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| 00:02.28 | talvinen | Aiiane: can't you use Resize() on Comboboxes? |
| 00:03.06 | Noctys` | Felyza --- Update on mouse down... Use on mouse up??? |
| 00:03.48 | Aiiane | talvinen: resizing them doesn't work well if it's not done in the base xml template, unfortunately |
| 00:03.57 | Aiiane | because they generate a bunch of sub windows |
| 00:04.41 | Aiiane | that don't seem to be anchored |
| 00:04.50 | Aiiane | or not anchored in a way friendly to dynamic resizing |
| 00:05.03 | talvinen | Hmm.. than I have to change the layout. okay. |
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| 00:05.42 | talvinen | Anyway, 1 o'clock, bedtime. |
| 00:05.44 | talvinen | Good Night |
| 00:07.53 | Aiiane | class, back in a bit |
| 00:23.35 | Repo | 10autobar: 03Felyza 04V2.0-Beta * r7 : |
| 00:23.36 | Repo | Switching bars from forced to using templated action bars. Lots of code changes with display of the bar. Uses an empty radio button as activator. Lockable, via new options window on right click activator. Issues exist with stack and timer display. |
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| 00:24.14 | Felyza | Daegalus, friend, pal... |
| 00:24.35 | Daegalus | yes felyza? |
| 00:24.38 | Felyza | you able to get in game by chance? |
| 00:24.53 | Daegalus | yup. just got home, just give me a minute |
| 00:25.46 | Felyza | Daegalus, if you could grab the beta edition autobar before you log in... just want to know if timers and stack counts come up right for someone else. |
| 00:26.24 | Daegalus | ok, will do |
| 00:26.51 | Felyza | I have funky issues with them anyway in the backpack... when I reloadui, I can't see stack counts until I move things |
| 00:27.16 | Daegalus | hmm ok, let me update and launch war |
| 00:27.25 | `Zypher | ~dance |
| 00:27.26 | purl | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 00:27.38 | Felyza | Its beta, so will probably require grabbing from curseforge |
| 00:27.39 | Aii | http://vnboards.ign.com/warhammer_online_age_of_reckoning_general_board/b22997/109321363/p1/?5 |
| 00:27.44 | Aii | ^1.05 patch info, btw |
| 00:28.22 | Felyza | omg, wow... Players should be able to use the morale button abilities more effectively now. In other words, the darn thing should work every time. |
| 00:30.00 | Aii | at least they're throwing 1.05 on a test server this time |
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| 00:33.10 | `Zypher | Aii: this is good news |
| 00:35.00 | `Zypher | the one patch not I want is |
| 00:35.07 | `Zypher | note* |
| 00:35.22 | `Zypher | we spent a shit ton of time on client optimization |
| 00:35.25 | `Zypher | cuz we fail |
| 00:35.33 | `Zypher | and now you shouldn't crash |
| 00:36.51 | Daegalus | I look forward to reading all 17 pages of those patch notes |
| 00:36.58 | Daegalus | sounds like an epic patch of epicness |
| 00:38.35 | Daegalus | so Felyza, which version did you want me to test? 1.1 or something thats in the repository? |
| 00:39.04 | Felyza | 2.0beta |
| 00:39.50 | Felyza | need me to make it publish beta, or do you have svn? |
| 00:40.09 | Daegalus | i have svn, just need to create a folder for it |
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| 00:45.27 | Daegalus | Fixed a memory leak in the gameâs shader caching system. <--- i new there was a memory leak |
| 00:46.48 | Aii | there are memory leaks in almost every program; it's a question of how greivous they are |
| 00:46.56 | Aii | *almost every large program |
| 00:49.31 | WikkiFizzle | When I started working at my current company, our enterprise software would crash/require reboot every 8 hours due to mem leaks |
| 00:49.34 | Daegalus | well ya, but for me, i always suffered a lot from it, and would CTD 95% of the time from it |
| 00:49.55 | WikkiFizzle | And the software was working in real time with high speed trains :/ |
| 00:51.16 | PenguinOfDoom | WikkiFizzle: What an endless fount of tasteless train crash jokes! |
| 00:51.29 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 00:51.50 | WikkiFizzle | Some how our corporate lawyers found out, they had a field day |
| 00:52.48 | WikkiFizzle | In the last 5 years its been cleaned up, our typical uptime is about 200 days, normally not much higher due to software updates and such |
| 00:52.59 | art3mis | a train leaves boston at 4:25pm at a speed of 175mph, at the same time a train leaves hartford heading north east at a speed of 225mph, at what point will a memleak crash noe of the trains? |
| 00:53.28 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 00:53.51 | art3mis | Felyza: autobar is working spiffy btw |
| 00:54.12 | WikkiFizzle | Sadly our software can calculate where they will meet, what sidings to put the lower priority in all based upon length, weight, weather, breaking, conductor experience, plus about another 400 variables |
| 00:54.18 | Felyza | art3mis, on the beta? |
| 00:54.29 | art3mis | havent logged in today but was last night |
| 00:54.47 | art3mis | only thing i keep forgetting is that its left click not right click ;) |
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| 00:54.50 | Felyza | i posted a beta today, been working on a rewrite of button display for the last 3 days |
| 00:54.58 | art3mis | madness! |
| 00:55.12 | Felyza | using 'undiscovered' functions is a PITA |
| 00:55.16 | art3mis | you should do up some extra bars of that nature |
| 00:55.28 | art3mis | once yer done with auto i mean |
| 00:55.48 | Felyza | i've switched to templates and all autogeneration using the actionbargroupset* commands |
| 00:55.51 | art3mis | i like shapeable moveable bars loads better than the limit ui setup ones |
| 00:56.10 | Felyza | art3mis, the new method supports shapable |
| 00:56.14 | art3mis | plus it leads to grouping action/spell types ;) |
| 00:56.16 | art3mis | ooooooooo |
| 00:56.20 | Felyza | however |
| 00:56.31 | Felyza | i'm not adding shaping until i can get them to display right |
| 00:56.54 | Felyza | at least i will support rows and columns |
| 00:57.01 | Felyza | it will* |
| 00:57.14 | Aii | could have just implemented them yourself :P |
| 00:57.47 | Felyza | Aii, the way timers work, they require a LOT of code muscle and update stuff to work right, when the actionbargroupsettimer takes care of all that |
| 00:58.49 | Felyza | I'm following usage on implementation, however even the implementation is funky in my backpack, so I'm hoping to get a few people to test it, will release if its working right for others. |
| 01:03.00 | `Zypher | Aii: Atari sent me a cd key without asking me squat |
| 01:03.04 | `Zypher | >.< |
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| 01:05.06 | `Zypher | oh also |
| 01:05.13 | `Zypher | L4D demo tomarrow 2AM |
| 01:05.19 | `Zypher | wewt |
| 01:05.53 | shockbeta | Aii: Since no one has heard from hallas(shakakaw in a while what would be the best option for me to push out the waaaghbar versions I've been doing as a clone to curse? Waaaghbar hasn't been updated on curse for almost a month now. |
| 01:07.29 | `Zypher | shockbeta: did you email him |
| 01:07.30 | `Zypher | and ask? |
| 01:07.45 | shockbeta | No one has heard from him. People have been trying to contact him. |
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| 01:10.03 | shockbeta | I don't exactly want to take his project over, as it's his. And he may come back from wherever he is. Real life happens and I understand that. That was why I asked what would be the best option to push my clones to curse. Make a new project and give it a modified name, or something else? I already seen this one... I couldnt' really tell any difference in code : http://war.curse.com/downloads/war-addons/details/waaaghbar_lingy.aspx |
| 01:10.39 | art3mis | call it shockbar-beta ;) |
| 01:10.47 | shockbeta | lol |
| 01:11.04 | art3mis | reference the main stale project in to notes |
| 01:11.08 | art3mis | thats what i would do |
| 01:11.30 | art3mis | having the same name as a "fork" would just be silly and confusing |
| 01:11.37 | art3mis | OR |
| 01:11.42 | shockbeta | Spork!!!! |
| 01:11.45 | shockbeta | lol |
| 01:11.47 | art3mis | if you added stuff to it call it a plugin ;) |
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| 01:11.58 | art3mis | and no-one will be the wiser |
| 01:12.04 | shockbeta | lol |
| 01:12.09 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 01:13.32 | Felyza | shockbeta, if you intend to stick around and update it, and can do well with it, i'd second forking it, renaming it to shockbar or something (or Warbar, if you want it near the other in addon lists) and releasing with proper credits |
| 01:13.39 | Aii | so far, warboard and snt bars seem more promising |
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| 01:14.33 | shockbeta | warboard looked nice, sny bar looked alright as well. But what they're doing is nothing that waaaghbar can't with a little love. |
| 01:15.05 | Aii | the question is, is there anything waaaghbar can do that they can't? |
| 01:15.14 | Aii | and if not, is there a reason to not just contribute to one of them instead? |
| 01:15.30 | shockbeta | snt is nice because of the integrated panels you can make and use, but at the same time I don't like the look of it when it's all like that. I like the streamlined top line as waaghbar has. |
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| 01:15.58 | art3mis | its basically the difference of titan vs fubar |
| 01:16.02 | shockbeta | With that reasoning why are there so many "bar" addons shouldnt' they all have jus contributed to one? |
| 01:16.20 | art3mis | just make it a plugin to waaaaghbar |
| 01:16.34 | Aii | shockbeta: im not saying you can't, im just saying to consider |
| 01:16.34 | art3mis | it updates some feautres and adds things |
| 01:16.42 | Aii | the answer to your question being that they decided not to |
| 01:16.50 | Aii | which is fine; but at least think about it first ;) |
| 01:16.53 | shockbeta | Yeah but it's not. I added/changed a lot to the original waaaghbar itself. |
| 01:17.27 | art3mis | shockbeta: yes but this way you can "drop" the project without much problem should whats his name come back and work on it |
| 01:17.38 | Thrae | shockbeta: Well, for one, waaaaaghbar hasn't been updated in a while, and has some glitches of its own. I think when dealing with dependencies, a lot of people get into the "abandonment paranoia" that if the project is abandoned, they/others won't have enough know-how/effort/time to continue it. |
| 01:17.51 | shockbeta | I could change the naming convention it uses and just state that it's compatibale with waaaghbar plugins. |
| 01:18.03 | art3mis | hi thrae |
| 01:18.31 | shockbeta | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/waaaghbar/repositories/shockbetas-clone/files/ |
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| 01:18.57 | WikkiFizzle | poor repo |
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| 01:19.16 | art3mis | he's at least living up to his name |
| 01:19.27 | art3mis | he gowes out for a bit then gets taken back to be given out again |
| 01:19.54 | Aii | nah |
| 01:19.58 | Aii | ckk was fixing stuff |
| 01:20.05 | Aii | if you were in #curseforge you'd know why :P |
| 01:21.20 | ckknight | o noes |
| 01:21.22 | art3mis | aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeee |
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| 01:28.54 | `Zypher | ckknight: oh snap? |
| 01:28.58 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 01:29.04 | `Zypher | idk |
| 01:29.22 | `Zypher | what has you been up to? |
| 01:29.39 | ckknight | upgrading wowace/curseforge to a new codebase |
| 01:29.53 | `Zypher | i see |
| 01:30.06 | `Zypher | I was curious, aspx? |
| 01:32.15 | ckknight | no, no |
| 01:32.24 | ckknight | we moved away from Django to other Python systems |
| 01:32.30 | ckknight | Werkzeug, SQLAlchemy |
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| 01:35.54 | `Zypher | ic |
| 01:36.17 | PenguinOfDoom | web.py!!1 |
| 01:36.56 | `Zypher | ckknight: I was just reading this site |
| 01:37.05 | `Zypher | does curse use mod_offload by any chance? |
| 01:37.18 | ckknight | well, curse.com is ASP.NET |
| 01:37.23 | ckknight | curseforge is Python |
| 01:37.31 | ckknight | we don't use mod_offload, though |
| 01:37.31 | art3mis | asp? |
| 01:37.33 | art3mis | ewww |
| 01:37.38 | art3mis | i feel dirty |
| 01:37.40 | `Zypher | ckknight: considered it? |
| 01:37.42 | ckknight | you should |
| 01:37.47 | ckknight | `Zypher: never heard of it |
| 01:38.03 | `Zypher | http://icculus.org/mod_offload/ |
| 01:38.23 | ckknight | I think our setup is pretty solid |
| 01:38.59 | `Zypher | ;) |
| 01:39.06 | `Zypher | it just seems like all the sites slow down |
| 01:39.12 | `Zypher | when theres a large traffic hit |
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| 01:43.48 | art3mis | ya know i installed roundcube today |
| 01:43.54 | art3mis | and i must say it's perty |
| 01:44.18 | art3mis | just add in a calendar and the ability to sync with others in a group mode and it's perfect and not google ;) |
| 01:44.36 | art3mis | ajax email is neat |
| 01:44.51 | art3mis | has a proper preview pane, handles mebedded images and attachments right |
| 01:45.11 | art3mis | and yuo can drag resize the folder list/mail/reading pane |
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| 01:56.19 | Daegalus | todays patched fixed my stuff. 3 hours, not CTD or Slowdown. constant 1.2 gigs of ram use. go go memory leak fixes |
| 01:56.31 | NigelTufnel | o sick |
| 01:56.49 | NigelTufnel | I gotta check that out soon then |
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| 02:10.51 | PenguinOfDoom | evil twin problem? |
| 02:12.05 | thanners | apparently. |
| 02:12.07 | Aiiane | someone said evil twin, what do you need? |
| 02:12.26 | PenguinOfDoom | I thought you were the good twin |
| 02:12.33 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 02:12.46 | thanners | maybe they take turns. |
| 02:12.49 | thanners | mix things up a bit. |
| 02:12.56 | Aiiane | life gets boring otherwise |
| 02:13.29 | NigelTufnel | or its like one of those swaps, and you dont know which one to kill |
| 02:14.14 | NigelTufnel | man, I want a ssd so bad |
| 02:14.44 | PenguinOfDoom | why don't you travel to the future where SSDs are 1) cheap 2) not crap |
| 02:14.50 | NigelTufnel | =P |
| 02:15.18 | NigelTufnel | well they wont need to be cheap, cus I could just put my money in a savings account if I already have a time machine |
| 02:17.22 | Aiiane | btw Daegalus, you realize they disabled the patch that included that hotfix you mentioned? |
| 02:17.30 | Aiiane | Update 5:55PM EST 11/5/2008: This client update has been disabled due to players experiencing some unexpected graphic issues. We will update this when further information becomes available. |
| 02:18.09 | NigelTufnel | ouch |
| 02:18.10 | Daegalus | i havent updated to the remvoal of the patch yet |
| 02:18.27 | Daegalus | im still running with the patch |
| 02:18.32 | NigelTufnel | never ever stop playing now |
| 02:25.36 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: Im on linux atm and once I finish some work Im gonna try and get war running in wine, hopefuly it all goes to plan |
| 02:26.13 | Daegalus | ya |
| 02:26.16 | Daegalus | if you need anything |
| 02:26.18 | Daegalus | just msg me |
| 02:26.50 | NigelTufnel | definitally, I have gotten tf2 and shit working on wine before, I dont expect much difficulty |
| 02:27.03 | NigelTufnel | but I'l let ya know |
| 02:29.33 | Daegalus | well TF2 is officially support |
| 02:29.40 | Daegalus | WAR requires patching of the source code, etc. |
| 02:29.44 | NigelTufnel | right, well i did a long while back heh |
| 02:30.11 | NigelTufnel | but ya, I mean you gave me like all the info I really need, but I will send you a message if I get snagged |
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| 02:56.27 | thanners | my home internet connection has gone flakey. |
| 02:57.08 | thanners | randomly laggy, and now got a load of static on the phone line. |
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| 03:07.10 | `Zypher | I might be getting an alpha invite to Global Agenda /weeeeee |
| 03:09.13 | Noctys | My project (TargetInfoWindow) is not updating from CurseForge to Curse.com It been over 4 hours, it show 'norma'l on CF, but still showing the old version on the other side. Any ideas? |
| 03:09.58 | WikkiFizzle | You can pay ck a few $ to speed up the process! |
| 03:10.30 | Noctys | I don't think that is the issue... Isn't it all automatic once the file gets approved? |
| 03:10.45 | `Zypher | yes |
| 03:10.48 | `Zypher | sometimes however |
| 03:10.52 | `Zypher | it doesn't syndicate |
| 03:10.58 | `Zypher | and as he earlier pointed out |
| 03:11.02 | `Zypher | they have been doing work on curse |
| 03:11.36 | Noctys | I missed that part. I'll be patient. I know about flipping it to alpha and back to release to resyndicate, but I thought that was only for new projects. |
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| 03:19.06 | Felyza | Sigh, is repo not making release files? |
| 03:19.34 | Felyza | My project is set to syndicate beta or release, tag is 2.1-Beta, and its not making the file |
| 03:20.10 | `Zypher | ~fail Felyza |
| 03:20.10 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Felyza. I hate you because you fail. |
| 03:20.31 | Felyza | I really hope you can't breed. |
| 03:26.08 | Daegalus | Felyza: did you get my messages earlier? |
| 03:26.26 | Felyza | not till now |
| 03:26.45 | Felyza | hmm, its working fine for me, with only a few caveats with timer display |
| 03:27.27 | Felyza | loading game client now, just to make 100% sure i didn't change anything before uploading it |
| 03:31.27 | Felyza | Daegalus, it loads my potions right |
| 03:32.09 | Daegalus | well in 2.0beta i loaded, and it just stayed blank and no poitions were read form my bag |
| 03:32.32 | Felyza | I have a bunch of potions in the bank, and all are loading right |
| 03:32.48 | Felyza | just to make sure, I forced up a zip for the beta |
| 03:33.09 | Felyza | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autobar/files/3-v2-0-beta/ |
| 03:33.36 | `Zypher | Felyza: the only reason I said fail was due to what I had said two lines above you're statement |
| 03:34.01 | `Zypher | so perhaps we should let the literate breed and those who are unable to do as much diaf |
| 03:35.22 | Felyza | I was having issues with beta syndicating, not release, so the alpha to release wouldn't have worked (trust me, already tried) |
| 03:36.01 | Felyza | As per syndicating, I was referring to appearing in the file list in curseforge, and nothing at all to do with curse.com |
| 03:36.24 | Felyza | The file wasn't showing up even in curseforge |
| 03:36.34 | sysrage | awwww Aiiane i just crashed |
| 03:36.58 | `Zypher | Felyza: again to my point |
| 03:36.58 | sysrage | your fix definitely helps, but it's apparently not the only problem |
| 03:37.10 | `Zypher | we are both aware that they are doing work on curse |
| 03:37.14 | Felyza | Daegalus, feel free to try the zipped up beta, if you have issues, leave comments, I gotta go =( |
| 03:37.25 | `Zypher | curse includes all of it's branches aswell |
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| 03:42.24 | `Zypher | fucking Felyza got me all riled up |
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| 04:02.44 | Thunder_Child | ~calm `Zypher |
| 04:02.45 | purl | ACTION sooths `Zypher, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm `Zypher down. |
| 04:03.14 | Thunder_Child | also, stop fucking Felyza and you might feel better |
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| 04:06.31 | Aiiane | .... |
| 04:06.57 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane, see aboe |
| 04:07.00 | Thunder_Child | above* |
| 04:07.10 | Aiiane | I'm fully aware of where you got the comment from |
| 04:07.14 | Aiiane | that doesn't change my response |
| 04:07.39 | Thunder_Child | nor does it change mine |
| 04:10.18 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane, feel like translating "...."? |
| 04:10.52 | Aiiane | sure, the english version is "dot dot dot dot" |
| 04:11.21 | `Zypher | sigh |
| 04:11.23 | Thunder_Child | well that got a chuckle out of me |
| 04:11.32 | Thunder_Child | though it hardly answered the question |
| 04:11.50 | NigelTufnel | this is clearly going no where TC |
| 04:12.47 | `Zypher | anyone excited about the Left 4 Dead demo tonite? |
| 04:12.57 | Thunder_Child | i dunno NigelTufnel, it amuses me |
| 04:12.57 | NigelTufnel | o man thats tonight? |
| 04:13.00 | NigelTufnel | heh |
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| 04:18.11 | `Zypher | NigelTufnel: 2AM is what I hear |
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| 04:18.16 | `Zypher | 2AM pst |
| 04:19.04 | `Zypher | so I'm considering going to GDC next year |
| 04:19.16 | `Zypher | the student pass is only 75$ |
| 04:19.18 | Lefi | evening all |
| 04:20.27 | `Zypher | NigelTufnel: lame, I have to preorder to get it tonite |
| 04:20.32 | `Zypher | and its 7am pst for pc |
| 04:20.34 | `Zypher | >.< |
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| 04:21.11 | NigelTufnel | o ouch |
| 04:21.22 | `Zypher | the normal demo is on the 11th |
| 04:21.24 | `Zypher | >_< |
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| 04:48.47 | Repo | 10squared: 03Aiiane * r80 / (3 files in 2 directories): ADDED: Option to adjust icon alpha (transparency). |
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| 05:03.47 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: what is the 1 line patch for the model fix you were saying |
| 05:04.02 | NigelTufnel | in the instructions he just sais "Apply the model fix", not sure where it is really |
| 05:05.32 | Daegalus | sorry, its in the 14608 bug, post 30-37 |
| 05:05.45 | NigelTufnel | right, I just read my log chat with you earlier and was takin a peek there now |
| 05:05.59 | Daegalus | you should also apply the texture.c if you want a performance gain |
| 05:06.12 | NigelTufnel | does that sacrifice quality? |
| 05:06.14 | Daegalus | its commenting out 4 lines, bu tits optional |
| 05:06.19 | Daegalus | i think, not sure |
| 05:06.27 | Daegalus | read hte comments above mine |
| 05:06.35 | NigelTufnel | i mean, my comp pretty rock solid so I dont really worry about performance |
| 05:06.47 | NigelTufnel | but I dont quite see wha thte 1 line is.... |
| 05:07.40 | NigelTufnel | ah im seeing it now |
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| 05:26.36 | Repo | 10huduf: 03Metaphaze * r24 / (5 files in 1 directory): Couple Bug fixes and added a new DefaultLayout, |
| 05:26.37 | Repo | SimpleBars |
| 05:30.00 | Repo | 10squared: 03Aiiane * r83 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added tag 2.6.2 for changeset 357cd952a268 (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 05:30.01 | Repo | 2.6.2 release: |
| 05:30.02 | Daegalus | SNT Panel = WIN |
| 05:30.07 | Repo | ADDED: Icon alpha option. |
| 05:30.13 | Repo | ADDED: Group number text option. |
| 05:30.19 | Repo | FIXED: deplete-off should now work in groups. |
| 05:32.18 | Lefi | what are the +Repo messages from? |
| 05:33.17 | Aiiane | Repo is a bot that announces commits to CurseForge code repositories |
| 05:34.14 | Lefi | any file upload or just via svn? |
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| 05:39.50 | Aiiane | any repository (svn, git, or hg) |
| 05:39.57 | Aiiane | file uploads are not repositories |
| 05:40.01 | sysrage | maybe it was the shader thing herald is talkin about that made me crash tonight. didn't crash again after gettin that patch |
| 05:40.09 | Aiiane | repositories are SCM (source code management) |
| 05:40.10 | Lefi | gotchya, thanks |
| 05:40.32 | Lefi | i know =), i thought the file uploads went into the main trunk |
| 05:40.36 | Aiiane | nope |
| 05:40.51 | Aiiane | file uploads aren't put into SCM (and you can upload files w/o enabling any particular SCM option) |
| 05:40.52 | Lefi | i dont bother with curse's svn, i just use my local MS TEAM |
| 05:41.53 | Aiiane | Eh. I like Hg (though git works too) since it allows me to have both local version control on my system, and also remote version control |
| 05:42.03 | Lefi | Hey any of you competent c# / java / cpp people in the southern california area looking for a job by chance? |
| 05:42.21 | Aiiane | and having remote version control makes it easy for others to potentially contribute if I want to let them :) |
| 05:42.57 | Aiiane | I'm still going to school in SoCal :P |
| 05:43.04 | Lefi | bah =P |
| 05:43.31 | shockbeta | Have a question: If I create a window in xml, <window name="wahtever"> <windows> <dynamicimage name="$parentImage" > then inherit from that window <window name="custom" inherits="whatever"> What is the name of the dynamicimage? |
| 05:43.43 | shockbeta | minus typos of course:p |
| 05:43.54 | NigelTufnel | WhateverImage im p-sure |
| 05:43.55 | Lefi | customImage |
| 05:43.59 | Aiiane | customImage |
| 05:44.04 | NigelTufnel | k lol |
| 05:44.10 | Aiiane | $parent is based off the *actual* parent |
| 05:44.14 | Aiiane | not the template parent |
| 05:44.16 | shockbeta | hmmm... thats what I thought.. maybe I'm messing something else up... |
| 05:44.22 | NigelTufnel | o my b, i was looking at it backwards |
| 05:44.42 | Lefi | alright, well im out for the night ... miserable destruction t4 runs put me in a crap mood lol |
| 05:44.49 | Aiiane | bye Lefi :) |
| 05:45.02 | shockbeta | does it matter if I create extra things in the <windows> section? I think not, but just making sure... |
| 05:46.29 | Aiiane | shockbeta: make sure they all have $parent-based names |
| 05:47.27 | shockbeta | I did... DynamicImageSetTexture is complaining that the window doesnt' exist... |
| 05:50.59 | shockbeta | http://waruidev.pastey.net/100826 |
| 05:51.14 | shockbeta | see anything weird in there that would break it? |
| 05:52.08 | shockbeta | error in debug window is: Window ShockBar_XpRpIcon does not exist |
| 05:53.01 | WikkiFizzle | If I recall correctly the windows in the base class get removed if the derived class has a windows definition |
| 05:53.10 | WikkiFizzle | But its been a while since Ive done UI stuff |
| 05:53.37 | shockbeta | bah.. That's not much of an inheritance.... |
| 05:53.40 | shockbeta | lol |
| 06:00.26 | Daegalus | whats the best way to save window positioning for ModSettings.xml |
| 06:01.03 | Daegalus | if i remember right, reloadui doesnt save window positioning |
| 06:02.09 | NigelTufnel | I would always crash and lose any session changes to my layout |
| 06:02.18 | NigelTufnel | I would logout+in, as reloadui doesnt save it, ya |
| 06:03.59 | shockbeta | Wikki: I removed the extra definitions in the inherited window... it's all being found now.. seems you recalled correctly... that's kinda lame.... |
| 06:05.26 | shockbeta | Anyone know how to create a window template, then override it in another class to add new windows items to it? |
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| 06:10.33 | Aiiane | create a wrapper window that has as one of its windows the one you want to inherit, and then other windows as well? |
| 06:10.54 | Aiiane | i.e. |
| 06:10.59 | Aiiane | <window name="wrapper"> |
| 06:11.00 | Aiiane | <windows> |
| 06:11.15 | Aiiane | <window name="inherited" inherits="whatever"> |
| 06:11.22 | Aiiane | <window name="extra"> |
| 06:11.24 | Aiiane | </windows> |
| 06:11.25 | Aiiane | etc |
| 06:12.03 | shockbeta | k thanks. I'll try that out |
| 06:14.46 | Aiiane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs |
| 06:15.35 | WikkiFizzle | Hm..I just generated a savedvariables file 50k lines long :/ |
| 06:15.57 | shockbeta | One more: Is there a way to change the name of a window you declared in xml? |
| 06:16.04 | shockbeta | at runtime* |
| 06:16.32 | `Zypher | doubt it |
| 06:16.49 | `Zypher | you could create the window with CreateWindowFromTemplate |
| 06:16.54 | `Zypher | then name each one differently |
| 06:17.50 | shockbeta | I would have to make a function for each window declaraion? or could I pass a name then : that... like CreateThisFromTemplate(name) name:createFromTemplate() |
| 06:17.51 | WikkiFizzle | Aii you need to name your next addon PowerThirst regardless of what it does :P |
| 06:18.25 | Aiiane | shockbeta: createwindowfromtemplate takes 3 arguments |
| 06:18.34 | Aiiane | resultname, templatename, parent |
| 06:18.56 | Aiiane | and creates a window named resultname based on the template named templatename, and sets the parent of resultname to parent |
| 06:19.18 | shockbeta | ohh createwindowfromtemplate... not createfromtemplate:p |
| 06:20.41 | Daegalus | all i can say is my UI currently rocks hardcore :D |
| 06:21.46 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: im gettin there, finally got around to actually compiling wine |
| 06:21.52 | NigelTufnel | now im just doing the winetricks |
| 06:22.00 | Daegalus | hehe |
| 06:22.16 | Daegalus | wine compile takes a while though |
| 06:22.23 | Repo | 10multiauction_auctionstats: 03Odlaw * r4 Core.lua: |
| 06:22.24 | Repo | MultiAuction_AuctionStats: Added warning messages when no data from AuctionStats is found for an item. |
| 06:22.49 | NigelTufnel | ya, and the 1st time I forgot a ; in the line that we add to the device.c >_< |
| 06:22.57 | NigelTufnel | so I had to recompile |
| 06:23.00 | Daegalus | for me though, most compiles seem too short, after doing an LFS, you will never see any compile as long. Damn base chain of tools took 2 days to compile |
| 06:23.13 | NigelTufnel | haha, on my old laptop did gentoo |
| 06:23.17 | NigelTufnel | I compiled for 4 days |
| 06:23.26 | NigelTufnel | to get to the stage of firefox on that piece |
| 06:23.39 | Daegalus | well compiling a program on the linux system and compiling a entirely new linux system are 2 different things :P |
| 06:23.46 | NigelTufnel | haha ya, true |
| 06:23.55 | Daegalus | what i was doing that took me 2 days, might of taken a week on your old laptop |
| 06:24.08 | NigelTufnel | haha ya probably |
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| 06:24.24 | Daegalus | i should do another LFS |
| 06:24.27 | Daegalus | just for shits and giggles |
| 06:24.50 | NigelTufnel | ya, I dont got that time anymore though =P |
| 06:25.20 | Daegalus | it was fun recompiling the same thing 3 times to make the new systems base so its independent of hte host system |
| 06:26.58 | NigelTufnel | k, so winetricks is running, getting there |
| 06:31.34 | Daegalus | freaking A, i hate how the chatwindows dont save their position properly |
| 06:31.56 | NigelTufnel | ya. do you only get that when you logout+in |
| 06:32.01 | NigelTufnel | I never get it on the 1st login |
| 06:32.11 | NigelTufnel | I think I can fix it if thats the case |
| 06:32.29 | NigelTufnel | or make a script to restore it on logout/login |
| 06:33.45 | Repo | 10multiauction: 03Odlaw * r15 MultiAuction.lua: |
| 06:33.47 | Repo | MultiAuction: Added warning messages to notify when no price information is received for an item. (and don't get added) |
| 06:35.43 | Daegalus | on fire login no, on reloads and secondary logins, yes |
| 06:35.58 | NigelTufnel | thats what i mean ya |
| 06:36.53 | NigelTufnel | ya, its an odd one |
| 06:41.35 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: Its patching =] |
| 06:41.45 | Daegalus | nice nice =) |
| 06:42.19 | NigelTufnel | o man I hope this works perfectly =] |
| 06:42.26 | NigelTufnel | I dont want to ever go back to windows |
| 06:43.47 | Daegalus | depends on performance for you |
| 06:43.51 | NigelTufnel | ya exactly |
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| 06:51.53 | NigelTufnel | gah Daeg, I got int the char login screen, then quit so I could delete my user folder to reset settings, and now the pather wont run |
| 06:53.44 | NigelTufnel | funny though, if I click the x on the wine window, it will bring up the patcher for like 5 seconds before it finishes quiting =\ |
| 06:57.15 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: what is the point of the special launch command I am supposed to be using |
| 06:57.23 | NigelTufnel | that I AM using that is |
| 06:57.53 | Daegalus | try running without it and you will see |
| 06:58.02 | NigelTufnel | haha aight, well im running it with it right now |
| 06:58.04 | Daegalus | just wine warpatch.bin |
| 06:58.05 | NigelTufnel | and its being odd as well |
| 06:58.16 | Daegalus | well without the nice -n20 |
| 06:58.18 | NigelTufnel | the patcher wont show until I quit wine |
| 06:58.24 | Daegalus | it takes 60-70 tries |
| 06:58.28 | Daegalus | to get the patcher to launch |
| 06:58.31 | NigelTufnel | ah ok |
| 06:58.32 | Daegalus | cause it hangs at startup |
| 06:58.36 | Daegalus | 99% of the time |
| 06:58.41 | Daegalus | and you have to kill then relaunch |
| 06:58.41 | NigelTufnel | ya, I got it 1st few times |
| 06:58.45 | NigelTufnel | ya ok |
| 06:59.06 | NigelTufnel | any idea on why/how people plan on fixing that? |
| 06:59.20 | Daegalus | its a bug with wine, we need to wait for the devs to fixup wine |
| 06:59.30 | NigelTufnel | lame |
| 06:59.44 | Daegalus | or someone to find patches like the one liner that makes models work |
| 06:59.45 | NigelTufnel | how long till its obviously hanging |
| 07:00.10 | Daegalus | the patcher? pretty much after the first Fixme shows up but nothing happens after |
| 07:00.20 | NigelTufnel | fixme? |
| 07:00.22 | Daegalus | oh wait you have -all on the debug |
| 07:00.34 | Daegalus | do nice -n20 wine warpatch.bin |
| 07:00.37 | NigelTufnel | kk |
| 07:00.51 | Daegalus | winedebug=-all removes debug output |
| 07:01.21 | NigelTufnel | o shit it worked lol |
| 07:01.34 | NigelTufnel | hell ya 1% =] |
| 07:01.58 | Daegalus | lol, i just made a symlink in the winde directory to my war directory, and launched it :P |
| 07:02.09 | Daegalus | my war directory on my mounted windows partition |
| 07:02.10 | NigelTufnel | same |
| 07:02.25 | Daegalus | i think thats what slowed performance for me |
| 07:02.26 | NigelTufnel | im stuck handshaking... |
| 07:02.27 | Daegalus | but whatever |
| 07:02.36 | Daegalus | just give it a few |
| 07:02.43 | Daegalus | it always gets stuck fo rme for like 1 -2 minutes |
| 07:02.45 | Daegalus | then goes through |
| 07:02.59 | Daegalus | if hte mouse still moves, then you are fine |
| 07:03.15 | NigelTufnel | haha ya |
| 07:03.57 | NigelTufnel | aight, so this is not THAT well working of a warhammer client haha |
| 07:04.30 | NigelTufnel | k, got my char selected, loading now =] |
| 07:04.32 | Daegalus | works fine for me mostly |
| 07:05.27 | NigelTufnel | ya, just a bit finicky it sounds, what with the doing this and that, and restarting till it loads |
| 07:05.27 | NigelTufnel | o, im in |
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| 07:17.30 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: joining Tor Anroc right now, hopefuly this goes well |
| 07:17.49 | Daegalus | lol |
| 07:18.29 | NigelTufnel | its pretty damn smooth |
| 07:19.11 | Daegalus | lol, i guess you are luckier than i am, i could barely get past 20 fps on fastest framerate, BUT, i did it in a way where hundreds of things impacted performance, and i didnt do the Texture.c patch |
| 07:21.03 | NigelTufnel | ya my statement came early |
| 07:21.45 | NigelTufnel | im getting like 13 =[ |
| 07:21.52 | NigelTufnel | in high action |
| 07:22.05 | NigelTufnel | 22 or so in little action |
| 07:24.56 | NigelTufnel | 30 in sc looking at the ground =[ |
| 07:28.35 | NigelTufnel | ok, so I would say, while sweet and "playable", this is no where near preferable =[ |
| 07:32.04 | thanners | mmmm, public test servers |
| 07:33.32 | thanners | supposedly working morale abilities, spell animations firing off/ending properly.. 1.05 looks good. |
| 07:34.20 | NigelTufnel | fancy |
| 07:35.52 | NigelTufnel | Daegalus: did you have to run war in a virtual desktop in wine? |
| 07:36.00 | NigelTufnel | I just did, asssuming I would have to |
| 07:36.34 | thanners | 17 pages of patch notes? that seems rather.. insane. |
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| 07:41.18 | Daegalus | thanners: and imma read every last line of it :P |
| 07:48.49 | thanners | Daegalus: heheh, yup. |
| 07:49.10 | shockbeta | Any idea why this doesn't force the label to be in front of the status bar: http://waruidev.pastey.net/100830 |
| 07:49.21 | shockbeta | the label from shockbarelement |
| 07:50.07 | Daegalus | i think its due to layering |
| 07:50.16 | Daegalus | overlay vs popup, vs parenting |
| 07:50.31 | shockbeta | so change overlay to popup? |
| 07:51.33 | shockbeta | cause that doesn't work... |
| 07:51.34 | shockbeta | lol |
| 07:52.10 | Daegalus | im not sure, you will have to look through it more thoroughly, but what im saying, make sure they arent on the same layer, or if you want something to be a child of something else, to make parenting properly. I would say make the labels parent the element window, and then set lavel to overlay |
| 07:52.40 | Daegalus | proper parenting is important in WAR. |
| 07:53.17 | shockbeta | hmm parenting might be biting me... thanks |
| 07:53.52 | Daegalus | for me when i didnt parent my Sell Junk button to the vendor window, it would show through the map and ontop of hte map, and i would have to constantly setshowing it whenever it opened and closed, as soon as i parented it, it was now part of the window only, and iddnt show up over anything that the vendor window isnt over. and i didnt have to do set showing anymore cause the button will only... |
| 07:53.54 | Daegalus | ...show if hte parent is shown. |
| 07:59.25 | shockbeta | yeah it was parenting... was adding second window so I could add custom stuff to plugins... but sitll maintain original plugins using the global settings manager... well I had to set the original windowelement to be the child of the plugin, but I had not done that yet for the new custom element window.... |
| 08:00.42 | Daegalus | hehe, glad it worked out |
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| 12:17.25 | Werelds | err folks, what time is PST atm? |
| 12:17.44 | Werelds | anyone know what the time diff with GMT is? :< |
| 12:23.40 | Jarika | 8hours i think. should be 4:23 am there now |
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| 15:42.25 | Daegalus | mmm, patch notes arent up >_> *taps foot* |
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| 16:05.16 | Noctys | ~seen purl |
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| 16:05.45 | Noctys | Anybody know what is up with files updating from curse??? |
| 16:13.50 | Felyza | Anyone wanna play quick beta tester? |
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| 16:36.50 | Noctys | ~seen lua_bot |
| 16:36.52 | purl | lua_bot is currently on #waruidev (1d 2h 56m 6s) #wowprogramming (1d 2h 56m 6s) #norganna (1d 2h 56m 6s) #wowuidev (1d 2h 56m 6s) #wowace (1d 2h 56m 6s) #curseforge (1d 2h 56m 6s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 8h 19m 54s, last said: 'nevcairiel: 28'. |
| 16:43.46 | Felyza | Noctys, or NigelTufnel, can you do a quick test for me? |
| 16:43.53 | Felyza | In game |
| 16:44.13 | Noctys | Maybe... :) |
| 16:44.30 | Felyza | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autobar/files/6-v2-0-1-beta/ and see if it works |
| 16:44.47 | Felyza | Finally found an instance where you MUST change version number, I think |
| 16:46.35 | Noctys | You want me to test anything specific??? |
| 16:48.07 | Felyza | Just load it up and tell me if it displays, you'll need a few potions on you |
| 16:48.33 | Noctys | I have no potions!!! :( |
| 16:49.05 | Felyza | are you close to the city were you can drop a few silver to pick up a potion? |
| 16:49.29 | Noctys | One of my Alts should have potions. |
| 16:49.35 | Felyza | that'd work |
| 16:49.58 | Felyza | doesn't need main character testing, any character with potions would work |
| 16:50.14 | Felyza | if they have any potion you can eat too, that would also help |
| 16:50.41 | Felyza | i've been buying stacks of volatile ap potions, so i can cast a spell then quaff one to check timers |
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| 16:53.26 | Noctys | I have two AP potions on this one. How do I get the window to come up? |
| 16:53.36 | Noctys | nvermind |
| 16:53.38 | Felyza | Did it not appear automatically? |
| 16:53.42 | Noctys | It did |
| 16:53.43 | Felyza | Should appear center of screen |
| 16:53.55 | Felyza | Does it display stack? |
| 16:53.58 | Noctys | I just didn't see it... Right next to where I have my target windows |
| 16:54.28 | Noctys | I see one potion on it. |
| 16:54.41 | Felyza | Damn, that's still not quite working right |
| 16:54.41 | Noctys | It is the better of the two |
| 16:54.50 | Felyza | Can you bank one? |
| 16:54.56 | Felyza | The better one |
| 16:55.02 | Felyza | So that the bigger stack is shown? |
| 16:55.08 | Felyza | or wait |
| 16:55.13 | Noctys | I only have one of each |
| 16:55.18 | Felyza | 2 means two singles of different strength |
| 16:55.23 | Noctys | yes |
| 16:55.25 | Felyza | k |
| 16:55.54 | Felyza | mind quaffing one to see if timer number is displayed right? |
| 16:56.18 | Noctys | I'll log in with my bank character, they can buy stuff. |
| 16:56.55 | Noctys | Is your config menu made mostley in XML? |
| 16:57.10 | Felyza | Yes, for now |
| 16:57.43 | Felyza | Once I can iron out a few more kinks in how the bar is working, I'll be redoing the config to use all templates, and add quite a few things to it |
| 16:59.39 | Felyza | Noctys, are you on NA servers or euro? |
| 16:59.51 | Noctys | NA |
| 16:59.56 | Felyza | darn |
| 17:00.13 | Felyza | i need someone on euro to run a command in every language they can |
| 17:00.22 | Noctys | My bank character can't use any of the potions... lol |
| 17:00.29 | Felyza | ha |
| 17:00.29 | Noctys | One more moment |
| 17:00.59 | Felyza | I get bank mules to 20 for the extra 2 bags |
| 17:01.14 | Felyza | Also good for playtesting other classes |
| 17:03.08 | Noctys | I'll do that eventually... I have 3 toons at 20 - 25... But that is it. |
| 17:03.19 | Noctys | Don't have enough time to play anymore... |
| 17:06.49 | Noctys | Doesn't seem to be working as designed. |
| 17:07.00 | Felyza | What happened |
| 17:07.01 | Noctys | Felyza^^^^ |
| 17:07.08 | Noctys | Doesn't show the timer. |
| 17:07.13 | Felyza | move the bar |
| 17:07.32 | Felyza | did it appear? |
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| 17:10.51 | Noctys | Nope... Didn't help |
| 17:11.07 | Noctys | I also turned on the stregth option |
| 17:11.22 | Felyza | Sigh |
| 17:11.36 | Noctys | The 'button' for it didn't appear |
| 17:11.44 | Felyza | ? |
| 17:11.58 | Noctys | After moving it the number 10 showed up, but I only have one of them' |
| 17:12.05 | Felyza | great |
| 17:12.16 | Felyza | Looks like I'm back to the drawing board then |
| 17:12.19 | Noctys | the 10 is for the potion to the left of it, but it also shows 10 so it is working right. |
| 17:12.27 | Noctys | good luck (I know the feeling) |
| 17:13.03 | Felyza | I've compeltely rewritten how the bar works well over a dozen times, from the ground up every time, using all sorts of methods, and can't get it quite right |
| 17:18.11 | Felyza | Someone created an account to ask for localization for autobar, so I sent them a nice email and explaination on how to run TextLogCreate("abs") TextLogSetEnabled("abs",true) TextLogSetIncrementalSaving("abs", true, "logs/abs.log") for x=7000,8000 do local c = GetAbilityDesc (x, 40) TextLogAddEntry("abs", x, (L"A:" .. x .. L" L:" .. 40 .. L" D:" .. c)) end |
| 17:26.13 | Felyza | Noctys, it seems to be working for me, after I ran defaults. |
| 17:26.57 | talvinen | Aii? |
| 17:27.32 | Noctys | The first one may have worked fine... I wasn't able to get back in time to move it. On the second potion that is where it didn't show up, and it was after I enabled the stregth option. Not sure if any of that had somethign to do with it. |
| 17:28.04 | Felyza | It shouldn't |
| 17:28.07 | Felyza | Sigh |
| 17:28.13 | Noctys | Talvinen: Are you using libGUI? |
| 17:28.21 | talvinen | yes |
| 17:28.45 | Noctys | Have you figured out how to get text to align left. All the text I make with it seems to align center. |
| 17:29.10 | Felyza | LabelSetTextAlign()? |
| 17:29.22 | Noctys | I had that to left and it still went center. |
| 17:29.36 | talvinen | What type of frame are you using? Label? |
| 17:30.32 | talvinen | If so, try to use LabelElement:Align("left") |
| 17:31.09 | Noctys | I'll try that... yes it's a label. |
| 17:32.11 | Noctys | Actually that W.mainWindow.yMenuLabels.rhealer:Align("Left") is what I have... I'll try the other one. |
| 17:32.47 | talvinen | lots of children :) |
| 17:33.05 | talvinen | I use S.Container.Labels[val.name]:Align("right") and it works |
| 17:33.23 | talvinen | try to use a lower "left", not "Left" |
| 17:34.25 | Noctys | Felyza: is it suppose to show a count-down on the potion, or just greyed out? |
| 17:34.38 | Felyza | countdown |
| 17:34.43 | Felyza | when its greyed, move the bar |
| 17:35.10 | talvinen | weird. |
| 17:35.27 | Noctys | lower case fixed it. |
| 17:35.36 | talvinen | I have this piece of code: |
| 17:35.39 | Noctys | That works |
| 17:35.41 | talvinen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.41 | talvinen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.41 | talvinen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.41 | talvinen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.41 | talvinen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.52 | Noctys | Moving it while greyed out worked |
| 17:36.13 | talvinen | and get an error message, saying "attempt to call a table value" |
| 17:36.17 | Felyza | talvinen, either compress to a single line (since line breaks don't matter anyway) or use pastey please |
| 17:36.30 | Noctys | I think it was that fact that the last potion got used up before, and when it switched to the new one it didn;t show the cool-down. |
| 17:36.43 | Noctys | That is what my bag was showing too. |
| 17:36.56 | Felyza | problem is, it SHOULD display right, without moving |
| 17:37.11 | Felyza | its called the same way the backpack is |
| 17:37.22 | Felyza | but the backpack updates right, my bar doesn't |
| 17:39.20 | Noctys | I wonder if it is like the target update thing. |
| 17:39.46 | Noctys | I wonder if there is a way to update it after the backpack updates, not at the same time. |
| 17:40.09 | Felyza | completely seperate bars |
| 17:40.17 | Noctys | Because it may go: You Mod --> Potion Update --> Backpack Update |
| 17:40.28 | Noctys | That was the issue I had with targetting |
| 17:40.55 | Noctys | It would go --> MyTargetUpdate --> Target Data Updated --> WAR API Targets Updated |
| 17:40.56 | Felyza | I can poke at it, however, its pulling information directly from inventory data |
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| 17:41.08 | shockbeta_2 | wow it didn't like me:( |
| 17:41.09 | Felyza | Not from backpack window |
| 17:42.27 | Noctys | Right, but your updating the same way the backpack is, but maybe something else is happening behind the scenes that you don't see, and that happens after the call that updates that backpack, before the backpack updates and after your mod updates. |
| 17:42.38 | Noctys | Not sure if anyone can understand that but me... :( |
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| 17:42.57 | Felyza | Noctys, I'll try adding a delay to it |
| 17:42.58 | Daegalus | mmmm, no patch notes yet *waits anxiously* |
| 17:47.00 | talvinen | lua> t={alpha = 3, beta = 5} for key,val in t do print(key) end |
| 17:47.00 | lua_bot | talvinen: luabot:1: attempt to call a table value |
| 17:47.10 | talvinen | lua> t={alpha = 3, beta = 5} for key,val in pairs(t) do print(key) end |
| 17:47.10 | lua_bot | talvinen: alpha, beta |
| 17:47.17 | talvinen | that's it |
| 17:47.36 | talvinen | *pokes Aii* |
| 17:52.43 | Noctys | Aii went to bed like 5 hours ago... I don't think she is awake yet |
| 17:52.47 | Noctys | ~seen |
| 17:53.07 | Noctys | ~seen Aiiane |
| 17:53.10 | purl | aiiane is currently on #waruidev (3d 16h 58m 31s) #wowuidev (3d 16h 58m 31s) #wowace (3d 16h 58m 31s) #curseforge (3d 16h 58m 31s). Has said a total of 550 messages. Is idling for 6h 2m 32s, last said: 'sleepytime, nini~'. |
| 17:53.35 | Noctys | OK, 6 hours ago. |
| 17:55.19 | talvinen | I didn't know she does sleep. At all. |
| 17:56.25 | talvinen | But okay, it's 7pm here, don't really know how late it is in the states :) |
| 17:58.37 | WikkiFizzle | 1pm on the east coast of US |
| 17:58.48 | WikkiFizzle | Not sure which timezone Aii is in though |
| 17:58.56 | CowBook | i think PST |
| 17:59.41 | CowBook | is there any reason that i should use BuffThrottle if I use squared, cleanunitframes, and buffhead? any idea? |
| 18:00.10 | Daegalus | She does live on the west coast, so PST. And its 10 am here |
| 18:00.25 | CowBook | "BuffThrottle only works for the default buff trackers." |
| 18:00.29 | CowBook | looks like i don't need it |
| 18:00.31 | WikkiFizzle | If any of those addons use the BuffTracker it maybe worth while to use Cow |
| 18:00.40 | CowBook | well, i have no idea |
| 18:00.46 | CowBook | these things are unfortunately unclear |
| 18:00.57 | talvinen | I think CUF uses the BuffTracker |
| 18:01.00 | talvinen | Squared does not |
| 18:01.04 | talvinen | dunno about buffhead |
| 18:01.48 | CowBook | well, i suppose it doesn't hurt to have the addon installed |
| 18:02.11 | CowBook | i'm just trying to remove addons i don't really use |
| 18:03.25 | WikkiFizzle | BuffHead does not use the default tracker |
| 18:06.10 | WikkiFizzle | hex to binary conversion ftl :/ |
| 18:07.19 | talvinen | aren't there lua functions for this? |
| 18:10.06 | Felyza | talvinen, you're on euro servers? |
| 18:10.06 | talvinen | yes |
| 18:10.06 | Felyza | ooo |
| 18:10.07 | Felyza | can you switch languages and actually get other languages? |
| 18:10.11 | talvinen | yes and no |
| 18:10.15 | Felyza | ?@ |
| 18:10.18 | Felyza | ?! |
| 18:10.22 | talvinen | you can change the language of the client |
| 18:10.30 | talvinen | of the interface elements, skill descriptions.. |
| 18:10.44 | talvinen | but things like mob names, quest descriptions etc. won't change |
| 18:10.51 | Felyza | what language are you running in |
| 18:10.54 | talvinen | German |
| 18:11.37 | Felyza | mind doing a really quick script just to check it |
| 18:11.42 | Felyza | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.53 | Felyza | then see if debug window shows En or De |
| 18:12.06 | talvinen | it's german |
| 18:12.18 | CowBook | does d() print a result to a window? i've never used it |
| 18:12.18 | talvinen | AP Potion Text :) |
| 18:12.29 | Felyza | can i pweese have you run a bunch of commands for me? |
| 18:12.32 | talvinen | CowBook: It prints to /debug |
| 18:12.36 | CowBook | some kind of debug logger? |
| 18:12.41 | CowBook | interesting, i'll have to try it |
| 18:12.42 | CowBook | heh |
| 18:13.08 | Felyza | CowBook, do /script d(GameData) ;) |
| 18:13.17 | WikkiFizzle | LOL |
| 18:13.24 | talvinen | Felyza: You could have the Log File with all descriptions from me, if you need one |
| 18:13.28 | CowBook | does it pretty-print dump objects? |
| 18:13.35 | talvinen | you know, the one with a size of 10 MB :) |
| 18:13.35 | WikkiFizzle | yes |
| 18:13.46 | Felyza | talvinen, I don't need the big one |
| 18:13.56 | Felyza | just run /script TextLogCreate("abs") TextLogSetEnabled("abs",true) TextLogSetIncrementalSaving("abs", true, "logs/abs.log") for x=7000,8000 do local c = GetAbilityDesc (x, 40) TextLogAddEntry("abs", x, (L"A:" .. x .. L" L:" .. 40 .. L" D:" .. c)) end |
| 18:14.11 | Felyza | that'll give me just potions, for level 40 effects |
| 18:14.41 | Felyza | only like 166kb |
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| 18:15.44 | Felyza | gd it, i need to open a port or something |
| 18:15.56 | talvinen | I can send you an email |
| 18:16.01 | talvinen | may be easier |
| 18:16.05 | Felyza | sec |
| 18:16.06 | CowBook | pastebin? |
| 18:17.50 | Felyza | talvinen, just email.... felyza@gmail.com |
| 18:18.14 | Felyza | if you could send every language you can set, it would be REALLY REALLY appreciated |
| 18:20.02 | Felyza | you should be able to send now |
| 18:20.06 | Felyza | via irc |
| 18:20.09 | Felyza | i think |
| 18:20.24 | CowBook | i think you should paste it in here, line by line |
| 18:20.31 | CowBook | i'm curous to see if my irc client can handle the unicode |
| 18:20.36 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 18:20.43 | Felyza | its 1001 lines |
| 18:20.49 | CowBook | i have all day |
| 18:21.09 | Felyza | ½º§¤ |
| 18:21.13 | Felyza | there |
| 18:21.37 | CowBook | £ø£ |
| 18:21.47 | talvinen | eeek, french client |
| 18:22.22 | Felyza | ÄÃŵÃÅÅĶŠūÄĸŠ|
| 18:22.46 | Felyza | can you read that one? |
| 18:23.07 | Daegalus | lol, hmm interesting |
| 18:23.10 | CowBook | ¡à Ãø à Dîdñâ ! |
| 18:23.18 | CowBook | heh |
| 18:23.44 | Felyza | here's another mix... ｦｧｨｩｪ뺯뺰뺲罼ç½ç½ââ³âââ |
| 18:24.16 | CowBook | ÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏÏ |
| 18:24.21 | CowBook | ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ |
| 18:24.25 | CowBook | ââââââââââââââ |
| 18:24.38 | CowBook | 6â6â6â6â |
| 18:26.20 | Felyza | à®à®¹â
ââââºâ¼âââ¡â â£â¤â¥â¦â§â¨â©âªâ«â¬â |
| 18:26.32 | Daegalus | grrrrr, proxycap 64bit is the only program that supports proxifying on a 64bit system, yet i cant find a crack for the 30 day trial |
| 18:27.24 | CowBook | gir! |
| 18:28.13 | Daegalus | w00t i get th new thing! |
| 18:28.29 | Felyza | talvinen, its reporting your local address, not correct ip address |
| 18:28.30 | CowBook | what are you trying to proxy? |
| 18:28.39 | Felyza | you need to telll it to give ip from server |
| 18:29.18 | talvinen | does this work? |
| 18:29.31 | Felyza | there we go |
| 18:31.06 | Felyza | um ok |
| 18:31.17 | Felyza | it says it compelted, but its not in the folder |
| 18:31.57 | talvinen | hum |
| 18:32.03 | Felyza | try again? |
| 18:32.08 | talvinen | possible another folder? |
| 18:32.21 | CowBook | i just said to a friend "i can't use the words survivablity and squig herder in the same sentence, unless there's an odd number of negatives also in that sentence" |
| 18:32.29 | Felyza | i have folder open now to see if it even appears |
| 18:32.54 | Felyza | CowBook, they have great survivability |
| 18:33.13 | Felyza | Not to mention a nasty moving AoE |
| 18:33.15 | talvinen | I have no idea what THAT language is Oo |
| 18:33.26 | Felyza | ?! |
| 18:33.27 | Noctys | Cowbook if you say: i can only use the words survivablity and squig herder in the same sentence, when there are an odd number of negatives also in that sentenc. |
| 18:33.27 | CowBook | at level 20, i can seldom get range because i'm always hamstrung |
| 18:33.33 | Noctys | then your statement is wrong |
| 18:33.51 | talvinen | "Por favor, identifícale para empezar el parche." |
| 18:33.54 | talvinen | spanish? |
| 18:33.55 | CowBook | good point, Noctys |
| 18:33.59 | Felyza | spanish |
| 18:33.59 | Noctys | lol |
| 18:34.07 | Noctys | But I know what you meant |
| 18:34.12 | CowBook | wait. i said can't |
| 18:34.17 | Noctys | I know |
| 18:34.20 | Noctys | I changed it |
| 18:34.20 | Felyza | talv, just send them to me, and i'll decipher them |
| 18:34.27 | CowBook | is unless also negative? |
| 18:34.29 | CowBook | oic |
| 18:34.34 | CowBook | i didn't realize you changed it |
| 18:34.35 | Noctys | no |
| 18:34.46 | CowBook | heh |
| 18:35.41 | CowBook | talvinen: please authorize to start patching in spanish :P |
| 18:35.41 | Felyza | CowBook, do you play or have you played a squig herder? |
| 18:35.47 | Noctys | What about a squig heard has the ultimate servibality compared to a level 1 rabbit? |
| 18:35.47 | CowBook | yeah, i have a lvl 20 |
| 18:36.12 | Felyza | If you spec for the giant squig form, you have decent survivability. |
| 18:36.18 | CowBook | i also played a wow hunter to level 70, which was extremely survivable.. so i understand the mechanics of a pet class |
| 18:36.48 | Felyza | You understand the mechanics of a World of Warcraft pet class, this is Warhammer. |
| 18:36.50 | CowBook | the squig herder, at least at level 20, lacks armor and the ability to break snares as much as it ought |
| 18:37.29 | Felyza | Trust me, going from an Ultima Online pet class, to an Everquest pet class, to World of Warcraft pet class, the mechanics are not the same. |
| 18:37.49 | CowBook | i'm not arguing your point |
| 18:38.03 | CowBook | but sh and hunter are both utility classes |
| 18:38.09 | CowBook | and shile sh has a ton of spells |
| 18:38.15 | Felyza | Then why say you know how the mechanic is supposed to be based on a WoW character? |
| 18:38.41 | talvinen | Felyza: Mail sent |
| 18:38.49 | CowBook | why not? |
| 18:38.54 | tronned | Anyone in game? |
| 18:38.55 | Felyza | talv, is that french and spanish? |
| 18:39.22 | Noctys | I am -- sorta... Working on a GUI for TargetInfoWindows |
| 18:39.32 | CowBook | either way, i don't think sh needs to do more damage. i think it really needs to be able to take more damage, and be able to better break snares |
| 18:39.38 | Noctys | Can't put in any effort to play while employees are here. |
| 18:39.57 | CowBook | getting range against melee opponents is a little bit too hard to do |
| 18:40.04 | CowBook | again, at least at level 20 and below |
| 18:40.04 | tronned | Noctys: Just type /s <icon20187> for me, and tell me what you see. ;) |
| 18:40.25 | talvinen | Felyza: Frensh, Spanish and Italiano |
| 18:40.31 | Felyza | CowBook, get your herder to 30, spec for giant squig and pbaoe, and then come back and tell me about their survivability. |
| 18:40.35 | Noctys | nice |
| 18:40.38 | Felyza | talvinen, Its very much appreciated |
| 18:40.43 | Noctys | Does it show up on others screens |
| 18:40.51 | tronned | Yeah. ;) |
| 18:40.53 | CowBook | Felyza, i might just try that.. but i do like playing at range too |
| 18:40.54 | talvinen | your welcome |
| 18:41.03 | CowBook | and i can't get range right now |
| 18:41.05 | Noctys | That could be awesome, both for testing and for mods |
| 18:41.09 | WikkiFizzle | MJ is starting to post the 1.0.5 patch notes upon VN boards |
| 18:41.13 | tronned | All the icons can be show via Labels with <iconNNNNN> |
| 18:41.18 | CowBook | WikkiFizzle: link? |
| 18:41.29 | WikkiFizzle | http://vnboards.ign.com/warhammer_online_age_of_reckoning_general_board/b22997/109335186/p1/?43 |
| 18:41.30 | Noctys | have you tried sounds? |
| 18:41.31 | CowBook | Felyza, i can't wait to level the SH higher, i really enjoy the class |
| 18:41.38 | tronned | It can mess up colors in the chat window though, but if the icon is in its own label, then it's fine ;) |
| 18:41.40 | Felyza | CowBook, a good friend is up to 35 on their SH, they use the big squig, then run right among the BW's, AoE'ing using their moving PBAoE, and they eat all the BW's before dying |
| 18:41.41 | CowBook | it's just rough going atm |
| 18:41.54 | CowBook | i kinda like to fight from range |
| 18:42.06 | CowBook | i have a DoK that i use for melee, and it's freakin awesome |
| 18:42.28 | Felyza | He doesn't really melee, he just uses his pbaoe that he can run around while using |
| 18:42.53 | CowBook | well, i'll definitely consider it |
| 18:42.54 | Felyza | He drops back to range to plink between cooldowns |
| 18:42.59 | CowBook | i know it's a different class than the wow hunter |
| 18:43.07 | CowBook | it's just that hunter spoiled me :D |
| 18:43.28 | CowBook | hopefully by 40, it'll be the other way around! |
| 18:43.30 | Felyza | I was a hunter day 1 WoW launch, I got spoiled on the broken Agi |
| 18:43.37 | CowBook | heh yeah |
| 18:43.47 | Felyza | When they fixed it (after everyone else discovered it) I went warlock |
| 18:43.49 | CowBook | when BC came out i went BM and never looked back |
| 18:43.59 | CowBook | it was awesome, having that extra snare break |
| 18:44.17 | Felyza | I was BE lock, aoe silence was fun |
| 18:44.20 | CowBook | cool |
| 18:44.35 | shockbeta_2 | You can also embed icons in tooltips:D |
| 18:44.38 | Felyza | dot dot dot, insta-nuke, no heals for you, you die |
| 18:45.07 | shockbeta_2 | which I think after rereading is exactly what you were saying:-/ |
| 18:45.29 | tronned | shockbeta_2: Icons as Labels, which is awesome, yes |
| 18:45.47 | tronned | except, to change the size, you simply change the font of the label |
| 18:45.54 | tronned | font_default_text_huge ;) |
| 18:46.01 | shockbeta_2 | yeah, figured that out when adding class icon to friendstooltip |
| 18:46.07 | Felyza | CowBook, the hunter in WoW, at launch, was broken on +crit from agi, at level 30 I had a 90% crit chance |
| 18:46.42 | Felyza | Similar to a level 40 BW crit chance here, when they have full combustion |
| 18:47.20 | Felyza | My testing seems to indicate their combustion crit chance stacks on top of their normal crit chance, ignoring any caps |
| 18:47.38 | Noctys | Talvinen: Have you used checkboxs from LibGUI? |
| 18:48.31 | Felyza | oh, i don't want to redo this entire file again |
| 18:49.34 | talvinen | Noctys: Yes |
| 18:49.36 | tronned | http://antipersonnel.org/media/images/storage/081106-moth-labelicon2.jpg xD |
| 18:49.42 | tronned | er, that was for Noctys |
| 18:50.29 | CowBook | Felyza, i played a rogue at wow launch up to level 20, then quit for 18 months. came back as a hunter then and played to 60, and then 70 |
| 18:50.35 | Noctys | tronned: Excelent |
| 18:50.37 | CowBook | so i don't know how the hunter was early on |
| 18:51.04 | Noctys | Talvinen: Is there an easy way to assign a saved variable to each check box, or so you have to make a function for each one? |
| 18:51.27 | CowBook | except that my hunter guildmates at the time levelled faster than anyone else :D |
| 18:53.30 | Daegalus | I played a rogue to 70 |
| 18:53.31 | tronned | I started a Warlock (Miffy) and stopped her at 36, then was a Rogue from then on, with a couple of bi-curious escapades with an alt Hunter ;) |
| 18:53.54 | Felyza | Noctys, if you're making your own buttons, put an id number in their name, then you can strip it out from activewindow, and act accordingly on it |
| 18:54.16 | Felyza | get my autobar addon (any version) and look at settings |
| 18:54.46 | Noctys | Felyza are you using LibGUI? |
| 18:55.05 | Felyza | no |
| 18:56.14 | Noctys | Aiiane has done most of the work for me with that library. I'm just trying to figure out if she programmed in a shortcut where you assciate a variable with it and when you check/uncheck a value it autoupdates it. |
| 18:56.59 | Daegalus | windbg sucks, i wish OllyDbg worked for 64bit applications. Then i could just crack Proxycap myself >_> |
| 19:02.17 | tronned | woot, scenario pop |
| 19:02.24 | tronned | let's see how LibTargetInfo does ;) |
| 19:02.47 | tronned | oh, yeah ... career icons = hotness |
| 19:02.48 | talvinen | Noctys: Not sure what you mean |
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| 19:04.13 | Daegalus | O.o repo is having a heart attack |
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| 19:08.22 | `Zypher_ | anyone know if it's possible to UnregisterAllEvents? |
| 19:09.59 | `Zypher | Cairenn: you there? |
| 19:11.26 | CowBook | 1.05 notes: |
| 19:11.37 | CowBook | "â¢Fixed an issue with the targeting system that could be used by players to gain an unfair advantage. Targeting of friendly players will now work in the same way as using abilities. Players must either use a keyboard key or click with the mouse to acquire a friendly target. To target a monster or NPC, players must click on the target in the world or /assist a friendly player. Players using our default user interface shoul |
| 19:12.38 | CowBook | what addons were working around this? |
| 19:12.48 | `Zypher | CowBook: where did you get those? |
| 19:12.56 | CowBook | http://vnboards.ign.com/warhammer_online_age_of_reckoning_general_board/b22997/109335186/p1/?43 |
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| 19:14.52 | Daegalus | Root effects, with the exception of morale roots, will now grant a 5 second immunity from all roots to the victim when the effect breaks, and in addition will no longer stack with other roots. |
| 19:14.59 | Daegalus | FINALLy! |
| 19:15.28 | CowBook | hopefully when you're casting a root on someone immune, you get a message like "target is immune" |
| 19:15.31 | CowBook | so you know what's going on |
| 19:17.34 | `Zypher | is |
| 19:17.36 | `Zypher | hmm |
| 19:17.38 | `Zypher | is there still |
| 19:17.38 | CowBook | it's all here too now |
| 19:17.39 | CowBook | http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=434 |
| 19:17.46 | `Zypher | RegisterCoreEventHandler? |
| 19:18.39 | Noctys | talvinen: Sorry -- had to work. I guess at this point I am just wondering how to update my variable to match the state of the checked-box. I am thinking she probably put in a really easy way to do it. |
| 19:20.11 | `Zypher | is there any reason why |
| 19:20.13 | `Zypher | local HandleUnit = function(unit, object) |
| 19:20.16 | `Zypher | wouldn't work? |
| 19:20.18 | talvinen | you can use GetValue(), SetValue(), Check(), Clear() and Toggle() to change/get the value of the checkbox |
| 19:20.41 | talvinen | Zypher: did you put an end after the function? |
| 19:20.50 | `Zypher | yes |
| 19:20.53 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:24.20 | Noctys | talvinen -- I can get the value. But how to I tell my variable to update. Is there an event that is called on click or something? |
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| 19:25.59 | Daegalus | ok, every line of patch 1.05 is full of astronomical win |
| 19:27.21 | talvinen | Noctys: try to use YourFrame.OnLButtonUp = function() yourvar = YourFrame:GetValue() end |
| 19:27.28 | sysrage | ya it looks pretty good. kinda wish a little more was done for WE's, but i'm not gonna cry. really only care about fleet footed being broken |
| 19:27.46 | Noctys | cool, thanks Talvinen. that's what I was looking for |
| 19:27.50 | Daegalus | eh, im just happy the supposedly nerfed BW |
| 19:27.51 | sysrage | which won't matter as much with the changes to roots/snares |
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| 19:28.35 | sysrage | i sure wish i could go back to T3 and not get rooted in lava, though |
| 19:29.25 | sysrage | curious which mods got nerfed by the changes to targeting |
| 19:29.43 | Noctys | they changed targeting???!!!! |
| 19:29.45 | Noctys | Bah |
| 19:29.54 | sysrage | there was one note about it |
| 19:30.17 | sysrage | Fixed an issue with the targeting system that could be used by players to gain an unfair advantage. Targeting of friendly players will now work in the same way as using abilities. Players must either use a keyboard key or click with the mouse to acquire a friendly target. To target a monster or NPC, players must click on the target in the world or /assist a friendly player. Players using our default user interface should see no change |
| 19:30.19 | Noctys | Hopefully they just implemeneted Aii targetFix |
| 19:31.27 | Noctys | Hmmm... Looks like someone created a mod like I wanted to make... AutoTarget based on class or hitpoint %. |
| 19:31.41 | Noctys | Don't think it will effect my library |
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| 19:37.43 | Felyza | lua> test=65 print("" .. math.ceil(test/60) .. "s") |
| 19:37.43 | lua_bot | Felyza: 2s |
| 19:37.46 | Daegalus | and of course, 11 pages of QQ |
| 19:38.00 | Felyza | lua> test=65 print("" .. math.ceil(test/60) .. "m") |
| 19:38.00 | lua_bot | Felyza: 2m |
| 19:38.13 | Felyza | lua> test=65 print("" .. math.floor(test/60) .. "m") |
| 19:38.14 | lua_bot | Felyza: 1m |
| 19:38.30 | talvinen | noez :( |
| 19:38.36 | talvinen | dps buffs, healer nerfs.. |
| 19:38.39 | talvinen | tough times |
| 19:38.56 | Daegalus | yup, though it might not necessarily be a buff for BW |
| 19:39.05 | Daegalus | since htey nerfed a bunch of the broken abilities |
| 19:39.25 | talvinen | Felyza: |
| 19:39.34 | Felyza | ? |
| 19:39.44 | talvinen | try TimeUtils.FormatTimeCondensed(time) |
| 19:40.00 | talvinen | this is the standard way the UI builds time strings |
| 19:40.10 | Felyza | lua> timeutils.formattimecondensed(65) |
| 19:40.11 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'timeutils' (a nil value) |
| 19:40.19 | talvinen | try it ingame :) |
| 19:41.03 | Daegalus | class time, cya laters |
| 19:41.05 | Felyza | that works |
| 19:41.24 | Felyza | my function is doing the same thing =) |
| 19:41.35 | talvinen | not exactly |
| 19:41.55 | Felyza | its close |
| 19:42.08 | talvinen | yes :) |
| 19:42.16 | Felyza | as per localization, I was using GetString(StringTables.Default.LABEL_TIMER_SECONDS_ABBREVIATION) for abbrev's |
| 19:43.56 | Felyza | ah, that won't work for me |
| 19:44.08 | Felyza | i need TimeUtils.FormatTimeCondensedTruncate(time) |
| 19:44.53 | talvinen | hmm |
| 19:45.12 | Felyza | i have 5 characters wide to work with, it doesn't handle some numbers well for that |
| 19:46.29 | Felyza | lua> print (65/180) |
| 19:46.30 | lua_bot | Felyza: 0.36111111111111 |
| 19:46.37 | Felyza | lua> print (5/180) |
| 19:46.38 | lua_bot | Felyza: 0.027777777777778 |
| 19:47.25 | Felyza | lua> print (tonumber(string.format("%.1f,(5/180)))) |
| 19:47.26 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 19:47.30 | Felyza | lua> print (tonumber(string.format("%.1f",(5/180)))) |
| 19:47.31 | lua_bot | Felyza: 0 |
| 19:47.38 | Felyza | lua> print (tonumber(string.format("%.1f",(65/180)))) |
| 19:47.38 | lua_bot | Felyza: 0.4 |
| 19:48.39 | Felyza | lua> print (math.floor(math.ceil(tonumber(string.format("%.1f",(65/180)))), 0.8)0.1) |
| 19:48.40 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: ')' expected near '0.1' |
| 19:48.45 | Felyza | lua> print (math.floor(math.ceil(tonumber(string.format("%.1f",(65/180)))), 0.8)0.1)) |
| 19:48.45 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: ')' expected near '0.1' |
| 19:49.41 | Felyza | lua> print (math.floor(math.ceil(tonumber(string.format("%.1f",(65/180)))), 0.8),0.1) |
| 19:49.41 | lua_bot | Felyza: 1, 0.1 |
| 19:50.00 | Felyza | hmm |
| 19:50.53 | Cairenn | `Zypher: I am now |
| 19:50.59 | `Zypher | bah |
| 19:51.14 | `Zypher | what is the site where you guys had documented the wow interface changes |
| 19:51.17 | `Zypher | wdn or something |
| 19:51.24 | talvinen | Electromagnet + Knockback into the lava is such a lame tatic =/ |
| 19:51.35 | Cairenn | ~wowcompares |
| 19:51.35 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com |
| 19:51.35 | Thunder_Child | ~wdn |
| 19:51.36 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 19:51.50 | Cairenn | same place |
| 19:52.16 | Felyza | cooldownPercent = 65/180 if tonumber(string.format("%.1f",cooldownPercent)) > 0.8 then cooldownPercent = 0.8 elseif tonumber(string.format("%.1f",cooldownPercent)) < 0.1 then cooldownPercent = 0.1 end print(cooldownPercent) |
| 19:52.22 | Felyza | lua> cooldownPercent = 65/180 if tonumber(string.format("%.1f",cooldownPercent)) > 0.8 then cooldownPercent = 0.8 elseif tonumber(string.format("%.1f",cooldownPercent)) < 0.1 then cooldownPercent = 0.1 end print(cooldownPercent) |
| 19:52.22 | lua_bot | Felyza: 0.36111111111111 |
| 19:53.03 | `Zypher | thanks |
| 19:53.06 | Felyza | lua> cooldownPercent = tonumber(string.format("%.1f",(65/180)) if tonumber(string.format("%.1f",cooldownPercent)) > 0.8 then cooldownPercent = 0.8 elseif tonumber(string.format("%.1f",cooldownPercent)) < 0.1 then cooldownPercent = 0.1 end print(cooldownPercent) |
| 19:53.06 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'if' |
| 19:56.50 | CowBook | Cairenn, you play a DoK, right? |
| 19:57.09 | Cairenn | CowBook: play? what's that? |
| 19:58.32 | `Zypher | lawl |
| 20:00.26 | CowBook | Well, either way, Patch Wounds will remove a hex. Which is what the Bright Wizard's flaming cage of gheyness is. |
| 20:01.10 | `Zypher | Aiiane: you there |
| 20:01.13 | `Zypher | ? |
| 20:01.29 | CowBook | i think i was thinking of someone else |
| 20:01.30 | CowBook | not sure |
| 20:01.39 | CowBook | no biggie either way :D |
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| 20:19.57 | Felyza | oh wow, i just got a huge performance increase from changing a few things regarding onupdates |
| 20:20.05 | CowBook | orly |
| 20:20.51 | Felyza | i have blackbox installed, which registers the event UPDATE_PROCESSED, so I deleted that line, and added <CallFunction name="BlackBox.UpdateTimer" /> to the mod file's OnUpdate section, and gained 10fps |
| 20:21.15 | Felyza | also, it does not spam the crap outta the debug window function calls |
| 20:21.37 | CowBook | damn |
| 20:22.05 | Felyza | so summary: do NOT register UPDATE_PROCESSED, instead, put the function in the OnUpdate section of your mod files |
| 20:22.28 | CowBook | so weird |
| 20:22.34 | CowBook | i wonder why that is |
| 20:22.55 | Felyza | ha, a huge performance increase by modifying an Aiiane addon |
| 20:23.12 | CowBook | you know what you need to do now, go in and check them all |
| 20:23.15 | CowBook | :P |
| 20:23.22 | Felyza | easy |
| 20:23.31 | Felyza | just turn on function calls in debug window |
| 20:23.34 | Felyza | that was only one |
| 20:23.45 | Felyza | so lick yourself |
| 20:24.22 | CowBook | Squared uses it |
| 20:24.36 | Noctys | It's sorta scary when you rewrite 30 lines of code and add a GUI and everything works the first time... I keep looking for issues. |
| 20:24.37 | Felyza | i don't use squared |
| 20:25.31 | Felyza | on my healer, i play the healgrid mini game ;) but not on other toons |
| 20:25.49 | CowBook | BlackBox/BlackBox.lua |
| 20:25.49 | CowBook | Squared/TargetInfoFix.lua |
| 20:25.49 | CowBook | Squared/SquaredConfigurator/ClassColorPanel.lua |
| 20:25.49 | CowBook | Squared/SquaredConfigurator/ColorGroupPanel.lua |
| 20:25.49 | CowBook | Squared/SquaredConfigurator/MiscColorPanel.lua |
| 20:26.00 | CowBook | those are all the files i have that reference UPDATE_PROCESSED |
| 20:26.27 | CowBook | i like squared so much that i use it as my standard party / scenario / wb ui |
| 20:26.33 | CowBook | it's so damn small and cute |
| 20:26.36 | Felyza | remove all references, and instead, put <CallFunction name="WHATEVERFUNCTION" /> in their mod files under <OnUpdate> |
| 20:27.11 | CowBook | well, she's registering and unregistering in there |
| 20:27.17 | CowBook | it's not quite as simple |
| 20:27.22 | Felyza | i tried using the update_processed to handle timers, and noticed that, made the switch to the mod file, and saw 5fps gain, did blackbox too, and got another 10fps |
| 20:31.34 | CowBook | if only i could get a faster cpu and video card, i'd REALLY see an fps boost :D |
| 20:33.25 | WikkiFizzle | Thats the issue Im having now..my cpu/video are too fast to try to test speed optimizations :/ |
| 20:33.45 | WikkiFizzle | So be happy your cpu/video arent that good :P |
| 20:33.53 | CowBook | rofl ok sure |
| 20:36.19 | WikkiFizzle | Trying to find ways to speed up effect processing in Aura |
| 20:36.31 | WikkiFizzle | Have a few small things so far |
| 20:39.04 | Aiiane | Felyza: do you get the same performance increase even with the debug log turned off? |
| 20:39.19 | Felyza | lemme check |
| 20:39.38 | Aiiane | because my guess is that the increase you're seeing might be purely due to the lack of logging |
| 20:42.36 | Felyza | its about 3-4fps without logging |
| 20:42.46 | `Zypher | Aiiane: is there any way to make a frame without an xml definition? |
| 20:48.32 | Aiiane | `Zypher: if you're ruling out using the standard UI's xml definitions as well, then no |
| 20:50.33 | `Zypher | this is upsetting :( |
| 20:51.50 | Aiiane | just fyi folks, judging from that note in the 1.0.5 list, what they've done is just removed TargetPlayer() |
| 20:52.04 | Aiiane | so be ready to update any addons you have that rely on it |
| 20:54.28 | chrixian | you talkin about the very last thing listed? |
| 20:55.04 | `Zypher | when is pts coming up? |
| 20:55.30 | sysrage | Aiiane: how big is that? do all the unitframe addons use that? |
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| 20:55.46 | `Zypher | sysrage: things like squared do |
| 20:55.46 | Aiiane | currently, most of them do sysrage. |
| 20:55.57 | Aiiane | Squared only needs a minor change not to, though. |
| 20:55.59 | sysrage | shitty |
| 20:56.18 | `Zypher | I just want ToT |
| 20:56.24 | `Zypher | and well |
| 20:56.31 | `Zypher | CreateFrame |
| 20:56.38 | `Zypher | to be able to make frames without xml |
| 20:57.01 | Aiiane | lunch and classtime, bbl |
| 20:57.28 | chrixian | why you wanna get rid of the xml so bad? it's kinda a nice practice to separation of concerns |
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| 20:57.43 | CowBook | anyone know what addon prompted this? |
| 20:57.47 | chrixian | *to have |
| 20:57.53 | CowBook | "Fixed an issue with the targeting system that could be used by players to gain an unfair advantage. Targeting of friendly players will now work in the same way as using abilities. Players must either use a keyboard key or click with the mouse to acquire a friendly target. To target a monster or NPC, players must click on the target in the world or /assist a friendly player. Players using our default user interface should se |
| 20:58.17 | `Zypher | chrixian: I just want to be able to spawn frames dynamically |
| 20:58.35 | `Zypher | for example |
| 20:58.41 | `Zypher | if(unit == "player") then |
| 20:58.54 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.57 | CowBook | maybe you can make a few frames in your xml and duplicate / modify them as needed |
| 20:58.58 | `Zypher | object.height = 200 |
| 20:59.03 | `Zypher | object.width = 300 |
| 20:59.04 | `Zypher | etc... |
| 20:59.19 | chrixian | i dig .. you could create 1 xml definition for a window that has nothing but a name ... and then use that with createwindowfromtemplate |
| 20:59.23 | `Zypher | CowBook: did you play wow? |
| 20:59.26 | CowBook | yes |
| 20:59.33 | `Zypher | did you ever use oUF? |
| 20:59.34 | CowBook | for too long |
| 20:59.46 | CowBook | i don't think so, i used discord unitframes |
| 20:59.49 | CowBook | it was a while ago |
| 20:59.50 | `Zypher | oh ok |
| 20:59.56 | `Zypher | well oUF provides the backend |
| 20:59.57 | CowBook | discord was a mess, but looked cool |
| 21:00.01 | `Zypher | then it has a style system |
| 21:00.11 | `Zypher | which registers a style into oUF |
| 21:00.17 | `Zypher | then tells oUF to spawn frames |
| 21:00.21 | `Zypher | for that style |
| 21:00.25 | `Zypher | that is what I wanted to do |
| 21:00.33 | `Zypher | butttt |
| 21:00.55 | `Zypher | I'm failing I guess |
| 21:01.06 | chrixian | why does what i just suggested not work |
| 21:01.13 | CowBook | write a createFrame method that uses a frame or frames defined in the XML for now, and then when you find out how to do it all via lua, modify just that method |
| 21:01.39 | `Zypher | chrixian: because setting everything via lua is wierd for me |
| 21:01.40 | chrixian | create 1 xml definition that is completely blank except for a name and then use it with CreateWindowFromTemplate |
| 21:01.41 | CowBook | make your code modular and generalized enough to allow for this |
| 21:01.41 | `Zypher | idk |
| 21:02.00 | `Zypher | I'll keep trying |
| 21:02.34 | tronned | ~Zypher: Moth creates all of its rows + cells on the fly, you could check out the code, maybe it will help |
| 21:03.01 | `Zypher | oh ya |
| 21:03.03 | `Zypher | I should rofl |
| 21:04.13 | tronned | Basically, a Moth cell contains all the elements needed to display text or an icon, so, if someone chose to, they could have 5 Level cells in a row |
| 21:04.23 | tronned | Rather than being restricted to whatever layout I chose |
| 21:05.49 | tronned | It also anchors them dynamically (kind of) and adjusts the overall Moth window width + height to the tmax cell width and total row heights |
| 21:05.59 | tronned | tmax=max |
| 21:06.56 | `Zypher | heh |
| 21:07.08 | `Zypher | one thing I would have liked with moth was to be able to anchor ontop of the mouse |
| 21:07.11 | `Zypher | so I tried |
| 21:07.13 | `Zypher | and its not pretty |
| 21:07.14 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:07.32 | tronned | The issue is with the CursorWindow and the slices it uses depending on the object you are mousing over |
| 21:07.40 | `Zypher | ya |
| 21:07.47 | tronned | I had some offset logic in, but in talking with Aii, it was just too messy |
| 21:08.12 | tronned | It annoys me, but after I finish the career names + icons + colors, I will revisit it. |
| 21:09.54 | *** join/#waruidev Freddy (n=Freddy@cpe-76-183-32-36.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 21:17.37 | sysrage | when do we get options again, tronned? ;) can't wait to have my delayed fade-out again |
| 21:19.30 | tronned | sysrage: um, when i can make fade in / fade out play nice again... that is, if people really want fade in |
| 21:20.24 | tronned | Next release, there will be a few profiles to choose from, manually of course ;) |
| 21:22.37 | Repo | 10autobar: 03Felyza * r10 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:22.38 | Repo | Complete rewrite of button display again. Should be free of errors with timer and stack counts. |
| 21:23.09 | Repo | 10autobar: 03Felyza * r11 AutobarData.lua: Forgot data file. |
| 21:25.14 | sysrage | don't care about fade-in, but i really miss fade-out.. it's not playing nice, still? i thought your re-write was gonna fix that. or different issue now? |
| 21:25.51 | Felyza | Now, as soon as file is approved, if anyone feels like doing a test on it, should be working. |
| 21:26.25 | sysrage | is that that potion bar mod? |
| 21:26.30 | Felyza | yeah |
| 21:26.42 | sysrage | was lookin at that last night. i'll probably give it a try tonight |
| 21:27.19 | tronned | sysrage: re-write was to fix tooltip tainting, i'll pop in a fade-out for next release, just for you ;) |
| 21:27.29 | Felyza | complete rewrite of how bar is displayed for the "lost count" time, now it doesn't rely on anything other than simple functions for cooldown timer and stack displays |
| 21:27.59 | Felyza | up next, localization proofing it |
| 21:28.31 | sysrage | tronned: you rock |
| 21:34.39 | *** join/#waruidev Jarika (n=ordan@mnhm-590f5583.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 21:35.05 | Jarika | guess its been discussed already, but what do you think, how will they screw up addons in 1.05? |
| 21:35.34 | Noctys | They only changed (from what I could see) something to do with targeting |
| 21:36.04 | chrixian | well how they enforce the "must use keyboard or mouse click" to target is yet to be seen but i imagine that will impact a lot of addons |
| 21:36.10 | Noctys | But it doesn't seem like it will break anything big. I guess there was a way to target something or someone based on an event. But I could never figure it out. |
| 21:36.57 | Noctys | What targets something without clicking or using the keyboard? |
| 21:37.03 | Jarika | yeah i'm talking about the targeting changes |
| 21:37.22 | Jarika | any addon that uses TargetPlayer potentially could do that |
| 21:37.56 | chrixian | ya .. aiiane seems to think they could possibly be removing TargetPlayer all together |
| 21:38.16 | Jarika | Yeah, that would break a whole lot of addons then |
| 21:38.20 | Noctys | Is that what people are using to cast spells on mouse-over targets? |
| 21:38.26 | Jarika | yes |
| 21:38.28 | chrixian | yep |
| 21:38.40 | Jarika | since they have to first target the player, cast spell, then target the old player again |
| 21:38.48 | Noctys | Ah.. I didn't think of that until just then. I bet that is what is going away. |
| 21:39.07 | Jarika | why is mouse over casting so bad? |
| 21:39.16 | Noctys | It's probably not that. |
| 21:39.19 | CowBook | well, even if they remove TargetPlayer, as long as they allow us to set SystemData.UserInput.ChatText and BroadcastEvent(SystemData.Events.SEND_CHAT_TEXT), we can still /target and /assist |
| 21:39.21 | CowBook | we'll see |
| 21:39.42 | Jarika | I mean, sure I can kinda understand they don't like mods like EMonitor around, but i really hope they're not going to screw it up for anything else |
| 21:39.48 | CowBook | i like click casting better, anyways :D |
| 21:40.05 | Noctys | But if you can mouseover cast... Then you can also go, on target death then target Healer, or target enemy with lowest hit points |
| 21:40.35 | Jarika | no, since you can't check for enemy hitpoints except for your current target |
| 21:41.07 | Jarika | and what does that have to do with mouseovercasts? |
| 21:41.41 | Noctys | nothing... But if you can switch targets without clicking, then you can also do that. |
| 21:42.13 | Jarika | theoretically yes. but you would have to target every enemy first to find the one with the lowest hitpoints. |
| 21:42.17 | Noctys | target enemey --> record hp --> target next enemy --> record hp.... Target Enemey with lowest HP |
| 21:42.43 | Noctys | It would only take about a second to switch through them all if it was automated |
| 21:42.49 | Jarika | as i said i can understand they may wanna get rid of that, i just hope they don't screw up all other UI mods |
| 21:42.57 | Jarika | less actually |
| 21:43.57 | Jarika | but fact is all UI mods use that very function, so if they remove it, you can click on a Squared box and nothing happens. so they have to give us something else to target player that checks for clicks or so |
| 21:43.58 | chrixian | they won't prevent you from targeting some by implicitly clicking on them either via unit frame or their game model.. so i wouldn't be toooo worried i just think targetplayer if not completely removed will be married to keyboard or mouse events.. |
| 21:44.04 | Noctys | But if it's only checking to make sure a key is pressed for each time, then you might just have to double-tap your key to cast on mouseover. |
| 21:44.34 | Jarika | They said it won't have an impact if you use the default unit frames! Thats a difference to "we'll allow every other unit frame to work still" |
| 21:44.43 | CowBook | do you actually need TargetPlayer to target a friend, or can you send /target PlayerName to the chatbox? |
| 21:44.49 | Noctys | they said default ui |
| 21:44.50 | CowBook | i know /assist works in that way |
| 21:44.56 | Noctys | no-mods installed |
| 21:45.04 | Jarika | I don't know, but I bet internally /target just calls TargetPlayer |
| 21:45.07 | chrixian | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.22 | CowBook | well, then how would they change /target? :D |
| 21:45.42 | Jarika | most likely to "Unknown command: /target" :) |
| 21:45.47 | CowBook | lol |
| 21:45.58 | Jarika | i'd not be surprised |
| 21:45.59 | Noctys | could just make TargetPlayer an internal function. like RangeToTarget |
| 21:46.04 | CowBook | they should keep TargetPlayer, but just internally check to see if it was triggered as the result of a keypress or mouseclick |
| 21:46.47 | Jarika | doubt that so easy |
| 21:46.55 | Jarika | well perhaps they do it |
| 21:47.03 | CowBook | it might not be easy, but that's what they get paid the big bucks for |
| 21:47.04 | Jarika | i mean WoW managed to do it with casting stuff |
| 21:47.04 | chrixian | well i think thats what is going away ... they want to marry aquiring a target to clicking the mouse or pressing a key.. so things like squared where you click on a person won't have a problem.. but will most likely need to change a little code if targetplayer's behavior is changed or removed or replaced |
| 21:47.11 | Noctys | I agree.... But we will have to wait and see. When is the test server suppose to be up? |
| 21:47.51 | talvinen | Has Aiiane showed up yet? |
| 21:48.03 | CowBook | come and gone |
| 21:48.06 | Jarika | @chrixian: I hope its like that that squared won't have a problem. But we don't know that yet, if they remove TargetPlayer and say "Why, you can still click on the toon to target someone or our crappy default UI" then it won't work anymore |
| 21:48.30 | CowBook | they probably mean that if you use the same technique as the default ui, you'll be ok |
| 21:48.39 | CowBook | at least, that's the hope! |
| 21:48.42 | WikkiFizzle | This is weird. The code I use to check if the user cast an effect on an enemy target, works fine for pve targets, but not pvp targets o.O |
| 21:48.43 | Jarika | Aiiane posted ont eh forum she has an idea what they're going to change and that she thinks squared will continue working with some changes if thats what they do. But no idea what her idea is |
| 21:48.56 | chrixian | jarika: they will not be removing the ability to target a player via the party or warband frame... and squared is more or less a glorified unit frame.. |
| 21:49.16 | Jarika | more or less for us, but internally its just an addon that calls a function |
| 21:49.45 | Noctys | WikkiFizzle: what addon are you working with? |
| 21:49.49 | WikkiFizzle | Aura |
| 21:49.58 | Jarika | But yes I guess they can track what event called a function, and if that event is a mouse or keybutton press they'll allow TargetPLayer, if its not then not. |
| 21:50.04 | chrixian | the default unit frames are "just an addon that calls a function" too =D |
| 21:50.42 | chrixian | i really have a hunch this is just to eliminate mouse hover casting and probably numerous features of aura which i have read about but not used |
| 21:50.44 | Noctys | WikkiFizzle: Oh yeah. That looks cool. Did you make the GUI for that (the one shown on its page) ? |
| 21:50.50 | WikkiFizzle | Yes |
| 21:50.59 | Noctys | How did you make the tabs? |
| 21:51.07 | Noctys | short version |
| 21:51.16 | WikkiFizzle | well they are essentially buttons |
| 21:51.31 | CowBook | i like it! buttons! |
| 21:51.33 | Noctys | Attached to the top of the window? |
| 21:51.34 | WikkiFizzle | :P |
| 21:51.36 | Jarika | Probably yes. I really hope it only disables mods that target automatically without a click and not others. still it sucks somewhat, i mean targeting is the least problem of that game |
| 21:51.43 | WikkiFizzle | and below the buttons are windows stacked on top of one another |
| 21:51.53 | WikkiFizzle | show/hide windows according to button press |
| 21:51.54 | Jarika | I mean honestly what the hell are they smoking to BUFF the bright wizards dots even more? |
| 21:52.05 | WikkiFizzle | Feel free to jack the code to do a tabbed interface |
| 21:52.20 | Noctys | Cool... I'll be taking a look at your code soon. Need to do something similar. Awesome job! |
| 21:52.30 | CowBook | man, i can't even come up with a mod that needs a tabbed interface |
| 21:52.49 | WikkiFizzle | The toughest part is to get the graphics to line up properly for the buttons and seperators |
| 21:52.50 | CowBook | i feel so inadequate |
| 21:53.03 | Noctys | WikkiFizzle: R U working on a combat log parser as well? |
| 21:53.04 | WikkiFizzle | That entire UI probably took 75% of the main development time |
| 21:53.09 | WikkiFizzle | No |
| 21:53.35 | Noctys | I think that is the only way you will be able to info on enemy targets. |
| 21:53.40 | WikkiFizzle | Ive got Aura and a cooldown pulse mod published, with a unit frame and cooldown hotbar addon in the works |
| 21:53.51 | Noctys | They like to keep all that stuff out of our reach. |
| 21:54.12 | WikkiFizzle | I can get the list of effects on a target no problem |
| 21:54.25 | WikkiFizzle | and in pve who cast what works ok |
| 21:54.34 | WikkiFizzle | pvp..doesnt seem to work |
| 21:54.47 | WikkiFizzle | though I may have found my issue |
| 21:55.26 | Noctys | You are talking about your spells being cast on something right? |
| 21:56.03 | WikkiFizzle | yes |
| 21:56.10 | WikkiFizzle | Its a logic issue |
| 21:56.23 | Noctys | OK, I was thinking backwards. |
| 21:56.27 | Noctys | You haven't found a way to see what your target is casting have you? |
| 21:56.34 | WikkiFizzle | No |
| 21:56.36 | WikkiFizzle | Not given to us |
| 21:57.52 | Noctys | That's were the combat log parser comes in... It's what I need to make. Maybe in 2012 I'll get to it |
| 21:58.06 | WikkiFizzle | Yar :P |
| 21:58.15 | WikkiFizzle | Ive got my hands full with these few addons plus work |
| 21:58.34 | WikkiFizzle | Luckily my wife is busy most nights w/ her job so I get a lot of free computer time |
| 21:59.09 | tronned | I heart Wikki. |
| 21:59.11 | CowBook | i'm glad i got the one thing i really wanted out of the way early, so i could go back to other crap, like you know, playing |
| 21:59.38 | WikkiFizzle | I hear ya there CB. I just hit 40 2 nights ago |
| 21:59.44 | WikkiFizzle | My guild has been driving me nutty to finish the grind |
| 21:59.59 | CowBook | me and the wife play casually, 2 nights a week and maybe on sunday |
| 22:00.06 | CowBook | we were full-on wow addicts |
| 22:00.15 | CowBook | and i think i spent more time writing and tweaking addons than playing |
| 22:00.19 | WikkiFizzle | My wife is still a wow-er |
| 22:00.24 | CowBook | well, wait. i did farm a shitload of elementals at 70 |
| 22:00.24 | CowBook | heh |
| 22:01.05 | CowBook | my wife has been playing a DoK up to 20, and i was playing a SH.. but when she had a few days away from the game and i got bored, i rolled a DoK to see what it was all about |
| 22:01.10 | CowBook | now i play that more than the SH |
| 22:01.19 | CowBook | i hope we won't have to fight over gear! :D |
| 22:01.29 | CowBook | heh |
| 22:01.31 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 22:01.38 | WikkiFizzle | My guild needed a resto druid in wow |
| 22:01.43 | WikkiFizzle | so thats what I had my wife roll |
| 22:01.50 | CowBook | yeah, my wife was a resto druid |
| 22:02.15 | WikkiFizzle | Was some fun times, I had a guaranteed inner on my priest when she was around |
| 22:02.20 | CowBook | had i known more, i would've suggested an easier class (and a faster-leveling class) |
| 22:02.48 | CowBook | our 70s are just sitting there, on closed accounts, for the rest of time most likely |
| 22:03.06 | WikkiFizzle | My wife wont let me sell my account |
| 22:03.13 | WikkiFizzle | She uses it from time to time |
| 22:03.23 | CowBook | before i quit wow, i sold like 10k gold |
| 22:03.26 | CowBook | it was awesome |
| 22:03.29 | CowBook | i bought a new camera lens |
| 22:03.31 | CowBook | heh |
| 22:03.35 | WikkiFizzle | Thats what I did to help buy my new comp :P |
| 22:03.52 | WikkiFizzle | here is a funny story about wow gold :P |
| 22:03.53 | CowBook | it was awesome that after 2 years of playing i managed to make all my money back |
| 22:04.27 | WikkiFizzle | Our guilds MT runs a lan center in guatemala, and most of his customers are in our guild. When they cant pay their time fees, they give him wow gold, which he turns and sells |
| 22:04.31 | CowBook | if ishealbot dies, i'll be sad. i love the simple click-casting |
| 22:04.34 | WikkiFizzle | He makes more money selling the gold than if they had paid him in cash |
| 22:04.45 | CowBook | lol |
| 22:04.50 | CowBook | guatemala |
| 22:04.59 | CowBook | is it a spanish-speaking guild? |
| 22:05.04 | WikkiFizzle | No |
| 22:05.06 | WikkiFizzle | English |
| 22:05.16 | WikkiFizzle | Ironically the MT is fluent in 2-3 dialects of chinese |
| 22:05.21 | WikkiFizzle | living there |
| 22:05.25 | WikkiFizzle | and barely knows spanish |
| 22:05.29 | CowBook | bizarre |
| 22:05.37 | WikkiFizzle | One hell of a tank though |
| 22:06.22 | CowBook | cool |
| 22:06.26 | CowBook | ever have lag issues? |
| 22:06.33 | WikkiFizzle | From time to time they did |
| 22:06.56 | WikkiFizzle | Id say once every few weeks we would have the 1 hour delay after the connection goes down and we lose half the raid |
| 22:07.37 | WikkiFizzle | It panged me to take a leave of absence for WAR, they were pushing hard on Muru at the time |
| 22:07.41 | CowBook | you know, i'm so glad i don't need to raid anymore |
| 22:07.50 | CowBook | it was like an abusive relationship |
| 22:07.53 | WikkiFizzle | lol |
| 22:07.55 | CowBook | at the time, i thought BWL loved me |
| 22:08.05 | CowBook | but after i quit wow, the healing started |
| 22:08.19 | CowBook | and realized that BWL was a nasty nasty bitch |
| 22:08.39 | CowBook | and we still never killed the end guy |
| 22:08.49 | WikkiFizzle | When BWL was the in thing, I was off moving across the US, getting married, etc |
| 22:08.52 | CowBook | some annoying dragon dude with an attitude |
| 22:08.55 | WikkiFizzle | So I never got to fully enjoy that or nax |
| 22:09.03 | CowBook | "enjoy" heh |
| 22:09.07 | WikkiFizzle | :P |
| 22:09.10 | CowBook | oh, i got to FULLY "enjoy" BWL |
| 22:09.22 | CowBook | but not before FULLY "enjoying" MC |
| 22:10.45 | WikkiFizzle | Then this summer we moved to Canada, right as Sunwell was in full swing, so we had to find a lan center up here to use till we got internet setup and stuff |
| 22:10.45 | talvinen | lua> return true and 1 or 0 |
| 22:10.45 | lua_bot | talvinen: 1 |
| 22:10.45 | CowBook | then i fully enjoyed endless LFG at 70 with my hunter |
| 22:10.45 | talvinen | lua return false and 1 or 0 |
| 22:10.46 | talvinen | lua> return false and 1 or 0 |
| 22:10.46 | lua_bot | talvinen: 0 |
| 22:11.22 | Felyza | is there a 'not' for pattern matching? |
| 22:11.56 | Felyza | like if I want to match anything BUT numbers or spaces? |
| 22:12.05 | CowBook | not mystring:match("...") |
| 22:12.21 | CowBook | use [^A-Za-z0-9 ] |
| 22:12.34 | Felyza | CowBook, don't think that'll work |
| 22:12.40 | CowBook | ^ negates the character match if used as the 1st thing in a [] |
| 22:13.13 | Felyza | I need to make [[string.find(description, 'Stellt sofort %d+ [%a%s]+ wieder her.') then]] match [[Stellt sofort <<#:20[$d Aktionspunkt/$d Aktionspunkte]>> wieder her.]] and [[Stellt sofort <<#:225[$d Lebenspunkt/$d Lebenspunkte]>> wieder her.]] |
| 22:13.14 | CowBook | what exactly are you trying to do |
| 22:13.17 | CowBook | lol |
| 22:13.34 | WikkiFizzle | you had to ask eh CB :P |
| 22:13.37 | Felyza | I thought ^ = beginning of line |
| 22:13.48 | CowBook | ^ is beginning of line used outside of [] |
| 22:14.01 | CowBook | as the 1st character inside if [] it negates the match |
| 22:14.07 | CowBook | it's overloaded |
| 22:14.18 | CowBook | so ^foo would match a string starting with foo |
| 22:14.25 | Felyza | so [%d%s]+ would match everything but numbers or spaces |
| 22:14.26 | CowBook | ^[^f] |
| 22:14.32 | CowBook | would match a string starting with not-f |
| 22:14.32 | Felyza | so [^%d%s]+ would match everything but numbers or spaces |
| 22:14.49 | CowBook | i'm not sure ig %d%s is correct there |
| 22:15.14 | Felyza | this works [[if string.find(description, 'Instantly restores %d+ [%a%s]+.') then]] |
| 22:15.32 | CowBook | but [^0-9 ]+ would match a block of one or more (numbers or spaces) |
| 22:15.36 | CowBook | sorry |
| 22:15.40 | CowBook | but [^0-9 ]+ would match a block of one or more NOT (numbers or spaces) |
| 22:16.13 | Felyza | is there a 'not' for pattern matching? ... yes .... add ^ in the [] block before pattern |
| 22:16.20 | CowBook | well |
| 22:16.27 | CowBook | [] doesn't match a pattern |
| 22:16.39 | CowBook | [] matches a character |
| 22:16.52 | CowBook | [abc] would match either a or b or c, |
| 22:17.00 | Felyza | []+ matches a bunch of characters that follow the same pattern |
| 22:17.11 | CowBook | one or more characters, yes |
| 22:17.16 | CowBook | sequentially |
| 22:17.19 | Felyza | [abc]+ would match abc, a, abcbabcba |
| 22:17.25 | CowBook | correct |
| 22:17.39 | Felyza | that's what i'm looking for, sorry if it didn't come across right |
| 22:17.42 | CowBook | no problem |
| 22:17.59 | Felyza | sigh, german has to use such funky characters |
| 22:18.02 | CowBook | heh |
| 22:18.22 | Felyza | En = [[Instantly restores 20 Action Points.]] De = [[Stellt sofort <<#:20[$d Aktionspunkt/$d Aktionspunkte]>> wieder her.]] |
| 22:18.28 | CowBook | ^ anchors to the beginning, $ to the end. * is 0 or more, + is 1 or more, ? is 0 or 1 |
| 22:18.38 | CowBook | << ? |
| 22:18.56 | CowBook | bizarre |
| 22:20.04 | CowBook | also felyza, keep in mind that [abc]+ would return true for abcd, it would just only match the first 3 letters |
| 22:20.23 | CowBook | if you had ^[abc]+$ it would not return true |
| 22:20.29 | Felyza | i only use %d, %s, %a, etc |
| 22:20.33 | CowBook | ok |
| 22:21.02 | CowBook | ok |
| 22:21.04 | CowBook | oops |
| 22:21.17 | CowBook | i know general regexp, but not lua-specific variations |
| 22:23.54 | Felyza | description = [[Stellt sofort <<#:20[$d Aktionspunkt/$d Aktionspunkte]>> wieder her.]] if (string.find(description, 'Stellt sofort [^%d]+%d+[^%d]+ wieder her.')) then print("Found") else print ("Not Found") end |
| 22:23.57 | Felyza | lua> description = [[Stellt sofort <<#:20[$d Aktionspunkt/$d Aktionspunkte]>> wieder her.]] if (string.find(description, 'Stellt sofort [^%d]+%d+[^%d]+ wieder her.')) then print("Found") else print ("Not Found") end |
| 22:23.58 | lua_bot | Felyza: Found |
| 22:24.43 | Felyza | lua> description = [[Heilt <<#:4[$d Sekunde/$d Sekunden]>> lang alle <<#:2[$d Sekunde/$d Sekunden]>> für 50.]>> wieder her.]] if (string.find(description, 'Stellt sofort [^%d]+%d+[^%d]+ wieder her.')) then print("Found") else print ("Not Found") end |
| 22:24.44 | lua_bot | Felyza: Not Found |
| 22:25.10 | Felyza | lua> description = [[Stellt sofort <<#:675[$d Lebenspunkt/$d Lebenspunkte]>> wieder her.]] if (string.find(description, 'Stellt sofort [^%d]+%d+[^%d]+ wieder her.')) then print("Found") else print ("Not Found") end |
| 22:25.11 | lua_bot | Felyza: Found |
| 22:30.57 | talvinen | lua> return tonumber("") |
| 22:30.57 | lua_bot | talvinen: nil |
| 22:31.04 | CowBook | lua> if "foo":match("^a") then print "1" |
| 22:31.04 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: 'then' expected near ':' |
| 22:31.08 | CowBook | lua> if "foo":match("^a") then print "1" end |
| 22:31.08 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: 'then' expected near ':' |
| 22:31.20 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo if a:match("^a") then print "1" end |
| 22:31.20 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 22:31.45 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo" if a:match("^a") then print "1" end |
| 22:31.45 | lua_bot | CowBook: No output |
| 22:31.49 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo" if a:match("^f") then print "1" end |
| 22:31.49 | lua_bot | CowBook: 1 |
| 22:32.12 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar" if a:match("[0-9]+/[0-9]+") then print "1" end |
| 22:32.12 | lua_bot | CowBook: 1 |
| 22:32.55 | Felyza | CowBook, its working in tests, so thanks =) back to work on localization proofing |
| 22:33.00 | chrixian | it's not uncommon to only be able to write a pattern that will match a little more than you oneed and then ignore the match if its a false positive.. |
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| 22:33.18 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar" b, c = a:match("[0-9]+/[0-9]+") if b then print b..", "..c end |
| 22:33.18 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'b' |
| 22:33.43 | Felyza | here's what I'm using for the one... Stellt sofort [^%d]+%d+[^%d]+ wieder her.... the next is Heilt[^%d]+%d+[^%d]+ekund[^%d]+lang alle[^%d]+%d+[^%d]+%d+. |
| 22:33.44 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar" b, c = a:match("([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)") if b then print b..", "..c end |
| 22:33.44 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'b' |
| 22:33.52 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar" local b, c = a:match("([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)") if b then print b..", "..c end |
| 22:33.52 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'b' |
| 22:33.55 | CowBook | o well |
| 22:34.59 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar"; b, c = a:match("([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)") if b then print b..", "..c end |
| 22:35.00 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'b' |
| 22:35.15 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar" b = a:match("([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)") if b then print b end |
| 22:35.16 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'b' |
| 22:36.43 | CowBook | lua> a, b = 1,2 |
| 22:36.43 | lua_bot | CowBook: No output |
| 22:36.49 | CowBook | lua> a, b = 1,2 print a |
| 22:36.49 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'a' |
| 22:37.15 | CowBook | lua> a, b = "x","y" print a |
| 22:37.16 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'a' |
| 22:37.32 | CowBook | there are many things in lua i don't understand |
| 22:37.50 | CowBook | fortunately, i don't have to use it at work! |
| 22:37.58 | Felyza | CowBook, you forgetting the () around the a in print |
| 22:38.08 | CowBook | lua> a, b = "x","y" print(a) |
| 22:38.08 | lua_bot | CowBook: x |
| 22:38.14 | CowBook | interesting |
| 22:38.27 | CowBook | lua> a = "foo 123/456 bar"; b, c = a:match("([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)") if b then print(b..", "..c) end |
| 22:38.28 | lua_bot | CowBook: 123, 456 |
| 22:38.31 | CowBook | gotcha |
| 22:38.42 | CowBook | so.. that's a simple regex match |
| 22:38.50 | CowBook | :P |
| 22:39.23 | Felyza | CowBook, i'm sending a private query (so i don't spam channel) with my 'strip numbers' function |
| 22:39.56 | Felyza | like? |
| 22:42.05 | CowBook | lua> str = "Heals for 50 every 2 seconds, for 6 seconds" a,b,c = str:match("([0-9]+).*([0-9]+).*([0-9]+)") print(a..","..b..","..c) |
| 22:42.06 | lua_bot | CowBook: 50,2,6 |
| 22:42.11 | CowBook | :P |
| 22:43.05 | CowBook | lua> str = "Heals for 50 every 2 seconds, for N seconds" a,b,c = str:match("([0-9]+).*([0-9]+).*([0-9]+)") print((a or "X")..","..(b or "X")..","..(c or "X")) |
| 22:43.06 | lua_bot | CowBook: 5,0,2 |
| 22:43.16 | CowBook | hmmn |
| 22:43.22 | CowBook | lua> str = "Heals for 50 every 2 seconds, for N seconds" a,b,c = str:match("([0-9]+).*?([0-9]+).*?([0-9]+)") print((a or "X")..","..(b or "X")..","..(c or "X")) |
| 22:43.23 | lua_bot | CowBook: X,X,X |
| 22:43.47 | CowBook | lua> str = "Heals for 50 every 2 seconds, for N seconds" a,b,c = str:match("([0-9]+)[^0-9]+([0-9]+)[^0-9]+([0-9]+)") print((a or "X")..","..(b or "X")..","..(c or "X")) |
| 22:43.47 | lua_bot | CowBook: X,X,X |
| 22:43.57 | CowBook | n/m |
| 22:44.09 | CowBook | not sure how lua handles greed in regex |
| 22:44.16 | talvinen | lua> return tonumber("") |
| 22:44.16 | lua_bot | talvinen: nil |
| 22:44.19 | talvinen | hrm |
| 22:44.52 | CowBook | lua> str="aaab" print(str:match("([a]*)b")) |
| 22:44.52 | lua_bot | CowBook: aaa |
| 22:44.58 | CowBook | lua> str="aaab" print(str:match("([a]*)ab")) |
| 22:44.58 | lua_bot | CowBook: aa |
| 22:46.13 | CowBook | lua> str="abbabba" print(str:match("(a.*a)")) |
| 22:46.14 | lua_bot | CowBook: abbabba |
| 22:46.17 | CowBook | lua> str="abbabba" print(str:match("(a.*?a)")) |
| 22:46.17 | lua_bot | CowBook: nil |
| 22:46.43 | CowBook | hrmn |
| 22:46.50 | CowBook | lua match is greedy |
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| 22:48.05 | CowBook | lua> str="abbabba" print(str:match("(a[^a]+a)")) |
| 22:48.05 | lua_bot | CowBook: abba |
| 22:48.28 | talvinen | head@desk |
| 22:48.46 | CowBook | lua> str = "Heals for 50 every 2 seconds, for 6 seconds" a,b,c = str:match("([0-9]+)[^0-9]+([0-9]+)[^0-9]+([0-9]+)") print((a or "X")..","..(b or "X")..","..(c or "X")) |
| 22:48.46 | lua_bot | CowBook: 50,2,6 |
| 22:48.46 | talvinen | tonumber("") returns nil, but when "" is a wstring, you get 0 ~.~ |
| 22:49.14 | CowBook | lua> str = "Heals for 50 every 2 seconds, for X seconds" a,b,c = str:match("([0-9]+)[^0-9]+([0-9]+)[^0-9]+([0-9]+)") print((a or "X")..","..(b or "X")..","..(c or "X")) |
| 22:49.15 | lua_bot | CowBook: X,X,X |
| 22:49.25 | CowBook | right, well, hmmn |
| 22:49.38 | CowBook | regex works great if you know how many numbers to expect |
| 22:49.45 | Aii | phew, this morning has been busy o.o |
| 22:50.05 | talvinen | Good 'Whatever time you have', Aii. |
| 22:50.23 | CowBook | lua> print tonumber("") |
| 22:50.24 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'tonumber' |
| 22:50.28 | CowBook | lua> print(tonumber("")) |
| 22:50.29 | lua_bot | CowBook: nil |
| 22:50.33 | CowBook | lua> print(tonumber(L"")) |
| 22:50.33 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'L' (a nil value) |
| 22:50.47 | Aii | its 2:50pm |
| 22:50.49 | Aii | here |
| 22:50.56 | CowBook | lua> print(tonumber(towstring(""))) |
| 22:50.56 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'towstring' (a nil value) |
| 22:51.05 | Felyza | Aii, after another complete rewrite, I finally got my timers and stacks working, and the whole bar is drawn yet a different way now. |
| 22:51.10 | CowBook | lua> print(tonumber(L(""))) |
| 22:51.11 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'L' (a nil value) |
| 22:51.21 | CowBook | h8 wstrings |
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| 22:51.27 | `Zypher | Felyza: grats? |
| 22:51.38 | talvinen | Aii: I want to report a bug with LibGUI :) |
| 22:51.39 | Aii | tonumber() gives 0 for a wstring with no number in it |
| 22:51.41 | CowBook | Felyza: 97th time is the charm |
| 22:51.50 | Aii | (annoyingly, CowBook ) |
| 22:52.03 | Aii | talvinen: shoot, preferably in PM so it doesn't get mixed up with channel stuff |
| 22:52.21 | Daegalus | what i miss? |
| 22:52.38 | CowBook | lua> print(L("")) |
| 22:52.38 | lua_bot | CowBook: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'L' (a nil value) |
| 22:52.50 | CowBook | can the bot handle wstrings? |
| 22:53.21 | Felyza | lua> print(StringToWString"test") |
| 22:53.21 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'StringToWString' (a nil value) |
| 22:53.31 | Felyza | lua> print(L"test") |
| 22:53.32 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'L' (a nil value) |
| 22:53.42 | Felyza | lua> print(StringToWString("test")) |
| 22:53.42 | lua_bot | Felyza: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'StringToWString' (a nil value) |
| 22:54.54 | CowBook | talvinen: maybe you can do something like: yournumber = yourwstring:match(L"^[0-9.-]$") and tonumber(yourwstring) or nil |
| 22:55.16 | CowBook | i dunno |
| 22:55.25 | talvinen | i simply use tonumber(WStringToString(str)) |
| 22:55.59 | Daegalus | w00t drugs! |
| 22:56.28 | talvinen | Aii: Love LibGUI so far. Any chance to have TintColor in it? e.g. with a standard Object that uses tint_square as texture? |
| 22:57.54 | Felyza | talvinen, here, its REALLY simple to use WindowSetTintColor(windowName, r, g, b) |
| 22:58.42 | Felyza | talvinen, while you're at it... WindowSetAlpha(windowName, alpha) --alpha = 0.0 to 1.0 |
| 22:58.42 | Aii | talvinen: first I need to find a default UI object that I can use as a base template for that |
| 22:58.45 | talvinen | yes, but currently there is no function to get the windowName of a LibGUI-Object |
| 22:58.51 | Aii | talvinen: yes there is |
| 22:58.55 | Aii | MyObject.name |
| 22:58.55 | talvinen | oh? |
| 22:58.58 | talvinen | hmk |
| 22:59.08 | Felyza | EA_FullResizeImage_TintableSolidBackground |
| 22:59.23 | Felyza | I use it in autobar |
| 22:59.30 | Aii | Felyza: pm it to aiiane please, so I have it handy when i get home |
| 23:00.04 | Felyza | Aii, you really should see how my new autobar version works for tinting and alpha blending the cooldown overlay |
| 23:00.41 | Felyza | I set the cooldown overlay color to 80% red overlay, and scale down to 30% red as the timer gets nearer to completion |
| 23:01.26 | talvinen | Felyza: tell me when it's done. I have no use for it, but it might look pretty *g* |
| 23:01.39 | Aii | Felyza: what about it? |
| 23:01.50 | Felyza | talvinen, its in 2.2 release |
| 23:02.33 | Felyza | Aii, make a child window of whatever you want to tint, make it <FullResizeImage name="$parentOverlay" inherits="EA_FullResizeImage_TintableSolidBackground" layer="secondary" handleinput="false"> |
| 23:02.44 | Felyza | set anchor to topleft/topleft bottomright/bottomright |
| 23:02.46 | talvinen | I have a problem with my debug window. After each /reload, I get the standard bunch of warnings, errors and debug messages, but then it suddenly stops to work (not all debug messages are shown at startup). It says Logs (On), but I have do disable and enable it again to make debug messages work again |
| 23:02.58 | talvinen | could this be a sideeffect of NoCombatLog, which I installed today? |
| 23:03.00 | Felyza | Then just use the set tint and set alpha functions on it |
| 23:03.09 | Aii | talvinen: yes; nocombatlog also turns off the uilog |
| 23:03.15 | Aii | because if left on it'll cause the same issue |
| 23:03.28 | Aii | turn it on when you want to use it, and back off when you don't need it |
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| 23:03.38 | talvinen | mhm mhm |
| 23:03.38 | Felyza | Aii, want that info in pm? |
| 23:03.47 | Aii | or if you need to troubleshoot startup stuff, disable nocombatlog temporarily |
| 23:04.02 | Aii | Felyza: no, I'm asking what's special about it? |
| 23:04.31 | Felyza | That creates a tintable overlay over anything, so you can adjust tint of anything, even if its something not normally tintable, like an icon |
| 23:04.47 | Felyza | Or a button, or normal window, etc |
| 23:04.56 | Aii | yes, im aware of this |
| 23:05.15 | `Zypher | ~wdn |
| 23:05.16 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 23:05.31 | Felyza | Was trying to offer an easy way to fulfill <talvinen> Aii: Love LibGUI so far. Any chance to have TintColor in it? e.g. with a standard Object that uses tint_square as texture? |
| 23:06.24 | Aii | I don't think that was exactly what talvinen was asking for, Felyza :) |
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| 23:06.36 | Felyza | I took it as they want to tint stuff |
| 23:06.38 | Aii | I think he was just asking for an object that could be used to display blocks of color |
| 23:07.01 | Felyza | using this, you could easily make blocks of color by setting tint to a color, and alpha to 1 |
| 23:07.09 | Aii | yes, I'm aware of that Felyza |
| 23:07.27 | Felyza | sigh, just trying to help |
| 23:07.44 | talvinen | Hmm.. I might be able to use that |
| 23:07.51 | Felyza | was trying to give the things to you to save you looking up stuff |
| 23:08.10 | Aii | all I needed was an object name, Felyza |
| 23:08.11 | Felyza | since i did all the lookup today, to get my thing working |
| 23:08.18 | Aii | I didn't need an explanation of how to tint things :) |
| 23:08.53 | Felyza | well blah |
| 23:09.06 | Aii | but thank you for the object name ;) |
| 23:09.22 | Aii | and I would be thankful if you could pm that template name to aiiane :P |
| 23:09.30 | Felyza | on the upside, i FINALLY figured out why i was getting Root when mousing over things |
| 23:10.19 | Felyza | if child objects go outside the bounds of the parent object, they 'don't count' for mouseover |
| 23:10.45 | Felyza | even if the child object is set to handleinput and the parent isn't |
| 23:11.13 | Aii | yes |
| 23:11.20 | talvinen | *nods wisely* ;) |
| 23:11.23 | Aii | I could have told you that if I knew that's what you were doing :s |
| 23:11.37 | Felyza | one day i'll learn how to ask right |
| 23:11.37 | Aii | input is handled via a hierarchial tree |
| 23:11.48 | PenguinOfDoom | hey look, PWF got nerfed and BWs got moar damage |
| 23:11.53 | Aii | input events only get passed down to children of a window if they're in the bounding box of the parent |
| 23:12.02 | Felyza | yep, didn't know this |
| 23:12.07 | Felyza | works now |
| 23:14.05 | Felyza | back to making autobar german friendly, then to french and italian |
| 23:15.00 | Aii | Rampaging Siphon: Morale should now heal the group for each target hit, instead of only once. |
| 23:15.05 | Aii | ^ might actually be worth using now |
| 23:15.32 | Felyza | well poo |
| 23:16.55 | Aii | Hurried Restore: This tactic will now stun the caster when the resurrection spell is cast, instead of when it is accepted. |
| 23:16.55 | Aii | ^ thank god, that was getting annoying |
| 23:16.55 | Felyza | will curse handle "Stärke" in a file? |
| 23:16.55 | Aii | Felyza: makeit a ucs-2 file and I don't see why not |
| 23:16.56 | Felyza | figures one of the required keywords uses special characters |
| 23:17.04 | Aii | Lambent Aura: Duration has been increased to 24 seconds, amount healed over this duration remains the same. |
| 23:17.11 | Aii | ^ bleh, i want my hots to tick faster, not slower |
| 23:17.21 | talvinen | That is a nerf to every healer class |
| 23:17.29 | talvinen | among with the coefficient-nerf to our hybrid hot |
| 23:17.55 | talvinen | but at least all career's damage was buffed =/ |
| 23:18.04 | PenguinOfDoom | yeah, archmages got megaboned |
| 23:18.23 | PenguinOfDoom | while RPs/zealots got boned to a smaller degree |
| 23:18.32 | Felyza | OOOOO Root effects, with the exception of morale roots, will now grant a 5 second immunity from all roots to the victim when the effect breaks, and in addition will no longer stack with other roots. -> bigf nerf to Order in general (most roots didn't trigger it) |
| 23:19.08 | Aii | ....fail, they made scorched earth and the sorceress equivalent have the "intended" 5sec cooldown |
| 23:19.09 | PenguinOfDoom | uh what? |
| 23:19.13 | PenguinOfDoom | order doesn't have more roots than destro |
| 23:19.14 | Aii | so much for easy building of mechanic |
| 23:19.35 | PenguinOfDoom | Aii: On the other hand, MOAR DPS |
| 23:19.38 | Aii | and no Felyza... the number of roots in general is about equal |
| 23:19.44 | PenguinOfDoom | and I can actually use an endgame spec before renown rank 40 |
| 23:19.44 | Felyza | PenguinOfDoom, that wasn't what I said. I said that most of their roots didn't cause immune. Destruction's did. |
| 23:19.52 | PenguinOfDoom | oh? |
| 23:19.55 | PenguinOfDoom | Interesting |
| 23:20.16 | Felyza | I have characters on both sides of the fence, on different servers, and abused the hell out of that. |
| 23:20.19 | PenguinOfDoom | also, I bet squig herder is going to be epic now |
| 23:20.21 | PenguinOfDoom | :( |
| 23:20.29 | PenguinOfDoom | green douchebags are nasty already |
| 23:21.25 | Aii | why are they nerfing HoTs, while at the same time buffing BW/Sorc dots? |
| 23:21.45 | PenguinOfDoom | because mythic loves order |
| 23:21.49 | Aii | um |
| 23:21.52 | Aii | im an archmage |
| 23:21.52 | PenguinOfDoom | and wants us all to pick BWs |
| 23:21.58 | Aii | and i hate them nerfing hots |
| 23:22.01 | PenguinOfDoom | yeah, why don't you reroll |
| 23:22.05 | Aii | no thanks |
| 23:22.21 | PenguinOfDoom | best scenario team: two WPs, 10 BWs |
| 23:22.29 | PenguinOfDoom | do you see any archmages on that list? do you?! |
| 23:22.32 | Felyza | oh wow, MUCH love for my magus |
| 23:23.04 | talvinen | I wonder if Do Sumfin Useful will get nerfed too |
| 23:23.26 | talvinen | It isn't on the list, yet it's our best scaling HoT.. while looking at all the hot hate.. |
| 23:24.55 | Aii | heh, i can see the QQ now... fetch hasn't been changed |
| 23:25.22 | Felyza | WOW... almost every magus dot has "The amount that stats contribute to the damage of this ability has been increased to make it consistent with other damage over time abilities." |
| 23:25.30 | talvinen | guess what.. |
| 23:25.37 | talvinen | every BW Dot has the same line ;) |
| 23:25.43 | talvinen | yes, "increased" |
| 23:25.53 | talvinen | except one, of course |
| 23:26.03 | Felyza | talvinen, int was SO pointless on my magus I went straight HP/Toughness |
| 23:26.19 | Felyza | 7khp, 1200armor, 300 toughness in cloth |
| 23:26.34 | Aii | the question is, how /much/ increased |
| 23:26.46 | Aii | I can put on an almost purely int set on my archmage |
| 23:26.46 | talvinen | your only role was standing next to lava and using chaotic rift, anyway |
| 23:26.55 | Aii | and my dots are still rediculously weak compared to BW/Sorc |
| 23:27.09 | PenguinOfDoom | Aii: that's mostly combustion |
| 23:27.13 | talvinen | Aii: But you can make them 25% more effective when healing! |
| 23:27.33 | Felyza | talvinen, it triggered immune, so no, I did it where we had a group to prevent running, so we could aoe everyone I grabbed |
| 23:28.00 | talvinen | hmm |
| 23:28.14 | talvinen | saw an Engineer that did this all day long |
| 23:28.27 | talvinen | combine with an AE Knockback = pure win |
| 23:28.32 | talvinen | never died that often |
| 23:28.32 | Felyza | oh yes, Engineers could, their electromagnet did NOT trigger immune |
| 23:28.36 | PenguinOfDoom | also, lol at not having wards reducing your damage against lords |
| 23:28.41 | Aii | PenguinOfDoom: no, im talking base damage w/o any combustion |
| 23:28.49 | Felyza | chaotic rift DOES, electromagnet does NOT |
| 23:29.00 | PenguinOfDoom | Aii: oh, I guess archmage is a comedy class, then |
| 23:29.03 | PenguinOfDoom | SORRY TO HEAR THAT |
| 23:29.12 | Felyza | again, i play on both sides of the fence, and abused the hell out of that |
| 23:29.31 | Aii | PenguinOfDoom: no, i just spec healbot with ranged mortal strike and /popcorn @ destro |
| 23:29.42 | Felyza | Non-humanoid monsters will no longer hit for 50%+ of players health on critical hits. |
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| 23:31.16 | chrixian | an archmage isn't supposed to be the same as a bw .. |
| 23:32.25 | Aii | chrixian: sure... but an archmage that specs and gears for damage should at least be somewhere in the ballpark of /base/ damage |
| 23:32.31 | PenguinOfDoom | It's not supposed to be about as terrible as a battle rune priest |
| 23:32.35 | Aii | maybe not compared to a BW with combustion |
| 23:32.44 | Aii | but they should at least be able to solo mobs decently |
| 23:32.57 | Aii | as it is, i pretty much don't really bother with solo questing |
| 23:33.07 | PenguinOfDoom | urgh solo PVE |
| 23:33.13 | PenguinOfDoom | I don't know how non-BWs manage it |
| 23:33.32 | PenguinOfDoom | takes forever to kill NPCs with any other class |
| 23:33.52 | Aii | idk, most dps classes go through mobs pretty efficiently |
| 23:33.55 | Aii | WPs/DoKs too |
| 23:34.18 | Felyza | well, i can't wait for the changes to hit my magus... my magus can already solo kill 6 yellow-con mobs at once |
| 23:34.48 | Aii | yeah... my AM can do maybe 2, max |
| 23:34.49 | chrixian | i suppose it isn't unreasonable to want to be in the ballpark but i would still expect an archmage, as a support class, even with spec and gear to be well short of a pure dps class .. |
| 23:35.19 | Felyza | my favorite group is magus, shaman, squig herder... squig herder getches, shaman keeps me alive, and i kill... usually 10 to 30 yellow con mobs at once |
| 23:36.06 | PenguinOfDoom | does that make for hilariously fast levelling? |
| 23:36.32 | Felyza | not really, it comes down to a matter of waiting for respawns |
| 23:36.42 | chrixian | don't get me wrong aii, i play an archmage and a runepriest, i would love if my archmage could spec and be a poormans BW =D |
| 23:36.56 | Felyza | we kill everything in sight, chat for a few minutes, kill everything in sight, chat for a few minutes |
| 23:37.50 | Aii | chrixian: basically,I just find it sad that i can't even come close to the base damage of a dps class if i sacrifice all non-dps gear stats /and/ have the +25%dps/-20% healing tactic on |
| 23:38.05 | Aii | since I'm effectively nerfing my healing abilities tremendously |
| 23:38.23 | chrixian | but you still -can- heal ... where as a dps class cannot |
| 23:38.43 | Aii | yes, which is why im not expecting combustion damage numbers |
| 23:38.53 | Aii | a dps class -can- have combustion, whereas I can't |
| 23:38.54 | Felyza | Aii, if you mean a naked dps class, then I agree, it needs bumped up. |
| 23:39.15 | chrixian | combustion increases crit chance i thought? does it increase non crit dmg as well? |
| 23:39.18 | Aii | and I don't have nearly as many CC abilities as a dps class, chrixian |
| 23:39.55 | Aii | in fact, I have exactly -one- CC ability |
| 23:40.02 | Aii | it's a conal knockback, with a 60 second cooldown |
| 23:40.14 | Aii | basically, a morale ability by another name |
| 23:40.21 | chrixian | i understand what you're sayin, and i agree, a bit more dmg output when spec'ed for it would be nice ... but i'd go as far as to say that maybe a tactic that gave you that boost would cause you to not be able to heal at all |
| 23:40.37 | Aii | why though, chrixian ? |
| 23:40.49 | Aii | then it precisely /would/ be a poor man's BW, and there'd be no point to using it |
| 23:40.52 | chrixian | because why should you be on par with a Bw -and- able to heal yourself |
| 23:40.57 | Felyza | Aii, what is "UCS-2", my editor has the options ANSI, DOS, UTF-8, Unicode, and Unicode (Big Endian) |
| 23:40.59 | Aii | but you're not |
| 23:41.09 | Aii | you *don't* have combustion, you *don't* have a BW's CC |
| 23:41.30 | chrixian | UCS-2 is what was used before UTF-16 |
| 23:41.31 | Aii | and a large part of a BW's dps comes from combustion crits |
| 23:41.46 | shockbeta|work | This is offtopic, but is anyone good with flash? |
| 23:42.21 | chrixian | if its an actionscript question i can maybe help, but if its a flash designer question probably not |
| 23:42.50 | shockbeta|work | It's a theme question |
| 23:42.54 | Felyza | Aii, which should I try? |
| 23:43.01 | shockbeta|work | http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/9.0/main/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Parts&file=00002477.html |
| 23:43.13 | `Zypher | ok |
| 23:43.14 | Aii | you can try unicode Felyza but im not sure if WAR will load it |
| 23:43.18 | chrixian | use unicode |
| 23:43.23 | `Zypher | so someone explain to me how to go about resizing statusbars |
| 23:43.24 | shockbeta|work | Tried that, it doesn't work as expected... so I'm either missing something(done the tut over 20 times now) or they left a vital piece out |
| 23:43.37 | Aii | I was experimenting with different formats, and WAR didn't appear to like UTF-16 |
| 23:44.07 | Felyza | any idea what the difference between Unicode and Unicode (Big Endian) is? |
| 23:44.24 | Aii | endianess |
| 23:44.30 | Aii | default is little endian |
| 23:44.42 | `Zypher | someone how, would I go about taking a simple tag like |
| 23:44.59 | `Zypher | <StatusBar inherits="EA_StausBar_DefaultTintable" /> |
| 23:45.01 | `Zypher | and resize that |
| 23:45.10 | `Zypher | because when I use WindowSetDimensions |
| 23:45.15 | `Zypher | it just shows more of the texture |
| 23:45.54 | Aii | status bars are horizontally resizable |
| 23:45.57 | Aii | but not vertically |
| 23:46.19 | Aii | (or more specifically, the texture is auto-resized for horizontal, but not vertical) |
| 23:46.26 | `Zypher | so |
| 23:46.33 | talvinen | Aii: I heard it would be possible to simply copy your Libs into my own Addon-Folder and distribute that - because it will always load the latest version of the Lib. Is this correct? |
| 23:46.33 | `Zypher | how do I increase it's verticle dimensions |
| 23:47.07 | `Zypher | other then texturescale |
| 23:47.11 | `Zypher | because I don't want to use that |
| 23:47.47 | Aii | talvinen: for LibGUI, yes |
| 23:48.07 | Aii | LibSlash is an exception because it uses a .mod file |
| 23:48.24 | Aii | don't embed libslash; you can embed libgui just fine though |
| 23:49.05 | `Zypher | Aii: any ideas? |
| 23:49.56 | Aii | `Zypher: you find a different texture? |
| 23:50.25 | `Zypher | Aii: that doesn't work |
| 23:50.38 | `Zypher | I want to be able to dynamically change the sizes |
| 23:50.47 | `Zypher | :( |
| 23:50.53 | Aii | find a texture that's big enough for the largest size you want |
| 23:50.58 | Aii | showing /less/ of it shouldn't hurt |
| 23:51.13 | `Zypher | it makes my soal cry |
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| 23:52.17 | Aii | so build your own statusbar out of tintable fullresizeimages :P |
| 23:52.37 | talvinen | couldn't you increase the size of the texture using SetTextureDimensions()? |
| 23:53.32 | talvinen | I know this is a dumb question because if you could, you would no longer search for a bigger texture ;) |
| 23:54.13 | Aii | do we know the names for the windows within a statusbar? im not sure we do |
| 23:54.25 | chrixian | if the window your inheriting ("EA_StausBar_DefaultTintable" whatever that is) is created like a statusbar normally would and has horizontal resizing taken care of, why wouldn't you just allow it to resize as needed by setting its anchors |
| 23:54.46 | `Zypher | interesting |
| 23:54.49 | `Zypher | ima try this |
| 23:55.11 | chrixian | what is EA_StausBar_DefaultTintable tho? i don't find that anywhere |
| 23:55.30 | `Zypher | EA_StausBar_DefaultTintableBar |
| 23:55.31 | `Zypher | lol |
| 23:55.36 | Aii | it's a statusbar, chrixian . |
| 23:56.05 | chrixian | ah EA_StausBar_DefaultTintableBar got it |
| 23:56.51 | Felyza | almost done |
| 23:58.09 | chrixian | so ya if you inherit from EA_StausBar_DefaultTintable and then use WindowAddAnchor to anchor the bottom corners it'll resize for you |
| 23:58.09 | `Zypher | haha |
| 23:58.09 | `Zypher | don't reloadui if you died |
| 23:58.09 | `Zypher | i lost the release box |
| 23:58.09 | `Zypher | lol |
| 23:58.18 | chrixian | haha |
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| 23:59.24 | Aii | `Zypher: I think it's called DeathWindow |
| 23:59.29 | Aii | you can probably windowsetshowing it |
| 23:59.55 | Aii | anywho, back in a few |
| 23:59.56 | `Zypher | ill release eventually :P |
