffTheMagic | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 06:29.50 | PuffTheMagic | "hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm" |
| 06:29.58 | oil | sees no weird square this time |
| 06:30.06 | PuffTheMagic | i do |
| 06:30.27 | Puffy_wIRC | oil "see this"#@x |
| 06:30.57 | oil | i see |
| 06:31.00 | oil | oil "see this"#@x |
| 06:31.05 | PuffTheMagic | i see that too |
| 06:31.10 | rwhitby-_ | oil: you'll enjoy this one: http://twitter.com/rigelbowen/statuses/5328731528 |
| 06:31.13 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: think i could calloc it? |
| 06:31.32 | oil | lol |
| 06:31.47 | PuffTheMagic | rwhitby: if only his head was bigger |
| 06:31.53 | PuffTheMagic | i cant quite see it |
| 06:32.01 | oil | make your screen larger |
| 06:32.46 | egaudet | http://dpaste.com/114899/ |
| 06:33.03 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, I guess the alloc like that works off the stack |
| 06:33.14 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: if it works push it |
| 06:33.22 | egaudet | let me go test |
| 06:33.25 | egaudet | hehe |
| 06:34.38 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: i cant see what you have above char text[strlen.... |
| 06:34.47 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: but u need a if(txt) |
| 06:34.51 | PuffTheMagic | else it will segfault |
| 06:34.56 | PuffTheMagic | cause u cant strlen(0) |
| 06:35.41 | egaudet | oh yea |
| 06:36.13 | PuffTheMagic | watches some "get smart" while egaudet fixes his fail |
| 06:36.58 | PuffTheMagic | oil: what happened to the "slogans" for wIRC |
| 06:37.21 | PuffTheMagic | oil: like "i like the smell of my pee after eating aspragras" and "i eat my buggers and candy off the floor" |
| 06:37.28 | egaudet | oh no |
| 06:37.32 | egaudet | I just got the dreaded, join twice |
| 06:37.39 | oil | i can add a multiline thing |
| 06:37.55 | PuffTheMagic | oil: thats a random "weighted" slogan |
| 06:37.59 | PuffTheMagic | like on preware ;) |
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| 06:38.13 | oil | yeah, i know what you're saying |
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| 06:38.34 | egaudet-wirc | puff "quote" me on that """" "yea" |
| 06:38.53 | egaudet | (process:8051): LunaService-CRITICAL **: Error in message.c:417 |
| 06:38.53 | egaudet | (process:8051): LunaService-CRITICAL **: LSMessageReply: payload is not utf-8 |
| 06:39.01 | egaudet | that's what I got when I first tried to join a channel BTW |
| 06:39.05 | egaudet | so yea quote works |
| 06:39.06 | egaudet | pushing |
| 06:39.20 | PuffTheMagic | feels like crap that his C sucks so bad |
| 06:39.40 | PuffTheMagic | i cant parse strings to save my life |
| 06:40.25 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: idk what happens when we get that payload error |
| 06:40.46 | egaudet | string parse isn't trivial in C |
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| 06:42.16 | Puffy_wIRC | "thanks for fixing MY fail" |
| 06:43.12 | egaudet | :D |
| 06:43.14 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: now we need to figure up why notice dont work |
| 06:43.33 | PuffTheMagic | hmmm |
| 06:43.35 | PuffTheMagic | nm |
| 06:43.43 | PuffTheMagic | try from wIRC |
| 06:44.28 | oil | anyways |
| 06:44.31 | oil | it doesn't work from wirc |
| 06:44.37 | oil | because its not implemented yet |
| 06:44.42 | egaudet | it's just /notice #chan message right? |
| 06:44.47 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 06:44.54 | PuffTheMagic | umm |
| 06:44.56 | oil | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.03 | PuffTheMagic | oil: thats not what i mean |
| 06:45.17 | PuffTheMagic | if you connect to wIRCd w/ luna-send |
| 06:45.22 | PuffTheMagic | and look at the raw messages |
| 06:45.30 | PuffTheMagic | you dont see any NOTICE events come in |
| 06:45.31 | oil | oh, notice doesn't make it to wirc |
| 06:45.32 | PuffTheMagic | from channels |
| 06:45.34 | oil | got ya |
| 06:45.41 | PuffTheMagic | well |
| 06:45.44 | PuffTheMagic | 99% of them dont |
| 06:45.53 | PuffTheMagic | if u look at the early server connect stuff |
| 06:46.00 | PuffTheMagic | you will see 1 or 2 notice messages |
| 06:46.11 | PuffTheMagic | but noithing from "channels" |
| 06:46.36 | oil | there is a case for "NOTICE" |
| 06:46.56 | PuffTheMagic | wonders why "nick icon/button" in the channel header dont do anything |
| 06:47.04 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i commented it out in the gui |
| 06:47.16 | PuffTheMagic | oil: but that does not explain why we dont see it in the service |
| 06:47.34 | PuffTheMagic | well... i didnt see it last time i checked |
| 06:47.56 | PuffTheMagic | oil: oh yeah |
| 06:47.59 | oil | because it doesn't do anything yet |
| 06:48.00 | oil | wth |
| 06:48.04 | oil | stops pushing anything |
| 06:48.26 | PuffTheMagic | oil: so there are 2 functios in the library that have to do with nick/origin |
| 06:48.44 | PuffTheMagic | one of them is a global option to clean up the nicksautomatically |
| 06:48.50 | PuffTheMagic | which i sorta think is bad |
| 06:48.58 | PuffTheMagic | the other is a function |
| 06:49.10 | PuffTheMagic | where u pass origin and it oututs a clean nick |
| 06:49.25 | PuffTheMagic | i could run that in the service |
| 06:49.28 | oil | not really needed |
| 06:49.31 | PuffTheMagic | and add that as an extra param |
| 06:49.38 | PuffTheMagic | oil: might be faster in |
| 06:49.39 | PuffTheMagic | C |
| 06:49.54 | PuffTheMagic | but w/e |
| 06:49.57 | PuffTheMagic | im just saing |
| 06:50.01 | PuffTheMagic | we have options to explore |
| 06:50.11 | PuffTheMagic | i know you like to parse stuff in JS |
| 06:50.52 | PuffTheMagic | wished he knew what causes the " LSMessageReply: payload is not utf-8" issue |
| 06:50.57 | oil | nothing like that |
| 06:51.21 | oil | im just saying, there is no need to change it right now |
| 06:51.39 | egaudet | http://dpaste.com/114903/ |
| 06:51.48 | egaudet | this keeps repeating in my /var/log/messages |
| 06:52.03 | PuffTheMagic | things the 2nd manhattan is kicking in |
| 06:52.43 | PuffTheMagic | black velvet makes smooth manhattans (and i have CC and CR available) |
| 06:52.47 | PuffTheMagic | and JB |
| 06:52.52 | PuffTheMagic | BV >>> * |
| 06:54.05 | egaudet | can we forget about /notice? |
| 06:54.54 | PuffTheMagic | ummm forever no, for now fine |
| 06:55.42 | egaudet | forever |
| 06:55.52 | oil | nobody ever uses it |
| 06:55.58 | oil | lol |
| 06:56.54 | PuffTheMagic | oil: u dont |
| 06:57.09 | oil | lol |
| 06:57.09 | PuffTheMagic | oil: thats not an excuse to make it half assed and incomplete |
| 06:57.19 | egaudet | PuffTheMagic, join #wirc |
| 06:57.39 | oil | right, so fix your code so it actually works |
| 06:57.39 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: im going to bed shortly |
| 06:57.46 | egaudet | join quickly |
| 06:57.47 | PuffTheMagic | oil: that was the goal |
| 06:57.52 | oil | lol |
| 06:57.56 | egaudet | just want to see "has joined" |
| 06:59.15 | egaudet | oil, you got a message function to use for "blah has changed his nick to blah" |
| 06:59.42 | oil | newStatusMessage? |
| 07:00.03 | egaudet | for the channel? |
| 07:00.31 | oil | channel. |
| 07:00.32 | oil | yeah |
| 07:00.34 | oil | its there |
| 07:00.40 | oil | doesn't matter to me |
| 07:00.56 | oil | that stuff was pre-service |
| 07:01.30 | PuffTheMagic | newGenericMessage |
| 07:01.45 | PuffTheMagic | im gonna clean all that shit up tomorrow |
| 07:02.06 | PuffTheMagic | oil: i couldnt figure out how to chane the text color |
| 07:02.27 | oil | styles |
| 07:02.47 | oil | what the message object sets the style to |
| 07:02.51 | oil | relates to values in teh css |
| 07:02.54 | oil | which set the color |
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| 07:15.27 | egaudet | why does omploader tell me I am a trad |
| 07:15.42 | oil | ? |
| 07:15.55 | egaudet | how do i upload a binary |
| 07:15.58 | egaudet | where* |
| 07:16.01 | oil | omploader? |
| 07:16.12 | oil | http://omploader.org/ |
| 07:16.12 | oil | ? |
| 07:16.15 | oil | thats what puff uses |
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| 07:20.05 | egaudet | firefox and my / partitonn don't get along |
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| 07:46.28 | hmagoo | michael, just speak to your pre and your audio will return spontaneously |
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| 07:59.40 | egaudet | hmm |
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| 08:06.10 | hmagoo | using google voice (voice)mail for sprint phone should be free 11/8 according to the web, that will be good because I find the sprint voicemail, sucky. |
| 08:06.57 | tmzt | press 1 to leave a message? |
| 08:07.34 | hmagoo | I noticed GV is being politically correct and has the recording sped up quite a bit |
| 08:09.53 | hmagoo | anyone need an invite? |
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| 09:29.41 | oil_wirc | everybody is gone? |
| 09:36.42 | freakout | just came back, oil.... |
| 09:36.49 | lenux3 | is there a separate chat for linux on the pre tried the command for installing irrsi and get the -sh ipkg-opt: not found |
| 09:38.25 | oil_wirc | there is a separate one |
| 09:38.31 | oil_wirc | this one I'm using that is still in the works |
| 09:39.14 | lenux3 | i just need irc on it lol |
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| 09:40.34 | lenux3 | what was you saying oil |
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| 09:42.30 | oil | an app+service |
| 09:43.55 | oil | http://i33.tinypic.com/98vkus.png |
| 09:44.10 | lenux3 | i installed terminal with the intentions of installing irssi but get that error |
| 09:45.12 | lenux3 | where do you get that at ? |
| 09:45.24 | oil | its still in development |
| 09:45.26 | oil | not released yet |
| 09:45.32 | oil | soonish though |
| 09:46.07 | lenux3 | okay cuz i want irc on pre lol im a irc whore anymore |
| 09:46.56 | lenux3 | i use irssi on linux so its familiar just cant get it to install on pre from some reason |
| 09:47.20 | oil | yeah, i dont know anything about that yet |
| 09:56.18 | lenux3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:59.00 | oil | no, i know about it |
| 09:59.02 | oil | im just no help |
| 09:59.05 | oil | i've never used it |
| 09:59.59 | lenux3 | ok lol |
| 10:00.35 | lenux3 | where is virtual keyboard ap at |
| 10:01.00 | oil | its a patch |
| 10:01.08 | lenux3 | ah |
| 10:01.18 | lenux3 | looking in wrong area |
| 10:32.13 | Marajin | Mornin'... |
| 10:32.33 | oil | is it? |
| 10:32.44 | oil | i guess 2:30 am is in fact morning |
| 10:32.47 | oil | xD |
| 10:33.09 | Marajin | huh |
| 10:33.20 | Marajin | wonders what part of the world is still in gmt+8 |
| 10:33.24 | Marajin | er -8 even |
| 10:33.40 | oil | -8 |
| 10:33.45 | oil | eh, washington state |
| 10:33.52 | Marajin | shouldn't that be -7 now? |
| 10:34.07 | Marajin | I mean, I know california is |
| 10:34.12 | oil | idk |
| 10:34.19 | oil | i just ignore daylight savings |
| 10:34.32 | oil | till someone is like "don't forget to turn your clock forward/back" |
| 10:34.34 | Marajin | yeah I think we should abolish timezones, nevermind daylight savings |
| 10:34.53 | oil | once a year im always an hour early or an hour late |
| 10:34.53 | Marajin | everyone should just be on UTC |
| 10:35.06 | Marajin | it wouldn't be that complicated |
| 10:35.20 | Marajin | you'd just set your morning alarm for like 14:00 |
| 10:35.25 | Marajin | instead of 7:00 |
| 10:36.31 | Marajin | but there'd be no more timezone calculation fubars! |
| 10:36.40 | Marajin | 'I'm home at 8' .. it's 8 everywhere in the world! |
| 10:36.41 | Marajin | easy :P |
| 10:37.34 | oil | lol |
| 10:37.41 | oil | i think timezones do make sense |
| 10:37.49 | oil | but daylight savings can gtfo |
| 10:38.31 | Marajin | they kinda do and kinda don't |
| 10:38.38 | Marajin | they make sense if you're not in global communication |
| 10:38.54 | Marajin | otherwise they plain don't hence why stuff like airtraffic control and whatnot are always given in 'zulu time' |
| 10:38.57 | Marajin | i.e. UTC |
| 10:41.08 | oil | right |
| 10:41.12 | oil | they make sense for global stuff |
| 10:41.26 | oil | i mean, not having them does |
| 10:41.30 | oil | but local, timezones are good |
| 10:41.39 | oil | maybe its just because of this 7 day thing |
| 10:41.44 | oil | we should really move to 6 day weeks |
| 10:41.46 | oil | xD |
| 10:41.47 | Marajin | getting increasingly less so though :P |
| 10:42.04 | Marajin | I mean consider it, we are now routinely talking across 7-8 timezones and 6000+ miles |
| 10:42.18 | oil | lol |
| 10:42.53 | Marajin | I mean your /country/ has 4 timezones in it, surely you can appreciate the complications :P |
| 10:44.46 | oil | yeah, but 4 are easy to keep track of |
| 10:45.05 | oil | globally its weird |
| 10:45.28 | oil | at work my boss talks to people in newzealand via videoconference |
| 10:45.31 | oil | trying to set that stuff up |
| 10:45.34 | oil | like |
| 10:45.41 | oil | "ok, its 8am tomorrow there, right?" |
| 10:49.14 | Marajin | heh |
| 10:49.17 | Marajin | yeah exactly |
| 10:49.28 | Marajin | it screws people up and we're in a global society now ;) |
| 10:49.41 | Marajin | Thus! it make more overall sense :p |
| 10:50.39 | oil | but initially it would screw up everyone not in UTC |
| 10:50.52 | oil | like when they tried to go metric here |
| 10:51.02 | oil | instead of selling things rounded to those measurements |
| 10:51.31 | oil | they tried to sell the same container |
| 10:53.18 | oil | it was screwed up |
| 10:55.17 | lingfish | YO! |
| 10:55.23 | oil | aye |
| 10:55.28 | lingfish | I am here. Praise me. |
| 10:57.48 | oil | runs in fear |
| 11:04.55 | lingfish | awww. |
| 11:05.02 | lingfish | I'm a caring god, do not phear m3. |
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| 13:01.18 | einalex | i want to open the usbpass options |
| 13:01.21 | einalex | but cant |
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| 14:31.41 | Puffy_wIRC | morning |
| 14:31.53 | AnOutsider | morning |
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| 14:39.49 | Ramer84015 | Is there a possiblity that the latest updates to Package Manager fixed other issues? My date was off by a month the last few days, today it's fine and my phone changed off of DST as well. What's really strange is for the first time since webOS 1.2.1, my automatic backup worked today as well. |
| 14:47.04 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: ping, u up yet? |
| 14:47.36 | AnOutsider | Ramer: today is the day that the clocks change, so it could be that? |
| 14:47.38 | AnOutsider | oh he left |
| 14:48.53 | PuffTheMagic | yeah 4 min was way to long to wait |
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| 15:11.24 | Stik | gah |
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| 15:27.52 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: you up? |
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| 15:38.00 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: yeah |
| 15:39.03 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: you figure your shit out |
| 15:39.06 | ni| | with the quotes |
| 15:39.28 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: yeah |
| 15:39.30 | ni| | ok |
| 15:39.35 | ni| | what did you end up doing |
| 15:39.48 | PuffTheMagic | there were 2 places we needed to fix shit |
| 15:39.53 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: what is the best way to work with branches? |
| 15:40.11 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: in one place we needed to remove \'s that come before " |
| 15:40.11 | ni| | dBsooner: do work on them |
| 15:40.13 | ni| | and merge |
| 15:40.14 | dBsooner | have two separate clones of the repo? |
| 15:40.16 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: the other place we needed to add \ |
| 15:40.18 | ni| | dBsooner: yes and no |
| 15:40.22 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: no |
| 15:40.37 | ni| | dBsooner: you add code in a branch that is mutually exclusive from the rest categorically speaking |
| 15:40.44 | ni| | so say for an app you have a service branch |
| 15:40.46 | ni| | and a gui |
| 15:40.56 | dBsooner | but how do I know if a file is exclusive to a branch? |
| 15:40.59 | ni| | those are two branches and the master has the main.c and the proprietary stuff |
| 15:41.02 | dBsooner | and not the trunk? |
| 15:41.09 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: this is not svn |
| 15:41.12 | ni| | yea |
| 15:41.12 | PuffTheMagic | there is no truck |
| 15:41.32 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: i gg get laid right now |
| 15:41.45 | dBsooner | is confused. |
| 15:41.46 | ni| | i'll be back in a bit to talk logistics concerning the pre stuff i've been doing |
| 15:42.09 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner why are you confused |
| 15:42.11 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: let's just talk about what i will be specifically dealing with |
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| 15:42.55 | dBsooner | I have a directory, "modifications", which is the clone of modifcations.git |
| 15:43.21 | dBsooner | It has three branches, 1.1.3, 1.2.1, and 1.3.1 |
| 15:43.36 | dBsooner | how do I know if something is commited to 1.3.1 and not 1.2.1? |
| 15:43.46 | dBsooner | or how do I commit something to 1.3.1 and not 1.2.1? |
| 15:44.09 | PuffTheMagic | you can only commit to the branch you have checked out |
| 15:44.20 | dBsooner | right |
| 15:44.28 | dBsooner | git checkout -f <branch> |
| 15:44.32 | PuffTheMagic | no |
| 15:44.35 | dBsooner | -b |
| 15:44.38 | PuffTheMagic | well |
| 15:44.43 | PuffTheMagic | no |
| 15:45.19 | PuffTheMagic | when you say "it has three branches" |
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| 15:45.27 | PuffTheMagic | do you mean the remove repo |
| 15:45.31 | PuffTheMagic | or on your box |
| 15:45.36 | dBsooner | remote |
| 15:46.11 | dBsooner | Rod created separate branches for the different versions |
| 15:46.17 | PuffTheMagic | then in that case you need to get a remove branch on your local box |
| 15:46.23 | PuffTheMagic | so if you dont have a local version |
| 15:46.25 | PuffTheMagic | then you can do |
| 15:46.39 | PuffTheMagic | git checkout -b <somename> origin/<branch> |
| 15:46.50 | PuffTheMagic | if you already had a local version of it |
| 15:46.53 | PuffTheMagic | you just need to check it out |
| 15:46.59 | dBsooner | Ahh.. I gotcha |
| 15:47.03 | PuffTheMagic | git checkout <somename> |
| 15:47.06 | dBsooner | so it WOULD be a separate directory |
| 15:47.11 | PuffTheMagic | no |
| 15:47.14 | PuffTheMagic | its not |
| 15:47.21 | PuffTheMagic | this is NOT svn |
| 15:47.39 | PuffTheMagic | when you checkout something.... it changes everything in your local working git dir |
| 15:47.45 | PuffTheMagic | so if uwere on "master" |
| 15:47.52 | PuffTheMagic | and u checkckout master-1.1.3 |
| 15:48.00 | PuffTheMagic | your working dir is not master-1.1.3 |
| 15:48.04 | dBsooner | what is <somename> relevant to?: |
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| 15:48.30 | PuffTheMagic | its what ever you want to call the local version of a remove branch |
| 15:48.40 | PuffTheMagic | you can name it the same as the remote branch |
| 15:48.52 | dBsooner | I think it just confuses me because all the files are in each branch. |
| 15:49.09 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: why dont you make a new git repo |
| 15:49.14 | PuffTheMagic | and play around with branches and shit |
| 15:49.22 | dBsooner | lol |
| 15:49.25 | dBsooner | or go read a book on git |
| 15:49.39 | PuffTheMagic | thre are none |
| 15:49.59 | dBsooner | no "help files" on the interwebs? |
| 15:50.06 | PuffTheMagic | yes |
| 15:50.08 | PuffTheMagic | just no book |
| 15:50.20 | PuffTheMagic | but u need to play |
| 15:50.21 | PuffTheMagic | not read |
| 15:50.31 | PuffTheMagic | play in a safe place |
| 15:50.33 | PuffTheMagic | that you can mess shit up |
| 15:55.57 | dBsooner | i am just stuck in svn world |
| 16:05.11 | ni| | done! |
| 16:05.25 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: there is an oreilly on git |
| 16:05.39 | PuffTheMagic | that was quick |
| 16:05.52 | ni| | i work fast |
| 16:06.05 | ni| | 20 mins is enough |
| 16:06.13 | ni| | plus now i get waited on |
| 16:06.17 | ni| | while i code |
| 16:07.14 | PuffTheMagic | i cant figure out this bug in the irc library i am using |
| 16:09.37 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: zxy doesn't live in de |
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| 16:15.37 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: wanna help me find a bug |
| 16:18.01 | ni| | sure |
| 16:18.12 | PuffTheMagic | do you have wIRCd cloned? |
| 16:19.58 | ni| | not on my bsd box |
| 16:19.59 | ni| | on my mac |
| 16:20.01 | ni| | url |
| 16:20.19 | ni| | 750 shipped i bet this is going to cost me |
| 16:20.27 | ni| | 42 bucks more than buying one in germany |
| 16:20.35 | PuffTheMagic | from where? |
| 16:20.39 | PuffTheMagic | git://webos-internals.org/tmp/wIRCd.git |
| 16:22.53 | ni| | ok |
| 16:22.57 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: ebay |
| 16:23.12 | ni| | i just have to be careful and get the really german one |
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| 16:23.14 | ni| | not an O2 |
| 16:23.58 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: so what do you want here? |
| 16:24.24 | PuffTheMagic | ok well... in the libircclient/src/libircclient.c file |
| 16:24.26 | ni| | who the fuck wrote most of this |
| 16:24.43 | PuffTheMagic | i wrote the shit in the root of that dir |
| 16:24.47 | PuffTheMagic | not the libirccleint shit |
| 16:24.51 | PuffTheMagic | that i found on the web |
| 16:25.11 | PuffTheMagic | i wronte main.c/client.c/luna_service.c |
| 16:25.18 | ni| | ok |
| 16:25.23 | PuffTheMagic | so anyway |
| 16:25.47 | PuffTheMagic | the irc lib is not sending a callback for NOTICES properly |
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| 16:25.51 | PuffTheMagic | let me be more specific |
| 16:26.05 | PuffTheMagic | you can do "/notice [usernick] message" |
| 16:26.11 | PuffTheMagic | and i will see the callback |
| 16:26.14 | PuffTheMagic | but if u do |
| 16:26.20 | PuffTheMagic | you can do "/notice [#channel] message" |
| 16:26.25 | PuffTheMagic | i get no callback |
| 16:26.34 | PuffTheMagic | but the notice still gets processed and sent to the server |
| 16:26.38 | PuffTheMagic | cause it shows up in the channel |
| 16:26.53 | ni| | hmm |
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| 16:27.55 | dBsooner | Ok PuffTheMagic I figured it out |
| 16:27.57 | ni| | let me take a look at some of this code |
| 16:28.05 | ni| | dBsooner: are you looking at the same problem i am? |
| 16:28.10 | dBsooner | lol |
| 16:28.10 | dBsooner | no |
| 16:28.13 | ni| | that he asked? |
| 16:28.21 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: how many people are looking for this bug? |
| 16:28.21 | dBsooner | I was just figuring out git branches |
| 16:28.22 | dBsooner | ;) |
| 16:28.24 | ni| | oh |
| 16:28.27 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: just me |
| 16:28.28 | PuffTheMagic | and you |
| 16:28.29 | ni| | ok |
| 16:28.29 | dBsooner | I have read nothing in the channel |
| 16:28.38 | ni| | i just don't want to duplicate work |
| 16:28.59 | dBsooner | Yeah, I am staying out of wIRC |
| 16:29.45 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: so there are two options |
| 16:29.57 | ni| | 1) its int he incoming data for events |
| 16:29.58 | ni| | or 2 |
| 16:30.04 | ni| | its in the irc_cmd_notice |
| 16:30.06 | ni| | fn |
| 16:30.16 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: its not generating a call back |
| 16:30.22 | PuffTheMagic | but its still being processed correctly |
| 16:30.29 | PuffTheMagic | cause those notices show up in the channel |
| 16:30.43 | PuffTheMagic | so the "lib" part is getting it |
| 16:30.51 | PuffTheMagic | but the lib isnt relaying it to my service |
| 16:31.21 | ni| | hmm |
| 16:31.21 | ni| | ok |
| 16:31.27 | PuffTheMagic | {"sessionToken":"1.97.2","event":"NOTICE","origin":"wIRC_tester!n=nobody@cpe-76-180-121-199.buffalo.res.rr.com","params":["wIRC_tester","test notice"]} |
| 16:31.35 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: that is what i SHOULD get |
| 16:31.37 | PuffTheMagic | something like that |
| 16:31.38 | ni| | then it has to be in this part of code |
| 16:31.48 | PuffTheMagic | thats what I get when i send a NOTICE to a user |
| 16:31.55 | PuffTheMagic | see the params part |
| 16:32.00 | ni| | http://pastie.org/678955 |
| 16:32.03 | PuffTheMagic | param[0] is the user |
| 16:32.21 | ni| | that pastie (along with the simple function) must be patched |
| 16:32.41 | ni| | thats based on an RFC isn't it? |
| 16:32.46 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 16:32.53 | PuffTheMagic | that part is definately messed up |
| 16:33.33 | PuffTheMagic | the strncasecmp possibly? |
| 16:34.05 | ni| | whoever wrote this was trying to do way too much shit at once |
| 16:34.23 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 16:34.57 | kesne | Good Morning |
| 16:35.21 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: actually |
| 16:35.21 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: RFC 1459 |
| 16:35.31 | PuffTheMagic | i only get notices if they are sent to me directly |
| 16:35.32 | Stik | I am so sick of the *iPhone killer* being attached to every new device that comes out. Don't these peopel realise that they will never outdo the iPhone until they forget the damn thing exists. |
| 16:35.52 | Stik | rant over :D |
| 16:36.00 | PuffTheMagic | hardly a rant |
| 16:36.03 | ni| | Stik: thats not the point of this phone |
| 16:36.08 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: compared to Astorm rants |
| 16:36.12 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: lol |
| 16:36.18 | ni| | you mean the ones where everyone walks away |
| 16:36.26 | PuffTheMagic | the ones that last 2 hours |
| 16:36.31 | Stik | I'm talking in general.. not pointed at any one device... |
| 16:36.39 | PuffTheMagic | Stik: i get what you mean |
| 16:36.44 | PuffTheMagic | every new phone |
| 16:36.52 | PuffTheMagic | people think its gonna be an iphone killer |
| 16:37.06 | ni| | but what is an iphone killer? |
| 16:37.39 | Stik | Something revolutionary that doesn't mimic the iPhone lol |
| 16:37.52 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: why did you post the RFC, the library is sending the event to the server properly.... its just messing up those callbacks |
| 16:38.00 | Stik | like I think it dials :D |
| 16:38.01 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: i know i'm just curious |
| 16:38.02 | PuffTheMagic | the things my service listens to |
| 16:38.11 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: i don't just start randomly changing shit |
| 16:38.27 | PuffTheMagic | but u know what else is messed up |
| 16:38.27 | ni| | there is something simple fucked up so we should understand it completely so we don't introduce other weirder shit |
| 16:38.35 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: ? |
| 16:38.36 | ni| | no |
| 16:38.36 | PuffTheMagic | i wasnt listening to event_channel_notice before |
| 16:38.41 | ni| | LOL |
| 16:38.43 | PuffTheMagic | and when i wasnt listening to them |
| 16:38.52 | PuffTheMagic | i didnt get NOTICE's that were addressed to me |
| 16:38.57 | PuffTheMagic | in the service |
| 16:39.01 | PuffTheMagic | when i added event_channel_notice |
| 16:39.03 | PuffTheMagic | i get them |
| 16:39.11 | PuffTheMagic | but event_channel_notice is supposed to be for all OTHER notices |
| 16:39.30 | PuffTheMagic | so something about that strncasecmp is not right |
| 16:41.37 | ni| | yes we can ignore CTCP for now |
| 16:41.57 | ni| | i want to know what those cases stand for though |
| 16:42.19 | ni| | so explain notices to me |
| 16:42.23 | ni| | you can notify a nick or a channel right |
| 16:42.28 | ni| | and the first else if is for the channel |
| 16:42.34 | ni| | s/channel/nick/g |
| 16:43.07 | ni| | and the else part is for a channel notice |
| 16:43.11 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: see? |
| 16:43.47 | PuffTheMagic | right you can notice a channel or nick |
| 16:44.05 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: but nick notices are getting sent to the channel notice callback |
| 16:44.11 | PuffTheMagic | and nick notices are getting ignored |
| 16:44.14 | PuffTheMagic | err |
| 16:44.24 | PuffTheMagic | all other notices are getting ignored |
| 16:44.33 | ni| | wait so which one is working |
| 16:44.37 | ni| | nick based notices are working? |
| 16:44.50 | PuffTheMagic | yes |
| 16:44.55 | PuffTheMagic | but they are going to the wrong callback |
| 16:44.57 | PuffTheMagic | but i get them at least |
| 16:45.14 | ni| | what callback are they going to? |
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| 16:45.31 | ni| | i'm not convinced that he should be using the third parameter of the cmp |
| 16:45.43 | PuffTheMagic | yeahi just removed that |
| 16:45.46 | PuffTheMagic | and am about to test it |
| 16:46.14 | PuffTheMagic | damn |
| 16:46.18 | PuffTheMagic | get nothing |
| 16:46.27 | PuffTheMagic | tried removing the cmp all together |
| 16:46.39 | dBsooner | your not even getting the {sessionToken:...}? |
| 16:47.01 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: my friends parents are here |
| 16:47.01 | dBsooner | (sorry if I am way behind, I was just looking at the code. |
| 16:47.03 | ni| | i need a few mins |
| 16:47.05 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: wait a sec |
| 16:47.09 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: shouldnt that be == 0 |
| 16:47.10 | PuffTheMagic | not ! |
| 16:47.15 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: k |
| 16:47.37 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: this has nothign to do with sessionToken |
| 16:47.54 | dBsooner | I know, I was jut asking if you were getting that line printed. |
| 16:49.39 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: so its also doing nick notices wrong as well |
| 16:49.55 | PuffTheMagic | this whole chunk is broken |
| 16:50.04 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: this is a svn pulled version |
| 16:50.06 | PuffTheMagic | non release |
| 16:50.06 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: yea i know |
| 16:50.12 | ni| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.20 | PuffTheMagic | cause they last release'd version had broken nonworking query's |
| 16:51.01 | ni| | thats saying if params[0] is NOT lexicographically greater than session->nick |
| 16:51.41 | ni| | LOL this code sucks then |
| 16:51.45 | ni| | w/e we'll fix it |
| 16:51.45 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
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| 16:52.12 | ni| | so we need to know what params[0] is supposed to have in it at this point |
| 16:54.35 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 16:54.48 | PuffTheMagic | the CTCP stuff above it this all is probably the culprit |
| 16:55.20 | dBsooner | was there ever a 1.2.1 SDK? |
| 16:55.34 | PuffTheMagic | thats whats out now isnt it? |
| 16:55.44 | dBsooner | 1.2.1 |
| 16:55.51 | dBsooner | s/.1/.0/ |
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| 16:57.22 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: it dont even enter this part of the code above it "else if ( !strncmp (command, "NOTICE", buf_end - command) )" |
| 16:57.33 | PuffTheMagic | i put in a "puts(THIS IS A NOTICE)" |
| 16:57.39 | PuffTheMagic | and i dont get anything |
| 16:57.46 | PuffTheMagic | on channel notices |
| 16:58.06 | ni| | yea i'm looking at that |
| 16:58.42 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: can you print out params[0] please |
| 16:58.47 | ni| | in your env |
| 16:58.59 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 16:59.26 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: also just print everything |
| 16:59.30 | ni| | including the strlen |
| 16:59.50 | ni| | then we can ensure the sanity of the else if clause and then just block comment the ctcp to see if thats it |
| 17:00.42 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: that part of the code never gets reached though |
| 17:00.57 | PuffTheMagic | i have to print params[0] at the begging |
| 17:01.00 | PuffTheMagic | way abeginning |
| 17:02.33 | ni| | then comment the ctcp code |
| 17:02.56 | ni| | we should fork this and start maintaining our own |
| 17:03.02 | ni| | this is rediculous some of it |
| 17:03.08 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 17:03.11 | PuffTheMagic | we could |
| 17:03.14 | ni| | hes like trying to code java in c |
| 17:03.23 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: ok so.... |
| 17:03.28 | ni| | ? |
| 17:03.32 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: i put a |
| 17:03.41 | PuffTheMagic | printf("params[0]=%s\n",params[0]); |
| 17:03.43 | PuffTheMagic | above the |
| 17:03.48 | PuffTheMagic | if ( code ) |
| 17:03.54 | PuffTheMagic | way at the beginning |
| 17:04.02 | PuffTheMagic | and wheni send a channel notice |
| 17:04.04 | ni| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.05 | ni| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.07 | ni| | that line? |
| 17:04.07 | PuffTheMagic | that does not even print anything |
| 17:04.10 | PuffTheMagic | yeah that one |
| 17:04.18 | PuffTheMagic | and i got nothing |
| 17:04.43 | PuffTheMagic | for just about every other command i get params[0]=wirc_tester |
| 17:04.45 | PuffTheMagic | or |
| 17:04.46 | ni| | why would you put it there it _is_ nothing |
| 17:04.50 | PuffTheMagic | params[0]=#wirc |
| 17:04.54 | PuffTheMagic | when i joined that channel |
| 17:05.03 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: there should be something |
| 17:05.16 | ni| | hmm ok |
| 17:05.21 | PuffTheMagic | i got output from it |
| 17:05.23 | PuffTheMagic | lots of output |
| 17:05.32 | ni| | so param[0] on a notice should be a {nick, channel} |
| 17:05.33 | PuffTheMagic | just nothing from /notice #wirc test |
| 17:05.48 | ni| | and params[1] should be msg |
| 17:05.52 | PuffTheMagic | let me print param 1 too |
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| 17:06.49 | ni| | its going to be nothing for a join |
| 17:07.22 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: send me a notice |
| 17:07.23 | PuffTheMagic | i mean |
| 17:07.26 | PuffTheMagic | wIRC_tester |
| 17:07.54 | ni| | ? |
| 17:08.22 | PuffTheMagic | do /notice wIRC_tester test |
| 17:08.37 | tlp | !!!! |
| 17:08.40 | PuffTheMagic | params[0]=wIRC_tester params[1]=test |
| 17:08.44 | PuffTheMagic | i got that |
| 17:08.55 | tlp | buys Puff some magic. :p |
| 17:09.06 | ni| | ok that makes sense |
| 17:09.12 | ni| | because params[1] is the msg like i said |
| 17:09.18 | PuffTheMagic | right |
| 17:09.29 | ni| | so that looks right |
| 17:09.42 | PuffTheMagic | ^^ i dont get that though |
| 17:09.53 | ni| | on the phone? |
| 17:09.59 | ni| | its not showing up because of the callback |
| 17:10.00 | ni| | right |
| 17:10.00 | roxfan | can you do testing in some other channel? |
| 17:10.06 | PuffTheMagic | roxfan: right |
| 17:10.17 | ni| | roxfan: ? |
| 17:10.18 | PuffTheMagic | roxfan: i havent heard you talk about anything in here |
| 17:10.28 | PuffTheMagic | only other one talking is dBsooner |
| 17:10.43 | ni| | roxfan: we are doing something here and having a conversation? he did one test msg notice to the channel |
| 17:10.45 | roxfan | that doesn't mean you should send channel notices |
| 17:11.00 | PuffTheMagic | i didnt know they bothered you |
| 17:11.13 | PuffTheMagic | someone irc client must make noises when that happens ;) |
| 17:11.32 | ni| | mine is quiet :) |
| 17:11.48 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: lets do the thing in wirc or sth |
| 17:11.57 | PuffTheMagic | yeah dont want any hissyfits over this |
| 17:17.34 | egaudet | morning |
| 17:19.22 | Decimate | :O whats all this wirc talk |
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| 17:50.00 | einalex | hm does someone know what's wrong with the avahi howto? |
| 17:50.27 | einalex | avahi is running on my pre but the phone itself can't even resolve it's own hostname.local |
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| 18:01.29 | tmzt | einalex: with nss lib in /etc/nsswitch? |
| 18:02.02 | pullingj | hey everybody, my preware has been hanging at "checking package manager version" for the past couple days. |
| 18:02.11 | einalex | tmzt: i didn't get that |
| 18:02.24 | en0x | lol youtube = fail |
| 18:02.25 | en0x | ;] |
| 18:03.34 | tmzt | did you add anything to /etc/nsswitch.conf? |
| 18:03.43 | einalex | tmzt: no http://pastebin.com/d483f1163 |
| 18:03.49 | einalex | this is how it looks like |
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| 18:10.07 | einalex | but i can't ping it from outside either.. |
| 18:22.08 | einalex | another thing: can someone tell me how to use hashcodes on the gsm pre |
| 18:22.19 | einalex | since ##number# doesn't work |
| 18:22.26 | einalex | and ##number dial doesn#t work either |
| 18:23.56 | einalex | is there perhaps some |
| 18:24.06 | einalex | other way to launch the dialog? |
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| 18:25.40 | dBsooner | How do you edit the wiki Main_Page? |
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| 18:33.53 | pullingj | ok, preware loaded after rebooting my phone, but now ipkg -o /var update gives me a 404 error when it hits preware.conf |
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| 18:34.50 | kesne_hero | woo |
| 18:34.58 | kesne_hero | it works |
| 18:35.03 | pullingj | preware.conf contains src/gz all http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/preware/all and the same for armv7 |
| 18:36.24 | dBsooner | delete preware.conf |
| 18:36.35 | kesne_hero | wIRC looks better than this one, heh |
| 18:36.46 | dBsooner | you have a Hero? |
| 18:36.47 | pullingj | is preware.conf deprecated now, then? |
| 18:36.54 | dBsooner | pullingj: yes |
| 18:37.06 | pullingj | ok, thanks |
| 18:37.15 | dBsooner | it should be in webos-internals |
| 18:37.22 | pullingj | what are the "default" feeds, then? |
| 18:37.41 | dBsooner | example: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/all/org.webosinternals.preware_0.9.5_all.ipk |
| 18:37.55 | dBsooner | umm |
| 18:38.28 | dBsooner | canuck-software, optware, pimpmypre, precentral, webos-internals, webos-patches |
| 18:38.37 | dBsooner | maybe a precentral-themes |
| 18:39.14 | dBsooner | autopatch.conf should be gone |
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| 18:39.35 | kesne_ | this app sucks |
| 18:39.44 | dBsooner | ? |
| 18:39.44 | bpadalino|work | good review |
| 18:39.53 | dBsooner | how many damn phones you got? |
| 18:40.01 | dBsooner | or are you on wifi now? |
| 18:40.02 | kesne_ | /msg kesne test |
| 18:40.19 | kesne_ | I have a lot of phones |
| 18:40.35 | pullingj | ok, i have something called arch.conf and also all of those and prethemer and preyourmind |
| 18:40.45 | pullingj | oh and something called arch.conf which doesn't look like a feed |
| 18:40.48 | kesne_ | I'm starting to develop for Android |
| 18:41.07 | dBsooner | hmm |
| 18:41.11 | dBsooner | let me look |
| 18:41.23 | kesne_ | and iPhone eventually |
| 18:41.46 | einalex | ah all you guys! any idea on how to do the hash-code thingy on a gsm pre? |
| 18:41.59 | dBsooner | arch.conf is fine |
| 18:41.59 | einalex | ##somenumber# |
| 18:42.09 | pullingj | i missed a month of development when i was out to see in september, and I'm just trying to clean up from catching up |
| 18:42.10 | dBsooner | prethemer and preyourmind are find |
| 18:42.13 | pullingj | ok |
| 18:42.14 | dBsooner | s/fine/find/ |
| 18:42.40 | kesne_ | I hate the landscape keyboard |
| 18:42.41 | pullingj | dumping preware.conf and all should be good. and i'm being blind, but can't you access a list of feeds inside preware? |
| 18:43.01 | kesne_ | though I love the sounds and vibrate |
| 18:43.18 | dBsooner | pullingj: yes |
| 18:43.42 | pullingj | where in the ui is it then? |
| 18:43.47 | dBsooner | kesne: Kieth swears by his Hero |
| 18:44.06 | dBsooner | pullingj: yes.. its in the drop down menu |
| 18:44.10 | dBsooner | then drop down menu again |
| 18:44.12 | kesne_ | Keith loves his hero |
| 18:44.17 | kesne_ | and with reason |
| 18:44.21 | dBsooner | but just pull up terminal |
| 18:44.29 | dBsooner | and rm /var/etc/ipkg/preware.conf |
| 18:44.31 | einalex | *sigh* |
| 18:44.45 | dBsooner | But we try to refrain from droid talk in here. |
| 18:44.48 | einalex | no idea? |
| 18:44.50 | pullingj | oh, there, i saw the "feeds" button now, thanks |
| 18:44.51 | bpadalino|work | einalex, the numbers don't work with a gsm pre ? |
| 18:45.00 | einalex | bpadalino|work: right |
| 18:45.03 | dBsooner | einalex: hash code thingy? |
| 18:45.15 | bpadalino|work | check out the phone app ..they are listed there in the clear .. |
| 18:45.19 | bpadalino|work | maybe you have different hashes |
| 18:45.29 | einalex | hash codes : http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Pre_Specific_Hash_Codes |
| 18:46.02 | einalex | bpadalino|work: what was that path again? |
| 18:46.06 | einalex | to the apps |
| 18:46.14 | bpadalino|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.39 | pullingj | dBsooner: yeah, i dumped it from terminal. the feeds ui was something i was trying to find seperately |
| 18:46.43 | pullingj | thanks for the help |
| 18:46.43 | einalex | right |
| 18:46.57 | dBsooner | pullingj: ok... cool. No problem. |
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| 18:51.16 | einalex | hm could i do this: "TelephonyCommands.launchExternalProgram('usbpassthrough');" from the commandline somehow? |
| 18:51.59 | bpadalino|work | einalex, is there no hash code to do that from the phone dialer ? |
| 18:52.01 | bpadalino|work | really ? |
| 18:52.41 | einalex | i found the function that launches the programm but still no hashcode.. |
| 18:52.58 | einalex | have to dig deeper but if i can do it directly, why bother with the hash codes |
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| 18:53.39 | bpadalino|work | well, you found a problem that the CDMA and GSM hash codes don't mirror each other .. it would be helpful to know what the GSM hash codes really are |
| 18:53.49 | bpadalino|work | so i'd urge you to figure out the hash codes and share it with everyone |
| 18:54.42 | einalex | i'm on that right now. but knowing how to launch the respective apps manually could be interesting as well |
| 18:58.16 | bpadalino|work | you'll need to see where launchExternalProgram ends up going, and see if it just passes that to the service in the background .. |
| 18:58.29 | bpadalino|work | the Telephony Service is in Java and you can use a java decompiler to see what it does |
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| 19:02.37 | PuffTheMagic | preyourmind.org/files/us.ryanhope.wircd_0.0.1_armv7.ipk |
| 19:02.43 | PuffTheMagic | ^^^ for testers |
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| 19:05.19 | einalex | got it |
| 19:05.30 | einalex | its #*number# dial |
| 19:05.35 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: can I just 'git pull && make' |
| 19:05.55 | einalex | can someone put this on the wiki, i don't have an account there |
| 19:06.01 | bpadalino|work | oh you actually have to dial the number on the GSM phone ? |
| 19:06.04 | dBsooner | einalex: so make one. ;) |
| 19:06.07 | bpadalino|work | not just type it in ? |
| 19:06.09 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: that has the event.d and proper postinst/prerm |
| 19:06.14 | einalex | bpadalino|work: no |
| 19:06.27 | einalex | you have to hit dial |
| 19:06.29 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: oh.. so it will actually run as a service |
| 19:06.33 | PuffTheMagic | yeah |
| 19:06.35 | einalex | just tried it once more |
| 19:06.50 | bpadalino|work | interesting |
| 19:06.55 | einalex | and it obviously doesn't work with all the cdma codes.. |
| 19:07.05 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: so wget then run postinst? |
| 19:07.10 | einalex | thank you! :) |
| 19:07.18 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: wget/install then postinst |
| 19:07.19 | einalex | let's see if i can increase that gps accuracy |
| 19:07.27 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: or that |
| 19:10.00 | en0x | PuffTheMagic: is that only the service? |
| 19:10.15 | PuffTheMagic | yeah since most people have issues running it manually ;) |
| 19:10.26 | PuffTheMagic | gui is in a repo that u can clone and install from easily |
| 19:10.42 | en0x | kk |
| 19:11.33 | egaudet | running C service manually = easier than ipk install |
| 19:12.09 | egaudet | oil, you awake |
| 19:12.13 | PuffTheMagic | egaudet: yeah you would think ;) |
| 19:12.18 | dBsooner | egaudet: I agree. |
| 19:12.24 | dBsooner | I have left mine manual |
| 19:12.32 | dBsooner | so i can git pull && make |
| 19:12.59 | egaudet | If PuffTheMagic would give me his emu chroot! |
| 19:13.12 | dBsooner | oh yeah |
| 19:13.52 | dBsooner | egaudet: I am seriously debating implementing our rename procedure.. |
| 19:14.01 | egaudet | huh? |
| 19:14.15 | egaudet | dummy package thing? |
| 19:14.17 | dBsooner | yes |
| 19:14.34 | lenux3 | anyword on flash for pre |
| 19:14.36 | dBsooner | but I want to know if oil is planning on transitioning to 2 lined titles first |
| 19:15.02 | egaudet | my idea was to create like an obsolete/ directory that you could just git mv obs. package to in the build.git/autopatch and the Makefile would just auto bump version, make only postinst with return 1 and build |
| 19:15.09 | egaudet | so it would be easy to automatically obsolete a package |
| 19:18.20 | dBsooner | not a bad idea at all |
| 19:18.50 | dBsooner | so would postinst return 1 make it uninstall? |
| 19:19.08 | dBsooner | wait, it woulnd't be installed already if they were "installing" |
| 19:19.08 | dBsooner | nm |
| 19:22.47 | dBsooner | egaudet: did they ever release a 1.2.1 sdk? ALl I see on the developer.palm.com page is 1.2.0 |
| 19:24.12 | egaudet | um I don't know |
| 19:24.28 | egaudet | I don't think so |
| 19:27.12 | dBsooner | how would I make the postinst return 1? just have the build/CONTROL/posinst 'echo return 1 >> postinst'? |
| 19:27.39 | egaudet | touch postinst |
| 19:27.45 | egaudet | echo "#!/bin/sh" >> postinst |
| 19:27.48 | egaudet | then yea |
| 19:28.01 | dBsooner | ok |
| 19:31.43 | dBsooner | egaudet: build.git/autopatch is seperated into <category>-<name> folders |
| 19:31.57 | dBsooner | how can I have more than one package in an build.git/autopatch/obsolete? |
| 19:35.45 | egaudet | dBsooner, it's all Makefiles |
| 19:35.59 | egaudet | the process currently is just to make -C <dir> for each dir in autopatch/ |
| 19:36.20 | egaudet | so in obsolete/ if you had a Makefile that made packages for all subdirs in there or something would be one way |
| 19:37.49 | oil | $ git pull - Already up-to-date. |
| 19:37.52 | oil | wha? |
| 19:39.52 | dBsooner | oil no one worked |
| 19:39.53 | dBsooner | ;) |
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| 19:46.22 | dBsooner | I guess someone gots them a IRCop account |
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| 19:46.22 | dBsooner | ;) |
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| 19:46.23 | dBsooner | someone abusin their IRCop account at that |
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| 19:46.27 | dBsooner | you all got slow hosts |
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| 19:46.28 | egaudet_ | what is going on here? |
| 19:46.43 | oil | magics |
| 19:46.44 | dBsooner | Someone hacked an IRCop account looks like |
| 19:46.44 | dBsooner | and then banned everyone from that server |
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| 19:47.18 | djk | Did freenode just have a hic cup? |
| 19:47.36 | corq-FL | i just got a weird msg from freenode, myself |
| 19:47.57 | djk | ok |
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| 20:28.19 | dBsooner | egaudet: Can you help me with this Makefile thing real quick? |
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| 20:29.13 | egaudet | yea where you at |
| 20:29.15 | dBsooner | is all i need in the osbolete/Makefile: |
| 20:29.26 | dBsooner | i'll pm it |
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| 20:33.35 | nil_mobile | hi |
| 20:34.10 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 20:36.36 | dBsooner | oil ping |
| 20:38.58 | dBsooner | oil: WAKE UP |
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| 20:40.10 | dBsooner | wb rwhitby .. Freenode decided to mass kill everyone. :D |
| 20:40.32 | dBsooner | Or should I say, a rogue service bot did. |
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| 20:45.08 | sugardave | blames oil. |
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| 20:51.31 | kesne | hmm |
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| 20:51.54 | kesne | heh: /crown -R us ./base |
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| 20:56.13 | dBsooner | hey wIRC devs.. |
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| 20:56.19 | oil | ? |
| 20:56.24 | dBsooner | did those Global notices make it into wIRC? |
| 20:56.32 | oil | eh? |
| 20:56.33 | dBsooner | It was a good chance for a test. |
| 20:56.34 | dBsooner | ;) |
| 20:56.40 | dBsooner | -Notice- {from christel} [Global Notice] Hi all, We have now worked out the cause of the recent killings, and for those interested, information can be found at http://announce.freenode.net -- We apologise for the balls-up and the inconvenience caused. Thank you for using freenode and have a nice evening. |
| 20:56.54 | oil | yeah, i got it |
| 20:56.57 | dBsooner | cool |
| 20:57.02 | dBsooner | anyway, oil you got a sec? |
| 20:57.06 | dBsooner | I'll pay you.. |
| 20:57.11 | oil | im about to start eating |
| 20:57.17 | dBsooner | after that |
| 20:58.03 | dBsooner | I was just wondering if you would "really consider" making title 2 lines in Preware. |
| 20:58.31 | dBsooner | Translate "really consider" as "really do it" |
| 21:00.32 | PuffTheMagic | oil: eat faster |
| 21:00.53 | PuffTheMagic | dBsooner: you have push access to preware i beleive |
| 21:01.08 | oil | which doesn't mean go making unapproved changes |
| 21:01.18 | dBsooner | which doesn't mean I am going to abuse it PuffTheMagic |
| 21:01.28 | dBsooner | I was given strict instructions to only mess with autopatch |
| 21:01.33 | PuffTheMagic | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 21:01.48 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: If I was to abuse it, I would ahve done it already. |
| 21:01.58 | dBsooner | "Its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission" |
| 21:02.08 | PuffTheMagic | i dont see how you contributing is an abuse |
| 21:02.26 | dBsooner | oil: The reason I ask for 2 lines is I am getting a lot of AM pm's saying they don't understand why patches don't have better titles |
| 21:02.32 | dBsooner | I try to explain the limited space |
| 21:02.43 | dBsooner | the #1 request is to be <category>: <name> |
| 21:02.47 | dBsooner | Which I would like to do |
| 21:02.54 | dBsooner | but it would require more room in the title field in Preware. |
| 21:03.17 | dBsooner | As you have said in the past, App Cat does it and it looks good. I would like to try it in Preware too. |
| 21:04.43 | dBsooner | It seems a lot of people don't pay attention to the ICON.. And they don't browse by category, rather "Show All" |
| 21:05.24 | nil_mobile | hi |
| 21:08.38 | oil | even if i make it 2 lines |
| 21:08.45 | oil | i still dont think you should do category: name |
| 21:09.58 | Abyssul | I cant wait for the irc app :D |
| 21:11.15 | einalex | hm |
| 21:11.19 | PuffTheMagic | Abyssul: u can use it already |
| 21:11.26 | PuffTheMagic | just dont bug us with bugs |
| 21:11.46 | dBsooner | oil: Well two lines would give me more room at least |
| 21:11.53 | einalex | i can't get my windows to ask for the diagnostic usb driver... |
| 21:11.57 | einalex | ideas? |
| 21:12.11 | dBsooner | einalex: 90% of the people in here don't use windows |
| 21:12.21 | dBsooner | ^^ opinion |
| 21:12.23 | Abyssul | Its not packaged into an app though, so ima wait until it is. (unless im missing it) |
| 21:12.28 | einalex | dBsooner: i don't do it either |
| 21:12.30 | dBsooner | Abyssul: it is now |
| 21:12.34 | einalex | had to borrow dads pc |
| 21:12.37 | dBsooner | PuffTheMagic: link him |
| 21:12.38 | Abyssul | Had to ask :) |
| 21:13.00 | rwhitby | dBsooner: I'd bet that >70% of the people in here *do* use windows |
| 21:13.00 | einalex | I try to do the gps accuracy hack: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-tips-information-resources/206982-palm-pre-gps-additional-gps-modes-autonomous-assisted-cached.html |
| 21:13.14 | Abyssul | <-- Win7 |
| 21:13.23 | dBsooner | <-- Ubuntu Karmic & Win 7 |
| 21:13.29 | einalex | now that I found out how to access the usbpass dialog on a gsm pre |
| 21:13.38 | dBsooner | rwhitby: as the primary os? |
| 21:13.40 | einalex | and switched a usb port to diag mode |
| 21:13.43 | dBsooner | rwhitby: OH! G'morning sir! |
| 21:13.49 | rwhitby | dBsooner: yep, I'd expect so. |
| 21:14.07 | dBsooner | rwhitby: hmm.. ok.. of those that are active more than 4 hours a day in here.. |
| 21:14.13 | rwhitby | dBsooner: (note that I'm not suggesting anyone do that, but I expect that would be the percentage in a group of 124 people) |
| 21:14.17 | einalex | i still can't get the pre to talk to the qpst tool because i can't install the diagnostic driver that's needed to communicate.. |
| 21:14.33 | PuffTheMagic | http://preyourmind.org/files/us.ryanhope.wircd_0.0.1_armv7.ipk |
| 21:14.36 | rwhitby | einalex: did you use mpt ? |
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| 21:14.40 | dBsooner | Abyssul: ^^ link |
| 21:14.45 | PuffTheMagic | http://preyourmind.org/files/ws.junk.wirc_0.0.1_all.ipk |
| 21:14.54 | einalex | rwhitby: i tried both methods. mpt d0 as well as the gui |
| 21:15.01 | dBsooner | Abyssul: ^^ link for gui |
| 21:15.11 | dBsooner | remember to run the postinst of both |
| 21:15.30 | rwhitby | einalex: it worked fine in a windows XP guest running in VirtualBox on a MacOSX host ... |
| 21:15.50 | einalex | i have it running on a windows xp here |
| 21:16.15 | einalex | got my dads laptop to do it... |
| 21:16.15 | dBsooner | rwhitby: What do you think of my proposal/question to oil about the two line titles and/or <Category>: <Name> for patches. |
| 21:16.36 | einalex | i think there might be more differences between the gsm and the cdma pre.. |
| 21:17.41 | rwhitby | einalex: my GSM pre should arrive this week or next, so I'll be able to verify that. |
| 21:18.03 | rwhitby | dBsooner: perhaps the All list can automatically display the category ... |
| 21:18.17 | dBsooner | rwhitby: that was my idea to Eric. |
| 21:18.23 | dBsooner | He said, "no, never, ever, ever, never" |
| 21:18.37 | dBsooner | ^^ plagarized quote |
| 21:18.49 | egaudet | The ALL list can display the category, but not changing the title |
| 21:19.04 | dBsooner | egaudet: I never said change the title |
| 21:19.04 | rwhitby | egaudet: yep, that's what I was proposing |
| 21:19.16 | dBsooner | egaudet: I said to display <Category>: <Name> |
| 21:19.26 | dBsooner | and in the Category view it would just be <Name> |
| 21:19.30 | dBsooner | is exactly what i said. :D |
| 21:19.30 | egaudet | i.e. it can't display <category>: <title> in one view and then <title> in another view |
| 21:19.46 | dBsooner | why not? |
| 21:19.48 | egaudet | and by can't I mean I don't think it should |
| 21:19.53 | egaudet | because users get confused EASILY |
| 21:20.05 | dBsooner | well.. |
| 21:20.14 | egaudet | if you change "Use this patch" to "Use This patch", users will be like "so is there anything different between the two |
| 21:20.16 | dBsooner | Calculator: Enable Vibration |
| 21:20.21 | dBsooner | vs Enable Vibration |
| 21:20.43 | einalex | rwhitby: any idea what could be the cause? you sure know a great bit more about it than me |
| 21:20.44 | dBsooner | I think the first is better. |
| 21:21.02 | rwhitby | einalex: actually, I know very little about it. |
| 21:21.17 | rwhitby | einalex: it jut happened to work for me ;-) |
| 21:22.17 | einalex | ok thanks anyway. keep me posted pls |
| 21:23.16 | dBsooner | egaudet, rwhitby, oil: I think having it on the same line would be better than making the "Show All" list be incredibly long with 4+ lines per package |
| 21:23.31 | Abyssul | i dont even use the categories lol |
| 21:23.35 | Abyssul | I just go to Show ALl |
| 21:23.41 | dBsooner | See, I think MOST people do that. |
| 21:23.48 | dBsooner | At least most of the feedback I am getting is because of that. |
| 21:24.13 | Abyssul | I fail to see a problem with the current way its set up |
| 21:24.15 | rwhitby | I use "ipkg -o /var list | grep ..." |
| 21:24.32 | egaudet | If you are listing all, it's not our job to try and organize things. You offer organization by alphabetical, date etc... |
| 21:24.51 | egaudet | there's a reason for categorization etc... |
| 21:24.59 | dBsooner | egaudet: But I can see the AM concern of it not being super organized |
| 21:25.06 | dBsooner | with 3 "Enable vibration" packages |
| 21:25.12 | egaudet | AM A and AM B want different things |
| 21:25.15 | egaudet | you can't please the world |
| 21:25.23 | Abyssul | wtf is AM |
| 21:25.26 | dBsooner | Aunt Minnie |
| 21:25.46 | rwhitby | Hmm: "ipkg -o /var list" doesn't show categories ... |
| 21:25.51 | dBsooner | Well I like the way it is myself, but would want 2 lines at least. |
| 21:26.02 | dBsooner | HOWEVER, I can see the AM argument and don't think its "that bad" of an idea. |
| 21:26.18 | dBsooner | rwhitby: sure it does |
| 21:26.35 | dBsooner | <category>-<name>_<Version>_all.ipkg |
| 21:27.07 | rwhitby | dBsooner: ah, you're right - it's in the pakage id. |
| 21:27.13 | dBsooner | xD |
| 21:27.16 | dBsooner | WE did that on purpose |
| 21:27.48 | rwhitby | egaudet: a thought about patches and themes - 'unionfs' |
| 21:28.05 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 21:28.11 | dBsooner | rwhitby: I have one more request from you |
| 21:28.13 | dBsooner | when you get time. |
| 21:28.59 | egaudet | going to google unionfs |
| 21:29.04 | dBsooner | me too |
| 21:29.05 | dBsooner | lol |
| 21:29.32 | dBsooner | rwhitby: when you get time, I want to know if you can look into making a buildscript for/with me. |
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| 21:34.56 | dBsooner | likes the idea of unionfs |
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| 21:40.16 | einalex | huh |
| 21:40.27 | einalex | the avahi is still not working... |
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| 21:47.57 | einalex | woohooo working! :) |
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| 22:01.12 | lenux3 | is the wirc working in wifi only or in evdo too |
| 22:01.20 | dBsooner | both |
| 22:01.36 | dBsooner | you can't connect via one then switch to the other though |
| 22:01.38 | dBsooner | I found that out |
| 22:01.50 | oil | lol |
| 22:01.57 | dBsooner | which is kinda obvious really |
| 22:02.01 | oil | it will need some sort of auto-reconnect-on-fail |
| 22:02.08 | dBsooner | yeah, that's what it needs |
| 22:02.16 | oil | its not bad for sitting somewhere not moving though |
| 22:02.16 | dBsooner | oil, so how about that 2 lines? :D |
| 22:02.22 | einalex | huh, is there somelinke lspci for the pre? |
| 22:02.25 | dBsooner | oil, love it.. absolutely love it. |
| 22:02.26 | oil | as i bet switching towers would cause problems, too |
| 22:02.30 | einalex | where i could look at the hardware... |
| 22:02.37 | einalex | like the gps chipset.. |
| 22:02.38 | dBsooner | oil: Maybe not.. because you keep the same ip |
| 22:02.56 | dBsooner | oil: your data sessions stays constant |
| 22:03.06 | *** join/#webos-internals Abyssul_wIRC (n=nobody@cpe-075-176-175-108.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:03.11 | oil | huh |
| 22:03.15 | dBsooner | like my aircard.. when I am driving around town, I keep my Putty windows open the whole time |
| 22:03.18 | dBsooner | and it never dc's |
| 22:03.24 | dBsooner | same with my RDP connection |
| 22:03.26 | oil | thats good |
| 22:03.34 | dBsooner | its the same as a cell call |
| 22:03.41 | lenux3 | is it ok if i dl the ipk above and play with it ? |
| 22:03.42 | dBsooner | the tower is just a relay to the PTSN |
| 22:03.49 | dBsooner | all the magic happens at the local switching |
| 22:04.21 | Abyssul_wIRC | Success! :) |
| 22:04.39 | dBsooner | Dang windows XP and ASUS mother boardx!! I hate having to find all these drivers.. |
| 22:05.38 | Abyssul_wIRC | Why are the names pink and purple lol |
| 22:05.54 | dBsooner | that's oil's way of coming out of the closet. |
| 22:06.07 | Abyssul_wIRC | Haha |
| 22:06.08 | tlp | Abyssul_wIRC: are you just playing with the service, or does wIRC sort of work now? |
| 22:06.16 | lingfish | mornin all :) |
| 22:06.35 | Abyssul_wIRC | This is the gui and service |
| 22:06.45 | oil | the nick colors are random |
| 22:06.55 | dBsooner | oil: don't lie! |
| 22:07.03 | Abyssul_wIRC | Works pretty well although there are some things that need fixed :p |
| 22:07.05 | tlp | neat |
| 22:07.07 | oil | ircNick.prototype.getRandomColor |
| 22:07.12 | tlp | how do you install it? |
| 22:07.15 | tlp | git? |
| 22:07.16 | oil | return '#'+('00000'+(Math.random()*0xFFFFFF+1<<0).toString(16)).substr(-6); |
| 22:07.17 | dBsooner | Abyssul: say NOTHING about what needs to be fixed. |
| 22:07.25 | Abyssul_wIRC | I know |
| 22:07.38 | oil | Abyssul_wIRC is on latest release? |
| 22:07.44 | oil | that means /queries to him default open new card |
| 22:07.45 | oil | lol |
| 22:07.52 | dBsooner | oil: he is on the release that PuffTheMagic last packaged up |
| 22:07.56 | dBsooner | oil: so I don't know |
| 22:07.58 | Abyssul_wIRC | Whatever puff gave me |
| 22:08.02 | dBsooner | I LOVE the release you put out last night |
| 22:08.08 | dBsooner | I "git pull" on my Pre. |
| 22:08.08 | dBsooner | :D |
| 22:08.19 | tlp | oil: you guys going to put somethign in Preware soon? |
| 22:08.33 | dBsooner | tlp: Probably not.. It still has a lot of work. |
| 22:08.36 | PuffTheMagic | tlp: prob not "soon" |
| 22:08.39 | tlp | ah |
| 22:08.46 | oil | "eventually" |
| 22:08.57 | tlp | maybe I should go pull it down from PreYourMind |
| 22:08.59 | dBsooner | I would say "sooner than later" |
| 22:09.08 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: yo |
| 22:09.09 | Abyssul | So Im not allowed to make a single suggestion? |
| 22:09.11 | oil | that code is old sauce |
| 22:09.15 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: im about to eat dinner |
| 22:09.17 | tlp | where's the new spicy sauce? |
| 22:09.17 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: ok |
| 22:09.22 | oil | its on webos-internals repo |
| 22:09.25 | oil | not visible |
| 22:09.29 | oil | tmp/wirc.git |
| 22:09.29 | tlp | ah |
| 22:10.44 | oil | Abyssul: you can add your thoughts to the wiki page |
| 22:10.49 | PuffTheMagic | oil: reaname works :D |
| 22:10.50 | oil | so we can ignore them till we feel like dealing with them |
| 22:10.55 | Abyssul | nvm, my concern is already there :) |
| 22:11.04 | oil | PuffTheMagic thats good |
| 22:11.17 | *** part/#webos-internals Abyssul_wIRC (n=nobody@cpe-075-176-175-108.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:11.33 | oil | oh, now i gotta do merge crap ;( |
| 22:11.37 | PuffTheMagic | lol |
| 22:11.49 | PuffTheMagic | oil: just pull before push |
| 22:11.52 | PuffTheMagic | it should work fine |
| 22:11.59 | PuffTheMagic | i doubt i touched the areas u were working on |
| 22:12.04 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: this dev env is great |
| 22:12.06 | oil | server.js |
| 22:12.30 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: the SDK you mean? |
| 22:12.59 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: you probably dont use eclipse but plam has a pretty nice plugin for it |
| 22:13.10 | PuffTheMagic | ni|: and Templarian made a plugin for Komodo edit |
| 22:13.16 | PuffTheMagic | if u are into that |
| 22:13.21 | PuffTheMagic | goes to eat dinner |
| 22:17.02 | entity- | what the newest wirc version?> |
| 22:17.11 | oil | 0.0.1 |
| 22:19.37 | tlp | oil: so non-visible meaning I can't get to it unless I have access or something? |
| 22:19.47 | oil | meaning, there is no gitweb |
| 22:20.54 | tlp | ah |
| 22:26.24 | dBsooner | oil, you never responded to my 2 line questions.. I would like to start working on these titles if you are willing to do the 2 line thing. |
| 22:26.59 | oil | sure, lets see what ya got |
| 22:27.00 | oil | brb |
| 22:27.12 | dBsooner | ? |
| 22:28.44 | *** join/#webos-internals doodums (n=thadood@c-75-66-216-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 22:35.29 | egaudet | rename what? |
| 22:37.42 | dBsooner | huh? |
| 22:38.10 | *** join/#webos-internals GreedyB (n=blah@c-76-104-101-233.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:39.25 | egaudet | <PuffTheMagic> oil: reaname works :D |
| 22:39.40 | dBsooner | oh |
| 22:41.34 | *** join/#webos-internals doodums (n=thadood@c-75-66-216-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 22:43.29 | *** join/#webos-internals Puffy_wIRC (n=nobody@cpe-76-180-121-199.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 22:45.54 | Puffy_wIRC | when a problem comes along |
| 22:45.56 | *** join/#webos-internals lizardo (n=lizardo@c-69-181-201-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:46.58 | egaudet | hey Puffy_wIRC |
| 22:47.21 | Puffy_wIRC | you are piss green |
| 22:47.29 | egaudet | lol |
| 22:47.48 | egaudet | we gotta set some standards on those random colors :P |
| 22:47.57 | Puffy_wIRC | we gotta make blacklist |
| 22:47.59 | egaudet | now let's decide a good combination for tab completion |
| 22:48.08 | egaudet | I got it working somewhat |
| 22:48.16 | Puffy_wIRC | shift+entet |
| 22:48.20 | Puffy_wIRC | enter |
| 22:48.27 | egaudet | can't |
| 22:48.32 | Puffy_wIRC | why |
| 22:48.40 | egaudet | while holding shift we don't get the enter event |
| 22:48.50 | egaudet | TRACKBALL MODE OFF due to keypress: 13 |
| 22:48.52 | egaudet | damn luna steals it |
| 22:49.33 | Puffy_wIRC | what about shift+backspace |
| 22:49.45 | Puffy_wIRC | nope |
| 22:49.50 | egaudet | deltes word |
| 22:50.04 | Puffy_wIRC | orangr |
| 22:50.11 | egaudet | I mean actually we could hackishly do that shift backspace |
| 22:50.15 | egaudet | I might be able to make that work |
| 22:50.16 | Puffy_wIRC | orange+backspace |
| 22:50.53 | egaudet | orange+backspace or shift+backspace makes no difference |
| 22:50.59 | egaudet | actually shift+backspace might be best |
| 22:51.11 | egaudet | because it already deletes the tabbing text for us |
| 22:51.16 | egaudet | good idea, time to try |
| 22:52.05 | egaudet | well |
| 22:52.18 | egaudet | do we want to get rid of people's ability to del word ? |
| 22:52.47 | Puffy_wIRC | whay about |
| 22:52.56 | Puffy_wIRC | gesture+orange |
| 22:53.08 | Puffy_wIRC | jdhfhdh |
| 22:54.22 | egaudet | i like gesture orange |
| 22:54.34 | *** join/#webos-internals FreeTim3 (n=freetim@pool-71-184-183-163.bstnma.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:56.43 | Puffy_wIRC | oil is there a way we can make the channel header clickable |
| 22:57.00 | Puffy_wIRC | like to show topic |
| 22:57.39 | egaudet | just listen to tap event for on that target |
| 22:58.42 | ni| | wtf |
| 22:59.06 | Puffy_wIRC | can we make it spawn a mini dropdown scrim? |
| 22:59.20 | Puffy_wIRC | ni| what |
| 22:59.35 | ni| | stupid computer |
| 22:59.45 | ni| | my thread view has a serious problem |
| 22:59.48 | ni| | its mixing threads |
| 22:59.54 | ni| | its like... shuffle view |
| 23:00.03 | ni| | but i think i know where the problem is |
| 23:00.06 | Puffy_wIRC | sounds like progress though |
| 23:00.12 | ni| | its all in emu |
| 23:00.14 | ni| | with novaterm |
| 23:00.20 | ni| | i haven't done anything special because i'm lazy |
| 23:00.25 | ni| | i'm just working in vi |
| 23:00.25 | Puffy_wIRC | you are modifying the stock mail app right? |
| 23:00.28 | ni| | yes |
| 23:00.42 | ni| | what we need to do it get git on the phones |
| 23:00.48 | oil | clickable header with dropdown was my plan for topic |
| 23:00.51 | ni| | so ican just work with git in the novaterm |
| 23:00.53 | Puffy_wIRC | ni| optware |
| 23:00.58 | ni| | Puffy_wIRC: ? |
| 23:01.03 | Puffy_wIRC | its on the wiki |
| 23:01.06 | ni| | w/e |
| 23:01.09 | ni| | i'll figure that out later |
| 23:01.23 | Puffy_wIRC | you can install like 1000000 apps with optware |
| 23:01.28 | ni| | lol |
| 23:01.30 | ni| | thats a lot |
| 23:01.35 | Puffy_wIRC | it takes like 2 seconds |
| 23:01.45 | ni| | i have to work on the compiler |
| 23:01.52 | ni| | Puffy_wIRC: ok well i'll do that later |
| 23:01.57 | ni| | because that will be invaluable |
| 23:02.02 | Puffy_wIRC | fine do that |
| 23:02.06 | *** join/#webos-internals doodums (n=thadood@c-75-66-216-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:02.08 | ni| | i can write whatever i want w/o even having a pre |
| 23:02.37 | Puffy_wIRC | that's what I was telling u |
| 23:09.47 | *** join/#webos-internals kesne_ (n=kesne_he@pool-74-107-129-188.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:10.12 | kesne_ | what does optware do? |
| 23:11.05 | Puffy_wIRC | you shoild know |
| 23:11.12 | Puffy_wIRC | you are not a noob |
| 23:11.26 | oil | lol |
| 23:11.36 | *** join/#webos-internals rwhitby (n=rwhitby@au2.astc-design.com) |
| 23:11.41 | *** mode/#webos-internals [+v rwhitby] by ChanServ |
| 23:11.41 | kesne_hero | I'm a noob with Linux crap |
| 23:11.53 | dBsooner | oil: what was your comment of "let's see what you got" about earlier? |
| 23:12.23 | oil | you said you were going to try to do it |
| 23:12.27 | oil | i said, lets see what you got |
| 23:12.27 | dBsooner | Nuh uh.. |
| 23:12.30 | dBsooner | I asked you to do it. |
| 23:12.31 | dBsooner | :) |
| 23:12.38 | dBsooner | doesn't want to break anything.l |
| 23:12.42 | oil | ah |
| 23:13.10 | *** join/#webos-internals Decimation (i=hax-da-h@d192-24-56-160.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 23:13.20 | dBsooner | oil: but sure, I'll take a look at it in a cloned repo |
| 23:13.23 | dBsooner | and build locally |
| 23:13.50 | dBsooner | actually, I'll probably just do everything from inside the phone/ssh in |
| 23:14.03 | Decimation | hello |
| 23:14.15 | dBsooner | rwhitby: welcome back. Did you get my message earlier about asking you to help me out with a buildscript? |
| 23:14.46 | rwhitby | had a disk crash on his IRC bouncer machine. Responses will be delayed during repairs. |
| 23:14.54 | dBsooner | wowsers. |
| 23:15.29 | Decimation | ouch. |
| 23:18.03 | kesne | Puffy_wIRC: is the service in IPK form yet? |
| 23:18.09 | dBsooner | kesne: yes |
| 23:18.18 | kesne | link? |
| 23:18.19 | dBsooner | search the log for us.ryanhope |
| 23:18.24 | ni| | rwhitby: can you put me in touch with the person you talked to? |
| 23:18.31 | ni| | i don't want to impose |
| 23:18.55 | ni| | i have a way to get one from ebay but i have no way of knowning since he won't respond though he is a power seller |
| 23:19.05 | dBsooner | http://preyourmind.org/files/us.ryanhope.wircd_0.0.1_armv7.ipk |
| 23:19.10 | rwhitby | ni|: you mean for a german Pre purchase? |
| 23:19.16 | ni| | rwhitby: yes sir |
| 23:19.24 | ni| | PuffTheMagic: i have quazi thread view now |
| 23:19.26 | dBsooner | kesne: ^^ make sure you run postinst |
| 23:19.34 | ni| | its kind of fucked though still |
| 23:19.54 | kesne | Right, because I know what that means... |
| 23:20.01 | oil | you dont? |
| 23:20.10 | dBsooner | kesne: seriously? |
| 23:20.15 | Puffy_wIRC | lol |
| 23:20.22 | dBsooner | is floored. |
| 23:20.33 | dBsooner | kense: get to terminal |
| 23:20.41 | dBsooner | kesne: wget http://preyourmind.org/files/us.ryanhope.wircd_0.0.1_armv7.ipk |
| 23:20.58 | kesne | When will people relalize that I have no linux know-how |
| 23:21.05 | oil | this is pre knowhow |
| 23:21.06 | ni| | Puffy_wIRC: you laughing at me |
| 23:21.12 | dBsooner | kesne: ipkg -o /var install us.ryanhope.wircd_0.0.1_armv7.ipk |
| 23:21.30 | oil | thinks kesne should change his nick to aunti_kesne |
| 23:21.40 | dBsooner | kesne: sh /var/usr/lib/ipkg/info/us.ryanhope.wircd.postinst |
| 23:22.15 | dBsooner | kesne: wget http://preyourmind.org/files/ws.junk.wirc_0.0.1_all.ipk |
| 23:22.29 | dBsooner | kesne: ipkg -o /var install ws.junk.wirc_0.0.1_all.ipk |
| 23:22.50 | dBsooner | kesne: initctl LunaSysMgr stop && initctl LunaSysMgr start |
| 23:23.05 | dBsooner | kesne: Open launcher, scroll to bottom, select wIRC |
| 23:23.06 | dBsooner | ;) |
| 23:23.37 | Decimation | i cant find the terminal application in preware? :/ |
| 23:23.48 | oil | list of everything > type term |
| 23:24.04 | Decimation | first thing i tried |
| 23:24.04 | Decimation | nothing. |
| 23:24.06 | dBsooner | thinks wIRC might be better off not being published so nicely. ;) |
| 23:24.19 | rwhitby | Decimation: can you get a command line? |
| 23:24.27 | Puffy_wIRC | who is helping kenese I can't tell cause his nick is pink |
| 23:24.30 | rwhitby | Decimation: ipkg -o /var list | grep terminal |
| 23:24.37 | oil | Puffy_wIRC: dbsooner |
| 23:24.39 | dBsooner | Puffy_wIRC: dBsooner |
| 23:24.44 | Puffy_wIRC | lol |
| 23:24.51 | dBsooner | why am I pink? |
| 23:25.00 | Decimation | rwhitby: meh, i didnt want to do ANYTHING on my computer. |
| 23:25.06 | Puffy_wIRC | wirc auto nick color fail |
| 23:25.38 | dBsooner | Hmm.. we should make it easier and add it as a separate repo picked up by the autobuilder. |
| 23:25.58 | kesne | Nick already in use? |
| 23:26.00 | dBsooner | so someone can just echo BLAH >> wirc.temp.conf |
| 23:26.08 | Decimation | yeah, this is weird, terminal just doesnt seem to show up in my preware |
| 23:26.32 | Puffy_wIRC | kesne change your nick |
| 23:26.33 | dBsooner | or i'll write a shellscript |
| 23:26.42 | Decimation | only feeds i have disabled are the theme ones |
| 23:27.14 | rwhitby | Decimation: well, if you want to debug why, type the command I said. if not, "meh" to helping you ;-) |
| 23:27.29 | Decimation | okay, give me one second :) |
| 23:27.30 | kesne | oh I see |
| 23:27.42 | dBsooner | rwhitby: can you help me with that autobuild script later? |
| 23:27.53 | rwhitby | dBsooner: which autobuild script is that? |
| 23:27.57 | *** join/#webos-internals kesne_pre (n=nobody@pool-74-107-129-188.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:28.02 | kesne_pre | Heya |
| 23:28.11 | dBsooner | rwhitby: build.git/obsolete/Makefile |
| 23:28.17 | kesne_pre | It works! |
| 23:28.21 | kesne_pre | Yay! |
| 23:28.24 | rwhitby | dBsooner: what's it going to do? |
| 23:28.24 | Decimation | rwhitby: org.webosinternals.terminal - 0.2.2 - Terminal |
| 23:28.31 | kesne_pre | I feel so happy! |
| 23:28.44 | kesne_pre | Is this a battery killer though? |
| 23:28.46 | rwhitby | Decimation: good - the problem is in oil's court now ;-) |
| 23:28.56 | kesne | kesne_pre: I bet it is |
| 23:29.28 | dBsooner | rwhitby: we want to be able to git mv build.git/autopatch/<packageid>/ to build/git/autopatch/obsolete/ |
| 23:29.33 | kesne | Whats the point of the username list? |
| 23:29.51 | dBsooner | rwhitby: and the Makefile in obsolete will search all subdirs for a Makefile and build a "dummy package" that will just return 1 in the postinst |
| 23:29.56 | Decimation | turns to oil. |
| 23:30.03 | ni| | Puffy_wIRC: my mother goes to germany on the 13th of nov |
| 23:30.05 | ni| | problme solved |
| 23:30.37 | dBsooner | rwhitby: it would need to increase the version #/build # as well so Preware will pick it up as "Updated" |
| 23:30.53 | dBsooner | rwhitby: We thought about making the Version 2.0.0 or 99.99.99 or something.. |
| 23:31.04 | rwhitby | dBsooner: it could just use 1:9.9.9 as the version. |
| 23:31.49 | dBsooner | rwhitby: that would be fine |
| 23:31.50 | dBsooner | rwhitby: something that would never be used, but yet always show up as update |
| 23:32.07 | kesne | Can I close the wIRC app and the connection stays? |
| 23:32.19 | dBsooner | rwhitby: Basically this is the "dummy package" users will see for their Installed package as an "update to <package_id>".. but all it will do is tell them "THIS PACKAGE IS OBSOLETE, PLEASE REMOVE IT AND INSTALL <NEW_PACKAGE>" |
| 23:32.36 | dBsooner | rwhitby: then IF they try to "install" said DUMMY PACKAGE, postinst just returns 1 so it doesn't do anything. |
| 23:33.16 | dBsooner | rwhitby: and ultimately, we would want the "dummy package" (obsolete package) not LISTED in the "list" of Preware.. but still show up as an "updated package". |
| 23:33.28 | Puffy_wIRC | kense ask about it till 1.0.0 |
| 23:34.07 | Puffy_wIRC | ni| awesome |
| 23:34.11 | dBsooner | kesne: First rule of using wIRC at this point in time, Do not ask questions. |
| 23:34.20 | kesne | hehe |
| 23:34.21 | kesne | alright |
| 23:34.32 | dBsooner | or was it, "Don't bug us about bugsA" |
| 23:34.43 | egw | D |
| 23:34.54 | *** join/#webos-internals Deci_pre (n=nobody@d192-24-56-160.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 23:35.04 | Deci_pre | Woot :) |
| 23:35.34 | Puffy_wIRC | don't anything till 1.0.0 |
| 23:35.56 | Deci_pre | Don't anything? |
| 23:35.56 | oil | actually |
| 23:35.57 | oil | do |
| 23:36.01 | oil | just do it to the wiki page |
| 23:36.04 | oil | so we can get to it later |
| 23:36.04 | dBsooner | lol |
| 23:37.21 | rwhitby | watches the aunt minnie adoption of wIRC with interest ... |
| 23:37.31 | Puffy_wIRC | lol |
| 23:37.36 | dBsooner | rwhitby: lol |
| 23:37.44 | dBsooner | rwhitby: I gotta stop helpin' these folks |
| 23:37.54 | Deci_pre | Wow, I finally have a nice convienent way to lurk webos-internals via my Pre :) nice work so far guys |
| 23:37.57 | ni| | Puffy_wIRC: we'll see if i still like the platform after i've deved on it for 2 weeks |
| 23:38.08 | ni| | works better for me than an impulse buy |
| 23:38.23 | dBsooner | rwhitby: What do you think of the idea I stated above? It's whats egaudet and I had come up with. I just wanted to come to you with your GNU Make wizardry. |
| 23:38.30 | Puffy_wIRC | I think/hope you will |
| 23:38.34 | oil | with no impulse buy you have no buyers regret? |
| 23:38.35 | rwhitby | ni|: I've deved on it since before day 1, and still haven't made a phone call on it. |
| 23:38.36 | oil | where is the fun in that |
| 23:38.47 | ni| | rwhitby: ? |
| 23:38.50 | ni| | why |
| 23:38.56 | ni| | rwhitby: you using a treo? |
| 23:39.20 | *** part/#webos-internals Deci_pre (n=nobody@d192-24-56-160.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 23:39.30 | rwhitby | dBsooner: seems fine. we need to talk to oil about the best way to have packages that show as updates but don't show in lists. He can just use Decimation's hiding terminal example as the way to do it ;-) |
| 23:39.45 | rwhitby | ni|: CDMA Pre doesn't work as a phone in Australia. GSM Pre is in transit. |
| 23:39.45 | dBsooner | rwhitby: GOod call! |
| 23:39.53 | ni| | rwhitby: oh thats right |
| 23:39.57 | dBsooner | oil: any ideas? |
| 23:40.00 | ni| | rwhitby: i'm going to au soon enough too |
| 23:40.03 | ni| | thats why i'm gettin gthis |
| 23:40.05 | rwhitby | ni|: I use a Treo 650 at the moment. |
| 23:40.17 | ni| | rwhitby: cool i use an iphone and a blackberry bold |
| 23:40.34 | ni| | and maybe if i'm psyched about the whole thing by the 13th i'll get the pre |
| 23:40.49 | tlp | rwhitby: so did you end up liking the physical device? |
| 23:41.02 | tlp | I remember you expressing some uncertainty prior to getting one |
| 23:41.11 | rwhitby | tlp: physical is good. dunno about call quality yet. GPS doesn't work in southern hemisphere. |
| 23:41.29 | Puffy_wIRC | haha |
| 23:41.43 | tlp | yeah, I just mean the non-phone stuff |
| 23:41.48 | Puffy_wIRC | rwhitby software issue? |
| 23:42.33 | rwhitby | Puffy_wIRC: seems to be a combination of a seed location near Niagara falls, and a too-short timeout which assumes you're either near Niagara Falls, or have operator assisted location data. |
| 23:42.54 | rwhitby | Plus misc software issues that cause a lattitude of 394 degrees. |
| 23:43.21 | Puffy_wIRC | I live min from niagara falls |
| 23:43.36 | rwhitby | Puffy_wIRC: I'll blame you then. Or Canda. |
| 23:43.36 | dBsooner | Puffy_wIRC: but rwhitby does not. ;) |
| 23:43.47 | rwhitby | s/Canda/Canada/ |
| 23:44.12 | Puffy_wIRC | guess we can make our own gps service |
| 23:44.30 | Puffy_wIRC | since we can port the existing java one |
| 23:44.44 | dBsooner | rwhitby: does AGPS work? |
| 23:44.46 | rwhitby | Puffy_wIRC: the problem is not in the java bit. |
| 23:45.13 | rwhitby | dBsooner: no cellular connection, no AGPS. |
| 23:45.27 | dBsooner | rwhitby: that makes perfect sense, no? |
| 23:46.06 | dBsooner | pfft.. just geocode your IP |
| 23:46.17 | Puffy_wIRC | what other software gps code is there? |
| 23:48.01 | dBsooner | thought it was almost 1900 or 1930 |
| 23:48.09 | dBsooner | isntead its only 1745 |
| 23:48.19 | Decimation | jason is making some amazing patches.. |
| 23:49.05 | rwhitby | Decimation: indeed he is, and he's onboard with MIT licensing too, which it great. He has a good sense of when to open source for the community and when to closed source for his business. |
| 23:49.33 | Puffy_wIRC | ni| will have a threaded mail patch soon |
| 23:49.33 | dBsooner | Decimation: feel free to take screen shots of hits patches |
| 23:49.47 | dBsooner | Because he doesn't do that when he uploads with the form. He just attaches the patch. ;) |
| 23:50.03 | Decimation | hes most recent one |
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| 23:50.22 | Decimation | the adding the option to modify your brightness from the top bar. |
| 23:50.23 | Decimation | amazing. |
| 23:52.06 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 23:52.56 | Puffy_wIRC | decimation he's most or his most? |
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| 23:53.45 | entity- | when you install a patch |
| 23:53.53 | entity- | do you have to unistall before upgrading webos |
| 23:54.10 | dBsooner | entity-: run EPR immediately before or after updating |
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| 23:55.48 | dBsooner | egaudet: you wrote that *_extra for no quick launcher yet? |
| 23:55.53 | dBsooner | you said no later than today.. :D |
| 23:56.12 | dBsooner | and then I check my email |
| 23:56.53 | egaudet | runs |
| 23:57.13 | dBsooner | that is what the email was, no? |
| 23:57.13 | egaudet | dBsooner, I'll do it as soon as I'm finished with this promise |
| 23:57.20 | egaudet | what email? |
| 23:57.21 | dBsooner | so what was the email? |
| 23:57.27 | dBsooner | "postinst,preinst" |
| 23:57.31 | dBsooner | or were those old? |
| 23:57.37 | egaudet | ? |
| 23:57.41 | egaudet | I didn't send you any emails recently |
| 23:57.49 | dBsooner | disregard |
| 23:57.53 | dBsooner | those were way old |
| 23:58.06 | dBsooner | OK.. so .. "Finished with this" could mean a lot of things. |
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