| 00:07.52 | Repo | 10rcg: 03Bloodwalker * r13 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added tag Beta v0.3.1 for changeset ca0ed2819722 |
| 00:07.56 | Repo | Version Number Incr |
| 00:07.59 | Repo | meant to move to 0.3 |
| 00:14.45 | Daegalus | woah, i dunno what happened, but my game is now running at 40-60 fps on max settings O.o |
| 00:15.12 | encaitar2 | Is that better or worse? |
| 00:15.35 | Daegalus | well better, i used to be 20-30 fps, and i have 0 stuttering atm |
| 00:15.50 | Daegalus | its a steady 40-60, no drops below 40 ever |
| 00:17.13 | gutgut | hmm aiiane the localisation-pages are producing 500 Fatal errors fe http://war.curseforge.com/projects/dammazkron/localization/deDE/?untranslated --> save |
| 00:19.01 | gutgut | but when i click around sometimes it works properly |
| 00:21.32 | Aiiane | talk to ckknight, gutgut |
| 00:21.34 | Aiiane | its his baby |
| 00:21.48 | gutgut | :p ok |
| 00:22.06 | ckknight | eep |
| 00:22.11 | ckknight | I'll check it out, gutgut |
| 00:22.50 | gutgut | kk another example --> http://war.curseforge.com/projects/dammazkron/localization/deDE/?page=4 -> change something --> save --> Fatal err |
| 00:24.18 | Repo | 10pure: 03wikki * r54 Source (3 files in 1 directory): Removed the old group-show setting as its no longer needed. |
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| 00:36.38 | Daegalus | ok, im confused on how i can import localizations to the Curseforge localization thing |
| 00:37.09 | Daegalus | unless my localization format is weird |
| 00:38.29 | Daegalus | http://waruidev.pastey.net/105555 this is how i currently have it |
| 00:46.09 | Aiiane | the import tool doesn't handle integer-indexed tables, Daegalus |
| 00:46.19 | Daegalus | oh |
| 00:46.23 | Aiiane | it's designed for dictionaries |
| 00:46.48 | Aiiane | i.e. T["keyname"] = "translated text" |
| 00:47.04 | Aiiane | or { ["keyname"] = "translated text" } |
| 00:47.19 | Daegalus | eh, technically its easily fixable. i can just convert them all to be liek one= two= three = , etc. |
| 00:47.36 | Aiiane | sure. the keys wouldn't be very descriptive though |
| 00:48.13 | Daegalus | cant i edit those after the import? |
| 00:48.35 | Aiiane | maybe, but it'd probably be easier to edit them en masse before importing |
| 00:48.57 | Repo | 10pet-synergy: 03amirabiri2 * r13 / (16 files in 4 directories): Re-writing effort continues: |
| 00:49.01 | Repo | - About half of the UI components have been re-factored, cleaned up and documented. |
| 00:49.05 | Repo | - Only missing part is the action buttons. |
| 00:49.09 | Repo | - Configuration window and default pet action bar hooks done. |
| 00:49.50 | Repo | 10pet-synergy: 03amirabiri2 * r14 PetSynergyAbilitiesWindowButtons.lua: Moved. |
| 00:50.49 | Daegalus | true, ok ill do that later then. |
| 00:51.33 | Daegalus | there is a ace locale for WAR right? |
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| 00:55.24 | Aiiane | @project war/ace3 |
| 00:55.25 | Repo | Aiiane: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/ace3/. Ace3. Game: WAR. Kaelten (Manager/Author), pwerelds (Author), Aiiane (Author). Updated: 7 days ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
| 00:55.36 | Daegalus | ok, then ill just use that for Pouches |
| 01:08.13 | Repo | 10mapmonster: 03Bloodwalker * r68 Source/MapMonster_Calibrate.lua: ReORdered functions in calibration tool to save raw data as well |
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| 02:19.52 | Aiiane | if anyone wants to help out translating: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/squared/localization/ |
| 02:30.16 | Valkea | 155 Oo |
| 02:30.43 | Valkea | i will try a bit, but not 155 tonight hehe |
| 02:30.47 | Aiiane | most of them are pretty short |
| 02:30.55 | Aiiane | for instance, there's an entry for "left" :P |
| 02:31.05 | Aiiane | and yeah, no rush |
| 02:31.19 | Aiiane | nor do you have to feel like you have to translate *everything* for a language |
| 02:31.24 | Aiiane | just whatever you feel like helping with :) |
| 02:32.32 | Aiiane | on a side note, just to compare |
| 02:32.46 | Aiiane | pitbull4 currently has about 250+ translation entries :P |
| 02:33.16 | Valkea | xD |
| 02:36.29 | amirabiri2|away | Don't create infinite loops in lua in WAR... o.O |
| 02:36.48 | amirabiri2|away | I got to 1.1G mem usage before I was able to kill the process... |
| 02:36.58 | Aiiane | heh |
| 02:37.02 | amirabiri2|away | :-) |
| 02:37.07 | Aiiane | most of the time, it'll just CTD after a few seconds |
| 02:38.04 | amirabiri2|away | yeah I've noticed. |
| 02:38.19 | amirabiri2|away | but my simple while with no break condition did the trick... :-) |
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| 02:52.16 | Repo | 10squared: 03Aiiane * r160 / (2 files in 1 directory): Minor tweaks, make SquaredScenario check group slot numbers for ordering units in scenario groups. |
| 03:00.31 | Daegalus | Aiiane: Ill do a russian translation of Squared for you sometime soon |
| 03:00.41 | Aiiane | :) |
| 03:06.47 | Valkea | Aiiane: "HP text position:" give "Position des points de vie" but coulb also be "Position des HP" do you prefer the second one (shorter) or the first one (more usual) ? |
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| 03:58.07 | Unremarkable | Anyone know offhand if OnShutdown is called before or after variables are saved? |
| 04:02.48 | Bloodwalker | its unreliable for saving variables to file |
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| 04:53.29 | Valkea | Aiiane: what is the difference between "Indicator render delay:" and "Indicator update delay:" ? |
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| 05:03.16 | Valkea | Look like Aiiane is not a bot xD |
| 05:06.14 | ckknight | Jag känner en bot. |
| 05:06.15 | ckknight | Hon heter Anna. Anna heter hon. |
| 05:06.17 | ckknight | err |
| 05:06.22 | ckknight | I was gonna replace Anna with Aiiane |
| 05:07.19 | Valkea | hehe |
| 05:19.41 | Valkea | humm ckknight you know what could be really really usefull with the localization system ?* |
| 05:19.54 | ckknight | hookers? |
| 05:20.33 | Valkea | beeing able to edit submited translation >< I made some mistakes on Squared translation, and i can't edit them |
| 05:21.19 | Valkea | And then you will ask why the hell i have not checked the "Someone should review this translation" checkbox ;) |
| 05:21.38 | ckknight | you just make a new translation |
| 05:21.41 | ckknight | it'll replace your old one |
| 05:21.46 | Valkea | well because i was sure of the grammar, but after verification IG, i changed my mind |
| 05:22.33 | Valkea | forgot i could display all translation by clicking "French (frFR)' |
| 05:22.44 | Valkea | i was trying by using "Phrases" |
| 05:23.00 | Valkea | this way i can see translations, but not edit them ;) |
| 05:23.04 | Valkea | sorry |
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| 05:23.44 | Valkea | but access the translation via the "Phrases" section would be geat ;) |
| 05:29.45 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 05:30.01 | Valkea | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/squared/localization/phrases/7-ap-text-position/ |
| 05:30.07 | Valkea | from here |
| 05:30.27 | Valkea | would be great if we could edit from here |
| 05:31.09 | ckknight | eh, that'd be kinda complex |
| 05:31.10 | ckknight | though maybe |
| 05:31.12 | ckknight | ...file a ticket |
| 05:31.29 | Valkea | well just a click on the sentence to redirect to the edit page |
| 05:31.48 | ckknight | yea, that might do |
| 05:32.09 | Valkea | else we have to browse page per page to find the translation to change |
| 05:32.18 | Aiiane | btw Valkea |
| 05:32.26 | Aiiane | render delay = how often the display is updated |
| 05:32.39 | Aiiane | indicator update delay = how often the data used to show the display is updated |
| 05:33.03 | Valkea | ok thx |
| 05:33.07 | Aiiane | also |
| 05:33.13 | Aiiane | the shorter version of HP is fine |
| 05:33.26 | Aiiane | I do have to fit it into the window :x |
| 05:33.27 | Valkea | this what i wrote finaly |
| 05:33.54 | Valkea | i tried i most case to find the shorter way to say the same thing |
| 05:34.03 | Aiiane | as long as you think the average french player will know what is meant, that's perfect |
| 05:34.12 | Valkea | but you will have problems with german translation ;) |
| 05:34.31 | Aiiane | heh |
| 05:34.47 | Valkea | german translations are much more longer than french... and french are much more longer than english one |
| 05:34.50 | Aiiane | I may ask german translators to abbreviate some :P |
| 05:35.32 | Valkea | something you need to know |
| 05:35.46 | Valkea | in french we put a space before the symbol ":" |
| 05:35.55 | Valkea | so i put space before them |
| 05:36.10 | Aiiane | that's fine |
| 05:36.15 | Valkea | but if you need ton contract, you can delete the space |
| 05:36.26 | Valkea | players do not care about that |
| 05:36.47 | Valkea | 80% of them do not write and read correct french |
| 05:36.51 | Aiiane | if necessary I can make the windows wider too |
| 05:39.25 | Valkea | Indicator render delay: ---> Raffraîchissement des données des Indicateurs : |
| 05:39.35 | Valkea | humm will try to make it shorter hehe |
| 05:40.48 | Aiiane | would 'speed' be any shorter than 'delay'? |
| 05:40.57 | Valkea | no |
| 05:40.59 | Aiiane | kk |
| 05:41.23 | Valkea | i do not write the speed notion |
| 05:41.39 | Valkea | else it would be --> Vitesse de Rafraîchissement des données des Indicateurs : |
| 05:41.42 | Valkea | xD |
| 05:41.43 | Aiiane | lol |
| 05:42.21 | WikkiFizzle | The bane of localization :P |
| 05:42.25 | Aiiane | indeed |
| 05:42.48 | WikkiFizzle | We ported the software I work on a few years back to Spanish |
| 05:42.56 | WikkiFizzle | Some 6k or so lines of text |
| 05:42.58 | Valkea | the good thing for me is that french is longer than most others languages, so when i translate from french to xxx i have enough space hehe |
| 05:42.59 | WikkiFizzle | Took forever |
| 05:43.07 | Aiiane | lol Valkea |
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| 05:43.52 | Valkea | erf, should be a big work Wikki |
| 05:43.53 | Aiiane | At least if need be, it won't be all that hard for me to resize config panes |
| 05:44.00 | Aiiane | I could do most of it with a search-and-replace |
| 05:44.03 | Valkea | did you used special software to do this ? |
| 05:44.21 | WikkiFizzle | We had a few custom scripts to transfer data from our translators to our software guys |
| 05:46.32 | Valkea | hehe ok |
| 05:48.20 | Valkea | ok the shortest i can find right now is ---> Récupération des données Indicateurs : |
| 05:49.11 | Aiiane | I take it french isn't too keen on abbreviations? :P |
| 05:49.13 | Valkea | will robably display over 2 lines |
| 05:49.37 | Valkea | the best abrreviation system we have here is the SMS |
| 05:49.39 | Valkea | >< |
| 05:49.45 | Aiiane | hehe :) |
| 05:49.56 | Aiiane | that's it! we'll translate everything to sms message equivalents |
| 05:50.03 | Aiiane | nothing could go wrong! |
| 05:50.07 | Valkea | and this is the reason why 80% of french do not know how to write french anymore |
| 05:50.29 | Valkea | but they do know sms ... |
| 05:51.18 | Aiiane | does french not make a distinction between "up" the direction, and "top" the position? |
| 05:51.38 | Valkea | Hi how are you --> Bonjour, comment allez vous ? --> Sa va ? |
| 05:51.50 | Valkea | no |
| 05:52.11 | Valkea | top, up and upper --> "haut" |
| 05:52.43 | Aiiane | how about "high" |
| 05:52.48 | Valkea | haut |
| 05:52.50 | Valkea | xD |
| 05:53.05 | Aiiane | really? lol |
| 05:53.16 | Aiiane | that's almost cute, if a language can be cute o.o |
| 05:53.21 | Valkea | well we could use differents words |
| 05:53.28 | Valkea | but the result would be the same |
| 05:54.19 | Valkea | high could be "haut" or "élevé" + gender and number variations |
| 05:54.49 | Valkea | top could be "haut" or "en haut" or "dessus" |
| 05:54.53 | Valkea | etc etc |
| 05:55.01 | Aiiane | yeah. I don't think it'll be an issue |
| 05:55.02 | Valkea | so the easier way is to use "haut" |
| 05:55.09 | Aiiane | none of the setting values have both up and top in the same set |
| 05:56.00 | Valkea | for each translation i have first look IG to understand the context |
| 05:56.43 | Valkea | so this is not 100% de word to word translation |
| 05:56.59 | Valkea | but in most case the best way to give the same idea in french |
| 05:57.15 | Aiiane | yep. that's the best way to do it |
| 05:57.18 | Aiiane | ...even if its long :P |
| 05:57.34 | Valkea | ;) |
| 05:57.40 | Aiiane | What I may also consider doing |
| 05:58.01 | Aiiane | is if the label is longer than X characters, display the first X followed by "...", and then displaying the full label when mousing over it |
| 05:58.26 | Aiiane | i dunno |
| 05:58.39 | Valkea | why do you not use wordwrap ? |
| 05:58.55 | art3mis | todays xkcd == win |
| 05:58.57 | Aiiane | because in most cases, the label isn't big enough to show another line |
| 05:58.57 | Valkea | in most case there is enough place for 2 lines |
| 05:59.15 | Aiiane | there's enough *raw* space, but the label isn't that big |
| 05:59.26 | Valkea | ok |
| 05:59.31 | Aiiane | and if you don't put at least a decent amount of space between labels, it becomes more difficult to match them to boxes |
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| 06:01.51 | Aiiane | alternatively I might just make the font smaller too if the label is larger :P |
| 06:02.14 | Valkea | humm this is a good solution too |
| 06:02.43 | Valkea | bey first you will try and if there is few problems, we can search for a smaller translation |
| 06:03.15 | Aiiane | I'd much rather start too large and work smaller |
| 06:03.23 | Aiiane | than start too small, and lose information |
| 06:03.30 | Valkea | ;) |
| 06:04.23 | Valkea | please give my a slash command example to get this : [Squared] Currently known options matching '%s': %s |
| 06:04.39 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.55 | Aiiane | the first %s is a search term |
| 06:05.00 | Valkea | ok, now i understand how to translate it ;) |
| 06:05.02 | Aiiane | the second %s is the resulting list of options that match |
| 06:05.16 | Aiiane | (make sure to include the %s in your translated text as well) |
| 06:06.08 | Valkea | yes |
| 06:06.12 | Valkea | [Squared] Liste des options connues correspondant à '%s' : %s |
| 06:06.43 | Valkea | i may have done some mistakes, but i tried to take care in most cases |
| 06:07.44 | Aiiane | I wonder how many people noticed that I slipped settings profiles into Squared 3.3 |
| 06:07.58 | art3mis | i did |
| 06:08.02 | art3mis | when repo told me |
| 06:08.10 | art3mis | using grid instead though |
| 06:08.11 | Valkea | ;) |
| 06:08.45 | Valkea | i tried both |
| 06:08.45 | art3mis | since it allows me sc wb and party in different locations ;) |
| 06:08.45 | Valkea | but i prefer squared |
| 06:08.45 | art3mis | i like squared |
| 06:08.45 | Aiiane | which is why variety is good |
| 06:08.48 | art3mis | but i dislike the the single placement for all 3 |
| 06:09.04 | art3mis | they're both good depeding on your visual preference |
| 06:09.16 | art3mis | squared is actually why i ended up at grid |
| 06:09.28 | Valkea | Squared is more easier to read when displayed in small settings |
| 06:09.37 | Valkea | well to my opinion |
| 06:09.38 | art3mis | read? |
| 06:09.45 | art3mis | i dont care what it says ;) |
| 06:09.55 | art3mis | if its not green i heal it ;) |
| 06:09.55 | Valkea | to "read" life level, names etc |
| 06:10.15 | art3mis | oh grid does the colour box thing |
| 06:10.20 | Valkea | i like to see names and classes, so i can give priority to heals |
| 06:10.20 | art3mis | im sure squared does as well |
| 06:10.26 | art3mis | i dont much care |
| 06:10.28 | Aiiane | I try to make squared as versatile as a possibly can, but there are some cases where I just have to make a straight up design decision |
| 06:10.40 | art3mis | yup |
| 06:10.44 | Aiiane | and layout of groups was one of those |
| 06:10.49 | art3mis | im not belittling it or saying you shuold change it at all |
| 06:11.06 | Aiiane | I can't really have both the dynamic layout as well as multiple static anchors without coding two entirely separate layout system options |
| 06:11.12 | art3mis | to be fair i HATED the wow equiv |
| 06:11.15 | Aiiane | lol |
| 06:11.16 | art3mis | couldnt stand it |
| 06:11.22 | art3mis | yet here i am in war using it |
| 06:11.23 | Valkea | ;) |
| 06:11.47 | art3mis | i did love rdx though |
| 06:11.49 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:11.57 | art3mis | and huduf was nice and pretty |
| 06:12.03 | art3mis | it just kept bugging out for me |
| 06:12.05 | art3mis | so... |
| 06:12.16 | Aiiane | What I find delightful |
| 06:12.32 | Aiiane | is how many people have managed to use Squared for something I completely did not envision when I initially created it |
| 06:12.39 | art3mis | like? |
| 06:12.39 | Aiiane | namely, a more bar-oriented display |
| 06:12.45 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:13.07 | art3mis | yay whack a mole healing! |
| 06:13.15 | Aiiane | but I'm glad when I was initially setting up the code that I decided to do it with the aim of making everything customizable |
| 06:13.20 | art3mis | i'd love to see bartender/trinity abrs come over |
| 06:13.26 | Aiiane | because I could have done it in a much "faster" manner |
| 06:13.29 | art3mis | bars |
| 06:13.34 | Aiiane | but it would have been impossible to add in some of the feature requests later |
| 06:13.36 | art3mis | that wuold make me so happy |
| 06:13.52 | art3mis | actually i wonder if i could mode autobar code to accomplish it |
| 06:14.02 | Aiiane | unlikely |
| 06:14.06 | art3mis | maybe i'll look into that tomorrow |
| 06:14.08 | art3mis | why? |
| 06:14.36 | Aiiane | because action bars that work with the server's saved action bar data are a whole different ball game from just displaying items to click on |
| 06:14.42 | art3mis | all i want it cusomizable action bars ;) |
| 06:14.44 | Aiiane | autobar is more an extension of the backpack than of action bars |
| 06:15.07 | art3mis | true but if i remove the action bars completely i could hook back to the original values |
| 06:15.31 | art3mis | essentially making a single button that merely calls the action bar itself without the action bar being displayed as standard no? |
| 06:15.35 | Aiiane | you'd probably more want to look at NAMBLA as far as hooking into the originals |
| 06:15.44 | art3mis | oh okies |
| 06:15.59 | art3mis | ill be limited to what 5 bars is it? |
| 06:16.05 | art3mis | s 60 total actions |
| 06:16.18 | art3mis | but if you could break the bars and do what you want with em... |
| 06:17.01 | art3mis | oh well night night work in 4.5 hours |
| 06:17.08 | Aiiane | bye |
| 06:17.11 | Aiiane | sleep well :) |
| 06:17.20 | Valkea | bye :) |
| 06:17.50 | Valkea | Very fun to translate >< |
| 06:17.50 | Valkea | Attempt to register non-table object as Squared handler for mode '%s' failed. |
| 06:18.21 | Valkea | But i think i found something not that bad --> "Echec de la tentative d'association d'un object non Table au contrôleur de Squared pour le mode '%s'." |
| 06:27.46 | Valkea | 3 more pages and this is the final stage,i will do i high score ;) |
| 06:28.46 | Aiiane | lol :D |
| 06:33.35 | Valkea | is there a place to see the overall projects to be translated ? |
| 06:35.23 | Aiiane | don't think so |
| 06:35.31 | Aiiane | why, having fun? :P |
| 06:36.49 | Valkea | not particulary ;) |
| 06:37.06 | Valkea | where is this "The anchor point for Squared." ? |
| 06:37.13 | Valkea | i can't find him IG |
| 06:37.18 | Valkea | (it) |
| 06:37.26 | Aiiane | it's the description for the item registered with the layout editor |
| 06:37.44 | Valkea | well i currently read "Squared Anchor" IG |
| 06:37.48 | Aiiane | yes |
| 06:37.53 | Aiiane | that's the title |
| 06:38.01 | Aiiane | I forget where the description is shown, but it's shown somewhere :P |
| 06:38.06 | Valkea | ok |
| 06:38.06 | Aiiane | maybe in the Window List |
| 06:38.13 | Aiiane | on mouseover or some such |
| 06:38.27 | Valkea | Windows |
| 06:38.50 | Valkea | humm no i read also "Squared Anchor" |
| 06:38.55 | Aiiane | either way, you can translate it to just a more verbose form of "squared anchor" |
| 06:38.56 | Valkea | well this is not important |
| 06:39.19 | Valkea | "Squared" would be nice |
| 06:43.06 | Alocer | Anyone happen to know how to scale a button that inherits="EA_Button_ListSort" in XML, textureScale doesn't want to play |
| 06:43.31 | Aiiane | WindowSetScale ? |
| 06:43.46 | Aiiane | of course, that will scale the text up too, dunno if you want that or not |
| 06:44.04 | Aiiane | assuming the button has text, ofc |
| 06:44.08 | Alocer | Would that screw with it when its parent is registered with the Layout Editor? |
| 06:44.13 | Alocer | It will have text |
| 06:44.33 | Aiiane | no, it won't |
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| 06:44.38 | Alocer | Or I guess I could create the window, scale it, then register it |
| 06:44.54 | Aiiane | parent registration doesnt matter for children |
| 06:45.04 | Alocer | Ahhh, good to know :) |
| 06:50.37 | Alocer | Well, WindowSetScale worked until I resized the window in the Layout Editor, then it went back to a scale of 1 |
| 06:52.00 | Aiiane | since it propagated the scale downwards..you could hook into the layout editor event system to rescale it... |
| 06:52.52 | Alocer | Yeah, seems like a lot of work just to try and get smaller sort buttons tho :p |
| 06:53.25 | Aiiane | mhm :p |
| 06:53.53 | Alocer | I'm curious as to why it works for other buttons, just not those |
| 06:54.25 | Alocer | Maybe because it's using <ResizeImage> |
| 06:54.34 | Alocer | Or <ResizeImages> rather |
| 07:04.28 | Alocer | Ah ha! Figured it out |
| 07:05.56 | Aiiane | hm? |
| 07:06.22 | Alocer | I had to make my own sort button definition instead of inheriting EA_Button_ListSort |
| 07:07.02 | Alocer | Because that uses <ResizeImages>, so I also had to write my own <HorizontalResizeImage> defintions for those, where I can actually use the textureScale |
| 07:07.30 | Daegalus | Aiiane! |
| 07:07.37 | Aiiane | Daegalus! |
| 07:07.48 | Daegalus | ./hug |
| 07:07.50 | Daegalus | that is all |
| 07:08.01 | Aiiane | ^_^ |
| 07:10.26 | Valkea | i can do it, i can do it ... 11 more |
| 07:24.12 | Aiiane | 6 left :) |
| 07:25.12 | Daegalus | though i have plenty of time for Russian, since the russian client/service hasnt started, and wont start for a bit :P |
| 07:26.37 | Valkea | Aiiane : what "Fading (final):" and "Fading (initial):" apply to ? |
| 07:26.51 | Aiiane | um, actually, give me a moment |
| 07:27.03 | Aiiane | let me check and see if I actually use them for anything anymore o.0 |
| 07:27.10 | Valkea | hehe ok |
| 07:27.32 | Aiiane | ok |
| 07:27.34 | Aiiane | basically |
| 07:27.42 | Aiiane | when a square is faded out due to being out of range/los |
| 07:27.51 | Aiiane | it gradually fades back in |
| 07:27.54 | Valkea | ok |
| 07:28.02 | Aiiane | the (initial) value is what it instantly fades to |
| 07:28.19 | Aiiane | the (final) value is what it gradually comes back to, before "popping" to full value again |
| 07:28.27 | Aiiane | so if your initial was 0.2, final was 0.5 |
| 07:28.41 | Aiiane | it'd instantly become 0.2, then gradually work up to 0.5, and then instantly be 1.0 again |
| 07:28.56 | Valkea | you should move "enable range/LoS fade" up to Fading (initial / final) then ;) |
| 07:29.50 | Aiiane | eh, it was easier to make all the checkboxes first, lol |
| 07:29.56 | Valkea | ;) |
| 07:30.15 | Valkea | damn, how can i translate "fade" Oo |
| 07:30.45 | Aiiane | how did you translate fading? :P |
| 07:30.53 | Valkea | the french equivalent apply to flowers |
| 07:31.02 | Aiiane | o.o |
| 07:31.22 | Valkea | when flowers are going to death |
| 07:31.25 | Valkea | xD |
| 07:31.25 | Aiiane | well, 'dimming' would also work |
| 07:31.35 | Aiiane | like how you would describe a light becoming not as bright |
| 07:31.45 | Aiiane | or darkening |
| 07:31.57 | Valkea | humm could be an idea yes |
| 07:32.02 | Aiiane | because generally that's what the fading will end up doing |
| 07:32.28 | Aiiane | how do you describe opaque versus transparent in french then? |
| 07:32.40 | Aiiane | i.e. if I had a sheet of white plastic, as opposed to a sheet of clear plastic |
| 07:32.59 | Valkea | hum |
| 07:33.23 | Valkea | Transformation |
| 07:33.37 | Aiiane | sure, but transformation is a general term meaning any change |
| 07:33.58 | Valkea | yes, i do not think we have something more accurate |
| 07:34.14 | Valkea | well still used in current french... |
| 07:34.19 | Valkea | xD |
| 07:34.20 | Aiiane | heh |
| 07:34.36 | Aiiane | id go with dimming/darkening if those are translatable then |
| 07:35.23 | Valkea | when working with french customers i use "fade-in" and "fade-out" |
| 07:35.29 | Valkea | so english words |
| 07:35.35 | Aiiane | lol |
| 07:36.34 | Valkea | and when they ask what is "fade-in" or "fade-out" i have to explain using a 1 min long sentence xD |
| 07:36.43 | Valkea | i will find ... |
| 07:37.20 | Aiiane | its funny hearing random words from one language used in a conversation being carried on in another |
| 07:37.37 | Valkea | yes |
| 07:38.10 | Aiiane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlQI0mfJbCc is fun, especially if you know the translation |
| 07:39.29 | Valkea | you can speak me french, english or spanish, but i do not understand any deutch word ;) |
| 07:40.04 | Aiiane | sec |
| 07:40.27 | Aiiane | http://wiseguys.de/liedtexte/englisch/denglisch_e.htm |
| 07:42.00 | Aiiane | the song is all about wanting to keep one's own language |
| 07:42.05 | Valkea | easier to understand this way ;) |
| 07:42.17 | Valkea | (with the page i mean) |
| 07:42.27 | Aiiane | but each time they sing the chorus |
| 07:42.33 | Aiiane | they sing it more and more in english |
| 07:42.39 | Valkea | but yes would be also easier with one unique language ;) |
| 07:42.47 | Aiiane | and all of the verses are things that have been taken from english |
| 07:42.55 | Valkea | hehe fun |
| 07:43.14 | Valkea | we still have regional languages here |
| 07:44.49 | Aiiane | Wise Guys is a fun group even if you don't understand german |
| 07:45.03 | Aiiane | they do some really crazy a capella stuff |
| 07:46.14 | Aiiane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exuj_wO0vlY is a good example |
| 07:46.19 | Aiiane | (no german involved) |
| 07:46.23 | Valkea | well i like to listen songs i do not understand |
| 07:46.29 | Valkea | easier to work ;) |
| 07:46.36 | Aiiane | you can understand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exuj_wO0vlY just as well as I can :D |
| 07:47.25 | Valkea | hehe |
| 07:48.02 | Valkea | they look crazy, but this is fun to watch and listen |
| 07:48.48 | Aiiane | you might also watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjzYlt6KUHU |
| 07:48.52 | Aiiane | and look up the lyrics for it |
| 07:49.07 | Aiiane | http://wiseguys.de/liedtexte/englisch/nurfuerdich_e.htm |
| 07:49.10 | Aiiane | is the lyrics |
| 07:49.13 | Aiiane | it's a fun song |
| 07:49.47 | Aiiane | skip past the talking at the beginning though |
| 07:49.58 | Aiiane | (to about 1:25 or so) |
| 07:50.20 | gutgut | Valkea after review i changed some lines... http://waruidev.pastey.net/105577 i am sorry the localisation pages of cursforge dont allow changes atm |
| 07:50.58 | Valkea | thx for your help gutgut ;) |
| 07:51.36 | Valkea | well you can change using the menu "Localization" then click on "deDe" |
| 07:51.47 | Valkea | had the same problem while translating Squared in french |
| 07:52.02 | Valkea | but i will use your pastey, no problem ;) |
| 07:52.03 | gutgut | np you have to replace "?~_" with "ß" |
| 07:52.51 | Valkea | "Todesstö�~_en" |
| 07:52.57 | gutgut | save in cf-localisation will produce a fatal err atm ;) |
| 07:53.15 | gutgut | yes replace with ß |
| 07:53.24 | Valkea | ok |
| 07:54.06 | Valkea | TodesstöÃen ? |
| 07:54.23 | gutgut | Todesstößen |
| 07:55.16 | Valkea | so IG seeing ?? is normal ? |
| 07:55.54 | gutgut | sry i am not so fast today i have an influenza :/ moent pls |
| 07:56.08 | Valkea | no problem hehe |
| 07:56.23 | Valkea | i try to understand why there is a ?in the middle of the word ;) |
| 07:56.38 | Valkea | a double ? xD |
| 07:57.06 | gutgut | its not german ;) |
| 07:57.39 | Valkea | so instead we should see a kind of B right ? |
| 07:57.49 | Valkea | a special german B |
| 07:58.06 | Aiiane | btw gutgut; we don't usually spell out influenza in english |
| 07:58.12 | Aiiane | typically we just say 'cold' or 'flu' |
| 07:58.36 | gutgut | thx :) |
| 07:59.12 | Valkea | Aiiane: Fondu !! |
| 07:59.19 | Valkea | Fading -> Fondu |
| 07:59.22 | Valkea | xD |
| 07:59.32 | Valkea | at least |
| 07:59.37 | Aiiane | gutgut: im not going to nag you about it or anything, but if you're interested in helping with the german translation for squared i'd love it :) |
| 08:00.14 | Daegalus | on the subject of foreign songs, i really like this one from an anime, it starts at 3:05ish or something, or i fyou wanna see the backstory to the song, or really like cute whales, watch the whole thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr9tM6LvwFU&feature=related |
| 08:00.29 | gutgut | ehm valkea where do u find "??" ... in Todestöße ? |
| 08:01.23 | Valkea | heheh i think our IRC client do not show all caracters xD |
| 08:01.23 | Aiiane | Valkea: your translation file should be loading as wstrings |
| 08:01.26 | Aiiane | otherwise odd characters like that might not load properly |
| 08:01.53 | Valkea | gutgut: ehm valkea where do u find "??" ... in Todest??e ? |
| 08:02.05 | Valkea | well exacly between t and e |
| 08:02.08 | Valkea | xD |
| 08:02.24 | Aiiane | o-umlaut is the first |
| 08:02.51 | Daegalus | if you have a hard time reading the subs, watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZtCpO_MooY&feature=related its the same one, but higher quality video when set to HQ |
| 08:02.51 | Aiiane | ö |
| 08:02.54 | gutgut | aiiane thats no problem if my flu is gone away .. and the cf pages are working as intended |
| 08:03.02 | Aiiane | gutgut: :) |
| 08:05.11 | Daegalus | Aiiane: you will like Laboon :P |
| 08:05.28 | Aiiane | laboon? |
| 08:05.44 | gutgut | Alt+0246 and Alt+0223 @valkea |
| 08:06.11 | Aiiane | who or what or where is laboon |
| 08:06.48 | Valkea | ok thx :) |
| 08:06.58 | Daegalus | In the video i linked :P |
| 08:07.05 | Daegalus | half way and near the end |
| 08:09.02 | Valkea | gutgut: what version did you took ? |
| 08:10.02 | gutgut | of dammaz? 590 |
| 08:10.20 | Valkea | ok, thx |
| 08:11.15 | gutgut | afk i have to clear the snow :( brb |
| 08:11.50 | Valkea | ;) |
| 08:18.36 | gutgut | re :) |
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| 08:28.58 | Valkea | ok all is changed with your new version. I will test if there is no problem |
| 08:29.53 | Valkea | well this is ok ;) |
| 08:30.19 | Valkea | thx |
| 08:30.19 | gutgut | :) |
| 08:37.32 | Valkea | Aiiane: i am reading all one more time to avoid big mistakes |
| 08:37.54 | Aiiane | oki :) im going to sleep |
| 08:37.58 | Aiiane | but thank you :) |
| 08:39.43 | Daegalus | night aiiane |
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| 08:40.51 | Valkea | there is one i can not modify |
| 08:41.14 | gutgut | ? |
| 08:41.15 | Valkea | We're sorry, you've attempted to access a page that decided to jump off its flying mount high over shattrath and forgot to bubble. If you find this message to be in error please notify the administrators. |
| 08:41.39 | gutgut | yes thats the problem ;) |
| 08:41.48 | Valkea | but i can modify all others |
| 08:42.00 | Valkea | strange |
| 08:44.09 | Valkea | my gf will laugh at me >< |
| 08:44.49 | gutgut | :P |
| 08:45.04 | Valkea | yesterday she said "see you tomorrow at 10 am, as usual" when she gone to sleep. And i answered "no i will sleep before that" |
| 08:45.11 | Valkea | but it is 9:45 ... |
| 08:46.47 | gutgut | ^^ |
| 09:14.15 | Valkea | ok, i can't edit the 2 last translations :) |
| 09:14.22 | Valkea | but finished ;) |
| 09:14.38 | Valkea | good day / night |
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| 14:03.42 | tronned | Morning everyone. |
| 14:19.51 | Flarin | good morning |
| 14:20.11 | encaitar | Is it? |
| 14:20.38 | Flarin | for some sure. |
| 14:21.16 | Thorien | Mornin |
| 14:22.37 | tronned | It is, 0922 here, in fact. |
| 14:23.06 | encaitar | I was asking more about the good part than the morning part :) |
| 14:23.48 | tronned | ah |
| 14:23.58 | tronned | back at work, so "good" is subjective |
| 14:24.02 | encaitar | Yeah |
| 14:24.10 | encaitar | Have to work FIVE DAYS this week. |
| 14:24.10 | Thorien | employment is good |
| 14:24.13 | encaitar | five whole days |
| 14:24.29 | Thorien | unemployment means no money |
| 14:25.36 | tronned | I have Friday off xD (I work a 9/80 schedule) |
| 14:26.41 | encaitar | interesting |
| 14:27.24 | encaitar | of course I have one of those jobs where I'm always supposed to be available anyway, so I suppose it doesn't really matter when my actual work hours are. |
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| 14:38.01 | tronned | I had one of those kinds of jobs, glad to not have it anymore :) |
| 14:38.29 | encaitar | Well, it's actually pretty rare to get calls outside of 9-5. |
| 14:38.49 | encaitar | Generally only if things go horribly wrong. |
| 14:42.57 | Flarin | is there a clean way to get a list of people in a certain chat channel? |
| 14:44.31 | Flarin | if i could do that it might be a workaround to get my list of guild alliance members that are online |
| 14:56.30 | encaitar | there's a slash command /channelwho |
| 14:56.44 | encaitar | Don't know what it returns |
| 14:56.57 | Flarin | ok thanks I will look into it |
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| 15:51.22 | ckknight | ~seen xocide |
| 15:51.26 | purl | i haven't seen 'xocide', ckknight |
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| 16:07.20 | Valkea | hello |
| 16:10.10 | Flarin | hola |
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| 16:26.22 | tortall | Happy New Year, Thurwell |
| 16:31.18 | Thurwell | Heya, have a good holiday? |
| 16:32.45 | tortall | Yup. How about you? |
| 16:32.56 | tortall | Anyone have experience with LibCereal? |
| 16:33.09 | Thurwell | Not too bad, back at work now. catching up on my comics |
| 16:34.05 | Thurwell | Also wondering if it's possible to install a loopback adapter in xp without admin rights. |
| 16:34.33 | tortall | Nope, it's not. |
| 16:34.39 | tortall | Can you run the at command? |
| 16:35.05 | Thurwell | I dunno, what's that |
| 16:35.20 | Thurwell | the service has not been started it says |
| 16:36.25 | tortall | It's an interface to the scheduling service. |
| 16:36.32 | tortall | Also gives a backdoor to System privs. |
| 16:38.01 | Thurwell | Hmm. I was just trying to remove mount some samba shares without doing anything drastic that would get me in trouble |
| 16:38.05 | Thurwell | remote |
| 16:39.15 | tortall | You can't map a drive as a user? |
| 16:40.04 | Thurwell | You can, but windows will only map them to port 139. So to get it to map through a ssh tunnel I'd have to disable the normal file sharing, which is bad cause all my work is on network drives |
| 16:40.18 | Thurwell | well, port 137-139 and 445, but it seems to claim them all |
| 16:41.24 | Thurwell | You'd think I could just map it to 127.0.0.100 or something, but windows seems to map them all to the same thing. it's weird |
| 16:43.52 | tortall | Use openvpn instead of an ssh tunnel. |
| 16:44.23 | encaitar | Thurwell, do you work on the warboard plugin for tortall's dps thingy? |
| 16:44.40 | Thurwell | Heh, if I was allowed to install software at work things would be so much easier |
| 16:44.41 | Thurwell | yeah |
| 16:45.21 | encaitar | I was thinking it would be ncie if you could right click it to toggle between dps and hps. I might do it myself but busy with my own stuff :) |
| 16:45.29 | Thurwell | download the new version |
| 16:45.36 | encaitar | ah, cool |
| 16:45.51 | tortall | There's no good way to track hps, really, or I'd show it myself in TDPS. |
| 16:46.05 | tortall | Well, I show a number on the Healing tab, but it's not accurate by any stretch. |
| 16:46.16 | encaitar | ah, ok |
| 16:46.34 | tortall | The thing is, you can't deal damage without being in combat, but you can heal. |
| 16:46.45 | encaitar | but, it would still be more useful than dps on my rune priest |
| 16:46.48 | tortall | And the only time tracked is combat time, not total time online. |
| 16:46.51 | encaitar | when it's at 0 almost all the time. |
| 16:47.08 | Thurwell | you could have it just count healing done while in combat and throw the rest out |
| 16:47.20 | tortall | Not worth it. |
| 16:47.43 | tortall | And some people want those numbers too. Healing post-combat is important too. |
| 16:47.57 | Thurwell | Not for a HPS meter |
| 16:48.50 | tortall | Then you get into problems such as what if you're not in combat, but your target is? Do you *always* get put into combat in that situation? Does that happen when you start casting, or after it lands? |
| 16:49.39 | Thurwell | I dunno, for all I care the TDPS warboard plugin could just say TDPS and never update, it's just a reminder to check my dps numbers now and then |
| 16:51.05 | tortall | It would be nice if the plugin could switch between the channels that TDPS has running, but I've been too lazy to create an interface for plugins to get that info out ofTDPS. |
| 16:51.54 | tortall | I suppose the interface really should be in TDC, and the plugin should just be able to show any channel currently registered. |
| 16:51.54 | Thurwell | It's a public var iirc, I could steal the information |
| 16:52.16 | tortall | And yes, the channels table is public in TDC. |
| 16:52.42 | tortall | But you really need an interface for it or you either have hardcoded info or a dependancy nightmare. |
| 16:52.52 | tortall | Or you won't know when to update your list. |
| 16:53.22 | Thurwell | update the list when they open the channel selection win, why would I need it updated dynamically |
| 16:53.32 | tortall | I guess that would work. |
| 16:53.41 | Thurwell | I'm just talking in theory, I don't really see any use for this feature |
| 16:53.51 | tortall | You'd need to also register for any channels you aren't already registered for, though. |
| 16:54.13 | tortall | Well, I might do it for my own plugin. maybe. |
| 16:54.32 | tortall | But I'd really want mine sync'd to TDPS, so they are always showing the same channel. |
| 16:54.58 | Thurwell | what other channels do you normally have running? |
| 16:55.00 | tortall | No one's asked for it, so it's not very pressing. |
| 16:55.16 | tortall | TDPS creates two channels. |
| 16:56.00 | tortall | I had the idea, in the dim past, to have several channels that auto-reset under different conditions (scenario start, flagging for rvr on code servers, etc.) |
| 16:56.09 | tortall | core* |
| 16:56.18 | Thurwell | yeah we talked about that |
| 16:56.49 | tortall | So far, if anyone uses the multiple channels, they've been happy with it. Haven't gotten any requests in that area. |
| 16:57.10 | tortall | I've done a lot more to expand what TDC tracks, though. |
| 16:57.28 | tortall | I now get defense events for your attempts to damage others. |
| 16:57.30 | Thurwell | Does the target list in tdpscore have a way to differentiate pcs and npcs? |
| 16:57.33 | tortall | Still don't track incoming. |
| 16:57.47 | tortall | Not for outgoing targets. |
| 16:58.01 | tortall | For incoming damage, yes. |
| 16:58.44 | tortall | I could have a tri-state flag, I suppose, for outgoing, and build a table of target data. Yes/No/Don't know. |
| 16:59.06 | tortall | But since AoE hitters (like your magus) don't target everyone, I may not have info on all targets. |
| 17:00.01 | tortall | Have you kept up with TDPS? |
| 17:00.13 | Thurwell | I haven't even logged into the game in 2 weeks |
| 17:00.27 | tortall | The detail view supports changing columns now. I add new columns on request. |
| 17:01.02 | Thurwell | I was envisioning a rvr/pve/both sort of filter |
| 17:01.27 | tortall | Would be nice. |
| 17:01.45 | tortall | Easily done as separate channels if I could get info reliably. |
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| 17:02.34 | Chryzo | happy new year! |
| 17:02.40 | Chryzo | feels good to be back on IRC /) |
| 17:02.44 | tortall | Mythic created separate chat channels (filters) for NPC hits and PC hits. But not for hitting. |
| 17:02.57 | tortall | welcome back, Chryzo :) |
| 17:03.38 | Thurwell | Maybe they'll add it for hitting in the future |
| 17:03.59 | tortall | One can but hope. |
| 17:04.42 | tortall | I do use the info to separate pet damage. That's another channel too, now. |
| 17:04.55 | tortall | And that reminds me that I have a bug-report about TSCC to look at. |
| 17:14.13 | tortall | and another unreproduceable bug. |
| 17:15.18 | tortall | Thurwell, I've started using compact_vps |
| 17:15.20 | Thurwell | I got one guy says compact vps cuts off the scenario points 100% of the time in warboard...except I use warboard all the time and have never seen that. |
| 17:15.26 | Thurwell | yay |
| 17:15.41 | tortall | different resolutions and/or ui scaling. |
| 17:16.27 | tortall | Any chance a future version could (optionally) hide the default zone control UI (above the mini map)? |
| 17:16.38 | Thurwell | yeah, I asked him what he has those set to |
| 17:16.52 | Thurwell | You can just hide it in the layout editor |
| 17:17.10 | tortall | I know. I just hate having to do that for every interface element i replace. |
| 17:17.43 | tortall | also, many elements are not well-behaved, and popup on their own. I like code to explicitly take care of these things when possible. |
| 17:17.47 | Thurwell | It'd be easy enough to hide, but what if people don't want it hidden |
| 17:17.59 | tortall | I said (optionally) :) |
| 17:18.37 | Thurwell | Could add a checkmark to the config window I spose |
| 17:18.47 | Thurwell | afk for about an hour |
| 17:18.53 | tortall | It's not a huge deal either way. This element is better behaved than most. |
| 17:19.19 | Thurwell | yeah, I've never had it back back up on me, even though it hides and unhides in certain zones when it's on |
| 17:19.26 | Thurwell | er, pop back up |
| 17:19.30 | Thurwell | and I don't remember the afk command |
| 17:22.01 | tortall | use /nick <new nick> I think that's what most do |
| 17:22.45 | tortall | Or use /away. Random guesses FTW! |
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| 17:23.54 | encaitar1 | Thurwell I've seen that with the scenario points getting cut off |
| 17:25.06 | encaitar1 | But I don't do scenarios very often any more. |
| 17:51.55 | Valkea | hey tortall, look like i have a bug with TdpsMeter ;) |
| 17:53.21 | Valkea | however, not a bigone |
| 17:58.01 | tortall | What's the bug? |
| 18:00.40 | Valkea | When i edit layouts, Tdps toggle on, even if th setting was off |
| 18:01.16 | Valkea | we can use /tdps toggle to toggle off, but i guess it should not do that when editing layouts ;) |
| 18:04.01 | tortall | The layout stuff is a bit buggy Kind of a known issue. I've just been ignoring it. |
| 18:04.46 | Aiiane | that generally happens if you register your actual window with the layout editor |
| 18:04.57 | Aiiane | as opposed to registering a "layout" window which your real window is anchored to |
| 18:05.16 | Aiiane | the layout window just being an invisible, non-input handling window |
| 18:05.37 | tortall | Perhaps I should just stop registering the window altogether. |
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| 18:05.48 | tortall | I have the main window set to moveable anyway. |
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| 18:10.52 | encaitar1 | tortall how would you set alpha then? |
| 18:14.01 | Alocer | Still have a problem with the Nemesis option window, encaitar? |
| 18:14.46 | encaitar1 | let me try it again now ... |
| 18:15.00 | Alocer | Ah no rush, I just couldn't find anything weird with the code is all |
| 18:15.42 | encaitar1 | I haven't done a scroll window myself before, but I remember reading something in the minifriends code that sounded like it might be a similar issue |
| 18:16.50 | Alocer | Yeah it was a struggle when I first wrote it, have to really pay attention to the size of everything in the XML |
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| 18:19.11 | encaitar1 | working now |
| 18:19.30 | Alocer | Excellent, thanks for trying that |
| 18:19.47 | encaitar1 | I saw my first nemesis last night too |
| 18:20.08 | Alocer | Haha, I like when they randomly show up :) |
| 18:21.33 | Thurwell | what's a nemesis |
| 18:21.53 | encaitar1 | an enemy |
| 18:22.10 | encaitar1 | or arch-rival |
| 18:22.20 | Valkea | a dangerous one ;) |
| 18:22.34 | Thurwell | oic, it's something determined by the addon rather than the game |
| 18:22.37 | Alocer | Yeah, in the case of my mod, a Nemesis is a person that has killed you multiple times without you ever killing them |
| 18:22.51 | Thurwell | thought it was a mob in war or something |
| 18:23.17 | Alocer | If I can ever finish this info window, I'll be adding Arch Enemies too that you add yourself |
| 18:23.21 | encaitar1 | Thurwell, I've seen that scenario point cut off thing as well |
| 18:23.50 | encaitar1 | I'm not sure if it happens all the time because I rarely play scenarios these days. |
| 18:24.45 | Thurwell | I suppose I can just have the label have no max width, set it to 3 chars max and hope I get no overlaps |
| 18:25.02 | encaitar1 | It might be a UI scale issue. |
| 18:25.07 | encaitar1 | Mine is at about 0.8 |
| 18:25.36 | Thurwell | probably, I had SNT bar installed breifly for testing and noticed that as you change the window scales the borders flicker in and out |
| 18:25.54 | encaitar1 | I am using warboard in case that makes a difference |
| 18:26.13 | Aiiane | that's because the texture pixels aren't matching up to screen pixels, Thurwell |
| 18:26.18 | Thurwell | probably not, it's the same window no matter what, just anchored to different things |
| 18:26.54 | Thurwell | so the border's a separate issue than the text? |
| 18:28.26 | Thurwell | or look at it this way, if you don't use any bar addon you can adjust compact vps scale in the layout editor, and there must be some scale that'll cause the point cutoff |
| 18:48.29 | Aiiane | yay, my mouse finally came |
| 18:49.01 | Alocer | Neat, I'm still waitin on a new headset, DHL seems to take forever. Which mouse did you buy? |
| 18:49.32 | Aiiane | intellimouse explorer 3.0 |
| 18:50.09 | Alocer | Looks pretty slick, not enough buttons for me though ;) |
| 18:50.31 | Aiiane | 5 buttons is enough for me |
| 18:50.39 | Thurwell | I like the logitech gaming mice |
| 18:50.51 | Thurwell | big fat mouse I can rest my lazy hand on |
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| 18:50.53 | Alocer | Mx518 4 lyfe! |
| 18:50.57 | WikkiFizzle | I have 3 buttons on my trackball so I made a 3 button foot pedal |
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| 18:51.12 | Thurwell | yeah I have one of those, alocer, and a G7 |
| 18:51.35 | Alocer | Those are slick too |
| 18:52.29 | Alocer | I just like using all of my instant abilities with the mouse, and use the keyboard for cast time abilities |
| 18:54.03 | Thurwell | G7 doesn't have enough buttons it's true, but wireless mice are really nice |
| 18:58.18 | Aiiane | the mx518's extra buttons are too oddly placed for me to find them comfortable |
| 18:58.40 | Thurwell | the two on the thumb are the only useful ones |
| 18:58.53 | Aiiane | which is why i like the intellimouse explorer |
| 18:58.53 | Alocer | I use them all :p |
| 18:58.57 | Aiiane | it has those two thumb buttons |
| 18:59.30 | Thurwell | In the g7 the ones by the scrollwheel were turned into sensitivity adjusters. it was nice to be able to drop them low for sniping and then back up to max for gunning tanks in planetside |
| 19:00.22 | Aiiane | i know, i had/have a g7 o.o |
| 19:00.24 | Thurwell | I don't have one, but some mice nowadays have buttons where you push the scroll wheel side to side, those'd be accessible |
| 19:00.26 | Alocer | Yeah I keep them with the sensitivy adjustments for FPS games, I think it helps in situations like you said |
| 19:01.32 | Thurwell | the mx revolution does that, I'm sure other manufacturers do too |
| 19:02.04 | Aiiane | one of the options for intellipoint is to let one button be a sensitivity modifier |
| 19:02.12 | Aiiane | so you can hold it down for low sensitivity |
| 19:02.17 | Aiiane | and then release and you're back to high |
| 19:02.25 | Aiiane | that's what i'd find most useful for sniping |
| 19:02.40 | Alocer | That sounds nice too |
| 19:05.29 | Alocer | Would kind of be a pain for those long sniping sessions, but they each have their tradeoffs |
| 19:06.21 | Thurwell | I did have a tendency to forget to toggle back when some I got attacked and end up spinning in circles |
| 19:06.29 | Alocer | Hehehe |
| 19:06.35 | Thurwell | Although really in PS when someone sneaks up behind you you're dead no matter what |
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| 19:20.03 | Aiiane | Thurwell: though it was always fun if the stealther wasn't very good |
| 19:20.20 | Aiiane | and so discovered that your other car was a sweeper shotgun ;) |
| 19:21.27 | Aiiane | I miss planetside |
| 19:25.49 | Alocer | I only ever played the beta, but I remember staying up all night repeatedly to play it |
| 19:26.30 | Alocer | It was a great concept |
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| 19:31.03 | Alocer | was wondering if I could get some opinions on how this window looks after I upload it in a minute |
| 19:33.26 | Alocer | http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demoriel000dv2.jpg |
| 19:33.53 | Alocer | The 3 icons in the title bar are buttons, that either show or hide the 3 different windows below |
| 19:34.27 | Alocer | So that only the title bar is the only thing that constantly shows |
| 19:34.48 | Aiiane | looks good :) |
| 19:35.32 | Alocer | Thanks, took forever just to get that far :p |
| 19:40.58 | Bloodwalker | Not bad Alocer...for consistency with the default UI the title bar should be touching the frame, no gap |
| 19:41.59 | Thurwell | I spent more time shooting snipers in the back with my mossie than sniping myself. |
| 19:42.10 | Alocer | I'll try moving it up higher |
| 19:42.34 | Thurwell | following by frantically afterburning away from AA. Oh well |
| 19:43.23 | Bloodwalker | can shrink the buttons too so they stay inside your title bar instead of bits sticking out, going to have mouseover tooltips for your buttons? |
| 19:43.33 | Aiiane | Thurwell: starfire, go! :D |
| 19:43.56 | Alocer | Tooltips eventually, I was just worried about making them too small |
| 19:44.15 | Alocer | They're 32x32 right now |
| 19:44.58 | Bloodwalker | they seem distinct enough from each other and with tooltips it shouldnt be a problem.. or you can make the title bar wider too |
| 19:45.24 | encaitar | You'll probably want a close button on there too |
| 19:46.07 | Alocer | Well the idea is you just start with the title bar, then clicking on one of the button shows the proper window below, and clicking it again hides the window |
| 19:46.15 | Thurwell | I was a barnie myself, aiiane. So it was mostly bursters i was scared of |
| 19:46.20 | encaitar | ah, I see |
| 19:46.31 | Thurwell | we call those tabs |
| 19:46.58 | Bloodwalker | but a toggle to hide the title bar wouldnt be a bad thing either |
| 19:47.49 | Alocer | Like a seperate button? It's going to be registered with the Layout Editor as well |
| 19:48.00 | Alocer | For hiding/moving/opacity |
| 19:48.28 | Aiiane | Thurwell: ah. I always loved watching aircraft dive for the hills as my starfire locked onto them :D |
| 19:48.52 | Bloodwalker | Im not entirely sure what your functionality is going to be...but a toggle to hide it when they dont need it is a common request |
| 19:50.05 | Alocer | Here it is with the window higher and the mouse pointer hovering over the left button http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demoriel001ys7.jpg |
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| 19:51.25 | Alocer | It's going to show the names and kills/deaths of your Nemeses and Dominations, and for the Arch Enemies it'll show the names of the person you added yourself, the number indicating your struggle with them, and I'll also need a way of adding the person |
| 19:52.02 | Alocer | So EditBox + Button to add them, and ComboBox + Button to remove them (Arch Enemies) |
| 19:53.38 | Bloodwalker | ya looks good... Id still shrink the icons by about 8 pixels so they fit inside the titlebar border nicely... ya a toggle button somewhere or a function they can macro to toggle would be usefull... think of someone in a fortress fight with a screen full of other stuff.. they might want to hide your window till they are done |
| 19:53.40 | encaitar | Could do that with right click popping up a context mneu |
| 19:54.01 | encaitar | to add/remove arch enemies |
| 19:54.59 | Alocer | I'll see how they look shrinked, just the border around them is already getting really really tiny ;) |
| 19:55.01 | Aiiane | wb Thurwell |
| 19:55.13 | Alocer | Hmm, I'll have to ponder the right click menu idea |
| 19:55.36 | Alocer | Or I guess I could just have adding/removing Arch Enemies in the options window |
| 19:56.01 | Bloodwalker | can always make your own textures Alocer that look better smaller :) |
| 19:56.10 | Bloodwalker | if your not happy with them |
| 19:56.15 | Thurwell | putty died on me |
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| 19:57.05 | encaitar | silly putty |
| 19:57.11 | encaitar | :) |
| 19:57.16 | Alocer | True, but then I'd just go and make the whole thing in Photoshop :p |
| 19:57.42 | Daegalus | whats this i hear about photoshop, silly putty, and groaning? |
| 19:58.14 | Aiiane | Thurwell: this is why you run your irc client inside of screen |
| 19:58.26 | Aiiane | so that even if putty dies your irc client stays connected :D |
| 19:58.36 | Bloodwalker | were working on next years christmas card to send to your parent Daegalus... it'll be good |
| 19:58.36 | Thurwell | inside if which screen? |
| 19:58.43 | Alocer | haha |
| 19:58.47 | Daegalus | mmm kinky |
| 19:58.53 | Daegalus | make sure you get a good picture of me |
| 19:59.11 | tronned | who's groaning? stop it! |
| 19:59.12 | Daegalus | and lots of silly putty, you are gonna need it |
| 19:59.33 | Bloodwalker | the way things are looking.. spackle is gonna work too |
| 19:59.46 | Aiiane | Thurwell: what irc client are you using |
| 20:00.04 | Thurwell | mibbit, it's a web client, and connected to the web though squid which I'm connected to through putty |
| 20:00.09 | Aiiane | ah |
| 20:00.19 | Thurwell | I'm at work |
| 20:00.19 | Aiiane | so you're not actually using putty for a terminal, just tunneling |
| 20:00.29 | Thurwell | yeah |
| 20:00.40 | Aiiane | i use putty to connect to a shell session and just use irssi |
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| 20:01.27 | Thurwell | Never heard of it. Doesn't look bad for a text client |
| 20:01.36 | Alocer | I shrunk the icons by 4 pixels, good call on that |
| 20:02.04 | Thurwell | I do have a terminal up in putty, I mostly use it for admin work on the server |
| 20:02.44 | Aiiane | irssi is really well done |
| 20:02.44 | Aiiane | it can take a tiny bit of getting used to if you're using to gui |
| 20:02.48 | Aiiane | but once you get used to it, it's really streamlined |
| 20:04.20 | Thurwell | I don't suppose there's a way to have putty tab through multiple terminal sessions? |
| 20:04.41 | Aiiane | I typically just use multiple putty instances |
| 20:05.49 | Thurwell | which works fine, but my desktop is kind of messy |
| 20:05.52 | encaitar | you could always install some X Window system (like cygwin) and then run something like konsole on the remote. |
| 20:06.10 | Thurwell | I guess I could recheck group similar taskbar items |
| 20:06.30 | Aiiane | Thurwell: on the other hand, screen lets you have multiple screens in a single terminal window :P |
| 20:06.37 | Aiiane | among many other useful things |
| 20:06.52 | Aiiane | in your terminal, open up the man page for screen and take a look around :) |
| 20:06.53 | Thurwell | oh, screen's a program. I didn't realize |
| 20:07.09 | Thurwell | no manual entry |
| 20:07.13 | encaitar | Yeah, it's pretty cool |
| 20:07.15 | Daegalus | What I like to do, is use OpenVPN to route my entire laptop through port 80 using a squid proxy on the openvpn server. and use anything i want on my network, plus have unrestricted internet :P |
| 20:07.18 | Aiiane | hmm... what distro do you use Thurwell ? |
| 20:07.23 | Thurwell | ubuntu |
| 20:07.33 | Aiiane | sudo apt-get install screen |
| 20:08.36 | Thurwell | ok |
| 20:08.52 | Aiiane | after which you should have a man page for screen ;) |
| 20:09.09 | Daegalus | but then again OpenVPN is to get through the most restricted firewalls, where only TCP port 80 is open |
| 20:09.59 | Thurwell | I like to use port 443 since encrypted traffic looks less unusual on it |
| 20:10.13 | Thurwell | Hmm, that's kind of nifty |
| 20:11.01 | Thurwell | I was actually trying to figure out earlier if there's a way to mount directories through SSH. which there is, but in windows apparently you need to disable local file sharing first |
| 20:11.14 | Aiiane | but yeah... screen is really, really handy |
| 20:11.42 | Aiiane | it's like interactive background processes, basically |
| 20:12.08 | Thurwell | Heh, and the man page is 3400 lines long |
| 20:13.16 | Daegalus | well, at my school i have no choice, all ports except port 80, and only TCP over port 80 is allowed. everything else is blocked both ways |
| 20:13.38 | Aiiane | Thurwell: you dont need to read it all |
| 20:13.43 | encaitar | that sucks |
| 20:13.46 | Aiiane | basic usage for a single screen that you can pull back up |
| 20:13.54 | Aiiane | "screen" to start the terminal session inside screen |
| 20:13.58 | Aiiane | then if you get disconnected |
| 20:14.00 | Aiiane | screen -x |
| 20:14.06 | Aiiane | will pop you right back in to where you left off |
| 20:14.35 | Thurwell | Oh, I did type screen but it didn't look like it did anything. So I guess I'm inside screen now |
| 20:14.40 | Aiiane | yes, you are |
| 20:14.56 | Aiiane | to "detach" from screen (i.e. exit screen, but keep it running) |
| 20:15.00 | Aiiane | do Ctrl+A, d |
| 20:15.08 | Aiiane | (that's Ctrl+A, release, then d) |
| 20:15.24 | Thurwell | What d do, I just did c and now I'm not looking at the man page any more :) |
| 20:15.37 | Aiiane | um, i forget what c is |
| 20:15.44 | Thurwell | c is a new window |
| 20:15.44 | Aiiane | might be close, though |
| 20:15.47 | Aiiane | or that |
| 20:15.51 | Aiiane | create :) |
| 20:16.00 | Daegalus | aiiane is rusty on her linux commands :P |
| 20:16.00 | Aiiane | anywho, ill let you dig in the man pages |
| 20:16.02 | Aiiane | no |
| 20:16.04 | Thurwell | Ok, so I d'ed and then did screen -x |
| 20:16.08 | Aiiane | im just rusty on all the various stuff for screen |
| 20:16.14 | Aiiane | anywho |
| 20:16.22 | Aiiane | i need to go pick up my little brother from school |
| 20:16.22 | Thurwell | Heh, I should have looked up how to get back to my old window before creating a new one. |
| 20:16.23 | Daegalus | lol, i was just joking :P |
| 20:16.25 | Aiiane | back in a bit |
| 20:16.37 | Aiiane | Thurwell: easy, just pull up the man page for screen again in your new window :P |
| 20:16.46 | Aiiane | ttfn |
| 20:17.23 | Thurwell | yeah. it's " apparently. weird key binding |
| 20:17.45 | Thurwell | well thanks, this should be handy. |
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| 20:22.51 | encaitar | anybody have the link to that ticket about the files not going to curse.com? |
| 20:23.46 | Thurwell | no, haven't had any problem with that myself |
| 20:23.54 | encaitar | got it |
| 20:24.34 | encaitar | doesn't seem to have been picked up yet :( |
| 20:25.26 | Bloodwalker | they are fixing it now encaitar.. its part of a DB issue |
| 20:25.36 | encaitar | ok, cool |
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| 20:25.38 | Bloodwalker | they had to wait till today to fix |
| 20:26.24 | Thur | Alrighty then, now I'm connected in irssi |
| 20:26.26 | encaitar | Only seems to be affecting one of projects |
| 20:31.44 | Bloodwalker | wierd... another chat bug... right now Ive got a channel 0 with the chatter from an entirely different zone |
| 20:34.08 | encaitar | Yeah |
| 20:34.18 | encaitar | Some people reported it was enemy /1 chat |
| 20:34.44 | Alocer | Once after losing a Fortress Defense, a guild member could see the enemy chat for a few minutes |
| 20:36.42 | xd | we get enemy people in our /guild chat sometimes |
| 20:36.57 | Alocer | Haha crazy |
| 20:36.59 | xd | but we dont use /guild much anyway... mostly just vent |
| 20:37.09 | Thur | I was in two guilds for a while, but I only saw the chat from my real one |
| 20:37.55 | encaitar | So .. until that bug is resolved use /2 for any sensitive rvr information :) |
| 20:38.47 | WikkiFizzle | That bug has been around for a while |
| 20:38.57 | WikkiFizzle | I saw it back in beta several times |
| 20:39.05 | encaitar | Unless you're playing your destruction/volkar characters. Then you are safe ... |
| 20:40.39 | Alocer | I take it you play order? :p |
| 20:40.45 | encaitar | Yes :) |
| 20:42.10 | encaitar | WikkiFizzle: Are you the author of aura? |
| 20:45.53 | WikkiFizzle | Yes |
| 20:46.25 | encaitar | Cool, very useful. I'm using Pure as well, I get a lot of people asking about it on screenshots. |
| 20:47.11 | Alocer | I'm looking forward to using Alert Limiter |
| 20:47.24 | WikkiFizzle | Pure will go to beta pretty shortly |
| 20:47.36 | WikkiFizzle | Ive got a few little things to work out and finish |
| 20:47.47 | encaitar | You can download alert limiter from curseforge |
| 20:48.09 | encaitar | Hopefully later today they'll fix whatever is preventing it from going to curse. |
| 20:48.43 | Alocer | Ah thanks |
| 20:48.53 | Flarin | i am using Pure as well - very nice frames |
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| 20:55.46 | Unremarkable | Anyone know if theres an easy way to append text to an item's tooltip? |
| 20:56.36 | Aiiane | hook the function that generates it. |
| 20:57.17 | Unremarkable | Was afraid of that. kk, thanks. |
| 20:59.17 | encaitar | If you don't want to recreate the whole tooltip you can display a second window with it and you can set it up to hide that window as it hides the tooltip. |
| 21:00.44 | encaitar | Like this http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/17107/12043/TacticsUnlimitedTitle.jpg - that's with an extra window anchored to the top of the regular tooltip. |
| 21:03.01 | Unremarkable | Hmm, not bad. |
| 21:07.28 | Alocer | Anyone want to write my resume for me? I got D's in high school english classes |
| 21:07.28 | encaitar | There's a table Tooltips.curExtraWindows, if you add your window to that it gets hidden with the tooltip. |
| 21:11.36 | Unremarkable | For some reason I can't see the Tooltips source.. |
| 21:12.57 | tortall|playing | Hey, Bloodwalker. I got my abomination of a shareable pins addon working. |
| 21:17.41 | Bloodwalker | lol cool |
| 21:17.58 | Bloodwalker | tested it much yet? |
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| 21:23.23 | Repo | 10mapmonsternavigator: 03Bloodwalker * r32 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added tag Beta v0.4.4 for changeset 660039d92177 (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 21:23.27 | Repo | FIX: Minor typo bug fix in GrowUp option name |
| 21:23.31 | Repo | ADDED: Code and slash command to autohide active waypoint window when empty |
| 21:23.36 | Repo | Added a few comments to code |
| 21:23.42 | Repo | ADDED: Customizable layer support to position window and new position reset slash command |
| 21:24.54 | encaitar | Oh, nice on the auto-hide. I can remove my line hidiing the waypoint label. |
| 21:24.57 | tortall | Not all that much, no. Just between my two accounts. |
| 21:25.42 | tortall | It's a very dumb system. |
| 21:25.56 | tortall | The cool part was getting multi-part messages working in tac. |
| 21:27.45 | tortall | Perhaps I'll take another look at TextLogs sometime soon. |
| 21:28.08 | tortall | With those and some LibCereal, we might get a better storage option. |
| 21:29.34 | tortall | And so much for a 10 minute downtime... |
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| 21:38.09 | encaitar | anyone know the difference between OBJECTIVE_CONTROL_POINTS_UPDATED and OBJECTIVE_OWNER_UPDATED events? |
| 21:41.32 | Thurwell | hmm |
| 21:41.38 | Thurwell | ok there we go |
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| 21:44.12 | tortall | Are you talking about BFOs or Scenerio objectives, encaitar? |
| 21:44.35 | Bloodwalker | objectives can update without changing owners |
| 21:44.47 | tortall | That's what I was going to say. |
| 21:44.47 | Bloodwalker | e.i 15 min safe timer is up |
| 21:44.57 | Bloodwalker | i.e even sheesh |
| 21:45.56 | encaitar | Looking at BFOs |
| 22:05.24 | encaitar | You happen to know if OBJECTIVE_OWNER_UPDATED fires when a keep changes hands to? |
| 22:09.43 | Bloodwalker | Dont know haven't looked at those events before |
| 22:09.58 | Bloodwalker | I would guess yes |
| 22:10.14 | tortall | This is mythic... I would guess "sometimes" |
| 22:10.23 | encaitar | lol |
| 22:10.37 | encaitar | Not so important for keeps, but would be nice if it did. |
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| 22:11.10 | Alocer | lol |
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| 22:58.55 | encaitar | Was SystemData.MapPins renamed since the SystemData dump on thewarwiki.com? |
| 22:59.38 | Aiiane | unlikely |
| 22:59.48 | encaitar | when I dump it I get nothing |
| 23:00.09 | Aiiane | encaitar: I believe that's CAMPAIGN_STATUS_UPDATED for the keeps changing hands |
| 23:00.25 | encaitar | Oh, cool |
| 23:01.01 | Aiiane | or w/e that event is named |
| 23:03.13 | encaitar | WORLD_RVR_STATUS_UPDATED maybe? |
| 23:03.49 | Aiiane | no.... sec |
| 23:04.33 | Aiiane | actually, yeah, nevermind, i was thinking of something else |
| 23:04.40 | Aiiane | OBJECTIVE_OWNER_UPDATED fires for keeps |
| 23:04.44 | encaitar | OK :) |
| 23:08.07 | encaitar | oh duh, learn to read encaitar |
| 23:08.12 | encaitar | MapPips, not MapPins |
| 23:09.15 | Aiiane | :P |
| 23:09.26 | Aiiane | so metaphaze is leaving, or at least taking a break, apparently |
| 23:09.46 | Aiiane | which means that both of the HUD authors are looking for other people to pick up their projects |
| 23:13.23 | encaitar | I see in objective tracker you're not looking for OBJECTIVE_CONTROL_POINTS_UPDATED, is that just because you're timing it yourself anyway or does it not fire when the 3 mins are up? |
| 23:14.52 | Aiiane | don't recall whether it fired or not; but either way it's basically irrelevant |
| 23:15.13 | Aiiane | i think that event was more for scenario objectives though |
| 23:15.17 | Aiiane | i could be wrong, however |
| 23:15.50 | encaitar | Yeah, actually I think it's to do with the timer bars there. |
| 23:17.01 | encaitar | So I guess the best way to find out when it switches is to time the 3 minutes myself? |
| 23:18.07 | Aiiane | probably. what are you needing the info for? |
| 23:20.01 | encaitar | Updating an activity message automatically. For example you can select a BO on the map, that sets the activity as "attacking [name]", when it's taken it updates to "holding [name] for 3 minutes, then moving to [nextname]", and after the 3 minutes "attacking [nextname]" |
| 23:20.28 | Aiiane | I'd just grab it from the actual objective display then |
| 23:23.08 | encaitar | from the alert text? |
| 23:27.18 | Aiiane | no |
| 23:27.30 | Aiiane | from the display that you see in the default UI which tells you how much time is left |
| 23:27.48 | encaitar | ok |
| 23:36.22 | encaitar | Actually, looks like PUBLIC_QUEST_* events fire at the BOs |
| 23:42.02 | Aiiane | when you're standing there yes |
| 23:42.39 | encaitar | yeah |
| 23:42.58 | encaitar | I'm deciding if that's OK or not |
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