| 00:01.11 | *** join/#waruidev wxef (n=wxef@66.237.5.217) |
| 00:02.04 | netcurse | http://video.aol.com/video/kid-fails-driving-tests/2147902?icid=aimDBDL3_link1-a |
| 00:02.06 | netcurse | hillarous |
| 00:04.42 | DarkTrooper | they said servers come down (US time) "early tm morning" |
| 00:06.55 | DarkTrooper | oh nice, you can see how many are in the queue from the server screen now |
| 00:11.34 | DarkTrooper | i think curse has won the war ui war, there's a grand total of 3 addons on mmoui, and 1 of them is a library :) |
| 00:17.12 | DarkTrooper | well i guess the good part about having a 3am launch time is, when the servers all crash from overpopulation an hour into HS, they should have them fixed and back up for when we all wake up :) |
| 00:23.06 | netcurse | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/orcnzr/ |
| 00:23.11 | netcurse | i m not sure what this project does ;o |
| 00:23.36 | Daegalus | as it states |
| 00:23.39 | Daegalus | it will convert all your chat |
| 00:23.40 | DarkTrooper | yeah i got it |
| 00:23.41 | Daegalus | into orc speak |
| 00:24.03 | Daegalus | So when you type: what is that? it will say: "Wut be dat?" |
| 00:24.08 | DarkTrooper | sorta like that web one that changed pages into 'rap speak' |
| 00:24.40 | netcurse | l |
| 00:24.41 | netcurse | ol |
| 00:27.46 | netcurse | any curse client suggestions? |
| 00:28.11 | DarkTrooper | a 'write my mod' feature, that automates coding whatever mod you want? ^^;; |
| 00:28.35 | netcurse | mm.. |
| 00:28.45 | netcurse | you have aiiane for that |
| 00:28.54 | DarkTrooper | deshou! ^^ |
| 00:29.00 | Itzmattu | That wouldn't actually be all that difficult in C, just very time consuming |
| 00:29.11 | Itzmattu | :P |
| 00:29.23 | Itzmattu | And being able to predict and support EVERYTHING someone would want to do would be difficult |
| 00:29.35 | DarkTrooper | i'd like to see a visual studio addin like wow had, at least for the xml and visual elements, that would be very useful |
| 00:32.56 | netcurse | m |
| 00:33.06 | netcurse | 2% of our users are already using chrome |
| 00:33.20 | DarkTrooper | so 2% of your users are wankers? :) |
| 00:33.26 | netcurse | hehe |
| 00:33.29 | netcurse | i use chrome! |
| 00:33.48 | DarkTrooper | ... i mean early adopters ... >.> |
| 00:34.17 | DarkTrooper | hey net, does the CC autodetect if it needs to update? |
| 00:34.29 | DarkTrooper | or only on CC startup |
| 00:34.44 | Daegalus | i think only on startup atm O.o net can prove me wrong though |
| 00:35.46 | netcurse | every one hour |
| 00:35.49 | netcurse | it checks for update |
| 00:36.02 | DarkTrooper | really? |
| 00:36.05 | netcurse | yep |
| 00:36.21 | DarkTrooper | coz when i was having problems, CC hadn't updated in ages, i restarted it, and it wanted to update |
| 00:36.34 | netcurse | did you get a timer error? |
| 00:36.37 | Daegalus | same here net. i just restarted it and got the updates |
| 00:36.40 | DarkTrooper | nope |
| 00:36.46 | netcurse | mm |
| 00:37.12 | DarkTrooper | how does it handle the update tho? |
| 00:37.22 | netcurse | i don't know about the specific |
| 00:37.24 | DarkTrooper | does it try to auto-execure it? |
| 00:37.25 | netcurse | Kolie does :) |
| 00:37.32 | DarkTrooper | because if it does, it might be failing due to vista |
| 00:37.53 | DarkTrooper | and i ceratinly wouldn't want that stupid UAC popup mid-game as CC wanted to update itself :) |
| 00:38.07 | Daegalus | i have my UAC set to silent |
| 00:38.11 | Daegalus | never gives me a popup |
| 00:38.25 | DarkTrooper | you mean you disable it dae? :) |
| 00:38.31 | Daegalus | no, silent |
| 00:38.33 | Daegalus | its still running |
| 00:38.37 | Daegalus | just never gives me a popup |
| 00:38.46 | DarkTrooper | err, if it's silent, how can it ever ask for admin passwords? |
| 00:39.03 | Daegalus | Mine never asks for admin password |
| 00:39.10 | Daegalus | never did even on normal mode |
| 00:39.20 | Daegalus | it just said "yes or no" |
| 00:40.10 | Daegalus | in Silent, i think it auto-chooses yes, but keeps it in User-Mode. If you want to give it admin right, you have to click the button with the shield on it and if you arent an admin, it asks for a password, if you are an admin account, it just converts to admin mode |
| 00:40.16 | Daegalus | Tweakuac.com |
| 00:40.17 | Daegalus | for more info |
| 00:40.41 | DarkTrooper | yeah but you should never be on the admin account :) |
| 00:40.54 | Daegalus | why not O.o with UAC, its safe to be on admin accounts |
| 00:41.08 | Daegalus | cause everything still runs in usermode |
| 00:41.12 | Daegalus | till yo udo "Run as admin" |
| 00:41.29 | DarkTrooper | everything runs with permissions of whatever account your on |
| 00:41.34 | Daegalus | nope |
| 00:41.36 | Daegalus | not in vitsa |
| 00:41.38 | Daegalus | vitsa |
| 00:41.40 | Daegalus | vista* |
| 00:42.13 | DarkTrooper | i think you'll find your wrong with that :) |
| 00:42.26 | Daegalus | Ive been running on Admin for over a year now on vista, i would know how it works, and how i still have to run 99% of my shit as admin. And I dont mean admin account as in username: "Administrator" i have my own account that is set to admin |
| 00:42.31 | Daegalus | no im not |
| 00:42.39 | DarkTrooper | if you think you're 100% right, get a virus, run it as admin, and see if it only infects user files or admin ones :) |
| 00:42.57 | Shirik | DarkTrooper, you are confusing elevated status with administrative status |
| 00:42.59 | DarkTrooper | yeah well that's still a user account silly |
| 00:43.15 | DarkTrooper | admin = root in nix |
| 00:43.33 | Shirik | This is why UAC-enabled manifests don't request a change of user, they request a change of elevation |
| 00:43.43 | Daegalus | sigh, nvm, this is like explaining Versioning to you |
| 00:43.51 | Daegalus | you just dont seem to get how the system works |
| 00:44.31 | DarkTrooper | well, if it doesnt' work the way i'm thinking it does, then vista and UAC has no purpose |
| 00:44.39 | DarkTrooper | (in security terms) |
| 00:44.41 | Shirik | It has a very good purpose |
| 00:44.44 | Shirik | You just don't know how it works |
| 00:45.05 | Aiiane | @projects war/hovercast |
| 00:45.12 | Aiiane | @project war/hovercast |
| 00:45.12 | Repo | Aiiane: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/hovercast/. HoverCast. Game: WAR. Leader: Aiiane. Updated: 9 minutes ago |
| 00:45.14 | Aiiane | Enjoy |
| 00:45.36 | netcurse | =P |
| 00:45.46 | Daegalus | omg Aiiane <3 <3 <3 <# |
| 00:45.59 | Daegalus | *installs* |
| 00:46.39 | netcurse | http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/Aiiane/ |
| 00:47.15 | Aiiane | wtb more compact "My Projects" section there netcurse :P |
| 00:47.34 | netcurse | bug ckknight |
| 00:47.34 | netcurse | =P |
| 00:47.46 | ckknight | it's happening, actually |
| 00:47.54 | ckknight | we're splitting that page into three |
| 00:48.01 | DarkTrooper | i like how 'Female' is in white, and all the other is grey to make it stand out? :) |
| 00:48.05 | ckknight | it'll be a lot better |
| 00:50.09 | Daegalus | All we need now is to setup Mousebutton casting |
| 00:53.13 | Kolie | hmm |
| 00:53.17 | CokesFTW | could someone throw me a URL or (just tell me) how to do a table insert specifying a string as the key.. my google searchs blow |
| 00:53.28 | Kolie | I miss something? |
| 00:53.41 | netcurse | Kolie, some questions about the client |
| 00:53.45 | netcurse | scroll up a bit |
| 00:54.48 | Kolie | The 2.0.0.5 install fixes the failed updates. You would see a note from UAC though, with err 740 |
| 00:54.55 | Kolie | If it applied to you. |
| 00:54.58 | Kolie | It checks every hour. |
| 00:55.28 | Kolie | Im wrong actually, all you need is a new client for updates to work . |
| 00:55.33 | Kolie | Not the entire setup. |
| 00:55.35 | Aiiane | Daegalus: not going to happen |
| 00:56.03 | Aiiane | CokesFTW: tablename[tablekey] = value |
| 00:56.26 | Aiiane | x[y] is equivalent to x.y |
| 00:56.31 | Aiiane | er |
| 00:56.35 | Aiiane | x["y"] is equivalent to x.y |
| 00:57.13 | CokesFTW | yah thanks |
| 00:57.16 | CokesFTW | i was doing that |
| 00:57.28 | CokesFTW | but when i checked #tablename the result = 0 |
| 00:57.48 | netcurse | damn i need to install that addon that play sound when you get whispers |
| 00:57.52 | netcurse | i missed a few whispers today |
| 00:58.36 | Daegalus | I need an addon that launches a CD into my face whenever i get a whisper |
| 01:01.01 | DarkTrooper | ooh ooh tax collector, flaked by two 40 champs -_- |
| 01:02.52 | *** join/#waruidev Brainiac1000 (n=a@CN-ESR1-74-215-157-214.fuse.net) |
| 01:03.06 | Brainiac1000 | Blarg stupid nickserv |
| 01:03.41 | Aiiane | CokesFTW: the # operator only counts the number of integer keys |
| 01:04.27 | DarkTrooper | people gorging the market already, and it's only OB |
| 01:04.43 | Brainiac1000 | Aiiane I have to ask you something, how do you have time to do as many mods as you do? Metahud is killing me as is by itself X_X. |
| 01:08.45 | CokesFTW | ahhh tyvm |
| 01:10.45 | Aiiane | Brainiac1000: efficiency? :) |
| 01:11.04 | Aiiane | that, and multitasking ^^ |
| 01:11.37 | Brainiac1000 | between work, gf, playing a bit, and the mod my time is gone right now lol |
| 01:11.59 | DarkTrooper | Aii is a chick, and thus her brain ponders multiple things at once, that's how |
| 01:12.29 | Brainiac1000 | Ha, girls are better at multitasking |
| 01:13.50 | DarkTrooper | ya, but they're not good at focing their attention on something, and thus guys generally make things better... ^^;; |
| 01:14.43 | Brainiac1000 | So my one mod should be better than all of hers! (looks at download counts) Son of a bitch! |
| 01:15.31 | DarkTrooper | when it's all done and pretty it will be :) |
| 01:16.01 | DarkTrooper | anyone who used a hud will want it, they're somuch better than even movable unit frames |
| 01:17.12 | netcurse | BTW, curse download counts are buged, you can triple them |
| 01:17.21 | Aiiane | ~lart DarkTrooper |
| 01:17.21 | purl | pushes the wall down onto DarkTrooper whilst whistling innocently |
| 01:17.45 | Brainiac1000 | Woo! I'm more popular than I thought! |
| 01:17.53 | DarkTrooper | does updates to mods count for the download # as well? |
| 01:17.58 | netcurse | auto loot on curse says 589 downloads |
| 01:18.08 | DarkTrooper | as aii released nearly two updates a day :) |
| 01:18.08 | netcurse | let me check what analytics says |
| 01:18.26 | netcurse | and the download counts are not counting clients downloads also |
| 01:19.02 | Brainiac1000 | Also I take it that the updating from curseforge is a bit slower tonight than normal? Or is it just the fact that I usually update at midnight EDT? |
| 01:19.31 | Aiiane | the updating from curseforge -> curse.com is just slow in general right now |
| 01:19.44 | Aiiane | as soon as the new Curse.com codebase rolls out (on the 18th) it should be a lot faster |
| 01:19.55 | netcurse | it will take 2 minutes |
| 01:19.55 | Aiiane | curseforge -> curse client is very fast, though |
| 01:19.56 | netcurse | max |
| 01:20.13 | Aiiane | curseforge -> curse client is basically what curseforge -> curse.com will be after the codebase change |
| 01:20.15 | Brainiac1000 | O_o Much better than now. I'll look forward to that |
| 01:20.40 | netcurse | i have 1026 downloads recorded on google analytics yesterday |
| 01:20.49 | netcurse | for auto loot |
| 01:21.17 | Brainiac1000 | Wow! |
| 01:21.44 | netcurse | let me see for you Brainiac :0 |
| 01:21.51 | Brainiac1000 | XD Please do. |
| 01:21.53 | DarkTrooper | hang on, how does that work net? what about people that disable that script? |
| 01:23.49 | netcurse | i see 130 download on metahud but 3800 view, i would guess because it was featured on WHA |
| 01:24.14 | netcurse | darktrooper it's just me hacking on our analytics stats, the new curse is accurate in page views counts |
| 01:24.55 | DarkTrooper | oh i get that, but if people have google analytics blocked, and views soemthign etc, does it still register there? |
| 01:25.01 | Brainiac1000 | I'll take that for a new mod like mine that's missing features |
| 01:25.39 | netcurse | Darktrooper, no, but GA is not blocked very often. The old or new code is not relaying on 3rd party anyway |
| 01:25.44 | Aiiane | AutoLoot... such a simple addon, yet so popular :) |
| 01:25.57 | netcurse | i am relaying on GW right now, because our old code is not working :) |
| 01:26.01 | DarkTrooper | really? most people i know blow GA :) |
| 01:26.19 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: most people you know != the general populace |
| 01:26.20 | DarkTrooper | block* |
| 01:26.25 | DarkTrooper | well yeah true |
| 01:26.25 | Brainiac1000 | Same with that Action bar color mod that you made, that's a must have in my opinion |
| 01:26.29 | Aiiane | most people you know probably aren't myspace whores either |
| 01:26.40 | Aiiane | but that doesn't mean there aren't millions of myspace whores |
| 01:26.56 | DarkTrooper | but on the wow forums many many people indicated they did as well |
| 01:26.59 | Brainiac1000 | WoW forums... yeah that's a good place to get info |
| 01:27.06 | netcurse | =P |
| 01:27.20 | DarkTrooper | you know what i mean tho, it has a larger userbase posting |
| 01:29.06 | netcurse | we use 3 different trackers as 3 rd party |
| 01:29.06 | Daegalus | w00t my addon is on the top 20 for downloads today |
| 01:29.22 | netcurse | the one blocked the most is Nielsen :) |
| 01:30.18 | DarkTrooper | hmm, i'm only showing yous running 'imworldwide' and GA |
| 01:30.47 | netcurse | on what site? |
| 01:30.55 | DarkTrooper | war.curse.com |
| 01:31.18 | netcurse | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.27 | netcurse | SmartAdServer |
| 01:31.33 | netcurse | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.36 | netcurse | 3 :) |
| 01:34.14 | netcurse | nielsen will go away |
| 01:34.17 | DarkTrooper | altdorf seems, mmm, kinda lame as a city :) |
| 01:34.18 | netcurse | in a few days |
| 01:34.55 | netcurse | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 01:35.00 | netcurse | it's been a while |
| 01:35.01 | netcurse | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1485820#post1485820 |
| 01:35.14 | Daegalus | i find Inevitable city too crowded with killable mobs |
| 01:35.33 | netcurse | who answer this thread =P |
| 01:35.38 | DarkTrooper | at least it doesn't look like one big slum :) |
| 01:35.58 | Brainiac1000 | I almost did, but eh don't feed the trolls |
| 01:36.50 | DarkTrooper | yeah i'm resisting |
| 01:39.46 | Daegalus | I already answered |
| 01:39.51 | Daegalus | my WHA nam eis Ayetalam |
| 01:39.59 | Daegalus | since i got Daegalus banned :D xD |
| 01:40.03 | netcurse | lol |
| 01:40.05 | netcurse | gj |
| 01:40.16 | Daegalus | eh this was back during hte whole Dark Elf Healer war of lore |
| 01:40.24 | netcurse | :D |
| 01:41.00 | Daegalus | i had use Tor to get around the IP ban, then i contacted Garth asking him kindly to unban me because i showed him that i could do it without getting banned, and he unbanned my IP |
| 01:41.27 | netcurse | =) |
| 01:41.47 | netcurse | no worry |
| 01:42.06 | netcurse | i used to be a forum warrior |
| 01:42.10 | netcurse | on french boards |
| 01:42.40 | Daegalus | hehe, no i just never could get why people could get so uptight about the lore. "ZOMG HE IS WEARING THE WRONG SHADE OF GREEN, LORE BREAK, GAME FAILS!" |
| 01:43.31 | DarkTrooper | you have to remember people who are into warhammer lore, are fanatics really, most of them have been following something for 20 years |
| 01:44.02 | Brainiac1000 | There's some lore that makes sense to follow, but let's be honest, a fair amount of it is made to be bent |
| 01:44.04 | VonhintenHOME` | I just wish they'd rename Wounds to Hit points like every SANE game |
| 01:44.06 | DarkTrooper | it's like if they released another starwars movie, and isntead of using a lightsabre, they gave them a boom box for a dance off or something |
| 01:45.01 | Brainiac1000 | That's a bit different than some of this stuff. As long as you leave the skeleton of the series, you can flesh it out with your own interpretation imho |
| 01:45.41 | DarkTrooper | i'm not a lore person myself, but i can see how they can get uptight being so fanatical as lore people typically are |
| 01:45.56 | Daegalus | VonhintenHOME`: Wound = Stamina in most games. |
| 01:46.57 | DarkTrooper | yeah their name for stats still throw me off, except for wound strangly, probably because it's so bizzare |
| 01:47.08 | Aiiane | well |
| 01:47.13 | VonhintenHOME` | Fine, Wound=Constitution, or Wound=Stamina either works for me |
| 01:47.21 | Aiiane | wounds is a holdover from the actual warhammer tabletop game |
| 01:47.46 | Aiiane | so it's really you throw off one group of players (people who've played other MMOs) or you throw off another (people who played Warhammer) |
| 01:49.43 | DarkTrooper | yeah i assumed as much Aii, people will get used to it |
| 01:50.09 | DarkTrooper | has anyone here played the tabletop? |
| 01:50.13 | Aiiane | alright, dinnertime |
| 01:50.14 | Aiiane | bbl |
| 01:50.18 | Aiiane | my little brother does |
| 01:50.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd take constitution over stamina actually.. since blizzard has already used stamina for endurance in Diablo |
| 01:51.06 | VonhintenHOME` | Game developers... get on the same page for christ sake |
| 01:55.31 | ghostfish | no |
| 01:55.48 | ghostfish | I like different better |
| 01:55.56 | ghostfish | since they actually do different things |
| 01:56.10 | Shirik | Aiiane: Did you guys get attacked too? |
| 01:56.15 | Shirik | I noticed you're +rR |
| 01:56.27 | DarkTrooper | attacked? |
| 01:56.45 | Shirik | several mmo-related channels have been getting hit by a spam bot lately |
| 01:57.05 | DarkTrooper | gold spam or what? |
| 01:57.11 | Shirik | just random crap |
| 01:57.18 | DarkTrooper | wonder why |
| 01:57.26 | Shirik | I think I know why, but not going to get into that right now :) |
| 02:00.27 | netcurse | http://www.xfire.com/games/who/Warhammer_Online_Age_of_Reckoning/ |
| 02:00.31 | netcurse | http://www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ |
| 02:01.49 | DarkTrooper | lol @ the aoc clip that has nearly 900 hits :) |
| 02:02.26 | CokesFTW | what location do SavedVariables get saved to? |
| 02:03.23 | DarkTrooper | <wardir>\user\interface\AllCharacters\<mod> (i think) |
| 02:05.04 | CokesFTW | ahh ty... |
| 02:05.22 | netcurse | it does look like WAR has a small impact on wow http://www.xfire.com/games/wow/World_of_Warcraft/ |
| 02:05.48 | DarkTrooper | how do you figure that net? |
| 02:06.14 | netcurse | mm nvm, the drop is probably kids going back to school :) |
| 02:06.16 | netcurse | during the week |
| 02:06.36 | ghostfish | agreed |
| 02:06.42 | ghostfish | school, not WAR |
| 02:07.04 | netcurse | we ll see in 1 month |
| 02:07.06 | ghostfish | also, variations in line with a flat moving average does not a trend make |
| 02:07.12 | ghostfish | see: global warming |
| 02:10.31 | Kolie | damn grox took out my planet :( |
| 02:16.58 | VonhintenHOME` | They did just send out another round of beta invites... I found it pretty funny that after a week of not logging in, I got a WotLK beta invite.. |
| 02:17.03 | VonhintenHOME` | It's having SOME impact |
| 02:17.26 | CokesFTW | is there a way to flush your variables to savedVariables so that htey dont get wiped when you do a /reloadui?? |
| 02:21.39 | Thrae | Hmmm interesting |
| 02:28.11 | *** join/#waruidev Kolie (n=kraft@72.146.1.103) |
| 02:34.37 | wxef | netcurse, i noticed a warcraft commercial the other day seemed kinda coincidental right when war open beta started |
| 02:36.46 | *** join/#waruidev danboo (n=chatzill@adsl-074-166-043-027.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:37.09 | DarkTrooper | nah they don't need that, those that don't like war, or suck at it in the first month, will jump back to wrath anyway |
| 02:37.30 | ghostfish | wow advertises? |
| 02:37.36 | ghostfish | why bother lol |
| 02:37.40 | ghostfish | everyone knows about it |
| 02:37.58 | ghostfish | when does roflking drop anyway? |
| 02:37.58 | DarkTrooper | knowing about it != playing it |
| 02:38.12 | DarkTrooper | probably around nov |
| 02:38.15 | ghostfish | advertising = telling peopple so they know, not making them play |
| 02:38.44 | DarkTrooper | the more you advertise, the more inclined people are to use your service, unless they are explicitly against it |
| 02:38.52 | wxef | wrath is horrible, nonstop quest forEVER fest, i started and i pretty much went "ehh this is not fun" |
| 02:40.54 | DarkTrooper | that's the thing tho wrath is about questing, it's a pve game realy |
| 02:40.59 | DarkTrooper | and it's very good at it |
| 02:41.21 | DarkTrooper | tho it could learn a thing or two from war's questing :) |
| 02:43.08 | wxef | warhammer's questing i don't even mind that much, it's easy and usually straight forward, plus they mix in the pq's as well as being able to que for scenario's from anywhere, they did it the right way :) |
| 02:43.29 | DarkTrooper | you just sound like a pvp is everything sort of person |
| 02:43.47 | wxef | not really, i really like raiding |
| 02:43.47 | DarkTrooper | and no, wow won't suit that playstyle |
| 02:44.00 | wxef | but i hate wow pve questing with a passion |
| 02:44.09 | DarkTrooper | i liked it's questing :) |
| 02:44.27 | DarkTrooper | i never got into a raiding guild as they're all elitest pricks, so i just rerolled toons to 70 :) |
| 02:44.29 | wxef | really? wow i don't meet many people that actually like the questing |
| 02:45.03 | wxef | ah, see i was a priest, so i got into a guild really easily and got all geared out cuz i showed up everyday |
| 02:45.07 | wxef | what toons did you play? |
| 02:45.08 | DarkTrooper | there's some absolutely retarded things about it's questing, ie spiders with no legs.. wtf? but in gernal it was good |
| 02:45.42 | DarkTrooper | i never got to endgame with the rest of the crowd because i was kinda an alt-a-holic :) |
| 02:46.02 | DarkTrooper | so by the time i got someone to 60/70 everyone's way past the starter stages, and no one want to go back :) |
| 02:46.56 | DarkTrooper | BC was even worse, no one would do normal 5 mans, but expected you to have all epics to do heroics ... |
| 02:47.11 | DarkTrooper | as i said, my server was effing retarded |
| 02:47.59 | wxef | lol i always said when i used to play that game that i wished their was like an adult only server |
| 02:48.09 | Aiiane | it'd be just as bad |
| 02:48.16 | DarkTrooper | ya ia gree with Aii |
| 02:48.33 | Aiiane | most of the people who seem like "kids" are actually adults (at least, in terms of date-of-birth) |
| 02:48.42 | Aiiane | but many adults are surprisingly childish |
| 02:48.54 | wxef | yea, i agree with that, now that i think about it |
| 02:49.29 | DarkTrooper | the PA comic captured it perfectly i thought |
| 02:50.14 | DarkTrooper | this one http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/ |
| 02:50.21 | Thrae | Hmm, do I need to convert GetString() to wstrings? |
| 02:50.45 | Daegalus | StringToWstring() |
| 02:50.57 | Daegalus | StringToWString() |
| 02:51.00 | Daegalus | i think thats the one |
| 02:51.20 | Thrae | Yeah that's the function, but isn't GetString used on their own localization code? |
| 02:52.07 | Thrae | Or is something like StringTables.Default.LABEL_RENOWN_POINTS already a WString, so it needs to be converted. |
| 02:53.49 | Thrae | Yeah, it looks like anything in StringTables is a WString, so GetString() converts that into a Lua string. |
| 02:54.43 | Thrae | OK, nevermind. I can just use wstring.format for this. |
| 02:56.13 | MoronWar | <- Legally an adult but act like I'm 13. |
| 02:56.30 | MoronWar | I'm currently masturbating, just to prove that point. |
| 02:56.57 | DarkTrooper | Aii would be intersted in pics or video of that imo ^^;; |
| 02:57.12 | MoronWar | I got the camera right next to me. |
| 02:57.36 | DarkTrooper | tho to save the rest of us, probably make use of the private message facility :) |
| 02:57.41 | MoronWar | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/242067.html <- Me in my underwear (seriously). |
| 02:59.20 | DarkTrooper | deserved, but probably worth it :) |
| 02:59.26 | MoronWar | I think that was an insult to me. |
| 03:00.27 | MoronWar | So I don't think my guild is going to use my addon, so maybe I should just post it to curse :) |
| 03:00.39 | DarkTrooper | what's it about/for? |
| 03:01.00 | MoronWar | Focus Fire. You can set up a MA and they can call targets and anyone else can then auto (or not auto) target them. |
| 03:01.19 | MoronWar | Big letters, KILL -> MORON. |
| 03:01.35 | DarkTrooper | lol, i can hear the WHA pickforks already |
| 03:01.47 | MoronWar | Hehe. |
| 03:02.04 | MoronWar | Works over /war or /sc (for now). Works very well i might say :) |
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| 03:02.57 | MoronWar | I mean, it probably only is a certain amount of time before others make it, or leak mine, right? |
| 03:03.40 | DarkTrooper | that's a fair statement |
| 03:04.39 | DarkTrooper | hey can you call /target <enemy> from mods? |
| 03:05.19 | MoronWar | If you know their name, yes. |
| 03:05.53 | DarkTrooper | i'm assumign your using channels to ferry the info around to have other clients autotarget x? |
| 03:06.36 | MoronWar | Si. /war or /sc for now. |
| 03:06.59 | Aiiane | MoronWar: I would have made it if you hadn't |
| 03:07.10 | DarkTrooper | i'm not familiar wiht the /war one? |
| 03:07.18 | Aiiane | warband |
| 03:07.18 | MoronWar | warband. |
| 03:07.22 | Aiiane | aka /wb |
| 03:07.23 | DarkTrooper | oh right |
| 03:07.45 | MoronWar | I click, create new project and it spits me back to that screen, no error. Any idea what I could be doing wrong on curseforge? |
| 03:08.08 | Aiiane | look through the actual fields |
| 03:08.17 | Aiiane | sometimes the error messages aren't that obvious |
| 03:08.21 | Aiiane | I missed one, one time |
| 03:08.22 | MoronWar | got it, capital letters in short name |
| 03:14.37 | Aiiane | er... as much as im flattered was that description really necessary :S |
| 03:14.53 | MoronWar | Half of my project is your code. |
| 03:15.01 | MoronWar | So I would say, yes. |
| 03:17.03 | MoronWar | Maybe for the next version I'll clean up the code. I always got points off for no comments and horrible variable names :) |
| 03:18.35 | MoronWar | All I had to do was post there right? After it gets approved it will go to curse.com, right? |
| 03:20.10 | Aiiane | I already approved it |
| 03:20.26 | Aiiane | the sync to curse.com is slow atm, it'll get better in a week or so |
| 03:20.37 | Aiiane | but it's already available on the curse client |
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| 03:21.52 | MoronWar | Hah, awesome. Thanks! |
| 03:35.42 | Aiiane | oh, MoronWar |
| 03:35.43 | Aiiane | just a note |
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| 03:36.04 | Aiiane | you could probable save some code |
| 03:36.21 | Aiiane | instead of watching the targetupdated event and then storing the current target, and then using the stored version |
| 03:36.34 | Aiiane | why not just use TargetInfo:UnitName("selffriendlytarget") |
| 03:36.42 | Aiiane | or TargetInfo:UnitName("selfhostiletarget") |
| 03:37.04 | Aiiane | i.e. RevKTHOptions.calledkill = TargetInfo:UnitName("selfhostiletarget") |
| 03:38.08 | MoronWar | Hold, on, just got back, let me read what you wrote. |
| 03:38.43 | MoronWar | Ahh, I see what your saying, I'm, not sure. Probably from my copying out of TargetLast I did that. |
| 03:39.03 | MoronWar | The calledkill is the current target, so why should it constantly update the variable if that is the target. |
| 03:39.07 | Aiiane | also |
| 03:39.39 | Aiiane | there's a much more efficient way to grab the called target name |
| 03:40.03 | MoronWar | I'm horrible a string.find ( HEAL TARGET (.) ) or whatever. |
| 03:40.10 | MoronWar | I could never do those. |
| 03:41.02 | Aiiane | calledname = (GameData.ChatData.text):match(L"KILL TARGET --> ([a-zA-Z ]+).*") |
| 03:42.01 | MoronWar | Look how helpfull you are, and you question the worshipping. |
| 03:46.51 | MoronWar | Ok, night night for me, thanks for all your help Aiiane! |
| 03:48.01 | Aiiane | you're welcome, anytime |
| 03:51.05 | Aiiane | and im headed out for the evening |
| 03:51.06 | Aiiane | bbl :) |
| 03:54.25 | Thrae | Hmmm. Does WAR have colour codes? |
| 03:55.34 | Thrae | Can one label have different colours? Hmmm. |
| 03:56.07 | VonhintenHOME` | Ok, does Mythic really think they're going live with the dungeon mechanics the way they are? |
| 03:56.23 | netcurse | what s the mechanics? |
| 03:56.26 | DarkTrooper | yeah almost no one knows about them, and even less care :) |
| 03:56.38 | VonhintenHOME` | Me and 3 friends trying to do Sellecum Dungeon in Inevitable City.. the tank can't keep agro on 1 mob, let alone 3 champs... |
| 03:56.46 | netcurse | lol |
| 03:56.48 | VonhintenHOME` | they hit for a fucking ton, so the healer gets immediate agro |
| 03:56.58 | netcurse | that sounds like dark age |
| 03:56.59 | netcurse | :) |
| 03:57.06 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, it does.. only it's worse |
| 03:57.14 | Thrae | VonhintenHOME`: Healer using Subtley + HoTs? |
| 03:57.32 | VonhintenHOME` | DAoC was all about throwing tons of people at tough shit, and just ressing a bunch... |
| 03:57.44 | netcurse | i m hoping that mythic will do a lot of pve content still between PQ and dungeons, to keep people in the long term |
| 03:57.50 | netcurse | hah yha |
| 03:57.57 | netcurse | i remember our tuscaran raids |
| 03:58.05 | netcurse | mad zerg |
| 03:58.24 | netcurse | or SM + focus specs to reverse dmg |
| 03:58.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Oh yeah, and get this, there are 3 entrances to this dungeon, each one is a different level to start... if you zone out of the level 13 one.. you zone out of the 17 one... |
| 03:58.28 | netcurse | and everyone healing the pets ;) |
| 03:58.38 | VonhintenHOME` | so you zone in and try to run back to where you were, and run into mobs |
| 04:01.03 | VonhintenHOME` | How is a tank supposed to keep agro in this game |
| 04:01.29 | VonhintenHOME` | you guard one person, another one pulls agro (a healer/dps combo) |
| 04:01.30 | netcurse | is needs to out dps the dps |
| 04:01.31 | netcurse | HAHAH |
| 04:01.41 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, apparently, which isn't possible |
| 04:02.01 | DarkTrooper | well tbo, i don't think many dungeons got tested real hevily ;) |
| 04:02.22 | netcurse | the first dungeon was focus tested |
| 04:02.26 | netcurse | and people were happy about it |
| 04:02.32 | netcurse | so maybe we are missing something ) |
| 04:02.37 | VonhintenHOME` | which dungeon is the first? |
| 04:02.49 | VonhintenHOME` | This is the first dungeon I've run into |
| 04:02.53 | DarkTrooper | probably yous :) |
| 04:03.11 | VonhintenHOME` | if people were happy with this dungeon, they were probably on the happy sauce at the time |
| 04:03.13 | netcurse | yeah |
| 04:03.44 | DarkTrooper | or were all on vent, and optimal specs etc |
| 04:03.51 | DarkTrooper | or already had awesome gear |
| 04:04.32 | netcurse | http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeon |
| 04:20.37 | Thrae | Hmmm, I'm trying to find a good stock texture to use for a Level indicator. Anyone know of one? |
| 04:22.17 | netcurse | we need KTM for war |
| 04:22.21 | netcurse | or omen |
| 04:22.21 | netcurse | :) |
| 04:22.50 | Daegalus | no, we dont |
| 04:23.00 | Daegalus | I dont need more DoKs trying to top damage meters |
| 04:23.01 | netcurse | ;) |
| 04:23.12 | Thrae | Yeah, that's going to be very difficult with the tools we have right now. But I think there's also a basic problem with the tanks' ability to increase their own threat. |
| 04:24.43 | netcurse | BRB! |
| 04:25.29 | wxef | Aiiane, (or anyone else that might know) I noticed in a mod that creates a button they inherit EA_Button_DefaultResizeable in the .xml file, where the heck do you find "EA_Button_DefaultResizeable" or other types of buttons I can inherit |
| 04:26.16 | wxef | I want to inherit whatever the deathwindow button is using |
| 04:39.29 | `Zypher | grep -R DeathWindow default |
| 04:41.49 | `Zypher | http://waruidev.pastey.net/96023 |
| 04:42.11 | `Zypher | that should have everything you need about the respawn button |
| 04:42.30 | wxef | oh wow thanks a lot, really appreciate that |
| 04:43.01 | `Zypher | bwahhaa |
| 04:43.09 | `Zypher | I should make an "AutoRespawn" addon |
| 04:43.11 | `Zypher | lulz |
| 04:44.04 | `Zypher | bwahahaha |
| 04:48.23 | DarkTrooper | `Zypher: you need to finish the one you're currently doign before you start another :) |
| 04:52.12 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: but I'm getting annoyed with this |
| 04:52.13 | `Zypher | lol |
| 04:52.20 | Thrae | What's a good event to use for items that need to be populated by the server, like your Career? |
| 04:52.35 | Thrae | s#items#data# |
| 04:53.19 | thanners|afk | interesting.. I use at-symbols for that. :P </inane comment> |
| 05:18.31 | Thrae | Hmmm I never realized this, but I can't use addons on my Vista machine. |
| 05:18.57 | DarkTrooper | why? |
| 05:19.42 | Thrae | I...don't know? I'm trying to change my paths now to see if they're using full paths (evil). |
| 05:24.08 | Thrae | Yeah, this is odd. Have I been hallucinating that I can use addons in Open Beta on XP? |
| 05:24.43 | Thrae | Hmmm, maybe permissions... |
| 05:25.03 | DarkTrooper | err, addons don't execute so there should be no permissions for anything |
| 05:25.10 | Thrae | Nah, I already have the permissions set. |
| 05:25.15 | Thrae | I did it just in case. |
| 05:25.24 | Thrae | I meant for the entire WarBeta folder. |
| 05:25.32 | DarkTrooper | do they show up in the UI Mod window? |
| 05:25.41 | Thrae | Nope |
| 05:25.57 | DarkTrooper | are they in the right directory? |
| 05:26.19 | Thrae | C:\Program Files (x86)\WarBeta\Interface\AddOns |
| 05:26.30 | DarkTrooper | there's your problem |
| 05:26.40 | DarkTrooper | take it out of program files |
| 05:27.07 | DarkTrooper | never put games in program files, haha |
| 05:27.14 | Thrae | That's where binaries are suppose to go in Windows. |
| 05:27.44 | DarkTrooper | ya, but games are a tad more sensitive to this shit, and vista protects that dir |
| 05:28.17 | Thrae | Like I said, I already reset the permissions on the folder itself. |
| 05:28.39 | DarkTrooper | when you run the war patcher, you get UAC wanting input? |
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| 05:29.48 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: That happens if I put it in C:\ too. |
| 05:30.22 | Shirik | Thrae, you can add a UAC manifest if you want to |
| 05:30.35 | Shirik | there actually should be one built-in already, you just need to modify it slightly |
| 05:31.49 | Thrae | I don't think this is a problem with Mythic's use of UAC, but let's see. |
| 05:34.06 | Thrae | Yeah, my version of warpatch.exe requires UAC, and I don't see a manifest file I can modify. |
| 05:39.32 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: For UI Mod window, you mean the UI Debug Window, right? |
| 05:39.48 | DarkTrooper | no i mean the mod window |
| 05:40.37 | Thrae | Wait, maybe it's because I've up for 12 hours... |
| 05:40.59 | Thrae | I mean, up for 18 hours |
| 05:41.18 | Thrae | Nevermind how long I've been up |
| 05:41.23 | `Zypher | yay chkdsk |
| 05:41.32 | `Zypher | you saved my life! |
| 05:44.01 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: I'm not sure which window you're talking about |
| 05:46.40 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: Oh, wait |
| 05:48.58 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: Yeah, that button isn't showing up on Vista 64. |
| 05:50.12 | Thrae | Hmm, the addons made settings files under user/interface/AllCharacters... |
| 05:51.59 | `Zypher | Thrae: what button on v64? |
| 05:52.12 | Thrae | `Zypher: UIModWindow |
| 05:53.08 | `Zypher | theres a button for it? |
| 05:55.27 | Thrae | `Zypher: The button that manages your installed addons. |
| 05:56.38 | `Zypher | yes |
| 05:56.44 | `Zypher | but since when was there a button for it? |
| 05:57.02 | Thrae | `Zypher: How do you get it to show? |
| 05:58.22 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.23 | `Zypher | ? |
| 06:05.55 | Thrae | I'm logged in |
| 06:06.07 | Thrae | `Zypher: OK, that works. I should make a slash command for that. |
| 06:06.34 | Thrae | Anyway, the UI Mod Window shows the addons, but they're not actually appearing on the screen. |
| 06:08.52 | `Zypher | hmm |
| 06:08.52 | `Zypher | wierd |
| 06:10.35 | Thrae | CUF should just appear by itself, right? |
| 06:11.55 | `Zypher | ya |
| 06:14.27 | DarkTrooper | CUF required libslash, if that's not installed CUF won't appear :) |
| 06:15.03 | DarkTrooper | but if they arn't showing on the screen i'd say there's some bogus xml settings around, due to screen size difference |
| 06:15.09 | DarkTrooper | did you just copy/past from one machine to another? |
| 06:16.46 | Thrae | Oops, didn't copy over LibSlash |
| 06:17.55 | Thrae | Odd, that should show up as an error in the UI Debug Window |
| 06:18.17 | DarkTrooper | ya probably should |
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| 06:18.27 | DarkTrooper | do you see the window outline thingies on the UI layout editor? |
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| 06:19.01 | DarkTrooper | wow, that's ominous, net and Cairenn joins at the same time |
| 06:19.30 | Cairenn | heh, why? NeT and I get along just fine |
| 06:19.43 | DarkTrooper | yeah, abit of cross site action going on eh ;) |
| 06:21.33 | Thrae | It's true -- NeT is really a bot Cairenn made that went out of control. She blames the AI that was designed at France Le Institute of Technology. Cairenn is powerless to stop the bot, which still runs on her machine. |
| 06:21.50 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:22.12 | DarkTrooper | more effort spent on fixing your problems, less on bizzario scenarios? :) |
| 06:22.52 | `Zypher | ping |
| 06:23.14 | `Zypher | anyone there? |
| 06:23.20 | DarkTrooper | everyone |
| 06:23.23 | `Zypher | k |
| 06:23.30 | `Zypher | my intarwebs went out for a sec |
| 06:23.30 | netcurse | nobody |
| 06:23.30 | `Zypher | lol |
| 06:23.39 | `Zypher | netcurse: take your pants off now. |
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| 06:26.36 | netcurse | i don't live in the castro :) |
| 06:26.44 | DarkTrooper | man so much QQ over the HS, people need to get over it, seriously |
| 06:27.03 | `Zypher | who is qQing? |
| 06:27.11 | DarkTrooper | *everyone* it seems |
| 06:27.15 | `Zypher | whoo? |
| 06:27.32 | DarkTrooper | EU people, US people (LOTS of eu people), a few au (but not many) |
| 06:27.40 | DarkTrooper | lots of us rahter |
| 06:27.54 | `Zypher | about what? |
| 06:27.56 | netcurse | when are servers going own |
| 06:28.26 | DarkTrooper | servers should be going down any time now, HS is starting 1pm EDT (US) |
| 06:28.44 | DarkTrooper | people are QQing they pushed it back like 6 hours for moroe updates or something |
| 06:29.06 | DarkTrooper | the only people that have any right to QQ are the oceanics, and most of them couldn't care less, lol |
| 06:31.42 | Thrae | Alright, there's nothing wrong with my Vista64 system loading addons. I just forgot LibSlash for the addons I was using. As for my own addon...well, it's an addon made by me, so that's probably why it's not showing up. |
| 06:31.56 | DarkTrooper | lol |
| 06:32.03 | DarkTrooper | that was like what, an hour of debugging? |
| 06:32.05 | DarkTrooper | two maybe? :) |
| 06:32.50 | netcurse | i'll only start to play WAR when the wow 3.0 patch is released |
| 06:32.53 | Thrae | Like I said, I'm tired |
| 06:33.09 | netcurse | ma stress right now for us to get things ready for that patch, so we are not down 3 days like 2 years ago.. |
| 06:33.10 | DarkTrooper | heh fair enough Thrae, i'm just diggin ;) |
| 06:33.14 | netcurse | mad* |
| 06:33.40 | DarkTrooper | site looks pretty good to me net |
| 06:33.54 | DarkTrooper | only thing that can go wrong is, when you move to the more powerful servers, things break ^^ |
| 06:34.27 | netcurse | we are changing all our architecture |
| 06:34.31 | netcurse | this week :p |
| 06:34.36 | DarkTrooper | and really, who cares about wow anymore, war is out ;) |
| 06:36.27 | netcurse | new mod : http://war.curseforge.com/projects/abilityalert/ |
| 06:37.07 | netcurse | 15 new addons just today, we need a bot ckknight |
| 06:37.21 | DarkTrooper | all these little mods that will get eaten up when the real SCT is released |
| 06:39.10 | DarkTrooper | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/selftarget/ |
| 06:39.15 | DarkTrooper | i don't get the point of that one? |
| 06:39.24 | ghostfish | SCT? |
| 06:39.45 | DarkTrooper | Scrolling Combat Text |
| 06:41.58 | `Zypher | what SCT? |
| 06:42.01 | ghostfish | so an improvement on the stock feature basically to make it more like the addons that implement it in WoW? |
| 06:42.23 | DarkTrooper | grey is apparenly doing up a proper SCT like was done for wow |
| 06:42.35 | `Zypher | mhmm hope he's having fun with that |
| 06:45.13 | ghostfish | I'd imagine he's not, but it's definitely good to do |
| 06:45.32 | DarkTrooper | yeah, war definitely needs it |
| 06:45.48 | ghostfish | meh, dunno about needing it |
| 06:46.03 | DarkTrooper | the current system is too hard to read, the text is tiny |
| 06:46.14 | ghostfish | if you have hp bars, scrolling text isn't necessary, but I do like seeing how hard abilities hit in real time |
| 06:46.40 | pewpewarrows | I'm still hammering out the wow algorithm for popping in outgoing damage over the target name |
| 06:47.07 | pewpewarrows | crits "pop-in" and "stick" in place |
| 06:47.17 | pewpewarrows | something nice and reactive |
| 06:47.53 | DarkTrooper | i also liked his sct told you when abilities were ready/could be used |
| 06:48.25 | DarkTrooper | esp ones like 'can only use after a dodge' it's next to impossible to know if you've dodged unless you do nothing but read the tiny text |
| 06:48.37 | Thrae | "Error reading endtag"...great. |
| 06:50.41 | Thrae | Oh wait, forgot </Anchors>, dammit |
| 06:58.44 | `Zypher | hrmrmmmm |
| 07:02.35 | DarkTrooper | ah, gotta love forums |
| 07:02.38 | DarkTrooper | `The "i spec dps so i dps" type of healers should just roll another class, and a little bashing helping them to do so doesnt hurt.` |
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| 07:29.10 | `Zypher | hello Zedde |
| 07:36.39 | ghostfish | the anticipation is killing me |
| 07:36.45 | ghostfish | and leaving me unable to sleep |
| 07:36.52 | DarkTrooper | for hwat? |
| 07:37.10 | ghostfish | what the heck do you think |
| 07:37.24 | Acetar | the impending grind >.> |
| 07:37.31 | ghostfish | nah, fun leveling |
| 07:37.41 | DarkTrooper | yeah impending grind :) |
| 07:38.51 | DarkTrooper | fantstic, don't click 'decline' on the agreements by mistake, it kicks you right out of the game, and you have to endure the bullshit all over again |
| 07:41.18 | ghostfish | I hope they make it remember your choice and only ask after patches |
| 07:41.25 | ghostfish | like WoW |
| 07:41.30 | DarkTrooper | nope |
| 07:41.40 | ghostfish | you can't even click fast, you need to scroll on 2 seperate long agreements :( |
| 07:41.50 | ghostfish | or the checkbox is greyed out |
| 07:41.54 | DarkTrooper | they're running it like DaOC, every single time you launch the game |
| 07:42.12 | ghostfish | /wrists |
| 07:44.38 | `Zypher | is it possible to add a field to a table? |
| 07:44.40 | `Zypher | ie |
| 07:44.49 | `Zypher | buffTable = GetBuffs(unit) |
| 07:44.55 | `Zypher | buffTable.unit = unit |
| 07:44.59 | `Zypher | or something of the sort? |
| 07:45.53 | Aiiane | just fyi Thrae |
| 07:46.03 | Aiiane | if you don't have libslash, an error /will/ show up in the debug window |
| 07:46.10 | Aiiane | but it's under 'file loading messages' |
| 07:46.12 | Aiiane | not 'ui errors' |
| 07:46.21 | Aiiane | and file loading messages is off by default |
| 07:46.27 | Aiiane | (and is also spammy) |
| 07:46.34 | `Zypher | Aiiane: can you add fields to tables created by a function? |
| 07:46.43 | `Zypher | read above |
| 07:47.15 | DarkTrooper | i can't believe the servers are still up, i thought they'd be down by now |
| 07:47.43 | wxef | it said they were goin down in the morning |
| 07:47.50 | wxef | probably meaning morning EST |
| 07:47.59 | DarkTrooper | they said 'early morning' |
| 07:48.04 | DarkTrooper | it's nearly 4EST now |
| 07:48.13 | Aiiane | `Zypher: tables are tables, you can do w/e you want with them |
| 07:48.38 | `Zypher | wierd! |
| 07:48.40 | `Zypher | ok |
| 07:48.59 | wxef | i still don't know what class i'm going to play lol |
| 07:49.14 | ghostfish | something fun? |
| 07:49.14 | DarkTrooper | i'm going WE & SW :) |
| 07:49.18 | wxef | probably just end up rolling a shadow warrior |
| 07:49.21 | ghostfish | which is to say, whatever you want |
| 07:50.52 | ghostfish | maybe a runepriest if I get really bored |
| 07:51.13 | wxef | yea i might have a healer too, i've only played one other mmo and i was a healer and i liked that |
| 07:52.30 | wxef | i like trying to outheal everyone else hehe |
| 07:53.07 | `Zypher | yay |
| 07:53.13 | `Zypher | I got unit into the table! |
| 07:53.48 | thanners | wxef: i always liked that sort of aspect of healing. others pride themselves on damage/killing. |
| 07:53.58 | thanners | wxef: but the healer prides himself on denying those kills. :P |
| 07:54.36 | Thrae | In most other MMO PvP, you don't get much reward from just healing. Not unless your already in a good group. |
| 07:55.01 | Thrae | In WAR, you can get plenty of RP just healing. |
| 07:55.25 | Thrae | Aiiane: Yeah I fixed the problem with my own addon. I hate dry coding. |
| 07:55.42 | Thrae | Just as I got it the way I liked it, now the servers go down. |
| 07:56.15 | `Zypher | Aiiane: do you think I should just go ahead and push this version to curseforge |
| 07:56.20 | `Zypher | I haven't had much time to test |
| 07:56.24 | `Zypher | but |
| 07:56.25 | `Zypher | its |
| 07:56.35 | `Zypher | Player, Friendly Target, Hostile Target |
| 07:56.39 | `Zypher | >.< |
| 07:56.44 | Thrae | `Zypher: Any SVN should have a place to put experimental code. |
| 07:57.12 | Thrae | `Zypher: I think Curseforge says just upload it, but don't tag it unless it's a tested build at least. |
| 07:57.46 | `Zypher | Thrae: I can |
| 07:57.53 | `Zypher | I can just tell it to call it beta |
| 07:58.05 | Aiiane | beta still pushes it to curse |
| 07:58.06 | Thrae | Well if you haven't tested it, I would just tag it later. |
| 07:58.14 | `Zypher | Aiiane: alpha :P |
| 07:58.48 | `Zypher | I'll push it in the morning |
| 07:58.54 | `Zypher | when after I've made sure it works |
| 07:58.55 | wxef | is there someone already working on a "accept-all-quests" sort of thing (if possible) ? aka you click the npc that has quests and addon accepts them all? |
| 08:01.01 | `Zypher | probably not |
| 08:01.09 | `Zypher | and I don't encourage anything like that |
| 08:01.13 | `Zypher | people will get mad at that |
| 08:01.21 | wxef | going to far? |
| 08:02.26 | `Zypher | wxef: could be considered "Playing for you" |
| 08:02.49 | Aiiane | `Zypher: are you a CE preorder? |
| 08:03.00 | wxef | ah, i see, i just wondered because when i was playing i noticed some npcs had like freakin 10 quests and i had to click each one hit accept then go back, etc |
| 08:03.01 | `Zypher | Aiiane: yup |
| 08:03.05 | Aiiane | fun |
| 08:03.11 | `Zypher | Aiiane: you? |
| 08:03.22 | Aiiane | nope. I don't see the point in paying extra |
| 08:03.37 | `Zypher | I wanted the faces / quests |
| 08:03.38 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:04.08 | `Zypher | ok |
| 08:04.11 | `Zypher | time to push this version |
| 08:04.14 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:04.23 | Thrae | `Zypher: I think that level of automation is acceptable because it's benign. It's not like multiple quests to one NPC is there to impede you. |
| 08:05.02 | Thrae | Automatically walking over to NPCs who have quests is something different. |
| 08:05.13 | ghostfish | faces = meh |
| 08:05.21 | ghostfish | action figure and art book = pwn |
| 08:05.27 | ghostfish | tabletop figure rather |
| 08:05.31 | ghostfish | no action |
| 08:05.35 | thanners | heheh |
| 08:05.45 | ghostfish | well, it doesn't have posable limbs |
| 08:05.58 | thanners | could if you modified it.. a little.. :P |
| 08:07.01 | Thrae | `Zypher: There's a difference between something in the user interface that makes a real impact in the game and something that's just plain annoying. |
| 08:08.13 | Thrae | Annnyway |
| 08:08.19 | wxef | yea i'm just talking about a junkdump type addon, except it just accepts quests instead of sell greys hehe |
| 08:08.23 | Thrae | Do I need to install a different client for HS? |
| 08:08.25 | `Zypher | Thrae: I don't have a problem really, its just what people might think. |
| 08:08.27 | CokesFTW | so beta servers down.... now what to do......... |
| 08:09.18 | Thrae | `Zypher: It's really the WoW Pre-2.0 stigma that gets people. Like I said, as long as its benign. When you get stuff like auto-target the person with the lowest health, then you're getting into nasty territory. |
| 08:09.29 | ghostfish | create a 2 greenskins one squig video? |
| 08:11.38 | `Zypher | Thrae: I know what it is |
| 08:11.52 | `Zypher | that doesn't change peoples opinions. |
| 08:12.15 | `Zypher | ok |
| 08:12.26 | `Zypher | since the two people I asked didn't really give me an answer |
| 08:12.30 | `Zypher | what does channel think |
| 08:12.42 | `Zypher | zbb's newest version is very similar to mythic's bufftracker |
| 08:12.50 | `Zypher | moded to allow for statusbar creation |
| 08:13.00 | `Zypher | does this fall under a valid ui modification |
| 08:13.05 | `Zypher | or is it like a no no |
| 08:13.30 | wxef | doesn't sound like a no no? |
| 08:13.55 | `Zypher | I don't think it is |
| 08:13.56 | ghostfish | status bar? |
| 08:13.58 | `Zypher | but I want to be sure |
| 08:14.03 | `Zypher | instead of just an icon |
| 08:14.08 | `Zypher | it creates a statusbar |
| 08:14.13 | ghostfish | how would that be a problem? |
| 08:14.16 | `Zypher | that depletes as the buff time runs out |
| 08:14.23 | ghostfish | a bar representing time versus a number... |
| 08:14.28 | ghostfish | same thing |
| 08:14.33 | `Zypher | ghostfish: but the code is very similar to theirs |
| 08:14.35 | ghostfish | how could that possibly not be allowed |
| 08:14.38 | `Zypher | its only slightly moded |
| 08:14.45 | ghostfish | you're not selling it |
| 08:14.52 | `Zypher | okie day |
| 08:15.05 | ghostfish | so I don't think they care how much of your code you use, it is THEIR ui after all |
| 08:15.20 | ghostfish | their code* |
| 08:16.09 | DarkTrooper | typical, i go have dinner and then the servers go down -_- |
| 08:16.19 | wxef | what'd you have for dinner haha |
| 08:16.29 | Repo | zbb: 03adalyn 07v2.0 * v2.0 / (5 files in 3 directories): (13 revisions total) (Message trimmed by 9 lines) |
| 08:16.30 | Repo | Huge Overhaul to how the addon works, now creates bars for yourself, friendly target, and hostile target. |
| 08:16.37 | Repo | clean up some options, scale value increased to 2.0 |
| 08:16.43 | Repo | fixing some typos |
| 08:16.44 | DarkTrooper | crummed chicken with veggies + OJ |
| 08:16.51 | Repo | added a bunch of new options |
| 08:16.53 | Repo | zbb: 03adalyn * v2.0 / (5 files in 3 directories): |
| 08:17.01 | Repo | Huge Overhaul to how the addon works, now creates bars for yourself, friendly target, and hostile target. |
| 08:17.05 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:17.09 | `Zypher | thats really annoying |
| 08:17.59 | *** join/#waruidev Daegalus (n=Daegalus@four.alameda.net) |
| 08:31.50 | Thrae | `Zypher: The reason to use Lua is to encourage the free exchange of ideas when coding addons. Despite Mythic's inaction on the subject, that includes their own interface. Without it, we wouldn't be coding addons at all. |
| 08:32.07 | `Zypher | Thrae: ya |
| 08:32.08 | `Zypher | well |
| 08:32.12 | `Zypher | its out there now |
| 08:32.12 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:32.16 | Thrae | `Zypher: Remember Mythic gives you the "custom" directory for a reason. |
| 08:32.21 | `Zypher | yar |
| 08:32.34 | DarkTrooper | what are we discussing? |
| 08:32.53 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: nothing |
| 08:32.55 | `Zypher | I'm going to sleep |
| 08:33.03 | `Zypher | you can look at the new version of zbb on cf |
| 08:33.03 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:33.05 | DarkTrooper | well on a side note these mashmallows are nice :) |
| 08:33.20 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: Hey, I don't boast about my girlfriends. |
| 08:33.44 | DarkTrooper | if you were here i'd offer some all around, i don't really need a whole bag to myself |
| 08:34.00 | Thrae | Mmmm...bag of girlfriends. |
| 08:34.03 | wxef | lol |
| 08:34.06 | *** join/#waruidev sOLARiZ (n=solariz@ip-88-153-200-171.hsi.ish.de) |
| 08:34.09 | DarkTrooper | sounds like trouble |
| 08:34.22 | Thrae | Well, "friends with benefits". |
| 08:34.33 | DarkTrooper | sounds like double trouble then |
| 08:35.00 | Thrae | Only if they're married. Happily, anyway. |
| 08:35.56 | DarkTrooper | haha, this post is awesome http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1480832&postcount=64 |
| 08:37.29 | wxef | heh, forums, it's like watching a soap |
| 08:37.41 | sOLARiZ | morning |
| 08:37.54 | wxef | sOLARiZ, you drinkin some coffee? |
| 08:38.08 | DarkTrooper | haha sOLARiZ, you're always leaving just as i get on of a morning :) |
| 08:39.21 | wxef | wow this is interesting, deaf ufc fighter, he looks over to his corner during the fight to see what his corner people are telling him |
| 08:39.54 | wxef | awesome for sure |
| 08:44.04 | sOLARiZ | ah coffe right |
| 08:44.08 | sOLARiZ | just made one |
| 08:44.36 | sOLARiZ | But this is the thing with the Internet now adays I find this great. 10 yrs Ago we probably never had the oportunity to speak together ;) |
| 08:45.55 | DarkTrooper | well not unless you dialed an international BBS |
| 08:46.10 | wxef | internet is the new tv |
| 08:46.12 | DarkTrooper | tho if you were on some of the more wired ones you could mail people |
| 08:47.16 | wxef | video killed the radio star, internet killed the tv star :O |
| 08:47.37 | DarkTrooper | wxef: i have to agree, it was great to hack around in a text based system, doing cool shit, then they invented this thing called the internet, at first it was cool, only leet people used it, but then computers became popular and all the lolheads with their roflcats came |
| 08:47.54 | wxef | lol |
| 08:48.04 | wxef | yea, with good also came bad |
| 08:48.23 | sOLARiZ | Yeah but 10yr ago I mostly stuck on national bbs because of the cost. "Flatrate" was just a unkown word 10yrs ago ;) |
| 08:48.59 | DarkTrooper | i even had a 2nd phone line so i could be connected to BBS's constantly (or run one if i wanted to) |
| 08:49.52 | DarkTrooper | and play the, errr, i forget what they're called now, the text based bbs games |
| 08:50.17 | thanners | DarkTrooper: i remember doing that. :P |
| 08:50.20 | DarkTrooper | there were some cool RPG ones, and you only had a certain time limit or # of moves a day :) |
| 08:50.24 | sOLARiZ | DarkTrooper: This was the good point in EU or Germany, I ahd an ISDN account which have already 2 Digital Lines included with 64Kbit ;) |
| 08:50.40 | thanners | DarkTrooper: I played one called MajorMUD. Got silly. everyone ended up using scripts to play |
| 08:50.56 | thanners | And they'd basically just come back, check on their scripts, and use it as a glorified irc. :P |
| 08:51.17 | DarkTrooper | yeah well au was pretty backwards when it came to communication stuff, we had 1 national telco, and no one had ever heard of ISDN lines 10 years ago :) |
| 08:51.37 | DarkTrooper | but there was a chat session anyway |
| 08:51.53 | DarkTrooper | the bowling game was pretty cool ;) |
| 08:53.33 | DarkTrooper | lol (from wiki) "Today, Internet forums occupy much of the same social and technological space as BBSes did in their heyday." |
| 08:53.43 | DarkTrooper | yeah except bbs's were cool and forums are nothing but trash for the most part :) |
| 08:54.35 | sOLARiZ | sad but true |
| 08:55.00 | DarkTrooper | isn't it interesting that anything that becomes maistream often turns to crap? P |
| 08:55.24 | DarkTrooper | yeah i guess that's the real crux |
| 08:55.39 | DarkTrooper | we can still blame it on evil corporations tho yeah? |
| 08:56.09 | wxef | well, corperations are made of people |
| 08:57.01 | ghostfish | corporations are evil |
| 08:57.05 | wxef | me being american |
| 08:57.06 | ghostfish | the money they pay is good |
| 08:57.10 | wxef | i can say first hand |
| 08:57.21 | wxef | that greed and capitalism is a downfall of society |
| 08:57.30 | ghostfish | nah |
| 08:57.36 | ghostfish | greed is good, capitalism is good |
| 08:57.40 | ghostfish | greed drives innovation |
| 08:57.57 | wxef | curiosity and intelligence drives innovation |
| 08:58.30 | ghostfish | you think most startups happen only because people like an area of tech? no, they want to make money off of something (and they may like it too) |
| 08:58.45 | wxef | i've worked for 2 startups :) |
| 08:58.49 | DarkTrooper | wxef is right :) |
| 08:58.50 | ghostfish | greed is a natural human desire |
| 08:58.56 | wxef | energy conservation startups |
| 08:58.59 | ghostfish | and it's good |
| 08:58.59 | DarkTrooper | greed isn't natural at all |
| 08:59.04 | ghostfish | really? |
| 08:59.11 | Aiiane | curiousity and intelligence drives innovation; money makes it possible in the first place |
| 08:59.12 | ghostfish | you get hungry don't you? |
| 08:59.19 | DarkTrooper | it has been inbread into people since the champtions of capatalism happened :) |
| 08:59.25 | ghostfish | you see an attractive woman and you think, damn that's nice, dont' you? |
| 08:59.35 | ghostfish | I'm talking before your concious brain shuts it down |
| 08:59.36 | Aiiane | um |
| 08:59.37 | Aiiane | not exactly |
| 08:59.44 | DarkTrooper | hungry = have a sanga, greed = take the whole loaf |
| 08:59.46 | DarkTrooper | :) |
| 08:59.51 | Aiiane | but I guess I'm a special case here ghostfish |
| 08:59.52 | Aiiane | :P |
| 09:00.02 | ghostfish | from a survival perspective, you should take the whole loaf |
| 09:00.11 | DarkTrooper | not if there's enough to go around :) |
| 09:00.14 | ghostfish | like I said, before the higher brain shuts it down |
| 09:00.22 | wxef | ghostfish, i guess that's the bottom line, survival |
| 09:00.27 | ghostfish | no matter how much there is, you want it all |
| 09:00.30 | wxef | ghostfish, you gotta do what ya gotta do :) |
| 09:00.33 | DarkTrooper | greed is *not* a natural instinct |
| 09:00.38 | ghostfish | then your advanced brain says, nah, we can share |
| 09:01.00 | ghostfish | Aiiane: indeed, special case |
| 09:01.04 | DarkTrooper | early humans used to happily share everything they caught as food with their clan |
| 09:01.16 | DarkTrooper | they didn't just go and kill 5 boars if they only needed 1 to eat |
| 09:01.18 | ghostfish | only because they needed them so survive |
| 09:01.27 | ghostfish | and they couldn't preserve meat |
| 09:01.37 | DarkTrooper | every indigionous (sp) people on the planet, have only ever taken what they needed |
| 09:01.43 | DarkTrooper | greed by definition is taking more than you need |
| 09:02.01 | wxef | it's more complicated than that, especialy modern day |
| 09:02.02 | ghostfish | then I disagree with my whole argument |
| 09:02.09 | ghostfish | greed isn't more than you need |
| 09:02.15 | ghostfish | greed is a desire for something |
| 09:02.20 | wxef | society pressures you into being greedy, making you feel like you need more than you actually d |
| 09:02.22 | wxef | o |
| 09:02.26 | ghostfish | the way I was explaining things at least |
| 09:02.33 | DarkTrooper | ya wxef is on the ball |
| 09:02.41 | DarkTrooper | did you happen to do a degree in humanities wxef? :) |
| 09:02.49 | ghostfish | well, I actually do *need* a Ferrari at some point |
| 09:02.55 | DarkTrooper | haha |
| 09:02.59 | wxef | ghostfish, well shit, i need a 2009 camaro |
| 09:03.04 | wxef | and a hottie gf |
| 09:03.08 | ghostfish | fuck american muscle ;) |
| 09:03.12 | wxef | and my meals cooked for me |
| 09:03.18 | DarkTrooper | i need every city on the planet to have a surpurb public transport system ;) |
| 09:03.18 | wxef | and my clothes washed for me |
| 09:03.19 | wxef | :) |
| 09:03.35 | ghostfish | scapel (Ferrari) versus sledgehammer (Lamborghini), the debate will last forever |
| 09:05.17 | DarkTrooper | "During the late 1980s and early 1990s, most BBSes used ANSI to make elaborate welcome screens, and colorized menus and ANSI support was a sought-after feature in client programs." |
| 09:05.36 | DarkTrooper | yeah, ANSI art was great, the pinnicle of high art imo |
| 09:05.51 | DarkTrooper | warhammer should be elaborate screens of ansi art ;) |
| 09:06.19 | wxef | from bbs's to streaming live video and playing mmo 3d games |
| 09:07.06 | DarkTrooper | doom was pretty revolutionary tho, i was impressed :) |
| 09:07.29 | DarkTrooper | don't know how many months i wasted away making doom maps instead of school work ;) |
| 09:07.29 | wxef | i remember connecting to friends via modem to play doom |
| 09:07.31 | wxef | haha |
| 09:11.21 | DarkTrooper | out of interest, how many people here 'watch the GCD' as opposed to 'watching the battle and spamming keys' ? |
| 09:11.43 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: that's why I wrote GCDisplay, so you don't have to make that choice |
| 09:12.16 | DarkTrooper | well there's like *another* 12 page 'discussion' on that topic really :) |
| 09:12.28 | Aiiane | its not really about that |
| 09:12.34 | wxef | DarkTrooper, you seem to frequent forums! |
| 09:12.43 | DarkTrooper | yeah i'm a lurker |
| 09:12.59 | DarkTrooper | i get sucked in wiht the stupidity and storm off in a huff, then play hearts ;) |
| 09:13.05 | wxef | hehe |
| 09:13.42 | DarkTrooper | i plan on going to bed ealy tonight so i can get up early for war, but i just know that i'll sleep even longer than usual, murphy's law! |
| 09:14.27 | sOLARiZ | After getting many questins, I've put together a WIKI Entry about How to install Addons correctly. Because I'm n ot a native US language speaker it would be really great if somebody could read through it and maybe correct it or tell me what to correct. http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/Howto_install_Addons/ |
| 09:14.34 | sOLARiZ | questions |
| 09:16.04 | wxef | "There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page." |
| 09:16.14 | DarkTrooper | drop the / :) |
| 09:16.15 | wxef | maybe takes a min |
| 09:16.26 | wxef | ah |
| 09:16.37 | sOLARiZ | yeah ;) http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/Howto_install_Addons |
| 09:17.04 | thanners | DarkTrooper: i have a little dot that flicks its way across my screen; near the action (re: GCD) |
| 09:17.34 | thanners | oops, that was 5 mins ago. |
| 09:17.37 | DarkTrooper | i reckon i'd find that just as distrcting as staring at the action bars :) |
| 09:17.57 | thanners | heh, well watching the action and spamming buttons works fine, too :P |
| 09:18.14 | thanners | in fact, there's enough leeway that i find it's not that big a problem. |
| 09:18.28 | thanners | i can just hit the next button.. "oohh, roughly about now", and it ends up going off when it's meant to, anyway. |
| 09:18.30 | DarkTrooper | esp as a WE, i find it depends on your class if you're spaming or not |
| 09:18.44 | thanners | true enough. |
| 09:19.02 | DarkTrooper | ie i don't spam anything with my SW, but i spam everything in pvp wiht my WE |
| 09:20.20 | DarkTrooper | i also find it interesting that it's always the non-native english speaker that ends up doing english guides, as if no native can be assed to do it or something? heh. |
| 09:21.06 | Daegalus | Night all see ya tomorrow at launch. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! |
| 09:21.12 | DarkTrooper | dae :) |
| 09:21.57 | thanners | seeya (c: |
| 09:22.12 | sOLARiZ | night :p |
| 09:22.27 | sOLARiZ | ps: today for me just 4hrs ;p |
| 09:40.22 | wxef | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/dave_linger/instameme.jpg |
| 09:41.20 | DarkTrooper | to be fair, it probably would still work :) |
| 09:41.54 | wxef | i've run some thumbdrives through the washing machine and they still work to this day |
| 09:41.56 | sOLARiZ | depending of what Keyboard.... This logitech 100$ monster with LCD and macros and ... hmm probably not ;) |
| 09:42.24 | DarkTrooper | the lcd wouldn't survive, but the keys would still work :) |
| 09:42.51 | Aiiane | sOLARiZ: I copyedited your guide a bit. http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/How_to_install_addons |
| 09:42.59 | wxef | so how would you place the keyboard though, on the top shelf upside down? |
| 09:43.19 | sOLARiZ | Aiiane: thanks I hope it wasn't tooooo bad ;) |
| 09:43.19 | DarkTrooper | top shelf right side up |
| 09:43.42 | Aiiane | well |
| 09:43.48 | DarkTrooper | i was too tired to correct it tonight sOLARiZ, but it was pretty good considering |
| 09:43.48 | Aiiane | you have an odd tendency |
| 09:43.53 | wxef | last time i cleaned mine i popped out every single key ran through dishwasher and washed the main park by hand |
| 09:44.02 | Aiiane | to Randomly capitalize certain Words in the middle of A sentence |
| 09:44.15 | wxef | park = part |
| 09:45.06 | DarkTrooper | they arn't random Aii :) |
| 09:45.22 | ghostfish | the G15? |
| 09:45.30 | sOLARiZ | Aiiane: I know this is how it is in german ;) Words which describe a "Main Word" have to written capitalized. Teached this since I was 4 Years old hard to ignore this behavior ;) |
| 09:45.30 | ghostfish | the original monster |
| 09:45.42 | DarkTrooper | i can see how they can be mistaken for 'things' which are normally capatalised |
| 09:45.44 | sOLARiZ | Aiiane: so it's not random ;p |
| 09:45.44 | ghostfish | with 18 macro keys, the new ones only have like 6 macro keys :( |
| 09:46.11 | Aiiane | lol sOLARiZ :) |
| 09:46.12 | Aiiane | well |
| 09:46.28 | Aiiane | that's fine :) but english says only the start of a sentence and names |
| 09:46.34 | ghostfish | proper names |
| 09:47.47 | sOLARiZ | Aiiane: Deep in my brain I know that but the habit to ignore it is even deeper ^^ |
| 09:47.59 | *** join/#waruidev Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 09:48.12 | Aiiane | go back and proofread after you write then :) |
| 09:48.26 | sOLARiZ | yeah I should do :) |
| 09:52.52 | DarkTrooper | sOLARiZ: does german uses a SVO (Subject-Verb-Object) struture? |
| 09:53.35 | sOLARiZ | yes |
| 09:54.00 | DarkTrooper | was english particularly difficult to learn? |
| 09:54.09 | *** join/#waruidev Nakiota (n=Nakiota@90.184.22.53) |
| 09:56.01 | sOLARiZ | no English is one of the easiest languages. French is even harder. German: "Ich finde es nicht sehr leicht" English: "I think it is not very easy" are very similar but french with this special pronoucing letters is harder. "Je ne trouve pas très facile." |
| 09:57.02 | wxef | i heard english was hard because we have words that mean 3 different things and everyone speaks slang |
| 09:57.14 | DarkTrooper | that's the same for every language wxef |
| 09:57.37 | DarkTrooper | i would expect most europeans to not have great difficulty with english as the roots are quite similar |
| 09:57.47 | DarkTrooper | usually the alphabet is the same or similar too |
| 09:58.29 | sOLARiZ | Yes but specially I germany, maybe because of the fact that after WWII many americans was here in the country, alot of people could read and speak english fluently. If you go to e.g. italy this isn't the case. |
| 09:58.37 | sOLARiZ | I = in |
| 09:59.10 | DarkTrooper | lol italians are just stubbon tho, i shoudl know, thats my family line, lol |
| 09:59.26 | wxef | my friend just left for vacation to italy holland and belgium yesterday |
| 09:59.34 | sOLARiZ | For about 2 years i had to work 3 weeks in Monza , Italy. It was horrible I can't speak italian so I tried English... Fail. |
| 10:00.09 | DarkTrooper | haha, yeah that always sucks |
| 10:02.03 | sOLARiZ | Even if they have 4 years english in school time to time it seems they just reject this language ;p |
| 10:02.07 | wxef | http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1725/nineinchfailsur6.jpg |
| 10:02.22 | ghostfish | that's intentional |
| 10:02.31 | ghostfish | like, it's part of the song and makes sense |
| 10:02.32 | wxef | yep |
| 10:02.37 | sOLARiZ | Looks like a Ms PRomotion ;) |
| 10:02.38 | wxef | i saw them live few years ago |
| 10:02.42 | wxef | some kid got my wallet |
| 10:02.46 | wxef | i ended up with a burglary charge |
| 10:02.53 | ghostfish | huh? |
| 10:02.54 | DarkTrooper | sOLARiZ: it's worse in japan, they have 12 years of english education, and most of them can't speak or read a word of it :) |
| 10:03.06 | wxef | stole my wallet, tried to buy beer with my ID and a stolen credit card |
| 10:03.12 | wxef | cop didn't do his job |
| 10:03.34 | sOLARiZ | I like japan the good point here is many japanese really like germany so it is more likely that hte have a german course at school then good english :) |
| 10:04.24 | DarkTrooper | afaik they don't even offer german |
| 10:05.03 | sOLARiZ | I know many japanese having german classes but I dont know if this is a public school |
| 10:05.37 | DarkTrooper | i know alot do eventually learn it (and french), but i don't remember it being part of the syllabus, not like english is anyway |
| 10:06.27 | DarkTrooper | it's actually ironic, you'd probably have an easier time in japan using german, than english :) |
| 10:07.11 | sOLARiZ | never been there but I plan to. It's a interesting, totaly different, culture |
| 10:07.22 | DarkTrooper | you could say that :) |
| 10:19.49 | Aiiane | nini all~ |
| 10:21.40 | sOLARiZ | What's a "nini" ? ;) |
| 10:22.17 | DarkTrooper | that's one of those world mysteries that shouldn't ever be ponded i think :) |
| 10:22.28 | sOLARiZ | ^^ |
| 10:23.22 | sOLARiZ | Lol... I love those Posts: "What does authentication failed mean? " ehmmm - Authentication failed ? |
| 10:23.31 | DarkTrooper | ot |
| 10:23.47 | DarkTrooper | it's a strange error tho, it comes up at really odd times and means a few different things >< |
| 10:24.31 | sOLARiZ | most mythic errors means a few things ^^ |
| 10:28.37 | `Zypher | aids |
| 10:28.40 | `Zypher | I can't sleep |
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| 10:29.10 | `Zypher | someone tell me a bedtime story. |
| 10:29.14 | sOLARiZ | what time is it ? |
| 10:29.20 | `Zypher | 3:30 am |
| 10:29.34 | DarkTrooper | 2030 :) |
| 10:29.44 | sOLARiZ | ;p 12:26 pm |
| 10:29.49 | sOLARiZ | 30 |
| 10:29.51 | DarkTrooper | mmm, lunch time |
| 10:29.54 | sOLARiZ | my clock is going wring |
| 10:30.01 | `Zypher | tell me a good story |
| 10:30.03 | `Zypher | I want to sleep |
| 10:30.07 | `Zypher | <.< |
| 10:30.37 | sOLARiZ | read the forums there are reallly boring threads which bring everybody at sleep ;p |
| 10:30.51 | `Zypher | that |
| 10:30.52 | `Zypher | is |
| 10:30.53 | `Zypher | terrible |
| 10:31.00 | `Zypher | grammer |
| 10:31.03 | DarkTrooper | there was once a new game, it's testing phase had ended, and all was quiet, so the good little people went and snored the night away, waiting for the expendatious time of heart start launch! The end. |
| 10:31.28 | DarkTrooper | head start* ..> |
| 10:31.29 | `Zypher | spell properly prease! |
| 10:31.37 | DarkTrooper | yeah get fucked ;) |
| 10:32.04 | `Zypher | ok, its kinda hard to get fucked at 3:31am |
| 10:32.14 | DarkTrooper | you always have Ms Palmer |
| 10:32.16 | `Zypher | not many girls just out and about at this hour. |
| 10:32.32 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: I won't stoop to your level. |
| 10:32.44 | DarkTrooper | lol, do we need to drag out the logs? :) |
| 10:33.09 | `Zypher | you log these conversations? |
| 10:33.16 | `Zypher | thats kinda creepy... |
| 10:33.39 | `Zypher | you want pictures of me too? |
| 10:33.46 | DarkTrooper | mirc logs everything by default i think |
| 10:34.09 | `Zypher | lol |
| 10:34.10 | `Zypher | mirc |
| 10:34.17 | `Zypher | irssi is where it's at.... |
| 10:34.46 | DarkTrooper | yeah i'm not a fan of mirc either, but no other doze client supports jis/shift-jis charset |
| 10:36.30 | `Zypher | lol |
| 10:38.03 | DarkTrooper | seriously, who ring up at 20 to nine? |
| 10:41.58 | `Zypher | idk |
| 10:42.03 | `Zypher | but theres a new fraps version out |
| 10:42.06 | `Zypher | woot woot |
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| 12:15.24 | sOLARiZ | re |
| 12:20.14 | sOLARiZ | GOA Announced official HS Time 15:30 MET |
| 12:20.27 | sOLARiZ | so 70 minutes form now ;p |
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| 15:23.00 | Edric | RAWR! |
| 15:26.48 | Edric | No one is alive. Please try again later... |
| 15:30.44 | ghostfish | bullshit |
| 15:30.48 | ghostfish | I'm very alive |
| 15:30.55 | ckknight | I doubt that |
| 15:30.58 | ckknight | being a ghost and all |
| 15:32.38 | Brainiac1000 | Well I am cause I need to be logging into WAR in 28 min >_> |
| 15:33.24 | Brainiac1000 | Time to set up the food, booze, and call the gf to let her know I'm dead to the outside world for 4 or more days |
| 15:35.47 | Edric | What server? I don't want to be allloooonnneee.... |
| 15:35.51 | ghostfish | booze? |
| 15:36.04 | ghostfish | only if you're a dwarf |
| 15:36.12 | ghostfish | otherwise you need to be semi-sober |
| 15:36.17 | Edric | Or if your a mushroom with teeth. |
| 15:36.31 | Brainiac1000 | I'm rolling on Skull Throne with a ton of friends, and hey Orcs drink stuntie beer! |
| 15:36.55 | Edric | hahaha! what class you playing? |
| 15:37.46 | Brainiac1000 | Black Orc |
| 15:38.03 | Edric | WRONG! |
| 15:38.04 | Edric | D: |
| 15:38.04 | Brainiac1000 | I wanted to be on Wulfenburg but my friends are carebears it seems |
| 15:38.16 | Brainiac1000 | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! |
| 15:38.48 | Brainiac1000 | "I only want to PvP if I want to!" |
| 15:39.00 | Edric | Pussies... |
| 15:39.13 | Brainiac1000 | That's what I said |
| 15:39.17 | Edric | (No offence, of course.) |
| 15:39.26 | Brainiac1000 | but eh I'd rather play with 20 people I know than play alone |
| 15:39.41 | Brainiac1000 | I'll roll on Wulfenburg with an alt or something |
| 15:39.41 | Edric | Can anyone say massive warband? |
| 15:39.59 | Brainiac1000 | That's why an open server would have been awesome |
| 15:40.12 | Edric | You did explain that, right? |
| 15:41.56 | Brainiac1000 | Yeah |
| 15:42.12 | Brainiac1000 | but then the chicks in the group go "But we aren't all going to be on all the time!" |
| 15:42.16 | Brainiac1000 | PUSSIES! |
| 15:42.22 | `Zypher | I am |
| 15:42.23 | `Zypher | rolling |
| 15:42.25 | `Zypher | on Volkmar |
| 15:42.33 | `Zypher | for anyone who wants to be there. |
| 15:42.38 | Brainiac1000 | oh well it's time to go get my food set up |
| 15:42.42 | Edric | LAME! |
| 15:42.57 | Edric | You should roll on an Open RvR server. |
| 15:43.00 | Acetar | `Zypher: you almost had a hiku going there |
| 15:45.37 | `Zypher | Edric: open rvr isn't very appealing. |
| 15:46.32 | Edric | Why not? |
| 15:46.44 | Edric | I suppose there is room for retards, and griefers..... |
| 15:50.42 | Thunder_Child | i dont want to be on open rvr but my guild decided thats where it's going >.< |
| 15:51.48 | Edric | What server, and what faction...? |
| 15:52.00 | Edric | (Totally trying to find people to play with...) |
| 15:52.09 | Thunder_Child | dark craig / destruction |
| 15:54.42 | Thunder_Child | boo, you only get the CE stuff from entering the code on the box |
| 15:54.45 | `Zypher | the cons of Open don't outweigh the pros. |
| 15:54.46 | Edric | So...Dark elf? |
| 15:55.06 | Thunder_Child | Edric, huh? |
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| 15:56.19 | Edric | What race are you going to be playing? |
| 15:56.23 | WarBagel | is aiiane on? |
| 15:57.15 | Thunder_Child | Edric, i will be plaing orc untill the rest of my non ce buying guild gets on and then i will go do dark elf |
| 15:57.32 | Thunder_Child | not that the race matters |
| 15:59.41 | Edric | I see... |
| 15:59.50 | Edric | T-minus, 2 minutes remaining. |
| 15:59.59 | Thunder_Child | 1 |
| 16:02.54 | Thunder_Child | anyone getting lucky? |
| 16:04.10 | ckknight | I got lucky a few days ago |
| 16:04.46 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:04.46 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets ckknight feel it |
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| 16:21.07 | Thunder_Child | wow, the realm i am on is already full >.< |
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| 16:36.04 | Daegalus | OMG, WTF, someone freaking took Daegalus as a name, no one has EVER used that anywhere >_> |
| 16:36.18 | Acetar | lol |
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| 16:37.41 | Thunder_Child | except you? |
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| 16:40.37 | `Zypher | howdy |
| 16:40.42 | ghostfish | hai thar |
| 16:42.52 | Daegalus | THunder_Child: ya except by me. Im the only user of Daegalus. Hell you google it, you can find every site ive been too |
| 16:42.54 | Daegalus | to |
| 16:43.16 | Daegalus | and now i log into WAR and its taken by someone on order i think. |
| 16:44.39 | Thunder_Child | different server then? |
| 16:47.43 | MoronWar | Muwahaha, another addon done (well, can't test till tuesday). |
| 16:53.18 | Ackis | how do you claim your CE items? |
| 16:58.15 | Thunder_Child | you have to enter in your Key from the box on the website |
| 16:58.27 | Thunder_Child | Once you have your Collector's Edition simply visit the Mythic Account Center (http://accounts.eamythic.com) associate your product key with your existing Beta Game Account, the same Game Account you used to create your Head Start characters on. The next time you log your Head Start characters in they will receive an in game mail with your rewards! |
| 16:58.56 | Thunder_Child | odd...my mail has the CE items |
| 17:01.10 | Thunder_Child | well the, tent/band/title anyways |
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| 17:32.09 | WarBagel | is aiiane back yet? |
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| 18:02.11 | ghostfish | is it possible for mods to swap weapon/armor sets in war? |
| 18:02.41 | ghostfish | or is that API functionality not there? (itemSwitch/equip) |
| 18:06.00 | WarBagel | i havent looked into that myself, but aiiane is a great person to ask |
| 18:07.34 | Anitavizdk | As far as i remember there is a function called AutoEquipItem() with takes an inventory id and tries to equip the item in the correct spot. Havent tried it though |
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| 18:08.11 | DarkTrooper | morn all |
| 18:08.27 | Anitavizdk | morn |
| 18:08.29 | DarkTrooper | can't believe this, it's 4am in oz, and the two au servers are already full!! |
| 18:08.36 | DarkTrooper | who the hell is up this early to start with headstart -_- |
| 18:09.01 | Anitavizdk | well 8pm here so not exactly early :P |
| 18:09.56 | DarkTrooper | yeah but no one from the US/EU would be on the au servers, they'd get far too much lag :) |
| 18:12.36 | Itzmattu | ghostfish: yes it is possible, and there is a UI mod out there for it already I believe |
| 18:12.43 | Itzmattu | not sure of the name though unfortunately |
| 18:13.04 | ghostfish | I don't want it (yet) it just came up in another channel, thanks for the info |
| 18:13.05 | Itzmattu | But right now it only lets you tell it the items you want in a set, and them you can tell it to equip them |
| 18:13.14 | Itzmattu | It has no functionality to save what you're already wearing or anything |
| 18:13.22 | Itzmattu | No problem |
| 18:13.26 | ghostfish | meh, does the same thing really |
| 18:13.32 | ghostfish | just takes a bit longer to set up |
| 18:13.33 | Itzmattu | Yeah, just not user-friendly |
| 18:18.05 | Thunder_Child | DarkTrooper, oceanic isnt that laggy for west caost US people |
| 18:20.18 | Thrae | Hmmm. I need a server to pick. |
| 18:21.17 | Thunder_Child | Thrae, what kind? |
| 18:21.50 | DarkTrooper | TC: but in a pvp game, you really want sub 100ms pings :) |
| 18:22.08 | ghostfish | ==DarkTrooper |
| 18:22.29 | Thrae | Either Core or Roleplay. Can't decide. At first I thought the Roleplay servers would be low pop, but Phoenix Throne is already High. |
| 18:23.22 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: I believe Oceanic servers are in the main list because they exist in a NA datacenter like the rest of the servers. They just have a different maintenance schedule. |
| 18:24.01 | DarkTrooper | the oceanic servers are located in melb, au :) |
| 18:24.13 | Thrae | Ouch, that's got to cost a pretty penny then. |
| 18:24.14 | DarkTrooper | but they still run the same maint as NA, ironically |
| 18:24.29 | DarkTrooper | nah they are using the same server farm that UO did |
| 18:24.46 | Thrae | Well still, AU's data prices are insane compared to NA. |
| 18:25.00 | DarkTrooper | not if you go with the right carrier :) |
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| 18:38.51 | rizzen` | christ |
| 18:38.54 | rizzen` | making me register |
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| 18:39.37 | DarkTrooper | haha |
| 18:40.30 | rizzen` | i just came across an old friend as well |
| 18:40.37 | rizzen` | http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html lawls |
| 18:53.27 | DarkTrooper | one of the failures of PQs is when large nubmers of outleveled toons come back to do them and thus no one else ever gets any loot |
| 18:54.16 | Shirik | more like qqdance |
| 18:57.17 | Brainiac1000 | That's so me right now, damn you storms and your power outages |
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| 19:16.20 | iiju | DarkTrooper, yea and some classes have major advantage in the pq's |
| 19:16.29 | iiju | when it comes to ranking higher i mean |
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| 19:19.35 | DarkTrooper | well i expected server crash's, but not ISP maintance -_- |
| 19:42.42 | Aiiane | hi all :) |
| 19:42.55 | DarkTrooper | Aii |
| 19:43.13 | Aiiane | and DarkTrooper, to answer solariz's question |
| 19:43.15 | Aiiane | nini = nightnight |
| 19:55.43 | DarkTrooper | only thing i hate about launch is everywhere is overcamped, and no one groups for shit -_- |
| 19:59.35 | Aiiane | friends, DarkTrooper, friends |
| 19:59.44 | DarkTrooper | ?? |
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| 20:09.13 | Aiiane | "and no one groups for shit -_-" |
| 20:09.17 | Aiiane | friends do ;) |
| 20:09.44 | DarkTrooper | well i try and group with people around me for those named spawns, and everyone rejects adn wants to solo it |
| 20:13.03 | rizzen` | such is life |
| 20:13.11 | rizzen` | what servers is everyone rollin up on? |
| 20:13.26 | Aiiane | I'm rolling on the Not A CE Preorder server |
| 20:13.53 | rizzen` | weak |
| 20:17.47 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 20:21.42 | ghostfish | Volkmar = epic win |
| 20:22.02 | Aiiane | but see |
| 20:22.11 | Aiiane | the fact that I'm not a CE preorder is actually good for you all |
| 20:22.20 | Aiiane | because it means I have an excuse to *not* write code for a bit |
| 20:22.25 | Aiiane | and instead write guides to writing code |
| 20:27.22 | DarkTrooper | but everything has already be written (or in progress) so there's no more need for guides :) |
| 20:31.09 | Netcurse | damn warm in austin |
| 20:31.35 | Thunder_Child | cultivating is a crafting ability or a gathering one? |
| 20:31.44 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: that is *far* from true |
| 20:32.50 | DarkTrooper | now i remember why i hate people, i am 100% over them rolling need on shit they can't even use |
| 20:35.06 | Aiiane | welcome to pugs |
| 20:35.15 | DarkTrooper | welcome to au servers |
| 20:37.39 | DarkTrooper | i'm surprised that the scenario hasn't poped tho, the server is high/full, and i havn't had it pop once yet in the last 2 hours, heh |
| 20:38.27 | Thunder_Child | same, took a while before the one i was in poped, i can only imagin they have one or so and everyone is trying to get in |
| 20:40.20 | DarkTrooper | lol i can see why now, the instance servers are borked |
| 20:40.43 | DarkTrooper | it just poped, and we've been waiting on that loading screen for a few mins |
| 20:52.47 | Aiiane | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/Category:Servers is updated with the latest server additions |
| 20:54.30 | rizzen` | clearly aii you need to roll on badlands destruction |
| 21:04.08 | iiju | DarkTrooper, that drives me crazy, scenario's people rolling need on every item they can't use 24/7 |
| 21:05.28 | DarkTrooper | that too, but this was in a PQ warband |
| 21:07.07 | ghostfish | roll volkmar order |
| 21:07.11 | ghostfish | we're the best ;) |
| 21:07.33 | Aiiane | here we go with the server wars -_- |
| 21:07.40 | ghostfish | indeed |
| 21:07.46 | rizzen` | BADLANDS WILL STOMP ON YOUR HOUSE |
| 21:07.46 | ghostfish | as it should be |
| 21:08.02 | DarkTrooper | well there won't be any server waring here, we just don't have enough servers to war with, lol |
| 21:08.03 | ghostfish | righteous pride is good, stupid pride and fanboism is bad |
| 21:08.59 | CowBook | someone needs to make a !wikifight bot command that compares warhammeronline.wikia.com with www.thewarwiki.com to see who's winning |
| 21:09.23 | DarkTrooper | wikia is winning simply because it was referenced off the mythic homepage :) |
| 21:09.41 | CowBook | well, wikia has always had a lead in number of articles |
| 21:09.53 | CowBook | i don't know about quality of them |
| 21:10.47 | ghostfish | I dislike that wikia doesn't have a legit homepage, but it does have more content atm and an address is insignificant compared to content |
| 21:10.58 | CowBook | correct |
| 21:11.05 | CowBook | googlebot favors wikia |
| 21:11.16 | CowBook | you need more links into thewarwiki |
| 21:12.11 | DarkTrooper | finally, dest is getting into gear, order has owned the T1 zones all morning |
| 21:13.22 | ghostfish | what server? |
| 21:13.30 | DarkTrooper | darklands |
| 21:14.23 | ghostfish | badlands? |
| 21:15.23 | CowBook | i just want to know what server has the least number of retards, and maybe some kind of order-destro balance |
| 21:15.37 | CowBook | so i won't have to re-roll in 2 weeks |
| 21:15.38 | DarkTrooper | they're all going to be full/full :) |
| 21:15.42 | ghostfish | same lol |
| 21:16.01 | DarkTrooper | we had a queue here at 4am, only 2 hours after launch :) |
| 21:17.10 | DarkTrooper | Aii: i'm going to hack your clock to remove the seconds off it :) |
| 21:17.20 | Aiiane | you don't need to... |
| 21:17.38 | Aiiane | just set /script ClockSettings.Format = L"%2d:%02d" |
| 21:17.58 | DarkTrooper | ah, even easier than |
| 21:24.52 | rizzen` | seconds are for saps |
| 21:24.57 | rizzen` | and engineers |
| 21:25.00 | rizzen` | but who cares about them |
| 21:27.39 | DarkTrooper | oops, i guess i should reserve my toon names on the servers, haha |
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| 22:50.24 | Aiiane | off to take a shower, bbiab |
| 22:59.31 | Ackis | where do you get the fragments for talisman making? |
| 23:00.41 | ghostfish | salvaging? |
| 23:01.37 | Ackis | hmm I'm not getting what I need |
| 23:02.37 | Ackis | fragments |
| 23:04.38 | Ackis | I have salvaging and my gf has scavaging |
| 23:08.13 | DarkTrooper | these guards are so random, you can run into your camp, and have mobs come right on in and beat you to death, and they don't even move |
| 23:09.28 | TRTwiggy | How can I create windows to use for configuring my addon? |
| 23:10.16 | rizzen` | magic and lua |
| 23:10.20 | rizzen` | moreso the lua |
| 23:15.32 | TRTwiggy | I meant does it use xml like wow did or is it all done with lua |
| 23:16.34 | DarkTrooper | xml for the defs |
| 23:16.56 | Aiiane | XML for window templates |
| 23:17.02 | Aiiane | lua to handle the logic |
| 23:17.12 | Aiiane | (on a side note... mmm, much better. <3 clean hair) |
| 23:17.19 | TRTwiggy | kk thats what i wanted to know thx |
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| 23:19.25 | DarkTrooper | god i love the DEs, they're like the forsaken, only elfy |
| 23:20.40 | TRTwiggy | i like the video where they said DEs were high elves on drugs |
| 23:21.25 | DarkTrooper | they meant insane high elves on drugs :) |
| 23:21.25 | TRTwiggy | lol |
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