| 00:00.09 | Giomancer | Ah |
| 00:00.09 | ckknight | since there are better technologies to do so out now |
| 00:00.09 | ckknight | that weren't before |
| 00:00.16 | ckknight | or that were slow before that now has an acceptable speed |
| 00:00.21 | ckknight | (referring to dynamic languages) |
| 00:00.31 | encaitar1 | write games in assembly! |
| 00:00.33 | Giomancer | Well, it was for the Apple II, so not too much choice. |
| 00:01.05 | ckknight | yea, well, pretty sure we're in 2009 now, not 1979 |
| 00:01.06 | Giomancer | Was for fun. But I had to learn the language first.. that's on hiatus atm. :P |
| 00:01.39 | Giomancer | lol |
| 00:01.43 | Giomancer | Yea |
| 00:01.50 | Giomancer | Like I saidm was fir fun. XD |
| 00:03.17 | ckknight | other languages are more fun |
| 00:03.21 | ckknight | that's what I'm saying |
| 00:03.29 | ckknight | fuck you, semicolons |
| 00:03.47 | Valkea | currently i do like ActionScript 3, this is a fun oo language |
| 00:04.06 | Valkea | easy and quick to create fun stuff ;) |
| 00:04.22 | ckknight | yea, there's far worse things out there |
| 00:11.09 | encaitar1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type-in_program - this is what I'm talking about. You could buy a computer game magazine, and type in a program and play a simple game. There's no programming that's so easily accessible by anybody now. |
| 00:12.10 | ckknight | python |
| 00:12.15 | ckknight | print "Hello, World!" |
| 00:12.18 | encaitar1 | but it's not |
| 00:12.22 | encaitar1 | Yes, It's simple. |
| 00:12.26 | ckknight | because you don't buy it in a magazine? |
| 00:12.27 | ckknight | you download it |
| 00:12.28 | encaitar1 | But simple != accessible |
| 00:12.59 | encaitar1 | you first have to know what to look for. |
| 00:13.07 | encaitar1 | you then have to know where to look |
| 00:13.17 | encaitar1 | then you have to know how to donwload and install it. |
| 00:13.34 | encaitar1 | easy stuff for us |
| 00:14.11 | encaitar1 | but back then you could literally just turn it on, type it in, and done. |
| 00:14.26 | ckknight | I didn't use anything like that, encaitar1 |
| 00:14.28 | ckknight | I turned out fine |
| 00:14.56 | encaitar1 | Of course you did. |
| 00:15.07 | encaitar1 | Because you sought it out. |
| 00:15.52 | encaitar1 | In the 80's, just about every kid I knew could walk into a computer store and have their name up on all the computer screens. |
| 00:16.14 | encaitar1 | How many of your class mates could do that now? |
| 00:16.50 | encaitar1 | Your classmates from school, not college. |
| 00:17.03 | ckknight | I don't go to school |
| 00:17.07 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:17.24 | ckknight | you mean high school? |
| 00:17.31 | ckknight | my guess ... 3 |
| 00:17.37 | ckknight | ish |
| 00:18.22 | encaitar1 | Right, they know how to use computers very well I imagine, but I think the average kid now knows less about how they work than the average kid 20 years ago. |
| 00:19.10 | ckknight | average kid 20 years ago probably played stick ball and never owned a game boy |
| 00:19.11 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:19.16 | ckknight | meh |
| 00:19.26 | ckknight | I think you overestimate what average people can do |
| 00:20.15 | encaitar1 | Oh I'm not saying every kid 20 years ago was a genius or anything. |
| 00:20.38 | encaitar1 | Often 10 print "My name!" 20 goto 10 was the sum of their knowledge :) |
| 00:23.12 | encaitar1 | I blame microsoft :) |
| 00:24.14 | Alocer | So I was going to go with turning my integer-index table into a key one based on the player's name, so should the NemesisPlayer.New function be the one putting the new name and it's table in the savedvar table? |
| 00:28.49 | Alocer | Like so http://waruidev.pastey.net/106434 |
| 00:31.12 | ckknight | looks good |
| 00:31.51 | Alocer | Then when updating the values, I would do Nemesis.Players[name].level = 10, or something |
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| 00:32.24 | Alocer | Because I don't think newPlayer = NemesisPlayer.New("Alocer"); newPlayer.level = 10, would work? |
| 00:33.17 | Alocer | Well hrmm |
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| 00:35.56 | Alocer | The name I'm using would be passed from a different function as a parameter... like playerKilled = "Alocer"; Nemesis.OnKill(playerKilled). Then in function Nemesis.OnKill(playerName), it would be newPlayer = NemesisPlayer.New(playerName) |
| 00:36.24 | Alocer | Which would make Nemesis.Players[playerName] |
| 00:38.17 | Alocer | Oh wait... |
| 00:38.32 | Repo | 10libgui: 03Aiiane * r26 LibGUI.lua: ADDED: Almost all element types now allow you to pass a third parameter to :New() to specify an existing window template to base them off of, if you desire to use XML to tweak things (or set params not available from Lua) but still want to use LibGUI to wrap them. |
| 00:38.33 | Alocer | Scratch all of that, I'm not even returning anything in New... hah... maybe I need a break |
| 00:39.13 | Alocer | Maybe it's just totally pointless to try and even use objects in the first place |
| 00:48.09 | Giomancer | Okay, I am confused. The error I'm getting says that it expects a curly brace, but there *IS* a closing curly brace.. |
| 00:48.31 | Alocer | If it's a table, with multiple things, see if you're missing a comma |
| 00:49.16 | MrOffline_D | Ok, i need some help. I have finally a "usable" version of my addon, but i still have no name for it :( |
| 00:49.27 | Alocer | What's it do? |
| 00:49.49 | Alocer | Either way I'd name it KittenJuggler9000 |
| 00:49.50 | MrOffline_D | The addon alölows you to create single actionbutton that you can scale or group together as you wish |
| 00:50.04 | MrOffline_D | eh ofcourse more than one button |
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| 00:50.28 | MrOffline_D | it supports stances |
| 00:50.33 | MrOffline_D | and currently only states |
| 00:50.36 | Alocer | For replacing action bars? |
| 00:50.39 | MrOffline_D | yep |
| 00:51.04 | MrOffline_D | you can for example create a button that switches the skill on it when the skill thats normally on is on cooldown |
| 00:51.26 | Alocer | Very interesting |
| 00:51.46 | MrOffline_D | work still in progress ... but i need a name so i can upload it xD |
| 00:51.52 | Alocer | Hmm |
| 00:52.15 | MrOffline_D | currently its called "InsertGuildName" xD |
| 00:52.30 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 00:52.31 | MrOffline_D | and the slashcommand is /abcd ... |
| 00:52.35 | MrOffline_D | xD |
| 00:52.44 | Alocer | Call it AlphaBarT |
| 00:53.15 | MrOffline_D | hmm |
| 00:53.17 | Alocer | BarMaster |
| 00:53.29 | Vidhar | Barkeeper |
| 00:53.32 | MrOffline_D | lol |
| 00:53.43 | Alocer | Or the crappy work of BarBack |
| 00:54.03 | Alocer | names are always the hardest part |
| 00:54.11 | MrOffline_D | actually these aint bars ... just button |
| 00:54.11 | MrOffline_D | s |
| 00:54.39 | Alocer | True, true |
| 00:55.05 | Alocer | BuildingButtons |
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| 00:55.30 | Vidhar | ButtonBitch |
| 00:56.07 | MrOffline_D | i thought of smth like "Me ol gud Buttons" |
| 00:56.26 | MrOffline_D | or "Me old good Buttons" |
| 00:56.28 | Alocer | SpareButtons |
| 00:56.37 | MrOffline_D | sounds tasty |
| 00:56.55 | Alocer | TastyButtons |
| 00:57.01 | MrOffline_D | is it possible to change the name of a project after its uploaded |
| 00:57.03 | MrOffline_D | ? |
| 00:57.05 | MrOffline_D | TastyButtons! |
| 00:57.12 | MrOffline_D | thats quite an awesome name |
| 00:57.14 | Alocer | Think you need a new project then? |
| 00:57.31 | Alocer | But, I'd wait for another response |
| 00:57.56 | MrOffline_D | TastyButtons is really great though |
| 00:58.10 | Alocer | Haha good, half your work coming up with the name :p |
| 00:58.22 | MrOffline_D | true true |
| 00:58.55 | ckknight | there's two hard things in computer science |
| 00:59.06 | ckknight | naming things and cache invalidation |
| 00:59.49 | Giomancer | Okay, how do I make "CustomizeUiWindowOptionsScrollChildActionBarsBodyToggleMenuTitle" actually exist? |
| 01:00.01 | Alocer | That's a mouth full |
| 01:00.06 | Giomancer | Because right now, it doesn't. :P |
| 01:00.30 | Alocer | Where are you getting that from? |
| 01:01.12 | Giomancer | I made it? Which is why it's not existing. |
| 01:01.28 | Giomancer | Because I obviously didn't make it properly. |
| 01:01.46 | Alocer | Oh, well if you wrote the XML, make sure you're not missing a > or something |
| 01:02.24 | Giomancer | Well, I didn't write any XML at all. |
| 01:02.38 | Giomancer | So, that is a fairly big tip-off... |
| 01:02.39 | Alocer | It sounds like the name of a window? |
| 01:02.44 | Giomancer | It is, yup |
| 01:03.03 | Alocer | That you have no xml for? |
| 01:03.16 | Giomancer | Looks like it. :) |
| 01:03.27 | Alocer | Is it inheriting anything? |
| 01:03.34 | Alocer | Err well |
| 01:03.37 | Alocer | You wouldn't know that |
| 01:03.41 | Alocer | If there's no xml |
| 01:03.41 | Giomancer | Well |
| 01:03.43 | Alocer | so uhhh |
| 01:04.30 | Alocer | Are you trying to make your own window then? |
| 01:05.57 | Giomancer | No. It's part of the customizeUI window |
| 01:06.36 | Alocer | Who's? |
| 01:06.48 | Giomancer | Uh, Mythic's? |
| 01:07.35 | Giomancer | It's okay, you've pointed me in the right direction |
| 01:08.15 | Alocer | I just didn't know what you were trying to do with Mythic's window |
| 01:09.34 | Giomancer | Well, I am modifying the Action Bars subwindow |
| 01:10.26 | Alocer | I think AdvActionBars does that, if you want to check it out |
| 01:11.06 | Alocer | http://war.curse.com/downloads/war-addons/details/z5thactionbar.aspx |
| 01:11.25 | Alocer | like the screenshot, for fixed radio button |
| 01:11.41 | Giomancer | heh, I am trying to clean up their code. |
| 01:11.50 | Alocer | Oh, heh |
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| 01:20.25 | Alocer | Is it more efficient having multiple tables that you loop through faster to find info, than having one larger table? |
| 01:21.34 | ckknight | it depends |
| 01:23.33 | Alocer | It'd be like Nemesis.Players={Alocer={flag="Nemesis",count=1, level=10}, Gaul={flag="Domination", count=2, level=15}, Pyke={flag="Arch Enemy", count=5, level=12}} |
| 01:23.46 | Alocer | or scrap the flag, and just have a Nemesis, Domination, and ArchEnemy table |
| 01:24.05 | Alocer | But the player can only be in one table at a time anyways |
| 01:25.32 | Alocer | But no matter what happens I'd have to loop through the whole Players table, whereas depending on what I'm doing, I'd just go through the one seperate table |
| 01:30.09 | Alocer | Well, I guess I already have those 3 tables for user settings anyways, might as well as just add player info to them |
| 01:32.29 | Alocer | MyTable={ name="bob", Name="Bob" } works right? |
| 01:33.00 | Alocer | Erm sorry, thinking out loud, fingers off keyboard now |
| 01:43.24 | Aiiane | why would you have to loop though? |
| 01:45.08 | Alocer | Well, I need to store how many times a player has died or killed you, but they're actually only a nemesis/domination after so many times |
| 01:45.33 | Alocer | So I loop through, and if their count is high enough, then they're actually a nemesis or domination |
| 01:45.45 | Alocer | otherwise they're "on their way" to becoming one |
| 01:46.47 | Alocer | So I just went with seperate tables, it's easier, for me, screw efficiency |
| 01:47.21 | Aiiane | the only time the count is going to change is when they die or kill you, right? |
| 01:47.37 | Aiiane | and at that specific point in time, you have their name, right? |
| 01:47.38 | Alocer | Yeah, so either a killing blow, or your death, will update numbers |
| 01:47.41 | Alocer | Correct |
| 01:47.57 | Aiiane | so you can just do Nemesis.Players[nameOfPerson] with the name you have, right? |
| 01:48.09 | Alocer | Yeah |
| 01:48.16 | Aiiane | so where's the looping necessary? |
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| 01:48.40 | Alocer | Because if I just do it with one table, I need to flag if they've been killing your or you're killing them |
| 01:48.55 | Aiiane | but you have their name |
| 01:49.00 | Aiiane | so you know exactly where to look in that table |
| 01:49.29 | Alocer | Erm, this is very true |
| 01:49.50 | Alocer | I've changed the way I'm trying to do this 20 times just today... |
| 01:50.05 | MrOffline_D | eh, which license is best suited for my addon? |
| 01:50.27 | Aiiane | take your pick, MrOffline_D. I typically use MIT for most of mine |
| 01:50.37 | MrOffline_D | ah ok, thoght the same |
| 01:50.59 | MrOffline_D | s/thoght/thought |
| 01:51.12 | Aiiane | it basically allows others to do whatever they want with it as long as a) they give attribution and b) don't hold you liable |
| 01:56.49 | MrOffline_D | uploading an addon is so boring -.- now i have to write a description -.- /cry |
| 01:57.17 | Alocer | Mine desperately needs rewritten |
| 01:58.22 | Vidhar | and it is already 3AM here, in 7hours MrOffline_D and i will have to hand in our operating systems homework and i do not intend to do it alone. |
| 01:58.30 | Vidhar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.42 | MrOffline_D | and i intend to hate operating systems :/ |
| 01:58.47 | Alocer | hehe |
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| 02:16.43 | Repo | 10libgui: 03Aiiane * r27 LibGUI.lua: ADDED: New methods for all elements - :TakesInput(), :ProcessAnchors(), :FontAlpha(alphaVal), :Focus(), :Defocus(), :SetId(id), :GetId(), |
| 02:16.47 | Repo | FIXED: Textboxes should no longer be zero height. |
| 02:16.51 | Repo | CHANGED: Images will now capture input by default. |
| 02:18.17 | art3mis | but aiiane |
| 02:18.28 | art3mis | your addon gave me herpes and killed my dog! |
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| 02:19.12 | Bloodwalker | argh damn you scroll window! |
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| 02:32.18 | Bloodwalker | grrrrrrr |
| 02:33.42 | WikkiFizzle | hm..geneshift is in Rochester |
| 02:33.56 | WikkiFizzle | Perhaps Ill invade their house on Monday! |
| 02:34.48 | Bloodwalker | why wait.. home invasions are fun any time of day or night! |
| 02:35.32 | Bloodwalker | skimask.. check... duct tape... check.... crowbar .. check... let's go! |
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| 02:41.45 | Vidhar | i very much prefer to bring my ninja army to invasions |
| 02:42.25 | Repo | 10libgui: 03Aiiane * r28 LibGUI.lua: ADDED: A window's Add() method can now accept a third argument, elementBase, which will be passed through to :New(). |
| 02:44.34 | WikkiFizzle | Thank you Aii :) |
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| 02:58.30 | Giomancer | hm, XML. :O |
| 02:58.43 | Aiiane | hm? |
| 02:59.32 | Giomancer | Trying to figure out this XML stuff |
| 03:00.13 | Giomancer | Now that I have successfully renamed the section window |
| 03:00.30 | Giomancer | I am trying to add a label. |
| 03:00.38 | Giomancer | within that section. |
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| 03:03.42 | Giomancer | I may have figured this out.. |
| 03:09.37 | MrOffline_D | hm, how can i edit the caveats? ... i have typo in mine :/ |
| 03:10.01 | Aiiane | go to the file's page, and choose Edit File from the dropdown on the upper-right? |
| 03:11.42 | MrOffline_D | ah -.- thats hidden quite well ! |
| 03:11.49 | MrOffline_D | but thanks :D |
| 03:12.28 | Aiiane | when in doubt, check that dropdown. |
| 03:14.08 | MrOffline_D | yeah, gonna memorize it .... |
| 03:14.25 | MrOffline_D | websites are just to complex these days :/ |
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| 03:14.46 | ckknight | I blame our frontend designer, MrOffline_D |
| 03:15.18 | ckknight | that is to say |
| 03:15.23 | ckknight | we have no frontend designer |
| 03:15.26 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 03:15.30 | Aiiane | thus, I blame ckknight |
| 03:15.39 | ckknight | nah, actually it was Kaelten who did the dropdowns |
| 03:15.42 | ckknight | way back in the day |
| 03:15.50 | ckknight | on wowace, it's inline with the pages |
| 03:16.08 | Aiiane | im still blaming you, dear |
| 03:16.20 | ckknight | nuh-uh! |
| 03:16.30 | ckknight | remember the Sonny and Cher bit we talked about? |
| 03:17.18 | MrOffline_D | i remember that uploading and addon was much easier the first time i did it ... |
| 03:17.54 | ckknight | MrOffline_D: the trick is to not upload |
| 03:18.03 | ckknight | ~laziness |
| 03:18.04 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 03:18.25 | ckknight | MrOffline_D: if you use the repository system we provide, you get free packaging |
| 03:18.28 | Aiiane | ckknight: I'll stop blaming you if you can make users understand that just because disabling a library that addons depend on makes a problem go away, does not mean the dependency is at fault |
| 03:18.44 | MrOffline_D | but, true, but i have my own svn repository ;) |
| 03:19.20 | ckknight | curse your black heart |
| 03:19.25 | ckknight | but at least that. |
| 03:19.39 | ckknight | also, down with svn |
| 03:19.50 | ckknight | up with distributed revision control |
| 03:21.34 | MrOffline_D | hm, i couldnt have use the repository system ... my project is still awaiting approval xD |
| 03:21.47 | ckknight | yes, you could've |
| 03:21.51 | ckknight | you can use repos before approval |
| 03:22.13 | Repo | New project: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/tastybuttons/. TastyButtons. mroffline (Manager/Author). Approved by Aiiane. |
| 03:22.14 | Aiiane | but I can fix the other bit anyways |
| 03:23.36 | Bloodwalker | besides if you use Hg you can use your local repo before having a cf project |
| 03:23.37 | MrOffline_D | oh thanks aiiane :D |
| 03:25.59 | Bloodwalker | more editbox odd behaviour.... when you have a large editbox inside a scrollwindow... it will intercept mouseclicks even when it doesnt show as the mouseover window.. even when outside its parent window boundaries |
| 03:26.40 | ckknight | MrOffline_D: we support Svn, Git, or Hg, if you ever decide to switch |
| 03:27.40 | Giomancer | gogo gadget Git! |
| 03:27.57 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:28.02 | ckknight | I use git for my personal projects |
| 03:28.17 | tronned | sweet, Pitch Black is on |
| 03:28.44 | Giomancer | How the hell can I tell the absolute position of a window? |
| 03:28.51 | Giomancer | For example |
| 03:29.40 | Giomancer | The "window" I am modifying is actually a subwindow that appears within another window |
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| 03:30.23 | Bloodwalker | window position is all relative to whatever other window they are anchored to |
| 03:30.42 | Bloodwalker | windows can be anchored to anything.. not jsut their parent windows |
| 03:32.18 | Giomancer | That doesn't help me at all |
| 03:32.21 | Giomancer | XD |
| 03:33.15 | Bloodwalker | well you havent said what your trying to actually do yet :) |
| 03:35.07 | Giomancer | I'm trying to find out the absolute position of a sub-subwindow |
| 03:35.17 | Giomancer | So that I can make it. |
| 03:35.48 | Bloodwalker | thats the point.. there is no absolute |
| 03:36.09 | Giomancer | <AbsPoint x="30" y="20" /> |
| 03:36.12 | Bloodwalker | you just make the window and anchor it where you want |
| 03:37.30 | Bloodwalker | AbsPoint is misleading... sometimes it describes a size other times a point depending which tag its inside of |
| 03:37.30 | Giomancer | Okay, that would defeat the purpose, wouldn't it? |
| 03:37.47 | Bloodwalker | the purpose of what? |
| 03:38.12 | Giomancer | If I'm trying to stay within a subwindow, having a label window appear somewhere random would be silly. |
| 03:38.41 | Bloodwalker | its not random.. thats what anchors are for... its just relative to the anchor |
| 03:44.41 | Thurwell_ | Geez, I have a 5 line defn of a blank window and war keeps saying it's invalud |
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| 03:49.06 | Bloodwalker | typo |
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| 03:50.09 | Thurwell_ | I've paired it down to <Window name="DuffTimerContainer"/>. where's my typo |
| 03:51.12 | Bloodwalker | one line and it still doesnt like it? |
| 03:52.07 | Bloodwalker | typo in the rest of the file? wont load the file if theres a problem somewhere else |
| 03:52.08 | Thurwell_ | Better yet, I can create the window direct, but I can't use it as a template |
| 03:52.16 | Thurwell_ | but it tells you when it won't load the file |
| 03:56.35 | Thurwell_ | ah hah, you can't ignore the parent option even if you don't want to parent the window |
| 03:59.20 | Bloodwalker | theres always a parent.. even if you choose Root as parent |
| 04:00.07 | Thurwell_ | apparently |
| 04:00.54 | Aiiane | thurwell: if you have a 5-line definition of a window |
| 04:00.59 | Aiiane | you can't have the start tag end in /> |
| 04:01.06 | Aiiane | that closes the tag as well as starting it |
| 04:01.11 | Aiiane | you need to get rid of the slash |
| 04:03.10 | Thurwell_ | Oh no, I cut everything out of that window to get it down to one line trying to find the problem |
| 04:03.29 | Thurwell_ | but the error was misleading so I was looking in the wrong palce |
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| 04:12.18 | MrOffline_D | good night ;) |
| 04:12.43 | Aiiane | night |
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| 04:15.03 | Thurwell_ | I dunno if that's a real programming technique, but when I can't find a problem I tend to start commenting things out til it works, and then putting stuff back in til it breaks |
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| 04:28.46 | Bloodwalker | Aiiane you around? Can seem to find where the UI handles /script commands |
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| 04:35.50 | Daegalus | herro |
| 04:36.19 | Bloodwalker | Hey |
| 04:45.58 | Aiiane | Bloodwalker: it doesn't |
| 04:46.04 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.17 | Aiiane | (because it basically needs loadstring, which isn't made available to the standard Lua environment in WAR |
| 04:47.22 | Bloodwalker | i figured as much but was looking for where it might check for the /script |
| 04:47.48 | Aiiane | that check is once it hits c-side, too |
| 04:48.25 | Bloodwalker | thats what I thought.. thanks |
| 04:49.24 | Daegalus | this isnt good =\ im starting to lose my drive to play WAR. All that ever happens is mass zerging. No 6v6, no cities, nothing. |
| 04:50.08 | Aiiane | You need to sign on at weirder times of night. :P |
| 04:50.26 | Daegalus | what do you mean by weirder times? |
| 04:51.20 | Aiiane | times of night when the zerg numbers aren't on ;) |
| 04:51.39 | Aiiane | I've found that the best 6v6 action seems to pop up late at night, after peak hours |
| 04:54.50 | Daegalus | ya, but by then no one is on, and my gf gets tired and goes to bed, as much fun as I have alone, it gets dull |
| 04:55.30 | Aiiane | true :| |
| 04:58.32 | Daegalus | i think thats turning me off slowly is that ther eis abosultely nothing to dooutside PVP. I mean dungeons every 3 days, and maybe if you are bored enough to level up aprofession, which is boring. I dunno, the world seems to be lacking something. Cities are empty, no social hubs. |
| 05:03.26 | Daegalus | though, imma keep trying, still gonna work on my addons, but I havent logged onto my DoK in like a week |
| 05:03.45 | Daegalus | and before just now, i havent been on war in 5 days |
| 05:04.28 | Daegalus | i think mythic got too into the "WAR WAR WAR" part of the game |
| 05:05.10 | Aiiane | well, what else are you wanting them to add, out of curiousity? |
| 05:05.59 | Daegalus | something to do when there is no PVP going on, or you get tired of the zerg vs zerg mentality |
| 05:06.34 | Aiiane | well yes, that much I was able to guess, but what would qualify? |
| 05:09.04 | Thunder_Child | porn |
| 05:10.04 | Daegalus | hmm, i dunno, the zoned world makes it harder to do stuff much in terms of big world exploration. and i think they need to compltely redo the profession system, or add more professions. Make more gear in this game. more variety, and less focused on Annihlator/Sentinel/Conqueror. Cause once you get those, you just sit back and pew pew. until a city finallygoes under attack some day |
| 05:11.13 | Daegalus | there is a lot you can do |
| 05:12.21 | Daegalus | more dungeons would help too, like in the lower tiers. |
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| 06:09.59 | Bloodwalker | anyone happen to know the maximum length Wh can handle for a wstring? |
| 06:10.22 | WikkiFizzle | 9000! |
| 06:11.49 | Aiiane | Bloodwalker: there's a max? |
| 06:11.56 | Aiiane | aside from memory limits, ofc |
| 06:13.14 | Bloodwalker | I remember the curseprofiler having problems with a string too long |
| 06:14.55 | Aiiane | otoh, curseprofiler can generate *really* long strings if it has a enough data to serialize |
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| 06:55.10 | Repo | 10squared: 03Aiiane * r171 / (3 files in 1 directory): Some drycoded updates to get Squared ready for patch 1.1.1 - hopefully. Need to double-check some return formats and whatnot before this gets finalized. |
| 06:58.06 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki * r74 / (30 files in 4 directories): Resolutions for tickets: 3, 5, 6 |
| 06:58.10 | Repo | Adds the Pure GUI configuration. |
| 06:58.13 | Repo | Removed a few configuration settings that werent being used. |
| 06:58.18 | Repo | Renamed the target-frame-show option into its 2 parts: friendly-frame-show, hostile-frame-show. |
| 06:58.42 | Daegalus | wait, aiiane, 1.1.1? whens that |
| 06:59.01 | WikkiFizzle | Sometime in the future |
| 06:59.20 | Daegalus | lol, well, i just dont get what we are preparing for when we dont know anything about it? |
| 06:59.27 | WikkiFizzle | Some of us do |
| 06:59.53 | WikkiFizzle | Unfortunately we cant talk about it |
| 07:00.02 | Daegalus | oh ya, elders |
| 07:01.35 | WikkiFizzle | If you diff her code perhaps ;) |
| 07:02.08 | Daegalus | lol, i wouldnt understand anything, or it wouldnt apply to me, unless they change anything related to bags/inventory |
| 07:02.30 | Daegalus | oh fuck, i just realized. I need to add code for Overflow |
| 07:04.19 | Daegalus | i just enjoy being a beta tester. Wish i was in US beta. |
| 07:04.42 | Daegalus | stupid beta applications and the dreaded "Work for gaming industry" checkbox |
| 07:05.12 | WikkiFizzle | I typically check that |
| 07:05.18 | WikkiFizzle | then qualify it as: |
| 07:05.33 | WikkiFizzle | My job is a huge video game, where if you crash a train, you end up in jail! |
| 07:05.46 | Daegalus | lol |
| 07:06.01 | Daegalus | well I worked for EA at the time |
| 07:06.07 | Daegalus | i just didnt know i had to use my work email |
| 07:06.16 | Daegalus | along with my checkbox to get an instant invite |
| 07:06.26 | Daegalus | but in turn, i got a perma ban |
| 07:07.07 | Daegalus | but i dont see how it would work. I was done testing Rockband a month later, and no longer worked there, so i wouldnt have access to my email |
| 07:07.27 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki 040.6.0-beta * r75 : Tagging as 0.6.0-beta |
| 07:07.32 | Repo | ~lart Aiiane |
| 07:07.32 | purl | calls Aiiane on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 07:08.08 | Aiiane | woo |
| 07:08.21 | Daegalus | interesting, apparently you can lart through repo commits |
| 07:08.26 | Daegalus | so much possibility now |
| 07:08.28 | WikkiFizzle | ;) |
| 07:08.43 | Aiiane | you didn't know that Daegalus? |
| 07:08.48 | Aiiane | I've whalepunted people before |
| 07:08.59 | WikkiFizzle | If I could do it all over again, I would propose to my wife in a repo commit! |
| 07:09.05 | Aiiane | ...no you wouldn't |
| 07:09.21 | WikkiFizzle | Ok, Id do it how I did it :P |
| 07:09.29 | WikkiFizzle | with the huge freaking ocean behind us |
| 07:09.33 | WikkiFizzle | waves crashing around the rocks |
| 07:09.37 | Daegalus | no i didnt xD |
| 07:09.39 | WikkiFizzle | with about 100 people I dont know watching |
| 07:12.07 | Repo | 10phantom: 03Aiiane * r13 PhantomLib/PhantomLib.lua: (PhantomLib) Modified how some of the hooking is done; also added a check for whether the action bar lock toggle exists when trying to hide it to prevent an error message on initial load. |
| 07:12.30 | WikkiFizzle | Aii just to give you a heads up on what Pure does with PhantomLib and Phantom |
| 07:12.53 | WikkiFizzle | If Phantom is detected as being installed I let Phantom handle the default stuff |
| 07:13.01 | WikkiFizzle | If not, I have PhantomLib handle it |
| 07:14.28 | Aiiane | You can always just set the PhantomLib options when you initially load Pure; Phantom will put its settings into place at LOADING_END |
| 07:15.03 | Aiiane | but what you do currently is also perfectly fine |
| 07:18.22 | Aiiane | also wikki, idk if you've changed much visually, but you might want to post an updated screenshot for pure if you have |
| 07:19.13 | WikkiFizzle | Yar Im doing all that now |
| 07:19.16 | WikkiFizzle | Screenshots |
| 07:19.19 | WikkiFizzle | the page description |
| 07:19.21 | WikkiFizzle | in dev page |
| 07:19.40 | Daegalus | you know, i dunno if this is good or not, but I've written the entire Pouches backend, without running once in WAR. |
| 07:19.49 | Aiiane | lol |
| 07:19.59 | Aiiane | depends, how good are you at dry-coding |
| 07:20.07 | Aiiane | also; have you been using luac to check syntax |
| 07:20.27 | Daegalus | ya ive been using Luac, and i dunno, JunkDump was mostly drycoded |
| 07:20.32 | Daegalus | at first |
| 07:20.42 | Daegalus | and now that I know what the hell im doing, unlike with junkdump |
| 07:20.45 | Daegalus | it seems easier |
| 07:20.48 | Aiiane | ...don't you remember how much time we spent going through JD? :P |
| 07:21.17 | Aiiane | but yes, 'knowing what the hell you're doing' generally makes things easier :p |
| 07:21.19 | Daegalus | ya, but thats cause it was the first time I used lua, first time I've written an addon, and I had no clue what I was doing for most of it |
| 07:21.45 | WikkiFizzle | Welcome to my life with Aura |
| 07:21.49 | WikkiFizzle | I was in the same boat |
| 07:22.06 | WikkiFizzle | Even with Pure Ive learned a lot more on how to truly use the language |
| 07:22.19 | WikkiFizzle | and thats only the tip of the iceberg for me |
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| 07:22.59 | Giomancer | Aiiane about? |
| 07:23.11 | Daegalus | anyone happen to know how Overflow is handled? my extracted files are from 1.0.4 |
| 07:24.01 | Daegalus | or what was hte link to the google code repository of the extracted UI? |
| 07:24.28 | WikkiFizzle | Aiiane left Gio. She is on vacation for a few years! |
| 07:25.01 | Daegalus | ya, did you read her goodbye thread on Curse and WHA? |
| 07:25.11 | Giomancer | Aw. :( |
| 07:25.35 | WikkiFizzle | Something about some Gio's guys questions put her over the edge |
| 07:25.40 | WikkiFizzle | I guess that would be you |
| 07:25.45 | Giomancer | http://code.google.com/p/wardiff/source/browse/trunk |
| 07:25.56 | Giomancer | That's for you, Dae |
| 07:26.04 | Giomancer | :( |
| 07:26.26 | Daegalus | haha thanks, but i just found it myself using some google searching, but thank you anyway =) |
| 07:26.30 | Giomancer | ah |
| 07:26.36 | Giomancer | Well, fine then. :P |
| 07:27.18 | Daegalus | anyways, if you yell for aiiane loud enough, she might hear you at her vacation place |
| 07:27.43 | Giomancer | Well, she was on earlier |
| 07:28.24 | Daegalus | ya, she got on her plane a few hours ago |
| 07:28.54 | WikkiFizzle | ~seen Aiiane |
| 07:28.56 | purl | aiiane is currently on #waruidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 580 messages. Is idling for 7m 39s, last said: 'but yes, 'knowing what the hell you're doing' generally makes things easier :p'. |
| 07:29.18 | Giomancer | That's so true |
| 07:29.35 | Daegalus | lol |
| 07:30.44 | Aiiane | ? |
| 07:30.48 | Giomancer | Aha! |
| 07:31.02 | Giomancer | Wanted to ask about Binder |
| 07:31.10 | Aiiane | it has 3 rings |
| 07:31.12 | WikkiFizzle | Nothing to see here! |
| 07:31.13 | Aiiane | eeep |
| 07:31.36 | Giomancer | What's the difference between what it and activating "save settings per character"? |
| 07:31.50 | Aiiane | save settings per character doesn't affect keybindings. period. |
| 07:31.54 | Giomancer | o.o; |
| 07:31.59 | Giomancer | That's dumb! |
| 07:32.13 | Aiiane | not really. |
| 07:32.28 | Aiiane | keybindings are stored in the same file that the save_settings_per_char setting is stored in. |
| 07:32.33 | Giomancer | haha |
| 07:33.00 | Aiiane | which is separate from the actual UI settings. |
| 07:33.17 | Aiiane | also, for anyone who uses Squared and is interested: |
| 07:33.18 | Aiiane | http://warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3265742 |
| 07:34.20 | Giomancer | My only problem with Binder, though, is if I delete a character, its profile stays. |
| 07:34.34 | Giomancer | As far as I noticed, anyhow./ :P |
| 07:34.46 | Daegalus | eh, all i did was make it go down, and then to the right. Like Grid does in WoW. otherwise, i dont have much customization. Turned on colored health bars based on HP% and colored names by class. |
| 07:36.04 | Aiiane | Giomancer: new characters will have the settings of the last-logged-in character |
| 07:36.32 | Aiiane | but you can safely hit the 'restore defaults' keybinding button without wiping out your other characters' keybindings profiles |
| 07:36.39 | Aiiane | so I don't see why that's really an issue |
| 07:36.40 | Giomancer | Huh? |
| 07:37.20 | Aiiane | huh huh? |
| 07:37.51 | Giomancer | I was referring to the fact that if I delete a character with a profile, its profile stays in the saved variables thing |
| 07:38.44 | Aiiane | oh |
| 07:38.53 | Aiiane | that shouldn't really matter, since it doesn't affect anything... |
| 07:39.58 | Giomancer | Well, it doesn't matter, no |
| 07:40.24 | Giomancer | But I did notice, is all. :P |
| 07:43.29 | Giomancer | Okay, I need to write down my ideas for these things |
| 07:43.50 | Aiiane | I have too many ideas, and never enough time |
| 07:43.55 | Giomancer | hehe |
| 07:44.04 | Giomancer | I have time, but no skill/ |
| 07:44.17 | Aiiane | skill can be obtained and developed |
| 07:44.21 | Aiiane | time, unfortunately, is finite |
| 07:44.46 | Aiiane | have you read PiL? |
| 07:45.11 | Giomancer | I browse through it, but I haven't read it straight through. |
| 07:45.57 | Aiiane | It's actually not that bad to read through, at least the parts concerning Lua itself |
| 07:46.11 | Aiiane | you don't need to read through the C API portion for WAR stuff |
| 07:46.22 | Daegalus | teaches you how to take pils properly |
| 07:46.29 | Aiiane | ~lart Daegalus |
| 07:46.30 | purl | squeezes Daegalus till Daegalus turns blue like papa smurf |
| 07:46.49 | Daegalus | thats not so bad of a lart |
| 07:49.08 | Aiiane | I don't think WAR lua allows coroutines either, though I might be mistaken |
| 07:50.14 | Aiiane | but chapters 1-20 of PiL, skipping 9, are good :) |
| 07:50.18 | Giomancer | lol |
| 07:51.41 | Aiiane | http://www.lua.org/gems/sample.pdf is also a very insightful read |
| 07:52.09 | Aiiane | though some parts of it are more advanced |
| 07:54.38 | Aiiane | but some of it is fairly easy to grasp useful tidbits from |
| 07:54.45 | Aiiane | such as the fact that string comparison in Lua is *not* slow |
| 07:54.48 | Giomancer | uh oh |
| 07:54.52 | Giomancer | I lost my ideas |
| 07:54.56 | Giomancer | XD |
| 07:54.59 | Aiiane | lol |
| 07:55.16 | Giomancer | How do I unclone something? |
| 07:55.22 | Giomancer | Like delete my clone? |
| 07:55.31 | Giomancer | Is it in the dropdown? |
| 07:56.23 | Aiiane | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/z5thactionbar/repositories/advbar-rowan/ <-- that what you want to get rid of? |
| 07:57.15 | Giomancer | There we go, it goned |
| 07:57.22 | Giomancer | XD |
| 07:58.09 | Giomancer | I may look at it again in a bit, tho |
| 07:58.25 | Giomancer | Just.. I dunno. |
| 07:58.32 | Giomancer | Second thoughts, I guess. |
| 07:59.37 | Aiiane | sleepytime, nini~ |
| 07:59.40 | Giomancer | aww |
| 07:59.45 | Giomancer | Okies, night. :) |
| 07:59.51 | Alocer | Sent you my Squared setup, Aiiane |
| 07:59.56 | Alocer | g'nite |
| 08:01.59 | Giomancer | So.. I was thinking. |
| 08:02.32 | Giomancer | Making an integrated UI mod isn't actually that great of an idea. |
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| 08:10.00 | Alocer | Sounds like it would be a pain |
| 08:10.34 | Giomancer | It is kinda |
| 08:10.41 | Giomancer | Fun, but painful. |
| 08:11.41 | Giomancer | I may try it again.. but not integrated into the existing UI. |
| 08:12.06 | Daegalus | hey Gio, can you C&P what you said, i dced right before you said it, and came back after |
| 08:12.27 | Giomancer | <Giomancer> Making an integrated UI mod isn't actually that great of an idea. |
| 08:12.54 | Daegalus | well i was gonna ask you what you meant by integrated |
| 08:13.21 | Giomancer | Well, I mean it would use the existing UI option interface |
| 08:13.32 | Giomancer | Instead of its own thing |
| 08:13.53 | Daegalus | oh |
| 08:14.27 | Giomancer | Though now that I think about it, it's not that bad of a concept.. I really should keep working on it. |
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| 08:19.47 | WikkiFizzle | Finally |
| 08:19.56 | WikkiFizzle | images uploaded |
| 08:20.00 | WikkiFizzle | main page done |
| 08:20.02 | WikkiFizzle | dev page done |
| 08:20.08 | WikkiFizzle | release notes done |
| 08:21.06 | Giomancer | Hey Wikki |
| 08:21.10 | WikkiFizzle | Hola Gio |
| 08:21.25 | Giomancer | Hm. |
| 08:23.42 | Valkea | pure update on my computer done ;) |
| 08:27.46 | Daegalus | 10 layer nachos done |
| 08:27.57 | Valkea | xD |
| 08:29.25 | Giomancer | lol |
| 08:29.39 | WikkiFizzle | hm..nachos |
| 08:31.49 | Valkea | the sun is shining here, time to sleep, see you ;) |
| 08:32.09 | WikkiFizzle | Night Val |
| 08:32.12 | WikkiFizzle | Im off too |
| 08:32.15 | WikkiFizzle | Yall have a good one |
| 08:32.19 | Valkea | ;) |
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| 08:32.24 | Daegalus | grr, I need alt suggestions. Something not too involved and quick to play |
| 08:33.42 | Alocer | I made a DoK for my first alt |
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| 08:35.15 | Daegalus | Dok is my main. |
| 08:36.42 | Daegalus | Hmm Marauder or Magus? |
| 08:37.12 | Alocer | Marauder seemed easy, but mine's only 12 |
| 08:37.15 | Alocer | Haven't tried Magus |
| 08:37.30 | Daegalus | i have a 13 magus, i either continue him, or make a marauder |
| 08:37.42 | Alocer | I'd go Squig or Sorc |
| 08:37.54 | Daegalus | got those too :P |
| 08:37.58 | Alocer | Oh hehe |
| 08:38.01 | Daegalus | squig, the pet annoys me |
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| 08:38.08 | Daegalus | and is very flaky |
| 08:38.16 | Alocer | My main is a Chosen, and Keeps can get boring |
| 08:38.21 | Daegalus | Sorc, in PVE i do too much dmg ot myself to survive anything |
| 08:38.33 | Alocer | Even with the 1.1 changes? |
| 08:38.55 | Daegalus | yup. if i get more than 1 mob on me, im usually screwed unless i got some lucky crits |
| 08:38.56 | Alocer | I was purposely trying to kill myself at level 11 and it wasn't happening easily :p |
| 08:39.26 | Daegalus | killing yourself is easy |
| 08:39.30 | Daegalus | just spam your PBAoE |
| 08:39.33 | Alocer | You know if you go Magus you need to spec for rift :p |
| 08:39.36 | Alocer | Yeah I tried that |
| 08:39.47 | Daegalus | no i dont,screw rift, im going changing |
| 08:39.56 | Alocer | Take one for the team! |
| 08:40.28 | Alocer | aoe with marauder sounds fun |
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| 10:07.14 | Giomancer | What does it mean if my window inherits something? |
| 10:07.38 | Alocer | Then it has the same stuff as what it inherits |
| 10:07.45 | Giomancer | ah |
| 10:07.48 | Alocer | Size, EventHandlers, parameters |
| 10:07.49 | Alocer | and the likes |
| 10:08.21 | Alocer | But it has to inherit from the same type of XML object (basically... I think) |
| 10:09.09 | Alocer | But one thing to note, if you inherit EventHandlers and add your own after inheriting, then the inherited ones are ignored |
| 10:10.20 | Giomancer | hm |
| 10:10.46 | Giomancer | Will it inherit the window name also? |
| 10:10.52 | Alocer | No |
| 10:10.58 | Alocer | Each object always has its own name |
| 10:11.41 | Alocer | I'm not sure how it'd be helpful anyways, but I'm tired :p |
| 10:11.48 | Giomancer | Well |
| 10:12.19 | Giomancer | I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is that I need to change, the template or the other one |
| 10:13.51 | Alocer | One thing that might make it easier (helped me once) was to find the code that it is inheriting, and just add it to the object and remove the inherit, to see it all in once place together |
| 10:14.48 | Giomancer | Well, I am looking at the inherited code. However, I don't know if I can do that, exactly. |
| 10:15.11 | Giomancer | Part of the problem I am having is that the window names do not match up. |
| 10:15.35 | Giomancer | CustomizeUiWindowOptionsScrollChildActionBarsHeader |
| 10:15.36 | Alocer | You know how $parent works in the name? |
| 10:16.06 | Giomancer | From what I've observed it appends the parent name to the name you add |
| 10:16.11 | Daegalus | takes the name of the parent element and appends whatever you add to it |
| 10:16.27 | Alocer | Yeah, prepends though? |
| 10:16.32 | Alocer | Is that a word? |
| 10:16.43 | Daegalus | so if your parent is named "BLAHBLAHBLAH" and you do $parentNOYOU, it will become "BLAHBLAHBLAHNOYOU |
| 10:16.48 | Daegalus | yes it is |
| 10:16.56 | Alocer | Exactly |
| 10:17.06 | Giomancer | Ok, so, try and follow me a bit |
| 10:17.10 | Alocer | Sure |
| 10:17.34 | Giomancer | CustomizeUiWindowOptionsScrollChildActionBarsHeaderText |
| 10:17.43 | Giomancer | That is the name of the window |
| 10:17.49 | Giomancer | *however* |
| 10:18.13 | Alocer | Which mythic xml file are you looking at? |
| 10:18.13 | Giomancer | The "OptionsScrollChild" part doesn't appear in the template |
| 10:18.42 | Giomancer | ea_customizeuioptions.xml and the template file also |
| 10:18.55 | Giomancer | ea_customizeuiwindow.xml and the template file also |
| 10:19.10 | Giomancer | or w/e |
| 10:19.13 | Giomancer | I fail |
| 10:19.20 | Giomancer | But hopefully you get the idea |
| 10:19.22 | Alocer | Lemme take a look |
| 10:19.46 | Alocer | I'll walk you through it |
| 10:19.55 | Alocer | This is the customizeuiwindow.xml |
| 10:20.18 | Alocer | Line 11 is the parent window "CustomizeUiWindow" |
| 10:20.51 | Alocer | Line 85 is the child window "$parentOptions", which translates to "CustomizeUiWindowOptions" |
| 10:20.54 | Giomancer | My issue is that in the template.xml section it describes the subparts of that window, down to the button labels |
| 10:20.59 | Giomancer | Al |
| 10:21.01 | Giomancer | I know |
| 10:21.14 | Giomancer | I can see how it gets the name THERE |
| 10:21.16 | Giomancer | BUT |
| 10:21.26 | Alocer | So it's just the template/inherit you don't get |
| 10:21.43 | Giomancer | In the templates window it describes the parts of the window |
| 10:21.58 | Alocer | Yeah |
| 10:22.22 | Giomancer | And in the lua it uses the names as if the templates section was inside the inherited section |
| 10:23.10 | Alocer | customizeuiwindow.lua right? |
| 10:23.16 | Giomancer | Yes |
| 10:23.49 | Alocer | So like line 160, or a different one? |
| 10:24.11 | Giomancer | 288 |
| 10:24.27 | Giomancer | And 292 |
| 10:24.46 | Alocer | Okay lemme start with 288 |
| 10:24.51 | Giomancer | Though to get a better idea |
| 10:25.43 | Alocer | "CustomizeUiWindowOptionsScrollChildActionBarsHeader" is the window in the lua |
| 10:26.09 | Giomancer | line 294 labels an element defined in the template but named as if it was in the other xml |
| 10:26.16 | Alocer | If you look at the customizeuiwindow.xml, you can follow it all the way to "CustomizeUiWindowOptionsScrollChildActionBars" |
| 10:26.34 | Giomancer | Yes. I know. That's not the problem. |
| 10:26.44 | Giomancer | I HAVE followed it that far. |
| 10:26.55 | Alocer | So it's inheriting CustomizeUiActionBarSettings, in the template xml |
| 10:27.06 | Alocer | Which has it's own objects |
| 10:27.13 | Giomancer | Right, but you said names weren't inherited. |
| 10:27.14 | Alocer | Inheriting includes those objects |
| 10:27.22 | Alocer | No the parent name |
| 10:27.25 | Alocer | child objects are inherited |
| 10:27.31 | Alocer | not the parent name I mean |
| 10:28.03 | Alocer | Those are seperate child windows, header and body |
| 10:28.06 | Giomancer | <Giomancer> What does it mean if my window inherits something? |
| 10:28.22 | Alocer | yeah, I remember you asking |
| 10:28.52 | Alocer | You asked if they inherited names, they don't, but they inherit the objects inside the name of the window it's inheriting from |
| 10:32.24 | Giomancer | So, inheriting means that the thing being ihnerited is treated and being inside the thing inheriting it. |
| 10:33.29 | Alocer | It inherits the child windows |
| 10:34.43 | Alocer | So if you were inheriting "CustomizeUiActionBarSettings" |
| 10:35.39 | Alocer | Then it would be the same as taking the <windows> definitions inside "CustomizeUiActionBarSettings" and putting them in the <windows> in what is doing the inheriting |
| 10:36.06 | Giomancer | So, inheriting means that the thing being ihnerited is treated as being inside the thing inheriting it. |
| 10:36.17 | Giomancer | That's what I said. :P |
| 10:36.25 | Alocer | Yeah, it's a copy |
| 10:36.39 | Giomancer | Okay. |
| 10:36.58 | Giomancer | Now what you said earlier about combining them makes sense. |
| 10:37.21 | Giomancer | So yay, ty |
| 10:37.40 | Alocer | Sorry for the confusion, I'm an awful teacher. When you first asked about inheriting names, I thought you meant the parent name, because you also inherit things like handleinput, layer, popable, etc |
| 10:37.58 | Giomancer | And I might have meant it at the time. :P |
| 10:38.10 | Alocer | Hehe |
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| 10:41.46 | Giomancer | Now if I wrote my own XML instead of modifying the default one |
| 10:42.27 | art3mis | http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff220/badcompany89/yodawg.jpg |
| 10:42.33 | Giomancer | Can I replace a default window with my own? |
| 10:42.52 | Giomancer | ~lart3mis |
| 10:42.53 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 10:43.06 | Giomancer | XD |
| 10:44.16 | Alocer | I've never tried replacing a default window |
| 10:44.37 | Alocer | I think you'd have to unhook it, or something... |
| 10:46.42 | Alocer | I should get a few hours of sleep though, good luck |
| 10:46.49 | Giomancer | lol, kk, night. :) |
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| 14:43.19 | tronned | ~lart WikkiFizzle |
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| 15:14.53 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki * r76 Source (6 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:14.57 | Repo | Fixed an issue with the Player Pet Unit Frame staying displayed after using the layout editor. |
| 15:15.01 | Repo | Fixed an issue with the Player Pet Target Unit Frame staying displayed after using the layout editor. |
| 15:15.04 | Repo | Changed the default location of the Group Pet window. |
| 15:15.10 | Repo | Changed the spacing between the hostile UF and player UF, as well as the friendly UF and hostile UF. |
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| 15:19.20 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki 040.6.1-beta * r77 : Tagging as 0.6.1-beta |
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| 15:47.51 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki * r78 Source/PureGroupPet.xml: |
| 15:47.54 | Repo | Removed the EventHandlers from the Group Pet unit frame as they are not needed. |
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| 15:58.24 | Valkea | hello |
| 16:13.03 | Repo | New project: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/lootfilter/. Loot Filter. Mulesh (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 16:19.31 | MoronWar | Valkea, i thought of another idea for DK |
| 16:20.19 | Valkea | yes ? :) |
| 16:21.12 | MoronWar | I know it isnt' as easy as I hoped (I looked through the code), but we should make custom textures on people's pages of the actual person. |
| 16:21.36 | Flarin | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/auctionator.aspx for War would be sooooo useful hint hint ;) |
| 16:21.38 | MoronWar | So i can submit my picture and then when people go to my page of the tome, they see me instead of the generic class picture |
| 16:22.13 | MoronWar | By my picture, i mean a picture I submit. So we make a big database of people's pics and such to attach to their tome pages. |
| 16:22.38 | MoronWar | It is close to another idea I had, that when you kill me in rvr a little frame of my picture appears over the dead body with a middle finger. |
| 16:22.49 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 16:23.28 | Valkea | humm well currently as far as i know there is no way to comunicate between the both factions. So the only one solution would be to pre-download all submited profils to a specific website : / |
| 16:23.38 | Valkea | and this is not a good one hehe |
| 16:24.07 | MoronWar | Valkea, well, how about this, you get it so it loads the custom texture in the right place, I'll make the mod and have people submit pictures with names and have that into another mod |
| 16:24.13 | MoronWar | So your mod isn't updated weekly with just picture updates. |
| 16:26.00 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki * r79 / (4 files in 2 directories): Small fix to the player buff handling within a group. |
| 16:26.00 | Repo | Added 2 text displays to the Profiles and About Pure configuration dialogs. |
| 16:26.00 | Valkea | well if you create the dependency, i have no objection about this. I can handle the functions you need to setup your pictures instead of the default one |
| 16:26.02 | MoronWar | I can do the leg work of asking for pictures, making sure they aren't bad, converting to .dds adding to .xml and adding to a .lau. So you just need to have DK check to see if the picture addon is installed ? |
| 16:26.06 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki 040.6.2-beta * r80 : Tagging as 0.6.2-beta |
| 16:26.35 | MoronWar | That is what I need help with. |
| 16:26.58 | MoronWar | The linking into your addon, that I have no clue how to do :( |
| 16:27.04 | Valkea | no problem about that |
| 16:27.17 | Valkea | i can make DK check for optional dependency |
| 16:27.43 | Valkea | and if your is present, then DK will try to use your pictures |
| 16:28.16 | MoronWar | That is exactly what I would like, I can just keep updating the db :) |
| 16:28.30 | Valkea | i will make the links to your addon, do not worry |
| 16:28.55 | MoronWar | Do we have to worry about screen resolutions? Or is the tome pic the same size each time? |
| 16:29.12 | Valkea | if the dependency is installed then i try to call a function to your addon to know is a picture exist for this user |
| 16:29.23 | Valkea | if it do not then i display the default picture |
| 16:29.43 | Valkea | else you send me back the custom picture texture ;) |
| 16:30.01 | Valkea | no |
| 16:30.04 | MoronWar | I can send the asset's name? |
| 16:30.16 | MoronWar | hold on, brb, i'm at work. |
| 16:30.20 | Valkea | ;) |
| 16:32.21 | MoronWar | Ok, coworkers gone :) |
| 16:33.22 | MoronWar | So do you like this idea? |
| 16:34.05 | Valkea | could be fun yes, but your main problem will be the size of the folder with DDS textures. |
| 16:34.36 | Valkea | my DK is almost 2500 enemies |
| 16:34.42 | MoronWar | It would probably win in a biggest size contest :) |
| 16:34.51 | Valkea | and i do not fight that much |
| 16:35.10 | MoronWar | Well, if it takes off, then we can make an addon per server? |
| 16:35.36 | MoronWar | It might be my ugly mug is the only thing in it for a long time :) |
| 16:35.36 | Valkea | if 10% of DK users use your depency, that mean that i would have to load 250 dds |
| 16:36.19 | MoronWar | 250 per side per server :) |
| 16:36.33 | Valkea | yes. you will have to be very carefull of the "ko" |
| 16:36.49 | MoronWar | But how do we know the limit without reaching it? |
| 16:37.58 | Valkea | well, i guess the limit is the limit of the good senses ;) |
| 16:38.44 | Valkea | do not forget than we can scale the textures |
| 16:39.03 | Valkea | so you can provide them as small pictures, not as bigger as in the TOK |
| 16:39.38 | Valkea | the DK currently scale them for 1.5 |
| 16:39.49 | MoronWar | Ok. |
| 16:40.36 | MoronWar | I'm going to start messing with custom textures this weekend, I will let you know what I come up with. |
| 16:40.56 | MoronWar | I wouldn't worry about adding anything to DK yet about these, I might lose all my time soon, I start my MBA on monday. |
| 16:41.12 | MoronWar | But, I would worry about adding Vs Career tables to DK :) |
| 16:42.14 | Valkea | hehe i will ;) |
| 16:42.54 | Valkea | probably as a filter window, with checkbox options to choose witch career(s) you want to keep in the list |
| 16:43.31 | Valkea | so if you check only Bright Wizzard in the Open RvR part, you will get the Bright Wizard list for Open RvR fights |
| 16:43.56 | MoronWar | Ahhh, ok. that will work :) |
| 16:44.49 | Valkea | this way, you can also see a list with 2 ou 3 or 4 etc. careers |
| 16:45.30 | MoronWar | Ya, that would be fun also. |
| 16:46.26 | Valkea | i'm not yet decided for the next feature. List filters, or Dangerous opponant alert system. |
| 16:46.47 | MoronWar | Bah, I never liked the dangerious opponent features of the other ones, so you know my vote :) |
| 16:47.01 | Valkea | hehe |
| 16:47.02 | MoronWar | I really don't like them, cause i can't spell the word dangerous |
| 16:47.33 | Valkea | ;) |
| 16:48.18 | Thrae | "Dangerous Opponent! Witch Elf #1, Witch Elf #2, Witch Elf #3, Witch Elf #4..." |
| 16:49.02 | Valkea | xD |
| 16:50.11 | Valkea | currently for me this is more "Magus #1, Magus #2, Magus #3, Magus #4" |
| 16:50.18 | Thrae | Honestly who gets the KB generally doesn't matter. You'd have to factor in damage within time to KB to get who *really* instrumented your death. Which would usually be a Witch Elf if you're a squishy ;) |
| 16:50.38 | Thrae | Magus? They're just annoying to me as a RP, except for Chaotic Rift |
| 16:51.02 | Valkea | Well i currenly play WH |
| 16:51.09 | MoronWar | I love Magus, they don't stand up for more than 3 secs with my WL :) |
| 16:51.31 | Thrae | Yeah, Magus can have some nice health and have that Ret. aura. |
| 16:51.38 | Valkea | ;) |
| 16:52.12 | Thrae | They have decent health compared to Engineer, the Ret. Aura, and can still dish out a decent amount of ranged damage. But as a RP, it's not a big concern since their damage isn't nearly as spikey. |
| 17:05.14 | Thurwell | Magus don't have any healing debuff spells like a BW or marauder |
| 17:05.45 | Thurwell | Depending on how they're specced tho, they can do alot of spike damage |
| 17:13.10 | Valkea | oh damn i need to find somewhere else to live in... living in France is boring as hell, even in Paris >< Do you know a nice place to live with sun, nice peoples and fun multimedia dev work ? xD... |
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| 17:30.29 | MoronWar | Stay away from Ohio if that is what you would like. |
| 17:30.35 | MoronWar | Ohio, USA. |
| 17:33.20 | Thurwell | It's been very sunny here this week. Course that why the high was -10F yesterday, no clouds to hold in the heat |
| 17:34.41 | Thurwell | coupla years ago I was in nasau, which is an island at the end of the florida keys. Some guy was sitting on the beach with a coupla yamaha jetskis, which you could rent for like 75 bucks an hour |
| 17:35.07 | Thurwell | And I got to thinking...I don't know anyone where I live, not attached to my job, have enough savings to buy 6 or 7 of those things.... |
| 17:38.03 | Thurwell | I didn't, but it's curious to think that really you have hundreds of options of where to live and what to do, and a lot of them really wouldn't be that hard to set up |
| 17:56.32 | Valkea | no that easy to leave the place you live in ;) Anyway, I guess Australia or New Zeland could be cool to live in. |
| 17:58.47 | Thurwell | Travelling's fun, but I don't have any desire to live outside the States. Except that it's expensive to live here |
| 17:59.01 | Aiiane | dont go to europe then |
| 17:59.34 | Thurwell | true, but I was thinking of those stories you hear about retirees retiring to little countries you've never heard of and living on the beach for practically nothing |
| 17:59.53 | Valkea | that's what i need ;) |
| 18:01.06 | Thurwell | Another way out of the rat race quick is get some job where you work way too much and have no expenses (army, oil field, merchant marine, etc), save up for a coupla years and then basically retire |
| 18:02.20 | tronned | the military is a rat race, still. |
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| 18:05.47 | Valkea | http://www.islandreefjob.com ;) |
| 18:09.41 | Aiiane | lol |
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| 18:40.53 | Thurwell | is that that crazy australian job |
| 18:41.47 | Thurwell | i read somewhere that they have hundreds of thousands of applications for that job, crashed the wite |
| 18:41.50 | Thurwell | site |
| 18:42.18 | Thurwell | Hmm. where's my resume now |
| 18:42.29 | Aiiane | over there ---> |
| 18:44.31 | Thrae | http://consumerist.com/5128068/hasbro-casts-spell-of-greater-invisibility-over-dd-cancellation-page <-- Of all Consumerist titles, this makes my inner geek/nerd snuckle. |
| 18:45.57 | Thurwell | snuckle |
| 18:46.33 | Thrae | snort+chuckle, obviously. |
| 18:46.41 | Thurwell | But I bet if you want that easy island life you can set it up with a little in savings. Rent boats, take people on dive tours, buy a tiki bar...lots of stuff you could do |
| 18:48.32 | Thurwell | pick somewhere the cruise ships stop. They're basically stop, dump off a bunch of money, and then move on |
| 18:53.43 | Thurwell | Have to upload a video. Maybe that's why it crashed, be hard to do with just a form |
| 19:20.06 | Thrae | OK, I must finally say it -- one way WAR seriously fails in comparison to WoW is that it doesn't understand the standards of permissions and where a GAME should be installed per standards that have been in effect in most operating systems for years, yet finally adopted in Vista (there's a reason UAC pops up -- GAMES SHOULDN'T GO THERE.) Windows 7 gives you the same UAC pop-up. |
| 19:20.47 | Thrae | However, I do note that it does not generally matter where WAR is installed, but the default location should be smart enough to install itself somewhere else on Vista and higher. |
| 19:21.17 | Aiiane | well technically, games *should* go there, they just shouldn't write their settings there |
| 19:22.30 | Thrae | Aiiane: I would equate Program Files to /bin and /sbin, where games are generally placed in /usr/local/bin. But at the very least, the settings should be someplace else of course. |
| 19:23.01 | Aiiane | windows doesn't have a direct equivalent to /usr/local/bin |
| 19:24.00 | Aiiane | in fact, it doesn't really have a /usr equivalent |
| 19:24.04 | Aiiane | more just a home directory |
| 19:24.19 | Aiiane | if anything, C:\Windows is /sbin |
| 19:24.25 | Aiiane | and Program Files is /bin |
| 19:25.07 | Thrae | Aiiane: %SystemRoot%\Users\Public even sounds like /usr/local to me, which is where some applications are now finally installing themselves to. |
| 19:25.51 | Aiiane | Windows doesn't intend that to be a programs folder though |
| 19:25.58 | Aiiane | if you look at the default directories created there |
| 19:26.17 | Thrae | But you're right, there's no standard on where to install if you use \Users\Public, so you could do \Users\Public\YourApp or \Users\Public\Games\YourGame, \Users\Public\Apps\YourApp, etc. |
| 19:26.19 | Aiiane | It's Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos, and Desktop |
| 19:26.56 | Aiiane | and what's the point of installing into \Users\Public? |
| 19:27.18 | Thrae | All users have read and write permissions for Users\Public. |
| 19:27.25 | Aiiane | That doesn't actually accomplish anything different from installing into Program Files, aside from ignoring the actual reason to restrict program files in the first place |
| 19:27.33 | Thrae | Well, full permissions. |
| 19:27.46 | Aiiane | that's the thing though |
| 19:27.56 | Aiiane | on a gamer's system, they're typically an administrator |
| 19:28.05 | Aiiane | and if they're not, there's generally a good reason why they're not |
| 19:28.40 | Thrae | Hmm, I was thinking "Senior Admin". Let me check if LUA has write access... |
| 19:29.14 | Aiiane | the point is that user-specific data should be stored separately from administrator-installed programs |
| 19:29.31 | Aiiane | which is why programs belong in program files, and user-specific data belongs in %APPDATA% |
| 19:29.37 | Thrae | LUA does not have write access to Users\Public |
| 19:30.29 | Aiiane | which lua |
| 19:30.32 | Thrae | Note LUA ~= Lua |
| 19:31.14 | Thrae | Limited-access User Account, known in Microsoft circles as LUA (first time I encountered an ancronym of L.U.A.). |
| 19:31.23 | Aiiane | heh |
| 19:31.53 | Thrae | krka's script was smart enough not to penalize me for saying LUA. |
| 19:32.07 | Aiiane | krka isnt in this channel? |
| 19:32.18 | Thrae | I said it in #lua. |
| 19:32.22 | Aiiane | ah. |
| 19:32.34 | Thrae | I was talking about Lua with LUA. |
| 19:32.39 | Aiiane | lol :P |
| 19:33.05 | Alocer | Anyone happen to know off the top of their head if you keep the player you kill targeted when they die, and/or if you target your killer on death? |
| 19:33.39 | Aiiane | former I believe yes, latter I believe no |
| 19:33.44 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki * r81 Configuration/PureConfig_GroupPet.lua: |
| 19:33.48 | Repo | Minor size changes to the windows that make up the Group Pet config. |
| 19:33.52 | Repo | Changed enable unit frame text to the appropriate text. |
| 19:34.19 | Thrae | Alocer: You're not suppose to auto-target dead players, but it easily happens when the server interprets events where a player attacks you after they die (and/or from DoTs), so that can happen. |
| 19:34.44 | Thrae | Auto-target when you have your target cleared, of course. |
| 19:35.58 | Thrae | Aiiane: So what about when settings are intended to be shared by all users for convenience purposes? There must be a new path for Vista and 7. |
| 19:37.47 | Aiiane | C:\ProgramData |
| 19:37.52 | Aiiane | hidden folder in vista |
| 19:38.50 | Aiiane | that's actually probably the closest equivalent to /usr/local |
| 19:40.01 | Alocer | So it's not actually keeping the player targeted, rather retargeting them? |
| 19:40.08 | Thrae | Aiiane: Yeah I just Googled it. CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA is the actual flag to ask the kernel where to put it, but you need to know how to use ProgramData. Of course, the existance of Users\Public, ProgramData, Program Files (files aren't data?), etc. is something I detest after long ago seeing how other operating systems seem to make naming conventions easy in some cases. |
| 19:40.38 | Thrae | Alocer: What do you mean "keeping the player targeted"? It will only auto-target if you have no target. |
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| 19:41.00 | MoronWar | I had graduate offices, why can't they do anything correctly. grr. |
| 19:41.10 | Aiiane | lol |
| 19:41.39 | MoronWar | I was on a waiting list for a class, my first graduate class. It was suppose to start last week. Never heard anything, thought I didn't get in. |
| 19:41.48 | MoronWar | I log into their network yesterday, found out I owe money |
| 19:41.59 | MoronWar | Cause I'm in a new section they just started. They didn't tell me. No email, no calls. |
| 19:42.05 | MoronWar | The class could of started and went by without me knowing. |
| 19:42.21 | MoronWar | So I pay the bill yesterday, and today, i get an email asking me if i want to be in the class. |
| 19:42.24 | Thrae | MoronWar: I've found it's better to assume you get into a class and just show up the 1st day until the prof. / assistant tells you to leave. |
| 19:42.44 | MoronWar | This is an Online course, so, I did show up on the internet that day, just in the porn section. |
| 19:42.58 | Thrae | Ah, that's trickier. |
| 19:43.00 | MoronWar | The prof was there also. |
| 19:45.18 | MoronWar | I'm going to get my MBA and work my way into middle management. Yay! |
| 19:54.53 | Thurwell | could always use that mba to get a small business loan... |
| 20:03.04 | MoronWar | I've thought about that. I actually started a business plan for something I would like to make. |
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| 20:17.50 | Giomancer | rawr! |
| 20:19.06 | Thurwell | business plan: caribbean dive shop. The skiing will be crappy |
| 20:19.23 | Giomancer | huh? |
| 20:19.26 | Giomancer | Random |
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| 20:20.21 | Thurwell | you walk into the middle of a conversation and then complain you don't know what it's about? |
| 20:20.30 | Giomancer | Always |
| 20:21.04 | Thurwell | dont |
| 20:21.11 | Giomancer | :( |
| 20:21.19 | Valkea | hehe |
| 20:22.18 | Giomancer | How do I know how big a window should be? |
| 20:22.26 | Thurwell | lua> A = {"A", "B", "C"}; for k,v in pairs(A) do print(v) end |
| 20:22.26 | lua_bot | Thurwell: A, B, C |
| 20:22.32 | Thurwell | lua> A = {"A", "B", "C"}; for k,v in pairs(A) do print(k) end |
| 20:22.33 | lua_bot | Thurwell: 1, 2, 3 |
| 20:22.39 | Thurwell | Hmm. well that's what I thought |
| 20:22.55 | ckknight | use ipairs |
| 20:23.16 | Thurwell | could, has no affec ton what I'm donig |
| 20:26.40 | Thurwell | Hmm. Although I think i'm going to make some changes that does make ipairs necesary |
| 20:29.27 | Giomancer | Or what happens if I don't declare the size of the window? |
| 20:30.44 | Thurwell | I dunno, 0,0 probably |
| 20:44.35 | tronned | I'm so glad it's Friday. |
| 20:47.30 | Aiiane | depends on if you're inheriting from another window or not, Giomancer. |
| 20:47.44 | Aiiane | if you're inheriting, it'll default to the same size as what you're inheriting from |
| 20:47.52 | Aiiane | if you're not, it'll default to 0 by 0 |
| 20:47.52 | Giomancer | aah |
| 20:48.28 | Aiiane | of course, some templates themselves dont specify a size |
| 20:49.16 | Giomancer | Well, the parent window does indeed have a size |
| 20:49.19 | Thrae | 1 / NUMBER_OF_ARCHMAGES_WHO_SURVIVE_A_WITCH_ELF == crash! |
| 20:49.41 | Giomancer | Of course, divide by zero. :P |
| 20:50.00 | Thrae | I'm reporting this. |
| 20:50.31 | Giomancer | Anyhow, yes, the parent window has a size. |
| 20:52.13 | Giomancer | I'm still messing with the customize UI window, the action bars subwindow. |
| 20:53.01 | Giomancer | What I'm trying to do is add a new "window" to it so that I can add a label there. |
| 20:54.51 | Giomancer | I'm following the model of the "Layout Mode" window, I'm just now sure of the size and anchor points. |
| 20:54.57 | Giomancer | not* |
| 20:55.37 | Giomancer | And I'm still getting a kinda queasy feeling just overwriting the window. |
| 20:55.55 | Giomancer | It seems very vulgar to me. :P |
| 20:59.27 | Giomancer | Aiiane, at what point does a mod get removed from the Curse client, if ever? |
| 21:01.23 | Aiiane | removed from the list of available mods, or from the list of installed mods? |
| 21:01.42 | Giomancer | Available mods |
| 21:02.18 | Aiiane | if the project is abandoned or deleted; or if all of the files are deleted, I believe |
| 21:02.53 | Alocer | Oh geeze sorry Thrae forgot I asked that question |
| 21:03.22 | Giomancer | Well, Adv ActionBar Options is very abandoned; it says so right on the cover. :P |
| 21:03.37 | Alocer | I just could've sworn that when I kill a player, if I'm not taking damage from anyone, that I still have that player's corpse targeted |
| 21:04.12 | Valkea | well send an email to the author to request for the control of if ;) |
| 21:04.14 | Thrae | Alocer: Yes, there's no de-targeting unless you remove the target yourself. |
| 21:04.22 | Alocer | Thanks |
| 21:05.51 | Giomancer | Actually, now that I think of it there are a few addons that are abandoned and are little more than placeholders, or have been superceded by their own authors. |
| 21:06.47 | Giomancer | For example, TalismanWillard is still in the Curse client, but the author, who is still active, has superceded it with the CraftingWillard mod. |
| 21:08.11 | tronned | ~poke Aiiane |
| 21:08.11 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Aiiane, pokes Aiiane repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 21:08.39 | Valkea | well there is an option to abandon a project on curseforge, so curseforge can't do anything more |
| 21:11.12 | Giomancer | Well, there is the six month autoabandoned rule. |
| 21:11.19 | Giomancer | :P |
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| 21:57.12 | Alocer | It's possible to check if a chat filter is on/off and toggle it during initialize, right? |
| 21:58.43 | Aiiane | I'd wait until you know savedvars are loaded |
| 22:01.16 | Alocer | Oh darn, I'll have to register another event just to turn off the Your Kills filter then, maybe I'll just put a note to turn it off... |
| 22:01.40 | Alocer | Because you mean Mythic's, not mine, right? |
| 22:01.55 | Alocer | Although I do have the chat window as a dependency |
| 22:01.59 | Alocer | If that would make a difference |
| 22:03.30 | Alocer | Originally I thought I might have to toggle filters, but basically I just need to turn off Your Kills if it's on |
| 22:03.34 | Aiiane | hm. i think its savedvars should be loaded by the time your mod loads |
| 22:03.38 | Aiiane | not 100% sure though; try it |
| 22:03.49 | Alocer | Will do, thanks |
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| 22:30.57 | Aiiane | out for the evening, bbl |
| 22:32.09 | Giomancer | Byee! :) |
| 22:55.31 | Giomancer | encaitar? |
| 22:57.01 | Thurwell_ | lua> classification = { selfhostiletarget = 3, selfriendlytarget = 4 };print(classification[selfhostiletarget]) |
| 22:57.01 | lua_bot | Thurwell_: nil |
| 22:57.09 | Thurwell_ | lua> classification = { selfhostiletarget = 3, selfriendlytarget = 4 };print(classification["selfhostiletarget"]) |
| 22:57.09 | lua_bot | Thurwell_: 3 |
| 22:57.57 | Thurwell_ | lua> classification = { selfhostiletarget = 3, selfriendlytarget = 4 };targetClassification="selfthostiletarget";print(classification[targetClassification]) |
| 22:57.57 | lua_bot | Thurwell_: nil |
| 22:58.43 | Thurwell_ | lua> classification = { selfhostiletarget = 3, selfriendlytarget = 4 };targetClassification="selfhostiletarget";print(classification[targetClassification]) |
| 22:58.44 | lua_bot | Thurwell_: 3 |
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| 23:03.10 | Thurwell_ | oh, two ffs in selffriendly |
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| 23:59.43 | Repo | New project: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/adv-aboptions/. Advanced Action Bar Options. Giomancer (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
