| 00:00.09 | Fal` | do those changes apply to the WAR curse client? |
| 00:00.19 | netcurse | yes |
| 00:00.28 | netcurse | it's the same client :) |
| 00:00.51 | Fal` | i thought so |
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| 00:32.32 | Repo | 10chatmacros: 03Aiiane * r1 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added tag 1.0 for changeset 2c948b9e5295 |
| 00:32.34 | Repo | Initial commit, provides an easier way to make macros with dynamic chat text. |
| 00:33.03 | Fal` | can someone look at this link and tell me if it works? |
| 00:33.03 | Fal` | http://www.flickr.com/photos/31782274@N07/sets/72157608393637442/ |
| 00:33.11 | Fal` | and what you think about my interface if it does |
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| 00:35.22 | Aiiane | the link works yes |
| 00:36.18 | Aiiane | feels a little lopsided to the left, but other than that it's not bad |
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| 00:39.53 | Fal` | that is mostly cause of the radar |
| 00:40.27 | Fal` | but I do have the kill list in the top left to offset that |
| 00:40.59 | Fal` | but Aiiane, I'm updloading a screenshot of my namelength problem |
| 00:41.03 | Aiiane | ah, not really visible in the screenie |
| 00:41.04 | Aiiane | kk Fal` |
| 00:41.19 | Fal` | well, it's like 6 shots |
| 00:41.23 | Fal` | you can look at all of them |
| 00:43.36 | Fal` | Aiiane, http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7631/falfiref007bd6.jpg |
| 00:43.46 | Fal` | look at the guy's name in squared |
| 00:44.21 | Aiiane | I'd suggest setting namelength to something shorter |
| 00:44.35 | Aiiane | unless you absolutely, positively need to see full names |
| 00:44.50 | Aiiane | namelength is just the number of characters it tries to show |
| 00:45.00 | Aiiane | i.e. if it's set to 5, it'll only show the first 5 characters of any given name, etc |
| 00:58.08 | Aiiane | does that work for you Fal`? If you think there was something else I'm willing to keep looking into it |
| 01:12.50 | Fal` | that works |
| 01:13.20 | Fal` | but sometimes you can't figure out who it is |
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| 01:21.03 | Aiiane | when I run into that I usually just target them and look at the target frame |
| 01:21.06 | Aiiane | but that's not very often |
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| 02:40.51 | thanners | hmmm.. |
| 02:54.08 | Geneshift | Aiiane, could try leaving out vowels. |
| 02:54.26 | Aiiane | eh. that's more confusing than truncating |
| 02:54.43 | Aiiane | and not guaranteed to help for every name |
| 02:55.10 | Geneshift | True, but there was that study that showed that most people can read 95% of words without vowels. |
| 02:55.22 | Geneshift | like in a sentence. |
| 02:56.24 | Aiiane | yes, but the issue here is that we need to make sure that strings are no longer than X characters long (because X is the most that will fit) |
| 02:56.33 | Aiiane | omitting vowels doesn't really do that |
| 02:56.58 | Aiiane | also keep in mind that not all names are words :) |
| 02:57.07 | Aiiane | for instance, try reading my name without vowels :) |
| 02:57.31 | Geneshift | hehe point taken. |
| 03:06.12 | Repo | 10moth: 03Astika * r28 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 03:06.13 | Repo | added health percentage to available label text types |
| 03:06.17 | Repo | reorganized Moth.UpdateTarget logic to more effectively parse mouseovertarget events |
| 03:06.24 | Repo | fixed a bug (possibly) where the default MouseOverTargetWindow and/or DefaultTooltip were showing on mouseovertarget |
| 03:06.32 | Repo | * note: i have yet to reproduce this bug, even on clean install + UserSettings/AllCharacters |
| 03:06.38 | Repo | 10moth: 03Astika 041.05 * r29 : Tagging as 1.05. |
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| 03:11.05 | Wizpig | Hello everyone |
| 03:11.55 | Aiiane | hi |
| 03:12.02 | tronned | hi2u |
| 03:12.11 | Wizpig | Is it possible to fire an event when a new value on a combobox is selected? |
| 03:12.25 | Wizpig | I just cant figure it out |
| 03:13.03 | Wizpig | like how sliders you use :<EventHandler event="OnSlide" function="function" /> |
| 03:13.22 | Wizpig | is there an even for combobox's for OnNewValueSelected |
| 03:13.33 | Wizpig | (obviously not that literally) |
| 03:13.41 | Repo | 10moth: 03Astika * r30 MothSettings.lua: disabling Health text by default, my bad |
| 03:14.48 | Repo | 10moth: 03Astika 041.051 * r31 : Tagging as 1.051. |
| 03:16.10 | Wizpig | any ideas? I have no idea where I would go about finding the events related to combo-boxes |
| 03:18.26 | Aiiane | hm |
| 03:19.35 | Aiiane | <EventHandler event="OnSelChanged" function="CreateAuctionWindow.OnRestrictionTypeChanged" /> |
| 03:19.43 | Wizpig | ah there it is |
| 03:19.44 | Aiiane | from the default UI |
| 03:19.53 | Wizpig | I couldnt find any default that used it, thanks =] |
| 03:22.14 | Wizpig | yup, worked like a charm, thanks aiiane |
| 03:30.46 | Repo | 10squared: 03Aiiane * r68 / (6 files in 3 directories): Added tag 2.4.2 for changeset 505dac74112f |
| 03:30.47 | Repo | CHANGED: SquaredBuffIndicator's filtering for debuffs should now work properly - if "status-debuff-selfonly" is true, then you will only see indicators for debuffs you can dispel. |
| 03:30.57 | Repo | ADDED: SquaredRangeScan module. This module allows you to make a macro that will update the rangefading status of all squares when pressed. Note that this will result in a noticeable flickering of square borders and target buffs during the second or so it takes to accurately scan most warband-sized groups. |
| 04:30.39 | `Zypher | I be back |
| 04:31.15 | `Zypher | riverside = suck |
| 04:31.59 | `Zypher | ~_~ |
| 04:32.00 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 04:32.06 | `Zypher | is anyone out there? |
| 04:32.09 | `Zypher | ~poke purl |
| 04:32.09 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 04:33.37 | `Zypher | I need attention :( |
| 04:33.55 | `Zypher | ~wave Aiiane |
| 04:33.56 | purl | Bye, Aiiane |
| 04:33.59 | `Zypher | wow |
| 04:34.04 | `Zypher | that wasn't nice purl |
| 04:34.05 | Aiiane | ~fail `Zypher |
| 04:34.05 | purl | `Zypher: FAIL! |
| 04:34.17 | `Zypher | purls fault! |
| 04:34.39 | `Zypher | is purl the second generation of url? |
| 04:36.17 | `Zypher | Aiiane: how has you been? |
| 04:36.21 | `Zypher | did the world end without me? |
| 04:36.36 | zarious | ok, you know why i hate bond movies? some smoking hot chick always dies in the end |
| 04:37.30 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 04:37.37 | `Zypher | dot |
| 04:37.39 | `Zypher | dot |
| 04:39.03 | zarious | casino royale was good though, i like the new bond |
| 04:46.04 | `Zypher | Aiiane: did they fix the game yet? |
| 04:46.46 | Aiiane | are mmo's ever fixed? |
| 04:47.20 | `Zypher | no, but they can be altered in better directions |
| 04:47.46 | Aiiane | rtfherald |
| 04:47.49 | Aiiane | ~rtfherald |
| 04:47.50 | purl | rtfherald is probably Read the freaking Herald: http://herald.warhammeronline.com/ |
| 04:48.00 | `Zypher | its an rss feed |
| 04:48.09 | `Zypher | but I never hear anything about end-game improvements |
| 04:51.55 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I've decided that people in the Greater Souther California area |
| 04:51.58 | `Zypher | cannot drive |
| 04:52.04 | `Zypher | worth shit |
| 04:52.17 | Aiiane | s/in the Greater Souther California area// |
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| 04:53.40 | `Zypher | Southern* |
| 04:53.50 | `Zypher | anyways ya |
| 04:53.54 | `Zypher | I was almost hit |
| 04:53.57 | `Zypher | like 3-5 times |
| 04:54.10 | `Zypher | because people cut across like 4 lanes |
| 04:54.11 | `Zypher | without looking |
| 04:54.19 | `Zypher | or randomly slow down |
| 04:54.24 | `Zypher | when there is no one around |
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| 05:23.05 | `Zypher | Aiiane: you still there? |
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| 05:41.16 | Aiiane | I stepped out for a moment but I'm back now, why `Zypher? |
| 05:43.04 | `Zypher | against all better judgement |
| 05:43.13 | `Zypher | I'm tempted to play wow again :( |
| 05:43.54 | `Zypher | do you think it's worth my time? |
| 05:44.06 | `Zypher | assuming you have some ideas of what is going on in wotlk |
| 05:44.19 | `Zypher | *since I haven't kept up for 8 months* |
| 05:47.35 | `Zypher | ~poke Aiiane |
| 05:47.36 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Aiiane, pokes Aiiane repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 05:48.00 | Aiiane | aside from the achievement system, it's basically the same as it always was |
| 05:48.33 | `Zypher | well |
| 05:48.36 | `Zypher | aside from that |
| 05:48.41 | `Zypher | what of the class changes? |
| 05:52.35 | Aiiane | um |
| 05:52.35 | Aiiane | too early to really say, I think |
| 05:52.35 | Aiiane | ret pallies are currently sort of stupidly bursty, but I think that's getting changed |
| 05:56.30 | `Zypher | I heard tanking was made overly easy |
| 05:59.38 | Aiiane | lol: http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maths3zt1.jpg |
| 06:00.38 | Aiiane | from this thread (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168175) |
| 06:02.41 | `Zypher | Aiiane: see I never experienced that |
| 06:02.44 | `Zypher | so idk |
| 06:04.37 | `Zypher | Aiiane: aren't you out of T3 yet? |
| 06:05.22 | Aiiane | I'm 32 now |
| 06:05.23 | Aiiane | so yes |
| 06:05.31 | `Zypher | neato |
| 06:05.55 | `Zypher | I can't sleep |
| 06:06.24 | `Zypher | why do people call core 2 duos |
| 06:06.27 | `Zypher | duo core? |
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| 06:09.20 | Aiiane | no idea |
| 06:09.35 | shockbeta | ignorance |
| 06:09.39 | shockbeta | lol |
| 06:09.46 | `Zypher | i wouldn't venture that far |
| 06:09.59 | `Zypher | I would just assume they don't make the connection between duo and dual |
| 06:10.03 | shockbeta | cause duo core sounds better and easier to say then core 2 duo |
| 06:10.25 | shockbeta | and a little ignorance, cause if they knew what they had they woudl say it correctly |
| 06:10.41 | `Zypher | still not ignorance |
| 06:10.49 | shockbeta | well yeah kinda |
| 06:11.31 | `Zypher | I'd be curious to see how my computer handles wow these days |
| 06:11.44 | `Zypher | perhaps I should see if I can get back into my old account |
| 06:11.59 | `Zypher | do the account people work at night? |
| 06:12.16 | shockbeta | ignorant is the eprfect word to use in many situations, just people think it's a put down, when it's not exactly. It's jsut an easy way of stating lack of knowledge in a certain subject. |
| 06:13.19 | `Zypher | A willful neglect or refusal to acquire knowledge which one may acquire and it is his duty to have |
| 06:14.46 | shockbeta | the state of being unedicated or uninformed. |
| 06:14.50 | Fal` | hey Aiiane, did you see that person asking about what your UI looks like? |
| 06:15.00 | shockbeta | uninformed about what processor they have |
| 06:15.02 | shockbeta | :p |
| 06:15.19 | Aiiane | Fal`: it was posted in the WHA UI forum |
| 06:15.25 | shockbeta | and lack of knowledge or willingness to learn the difference between duo and dual |
| 06:15.27 | shockbeta | lol |
| 06:15.30 | Fal` | your UI? where? |
| 06:15.31 | Aiiane | or more specifically, that's about the third time it's been posted in the WHA UI forum |
| 06:15.36 | Aiiane | no, the request |
| 06:15.38 | Aiiane | :P |
| 06:15.39 | Fal` | oh |
| 06:15.45 | Fal` | so the answer is no? |
| 06:16.01 | Aiiane | the answer is I haven't posted it yet |
| 06:18.14 | Fal` | not happy with it? |
| 06:18.22 | Aiiane | no, I just haven't posted it yet |
| 06:18.34 | Aiiane | being happy with -/-> posting |
| 06:18.35 | Aiiane | ;) |
| 06:18.35 | Fal` | ah, not a sharer |
| 06:18.51 | Fal` | wtf is -/-> |
| 06:18.55 | Fal` | =/= |
| 06:18.56 | Fal` | ? |
| 06:19.02 | Fal` | or != |
| 06:19.18 | Aiiane | -/-> = not --> = does not imply |
| 06:20.50 | Fal` | odd, is that a formal logic symbol? |
| 06:20.59 | Fal` | I've never run across it |
| 06:28.04 | `Zypher | Fal`: Aiiane ~= logical |
| 06:31.24 | shockbeta | So I figured out why they disabled ToolTipSetFont() |
| 06:32.47 | shockbeta | It pretty much stays set for every tooltip after that of the same type. They just reuse the same window which makes sense, but the don't reset it... so once you set font.. you have to make sure you're nice and unset it when you're done... So it makes sure you really want to change the font befoer oyu do... |
| 06:38.01 | Aiiane | did I mention I really hate formal logic? |
| 06:41.16 | `Zypher | I assumed as much |
| 06:42.06 | `Zypher | Aiiane: do you like pie? |
| 06:43.06 | Aiiane | depends on what type |
| 06:43.23 | `Zypher | apple? |
| 06:43.38 | `Zypher | http://www.thegoogle.com/ |
| 06:43.39 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 06:44.35 | Aiiane | I get an address-not-found error on that page |
| 06:44.44 | `Zypher | yes |
| 06:44.47 | `Zypher | this is why I rofl |
| 06:44.52 | Aiiane | ...? |
| 06:45.10 | `Zypher | i am surprised such a domain is not registered |
| 06:46.33 | `Zypher | I |
| 06:46.36 | `Zypher | am |
| 06:46.39 | `Zypher | stoopid |
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| 07:09.17 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, how was the sports? |
| 07:27.33 | Thunder_Child | you fail as a conversationalist `Zypher |
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| 08:26.47 | Repo | 10actionbarcolor: 03Aiiane * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag 1.2 for changeset b617262723af |
| 08:26.48 | Repo | Added dependency for EA_MoraleWindow (to guarantee it will be loaded for morale button hooking). |
| 08:29.05 | Thunder_Child | isnt it past your bed time Aiiane? |
| 08:30.10 | Aiiane | aroo? |
| 08:30.12 | Aiiane | it's 1:30 |
| 08:37.21 | Thunder_Child | yes, yes it is |
| 08:38.18 | WobWork | whut? |
| 08:38.26 | Aiiane | where's my MrPlow for WAR? :P |
| 08:38.37 | WobWork | hehe |
| 08:38.42 | WobWork | lemme get it working for WoW first =P |
| 08:39.28 | WobWork | how is the inventory handling api? |
| 08:39.37 | Aiiane | no idea, haven't looked at it |
| 08:40.31 | WobWork | I still have some bad end case swaps in MrPlow I haven't figured out =( |
| 08:41.28 | Aiiane | Eh, right now I wouldn't really care whether it was an optimal algorithm or not |
| 08:45.48 | WobWork | every time I decide I want to add a button to the loot window to destroy a gray |
| 08:45.52 | WobWork | I get another bag |
| 08:46.38 | Aiiane | lol |
| 08:46.45 | Aiiane | just ding 40 |
| 08:46.48 | Aiiane | and that problem will be solved |
| 08:47.40 | Aiiane | The most annoying thing... is that the bags have the teardrops on the right hand side |
| 08:47.46 | Aiiane | that seem like they're designed for auto-sorting |
| 08:47.52 | Aiiane | but they don't work :S |
| 08:48.56 | Thunder_Child | yes they do |
| 08:49.01 | Thunder_Child | most of the time |
| 08:50.12 | Thunder_Child | as far as i can tell it almost seems to require some kind of reload before they work |
| 08:50.39 | Aiiane | ah |
| 08:50.43 | Aiiane | hrm |
| 08:50.46 | Aiiane | experimenting time |
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| 08:54.54 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane, if you do, let me know please |
| 08:55.14 | Aiiane | do what? |
| 08:55.46 | Thunder_Child | find out what makes the bag filters work properly |
| 08:56.40 | Aiiane | hmm... well, that time it worked when I did a reloadui after setting some filters |
| 08:57.20 | Aiiane | and then when I changed filters and tried again w/o reloadui, it didn't work |
| 08:57.37 | Aiiane | let's try reloadui again now... |
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| 08:58.18 | Aiiane | nope, didn't work, but now I have a theory... |
| 08:58.45 | Aiiane | yep. that's it - only 1 filter works per bag |
| 08:58.50 | Aiiane | only the first one |
| 08:59.12 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 08:59.25 | Aiiane | or more specifically |
| 08:59.28 | Aiiane | they're all ANDed |
| 08:59.35 | Aiiane | so you can't do any OR-type filters |
| 08:59.49 | Thunder_Child | because i have a bag in the middle that properly filters both cult and alch |
| 08:59.55 | Thunder_Child | into it |
| 09:00.01 | Aiiane | hrm |
| 09:00.13 | Aiiane | might be that different submenu items are OR'd then |
| 09:00.18 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 09:00.30 | Aiiane | but I had Potions and Apothecary checked |
| 09:00.33 | Aiiane | and it didn't work |
| 09:00.35 | Aiiane | reloadui, didn't work |
| 09:00.39 | Aiiane | then unchecked apoth |
| 09:00.41 | Aiiane | worked |
| 09:00.49 | Aiiane | (I was using a potion as my test item) |
| 09:00.51 | Thunder_Child | and the one bag i have 2 different things in is the first bag..which would make any test fail |
| 09:01.56 | Aiiane | -- check filter |
| 09:01.56 | Aiiane | -- though can skip check if one of the filters from the same filterGroup already matched |
| 09:01.59 | Aiiane | and then later |
| 09:02.03 | Aiiane | -- check each filter group marked to make sure it had at least one filter match |
| 09:02.04 | Aiiane | so yeah |
| 09:02.14 | Aiiane | top-level items are AND |
| 09:02.18 | Aiiane | sublevel items are OR |
| 09:02.22 | Aiiane | or so it seems |
| 09:02.46 | Aiiane | I might have to mod that |
| 09:02.51 | Aiiane | to make them all OR's |
| 09:04.24 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane you're my hero |
| 09:04.47 | Aiiane | although... blah. that makes usability/rarity checks not work nearly as well |
| 09:04.48 | Aiiane | hrm |
| 09:05.02 | Aiiane | might have to do more in-depth recoding then |
| 09:16.35 | WobWork | I thought the filters were just that |
| 09:16.36 | WobWork | filters |
| 09:16.40 | WobWork | ie, only for incoming loot |
| 09:16.47 | Thunder_Child | they are |
| 09:16.53 | Thunder_Child | afaik |
| 09:17.42 | Aiiane | they are |
| 09:17.45 | Aiiane | but that'd still be handy |
| 09:22.08 | Aiiane | and actually |
| 09:22.25 | Aiiane | you could almost make a simple bag sorter by using the filter functions |
| 09:22.37 | Aiiane | as long as you had a free slot in each bag, and a free bag for "queue" |
| 09:29.39 | Aiiane | oooooooooooohkay. |
| 09:29.42 | Aiiane | now I get how they're doing this. |
| 09:29.57 | Aiiane | it's a little unintuitive, but it does actually work (once you know how it's supposed to) properly |
| 09:30.40 | Aiiane | well, actually, I take that back |
| 09:32.12 | Aiiane | time to go buy a bunch of lowbie renown weapons to test something |
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| 09:39.00 | shockbeta | doesn't EA_Window_OverheadMap.ToggleWorldMapWindow open the worldmap? |
| 09:40.45 | Aiiane | yes? |
| 09:40.56 | Aiiane | I just did it from /script, worked fine |
| 09:42.17 | shockbeta | yeah figured out the problem... Apparantly when you have two windows on top fo each other.. top window is child of bottom window.. the bottom window can register for OnRButtonUp(),,, but not LbuttonUp or OnMouseOver... weird |
| 09:56.22 | Repo | 10bft: 03Aiiane * r1 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added tag 1.0 for changeset 2c8a24e2ddd7 |
| 09:56.23 | Repo | Initial commit. Tweaks the backpack filtering to be better about allowing filters from different type trees to merge together. |
| 09:58.15 | art3mis | i remembered that curse guys name |
| 09:58.19 | art3mis | guillotine |
| 09:59.08 | Aiiane | that sounds more like net in a mean mood, art3mis |
| 09:59.09 | Aiiane | :P |
| 09:59.11 | Aiiane | (I kid) |
| 09:59.28 | art3mis | heh could very well be ;) |
| 10:00.14 | art3mis | stupid deceptive ipaq |
| 10:00.27 | art3mis | i keep forgetting to do the DLS fix to it |
| 10:00.36 | art3mis | it says its 5am right now heh |
| 10:05.15 | Aiiane | heh |
| 10:11.37 | Repo | 10tithetracker: 03sangdrax8 * r18 TitheTracker.lua: added reset command |
| 10:16.40 | shockbeta | Any idea why savedvars wouldn't save? not doing anything crazy...in init: if XpR.Settings == nil then XpRp = { setting = true, set = false, blah =1 } in mod file.. <SavedVariable name="XpRp.Settings" />... I load game.. /reloadui and it doesn't save. I'm saving another table in the same addon and that one is saving fine. |
| 10:22.32 | Aiiane | shockbeta: aside from the fact that you typed "if XpR" instead of "if XpRp" ? |
| 10:22.58 | shockbeta | typo it's correct in file:p |
| 10:23.08 | Aiiane | also aside from the fact that you typed "XpRp = {" and not "XpRp.Settings = " ? |
| 10:23.25 | Aiiane | why don't you just pastey your code :P |
| 10:23.52 | shockbeta | if(XpRp.Settings == nil) then XpRp.Settings = { } XpRp.Settings.ShowLevel = true; XpRp.Settings.ShowRank = true; XpRp.Settings.DisplayXpElement = true; XpRp.Settings.DisplayRpElement = true; end |
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| 10:26.30 | shockbeta | would local effect it? |
| 10:30.30 | shockbeta | local XpRp = { } at top of file |
| 10:31.15 | shockbeta | I believe it does... |
| 10:31.26 | shockbeta | I take local off it and it saves it out |
| 10:32.01 | shockbeta | http://waruidev.pastey.net/99837 |
| 10:40.34 | Aiiane | yes... the variable saving only saves globals |
| 10:42.00 | Aiiane | in fact, I'm surprised you're not getting errors trying to call XpRp.Initialize() |
| 10:54.17 | shockbeta | works like a champ.. lol |
| 10:54.25 | shockbeta | ignorance is bliss;) |
| 10:54.48 | shockbeta | well I'm nto cause it's part of waaaghbar |
| 10:55.17 | shockbeta | it's aplugin.. and they way the original one was written it' going WaaaghBar.XpRp.Init |
| 10:55.45 | shockbeta | WaaaghBar.XpRp = XpRp at the bottom of the file.. now I understand why they were doign that. |
| 10:59.21 | shockbeta | do you use waaghbar Aiiane? probably not:p |
| 11:08.12 | Aiiane | Currently yes. |
| 11:09.21 | Aiiane | I'm keeping an eye on both its development and snt bar |
| 11:15.00 | shockbeta | Wanna test something for me? |
| 11:16.09 | Aiiane | right now, I want to test my pillow |
| 11:16.16 | Aiiane | g'night~ |
| 11:16.58 | shockbeta | g'night |
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| 11:53.22 | benny | what's snt? |
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| 12:43.47 | shockbeta | another addon like waaaghbar |
| 12:43.55 | shockbeta | oh wow.. hour later... lol |
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| 12:48.31 | rmet0815 | good afternoon everyone! I was wondering if there is a possibility to change text-colors of a text label in mid-label. e.g. with control codes or with a special char-sequence, like in war |cFF00FF |
| 12:48.32 | Felyza | Aii/Aiiane, when you see this, a thank you for BlackBox! It got alot of use this weekend, and I wasn't stuck once where I couldn't take a rez because I had the releasing in box overlaying the accept rez box. |
| 12:49.03 | Felyza | rmet0815, no, the way the api works, you need to do seperate colors per label |
| 12:49.30 | rmet0815 | aww a pity :( |
| 12:49.42 | Felyza | sorry, no skittles for your ui |
| 12:49.51 | rmet0815 | another questions: Is there a way to check if some text fits in a label before you set the text ? |
| 12:50.17 | Felyza | i've seen one, but can't remember how it was done |
| 12:50.23 | rmet0815 | or to calculate the size of a label depending on some text-font combination ? |
| 12:50.50 | rmet0815 | i checked tooltip, but couldn't find anything. at least anything obvious |
| 12:51.26 | Felyza | really, your best option is to do filler text with W's for letters and 8's for numbers for max width of what you're going to do, and use that size |
| 12:52.55 | rmet0815 | well, the problem is that the label-width is limited, and i have to calculate what i can fit in |
| 12:53.22 | Felyza | make the label bigger |
| 12:53.30 | rmet0815 | cant ) |
| 12:55.05 | Felyza | WindowSetDimensions should allow you to change the size of the label |
| 12:56.31 | rmet0815 | ok, thanx ;) |
| 12:57.09 | Felyza | rmet0815, function LabelGetTextDimensions( windowName ) in windowstate.lua |
| 12:57.31 | Felyza | between that, and WindowSetDimensions, you should be golden |
| 12:57.52 | rmet0815 | thanx for the hint, checking it |
| 12:57.53 | Felyza | There's another thing somewhere that allows you to tell a label to automatically resize text |
| 12:59.50 | rmet0815 | okey dokey, thanx for all the information, very much appreciated ! |
| 13:00.26 | Felyza | I don't know if it applies to labels, but an xml option of buttons is textAutoFitMinScale... if you want to look along those lines and see if that's work |
| 13:00.57 | Felyza | here's a random line to show it in action... <Label name="$parentInCombatText" font="font_default_text" textalign="center" wordwrap="true" textAutoFitMinScale="0.5"> |
| 13:01.32 | rmet0815 | oh, that's also a nice one |
| 13:02.50 | Felyza | i think they put those in for people who scale an interface WAY down, so you can still read text |
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| 14:41.54 | tronned | morning all |
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| 15:44.33 | `Zypher | oh hai there |
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| 15:57.53 | tronned | hi2u |
| 15:58.53 | `Zypher | I be sleepy |
| 16:06.08 | Felyza | hmm |
| 16:06.24 | Felyza | haven't crashed yet, surprisingly... and not yet logged off due to inactivity either |
| 16:06.41 | Felyza | dumping the entire spell database to d() log |
| 16:17.47 | TheBigZ | Felyza: new patch, or you are just getting very lucky? |
| 16:18.51 | `Zypher | I actually just got a beta invite for Runes of Magic |
| 16:18.52 | `Zypher | which |
| 16:18.56 | `Zypher | I am now downloading |
| 16:19.07 | nicoli_s | sounds like a crappy mmo |
| 16:19.23 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: a lot of things sound crappy |
| 16:19.29 | `Zypher | and yet still provide entertainment |
| 16:19.59 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: and at the moment I am as you are well aware not very content with warhammer |
| 16:21.17 | nicoli_s | get dead space |
| 16:21.27 | nicoli_s | that game fucking rocks |
| 16:21.35 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: worthless imo |
| 16:21.37 | `Zypher | :S |
| 16:21.46 | nicoli_s | you played it? |
| 16:21.58 | zarious | warhammer needs to get some pve content or its gonna run into problems |
| 16:22.25 | `Zypher | zarious: the pve is there |
| 16:22.29 | `Zypher | people seem to overlook it |
| 16:22.35 | `Zypher | it just isn't very hard. |
| 16:22.46 | nicoli_s | and there's not 150 dungeons like in wow |
| 16:23.01 | `Zypher | there is |
| 16:23.03 | `Zypher | Gunbad |
| 16:23.04 | zarious | i buggy and not well developed |
| 16:23.06 | `Zypher | Bastion |
| 16:23.11 | `Zypher | bloodrot |
| 16:23.13 | `Zypher | bilerot |
| 16:23.16 | `Zypher | and |
| 16:23.19 | zarious | its* |
| 16:23.20 | `Zypher | Lost Vale |
| 16:23.21 | `Zypher | orrr |
| 16:23.25 | `Zypher | the equive for order |
| 16:23.32 | `Zypher | it isn't buggy really |
| 16:23.36 | `Zypher | it just isn't very complex |
| 16:29.48 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: what mmo would you recommend? |
| 16:29.59 | nicoli_s | dont have any to if you dont like war |
| 16:30.08 | nicoli_s | i personally suck at most mmos |
| 16:36.54 | `Zypher | aids. |
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| 16:38.58 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: do you cats have any AoC accounts lying around? |
| 16:39.01 | `Zypher | i'd like to try it |
| 16:40.37 | `Zypher | oh wait |
| 16:40.42 | `Zypher | theres a 3$ download fee |
| 16:40.42 | `Zypher | haha |
| 16:40.46 | `Zypher | fuck that |
| 16:41.22 | nicoli_s | never bothered to get an acct to test it out other than in beta zypher |
| 16:42.40 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: I think there is a $3 fee cause I hear there are bare female breasts when the fem characters don't have on a top. They prob figure they would make a killing on people just down'ing it for that? hahah |
| 16:43.33 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: I was never into the anime thing |
| 16:43.46 | `Zypher | just doesn't 'work' for me |
| 16:44.01 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: is AoC very anime like? I don't know much about it. |
| 16:44.30 | `Zypher | well I consider anything pixelated |
| 16:44.31 | `Zypher | anime |
| 16:44.40 | `Zypher | since it isn't 'real' |
| 16:45.11 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: Oh, you mean cartoon like. Anime isn't the same thing, that is a very specific type of style. |
| 16:45.20 | `Zypher | well |
| 16:45.23 | `Zypher | cartoon like then |
| 16:45.52 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: not into the doodles, I can understand that. |
| 16:46.14 | `Zypher | I'm just interested in AoC for its high graphic detail |
| 16:46.39 | `Zypher | http://kotaku.com/5069106/good-heavens-you-got-zombies-in-my-call-of-duty |
| 16:46.40 | `Zypher | haha |
| 16:47.54 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: yeah, looking at screenshots now. They are pretty. I like that the character creation looks complex. I like a lot of character creation options. The best CC I have seen for a MMO was in Star Wars Galaxies. |
| 16:48.13 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: AoC has more then SWG |
| 16:48.21 | `Zypher | atleast that was my understanding |
| 16:48.29 | `Zypher | I have yet to play AoC |
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| 16:48.48 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: from the screen shots I have seen of the AoC it doesn't seem like it, but maybe. |
| 16:49.01 | Repo | 10bigbuff: 03Vodd * r2 BigBuff (5 files in 1 directory): Added a folder remotely |
| 16:49.11 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: well |
| 16:49.18 | `Zypher | meh! |
| 16:49.26 | `Zypher | I can't argue without knowledge |
| 16:49.28 | `Zypher | well |
| 16:49.30 | `Zypher | I can |
| 16:49.37 | `Zypher | but then how can I win or lose?! |
| 16:49.42 | TheBigZ | me either! so lets not speculate until one of us plays it! |
| 16:49.59 | `Zypher | Runes of Magic should give me my wow fix for a bit |
| 16:50.09 | `Zypher | since I haven't decided if I want to play wow again |
| 16:51.01 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: How tempted are you to go back come November? |
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| 16:51.14 | `Zypher | I'm not tempted by Wotlk |
| 16:51.33 | `Zypher | it's more that wow offers a more stable (less head aches) gaming experience |
| 16:52.00 | `Zypher | I get very angry at Warhammer every few days |
| 16:52.02 | TheBigZ | that comes with time. It'll be hard pressed to find that level of quality in a newer game. |
| 16:52.03 | `Zypher | and want to punch it |
| 16:52.32 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: yah, but patience is something I excercised during beta |
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| 16:52.41 | `Zypher | the lack of any update from beta to launch |
| 16:52.44 | `Zypher | was startling |
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| 16:54.23 | `Zypher | hello Chryzo |
| 16:54.29 | `Zypher | how is TCoS? |
| 16:54.39 | Chryzo | TCoS ? |
| 16:54.41 | Chryzo | morning all |
| 16:54.49 | `Zypher | The Chronicles of the Spellborn |
| 16:54.51 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: meh, I consider all MMO's beta for at least the first year they go gold. I think blizzard is the only exception I would make to that rule... for them I'd say about three, and that is because they underestimate their hardware requirements for their servers. I remember the first few months of wow. The game itself was pretty stable but it was a nightmare trying to get onto a server. |
| 16:54.54 | `Zypher | I thought that was what you were playing |
| 16:54.58 | Chryzo | dunno, not played |
| 16:55.24 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: I know this |
| 16:55.31 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: good luck, just dont play anything from Sony. |
| 16:55.49 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: again, I know this ;P |
| 16:56.21 | TheBigZ | heh. I am so glad that Bioware is going to be attempting the development on the next SW MMO |
| 16:56.32 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: I just don't see warhammer providing the experience I was under the impression they were aiming for. |
| 16:56.35 | TheBigZ | and that the publisher is NOT Sony. |
| 16:56.57 | `Zypher | yah, thank god |
| 16:57.11 | `Zypher | the real question is.... |
| 16:57.21 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: I believe it isn't the game they want it to be yet. However, it seems like they are adding content as fast as they can. Come back in 3-6 months and it prob will be a lot closer. |
| 16:57.23 | `Zypher | how much worse is SONY vs. EA |
| 16:58.36 | Noctys | I won't play any sony MMOs, they are all cookie-cutter gamers. I feel like I'm playing the same game with new textures and names. |
| 16:59.00 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: So far Sony is awful about fixing things that are broken and adding meaningful content and also saying they will do one thing and then doing the exact opposite and screwing their fan base. However, my experince with EA is that they do patch, they do add content (and lots of it), and they generally back things that are well designed and very expandable. So... I think EA is much much better. |
| 16:59.49 | `Zypher | we'll see |
| 16:59.53 | TheBigZ | This is my first MMO from EA though, so we'll have to see |
| 17:01.06 | Noctys | Has EA done any other MMOs? |
| 17:01.17 | `Zypher | not really |
| 17:01.23 | `Zypher | they are just publishers atm |
| 17:01.30 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: I think that after EA sees its first few months of massive income they will give Mythic much more resources to really do whatever they want to make it better. My god, look at the resources they put into the SIMS because it has such a big fan base, and they dont even get monthly payments for it |
| 17:01.51 | Repo | 10bigbuff: 03Vodd 04v1.0 * r3 : Tagging as v1.0 |
| 17:02.16 | TheBigZ | It seems like the publisher often has much more influence of the success and direction in MMO's. |
| 17:03.08 | `Zypher | it seems that mmos are going crapward |
| 17:03.23 | `Zypher | because publishers are too hesitent to give them the backing they need |
| 17:04.03 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: yeah I agree, I have more hope in EA to give the backing... like Blizzard does for WoW. |
| 17:04.10 | `Zypher | yup |
| 17:04.15 | `Zypher | I don't see it happening tho |
| 17:04.29 | `Zypher | EA has too large of a product market |
| 17:04.35 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: again we can't figure out who wins or lose in this convo until the future :( |
| 17:04.42 | `Zypher | oh but we can |
| 17:04.53 | `Zypher | see |
| 17:05.07 | `Zypher | the odds are that EA has too many titles |
| 17:05.14 | `Zypher | and Blizzard has a select few |
| 17:05.20 | Aii | you're welcome Felyza |
| 17:05.22 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: But EA , from past experince, does back the cash cows. An MMO is much more of a cash cow then a game like the SIMS due to the subscription nature. |
| 17:05.39 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: this can be true and false at the same time |
| 17:05.47 | `Zypher | MMOS are also black holes of death |
| 17:06.03 | `Zypher | where they require millions in server maintenence and bandwidth |
| 17:06.05 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: true it can be, but only the FUTURE will tell if Warhammer is a black hole of death |
| 17:06.21 | `Zypher | I don't think that's true |
| 17:06.26 | `Zypher | but I respect your opinion |
| 17:06.31 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: same |
| 17:06.40 | `Zypher | Aii: did you sleep at all? |
| 17:06.47 | Aii | ..yes? |
| 17:07.04 | `Zypher | like 4 hours? |
| 17:07.11 | Aii | 6ish |
| 17:07.17 | TheBigZ | But for my opinion to change I need evidence based on future results, because I'm more of an optimistic toward EA then a pessimistic (as toward Sony). |
| 17:07.27 | Aii | i should have gone to bed a little earlier, it slipped my mind that i had to be up 2 hours earlier than normal |
| 17:07.47 | `Zypher | TheBigZ: I don't trust EA |
| 17:07.49 | `Zypher | but |
| 17:07.52 | `Zypher | we shall see |
| 17:08.29 | `Zypher | Aii: I has something in my front pocket for you. |
| 17:08.45 | `Zypher | sorry |
| 17:08.49 | `Zypher | I'm still waking up |
| 17:08.57 | `Zypher | oh hai Cairenn |
| 17:09.00 | TheBigZ | `Zypher: I don't have enough experience with EA. I don't trust them ever putting out the content they promised (Spore is a good example), but I do trust when something is a success they add everything originally meant and more. |
| 17:09.05 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 17:09.25 | `Zypher | Cairenn: git git |
| 17:09.34 | Cairenn | working on it :) |
| 17:09.54 | `Zypher | :P |
| 17:11.24 | `Zypher | Cairenn: just admin? |
| 17:11.55 | Cairenn | more than "just an admin", but I don't do any of the site programming, *nod* |
| 17:12.13 | `Zypher | ah |
| 17:12.14 | `Zypher | I see |
| 17:12.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:13.07 | `Zypher | I'm just a critic |
| 17:13.11 | `Zypher | who is critical |
| 17:13.14 | `Zypher | of others |
| 17:13.16 | Chryzo | werelds |
| 17:13.19 | Chryzo | erf, he is not around |
| 17:14.08 | Felyza | ok, so i figured out how to write a line to a log file... now how do i make it write many lines |
| 17:14.30 | Noctys | TheBigZ: Just got back to you through curse on libTargetInfo. But to make to answer your question here, it stores both with and without it. (^foo) |
| 17:14.36 | Chryzo | for i,0,10,-1 |
| 17:14.41 | zarious | try something\n something on another line |
| 17:15.24 | Felyza | zarious, i'm working with textlogincrementalsaving and such ;) \n isn't an option |
| 17:16.13 | `Zypher | why not do a simple for k,v in pairs(dump) do whateverfunction(v) end |
| 17:16.44 | TheBigZ | Noctys: cool |
| 17:17.11 | Felyza | why is [[for x=1,100 do local c = GetAbilityDesc (x, y) local s=(L"A: " .. x .. L" D: " .. c) TextLogAddEntry("A", x, s) end]] only adding x=1? |
| 17:17.28 | zarious | i think you have to use i |
| 17:17.46 | Felyza | x vs i shouldn't matter |
| 17:17.59 | `Zypher | Felyza: because I cant't read what you just pasted |
| 17:18.03 | `Zypher | because I R blind |
| 17:18.26 | zarious | lua> for x=1,5 do print(i) end |
| 17:18.26 | lua_bot | zarious: nil, nil, nil, nil, nil |
| 17:18.45 | Felyza | lua for x=1,5 do print(x) end |
| 17:18.46 | Chryzo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.49 | `Zypher | lua> for i=1,10 do print(i) end |
| 17:18.49 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 17:18.56 | Felyza | lua> for x=1,5 do print(x) end |
| 17:18.56 | lua_bot | Felyza: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 17:19.07 | `Zypher | aids? |
| 17:19.16 | Felyza | i can call it x, i, key, number, variable name doesn't matter |
| 17:19.23 | `Zypher | yessir |
| 17:19.29 | `Zypher | pastey that tho |
| 17:19.29 | Chryzo | Felyza: tried adding some ; in between your statements ? |
| 17:19.31 | `Zypher | so I can read it |
| 17:19.45 | `Zypher | ; doesn't mean squat in lua |
| 17:19.55 | Chryzo | even on single lines ? |
| 17:19.59 | `Zypher | yup |
| 17:20.01 | `Zypher | however |
| 17:20.04 | Chryzo | oh, ok |
| 17:20.05 | `Zypher | <br> does mean new line |
| 17:20.08 | `Zypher | in war |
| 17:20.10 | `Zypher | so try it |
| 17:20.31 | zarious | i thought ; delinieates a new logical line for lua to process? |
| 17:20.35 | Felyza | ; = unexpected symbol |
| 17:21.06 | `Zypher | <br> |
| 17:21.07 | `Zypher | do it |
| 17:21.12 | `Zypher | or pastey that line |
| 17:21.14 | `Zypher | so I can read it |
| 17:21.31 | Noctys | try: [ [ for x=1,100 do local c = GetAbilityDesc (x, y) local s = (L"A: " .. x .. L" D: " .. c) TextLogAddEntry(L"A", x, s) end ] ] |
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| 17:23.32 | `Zypher | Aii: part hardy? |
| 17:23.37 | `Zypher | party* |
| 17:23.38 | `Zypher | :( |
| 17:24.57 | `Zypher | http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/36043/detail/ |
| 17:29.21 | `Zypher | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7239713464097863247 |
| 17:29.23 | `Zypher | orig > all |
| 17:29.53 | Felyza | nicoli_s, you there? |
| 17:30.18 | Noctys | Felyza: Did you try it like I had above? |
| 17:30.30 | Felyza | no, i got it working though |
| 17:30.44 | Felyza | rearranged a few things |
| 17:33.19 | Noctys | What was wrong? |
| 17:33.25 | Noctys | Just curiose? |
| 17:33.41 | Felyza | noctys, see private query |
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| 17:34.23 | `Zypher | ~dance |
| 17:34.24 | purl | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
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| 17:48.06 | Repo | 10verticalmorale: 03silverq * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): Hopefully fixed occasional revert to horizontal |
| 17:49.11 | Repo | 10verticalmorale: 03silverq 041.01_beta * r5 : Tagging as 1.01_beta |
| 17:53.43 | nicoli_s | felyza im here |
| 17:55.04 | Repo | 10multiauction: 03Odlaw * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): MultiAuction: |
| 17:55.05 | Repo | - Allow an initial bid of 0 for items. Mythic automagically makes initial bids 1 brass. |
| 17:55.08 | Repo | - Added a couple more dependencies.. might fix it for those still having problems. |
| 17:55.14 | Repo | - Added .pkgmeta |
| 17:56.19 | TheBigZ | hmmm that is funny I think the client shouldn't accept a 0 bid no matter what..or at least the min acceptable should always be the amount of the deposit. Silly. |
| 18:04.21 | Odlaw | no, it shouldn't.. but i checked to see how the default AH mechanic works |
| 18:04.26 | Odlaw | and it seems to accept a bid of 0 |
| 18:04.34 | Odlaw | err initial bid of 0 when you put an item up for auction |
| 18:05.03 | Odlaw | it just converts it to 1 brass automagically.. so might as well replicate said function if mythic allows people to try putting items up for 0 <shrug> |
| 18:05.22 | Odlaw | as for actually bidding on an item, i dunno. |
| 18:05.32 | Odlaw | this is for setting items up on the ah |
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| 18:07.14 | Odlaw | someone had complained about not being able to click the accept button in my confirmation window. The only way I could see it happening, is if they had items with initial bids of 0. I had a check in there for it, and removed it. |
| 18:08.05 | Odlaw | What I can't figure out, is why people report problems with my mod when they try to drag n drop items into the multi auction window. I can't replicate their problems :( |
| 18:08.26 | Odlaw | I try with and without other mods enabled, and it works for me |
| 18:08.48 | Odlaw | it's like there's a second type of client out there that is different somehow |
| 18:09.05 | Wizpig | maybe give them a function to print data to a log and send you the log when it happens again |
| 18:09.11 | Odlaw | hrm |
| 18:09.12 | Wizpig | and use that to debug it |
| 18:09.27 | Wizpig | just make a standard optional function for them to run |
| 18:10.25 | Odlaw | hrmmmm |
| 18:12.41 | Odlaw | The OnInit code is only ever activated once per reload right? Not when zoning into different places or anything |
| 18:13.44 | Wizpig | throw a d("asdfasfdasdf") into your OnInit function and go zone somewhere maybe? |
| 18:14.00 | Odlaw | hehe |
| 18:18.29 | Aii | OnInitialize stuff is run when the UI's loaded, and only then, yes |
| 18:18.40 | Aii | not to be confused with the LOADING_END event |
| 18:18.53 | Aii | which occurs every time the loading screen goes away, including after zoning |
| 18:20.41 | Odlaw | k |
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| 18:41.57 | Oscarr | heheh... |
| 18:41.58 | Oscarr | http://www.novaksblog.com/pictures/stumble_on_sunday_4th_part/programming_tip.jpg |
| 18:42.50 | Aii | @project war/bft |
| 18:42.51 | Repo | Aii: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/bft/. BagFilterTweak. Game: WAR. Leader: Aiiane. Updated: 8 hours ago |
| 18:43.04 | Aii | ^--- Thunder_Child |
| 18:47.33 | Chryzo | night |
| 18:52.19 | Thrae | Aii: Well I finally got the chance to update Squared and tried that new icon-scale setting, and that fixed the icon size. What I don't understand is why it needs to be set explicitly. My global scale returns as 1.33333~, and if set that as the icon scale, it resets the icon to the proper size. If I don't set icon-scale, the height on the icon is messed up (but not the width). I still think it's some type of anchoring issue. |
| 18:53.51 | Repo | 10multiauction: 03Odlaw * r9 MultiAuction.lua: |
| 18:53.52 | Repo | MultiAuction: Added a Debug() function output info to a log file |
| 18:53.55 | Aii | dunno Thrae |
| 18:54.03 | Aii | the icon only has 1 anchor, which is center-center |
| 18:54.22 | Aii | so unless its some odd client bug mangling the anchors |
| 18:54.39 | Aii | anywho |
| 18:54.40 | Aii | lunchtime |
| 18:54.41 | Aii | bbl |
| 18:54.43 | `Zypher | nooo |
| 18:54.46 | `Zypher | don't leave me! |
| 18:55.00 | Thrae | Yeah, I know. And again, we have everything fixed if I switch from fullscreen to windowed. |
| 18:55.12 | Thrae | But only if I don't reload the UI twice. |
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| 19:01.35 | `Zypher | hrmmmm |
| 19:20.53 | Aiiane | Thrae: if you switch to windowed, what does your global scale return? |
| 19:34.23 | Felyza | What's better, a 3000 line table, or seveal 50 lines tables, if I need to search through the table and know I need to search in a 50 point range... frequency of searching would be uncommon. |
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| 19:35.16 | Felyza | No lua gurus? |
| 19:36.02 | Aiiane | a 600-line table with each entry being a 50 line table? |
| 19:36.19 | Aiiane | if it's just numerical indices |
| 19:36.31 | Aiiane | than the 3000-line table is probably about as fast |
| 19:36.56 | Aiiane | and saves storing table metadata for 600 subtables |
| 19:36.57 | Felyza | each 'item' is a table of {number, number, number, number} |
| 19:37.11 | Aiiane | indices = keys, not values |
| 19:37.22 | Wizpig | if its not numerical indices its WAYYY slower as 3000 line table, but with all numbers its all constant time referencing |
| 19:37.45 | Aiiane | well |
| 19:37.53 | Aiiane | not exactly Wizpig |
| 19:38.08 | Wizpig | ok, ya I figured I thought that one out wrong lol |
| 19:38.14 | Aiiane | retrieving an individual index is approximately as fast either way |
| 19:38.17 | Felyza | the only thing in the tables not numbers are variable names, and even those are assigned to numbers |
| 19:38.23 | Aiiane | because non-numerical indices are handled as hash tables |
| 19:38.27 | Wizpig | o word |
| 19:38.31 | Wizpig | true |
| 19:38.31 | Felyza | everything can be referenced by [x][x][x] |
| 19:38.34 | Aiiane | which is effectively breaking it down into subtables, invisibly |
| 19:38.38 | Wizpig | ya true |
| 19:38.53 | Wizpig | was thinking with linked list logic vs array logic, my b |
| 19:38.56 | Aiiane | Felyza: what exactly are you doing? |
| 19:39.06 | Aiiane | Wizpig: yeah, tables aren't LL's ;) |
| 19:39.12 | Wizpig | fortunately lol |
| 19:39.23 | Felyza | full list of all potion effects, by spell id, level, type, value, duration |
| 19:40.14 | Aiiane | for simplicity of searching, I'd make at least 3 of those levels of division |
| 19:40.45 | Aiiane | but idk |
| 19:41.11 | Aiiane | i.e. if you had potions[type][level] you could easily get a list of all potions of a given type and level |
| 19:41.31 | Felyza | i was thinking if table[loop][type] = type i'm looking for.. .then do something |
| 19:42.06 | Felyza | loop to run though the list of potion abilities |
| 19:42.07 | Aiiane | but see, that wastes time searching through all the other types |
| 19:42.37 | Aiiane | in general, optimize your table layout for the searches you'll be doing most often |
| 19:42.38 | Felyza | that was why i was wondering about the breakage... only logical break i can see is by type |
| 19:42.58 | Aiiane | I'd break up by type, and then by level |
| 19:42.59 | Felyza | at least for my usage |
| 19:43.38 | Felyza | with my searches, level isn't really used for anything but matching against... wouldn't hit searches |
| 19:43.43 | Aiiane | k |
| 19:43.51 | Aiiane | what else do you search on besides type? |
| 19:44.09 | Felyza | compare effect values |
| 19:44.28 | Thunder_Child | thanks Aiiane, mod goodness |
| 19:44.52 | Felyza | basically try to intelligently find the 'best' potion of a type, given a set of criteria |
| 19:46.04 | Aiiane | static definition of "best", or dynamically definable? |
| 19:46.13 | Felyza | dynamically |
| 19:46.59 | Aiiane | probably can't break it down by more than type then |
| 19:47.07 | Felyza | if one were to prefer smaller stacks first, or to use lower values first, or loot-aquired potions, or crafted potions... etc |
| 19:47.41 | Felyza | loot aquired have static values, regardless of level, and crafted are completely level dependant =/ |
| 19:49.07 | Felyza | the frequency of searches would be getting or losing a potion in inventory, so not that often, but i don't want a few second pause when it occurs |
| 20:00.32 | Aiiane | well, alternatively |
| 20:00.46 | Aiiane | you could rebuild priority tables for each type when the sorting preferences are changed |
| 20:02.17 | Felyza | aiiane, so you can see what i'm working with, this is one type... http://waruidev.pastey.net/99881 |
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| 20:02.49 | Felyza | there's about 18 of those |
| 20:03.35 | Aiiane | The sum total of which takes less space to store than the info about players in a scenario ;) |
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| 20:04.50 | Felyza | i realize being pure numbers, its tiny size wise, but its alot of levels of tables |
| 20:07.30 | Repo | 10abilityalert: 03Celestian * r8 AbilityAlert.lua: |
| 20:07.31 | Repo | play nicer with other mods using similar functions (cooldown updater mods). |
| 20:18.24 | `Zypher | Aiiane: yay I got my account back |
| 20:18.30 | `Zypher | but boo my priest got deleted |
| 20:18.45 | `Zypher | time to go through that whole deal |
| 20:18.52 | `Zypher | get my character restored |
| 20:19.54 | NigelTufnel | ouch |
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| 20:59.11 | Darktao | stupid question, but does anyone know how to have an addon be 1 toon specific? |
| 20:59.21 | Darktao | like if I get squared, where its just for my zealot |
| 21:00.24 | Felyza | sure, usersettings.xml, and set per-character true |
| 21:00.35 | Felyza | then disable it for the others, and leave it enabled for the 1 character |
| 21:00.49 | Felyza | use ui mods menu enabler to easily enable/disable addons |
| 21:01.21 | TheBigZ | Felyza: will that make it so the saved variables will be unique per user too? |
| 21:01.30 | Felyza | yes |
| 21:01.39 | Felyza | afaik anyway |
| 21:02.03 | TheBigZ | Felyza: so will that also make my key bindings unique per character too? |
| 21:02.14 | Felyza | no |
| 21:02.27 | Felyza | keybindings = usersettings |
| 21:02.29 | TheBigZ | :( that is what I really would like, I guess I could find/make an addon for that |
| 21:02.39 | Felyza | aiiane made one a while ago, silly |
| 21:03.07 | TheBigZ | Felyza: that is why I included find in that sentence I thought she might have if no one else |
| 21:03.45 | Darktao | is ui mods menu enabler an addon? |
| 21:03.49 | Felyza | yeah |
| 21:04.11 | Felyza | tiny thing that just tells the game to display the main menu item again |
| 21:04.12 | Darktao | thanks |
| 21:04.58 | Felyza | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.31 | Darktao | could be handy |
| 21:05.41 | Felyza | --almost--- done formating this crap into a table, yay... down to 3 types left |
| 21:06.43 | Deadhawk | Sorry, a bit of a silly question: How to I add seach tags to my curse projects? |
| 21:06.58 | Felyza | you don't, really, its intelligent |
| 21:07.11 | Deadhawk | Eh? |
| 21:07.20 | Felyza | intelligent keyword matching |
| 21:07.39 | Felyza | uses description i believe |
| 21:07.44 | Deadhawk | Right. |
| 21:08.03 | Felyza | description of spell id # 7840: Hi I'm placeholder text! I'm just "dyeing" to be filled in with real text! |
| 21:08.31 | Felyza | and 7841: Mah text here be sayin I be bleachin things! |
| 21:10.47 | Darktao | does anyone know what map addon is being used in this pic? |
| 21:10.48 | Darktao | http://www.wefarmpeople.com/forums/images/war/war1.jpg |
| 21:10.51 | Darktao | in the lower right |
| 21:14.46 | `Zypher | rawr? |
| 21:15.31 | `Zypher | Darktao: that was early beta |
| 21:15.48 | Darktao | ahhh |
| 21:15.50 | Darktao | figures |
| 21:16.16 | `Zypher | you can tell by almost everything else in the ui |
| 21:16.35 | Darktao | I thought maybe it was a highly customized UI |
| 21:17.16 | `Zypher | naw |
| 21:17.21 | `Zypher | thats just how the old ui was setup |
| 21:18.27 | Darktao | damn |
| 21:18.39 | Darktao | that would be nice, to have a little mini version of the area map |
| 21:19.08 | `Zypher | yah |
| 21:19.23 | `Zypher | it was actually just a texture |
| 21:19.31 | `Zypher | with the close button thrown on top |
| 21:19.53 | `Zypher | and that appears to be one of the early scenarios too |
| 21:20.23 | Darktao | bah |
| 21:20.26 | Darktao | that sucks |
| 21:20.27 | Darktao | lol |
| 21:22.36 | Repo | 10abilityalert: 03Celestian * r9 AbilityAlert.lua: corrected most multiple alert issues. |
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| 21:53.37 | Felyza | Aiiane, here's the table I was working on, completed. http://waruidev.pastey.net/99894 |
| 21:54.02 | Felyza | And it won't even require obfusication. ;) |
| 21:55.30 | NigelTufnel | man that is an absurd table haha |
| 21:56.43 | Felyza | I was asking aiiane before about methods to segment it to make searching it faster, now she can have the full scope of what I am working with. |
| 21:59.05 | Felyza | My test ui elementes worked, now just need to work on lookup support and ui element manipulation |
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| 21:59.52 | Felyza | Noctys, check private |
| 22:00.58 | Aiiane | Felyza: the real question is |
| 22:01.04 | Aiiane | what is the /nature/ of the searching you're doing |
| 22:01.09 | Aiiane | are you pulling up lists |
| 22:01.17 | Aiiane | or are you looking up the info for individual items found in inventory |
| 22:01.33 | Aiiane | and then compiling lists based on that info |
| 22:02.20 | Felyza | yes, making an ordered list, ordered based on preferences and matching against the master list, and then using that personal list to update ui elements |
| 22:02.55 | Aiiane | not exactly what im asking |
| 22:03.07 | Aiiane | making an ordered list /how/ |
| 22:03.26 | Aiiane | prefs -> list, or inventory -> list |
| 22:03.40 | Felyza | list compiled form inventory, sorted by preferences |
| 22:03.45 | Aiiane | ok |
| 22:03.49 | Aiiane | then don't break it up |
| 22:04.05 | Aiiane | have one nice table, with the keys being the spellid's (you can pull those from inventory, correct?) |
| 22:04.25 | Felyza | id i can, level i can, effect i cannot, hence the reason for the master list |
| 22:04.33 | Aiiane | yes |
| 22:04.40 | Aiiane | but you have an id which uniquely identifies it |
| 22:04.46 | Felyza | correct |
| 22:04.58 | Aiiane | so you don't want to break your table up, because that would involve doing multiple table lookups when you can just do a single one |
| 22:05.17 | Aiiane | with a single, you just do potionStats... = potions[spellid] |
| 22:06.00 | Aiiane | because you'll always be starting from something that includes a spellid, so you'll never have to iterate over the table |
| 22:06.13 | Aiiane | instead, you iterate over a generated table that's based on what's in inventory, not the master table |
| 22:06.18 | `Zypher | Aiiane: rawr? |
| 22:06.30 | Aiiane | `Zypher: o.o? |
| 22:06.51 | `Zypher | yes rawr |
| 22:07.04 | Aiiane | thus Felyza, instead of entries that look like {7100,0,150,0} |
| 22:07.05 | Aiiane | you'd have |
| 22:07.14 | Aiiane | [7100] = {0,150,0} |
| 22:07.22 | Felyza | k |
| 22:07.25 | `Zypher | Aiiane: http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20081027/ |
| 22:07.28 | Aiiane | or if you wanted |
| 22:07.31 | Aiiane | [7100] = {7100,0,150,0} |
| 22:07.46 | `Zypher | ~pat Felyza |
| 22:07.47 | purl | ACTION pats Felyza and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 22:08.08 | Felyza | now that i'm down to a lump of numbers and {}'s, switching stuff like that is really easy pattern replacing |
| 22:08.45 | Noctys | Need some advice. |
| 22:08.53 | `Zypher | what |
| 22:08.55 | `Zypher | do you need? |
| 22:09.02 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, that link fails in english |
| 22:09.12 | Noctys | I updated my library and (unfortunatly) it is not backwardly compatable. |
| 22:09.13 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: care, I do not |
| 22:09.16 | Thunder_Child | "whose software lets Mac OS X and Linux users run Windows programs without having to Microsoft for a Windows OS license" |
| 22:09.21 | art3mis | Mr.Teeth, Mr.Teeth, Mr.Teeth! |
| 22:09.30 | Thunder_Child | ~lart `Zypher |
| 22:09.30 | purl | executes killall -TERM `Zypher |
| 22:09.39 | Noctys | Only one mob (mine) that I know of uses it; but without the latest update of both kthealer wont work. |
| 22:09.44 | art3mis | apperantly Microsoft == "fork out cash" |
| 22:09.44 | Noctys | *mod |
| 22:09.51 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: it is, for all intents and purposes free xoveroffice |
| 22:09.57 | Darktao | wow |
| 22:10.02 | Darktao | Felyza, nice link |
| 22:10.03 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: which, for the most part can be done in wine |
| 22:10.08 | Thunder_Child | i play on windows so i neither care nor have that issue |
| 22:10.16 | Thunder_Child | but thanks for playing |
| 22:10.24 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: war doesn't work well on linux |
| 22:10.28 | Noctys | I have more people downloading kthealer than the updated library. Should I be including a copy of the library with the mod? |
| 22:10.33 | Darktao | if I could get WAR to run nicely on Arch I'd be in heaven |
| 22:10.34 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, this i can imagine |
| 22:10.50 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: however other games, such as TF2 can be run |
| 22:10.53 | art3mis | okay yeah that link is full of win! |
| 22:11.02 | `Zypher | art3mis: what link?! |
| 22:11.03 | Aiiane | better would be to make the library embeddable Noctys, if there's nothing requiring it to be standalone |
| 22:11.31 | Noctys | It stores target infromation after logout. |
| 22:11.31 | Thunder_Child | great Aiiane is now following in the failenglish footsetps |
| 22:11.35 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: there are also rumors of Steam in whole being ported to Linux and OpenGL |
| 22:12.05 | art3mis | `Zypher: yers |
| 22:12.05 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, that would be hard seeing as how all of the games released for steam would have to be made compatible |
| 22:12.19 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: precicely |
| 22:12.24 | art3mis | free crossover ?!!? its a deal! |
| 22:12.25 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, and my money syas that steam would have to do the converting |
| 22:12.30 | Thunder_Child | says* |
| 22:12.37 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: one second |
| 22:12.42 | Aiiane | how is it failenglish Thunder_Child o.o |
| 22:12.46 | `Zypher | art3mis: it is very win for those of us who like linux |
| 22:12.52 | art3mis | yup |
| 22:12.58 | art3mis | crossover is awesome |
| 22:13.03 | Aiiane | and `Zypher don't make me smack you for another 'embeddable' joke -_- |
| 22:13.10 | Noctys | Aii: I'm not sure if being standalone would be good. Having it running more than once would be bad. |
| 22:13.10 | art3mis | must snag linux and osx versions ;) |
| 22:13.21 | Thunder_Child | and given the ammount of peole that do use linux at home i dont think it would pay for them |
| 22:13.30 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I wasn't even going near that one. |
| 22:13.44 | Aiiane | Noctys: use LibStub or something similar to ensure that no matter how many times its loaded only one copy is actually used |
| 22:13.45 | `Zypher | art3mis: I will be doing the same... |
| 22:13.45 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane, "better would be to..." is not proper |
| 22:13.57 | Thunder_Child | but i dont care, i'm just haseling for fun |
| 22:14.02 | Thunder_Child | hassleing* |
| 22:14.11 | Aiiane | ~proper -/-> fail |
| 22:14.15 | art3mis | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 22:14.16 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 22:14.24 | Noctys | Aii: Maybe I don't understand what you mean by emeddable and standalone... |
| 22:14.33 | Thunder_Child | incorrect Aiiane, improper == fail |
| 22:14.47 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: a few months ago Valve posted a job offering for a Software Engineer with the responsibility of porting DirectX games to OpenGL aswell as being well versed in Unix operating systems |
| 22:14.54 | art3mis | so being an improper young lady == fail young lady? |
| 22:15.05 | Noctys | it won't run more than one copy. I've got the right stuff at the start if LibTargetInfo then... |
| 22:15.05 | Aiiane | Noctys: Standalone = separate object, installed separately |
| 22:15.07 | `Zypher | art3mis: clearly |
| 22:15.15 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, yes. however this does not == bad |
| 22:15.18 | Aiiane | Embeddable = files are included with each mod that uses it, and not loaded as a separate mod |
| 22:15.26 | art3mis | heh that is true |
| 22:15.32 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, steam isnt the only thing valve does |
| 22:15.47 | Noctys | So just make it a file that they would "include" in their .mod file? |
| 22:15.48 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: .................................................................... |
| 22:15.56 | Aiiane | Noctys: pretty much |
| 22:16.00 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: I understand this, steam has nothing to do with OpenGL |
| 22:16.03 | Aiiane | although you might want version checking |
| 22:16.03 | `Zypher | it doesn't render anything |
| 22:16.10 | `Zypher | OpenGL is games |
| 22:16.17 | `Zypher | If they are interested in porting games |
| 22:16.18 | Aiiane | so that if an older version of the library is loaded first, the newer version is still used |
| 22:16.21 | Aiiane | that's what LibStub does |
| 22:16.30 | `Zypher | then why would the not bring the whole distro platform along with it |
| 22:16.34 | Noctys | Aii: Does the libStub have advice on how to make sure the latestest version is the one that loads if it trys more than once? |
| 22:16.36 | `Zypher | ... |
| 22:16.44 | `Zypher | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=source_linux&num=1 |
| 22:17.14 | Aiiane | Noctys: LibStub handles that automatically; when you go to do the "if ..." it will return nil only if the existing version is >= the version you're trying to load |
| 22:17.15 | Thunder_Child | `Zypher, i agree they might do it for their own, however it would be a losing proposition for them to convert everyones |
| 22:17.22 | Noctys | Aii: Disreguard last... Finaly got caught up. Or don't =) |
| 22:17.28 | `Zypher | Thunder_Child: I only play valve games via steam |
| 22:17.36 | Aiiane | basically you do |
| 22:17.36 | `Zypher | so I couldn't care less rofl |
| 22:17.48 | `Zypher | TF2 and CS:S would be my interests |
| 22:17.54 | Aiiane | local myLib = LibStub:NewLibrary("LIBNAME", version) |
| 22:18.03 | Aiiane | if not myLib then return end |
| 22:18.16 | Aiiane | you can also use "local myLib, oldversion =" |
| 22:18.32 | Aiiane | in which case it'll give you the latest version loaded before the one you're currently loaded |
| 22:18.37 | Aiiane | in the oldversion variable |
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| 22:18.51 | Aiiane | so that you could do any backwards-compatibility conversions if necessary |
| 22:19.17 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I has a cookie! |
| 22:19.28 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 22:19.29 | Aiiane | <.< |
| 22:19.46 | Noctys | Aii: Thanks, I'll take a look at. Does the version number have anything to do with what is in the .mod file. I don't want to change that unless the saved variable file needs to change right? |
| 22:19.48 | `Zypher | nooo |
| 22:19.51 | `Zypher | they be stealin my cookie! |
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| 22:21.12 | Aiiane | no, the version number doesn't have anything to do with .mod files |
| 22:21.20 | Aiiane | it's specific to the library |
| 22:22.17 | `Zypher | ~spank `Zypher |
| 22:22.18 | purl | ACTION bends `Zypher over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on `Zypher's pasty white buttocks. |
| 22:22.25 | `Zypher | haha |
| 22:22.31 | `Zypher | hawt |
| 22:22.53 | Noctys | Cool thanks Aii... Back to work... Want it to be embeddable by the end of the week! |
| 22:23.24 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I am sad in the pants |
| 22:23.27 | `Zypher | I got my account back |
| 22:23.32 | `Zypher | but my priest has gone mia! |
| 22:23.42 | `Zypher | aka. was transfered to another account |
| 22:23.45 | `Zypher | so I have to go hunting |
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| 22:30.03 | Noctys | will this work for embedding files so they can all be in their own directory? <File name="LibTargetInfo/LibTargetInfo.lua" /> |
| 22:31.20 | Aiiane | path names in files are relative to the directory of the .mod they're loaded from |
| 22:31.32 | Aiiane | but yes, you can add a folder to the path |
| 22:31.39 | Aiiane | so if it was in kthealer |
| 22:31.53 | Aiiane | then your path would look like "kthealer/LibTargetInfo/LibTargetInfo.lua" |
| 22:32.35 | Noctys | I just figured if I was using it I would want it in it's own folder. |
| 22:32.44 | Noctys | kthealer == Kill The Healer |
| 22:33.54 | Noctys | Aii: "kthealer/LibTargetInfo/LibTargetInfo.lua" even though the other files are just loaded "kthealer.lua" |
| 22:34.10 | Aiiane | no |
| 22:34.16 | Aiiane | I meant that the actual disk path would look like that |
| 22:34.24 | Noctys | ok |
| 22:34.25 | Aiiane | if you put the line you had mentioned in the .mod for kthealer |
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| 22:36.33 | art3mis | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot |
| 22:51.22 | art3mis | Olga Kurylenko is perty |
| 22:57.57 | Aiiane | http://www.aionsource.com/photoplog/index.php?n=178 <-- I like this concept art |
| 23:00.50 | Noctys | Aii: I am thinking of just having them add my main file to their .mod file and then using the loadfile("TargetInfoFix.lua")()... for the other files. Thoughts? |
| 23:01.30 | Aiiane | um, I don't believe you have access to loadfile in WAR Lua... |
| 23:01.50 | Noctys | They do in the testfiles for libStub |
| 23:02.01 | Aiiane | the testfiles were copied over from the WoW version |
| 23:02.11 | Aiiane | I just never deleted them |
| 23:02.14 | Noctys | Oh... Well so much for that idea. |
| 23:02.41 | Aiiane | anywho, I need to run to class, back in a bit perhaps |
| 23:02.49 | Noctys | So the only way to load the .lua files is inside the .mod file |
| 23:02.57 | Noctys | Have fun. =) |
| 23:04.19 | art3mis | http://www.engrish.com//wp-content/uploads/2008/08/fuckintosh.jpg |
| 23:04.35 | Noctys | nice |
| 23:04.38 | art3mis | if swear words arent allowed in yer intratubes thats not safe for work ;) |
| 23:05.21 | art3mis | http://www.engrish.com//wp-content/uploads/2008/08/emergency-provisions.jpg <-- best shirt evah |
| 23:05.47 | nicoli_s | as a rule, 99% of shirts with one liners are never funny |
| 23:05.54 | nicoli_s | .05% are funny one time |
| 23:06.06 | nicoli_s | and the rest are funny every time |
| 23:08.40 | art3mis | go read it |
| 23:08.44 | art3mis | and tell me its not funny |
| 23:09.00 | nicoli_s | i did, no go |
| 23:09.40 | nicoli_s | but i ususally only think shirts that say things that make most people would think are pretty obscene |
| 23:09.41 | art3mis | well then you're a racist |
| 23:09.55 | nicoli_s | nay, my signifcant other is of another race :) |
| 23:10.20 | art3mis | you're the 110m hurdles he's 400m ? |
| 23:10.28 | Noctys | I like the shirt I saw that said: "I'm not racist, I hate everyone!" |
| 23:10.40 | art3mis | ui think eatting babies is funny |
| 23:10.47 | art3mis | and a good source of protien |
| 23:10.47 | nicoli_s | oh yeah |
| 23:10.52 | nicoli_s | dead baby jokes are awesome |
| 23:10.54 | art3mis | nmmmm soylent children |
| 23:11.03 | nicoli_s | i feel ashamed of telling them sometimes but damn i love shocking the fuck out of people |
| 23:11.43 | art3mis | are you a cute little asian that looks 12? |
| 23:12.41 | nicoli_s | not even close |
| 23:13.03 | zarious | cute little azn that looks 14? |
| 23:13.25 | art3mis | do you own a sailormoon outfit? |
| 23:14.25 | art3mis | and if yes, please tell me that you are actually a 6'5 280lb norwegien complete with viking braided bread and sideburns and you have a picture wearing it |
| 23:14.37 | art3mis | cuz that would be pretty awesome |
| 23:15.38 | art3mis | http://i36.tinypic.com/eajo2b.jpg <-- clad needs to go to this |
| 23:15.43 | art3mis | and get me a t-shirt |
| 23:28.11 | Thunder_Child | EX-Wizard huh? impressive |
| 23:31.01 | Aii | I'm totally an ex-sorceress |
| 23:31.07 | Aii | I swear |
| 23:34.57 | Thunder_Child | well you have already cast a spell on `Zypher so i have to agree |
| 23:45.48 | Aii | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/9789/ <-- need |
| 23:47.03 | Aii | alternatively, I wouldn't mind a top with the WAR sorceress concept art on it and a caption like 'the dark side is sexy...' :P |
| 23:47.29 | PenguinOfDoom | sexy and hilariously underpowered! |
| 23:48.01 | PenguinOfDoom | I suppose I should try playing one just to see if it's true |
| 23:49.28 | Aii | um. overall, what it basically works out to is that with a healer, both BWs and sorcs are powerful |
| 23:49.38 | Aii | without a healer, BWs can hold their own slightly better |
| 23:51.09 | PenguinOfDoom | I started stacking wounds over intelligence |
| 23:51.10 | PenguinOfDoom | TANK WIZARD |
| 23:51.27 | Aii | A few sorc counterparts are slightly weaker than their BW mirror spells |
| 23:51.38 | Aii | and thus could use a little reworking |
| 23:51.44 | Aii | but they're both hard-hitters at 40 |
| 23:52.01 | Thunder_Child | Aii, not quite since dot's > stand and cast for the simple reason of having to stand still |
| 23:52.04 | Aii | sorc isn't urgently needing love quite as much as magus is |
| 23:52.23 | PenguinOfDoom | I find it pretty hilarious that sorc silence is a 2 second spell for no reason at all |
| 23:52.58 | Aii | PenguinOfDoom: see Mistress of the Marsh on wardb |
| 23:53.25 | PenguinOfDoom | also, dots are by definition superior to direct damage spells |
| 23:53.37 | PenguinOfDoom | unless you nerf the dot damage to hilariously low levels |
| 23:53.54 | Aii | depends. if you can get direct damage up to a point where it can actually spike people down |
| 23:54.02 | Aii | then in a coordinate group direct damage > dots |
| 23:54.06 | Aii | *coordinated |
| 23:54.38 | Thunder_Child | but now you are requiring things outside of the class itslef |
| 23:54.46 | Thunder_Child | hence the issue |
| 23:54.52 | Aii | meh, depends on your view |
| 23:55.09 | Thunder_Child | you know my view, people are idiots |
| 23:55.18 | Aii | if you require things outside the class itself |
| 23:55.23 | Repo | 10abilityalert: 03Celestian 04vt1 * r10 : Tagging as vt1. |
| 23:55.24 | Aii | then any healing spec is horrid |
| 23:55.32 | Aii | er, require nothing outside the class |
| 23:55.45 | PenguinOfDoom | gooo team shaman! |
| 23:56.04 | Aii | WAR is, by design, a group game |
| 23:56.06 | Thunder_Child | Aii, how so. i can heal through a BW for example |
| 23:56.10 | PenguinOfDoom | also, dots allow you to do multiple things to one target at the same time |
| 23:56.19 | PenguinOfDoom | casting nukes over and over does not |
| 23:56.34 | Thunder_Child | or one thing to multiple targets |
| 23:56.48 | Aii | direct aoe still allows the latter ;) |
| 23:57.08 | Aii | look |
| 23:57.09 | Thunder_Child | but not while moving |
| 23:57.15 | Aii | no one is arguing that the BW doesn't outclass the sorc atm |
| 23:57.18 | Thunder_Child | which is a big issue ion pvp for me |
| 23:57.24 | Aii | I'm just saying they're both viable classes as-is at 40 |
| 23:57.25 | Thunder_Child | s/ion/in/ |
| 23:57.33 | PenguinOfDoom | also! |
| 23:57.36 | PenguinOfDoom | 16:56 < Thunder_Child> Aii, how so. i can heal through a BW for example |
| 23:57.54 | PenguinOfDoom | As in, outheal BW damage? |
| 23:58.38 | Thunder_Child | yes, while still dmging the BW |
| 23:58.48 | PenguinOfDoom | What rank? |
| 23:58.52 | Thunder_Child | however this should be noted that this is not lvl 40 |
| 23:58.58 | Aii | at 40 |
| 23:59.05 | Thunder_Child | 15-20 |
| 23:59.07 | Aii | if you can outheal a BW's damage on yourself, while getting hit by that BW |
| 23:59.09 | Aii | you're doing it wrong |
| 23:59.13 | Aii | er |
| 23:59.16 | Aii | the BW is doing it wrong |
| 23:59.22 | Aii | Playing With Fire > You |
| 23:59.32 | PenguinOfDoom | Thunder_Child: Look up Playing With Fire, Stop Drop and Roll, Slow Boil and Choking Smoke |
| 23:59.43 | Thunder_Child | no, i am lazy |
| 23:59.54 | Aii | suffice to say |
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| 23:59.59 | PenguinOfDoom | Okay. Enjoy not dying while it lasts :) |
