| 00:00.09 | e2x | is the patch finished? |
| 00:00.15 | Aiiane | no, but I can guarantee you 100% that the targetplayer change will make it to live |
| 00:00.16 | e2x | have'nt readed anything from mythic :( |
| 00:00.42 | `Zypher | e2x: it's clear they intend to change it |
| 00:01.19 | e2x | there is many things that are clear for some.. but have you talked to mythic directly? |
| 00:01.38 | e2x | I tryed, did'nt got any response :/ |
| 00:01.42 | Aiiane | that's a question that I couldn't answer. |
| 00:02.13 | e2x | so, lets stick to 99.99% rather than 100 :) |
| 00:02.22 | Aiiane | no, let's no |
| 00:02.24 | Aiiane | *not |
| 00:02.30 | `Zypher | I have |
| 00:02.33 | e2x | man with low faith |
| 00:02.45 | Aiiane | problem solved, not a man |
| 00:02.55 | `Zypher | Aiiane: is about as much a man as I am a girl |
| 00:02.56 | e2x | man like a human being |
| 00:03.00 | e2x | generalization |
| 00:03.35 | `Zypher | e2x: if it bothers you |
| 00:03.38 | `Zypher | make you're own addon |
| 00:03.45 | `Zypher | that you will have to change on patch day |
| 00:04.05 | e2x | i have a better idea :) |
| 00:04.17 | e2x | wait, have to check the api.. gime a sec |
| 00:04.57 | `Zypher | Aiiane: party time? |
| 00:05.40 | Daegalus | wow, REd Eye Mountain just crashed when the fortress door went down, the exterior one |
| 00:05.51 | `Zypher | Daegalus: I told you! |
| 00:05.52 | e2x | there must be a way to check the client version.. if 1.0.4 use old metho.. of 1.0.5 use new one :D |
| 00:06.06 | `Zypher | nawp |
| 00:06.09 | e2x | try to not hit that hard the door budy |
| 00:06.25 | `Zypher | e2x: IsInternalBuild() |
| 00:06.28 | `Zypher | is the only thing |
| 00:06.28 | Daegalus | `Zypher: told me what? you never told me anythign about fortresses |
| 00:06.47 | `Zypher | how many times did I say that fortress sieges caused Volkmar to fuck up |
| 00:07.23 | Daegalus | i was never here to see those |
| 00:07.27 | `Zypher | lol |
| 00:07.28 | `Zypher | wow |
| 00:07.30 | `Zypher | well ya |
| 00:07.37 | `Zypher | same thing had been happening on Volkmar |
| 00:07.41 | Daegalus | ya but volkmar at least got ot the city part |
| 00:07.50 | `Zypher | ya |
| 00:07.53 | `Zypher | but now we can't |
| 00:07.54 | Daegalus | does it reset when the server comes back up? |
| 00:08.01 | `Zypher | yup |
| 00:08.04 | `Zypher | back to middle |
| 00:08.11 | `Zypher | you only have 45mins to cap the fortress |
| 00:08.45 | Aiiane | e2x: a) yes, there is a way b) no, because it's more trouble to code to support both, when you could just code to support what you know is going to be standard |
| 00:09.07 | Aiiane | if you really want, you can just use an older version of ishealbot, nothing is stopping you |
| 00:09.15 | Aiiane | you'll just have to remember *yourself* to update it on patch day |
| 00:09.41 | `Zypher | Aiiane: wait |
| 00:09.43 | `Zypher | how? |
| 00:11.18 | `Zypher | ~whack Aiiane |
| 00:11.19 | purl | ACTION whacks Aiiane upside the head. |
| 00:11.35 | Aiiane | SystemData.ClientVersion |
| 00:11.42 | `Zypher | oh |
| 00:11.44 | `Zypher | silly me |
| 00:11.51 | `Zypher | number? |
| 00:12.23 | Daegalus | OMG Destruction kept Kadrin Valley |
| 00:12.33 | `Zypher | neato |
| 00:13.25 | Aiiane | it's a string, `Zypher. |
| 00:13.30 | Aiiane | wstring, actually |
| 00:13.37 | Aiiane | w"Version 1.0.4 Build 392" |
| 00:13.43 | `Zypher | interesting |
| 00:16.19 | Daegalus | wow all of t4 is bugged |
| 00:16.27 | `Zypher | Daegalus: welcome to my world |
| 00:16.33 | Daegalus | Chaos Wastes and Praag are all owned by order, but the zone control says its not |
| 00:20.52 | `Zypher | -.:.- |
| 00:23.23 | `Zypher | <[-:-]> |
| 00:29.07 | Daegalus | all zones are LOCKED |
| 00:29.13 | Daegalus | no one cant ake anyhting |
| 00:31.05 | `Zypher | yup |
| 00:31.07 | `Zypher | ;) |
| 00:31.24 | `Zypher | next |
| 00:31.29 | `Zypher | keep doors wont be attackable |
| 00:34.05 | Daegalus | they already arent |
| 00:34.08 | Daegalus | nothing is attackable |
| 00:34.11 | `Zypher | haha |
| 00:34.12 | Daegalus | everything is completely locked |
| 00:34.13 | `Zypher | told you |
| 00:34.19 | `Zypher | annoying isn't it |
| 00:34.58 | Daegalus | bah, even thogh we were on the defense, it sucks that we couldnt do the fortress battle |
| 00:46.02 | `Zypher | I hear dat |
| 00:55.09 | Aiiane | ah, the wonders of user-support: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186963 |
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| 01:16.08 | `Zypher | Aiiane: lulz are nice |
| 01:17.08 | Noctys | I'm sure this was discussed in detail while I was out of town, but do we know what 1.0.5 is going to break yet? |
| 01:18.49 | Aiiane | TargetPlayer |
| 01:19.07 | Noctys | Made internal only? |
| 01:31.24 | Noctys | There isn't a way to have a mod-file run a macro command is there? |
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| 01:37.59 | `Zypher | ok so Cowboy Bebop is pretty good |
| 01:40.33 | Aiiane | I should totally dye my hair purple |
| 01:40.35 | Zachius | Zachiusdragon86 |
| 01:41.44 | Zachius | hrmm mt |
| 01:46.54 | Aiiane | oh wow |
| 01:46.56 | Aiiane | http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=439 |
| 01:47.02 | Aiiane | 1.0.4b patch, coming out tomorrow |
| 01:47.09 | Aiiane | When conquered, Keeps will always provide three gold loot bags and Fortresses will now offer six guaranteed gold loot bags as part of the chest loot. |
| 01:47.11 | Aiiane | that's a nice change |
| 01:47.39 | Aiiane | and they patched in the electromagnet/chaosrift changes early |
| 01:48.01 | `Zypher | haha |
| 01:48.03 | `Zypher | finally |
| 01:51.53 | Zachius | nice and scen queue changes as well! |
| 01:58.40 | thanners | it'll be nice to see other scenarios.. |
| 02:04.16 | `Zypher | thanners: orly |
| 02:04.21 | `Zypher | there are others? |
| 02:04.44 | `Zypher | weeew |
| 02:04.56 | `Zypher | 2.6.28-rc4 |
| 02:05.06 | `Zypher | new kernel funziez |
| 02:05.30 | thanners | `Zypher: I have heard.. tales. whispered tales of other scenarios. I won't believe it until I see them for myself, though. |
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| 02:06.08 | tronned | what's going on, peoples |
| 02:07.32 | `Zypher | sexytime |
| 02:07.44 | Aiiane | `Zypher is being a noob, as usual |
| 02:10.39 | Thunder_Child | noob ftw |
| 02:11.54 | tronned | doh, brb, bedtime for kids |
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| 02:19.40 | `Zypher | wtf |
| 02:19.48 | `Zypher | I don't recall saying sexytime |
| 02:19.50 | `Zypher | wow |
| 02:19.53 | `Zypher | did I really say that? |
| 02:20.16 | `Zypher | that was really wierd |
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| 02:22.26 | `Zypher | wierd |
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| 02:33.05 | CowBook|PR | bloops? |
| 02:33.18 | CowBook|PR | Aiiane: you there? |
| 02:33.23 | Aiiane | ? |
| 02:33.28 | CowBook|PR | hiya, quick question |
| 02:33.38 | CowBook|PR | I haven't looked into the whole new targeting thing yet in 1.0.5 |
| 02:34.19 | CowBook|PR | but i was wondering if you had any idea if you thought some kind of targeting would be executable in a macro, instead of clicking a UI button with the mouse |
| 02:34.29 | CowBook|PR | or if not in a macro, at least have a keybind for it |
| 02:34.49 | Aiiane | you can connect keybindings to window game actions, too... |
| 02:34.53 | CowBook|PR | hmmn |
| 02:35.08 | CowBook|PR | i'm just thinking about Focus, iu don't know if you've ever seen it |
| 02:35.33 | CowBook|PR | but it allows you to assist, aid, or target a predefineable friendly player with a keypress |
| 02:35.50 | CowBook|PR | and also has a self-or-predefined person toggle key |
| 02:36.04 | CowBook|PR | which works wonderfully with TargetPlayer(), of course :D |
| 02:36.40 | Aiiane | any target that was triggered directly by a keypress before can still be implemented in 1.0.5 |
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| 02:37.08 | CowBook|PR | using TargetPlayer() ? or something entirely different? |
| 02:37.14 | Aiiane | gameactiondata |
| 02:37.24 | CowBook|PR | is that documented in the wiki yet? |
| 02:37.30 | Aiiane | no idea |
| 02:37.41 | CowBook|PR | ok, the last time i checked it wasn't |
| 02:37.50 | CowBook|PR | i guess i'll have to fool around with it |
| 02:39.11 | CowBook|PR | do i need to use gameactiondata in combination with some kind of UI button, or can it be called in a macro? like in the simplest example /script GameActionData(Target-Mode, L"PlayerName")? |
| 02:39.28 | CowBook|PR | (i'm guessing at a pseudo-syntax here) |
| 02:40.38 | `Zypher | ok |
| 02:40.43 | `Zypher | I just went back thru my chat log |
| 02:40.47 | `Zypher | of whhat I've said |
| 02:40.52 | `Zypher | I didn't say sexytime |
| 02:41.45 | Aiiane | CowBook|PR: no, gameactiondata has to be associated with a window |
| 02:42.03 | Aiiane | (18:08:09) `Zypher: sexytime |
| 02:42.20 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I understand that |
| 02:42.31 | `Zypher | but (I) didn't say it |
| 02:42.34 | `Zypher | >.< |
| 02:42.53 | CowBook|PR | Aiiane: so i would have to create a window, associate gameactiondata with it, with a specific target.. then can i "click" that window via /script command? (to target the player via a macro)? |
| 02:43.09 | Aiiane | you can't "click" it via anything that would be typed in chat |
| 02:43.14 | CowBook|PR | hmmn. |
| 02:43.21 | Aiiane | or else it would sort of defeat the point of making it triggered by the player |
| 02:43.29 | Aiiane | given that chat can be triggered by addons |
| 02:43.43 | Aiiane | but you can associate a keybinding with the window, like I said already |
| 02:43.55 | CowBook|PR | ok. |
| 02:44.27 | CowBook|PR | too bad it can't be done in a macro.. but having a keybind will definitely make it work |
| 02:44.49 | CowBook|PR | that just sucks for people who like to click also, because now i need to make an actual clickable window for them |
| 02:44.55 | CowBook|PR | or just leave them hanging |
| 02:45.12 | Aiiane | not hard to make a window... |
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| 02:45.31 | CowBook|PR | right, but it can't go into their actionbars like all their other stuff |
| 02:45.40 | CowBook|PR | this is definitely a little bit of a bummer. |
| 02:46.07 | CowBook|PR | but not THAT big of a deal, since i only use keypresses, and everyone else can go screw, i suppose |
| 02:46.09 | CowBook|PR | heh |
| 02:46.15 | CowBook|PR | thanks for the info |
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| 02:48.24 | `Zypher | http://kotaku.com/5082572/old-republic-combat-will-be-choreographed-fabulous |
| 03:16.10 | MoronWar | Fabulous! |
| 03:16.16 | MoronWar | I mean... *cough* cool. |
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| 03:50.51 | Lefi | Hey All - |
| 03:51.00 | Lefi | got an svn question |
| 03:51.27 | Lefi | I am trying to comit through the non-ssl uri and i keep getting an error with no details |
| 03:51.39 | Lefi | in order to commit do I have to run through ssl? |
| 03:52.24 | Lefi | anyone there? |
| 03:58.09 | Aiiane | no, you don't have to run through ssl |
| 03:58.18 | Aiiane | what do you mean by 'error with no details' |
| 03:59.28 | Lefi | i am using RapidSVN |
| 03:59.47 | Aiiane | did you set your svn password? |
| 03:59.49 | Lefi | and when i commit i get the response "Error while performing action: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 03:59.52 | Lefi | and then nothing else |
| 04:00.05 | Lefi | oo no, how do i do that? |
| 04:00.24 | Aiiane | http://www.curseforge.com/home/repository-authorization/ |
| 04:00.33 | Lefi | thanks so muych aii |
| 04:00.50 | Lefi | ill take a look right after i get killed in serpents =) |
| 04:16.32 | Repo | 10au-stats: 03Lefi * r4 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:16.33 | Repo | Incorporation of AuctionAssist into AuctionStats Mian Trunk. |
| 04:16.37 | Repo | Also added the Set BuyOut Checkbox and removed the auto-search checkbox since auction stats does this already. |
| 04:16.50 | Lefi | thanks so much aii, that did the trick =) |
| 04:18.29 | `Zypher | Aiiane: beeeboop |
| 04:20.03 | Aiiane | o.o |
| 04:25.16 | `Zypher | O.o |
| 04:25.26 | `Zypher | o.O |
| 04:26.03 | `Zypher | Bebop episode 17 is awesome |
| 04:28.15 | `Zypher | <]:-| |
| 04:30.36 | `Zypher | <[:-D |
| 04:33.05 | Repo | 10qqdps: 03Lefi * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): Initial add of QQ DPS |
| 04:37.42 | Repo | 10qqdps: 03Lefi * r3 / (7 files in 2 directories): Initial add of QQ DPS |
| 04:38.40 | `Zypher | <]:-| |
| 04:38.44 | `Zypher | <[:-D |
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| 05:49.07 | `Zypher | so |
| 05:49.23 | `Zypher | I'm trying to get my brother to explain to me what is "fun" about World of Warcraft |
| 05:49.36 | `Zypher | and all he can tell me is... "it just is" |
| 05:53.21 | `Zypher | why can't anyone give me a good answer? |
| 06:08.45 | thanners | pfft, at least my friends are honest. |
| 06:08.52 | thanners | "it's not. i just can't stop playing." |
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| 06:21.45 | e2x | grr, damn im anoyed by the buged tome tactics |
| 06:24.53 | `Zypher | thanners: well my brother isn't the best at explaining himself |
| 06:32.53 | e2x | wow is fun, til you realize its just a cooperative game, and not a real mmorpg.. |
| 06:32.57 | e2x | there is no RvR |
| 06:33.30 | e2x | there is just 2 ways to play it.. Alliance or Horde, but there is no war between them.. only on paper, but not ingame |
| 06:34.20 | e2x | there is cities where you can hug your sworn enemy.. and trow him kisses |
| 06:42.50 | SHIFTnismo | not to mention you spend hours doing encounters for loot that is crap when they release an expansion |
| 06:54.09 | Repo | 10realmstatus: 03Aiiane * r1 / (6 files in 1 directory): Added tag 1.0 for changeset bd8c24ad4726 |
| 06:54.11 | Repo | Initial commit - RealmStatus displays an overview of all 3 pairings' victory point data in a single, easy-to-read window. |
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| 07:04.38 | Jenses | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:04.44 | Jenses | :< |
| 07:06.27 | Aiiane | you need to strip the grammar markup off the name you're sending to |
| 07:06.37 | Aiiane | otherwise it'll try to /tell Aiiane^F (for instance), which doesn't work |
| 07:06.43 | Jenses | oh, match! |
| 07:07.09 | Aiiane | tellName = tellName:match(L"([^^]+)^?([^^]*)") |
| 07:08.28 | Jenses | you are simply wonderful! |
| 07:08.28 | Jenses | <3 |
| 07:12.57 | Thunder_Child | Jenses, is people like you that make assholes like me a necesity |
| 07:13.27 | Jenses | probably |
| 07:13.28 | Jenses | :) |
| 07:13.50 | Thunder_Child | i mean how else will Aiiane be able to fit through doorways with such an inflated head |
| 07:14.17 | Aiiane | .. |
| 07:14.51 | Thunder_Child | XD |
| 07:15.10 | Thunder_Child | you know, you used to elipse me, now your just getting lazy |
| 07:15.25 | Thunder_Child | you're* |
| 07:15.42 | Aiiane | . |
| 07:15.54 | Jenses | bah, i really should learn to make a GUI, have never taken the time to learn it... |
| 07:15.56 | Thunder_Child | really lazy |
| 07:16.29 | Thunder_Child | $5 says Aiiane is trying to send a space.... |
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| 07:17.14 | Shaboo | hello |
| 07:17.19 | Aiiane | hi Shaboo |
| 07:17.26 | Thunder_Child | hello Shaboo |
| 07:17.40 | Shaboo | omg I went and asked a q on the wowuidev i'm such a goober |
| 07:18.07 | Shaboo | I want my mod to pop up or hide when I enter a senario. I know how to check to see if I'm in one but what do i use a a trigger, obviously I don;t want to check every second |
| 07:18.35 | Jenses | hmm |
| 07:18.36 | Shaboo | I also want it to pop when I enter an RvR zone for example |
| 07:18.42 | Jenses | i think theres an event for that |
| 07:18.47 | Shaboo | I know how to check when in senario |
| 07:19.08 | Shaboo | so u listen for an event somehow ? |
| 07:19.13 | Jenses | SCENARIO_BEGIN? |
| 07:19.31 | Thunder_Child | i think thats when it starts |
| 07:19.32 | Jenses | aye RegisterEventHandler(SCENARIO_BEGIN, Your.Function) |
| 07:19.37 | Thunder_Child | not when you enter |
| 07:19.45 | Shaboo | ah |
| 07:19.46 | Jenses | hmm |
| 07:19.55 | Thunder_Child | i could be wrong though |
| 07:20.00 | Jenses | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Event_List_S |
| 07:20.05 | Jenses | all the scenario events :P |
| 07:20.35 | Aiiane | scenario_begin fires when you enter a scenario |
| 07:21.28 | Shaboo | ah.. my mod also used in RvR mayne I should check for pvp flag |
| 07:23.39 | Shaboo | I'll try using PLAYER_RVR_FLAG_UPDATED think it will trigger for when you walk into RvR zones an senario then |
| 07:24.25 | Aiiane | :) |
| 07:24.53 | Jenses | see you all in an hour! |
| 07:25.07 | Shaboo | I made a mod called ZoneDefender, it basically let's you make calls like "The Light House 3 incoming" problem is I'm only level 10 is the mod going to be useable in may of the more advanced mods? |
| 07:25.37 | Shaboo | mods = senarios |
| 07:26.20 | Aiiane | sure |
| 07:27.30 | Thunder_Child | Shaboo, will it work on an open rvr server? |
| 07:28.25 | Shaboo | I assume so, it just uses zones at the moment and makes calls based on a button pressed |
| 07:28.44 | Shaboo | but are you saying that RvR flag is not updated on an open rvr server ? |
| 07:30.41 | Thunder_Child | i dont know, thats my question |
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| 07:31.49 | Zachius | so how do i turn logging on again? |
| 07:35.45 | Shaboo | I do /debug in the chat window then you should see a button |
| 07:36.44 | Zachius | yeah i turned that on but it does not weem to work |
| 07:36.56 | Aiiane | you will get at least 1 rvr flag update event when the player logs into to an orvr server |
| 07:37.13 | Zachius | ie nothing is logged to wardirectoy/logs |
| 07:37.14 | Aiiane | Zachius: type this in chat |
| 07:37.20 | Aiiane | oh, that |
| 07:37.22 | Aiiane | that's separate |
| 07:37.47 | Zachius | so where does the debug window log to? |
| 07:37.50 | Aiiane | if you want actual text logs dumped out of the game you need to do TextLogSetIncrementalSaving("UiLog", true, "logs\uilog.log") |
| 07:37.52 | Aiiane | or some similar |
| 07:38.10 | Zachius | right ok thanks |
| 07:38.33 | Aiiane | keep in mind though that it will dump a /lot/ of stuff |
| 07:38.35 | Zachius | is the only wya to import data into the game LUA files atm? |
| 07:38.53 | Aiiane | mostly |
| 07:52.43 | Repo | 10orcanizer: 03skyflash * r21 / (4 files in 1 directory): Update for new patch |
| 07:54.06 | Repo | 10pvpjoiner: 03skyflash * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): Update for new patch |
| 07:55.18 | Aiiane | Quantum mechanics: it makes sense! For some sense of the word sense. |
| 07:56.47 | Thunder_Child | i hate puns |
| 07:58.01 | Repo | 10xhud: 03talvinen * r11 xHUDGUI.lua: added some more fonts and variables window (this time!) |
| 07:58.35 | Repo | 10xhud: 03talvinen 041.5.2 * r12 : tagged as 1.5.2 |
| 08:01.21 | Shaboo | hmm I can;t find an api that suits, dose libslash let you make an event so that you can fire an action when the chat channel changes ? |
| 08:01.31 | Aiiane | no |
| 08:01.49 | Shaboo | bugga |
| 08:02.15 | Aiiane | you'd need to hook the channel-switch function yourself |
| 08:02.38 | Shaboo | damn I'm not that smart lol, |
| 08:02.59 | Aiiane | EA_ChatWindow.SwitchToChatChannel |
| 08:03.35 | Aiiane | ~warapi |
| 08:03.35 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, warapi is http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 08:03.42 | Aiiane | ^ there's a page on hooking there |
| 08:04.26 | Thunder_Child | ~literal warapi |
| 08:04.27 | purl | "warapi" is "http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API" |
| 08:05.21 | Thunder_Child | purl, no, warapi is <reply> http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 08:05.21 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 08:05.24 | Thunder_Child | ~warapi |
| 08:05.25 | purl | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 08:07.19 | Shaboo | okies thanks |
| 08:08.25 | Repo | 10xhud: 03talvinen * r13 xHUDGUI.lua: added some more fonts (I think I should have it now, zomg) |
| 08:08.45 | Repo | 10xhud: 03talvinen 041.5.3 * r14 : tagged as 1.5.3 |
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| 08:57.31 | Aiiane | there's an interesting argu....discussion of addons going on at WHA. :P http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182113&page=13 |
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| 09:21.08 | Thunder_Child | awwwww Aiiane, stop inviting idiots to IRC |
| 09:21.30 | Thunder_Child | we have enough of them |
| 09:21.57 | Nechckn | Like that darn Nechckn person... what a dork |
| 09:26.29 | SHIFTnismo | what can white lions hold in their left hand? |
| 09:30.34 | Aiiane | white lions can hold things in their left hand? |
| 09:30.54 | shockbeta | ... I hold my tongue |
| 09:31.56 | SHIFTnismo | aw come on |
| 09:32.02 | SHIFTnismo | that was a perfect setup |
| 09:32.12 | shockbeta | yes it was |
| 09:33.21 | intimation | ah, im tired |
| 09:34.02 | Exmortem | I don't want an API nerf. :( |
| 09:34.24 | intimation | saw api nerf comming before game was even out |
| 09:34.37 | intimation | *coming |
| 09:34.43 | Aiiane | Heh. As did I, but hey. :) |
| 09:34.53 | Exmortem | Isn't it already so nerfed? :/ |
| 09:35.22 | shockbeta | So if there a listing of the API changes somewhere? Haven't really been paying attention to the chat in here. Keep meaning to hop on the PTR. |
| 09:35.40 | Aiiane | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Patch_changes |
| 09:35.46 | intimation | it's already nerfed in the sense of what you can do with it but they had that intention from the beginning.. they released and saw the 928432432 ways to exploit |
| 09:35.53 | shockbeta | lol was just getting ready to go there. thanks Aiiane |
| 09:37.02 | shockbeta | This isn't an addon breaking update right? |
| 09:37.20 | shockbeta | no major changes that will affect a lot of addons? |
| 09:37.45 | Aiiane | aside from TargetPlayer |
| 09:37.56 | shockbeta | I stay away from target and combat addons:p |
| 09:38.13 | shockbeta | lol they break too much from my experience during patches:p |
| 09:39.13 | shockbeta | Even actionbar/button addons I try to stay away from. I still have nightmares from new WoW pathces that completely breaks them and then you're stuck with default again, then have to relayout all your bars yet again once an udpate comes... |
| 09:39.42 | intimation | yea i stay away from those mods too |
| 09:39.48 | intimation | just too much trouble |
| 09:40.05 | shockbeta | Oh Aiiane or anyone really. I've been getting a weird error from War lately. not all the time. but once every couple days it seems. |
| 09:40.26 | shockbeta | Application popup: WAR.exe - No Disk : There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk1\DR22. |
| 09:40.55 | shockbeta | makes me scared, but there are no errors in eventvwr for my drives. |
| 09:41.23 | shockbeta | the last part \DR22 is random nto always the same one |
| 09:43.48 | shockbeta | I take that back. nto so random. it's only been one of two.. DR4 or DR22 |
| 09:47.12 | oval- | about what you know or who you know, debate, although who is the answer |
| 09:47.59 | oval- | veterans day today |
| 09:48.25 | shockbeta | Yeah I"m honoring them with a good day off work:D |
| 09:48.48 | oval- | lol i'm honoring them with a good day at work |
| 09:49.15 | oval- | still thinking about joining the services myself |
| 09:49.43 | shockbeta | Thought about, not happening for me:p |
| 09:49.46 | shockbeta | lol |
| 09:49.55 | shockbeta | I like private life too much:p |
| 09:51.46 | Shaboo | testing events but dosn;t seem to work for me dose this look right RegisterEventHandler(PLAYER_RVR_FLAG_UPDATED, ZoneDefender.Popup1) |
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| 09:53.39 | shockbeta | Think you need to add more to the first part |
| 09:54.19 | Shaboo | ah ok thx |
| 09:54.50 | shockbeta | SystemData.Events.PLAYER_RVR_FLAG_UPDATED |
| 10:02.34 | shockbeta | So if you're copying to the PTS you don't need to empty out all your mailboxes right? That's just if you want it on the PTS right. the way it's worded it makes it sound like they delete all your crap from both:p |
| 10:02.41 | SHIFTnismo | night everyone |
| 10:04.13 | Aiiane | night SHIFTnismo |
| 10:07.54 | oval- | get it? |
| 10:08.13 | oval- | <-comedian |
| 10:08.53 | Shaboo | thx shock |
| 10:09.06 | shockbeta | n/p |
| 10:11.33 | shockbeta | Anyone have any idea why there is no career trainer in war camps? |
| 10:11.52 | shockbeta | oversight or by design? |
| 10:13.24 | Aiiane | probably the same reason there weren't rally masters originally either |
| 10:13.33 | Aiiane | wanting to give people a reason to go other places besides the warcamp :P |
| 10:13.59 | shockbeta | yeah, but then they're trying to bring people to them to do orvr... kinda self defeating logic... |
| 10:14.59 | shockbeta | it's not that it prevents peopel from going other places. and I tell you what I don't ever want to have to run forever ot o train.. so all that make sme do is spend some money and take a trip to IC instead of running half way across a map:p |
| 10:15.29 | shockbeta | I was bound to nordland for the longest time since there was a trainer and a fp and a rally master right htere. lol |
| 10:23.11 | Aiiane | I bind to whatever quest hub I'm at |
| 10:23.17 | Aiiane | if I need a flight master, I have guild recall scrolls |
| 10:23.26 | shockbeta | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.35 | e2x | is www.wardb.com working for you guys? |
| 10:27.09 | Aiiane | nop, seems to be down atm |
| 10:27.19 | e2x | dang, thx |
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| 10:54.38 | Repo | 10pvpjoiner: 03skyflash * r14 CorePvPJoiner.lua: Update for new patch |
| 11:19.58 | shockbeta | Anyone know what GameData.Player.Experience.curXpEarned and curXpNeeded reports when you hit lvl 40? |
| 11:20.12 | shockbeta | I assume needed is 0, but what about earned? |
| 11:20.44 | Aiiane | I don't have a 40 yet, unforutnately |
| 11:22.35 | Aiiane | about to ding 36, need 2.6% more |
| 11:23.52 | shockbeta | I'm thinking they both probably report 0, which is why people are gettign weird string on the label |
| 11:24.01 | shockbeta | 0/0 * 100 |
| 11:24.18 | shockbeta | lua> print(0/0*100) |
| 11:24.18 | lua_bot | shockbeta: nan |
| 11:24.22 | shockbeta | ... |
| 11:24.33 | shockbeta | lua> print(tostring(0/0*100)) |
| 11:24.34 | lua_bot | shockbeta: nan |
| 11:25.05 | Aiiane | nan = Not A Number |
| 11:25.16 | shockbeta | yeah... but it's displaying weird in war |
| 11:25.40 | shockbeta | Experience: 0/0 (-1.#J%) |
| 11:25.57 | Aiiane | yep, that's just how nan translates to a wstring |
| 11:26.12 | shockbeta | oh.. lol okay easy fix then:p |
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| 11:37.11 | e2x | is anyone familiar with the zone: cinderfall? |
| 11:38.38 | Repo | 10pvpjoiner: 03skyflash * r15 CorePvPJoiner.lua: Update for new patch |
| 11:38.39 | Repo | Added RvR flag option |
| 11:39.05 | Aiiane | why do you ask, e2x? |
| 11:39.43 | e2x | im suposed to kill Ogres there for a quest, and i dont see any ogre at all :( |
| 11:40.05 | e2x | Gutbash Ogre |
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| 11:51.19 | Aiiane | sleepytime for sleepyaii, night~ |
| 11:56.34 | e2x | night |
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| 13:05.57 | Shaboo | nite guy's thx for the help |
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| 14:51.47 | MoronWar | I love the comments on Aii's realmstatus mod. |
| 14:52.43 | Felyza | i really hope they put more effort into fixing the trees than they are with engineers and magi after dumbing down their saving grace, again |
| 14:54.19 | Felyza | adding a cast time, increasing cooldown, making base targets 6 with ability to block, dodge, or disrupt them and then LOWERING damage of 1 engineer ability in the tree and not touching the magus tree makes the entire tree pointless |
| 14:54.35 | Felyza | (electromagnet and rift changes) |
| 14:54.51 | MoronWar | I'm only in t2 and I'm glad those got nerfed. |
| 14:54.53 | MoronWar | :) |
| 14:55.10 | Felyza | you've never played a magus or engineer i take it? |
| 14:55.18 | MoronWar | Why would I bother? |
| 14:56.12 | Felyza | Everyone's been screaming 'nerf' to those 2 abilities, and now that they are, it completely ruins the tree, by taking those, they REALLY gimped everything else they can do, and Mythic is doing nothing to un-gimp the rest of the tree |
| 14:57.26 | Felyza | Mythic's way to 'fix' the tree is lower damage for engineers in that tree, and ignore the most underpowered tree for magus |
| 14:57.32 | MoronWar | So there are going to be less engineers / magus? |
| 14:58.24 | Felyza | After these changes go live, if I don't have BW full throttle damage to my ticks in grenadier and changing (engineer and magus here) then you won't see me as one anymore. |
| 14:59.12 | MoronWar | It is never good when changes make people change their class. |
| 14:59.26 | MoronWar | They hit zealot hard, but not enough for me to change though. |
| 14:59.26 | Felyza | Its really that bad |
| 14:59.36 | MoronWar | afk a few. |
| 15:00.24 | Felyza | Everyone has been screaming about rift and electromagnet, except the people playing the classes with them, because the people playing the classes with them realize, it was a 'saving grace' to a completely useless otherwise tree |
| 15:01.23 | Felyza | With the ap cost increase to the changing/grenadier lines, sure, they will do more damage per tick, but overall possible damage will be less since they will be able to cast far less of them. |
| 15:02.10 | Exmortem | I thought Rift and Electro were fine. |
| 15:02.49 | talvinen | anyone having the morale values for all 4 levels? wardb isnt loading for me =/ |
| 15:02.59 | Felyza | If I stack full tilt gear towards their damage (ballistics for engineer or int for my magus) then, with the ap cost so drastically increased, I am going to need to see full combustion BW dot ticks or else the class becomes pointless. |
| 15:03.45 | Felyza | talvinen, its not loading for me either |
| 15:04.09 | talvinen | I remember Morale 4 unlocking at 3200 Morale |
| 15:04.15 | talvinen | But I'd need all the values |
| 15:05.01 | Felyza | The biggest issue with dots is that each tick will be able to break root (3 dots on a person and they can pretty much ignore root) |
| 15:07.44 | Felyza | Sigh, all the class needed was the re-look at damage bonus applied from stats. It was applying based on Damage per Cast Time, instead of Damage per Cast Time / Duration, and with the fix, they are drastically reducing everything else the 2 classes can do. |
| 15:09.50 | Felyza | Sigh |
| 15:12.29 | Felyza | I've been playing advocate for the game for a while with friends, and its getting harder and harder to keep friends interested, since few of us chose pure dps or healing classes, and so many complainers think every class is suppesed to be a pure dps or healer that so many aspects are getting nerfed to pave the way for turning hybrids into pure dps |
| 15:12.49 | talvinen | lua> 453.2 + 15*0.72 |
| 15:12.49 | lua_bot | talvinen: 464 |
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| 15:23.55 | talvinen | name of a simple tintable frame template? |
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| 15:26.35 | Felyza | sec |
| 15:27.12 | Felyza | EA_FullResizeImage_TintableSolidBackground |
| 15:27.19 | talvinen | ty :) |
| 15:27.57 | Felyza | its a Full Resize Image, not frame, just anchor to topleft/topleft and bottomright/bottomright |
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| 15:32.48 | Felyza | I wish I could at least get into local ui test mode during patches. |
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| 16:46.16 | Noctys | Downloading test-server right now. Does anyone know if it uses diffrenent folders for addons and saved variables? |
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| 16:53.02 | Noctys | lua> a=#main[1] print(a) |
| 16:53.02 | lua_bot | Noctys: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'main' (a nil value) |
| 16:54.10 | Daegalus | Hey all |
| 17:02.59 | Noctys | Hi Deag.... Sorta dead around here today. Almost seems like a Monday. |
| 17:03.25 | Daegalus | Physics is so boring when you know thematerial already and tge teacher drones |
| 17:03.33 | Daegalus | Lol ya |
| 17:04.32 | Lefi | what physics teacher doesn't drone? |
| 17:04.45 | Daegalus | If i seem late on replies, its cause im on my iphone and edge is slow (3g doesnt work inside classes) |
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| 17:05.19 | Daegalus | My high school physics AP teacher, he rocked |
| 17:08.14 | Noctys | I had a good phyics teacher at the U. He liked to blow things up in the middle of longer lectures to keep us awake. But usually did a good job the way he presented it. |
| 17:09.22 | Daegalus | Sound like my HS teacher, my college one....zzzzzzz |
| 17:10.00 | Noctys | lua> main = {} if (main < 1.5) then print("whaaaa!") |
| 17:10.01 | lua_bot | Noctys: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 17:10.06 | Noctys | lua> main = {} if (main < 1.5) then print("whaaaa!") end |
| 17:10.06 | lua_bot | Noctys: luabot:1: attempt to compare table with number |
| 17:10.19 | Noctys | lua> main = {} if (main.this < 1.5) then print("whaaaa!") end |
| 17:10.19 | lua_bot | Noctys: luabot:1: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 17:11.28 | Lefi | dude, you can run lua in here? |
| 17:11.29 | Noctys | My my teacher blew too much stuff up and went back to high-school... |
| 17:11.47 | Noctys | yup... good for testing bits of code. |
| 17:11.56 | Lefi | just prefix with lua> |
| 17:11.58 | Lefi | ? |
| 17:12.30 | Noctys | yes... Don't do it too much when people are trying to talk or they get pissy. :) --- You can also open up a chat with the lua bot I think and do it in there., |
| 17:12.55 | Noctys | lua> main = {} if (main.this < 1.5 or main.this == nil) then print("whaaaa!") end |
| 17:12.56 | lua_bot | Noctys: luabot:1: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 17:13.50 | Lefi | i am so happy now lol |
| 17:13.59 | Daegalus | Bah my head is flooded with ideas. I have an entire mmo planned out, 2sub project single player games to get my foot in the door, a book, an art piece, and so much more |
| 17:13.59 | Daegalus | lua> print ('only core lua stuff works, no War stuff') |
| 17:13.59 | lua_bot | Daegalus: only core lua stuff works, no War stuff |
| 17:14.09 | Lefi | is there a way to enter into a text field instead of text box? |
| 17:14.31 | Daegalus | Nope, onlu 1 line messages |
| 17:15.16 | Daegalus | But you can techniquelly put multiple lines on 1line |
| 17:15.58 | Lefi | yea, i know, semicolons work =) |
| 17:16.50 | Daegalus | lua> a=3;b=15;for a,b do print(a..', ') end |
| 17:16.50 | lua_bot | Daegalus: luabot:1: 'in' expected near 'do' |
| 17:17.47 | Daegalus | Bah whatever :P font feel like retyping it |
| 17:18.12 | Noctys | Anyone know how to do a compare string to check for nil and value at the same time (not splitting it up into to compares)? |
| 17:18.45 | Noctys | I don't think I would want to do any coding from an iphone. |
| 17:19.36 | Daegalus | Check the string functions. String.find etc, might be a string.compare |
| 17:20.05 | Daegalus | Coding on a phone is fun though :D |
| 17:21.01 | Daegalus | lua> print("I r battle programmer Shirase!') |
| 17:21.01 | lua_bot | Daegalus: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 17:21.21 | Daegalus | Dang messed up |
| 17:21.31 | talvinen | lua> a = "String" b = nil return a and b and a == b |
| 17:21.32 | lua_bot | talvinen: nil |
| 17:21.43 | talvinen | lua> a = "String" b = "Blah" return a and b and a == b |
| 17:21.43 | lua_bot | talvinen: false |
| 17:21.47 | talvinen | lua> a = "String" b = "String" return a and b and a == b |
| 17:21.49 | lua_bot | talvinen: true |
| 17:21.50 | Daegalus | Yay lab time. Zzzzz |
| 17:21.56 | talvinen | @Noctys |
| 17:22.59 | Daegalus | Oh i forgot about that |
| 17:23.14 | Noctys | thanks talvinen... I think I can make that work out. What I'm tyring to do is something like this: |
| 17:23.17 | Noctys | lua> main = {} if (main.this < 1.5 or main.this == nil) then print("whaaaa!") end |
| 17:23.17 | lua_bot | Noctys: luabot:1: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 17:23.47 | talvinen | lua> main = {} if (not main.this or main.this < 1.5) then print("whaaaa!") end |
| 17:23.48 | lua_bot | talvinen: whaaaa! |
| 17:24.13 | Noctys | wrong order? |
| 17:24.15 | talvinen | Just make sure that either the first is true, or at least all are valid |
| 17:24.16 | Noctys | for me? |
| 17:24.22 | talvinen | different order: |
| 17:24.28 | Noctys | K... Thanks. |
| 17:24.32 | Lefi | yea, it cascads until it finds an exit value ... |
| 17:24.38 | talvinen | lua> main = {} if (main.this < 1.5 or not main.this) then print("whaaaa!") end |
| 17:24.38 | lua_bot | talvinen: luabot:1: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 17:24.54 | talvinen | it only checks the 2nd term if the first is false |
| 17:25.09 | Daegalus | Now the true test is if you can make Pie == cake with that function without changing a thing |
| 17:25.35 | Daegalus | You can unravel space and time |
| 17:25.35 | Lefi | the cake is a lie!!! |
| 17:25.38 | talvinen | You'll only get cake == lie |
| 17:25.41 | talvinen | and I'm too slow :[ |
| 17:25.47 | Daegalus | Lol |
| 17:27.18 | Noctys | Has anyone seen that movie Eagle Eye??? |
| 17:27.26 | Lefi | yup |
| 17:27.35 | Daegalus | Yup |
| 17:27.39 | Noctys | And you've played Portal too? |
| 17:27.47 | Daegalus | Yup |
| 17:27.49 | Lefi | yup |
| 17:27.59 | Noctys | Notice the computers are the same? |
| 17:28.07 | Daegalus | Yup |
| 17:28.19 | Noctys | I thought that was cool... |
| 17:28.21 | Lefi | yea, same voice actor |
| 17:28.25 | Noctys | Was it... |
| 17:28.30 | Noctys | I didn't know that! |
| 17:28.39 | Lefi | i think it was |
| 17:29.07 | Noctys | I think that movie probably ment a lot more to people who played portals. |
| 17:30.45 | Daegalus | Hmm i need to decide what to write my games in >_> so far Java seems the best but Ardor3D isnt out and JMonkey is a bit of a mess right now |
| 17:30.51 | Repo | 10orcanizer: 03skyflash * r22 Orcanizer.lua: Update for new patch |
| 17:33.32 | Daegalus | Or i can go the C#/XNA route but it wont be cross platform |
| 17:33.32 | Daegalus | C# |
| 17:33.44 | Chryzo | actually it is |
| 17:33.49 | Chryzo | PC and XBox hahaha :) |
| 17:34.02 | Chryzo | that is cross platform :) |
| 17:34.06 | Chryzo | -> [-] |
| 17:34.06 | Noctys | And Zune |
| 17:34.15 | Jenses | c++?.. |
| 17:34.19 | Chryzo | and windows mobile thingy |
| 17:34.38 | Chryzo | Daegalus: what kind of game you wanna do ? |
| 17:34.40 | Lefi | if you are ok with .net 2.0, theres mono =) |
| 17:36.21 | Daegalus | Well, an MMO but before that a Tower defense and dota like standalones |
| 17:36.38 | Jenses | or use c++, its pretty much what every game is made in at the moment |
| 17:36.58 | MoronWar | MMO: 10 kill boar 20 loot boar 30 goto 10. All done! |
| 17:37.39 | MoronWar | Space MMO: 10 shoot space boar 20 loot space boar 30 goto 10. All done! |
| 17:37.41 | Noctys | I don't think that counts as an MMO, you need to get other player data at the same time |
| 17:37.53 | MoronWar | All MMOs are soloable nowadays thanks to wow. |
| 17:37.53 | Daegalus | Ya but i know little C/C++ and i know java. Im taking C in college but ya, much prefer java or a OO language |
| 17:38.28 | Jenses | still, the majority of games are c++, and its really not that hard to learn |
| 17:38.46 | Lefi | C++ is an OO language |
| 17:39.01 | MoronWar | http://www.garagegames.com/ , why reinvent the wheel? |
| 17:39.35 | Chryzo | depends if you want an easy graphic system or not |
| 17:39.36 | Jenses | .net languages are mostly for apps, games can be made, and thats what Microsoft is strifing for, but the speed advantage is still for c++ |
| 17:39.40 | Noctys | I messed with XNA a bit. It's actually pretty cool. C# is a good language and XNA get's rid of most of the .net stuff |
| 17:39.43 | Daegalus | I know jenses, but java is on the rise for game dev, and to me C++ is pseudo OO |
| 17:39.47 | Chryzo | C++ requires QT or the like if you want to be cross platform |
| 17:40.13 | Jenses | C# is on for game programming too |
| 17:40.19 | Jenses | never seem a game in java tho |
| 17:40.33 | Chryzo | C# with XNA yeah, C# with D3D not that much |
| 17:40.35 | Noctys | Tons of web-based games in Java |
| 17:40.41 | Jenses | ah |
| 17:40.44 | Chryzo | though, the next DirectX version might be interesting |
| 17:40.44 | Jenses | but commercial? |
| 17:40.49 | Noctys | You could also go with Flash... lots of potitial there. |
| 17:40.56 | Daegalus | Check out JMonkeyEngine and the screenshots/demos of games being made with it |
| 17:41.16 | Zachius | Daegalus: If you are good with Java and actually understand how pointers and the like work then you will not have a problem picking up c++ |
| 17:41.24 | Jenses | exactly |
| 17:41.34 | Daegalus | All commercial by NCSoft, Jadestone, etc |
| 17:42.16 | Daegalus | Hmm i just dont feel like learning another language. Also i want to make the MMO x-platform |
| 17:42.30 | Noctys | One of the big things you need to think of with an MMO is hosting, bandwidth and just getting the game out there and getting people to play. If you can make it in Java and make it playable over the web you will get a lot more followers just because of the ease of acess. |
| 17:42.33 | Daegalus | I can alwats keep it opengl and stuff |
| 17:42.36 | Jenses | c++ is crossplatform |
| 17:42.38 | Jenses | :p |
| 17:43.14 | Daegalus | I know, but you have ti specufically weite ut ti be cross platform |
| 17:43.15 | Jenses | yeah, the thing with games arent the language, its the marketing |
| 17:44.43 | Daegalus | True, and its not going to be a rush job, ive got many years ahead of me in terms of wruting it |
| 17:45.17 | Jenses | why dont you learn all of them then |
| 17:45.26 | Jenses | sticking with one will just make you useless in the long run |
| 17:45.28 | Jenses | :) |
| 17:45.58 | Daegalus | Technichally true. I do know well over 5-6 niw why not 7 |
| 17:47.27 | Jenses | once you got the basics its easily doable, indeed |
| 17:48.34 | Daegalus | Im still debating on if i should write my own engine or use a already made one |
| 17:48.55 | Jenses | depends if it great |
| 17:49.00 | Jenses | why re-invent the wheel |
| 17:49.14 | Noctys | Rather than working on your MMO I'd start work on your single player games -- Hopefully one of them is an RPG. You will learn a ton. The hardest part about programming a MMO is the database storage and getting everything lined up the way you want. At least that is what I found. |
| 17:49.37 | Daegalus | Also i have to consider Project Darkstar, it has a C++ api even though its in java |
| 17:50.25 | Daegalus | Noctys: i know hence my sub projects first, i know i cant just jump into it straight out |
| 17:51.18 | Noctys | I didn't -- tried to start with an online MMO (ajax) -- quickly found out that I was not up to the task. |
| 17:51.59 | Zachius | lol an mmo using ajax.... interesting idea.... :P |
| 17:52.09 | Noctys | There are a couple out there already. |
| 17:52.28 | Jenses | mmhm |
| 17:52.42 | Zachius | well MMO can be a VERY broad term ... |
| 17:53.32 | Zachius | to my mind creating a MMO that is anything like the tradational concept of an MMO singlehandledly is not really feasable. |
| 17:53.54 | Jenses | or possible |
| 17:54.17 | Jenses | well, probably is, but not smart, would be outdated at release because itd take you a decade to build |
| 17:54.25 | Noctys | Not MMO like WAR or WoW... Think more 2D & Text... More like a MUD with maps & graphics |
| 17:54.40 | Daegalus | Not really true, there is a guy the has made pretty much a full fledge mmo solo and it only been 6 months |
| 17:54.44 | Jenses | oh :P |
| 17:54.50 | Daegalus | Full 3D |
| 17:55.09 | Zachius | .... linky ??? I doubt it has much content. |
| 17:55.13 | Noctys | I'm talking about the ajax model... Sorry for inserting confusion. |
| 17:55.13 | Daegalus | With his own engine from what i read |
| 17:55.20 | Jenses | well the most important thing about game programming are nothing of those |
| 17:55.29 | Jenses | its being original and having a good idea :) |
| 17:56.00 | Jenses | look at Bejewled for example, made 23 billion dollars, its a bloody puzzle, but people enjoyed it |
| 17:56.13 | Noctys | Still one of my favorite mindless games. |
| 17:56.29 | Zachius | some kind of crazy hybrid with some decent innovation could work though, as is demonstrated by games like sledrider (think that is the name) and world of goo. |
| 17:56.31 | Daegalus | I forgot the link off the top if my head. Im on my phone. I think it wad called love. Check massively.com search like single person mmo |
| 17:57.07 | Jenses | but really, just start off with what ever comes to mind, experience and everything else will come! :) |
| 17:57.28 | Zachius | ... in 2 days i will right nw i am cramming for an exam i have in 4 hours. and i still have to get some sleep tonight :P |
| 17:57.37 | Jenses | ... |
| 17:57.43 | Daegalus | I got 40 forum pages on concept work done already |
| 17:57.56 | Daegalus | Of * |
| 17:58.06 | Jenses | snap |
| 17:58.09 | Jenses | thats a lot :P |
| 17:58.53 | Jenses | well, the most user friendly is probably XNA, and with C# 4 and .net4 xna studio 2 upcomming, you'll have a lot to learn |
| 17:59.00 | Daegalus | Fron background story to game mechanics to classes, everything |
| 17:59.39 | Noctys | Someone should make a Portals MMO |
| 17:59.44 | Jenses | o_o |
| 17:59.47 | Daegalus | Ok, but C# and XNA eliminate crossplatform |
| 17:59.55 | `Zypher | isn't xna microsoft? |
| 18:00.02 | Jenses | it is |
| 18:00.03 | Noctys | Shooting holes under peoples feet & drop them into lava... |
| 18:00.03 | Daegalus | Mhmm |
| 18:00.13 | `Zypher | then throw xna out the window |
| 18:00.17 | Jenses | hah |
| 18:00.28 | Zachius | not a ms hater :P |
| 18:00.37 | `Zypher | people always limit themselves into microsoft only platforms |
| 18:00.38 | Jenses | a quickie: how to toggle time stamps, |
| 18:00.47 | `Zypher | more and more games are being converted after the fact to OpenGL |
| 18:00.50 | `Zypher | why not start there |
| 18:00.59 | `Zypher | and have it be able to run on all platforms |
| 18:01.06 | Zachius | generally because it is much simpler and 99.99% of people who game use windows anyhow. |
| 18:01.14 | Daegalus | Its what im planning zypher |
| 18:01.21 | Jenses | my god, now i wasted another hour, have to do maths -_- |
| 18:01.22 | `Zypher | PS3 is OpengL |
| 18:01.23 | `Zypher | Windows can run OpenGL |
| 18:01.34 | Zachius | because OpenGL performance is pretty poor afaik |
| 18:01.37 | Daegalus | Jogl, lwjgl anf jme are all opengl java |
| 18:01.48 | `Zypher | Zachius: that is not true whatsoever |
| 18:01.57 | Daegalus | Zachius: incorrect |
| 18:02.06 | `Zypher | the diff between OpenGL and D3D is so negligeable |
| 18:02.13 | Daegalus | Opengl in most cases beats dx |
| 18:02.22 | Zachius | well then how come no graphic intensive games use OpenGL anymore? |
| 18:02.40 | `Zypher | you already stated it before |
| 18:02.48 | `Zypher | Most people use MS |
| 18:02.51 | Daegalus | Because ogl 3 isnt out and ogl 2 cant compete with dx 10 |
| 18:03.05 | Zachius | well then my point is valid |
| 18:03.34 | Daegalus | But we are comparing dx9 and ogl 2 |
| 18:03.38 | `Zypher | Daegalus: OGL 3 came out in August |
| 18:03.49 | Daegalus | Really?? Nice |
| 18:03.54 | `Zypher | lol ya |
| 18:04.11 | `Zypher | Zachius: have you ever played a game with both OpenGL and D3D rendering? |
| 18:04.19 | Daegalus | Last i checked, it was still mysterious and unkown |
| 18:04.40 | Daegalus | Wow is opengl and dx9 |
| 18:04.46 | `Zypher | yes |
| 18:04.52 | Daegalus | 0 difference betwren both |
| 18:04.52 | Zachius | not recently no. |
| 18:04.54 | `Zypher | but I'm asking him if he's ever played a game like that |
| 18:04.58 | `Zypher | ok |
| 18:05.11 | `Zypher | the difference in rendering is almost indistinguiseable |
| 18:05.22 | `Zypher | I can't spell |
| 18:05.34 | Zachius | i am pretty sure that you will find the windows WoW client uses dx |
| 18:05.46 | `Zypher | Zachius: add -OpenGL |
| 18:05.57 | `Zypher | to the end of the process launch |
| 18:05.59 | Daegalus | It can usr both at your choice |
| 18:06.16 | `Zypher | or in game you can change between with |
| 18:06.25 | `Zypher | gxApi "OpenGL" |
| 18:06.28 | `Zypher | gxRestart |
| 18:06.39 | Zachius | what I am saying is that it seems to me that opengl is decreasing in popularity for commercial games not increasing.. for instance AFAIK ID does not use it anymore. |
| 18:06.58 | Zachius | anyhow I am going to stop making assumptions and actually study now. |
| 18:07.01 | `Zypher | Zachius: of course they do! |
| 18:07.13 | `Zypher | Ryan gordon is porting UT3 as we speak |
| 18:08.18 | `Zypher | le sigh |
| 18:08.47 | Daegalus | Well my choice is between Java or C++ |
| 18:08.56 | `Zypher | c++ of course |
| 18:09.01 | Zachius | as i said i am going to stop making assumption and jumping to conclusions now :P |
| 18:09.40 | Daegalus | Not that easy Zypher, Java is almost on par in performance as c++ atm |
| 18:09.43 | `Zypher | Daegalus: java, even with the best realtime compilers |
| 18:10.00 | `Zypher | will never run at the same speed as c++ |
| 18:10.12 | Daegalus | Doesnt matter in todays computing power. |
| 18:10.14 | `Zypher | but as computers get faster that speed diff will start to not matter |
| 18:10.20 | `Zypher | Daegalus: it still matters |
| 18:10.30 | `Zypher | it is still clearly slower |
| 18:10.31 | Daegalus | Tell that to the benchmarks |
| 18:10.47 | `Zypher | Daegalus: well |
| 18:10.55 | Daegalus | Look up jogl, lwjgl and jmonkeyengine |
| 18:11.13 | `Zypher | if it were up to me, I would write games in assembly |
| 18:11.35 | Daegalus | Lol good luck |
| 18:11.44 | Zachius | haha good luck with that |
| 18:11.47 | Jenses | Roller Coaster tycoon 1 |
| 18:11.53 | Jenses | 99% asm ;) |
| 18:12.22 | `Zypher | Daegalus: we should write a game in lolcode |
| 18:12.38 | `Zypher | or |
| 18:12.41 | `Zypher | brainfuck! |
| 18:12.45 | Noctys | Only issue with Java is it's not stand-alone. You endusers will have to download the Java SDK... Some people won't do that just to play your game. |
| 18:12.56 | Zachius | while assembly is good fun to write, I would hate to see any decent sized project in it :P |
| 18:13.08 | PenguinOfDoom | uh what |
| 18:13.14 | Zachius | ... no they would only need the jvm which almost everybody has |
| 18:13.17 | PenguinOfDoom | Noctys: You don't need to download the SDK to run Java applications |
| 18:13.31 | Noctys | Yes you do. |
| 18:13.32 | `Zypher | I still think c++ |
| 18:13.37 | Zachius | no u don't |
| 18:14.04 | Daegalus | Umn the jre i can add with my game, just like games add dx, physx, and other things |
| 18:14.08 | Noctys | If they want to run them outside of a web-browser they do. |
| 18:14.23 | PenguinOfDoom | Hey Noctys, what does the "S" in SDK stand for? |
| 18:14.26 | Daegalus | There are also ways to embed the jre |
| 18:14.27 | PenguinOfDoom | what about the "D" |
| 18:14.30 | Zachius | no JDK = java developer kit. |
| 18:15.04 | Zachius | the would need the JRE. which you need for running java applets as well hence most would already have it |
| 18:15.14 | Noctys | Then why don't other places do tha? There are several programs I have that wont run without it |
| 18:15.19 | `Zypher | JRE = java runtime env |
| 18:15.39 | Repo | 10abilityalert: 03Celestian * r16 AbilityAlert.lua: added options: |
| 18:15.40 | Repo | /aa wsctframe [1,2,3] |
| 18:15.41 | Zachius | such as? |
| 18:15.42 | Repo | /aa show [all|none] |
| 18:15.48 | Repo | filters now hide/display based on show all|none |
| 18:15.54 | Noctys | And the JRE was what I thought PoD was talking about. |
| 18:16.14 | PenguinOfDoom | The distinction is important |
| 18:16.15 | Noctys | Azurus is the first one that comes to mind |
| 18:16.17 | Repo | 10abilityalert: 03Celestian 04v2.8 * r17 : Tagging as v2.8 |
| 18:16.19 | PenguinOfDoom | JDK is up to what now, 300MB? |
| 18:16.26 | Noctys | Well, there is no SDK for java |
| 18:16.41 | Noctys | I assumed you meant the JRE becuase that is what I was thinking of. |
| 18:16.45 | Daegalus | Sdk == jdk |
| 18:16.48 | Noctys | I know |
| 18:16.51 | Jenses | a quickie: how to toggle chat timestamps? |
| 18:16.57 | Jenses | in lua ofc |
| 18:17.21 | `Zypher | lol |
| 18:18.00 | PenguinOfDoom | Jenses: Isn't that an option in the chat widget menu? |
| 18:18.07 | `Zypher | LogDisplaySetShowTimestamp() |
| 18:18.20 | `Zypher | which I think takes |
| 18:18.29 | `Zypher | "chat", true / false |
| 18:18.37 | Jenses | hmm, tried already |
| 18:20.21 | `Zypher | LogDisplaySetShowTimestamp("Combat", true) |
| 18:20.21 | `Zypher | worked for me once before |
| 18:20.21 | Noctys | Jenses: You are talking about from a programming standpoint right? |
| 18:20.21 | Jenses | yeh |
| 18:22.45 | `Zypher | Cairenn: welcome bawk |
| 18:23.08 | `Zypher | are you sure? |
| 18:23.15 | Cairenn | very |
| 18:23.21 | `Zypher | how did you check? |
| 18:23.49 | `Zypher | well thats cute now isn't it |
| 18:24.29 | Zachius | can't wait till thursday arvo... finish my exams for the semester... |
| 18:24.54 | Zachius | i have object orientated design and compiler design :-S |
| 18:26.37 | Noctys | Looks like tesing anything on the Test Server that needs scenarios is going to be impossible. =( |
| 18:27.44 | Daegalus | Yup, test server is dead |
| 18:28.19 | `Zypher | test testington |
| 18:29.29 | Cairenn | catnop? |
| 18:29.56 | Daegalus | Catnip |
| 18:30.04 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 18:30.07 | Daegalus | Im on a phone, pronevto typos |
| 18:34.05 | Repo | 10xhud: 03talvinen * r15 / (4 files in 1 directory): added morale bar |
| 18:34.06 | Repo | some bugfixes with default window hiding |
| 18:34.30 | Repo | 10xhud: 03talvinen 041.6 * r16 : tagged as 1.6 |
| 18:36.30 | Daegalus | So, whats everyone up yo |
| 18:36.45 | Jenses | trying to figure out how to show chat time stamps %¤#& |
| 18:37.07 | `Zypher | Daegalus: aparently scratching cat bellies |
| 18:38.06 | `Zypher | o.- |
| 18:38.20 | `Zypher | -.o |
| 18:38.38 | Daegalus | Someone is looking for attention :P |
| 18:39.07 | Darktao | O.o |
| 18:39.17 | `Zypher | -.- |
| 18:39.27 | `Zypher | Cairenn: is a cat now |
| 18:39.33 | Noctys | So what causes Repo to report in here? |
| 18:39.35 | Cairenn | now? |
| 18:39.44 | `Zypher | well |
| 18:39.47 | `Zypher | is a cat |
| 18:40.05 | Darktao | lol |
| 18:40.10 | Darktao | thats bad ass |
| 18:40.11 | `Zypher | Noctys: commits |
| 18:40.18 | `Zypher | or @s |
| 18:40.21 | Darktao | someone needs to market the teaching cats to type thing |
| 18:40.24 | `Zypher | @project war/squared |
| 18:40.25 | Repo | `Zypher: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/squared/. Squared. Game: WAR. Leader: Aiiane. Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 21/87 |
| 18:40.34 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 18:40.51 | Noctys | sometimes it does it on it's own though |
| 18:41.17 | Noctys | I thought it was just updates on Curseforge... But I've never seen it for any of my mods |
| 18:41.42 | `Zypher | Cairenn: are you one of those people who likes to act like an animal? |
| 18:42.08 | Cairenn | Noctys: http://war.mmoui.com/forums/faq.php?faq=svn#faq_cia |
| 18:42.13 | Daegalus | You guys act like you guys havent seen a guy pet a kitty |
| 18:42.19 | Darktao | lol |
| 18:42.33 | Darktao | `Zypher, you dont mean the furries do you? |
| 18:42.36 | Cairenn | Noctys: that's pretty standard |
| 18:42.40 | Daegalus | What female doesnt like acting like a cat? |
| 18:42.42 | `Zypher | Darktao: no |
| 18:42.54 | `Zypher | Darktao: different things |
| 18:42.55 | Darktao | http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/ScooterRooter/Motivators/furries.jpg |
| 18:42.56 | Darktao | :P |
| 18:43.17 | Cairenn | `Zypher: I'm not a furry, no, but I am very much female and you want to believe that we act like kitties when stroked properly ;) |
| 18:43.34 | `Zypher | Cairenn: I didn't mean furry |
| 18:43.47 | Daegalus | Lol, shes a fiesty one |
| 18:43.53 | Darktao | wow |
| 18:43.55 | Cairenn | you just have to be careful though, kitties have claws, too |
| 18:44.07 | `Zypher | oh noes |
| 18:44.11 | `Zypher | Ed just left the bebop! |
| 18:44.17 | Darktao | none of the typical "OMGzors A gierl!!1one! ell oh ell" |
| 18:44.18 | `Zypher | this episode makes me sad |
| 18:44.27 | Darktao | I love freenod |
| 18:44.32 | Darktao | freenode* |
| 18:45.27 | Darktao | I hate gamesurge =( |
| 18:45.33 | `Zypher | Cairenn: it's called puppy play or something like that |
| 18:45.36 | Daegalus | Darktao, most guys in here are mature enough not to play along with that stupid behavior. Especially with Aiiane |
| 18:45.49 | Darktao | Daegalus, that was my point, its refreshing |
| 18:46.40 | Cairenn | ah, so my behaviour is immature? |
| 18:46.47 | Darktao | lol |
| 18:46.57 | Daegalus | No its not, we never said that |
| 18:47.16 | `Zypher | Cairenn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pup-play |
| 18:47.36 | Daegalus | Was talking about the immaturity of most men |
| 18:47.37 | Darktao | ROFL |
| 18:47.46 | Cairenn | `Zypher: ewwww, no |
| 18:47.48 | Darktao | `Zypher, that is so much worse than furries |
| 18:48.12 | `Zypher | Cairenn: just curious |
| 18:48.14 | Darktao | makes me think of that "Pokemon are real" forum out there somewhere |
| 18:48.44 | Cairenn | no |
| 18:48.49 | `Zypher | I wanted to ask someone who is into that how it started... |
| 18:48.52 | *** join/#waruidev Geneshift|Lab (n=gene@cpe-66-66-249-241.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 18:49.06 | Cairenn | I just have fun joking and teasing :) |
| 18:49.14 | `Zypher | ;) |
| 18:50.08 | `Zypher | Episode 25! |
| 18:51.19 | Darktao | http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pokeclipse/index.php?act=idx |
| 18:51.23 | Darktao | fear them |
| 18:51.27 | Darktao | they are the real freaks |
| 18:51.28 | Darktao | :P |
| 18:51.46 | Cairenn | I've been running interface sites/IRC channels/etc for a very long time now, I'm a huge flirt, very comfortable with myself, takes some people by surprise if they don't already know me |
| 18:52.02 | Darktao | heh |
| 18:52.04 | `Zypher | Darktao: that picture |
| 18:52.08 | `Zypher | made me want to puke |
| 18:52.17 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 18:52.19 | Darktao | oh the posts are so much worse |
| 18:52.26 | Darktao | it has to be a huge joke |
| 18:52.32 | `Zypher | hopefully |
| 18:52.37 | Darktao | there is no way there is enough people that are that reatarded |
| 18:52.50 | `Zypher | but there are actually people who are into the I am a kat meww |
| 18:53.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:53.11 | `Zypher | don't belive em! |
| 18:53.12 | `Zypher | me* |
| 18:53.25 | Darktao | hehe |
| 18:53.28 | Cairenn | I believe you, just not into it myself :p |
| 18:53.35 | Darktao | I believe it |
| 18:53.36 | `Zypher | hokay |
| 18:53.48 | `Zypher | I was going to use my masterful google skills |
| 18:53.52 | `Zypher | but its ok |
| 18:54.50 | `Zypher | awwww poor spike |
| 19:00.06 | `Zypher | oh noes |
| 19:00.10 | `Zypher | Faye found Julia |
| 19:02.51 | Noctys | lua> main = {} main[1000] = true main [1001] = false print(#main) |
| 19:02.52 | lua_bot | Noctys: 0 |
| 19:03.10 | Noctys | lua> main = {} main[0] = true main [1] = false print(#main) |
| 19:03.11 | lua_bot | Noctys: 1 |
| 19:03.20 | Noctys | lua> main = {} main[1] = true main [2] = false print(#main) |
| 19:03.20 | lua_bot | Noctys: 2 |
| 19:03.32 | `Zypher | ->.<- |
| 19:03.33 | *** join/#waruidev sidereal (n=sidereal@66.237.5.217) |
| 19:04.44 | `Zypher | [->_<-] |
| 19:06.12 | `Zypher | :[ |
| 19:06.17 | Noctys | anyone know how to get the actual number of row so somehthing like: lua> main = {} main[1000] = true main [1001] = false print(#main) would return 2 |
| 19:06.39 | Noctys | actually print 2... but you know what I meant |
| 19:06.48 | `Zypher | -.- |
| 19:06.52 | `Zypher | no I don't know what you mean |
| 19:08.19 | Noctys | if You look at what I have above #var only returns the highest number without a break in the sequence -- I want to know how many rows (or entries) there are in a section of the table. |
| 19:08.43 | `Zypher | for k,v in pairs(main) do |
| 19:08.47 | `Zypher | print k |
| 19:08.48 | `Zypher | end |
| 19:09.23 | `Zypher | lua> main = {} main[1000] = true main[1001] = false for k,v in pairs(main) print(k) end |
| 19:09.23 | lua_bot | `Zypher: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'print' |
| 19:09.27 | Noctys | I don't what the current row/key -- I want the total number of keys |
| 19:09.30 | `Zypher | lua> main = {} main[1000] = true main[1001] = false for k,v in pairs(main) do print(k) end |
| 19:09.31 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 1000, 1001 |
| 19:09.54 | Noctys | and I don't want to run a loop every time I call it. |
| 19:10.07 | Noctys | in php/mysql it's just: mysql_num_rows |
| 19:10.14 | `Zypher | oh |
| 19:10.16 | `Zypher | ummm |
| 19:10.20 | Noctys | There should be something similar |
| 19:10.31 | Jenses | i think LogDisplaySetShowTimestamp might be broken... |
| 19:10.31 | `Zypher | there is |
| 19:10.34 | `Zypher | I forget what it is |
| 19:10.39 | `Zypher | table.getn |
| 19:10.40 | `Zypher | I think |
| 19:10.42 | Noctys | I just can't find it. I thought it was the #... but that works weird |
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| 19:11.10 | Noctys | lua> main = {} main[1000] = true main [1001] = false print(table.getn(main)) |
| 19:11.10 | lua_bot | Noctys: 0 |
| 19:11.19 | `Zypher | herrmmm |
| 19:11.24 | Noctys | valid command... but not it. |
| 19:11.51 | Noctys | Jenses, can't you turn on timestamps with the standard chat windows? |
| 19:12.13 | Jenses | i can, but thats not the point, i want it in an addon :P |
| 19:12.28 | Noctys | I know |
| 19:12.35 | Jenses | well, i cant turn on timestamps in the Chat / combat textlogs, if that was what you meant |
| 19:12.41 | Noctys | Have you looked at (if it's there) the lua for the chatwindows? |
| 19:12.44 | `Zypher | lua> main = { [1] = true, [2] = false } for i=1,#main do print(table.getn(main)) end |
| 19:12.44 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 2, 2 |
| 19:12.48 | `Zypher | hrmm |
| 19:13.15 | Noctys | need to do it with numbers not 1 & 2... Or else it may get wrong results |
| 19:13.22 | Noctys | or not the results I want. |
| 19:13.46 | `Zypher | lua> main = { [1000] = true, [1001] = false } for i=1,#main do print(table.getn(main)) end |
| 19:13.46 | lua_bot | `Zypher: No output |
| 19:13.49 | `Zypher | lame |
| 19:14.14 | `Zypher | lua> main = { [1000] = true, [1001] = false } print(table.getn(main)) |
| 19:14.15 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 0 |
| 19:15.29 | `Zypher | lua> print(table.getn{1001,1002,1003}) |
| 19:15.30 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 3 |
| 19:15.35 | `Zypher | wtf |
| 19:16.43 | `Zypher | -.- I fail at luaing |
| 19:17.26 | Noctys | lua> main = {} main[1000] = true main [1001] = false print(table.maxn(main)) |
| 19:17.26 | lua_bot | Noctys: 1001 |
| 19:17.31 | Noctys | sweet! |
| 19:17.42 | Noctys | you got me in the right place with getn() |
| 19:17.49 | Noctys | Gave me something to use in my google search |
| 19:18.15 | `Zypher | Noctys: well you're welcome |
| 19:18.51 | `Zypher | nooo |
| 19:18.57 | `Zypher | Julia got shot :( |
| 19:19.08 | `Zypher | oh |
| 19:19.14 | `Zypher | Daegalus: http://luagl.wikidot.com/ |
| 19:19.17 | Noctys | huh? |
| 19:19.58 | Jenses | HAH |
| 19:20.20 | `Zypher | Jenses: o_O |
| 19:20.23 | Jenses | LogDisplaySetShowTimestamp("EA_ChatTab1TextLog", true) |
| 19:20.38 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:20.39 | `Zypher | k |
| 19:20.52 | Daegalus | Bbs |
| 19:21.54 | `Zypher | Bbs? |
| 19:22.37 | `Zypher | [11:22][`Zypher(+ei)][4:freenode/#waruidev(+Jnt)][Act: 1,5,6,8,9] |
| 19:22.40 | Noctys | Bbs as in like the old school internet BBS? |
| 19:24.44 | `Zypher | :3 meeeew |
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| 19:27.02 | `Zypher | -.0 |
| 19:27.23 | `Zypher | Spike is going to kill Viscious |
| 19:28.47 | Noctys | lua> main = {} print(table.maxn(main)) |
| 19:28.47 | lua_bot | Noctys: 0 |
| 19:30.44 | Noctys | could the author of EA_Chatwindow please add some error checking. Your errors are filling up my debug window!!! |
| 19:31.47 | `Zypher | spike my boy! |
| 19:32.39 | `Zypher | Noctys: also, impossible |
| 19:32.47 | `Zypher | for that would require mythic to suck less |
| 19:33.13 | Noctys | I can still ask. |
| 19:33.21 | `Zypher | asking is not allowed |
| 19:34.07 | Noctys | If I thought they wouldn't change anything and make it useless I would think about doing a total UI rewrite and get rid of it all. They are easy fixed. Just a lot of lazy coding. |
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| 19:36.54 | Jenses | my EA_Chatwindow does nothing :< |
| 19:42.28 | Felyza | Noctys, I only get a few errors from the chat window complaining that the log isn't the right name. If you're getting more than that, may want to do a full file check. |
| 19:43.09 | Noctys | It's only that one (most of the time) -- It just happens a lot. |
| 19:43.34 | Felyza | Um, 2 lines after either game load or reload interface |
| 19:43.48 | Felyza | Only time you shoul see them, again, if its more, do a full file check |
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| 19:44.14 | Felyza | If you're complaining about 2 errors at game load or reloadui, then I don't think its that bad. ;) |
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| 19:44.40 | Repo | 10pingit: 03disturbedHR * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): PingIt: now it's possible to set modifier key |
| 19:44.41 | Repo | (CTRL, ALT or SHIFT). |
| 19:45.34 | Noctys | I usually get them in bursts of 4. On load, after changing zones/scenarios & after roloads. It more of a general complaint against all the EA_ erros. |
| 19:48.15 | Felyza | 0101000001100101011011100100100101110011 0101000001100101011011100100100101110011 0101000001100101011011100100100101110011 |
| 19:48.29 | Repo | 10pingit: 03disturbedHR 040.1.4 * r11 : Tagging as 0.1.4 |
| 19:48.49 | Jenses | penis self |
| 19:48.51 | Jenses | :( |
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| 19:49.38 | Felyza | Peter (to Lois): That's because Christians don't believe in gravity. |
| 19:50.00 | Felyza | Peter: Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand. |
| 19:51.11 | Felyza | 01100001011011100111010001101001011001000110100101110011011001010111001101110100 |
| 19:51.11 | Felyza | 01100001011000100110110001101001011100110110100001101101011001010110111001110100 |
| 19:51.11 | Felyza | 0110000101110010011010010110000101101110011010010111001101101101 |
| 19:51.19 | Felyza | whops, didn't mean to scroll that |
| 19:52.22 | Sqlogo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.57 | Jenses | clean unit frames? |
| 19:54.14 | Sqlogo | Well I'm trying to take a slice of a texture but for some reason it doesn't seem to want to give me access to the texture even though I access it in the same way as the EA UI does |
| 19:55.20 | Felyza | Sqlogo, are you atetmpting to make a custom texture/dds file? |
| 19:55.25 | Sqlogo | nah |
| 19:55.32 | Sqlogo | it's one of EA's |
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| 19:55.53 | Sqlogo | I just can't get the stupid thing to actually show up in the dynamic image |
| 19:56.04 | Sqlogo | and it doesn't like any of the slice names I give it even though they're valid =/ |
| 19:56.09 | Felyza | You can't use any part of <asset> tags, so just reference whatever image name they are using |
| 19:56.25 | Felyza | What are you trying to pull from? |
| 19:56.32 | Sqlogo | Well doing <DynamicImage texture="..." is valid isn't it? |
| 19:56.36 | Sqlogo | map_markers01 |
| 19:57.06 | Felyza | reason i ask is i was able to pull fine from things |
| 19:57.24 | Felyza | loading game now, going to see if i can help |
| 19:57.26 | Sqlogo | Yeah I've seen other mods do it with other textures |
| 19:57.35 | Sqlogo | but I just can't seem to get it to let me work with map_markers01 |
| 19:58.10 | Daegalus | Maybe its restricted somehow? |
| 19:58.53 | Felyza | is there any particular piece you're looking for in that file by chance? |
| 19:58.53 | Sqlogo | Maybe but it seems like a silly thing to restrict =/ |
| 19:59.43 | `Zypher | 0_o |
| 19:59.50 | Daegalus | Way to go Felyza, you messed up my screen with your binary lines :P |
| 20:00.02 | Sqlogo | Uh several, really any slice would do but in particular I'm looking for FlagOrder, FlagNeutral, and FlagDestruction |
| 20:00.29 | Felyza | sec, lemme get in game, stupid loading screen |
| 20:01.30 | `Zypher | -D-A-N-C-E- |
| 20:01.31 | Daegalus | Apparently this irc program tries to wrap the binary, fails, and messes up all text on my screen :P |
| 20:02.47 | `Zypher | I need to do something |
| 20:02.49 | Daegalus | Mmmm philosophy class |
| 20:02.52 | `Zypher | someone make me do something |
| 20:03.03 | Daegalus | Morality fun |
| 20:03.14 | `Zypher | Nihilism > all |
| 20:03.16 | chrixian | you should be able to use map_markers01 as a texture with no problem |
| 20:03.19 | `Zypher | you should know that Daegalus |
| 20:03.37 | Daegalus | Lol, i prefer Fromm and Marx |
| 20:03.48 | `Zypher | Daegalus: sigh |
| 20:03.59 | Sqlogo | yeah I'd think so too chri but I can't seem to get it to work |
| 20:04.13 | `Zypher | Daegalus: you will learn |
| 20:04.17 | `Zypher | Nihilism > all |
| 20:04.33 | Daegalus | Sqlogo: find an addon that uses the same pieces and do the same? |
| 20:04.39 | chrixian | you're using a dynamicimage? and using texture="map_markers01" slice="..." ?? |
| 20:04.42 | Felyza | Sqlogo, I got it first try |
| 20:04.43 | Sqlogo | yeah |
| 20:04.54 | Daegalus | Nihilism is Nitzsche right? |
| 20:05.07 | Sqlogo | and I know it's a valid slice name. I'm getting the slice name right from the Asset definition of the file |
| 20:05.18 | Felyza | Sqlogo, I was able to get it to appear immediately |
| 20:05.35 | Sqlogo | hmm |
| 20:06.15 | chrixian | nietzsche is existentialism |
| 20:06.18 | Daegalus | Are you sure your layering is fine? |
| 20:06.22 | Felyza | interface\default\ea_objectivetrackers\source\scenariotrackerwindow.xml line 83 gives you a dynamic image with the texture, i copy and pasted it to my sandbox addon, changed layer to popup, and it appeared firs try |
| 20:07.03 | Daegalus | Ah right, existentialism, i forget what nihilism is |
| 20:07.11 | Sqlogo | ya that's pretty much what I did Felyza |
| 20:07.17 | Felyza | <DynamicImage name="$parentOrderIcon" texture="map_markers01" slice="FlagOrder"><Size><AbsPoint x="28" y="33"/></Size><Anchors><Anchor point="topleft" relativePoint="topleft" relativeTo="$parent" ><AbsPoint x="0" y="0"/></Anchor></Anchors></DynamicImage> |
| 20:07.22 | chrixian | ya i can second what felyza is saying, i am able to use a texture from map_markers01 with no problem |
| 20:07.43 | Jenses | do a full file check, it might be corrupted |
| 20:07.56 | Felyza | only change I made was adding layer="popup" to the <dynamicimage > |
| 20:08.25 | Daegalus | Like i said, check your layering |
| 20:09.22 | Sqlogo | ya that's what I'm doing now |
| 20:09.30 | Felyza | using that dynamicimage as a template, you can can change the size and slice to match anything defined in interface\interfacecore\maps\mapicons.xml |
| 20:11.17 | Felyza | to save time and effort, FlagDestruction, FlagOrder, FlagNeutral and all use 28 wide by 33 tall |
| 20:12.16 | Sqlogo | Hmm |
| 20:12.38 | Sqlogo | Yeah I got it working correctly with the popup so it should be another location |
| 20:12.42 | Sqlogo | eranother issue |
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| 20:13.28 | `Zypher_ | wierd |
| 20:13.42 | Sqlogo | ahh there we go |
| 20:13.43 | Sqlogo | stupid thing |
| 20:13.55 | Felyza | you probably have your background without layer=backgorund, so its defaulting to secondary or something |
| 20:14.21 | Sqlogo | nah it was more straightforward than that |
| 20:14.38 | Sqlogo | I was inheriting a wrong window type, it was something that I thought I had changed but I hadn't |
| 20:15.33 | Felyza | =) |
| 20:15.54 | `Zypher | so who is interested in playing TCoS |
| 20:15.56 | `Zypher | ? |
| 20:16.06 | Daegalus | I should make a tetris addon |
| 20:16.28 | Sqlogo | Hehe |
| 20:16.34 | Sqlogo | Like the bejeweled one for Wow? |
| 20:17.00 | Daegalus | Ya but tetris. Cant go wrong with tetris |
| 20:17.16 | Jenses | a game inside a game |
| 20:17.20 | Jenses | ironic :p |
| 20:17.36 | Sqlogo | Hey! That gem game from EQ got me through some tough times! |
| 20:18.28 | Daegalus | Though i need to learn how to write a tetris game |
| 20:19.03 | talvinen | don't know about the input handling |
| 20:19.10 | talvinen | otherwise, it should be no problem |
| 20:19.34 | Sqlogo | Just force the user to write a bunch of macros and bind them to keys :P |
| 20:19.53 | Daegalus | Ill add arrow |
| 20:19.54 | Daegalus | Arrows* |
| 20:20.01 | talvinen | clickertetris? |
| 20:20.39 | Daegalus | Well thats the quickest way i know |
| 20:21.55 | talvinen | I want a chess addon |
| 20:21.57 | talvinen | like in WoW |
| 20:24.23 | Sqlogo | Now if I can just figure out why all my text is an odd shade of blue.... |
| 20:26.08 | Felyza | Sqlogo, which label are you inheriting? ;) |
| 20:26.21 | Daegalus | I might be able to do chess with fake items |
| 20:26.23 | Sqlogo | It's not an xml thing... it's my newbishness to lua |
| 20:26.51 | Sqlogo | I'm passing an array of {255, 255, 255} to a function that sets the label text/color and for some reason it was going to a blue |
| 20:27.12 | Felyza | label color = blue is xml unless you're using labelsetfontcolor |
| 20:27.50 | Aiiane | sqlogo: if you're using LabelSetTextColor, it doesn't take an array. it takes 3 numbers. |
| 20:28.00 | Sqlogo | I know I was passing an array to a function |
| 20:28.03 | Sqlogo | then splitting it out |
| 20:28.15 | Aiiane | pastey your code |
| 20:28.32 | Sqlogo | LabelSetTextColor(label, color[0], color[1], color[2]) |
| 20:28.42 | Sqlogo | It's not even a big deal I only use white text anyways |
| 20:28.47 | Daegalus | Class bbl |
| 20:28.49 | Sqlogo | so I can just go back to hardcoding it there |
| 20:30.27 | Sqlogo | ohh |
| 20:30.28 | Sqlogo | duh |
| 20:30.30 | `Zypher | Aiiane: party party! |
| 20:30.38 | Sqlogo | Stupid lua and their 1 index |
| 20:30.53 | Sqlogo | Don't they know computers are supposed to start indexing at 0 :P |
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| 20:33.03 | PenguinOfDoom | lua has some rather arbitrary design decisions |
| 20:33.09 | Sqlogo | ya |
| 20:33.12 | PenguinOfDoom | (arbitrary and *wrong*) |
| 20:33.41 | Sqlogo | I can't say it's my favorite language by any stretch |
| 20:33.44 | Sqlogo | but it's not that bad either |
| 20:36.10 | talvinen | Noctys? |
| 20:39.05 | Aiiane | "wrong", PenguinOfDoom? |
| 20:41.47 | Noctys | Talvinen: yes? |
| 20:41.48 | PenguinOfDoom | Aiiane: Indexing from 1 and the inequality operator come to mind |
| 20:42.04 | Aiiane | there's nothing wrong about indexing from one |
| 20:42.26 | Sqlogo | It's annoying though :P |
| 20:42.39 | Aiiane | not really. you're just not used to it |
| 20:42.42 | NigelTufnel | annoying != wrong |
| 20:42.50 | Sqlogo | Though it tends to make more sense for a higher level language |
| 20:43.03 | Sqlogo | *I* never said it was wrong |
| 20:43.06 | NigelTufnel | haha ya |
| 20:43.18 | PenguinOfDoom | What possible reason can there be to index from 1? |
| 20:43.32 | Aiiane | because most humans do? |
| 20:43.40 | Sqlogo | Saves you the trouble of doing - 1 a lot |
| 20:43.46 | Aiiane | when you start counting objects, do you start at 0? |
| 20:43.47 | Sqlogo | especially from human input |
| 20:43.56 | talvinen | Noctys: How's LTI 2.0 going? |
| 20:44.00 | NigelTufnel | I actually have kinda started counting at 0 >_< |
| 20:44.10 | PenguinOfDoom | lua is a computer language. It's for talking to computers |
| 20:44.18 | Noctys | Working on it right now. |
| 20:44.26 | PenguinOfDoom | It just so happens that the vast majority of computer languages count from 0 |
| 20:44.29 | Noctys | Hardest part is setting up the new keys. |
| 20:44.44 | Sqlogo | It makes sense for anything not dealing with humans to count from zero |
| 20:44.52 | Sqlogo | LTI? |
| 20:45.16 | Aiiane | (12:45:20) Sqlogo: It makes sense for anything not dealing with humans to count from zero |
| 20:45.17 | Aiiane | not really |
| 20:45.23 | Aiiane | that's a completely arbitrary choice |
| 20:45.35 | Noctys | Can't set them by name... And somewhere in the process I lost color by career name. Would have been easier if I had done everything with wides at the start |
| 20:45.43 | Noctys | Talvinen^^^ |
| 20:45.56 | Noctys | Sqlogo: LTI == LibTargetInfo |
| 20:46.04 | NigelTufnel | Why would LTI have anything about colors in it? |
| 20:46.42 | Noctys | Color of Career & Color of Career Type, trying to set a standard |
| 20:46.43 | Lefi | anyone know if table.remove can remove a string key? |
| 20:46.57 | Aiiane | table.remove only removes numerical keys |
| 20:47.08 | Aiiane | if you want to get rid of something with a string key, just set the value of that key to nil |
| 20:47.27 | NigelTufnel | ah I guess, feel that should be up to the addon moreso, seems a bit heavy for a lib to use, but I guess that makes sense too |
| 20:47.43 | talvinen | I'd like to include career Icons and optional color Friendly HP Bar by career |
| 20:48.17 | NigelTufnel | Icons I would give you, as they are actually universal, where as colors are more by preference |
| 20:48.36 | Noctys | 2.0 will hopefully let the addon-makers include a file to let the users change the colors. Then if they change the colors in one, it will update all of them. |
| 20:48.38 | Lefi | then it will still show up in pairs |
| 20:48.52 | PenguinOfDoom | Aiiane: Speaking of wrong, no array bounds checking :P |
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| 20:49.02 | talvinen | There should be a standard colorization per Career. I like to support that :) |
| 20:49.50 | Aiiane | PenguinOfDoom: that's because Lua doesn't have *arrays* |
| 20:49.54 | NigelTufnel | I guess, ya |
| 20:49.55 | Aiiane | it has tables, which are different |
| 20:50.13 | Sqlogo | Aiine... it's not arbitrary it has to do with how computers are designed and built and it all comes down to space really (which is less of an issue now but 'it's too late') |
| 20:50.30 | Aiiane | Sqlogo: no, it's arbitrary when you're talking about a high-level language |
| 20:50.41 | Sqlogo | Yeah |
| 20:50.49 | Aiiane | if we were working in assembly, or even C possibly, then I might grant you the point |
| 20:50.55 | Aiiane | but for a scripting language, it's 100% arbitrary |
| 20:50.56 | Sqlogo | But going against convention is never an arbitrary choice |
| 20:50.59 | PenguinOfDoom | Aiiane: If it walks like an array, talks like an array, and tries to bite you in the ass like a C array, it's an array |
| 20:51.07 | Aiiane | PenguinOfDoom: arrays can't have string keys |
| 20:51.11 | Aiiane | so bugger off |
| 20:51.15 | Repo | 10multiauction: 03Odlaw * r17 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:51.15 | Repo | MultiAuction: Created a scrolling listbox window, and increased the number of auctions to 60. |
| 20:51.16 | Sqlogo | It's not like Lua and C came out at the same time |
| 20:51.44 | Aiiane | Sqlogo: restricting yourself to convention simply because lower level languages came first isn't very useful |
| 20:51.56 | Aiiane | Lua was designed to be easy to /learn/ as well as easy to use |
| 20:52.11 | Aiiane | and people who haven't programmed before often have a very difficult time wrapping their head around counting from 0 |
| 20:52.12 | Sqlogo | I know, and I really don't have a problem with them choosing to index from 1 |
| 20:52.16 | Sqlogo | it's just slightly annoying |
| 20:52.36 | Felyza | PenguinOfDoom, can you call a function that is part of an array element in c? I don't know how, but that's lua tables. |
| 20:53.12 | PenguinOfDoom | Felyza: With a little bit of spit, twigs and preprocessor macros? Sure! |
| 20:53.20 | Noctys | telvinen: Was there a reason you were asking? Version 1.5 will hopefully be out later today or tomorrow (released as an Beta) and it will have more of the functionality you want in it. |
| 20:53.23 | PenguinOfDoom | what's a "function that is part of an array element"? |
| 20:53.39 | Aiiane | function pointer stored in an array. |
| 20:53.53 | Felyza | PenguinOfDoom, do you do SomeAddon = {} and then SomeAddon.SomeFunction() ? |
| 20:54.10 | Lefi | i take it back, nil-ing the value will remove from pairs results |
| 20:54.25 | talvinen | Noctys: I'm wondering what to do next with xHUD. Career Icons is something I want quite badly |
| 20:54.35 | PenguinOfDoom | Felyza: I'm not sure what that example is supposed to demonstrate |
| 20:55.06 | Felyza | The function is just another element in the table SomeAddon |
| 20:55.16 | PenguinOfDoom | Well, yes, C has first-class functions |
| 20:56.21 | NigelTufnel | talvinen: One thing I would say about xhud, besides that is looking pretty tight is that I prefer hud bars like that to have this structure (or the option of it) |
| 20:56.21 | NigelTufnel | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.40 | NigelTufnel | I like to have it so if you have no targets etc, its not offcenter but one thing is always on both sides of your character |
| 20:56.55 | Noctys | Talvinen: You can get them real easy with LIT. The functionality wont change at all from the current version. The only thing that will really change is that in 1.5 on up it will work on non-us servers. |
| 20:57.14 | Noctys | You could even make LTI optional and just display the target icon if they have it installed |
| 20:58.48 | talvinen | NigelTufnel: Perfectly possible with xHUD. Just rearrange the bars in the LayoutEditor |
| 20:59.17 | Noctys | Falyza: As far as I know c & c++ doesn't do anything like that. c++ uses objects which are similar. C# also uses namespaces (almost the same thing) |
| 20:59.17 | NigelTufnel | ah ok, didnt even really look into that, been too busy coding and not playing so I havent been using any huds lol |
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| 23:33.30 | Daegalus | C++ vs Java for Game Dev, GO! (given: OpenGL & OpenAL) |
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| 23:35.19 | `Zypher | :3 mewwww |
| 23:36.19 | `Zypher | Daegalus: dance dance? |
| 23:36.23 | Daegalus | ? |
| 23:37.18 | Daegalus | pretty much for me the only battle between the 2 is Ease of Cross-Platform, and ease of use on the grand scheme |
| 23:37.42 | `Zypher | C++ |
| 23:37.53 | `Zypher | im biased |
| 23:40.18 | NigelTufnel | same |
| 23:40.29 | Daegalus | but making it cross-platform requries you to compile seperate clients for each OS, and change code to make it work on each system. |
| 23:40.38 | NigelTufnel | I dont really like java as a language to use, I feel its better for teaching than actual use |
| 23:41.07 | `Zypher | Daegalus: it just *feels* better |
| 23:41.08 | `Zypher | lol |
| 23:41.18 | Daegalus | thats subjective |
| 23:43.02 | Noctys | Putting last request out there again. Need some help with my code not working right. After reloading the game it recreates all the saved player data again instead of just reusing what is already there. I have been trying to get this to work for 3 days now. If someone could put a fresh pair of eyes on it I would really appriciate it. http://waruidev.pastey.net/101578 |
| 23:44.22 | Daegalus | looking now noctys |
| 23:44.28 | Aiiane | when is int() called |
| 23:44.43 | Noctys | from the .mod file |
| 23:45.08 | Aiiane | probably your issue then, im not even sure savedvariables are guaranteed to be loaded by that point |
| 23:45.28 | `Zypher | yar |
| 23:45.34 | `Zypher | call it later |
| 23:45.35 | `Zypher | ;) |
| 23:45.50 | Daegalus | call it in your Init function |
| 23:45.56 | Aiiane | ...no, Daegalus |
| 23:46.24 | Daegalus | all my saved variable processing is in my init function |
| 23:46.25 | Daegalus | works fine |
| 23:46.34 | Noctys | They are loaded. |
| 23:46.54 | Noctys | The saved varialbe. on reload that line: EA_ChatWindow.Print(L"You have "..towstring(#LibTargetInfo.storedTargetData[LibTargetInfo.realmName])..L" entries in libTargetInfo database") |
| 23:47.11 | Noctys | print out how many there is, and that part works |
| 23:47.36 | Noctys | Just adds 24 every time I reload and retarget once in a scenario. |
| 23:49.52 | Aiiane | well, /what/ 24 is it adding |
| 23:50.27 | Noctys | 24 new players, the same ones that are aleady in there, just under new keys |
| 23:50.52 | Aiiane | so what does your tempTargetData array look like |
| 23:54.18 | Noctys | I just reset it... So I can't cut & Paste. It looks correct though. Is there something specific you are looking for? |
| 23:57.01 | Noctys | Entering now.. .one second |
| 23:57.51 | Noctys | http://waruidev.pastey.net/101607 |
| 23:58.02 | Noctys | Aii: Saved Var copy above |
| 23:58.16 | Aiiane | that wasn't what I asked |
| 23:58.21 | Aiiane | I asked about tempTargetData |
| 23:59.48 | Noctys | Oh... Duh... |
| 23:59.55 | Noctys | Reading what I want to see. Sorry |
