| 00:00.43 | Aiiane | lol |
| 00:00.46 | Aiiane | welcome to scrubland |
| 00:00.56 | DarkTrooper | welcome to au servers -_- |
| 00:03.49 | Aiiane | oh no |
| 00:03.55 | Aiiane | there are plenty of scrubs on the NA servers too :P |
| 00:04.37 | netcurse | http://www.wardb.com/latestProfiles.aspx crazy |
| 00:04.43 | netcurse | when EU servers are not up |
| 00:12.12 | DarkTrooper | jeus christ, ANOTHER PQ and antoehr 8 DoK's not healing |
| 00:13.15 | Aiiane | ohi, wb :P |
| 00:13.25 | Cairenn | hai2u2! |
| 00:13.33 | Aiiane | um, what was I going to ask you again |
| 00:13.50 | Aiiane | oh! right. are there any plans to support any other repos than svn on war.mmoui? |
| 00:14.27 | Aiiane | would be really nice to be able to Hg-push to multiple addon sites rather than having to upload to each any every one :( |
| 00:14.37 | Aiiane | *and->any |
| 00:15.04 | `Zypher | Cairenn: git > hg |
| 00:15.18 | Aiiane | ~lart `Zypher |
| 00:15.19 | purl | teaches `Zypher the basics, including how to RTM |
| 00:15.36 | `Zypher | ~whalefear Aiiane |
| 00:15.37 | purl | ACTION makes a grotesque whale named Marilyn open its mouth. Aiiane flees in terror at the sight of Marilyn's poor oral hygeine |
| 00:16.14 | Cairenn | Aiiane: at some point, yeah |
| 00:16.38 | Cairenn | btw, I've started #waruidev-commits |
| 00:16.38 | Aiiane | oki. I mostly ask because I was starting to upload my addons on war.mmoui as well, but after 2 it was feeling like a chore :| |
| 00:17.02 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I have decided that once you reach the renown cap for your level the renown should contribute to xp. |
| 00:17.18 | Aiiane | having to make zips, find a picture (or make a picture! :|) and then upload them all and try to format the description for more than one site |
| 00:17.28 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 00:17.29 | Aiiane | >< |
| 00:17.54 | Aiiane | So... for now I'll try to keep my major addons on both sites |
| 00:18.04 | Aiiane | but my smaller ones are probably not going to be :X not worth the hassle |
| 00:18.48 | Aiiane | also, I won't argue with your choice, but I personally dislike the image requirement for non-lib addons |
| 00:19.40 | Aiiane | For instance, an image wouldn't be very relevant for http://war.curse.com/downloads/details/13548/ |
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| 00:21.32 | Cairenn | same reason we have it on all of our sites - users want to see what they are downloading before they download - if an image isn't applicable, just put a filler image |
| 00:21.55 | Aiiane | Meh. Like I said, I won't argue the point |
| 00:22.04 | Cairenn | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw929.png ;) |
| 00:22.23 | Aiiane | I just think it's silly to require an image, and then encourage people to put something pointless there |
| 00:23.11 | Aiiane | I also think it's silly to list compilations above everything else, but that's a completely different topic >.> |
| 00:23.59 | Aiiane | Oh, on a different note Cairenn |
| 00:24.05 | Cairenn | hmm? |
| 00:24.17 | Aiiane | could you mention to dolby that if he's going to use material from thewarwiki, can he please cite a full url as the source |
| 00:24.22 | Aiiane | and not simply "Source: thewarwiki.com" |
| 00:24.45 | Cairenn | he did: http://war.mmoui.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20&postcount=1 |
| 00:24.55 | Aiiane | was referring to http://war.mmoui.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8 |
| 00:25.20 | Cairenn | ah, oversite on his part, will fix it |
| 00:25.24 | Aiiane | np |
| 00:26.26 | DarkTrooper | they ahve got to change this 15 min wound stack debuff |
| 00:26.46 | Aiiane | use the healer? >.> |
| 00:27.19 | Aiiane | and/or don't camp your enemy's base and thus die to npcs? |
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| 00:28.00 | DarkTrooper | lol don't due to NPCs, lol good one, i'm dying in PQs as no one is healing, remember :) |
| 00:31.31 | Aiiane | so use the healer o.o |
| 00:31.42 | Aiiane | its like... 15 copper |
| 00:31.48 | Aiiane | er, brass >< |
| 00:31.57 | DarkTrooper | well, it's 45 brass now -_- |
| 00:32.07 | Aiiane | what class are you? |
| 00:32.18 | DarkTrooper | WE |
| 00:43.11 | jjjjjjjjjeeeeeee | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3aN7zVBv3w |
| 00:43.12 | jjjjjjjjjeeeeeee | lol |
| 00:45.38 | netcurse | poor goa |
| 00:45.51 | DarkTrooper | is the acc page still down? |
| 00:45.55 | netcurse | i think so |
| 00:46.04 | netcurse | all of this is because of one dev or 2 :P |
| 00:46.25 | DarkTrooper | ya i think heads might roll at GoA :) |
| 00:46.26 | netcurse | scalability is not easy |
| 00:46.41 | netcurse | we fucked up today |
| 00:46.43 | netcurse | with WHA |
| 00:46.58 | DarkTrooper | well, more the EU scraming did :) |
| 00:47.09 | netcurse | we should have been ready tho :) |
| 00:47.34 | netcurse | WHA will have done 2 millions pages views toay |
| 00:47.35 | netcurse | today |
| 00:47.48 | DarkTrooper | unique or total? |
| 00:47.59 | netcurse | pages views, about 140k uniques |
| 00:48.11 | DarkTrooper | that's still impressive |
| 00:49.14 | Aiiane | what % of those were euro netcurse? |
| 00:49.21 | netcurse | 60% |
| 00:49.25 | Aiiane | :P |
| 00:49.34 | netcurse | actually, 55% |
| 00:49.45 | DarkTrooper | US people probably too busy, i dunno, playing the beta :) |
| 00:49.57 | netcurse | yeah WHA has 65% of north american normally |
| 00:50.19 | DarkTrooper | how many from au? (or region) |
| 00:50.42 | netcurse | let me check |
| 00:51.40 | netcurse | 3.5 % |
| 00:51.45 | netcurse | of WHA visitor are from australia |
| 00:52.09 | netcurse | let me compare with WOW |
| 00:52.28 | DarkTrooper | what does that equate to, or what is 100% :) |
| 00:52.43 | netcurse | 2.5% of curse.com traffic is from australia |
| 00:52.53 | netcurse | 3.5% of 140k |
| 00:53.00 | netcurse | about 5500 |
| 00:53.16 | DarkTrooper | haha, damn that all |
| 00:53.34 | Aiiane | au is too busy playing spore, remember |
| 00:54.28 | DarkTrooper | still, that's a pretty insignifigant number |
| 00:54.38 | DarkTrooper | so probably 10k all up for the region |
| 00:55.42 | netcurse | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1379548 |
| 00:55.45 | netcurse | good update |
| 00:57.04 | Aiiane | yes, "opem" betas are in need of updates :P |
| 01:01.36 | Aiiane | dinner, bbl |
| 01:07.59 | VonhintenHOME` | hahaha |
| 01:08.13 | VonhintenHOME` | Your Word of Pain critically hits Leas for 830 damage. |
| 01:08.15 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm level 12 |
| 01:10.26 | DarkTrooper | that's what 1/2 someones HP? |
| 01:11.06 | VonhintenHOME` | well, in this are, levels are like 18ish, so probably 1/3 |
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| 01:21.51 | DarkTrooper | ahaa, a DB/infrastructure problem, that pretty much everyone warned GoA about, that's classic |
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| 01:45.08 | Aiiane | back |
| 02:05.34 | tronned | wb |
| 02:11.30 | DarkTrooper | urg, found a spider in the house, first in umm, possibly a year or more -_- |
| 02:26.55 | Aiiane | o.o |
| 02:28.08 | DarkTrooper | haha this is crazy, both au servers are either full or nearly full; and it's only midday on a monday, ie most people will be at work and school/etc |
| 02:38.34 | netcurse | wow |
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| 05:05.53 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I like to move it move it. |
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| 05:16.55 | rizzen | `Zypher: wut wut |
| 05:18.56 | Aiiane | o.o |
| 05:22.07 | rizzen | he wants you to move it because he likes it |
| 05:28.49 | rizzen | and now it is sleep time, nite folks |
| 05:37.09 | Daegalus | I think zypher is fantasizing about Aiiane again |
| 05:50.00 | `Zypher | Daegalus: o yes. |
| 05:50.40 | `Zypher | about a girl, whome I have never seen. thats a fun fantasy... |
| 05:50.59 | Daegalus | who said your mind cant make up stuff |
| 05:51.56 | `Zypher | o it can |
| 05:52.04 | `Zypher | but why make things up? |
| 05:58.45 | knix | wtb official docs |
| 05:59.52 | `Zypher | knix: for why? |
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| 06:03.08 | knix | where do you live in the bay? |
| 06:05.47 | `Zypher | East? |
| 06:06.00 | knix | well yea |
| 06:06.20 | knix | I used to live in danville :P |
| 06:06.27 | `Zypher | Pleasanton |
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| 06:20.55 | `Zypher | hmmm |
| 06:21.10 | `Zypher | just took out 4 bright wizards solo |
| 06:50.02 | DarkTrooper | with what? |
| 06:55.26 | `Zypher1 | witch elf |
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| 07:18.44 | agx | nice flop from goa yesterday, i've read a couple of forum and people are super upsets |
| 07:20.39 | hiblios | what does goa stand for? |
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| 07:22.56 | hiblios | bleh |
| 07:23.01 | hiblios | who cares about europe anyways |
| 07:23.40 | agx | hiblios, :-( |
| 07:23.49 | agx | probably that's the answer |
| 07:24.13 | hiblios | what is goa supposed to stand for anyways |
| 07:31.07 | hiblios | so are there any other big war irc channels? |
| 07:31.38 | DarkTrooper | probably not, most users would be using the forums instead for discussion |
| 07:32.45 | `Zypher | hiblios: this isn |
| 07:32.58 | hiblios | there are no forums |
| 07:33.01 | `Zypher | fuck it im too lazy to explain |
| 07:33.07 | `Zypher | wha |
| 07:33.12 | `Zypher | warhammer alliance |
| 07:33.21 | hiblios | its pretty tame on there |
| 07:33.27 | hiblios | theres like 150 users online |
| 07:33.28 | DarkTrooper | tame as in? |
| 07:33.56 | hiblios | considering mythic was boasting they expected something like 100k people during open beta |
| 07:34.17 | DarkTrooper | and well, most people from the US would be asleep, or close to it, EU people will be waking up soon |
| 07:34.26 | DarkTrooper | the rest of us are probably in game instead |
| 07:34.38 | DarkTrooper | it's getting towards dinner time in oceanic region so there's that too |
| 07:35.10 | `Zypher | hiblios: it is 12:34 am pst |
| 07:35.13 | Aiiane | 150 online? |
| 07:35.17 | `Zypher | aka 3:34 am est |
| 07:35.21 | Aiiane | try 500+ members and 1700+ guests |
| 07:35.26 | Aiiane | if you're talking about WHA |
| 07:35.44 | hiblios | meh |
| 07:35.52 | hiblios | when is mythic going to put up official forums |
| 07:35.58 | Aiiane | never |
| 07:35.58 | DarkTrooper | they arn't |
| 07:36.02 | Aiiane | official forums suck |
| 07:36.04 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I wish Kargor were on. |
| 07:36.04 | hiblios | they are going to have to eventually |
| 07:36.07 | Aiiane | no |
| 07:36.09 | Aiiane | they aren't |
| 07:36.09 | DarkTrooper | yya what Aiiane said |
| 07:36.21 | Aiiane | Why would they "have to"? |
| 07:36.33 | hiblios | you can't have a 800,000 launch community without a official form of global communication |
| 07:36.35 | DarkTrooper | there is nothing they need that they can't get from the other forums/other means |
| 07:36.37 | hiblios | and there isn't one built in |
| 07:36.43 | Aiiane | herald.warhammeronline.com |
| 07:36.46 | DarkTrooper | they have communication, the herald :) |
| 07:36.50 | Aiiane | there's your official communication |
| 07:36.54 | DarkTrooper | there'll even be rss feeds too |
| 07:36.55 | hiblios | no |
| 07:37.01 | hiblios | I mean interplayer communication |
| 07:37.10 | hiblios | community is a important part of any mmorpg |
| 07:37.11 | Aiiane | that doesn't have to be official |
| 07:37.11 | DarkTrooper | ya, community forums |
| 07:37.14 | Aiiane | WHA works fine |
| 07:37.16 | Aiiane | and other forums |
| 07:37.17 | hiblios | its amazing I've played WAR all day long |
| 07:37.25 | hiblios | and I have yet to have one person talk to me |
| 07:37.25 | DarkTrooper | WHA > offical forums imo |
| 07:37.26 | hiblios | at all |
| 07:37.37 | `Zypher | hiblios: they have nothing to ask |
| 07:37.45 | `Zypher | I have a cloak and people never stop asking where I got it |
| 07:37.47 | DarkTrooper | yeah beause half the people are new |
| 07:37.56 | hiblios | wha won't be able to handle 800,000 members |
| 07:38.03 | `Zypher | hiblios: no it wont |
| 07:38.07 | `Zypher | but it isn't the only community |
| 07:38.11 | `Zypher | war-rvr |
| 07:38.20 | `Zypher | and others that I'm too tired to think of |
| 07:38.22 | DarkTrooper | umm, you do realise that not every customer goes to /want to go to forums? |
| 07:38.32 | hiblios | of course |
| 07:38.35 | hiblios | not every customer does |
| 07:38.37 | Aiiane | even with the WoW forums, only a small fraction of the playerbase actually reads the forums |
| 07:38.44 | hiblios | but lets say 10% do |
| 07:38.51 | hiblios | thats about the wow figures right now |
| 07:39.00 | Aiiane | It's actually not, but ok |
| 07:39.04 | `Zypher | hiblios: we don't want wow players who use wow forums. |
| 07:39.12 | hiblios | of course we don't |
| 07:39.12 | `Zypher | lol |
| 07:39.14 | Aiiane | there are not 1mil concurrent users on the WoW boards |
| 07:39.22 | DarkTrooper | well it'll probably be 5% because the other 5% of them have been banned for trolling/flaming etc :) |
| 07:39.26 | hiblios | but you have major communication problems without a official centerstone |
| 07:39.33 | Aiiane | ....herald. |
| 07:39.37 | hiblios | aiiane: of course there arent |
| 07:39.43 | hiblios | 10% of 8 million isn't 1 million |
| 07:39.46 | hiblios | its 800,000 |
| 07:39.49 | Aiiane | ok, 800,000 |
| 07:39.54 | Aiiane | there aren't that many, either. |
| 07:39.55 | hiblios | there not all concurrent |
| 07:40.03 | `Zypher | hiblios: no just stop |
| 07:40.04 | hiblios | i meant people who would use forums 10% of people would use forums |
| 07:40.07 | Aiiane | WHA already handles over 100,000 non-concurrent |
| 07:40.20 | `Zypher | the wow forums are a cesspool of crap, they serve almost no purpose |
| 07:40.29 | Aiiane | but hiblios |
| 07:40.32 | `Zypher | the majority of players use worldofraids or mmo-champion |
| 07:40.33 | hiblios | 'zypher: They serve two important purposes |
| 07:40.36 | Aiiane | I have a very simple way to rebut your claims |
| 07:40.39 | DarkTrooper | or EJ |
| 07:40.41 | Aiiane | Guild Wars doesn't have official forums |
| 07:40.49 | hiblios | 'Zypher: guild listing and progress flaunting purposes |
| 07:40.56 | Aiiane | and it does just fine |
| 07:40.57 | hiblios | 'Zypher and guild recruiting purposes |
| 07:41.12 | `Zypher | hiblios: this is also done via fansites |
| 07:41.13 | Aiiane | which WHA and others can handle just fine |
| 07:41.20 | hiblios | also the eventual idiotic trolls sometime are good for great lols |
| 07:41.27 | Aiiane | no, they're retarded. |
| 07:41.29 | `Zypher | hiblios: not really. |
| 07:41.29 | DarkTrooper | no they realy arn't |
| 07:41.49 | hiblios | 'Zypher: the problem is fansites; can lie, I don't generally trust them. Also theyre are not all encompassing |
| 07:41.57 | Aiiane | ,,, |
| 07:42.06 | DarkTrooper | lol and the offical ones can't lie? wtf? |
| 07:42.07 | Aiiane | Which is why there's more than one. |
| 07:42.08 | hiblios | because they are once again probably only visited by 10% of the community |
| 07:42.22 | hiblios | So there will be guilds outside of the fansite circle |
| 07:42.26 | Aiiane | Perhaps you haven't noticed the *Mythic employees* posting on WHA? |
| 07:42.32 | hiblios | who will be progressing and no one will know |
| 07:42.38 | Aiiane | ...so? let them |
| 07:42.42 | DarkTrooper | everyone will know via the herald |
| 07:42.42 | hiblios | and thats my biggest fear |
| 07:42.52 | Aiiane | ...progressing *what*? |
| 07:42.53 | `Zypher | hiblios: realm war? |
| 07:42.53 | DarkTrooper | and they'll ask someone about it in game, and they'll be directed to a fansite forum |
| 07:42.54 | Aiiane | this isn't wow |
| 07:43.06 | Aiiane | the only thing to progress in is renown and guild rank |
| 07:43.10 | `Zypher | hiblios: no one really cares about the pve atm lol |
| 07:43.11 | Aiiane | both of which are listed on Realm WAR |
| 07:43.14 | hiblios | Progressing in the realm war |
| 07:43.20 | Aiiane | which is Mythic-run |
| 07:43.23 | Aiiane | and auto-updated |
| 07:43.25 | hiblios | progressing in other areas |
| 07:43.31 | Aiiane | ...what "other areas" |
| 07:43.32 | `Zypher | what other areas?? |
| 07:43.32 | DarkTrooper | 'other areas' |
| 07:43.34 | hiblios | not to mention you lose half of the bragging powers |
| 07:43.36 | hiblios | anyways |
| 07:43.39 | `Zypher | what? |
| 07:43.41 | `Zypher | whats going on |
| 07:43.45 | `Zypher | what are you braging about? |
| 07:43.50 | hiblios | games that focus on communities like mmos need forums |
| 07:43.58 | hiblios | beating other peoples asses? |
| 07:44.09 | hiblios | Being better than all the other guilds? |
| 07:44.15 | `Zypher | realm war.... |
| 07:44.22 | `Zypher | thats all there |
| 07:44.55 | hiblios | Does realm war let you write in huge capitals in your realm forum: "HAHAHA YOU GUYS GOT ASSRAPED: FALLOUT4LYFE" ? |
| 07:45.03 | `Zypher | no |
| 07:45.05 | `Zypher | but who wants that? |
| 07:45.12 | hiblios | I do |
| 07:45.12 | `Zypher | and whats a realm? |
| 07:45.18 | `Zypher | you mean server? |
| 07:45.22 | hiblios | its part of what keeps proper mmo pvp communities alive |
| 07:45.32 | hiblios | shit talking and rivalries |
| 07:45.43 | Aiiane | which fansites work fine for. |
| 07:45.48 | `Zypher | yarly. |
| 07:46.12 | DarkTrooper | anyone that wants to 'teabag' someone, well perhaps their input into the community isn't welcome in the first place :) |
| 07:46.13 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I did some formatting to SCT and I think its worthy of a commit but addon author isn't here. |
| 07:46.14 | DarkTrooper | dinner |
| 07:46.28 | hiblios | See but then again |
| 07:46.35 | hiblios | not everyone is gonna be on fansites |
| 07:46.44 | hiblios | and its more likely for more people to be on official forums |
| 07:46.49 | hiblios | no matter how popular a fansite is |
| 07:46.49 | Aiiane | Not really. |
| 07:46.59 | hiblios | so say i go into a battle, and totally rape these guys |
| 07:47.03 | hiblios | and i want to brag about it |
| 07:47.07 | hiblios | and post a screenshot and be like |
| 07:47.09 | hiblios | haha pwned |
| 07:47.14 | hiblios | not that I'd do that |
| 07:47.20 | hiblios | because I'm really not a pvp person |
| 07:47.30 | hiblios | but theres a great chance, that they would never see it |
| 07:47.33 | hiblios | so whats the point? |
| 07:47.41 | Aiiane | hint |
| 07:47.44 | Aiiane | if you want them to see it |
| 07:47.54 | Aiiane | go to their guild forum |
| 07:47.56 | Aiiane | or whatever |
| 07:47.57 | Aiiane | and do it there |
| 07:48.08 | Aiiane | but either way |
| 07:48.14 | Aiiane | that's not really a reason to have official forums |
| 07:48.26 | Aiiane | it doesn't justify the cost, or drawbacks |
| 07:48.50 | hiblios | Anyways |
| 07:48.51 | Aiiane | DAOC didn't have official forums either |
| 07:49.00 | hiblios | if there were official forums I could probably find a guild to join |
| 07:49.01 | Aiiane | and it's probably the closest you could get to the same type of game |
| 07:49.02 | hiblios | but there aren't any |
| 07:49.05 | hiblios | so i cant find one |
| 07:49.11 | Aiiane | hint... WHA has recruitment forums |
| 07:49.12 | Aiiane | go use them |
| 07:49.15 | `Zypher | hiblios: there are plenty of posts on WHA |
| 07:49.25 | hiblios | Not for the server im on |
| 07:49.32 | Aiiane | which is? |
| 07:49.35 | hiblios | hell its not even in the server list |
| 07:49.55 | Aiiane | then it hasn't been created yet, because Mythic is still constantly adding servers. |
| 07:50.01 | Aiiane | rather than bitching, try being patient. |
| 07:50.22 | hiblios | i dont remember |
| 07:50.28 | hiblios | all the servers have really weird names |
| 07:50.42 | hiblios | Estalia |
| 07:51.13 | Aiiane | Again, give it time. Half of the open beta servers just came up less than 24 hours ago. |
| 07:51.45 | hiblios | anyways |
| 07:51.54 | hiblios | I've been everywhere and have yet to see anyone talk |
| 07:52.04 | hiblios | yet in the starting zone there were at least 400 people runnning around |
| 07:52.42 | Aiiane | yes, because people are preoccupied with the new game they just got their hands on |
| 07:53.23 | Aiiane | this is surprising why? |
| 07:53.31 | `Zypher | hiblios: in my opinion it shows that mythic made the questing self explanitory, and players don't need to ask dumb questions. |
| 07:53.43 | `Zypher | which is a good thing. |
| 07:53.57 | hiblios | because its a mmorpg |
| 07:54.02 | Aiiane | ...and? |
| 07:54.06 | hiblios | generally community, speaking, you know thats the main part of the experience |
| 07:54.16 | Aiiane | Hah. |
| 07:54.16 | `Zypher | hiblios: not its not. |
| 07:54.21 | Aiiane | My my, you have a lot to learn. |
| 07:54.21 | `Zypher | no* |
| 07:54.27 | hiblios | thats the reason most people play this shit hell you could get good quests from any old rpg |
| 07:54.49 | Aiiane | Actually, the majority of people who play MMOs either play them solo or with a small group of friends. |
| 07:54.57 | Aiiane | Ironic, isn't it. |
| 07:54.58 | hiblios | look thats why I play, I'm sure you have other reasons but to me its all about community |
| 07:55.07 | hiblios | otherwise I'd just boot up oblivion |
| 07:55.15 | `Zypher | hiblios: but you don't represent the whole community |
| 07:55.16 | Aiiane | Congrats. Last I checked, you're also not the community incarnate. |
| 07:57.30 | DarkTrooper | lol are yous still arguing over this |
| 07:57.56 | `Zypher | hiblios: try playing with your friends instead of expecting a community in a game that a lot of players are just stepping into. |
| 07:58.27 | `Zypher | hiblios: I play with my younger brother, and i'm actually fairly happy with the lack of spam in chat channels. |
| 07:58.41 | hiblios | I don't have friends |
| 07:59.06 | Aiiane | May I suggest attempting to acquire some then |
| 07:59.19 | Aiiane | rather than trying to force Mythic to acquire them for you |
| 08:00.21 | hiblios | well I have friends |
| 08:00.28 | hiblios | but not ones that waste their lives on mmos |
| 08:00.36 | hiblios | do you know how long it takes to reach end game in a typical mmo |
| 08:00.41 | hiblios | most people have lives |
| 08:01.18 | `Zypher | hiblios: that for one makes warhammer different then other mmos |
| 08:01.25 | `Zypher | you don't have to be max level to have fun |
| 08:01.32 | Aiiane | Out of curiosity, hiblios, how old are you? |
| 08:02.20 | hiblios | 19 |
| 08:02.30 | hiblios | im a hardcore player |
| 08:02.34 | hiblios | i don't do shit halfways |
| 08:02.37 | hiblios | end game or bust |
| 08:03.04 | Aiiane | Might I suggest that you apply the same ethos to your logical arguments, then? |
| 08:03.19 | DarkTrooper | just another curiosity, if you're not a pvp person, why would you want to play warhammer? |
| 08:03.33 | Aiiane | ^ that too. |
| 08:03.54 | Aiiane | Warhammer's endgame *is* PvP. Not sure if you realize that. |
| 08:03.55 | `Zypher | hiblios: I'm one of the most hardcore players I know and I've never felt a need to be 40 in warhammer. |
| 08:06.40 | hiblios | im playing warhammer because everyone is |
| 08:07.03 | `Zypher | hiblios: who is? |
| 08:07.09 | `Zypher | who is everyone* |
| 08:07.38 | DarkTrooper | i think he means the sheep |
| 08:08.10 | `Zypher | sheeps are cute. |
| 08:08.23 | Aiiane | sheep are flammable. sort of. |
| 08:08.26 | DarkTrooper | you sure you're not from NZ `Zypher? |
| 08:08.36 | Aiiane | `Zypher is not a kiwi. |
| 08:08.57 | hiblios | Idk |
| 08:09.00 | DarkTrooper | opps, i should have put a smily or something on that line |
| 08:09.03 | hiblios | i liked what i heard |
| 08:09.09 | Aiiane | what did you hear? |
| 08:09.11 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: I live about 5:30 hours north of Aiiane |
| 08:09.16 | hiblios | i heard good pvp |
| 08:09.18 | hiblios | balanced pvp |
| 08:09.26 | Aiiane | you also said you weren't much of a pvp person... |
| 08:09.29 | hiblios | althought it hasn't really been blaanced so far |
| 08:09.30 | hiblios | im not |
| 08:09.36 | hiblios | because pvp is imbalanced |
| 08:09.39 | hiblios | by nature |
| 08:09.44 | DarkTrooper | ya, it was just a dig zyph, the running joke in au is that NZers "like" sheep :) |
| 08:09.56 | Aiiane | hiblios: what's your highest level character, and what career is it |
| 08:09.57 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: lol I gotcha |
| 08:10.22 | hiblios | level 9 dwarf runepriest |
| 08:10.52 | DarkTrooper | perasonlly any toon lower than career rank 20, can't be taken seriously, in terms of end game potential/etc, which includes all of my toons, heh |
| 08:11.16 | Aiiane | First of all, tier 1 content is pretty much a different ballgame, due to a lack of abilities |
| 08:11.30 | Aiiane | second of all, you're playing in pugs, since, as you said, you have no friends |
| 08:12.53 | Aiiane | third of all, you're playing at the initial launch of open beta, when almost no one has any clue what the hell they're doing and thus the classes that are simplest to understand seem the most powerful |
| 08:13.18 | DarkTrooper | cue PQ after PQ of DoK's not healing :) |
| 08:13.24 | Aiiane | ^ |
| 08:13.39 | DarkTrooper | once a few worked it out, they went MUCH more smoothly |
| 08:14.51 | Aiiane | In a nutshell, hiblios |
| 08:14.58 | Aiiane | you have next to no experience to base your conclusions off of |
| 08:15.09 | Aiiane | yet you're going on as if you're an expert analyst |
| 08:15.22 | Aiiane | when you're clearly not. |
| 08:15.31 | DarkTrooper | i'm an expert analyst... |
| 08:15.33 | `Zypher | Aiiane: <3 you when your angry! |
| 08:15.33 | DarkTrooper | ... but not on warhammer :) |
| 08:16.16 | Aiiane | I'm angry? News to me... |
| 08:16.27 | DarkTrooper | i'd call it feisty |
| 08:16.57 | Aiiane | The <3 part I guessed and it's a little creepy but whatever |
| 08:16.59 | DarkTrooper | you're like a crocadile, quick to snap... but arn't all... |
| 08:17.14 | `Zypher | Aiiane: just trying to change the topic. |
| 08:17.25 | DarkTrooper | i ahve a great topic changer |
| 08:17.31 | `Zypher | gogo |
| 08:17.37 | DarkTrooper | i can't for the life of me work out how to do visual elements on a screen |
| 08:17.48 | Aiiane | uh oh, here we go again |
| 08:17.50 | Aiiane | :P |
| 08:17.56 | DarkTrooper | i still can't get my little 'frame' (which i now think isn't one really) to move |
| 08:17.57 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: what do you mean.... |
| 08:18.05 | `Zypher | set it to movable silly. |
| 08:18.08 | `Zypher | movable=true |
| 08:18.17 | Aiiane | I'm just going to pre-emptively say "pastey your code", DarkTrooper |
| 08:18.28 | DarkTrooper | haha |
| 08:18.49 | `Zypher | do it. |
| 08:18.50 | DarkTrooper | i tried to get a little status bar too, epic fails, lol |
| 08:19.03 | `Zypher | Aiiane: so what do you think I should do about SCT? |
| 08:19.14 | Aiiane | `Zypher: *shrug* |
| 08:19.18 | Aiiane | Not my addon |
| 08:19.26 | `Zypher | figured. |
| 08:19.33 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:19.43 | `Zypher | well I'll just keep it to myself |
| 08:19.47 | `Zypher | and people will ask me |
| 08:19.50 | `Zypher | what addon is dat! |
| 08:19.53 | `Zypher | and I shall lie! |
| 08:20.06 | Aiiane | or you could write your own version :P |
| 08:21.30 | `Zypher | Aiiane: but that would be more work then I want to do atm. |
| 08:22.13 | `Zypher | also I have a story to tell. |
| 08:22.46 | `Zypher | I was on facebook today and there was this girl who used to be in my wow guild. It was her birthday so I said happy bday... |
| 08:22.57 | `Zypher | so she responds with omg long time no see.... |
| 08:23.00 | `Zypher | so we start talking |
| 08:23.10 | `Zypher | and she tells me her boyfriend wants to have a threesome |
| 08:23.13 | `Zypher | with two guys |
| 08:23.20 | `Zypher | and I said, thats a little wierd. |
| 08:23.33 | `Zypher | she says "well my boyfriend is bisexual" |
| 08:23.37 | Aiiane | the fact that you're mentioning it here |
| 08:23.39 | `Zypher | and I proceeded to log off facebook. |
| 08:23.45 | Aiiane | it also a little weird |
| 08:23.47 | `Zypher | ues |
| 08:23.48 | `Zypher | yes. |
| 08:23.49 | Aiiane | *is |
| 08:23.57 | `Zypher | I'm a little weird. |
| 08:24.17 | `Zypher | also in weird, shouldn't it be spelled Wierd? |
| 08:24.25 | `Zypher | w != c |
| 08:24.42 | `Zypher | I just had a redbull |
| 08:24.49 | `Zypher | if im coming across as hyper. |
| 08:25.28 | DarkTrooper | http://waruidev.pastey.net/95571 commence laughing ;) |
| 08:26.26 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: where do you call for that window to be created? |
| 08:26.28 | `Zypher | in lua |
| 08:26.31 | `Zypher | or mod? |
| 08:26.34 | DarkTrooper | in the .mod |
| 08:26.45 | `Zypher | do you set it to showing? |
| 08:26.56 | DarkTrooper | err, let me check |
| 08:27.28 | DarkTrooper | <OnInitialize> |
| 08:27.28 | DarkTrooper | <CreateWindow name="HudSpace" show="true" /> |
| 08:27.28 | DarkTrooper | </OnInitialize> |
| 08:27.31 | DarkTrooper | so that's a yes? |
| 08:27.46 | `Zypher | yes |
| 08:27.54 | `Zypher | let me actually look at the xml now |
| 08:27.55 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:29.05 | `Zypher | ok |
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| 08:30.14 | `Zypher | im confused too |
| 08:30.22 | Aiiane | good times, good day, good riddance... |
| 08:30.29 | `Zypher | brb bathroom |
| 08:30.29 | DarkTrooper | deshou! |
| 08:30.33 | DarkTrooper | to both comments |
| 08:30.55 | DarkTrooper | tho, that does sound a tad like AngryAiiane |
| 08:31.36 | DarkTrooper | bloody hell, now there's a 100 long queue to get into the server -_- |
| 08:31.36 | Aiiane | no, just jaded aii |
| 08:31.56 | Aiiane | if you ever manage to see angryaii, you'll know it |
| 08:32.10 | Aiiane | but that's unlikely |
| 08:32.12 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I wanna see it. |
| 08:32.33 | DarkTrooper | evidently, i thought you were goign to go on a /ignore spree yesterday, or was it the day before that, probably both |
| 08:32.51 | Aiiane | with who? |
| 08:32.57 | Aiiane | or for who, I guess |
| 08:33.16 | DarkTrooper | randome people you seemed to be getting anoyed with, of which i was a member of said group :) |
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| 08:34.59 | `Zypher | Thrae: sounds really familiar |
| 08:35.03 | `Zypher | do I know you? |
| 08:35.26 | Thrae | I develop WoW Addons. |
| 08:36.20 | DarkTrooper | and now you wish to make warhammer ones, excellent |
| 08:36.39 | `Zypher | Thrae: which? |
| 08:36.42 | Thrae | Not "wish". "have" ;) |
| 08:37.09 | DarkTrooper | awesome, more addons the better imo |
| 08:38.47 | `Zypher | oooo |
| 08:38.50 | `Zypher | TinyTip |
| 08:38.52 | `Zypher | coolio |
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| 08:39.29 | DarkTrooper | oh yeah, someone needs to make a tooltip addon like enhtooltip/stubby used to do, you know how it had all that info about regular sell price etc? |
| 08:40.09 | Thrae | DarkTrooper: A lot of it came from its own database, some of it came from WoW's own interface. |
| 08:40.20 | DarkTrooper | yup, i know, and it was awesome :) |
| 08:40.31 | Thrae | It's not hard to make a database addon, it's just a huge PITA. |
| 08:40.43 | Aiiane | Pretty much. |
| 08:40.46 | Aiiane | also, http://www.asylum.com/2008/06/13/photobombers-ruining-your-picture-one-click-at-a-time/ |
| 08:40.54 | `Zypher | I'm just curious how many peoples will end up coming from wow... |
| 08:40.59 | DarkTrooper | and i would be most grateful to the person that undertakes that huge PITA :) |
| 08:41.44 | `Zypher | Aiiane: aids. |
| 08:51.13 | Daegalus | O.o http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=13 there are 6 abilities in each mastery xD |
| 08:53.04 | Daegalus | i think they need to do a partial DB wipe of all info from prior to PW+ because a lot of item, quest, skill, and NPC info is incorrect now. |
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| 08:56.25 | Aiiane | night all |
| 08:57.18 | Daegalus | night |
| 09:19.47 | DarkTrooper | i know it's beta, but fail servers are fail |
| 09:19.54 | DarkTrooper | oceanic ones just crashed again |
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| 10:46.01 | Daegalus | wow Iain, really made the whole goa thing worse |
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| 12:43.02 | Bouvi | Now two windows to keep up with :P |
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| 14:10.15 | ckknight | hey everyone, how you all doing? |
| 14:10.48 | ChryzoPhylax | hi ckknight |
| 14:10.55 | ChryzoPhylax | do you have any knowledge about mediawiki ^^ ? |
| 14:11.06 | ckknight | what kind of knowledge? |
| 14:11.15 | ckknight | I don't know too much about the intricacies |
| 14:11.16 | ChryzoPhylax | admin kind |
| 14:11.21 | ckknight | sadly, no |
| 14:11.25 | ChryzoPhylax | arf :( |
| 14:11.27 | ChryzoPhylax | too bad |
| 14:11.33 | ChryzoPhylax | tx anyway ^^ |
| 14:12.41 | ckknight | Aiiane probably knows more than me |
| 14:18.19 | ChryzoPhylax | k |
| 14:18.28 | ChryzoPhylax | if she doesn't have me on ignore hahaha :) |
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| 15:13.31 | *** topic/#waruidev is http://waruidev.pastey.net/ | http://forums.curseforge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 | See http://thewarwiki.com/ for API info | http://www.wardb.com | Create WAR addons on http://war.curseforge.com/ | WHA Mod Author Group: http://tinyurl.com/wha-mods |
| 15:13.39 | ChryzoPhylax | if the file can be read my a human... you are screwed |
| 15:13.43 | ChryzoPhylax | it is as simpled as that |
| 15:13.47 | ckknight | koboldkiller: which site? |
| 15:13.51 | ChryzoPhylax | however you can always try to put an algorithm in :) |
| 15:13.53 | koboldkiller | mmodb. |
| 15:14.16 | koboldkiller | yeah, you cant stop people cmpletely, but youc an make it tougher on them |
| 15:14.43 | ChryzoPhylax | yes |
| 15:14.46 | koboldkiller | if nothign else can write some code to do it, but was hoping there was something out there |
| 15:15.07 | ChryzoPhylax | i haven't heard of any |
| 15:15.17 | ChryzoPhylax | and frankly i would be amazed at seeing how they would do it ^^ |
| 15:15.24 | ChryzoPhylax | you can always use obscuration techniques though |
| 15:15.26 | ckknight | koboldkiller: I wrote an obfuscator for lua :-P |
| 15:15.29 | ckknight | not available, though |
| 15:15.37 | ChryzoPhylax | have a version of the file clean |
| 15:15.44 | ChryzoPhylax | and then make a replace system ^^ |
| 15:15.44 | Bouvi | http://www.bouvi.com/sigs/chuckwar1.jpg |
| 15:15.58 | ChryzoPhylax | parser + replace can do the work ^^ |
| 15:16.17 | ChryzoPhylax | but frankly that can easily be reversed engineered ^^ |
| 15:16.32 | ChryzoPhylax | but then... i am not your usual player anymore anyway ^^ |
| 15:27.52 | Kaelten | just a heads up guys we've added more categories on CurseForge |
| 15:28.06 | ChryzoPhylax | yeaha |
| 15:29.16 | Kaelten | its not perfect and we'll be adding more after the new curse.com launches |
| 15:35.04 | ghostfish | ohh, pretty new patcher/launcher |
| 15:37.18 | ghostfish | erm, encrypt the data upload so it can't be read by anyone but you? |
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| 16:17.19 | ChryzoPhylax | if someone wants to have fun |
| 16:17.20 | ChryzoPhylax | http://www.war-europe.com/?error=5x00 |
| 16:17.28 | ChryzoPhylax | you can get all the error codes possible hahaha |
| 16:17.35 | ChryzoPhylax | by modifing the value of the error |
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| 16:42.12 | `Zypher | Morning ladies and gents |
| 16:42.47 | sOLARiZ | good morning zypher |
| 16:45.03 | ckknight | howdy, `Zypher |
| 16:45.38 | ckknight | I think http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000FKBCX4/ is kinda funny, all-in-all |
| 16:47.56 | `Zypher | ckknight: have you heard from Askanko recently? |
| 16:48.03 | ckknight | sadly, no |
| 16:48.17 | ckknight | he no longer plays WAR |
| 16:48.40 | `Zypher | ckknight: I need to send him an email then, I've done some updating to SCT that I would like to push to curseforge. |
| 16:48.58 | ckknight | for now, clone it |
| 16:49.06 | ckknight | and work on the clone and upload there |
| 16:49.13 | ckknight | but I can get you his email address |
| 16:49.22 | `Zypher | I can find it ;) |
| 17:14.27 | sOLARiZ | Hmm can somebody giving me a tip which function to hook for the normal chatwindow text events ? (receive text before display) |
| 17:16.01 | ChryzoPhylax | Events.MessageArrived ? |
| 17:17.09 | ChryzoPhylax | SystemData.Events.CHAT_TEXT_ARRIVED |
| 17:17.49 | sOLARiZ | will check thx |
| 17:18.22 | sOLARiZ | fu.. put a beer in the frige 2h ago.... now it's frozen.... *grmp* :( |
| 17:18.31 | sOLARiZ | fridge |
| 17:25.10 | sOLARiZ | ok SystemData.Events.CHAT_TEXT_ARRIVED is triggerd on what I want but how to get the object containing the parameters what pulled the trigger ? arg1 -arg8 are nil |
| 17:27.13 | ChryzoPhylax | oh |
| 17:27.16 | ChryzoPhylax | gimme a minute |
| 17:27.19 | ChryzoPhylax | need to load the file again |
| 17:28.05 | sOLARiZ | I tryed also GameData.ChatData.name but thats nil too |
| 17:29.49 | sOLARiZ | ah no it isnt nil only if I call an empty arg before. so GameData.Player.name this one I got need only the rest ;p |
| 17:31.21 | sOLARiZ | I will do a table dump |
| 17:31.34 | ChryzoPhylax | funny enough... i can't find the code |
| 17:31.45 | sOLARiZ | :p |
| 17:32.07 | sOLARiZ | GameData.ChatData is missing in the API docu so I make a dump and submit it |
| 17:32.20 | ChryzoPhylax | yeah :) |
| 17:32.24 | ChryzoPhylax | spam incoming |
| 17:32.25 | ChryzoPhylax | function ChatWindow.UpdateNewTextAlert( wndNum ) |
| 17:32.25 | ChryzoPhylax | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.25 | ChryzoPhylax | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.25 | ChryzoPhylax | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.25 | ChryzoPhylax | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:32.43 | sOLARiZ | :p |
| 17:32.52 | ChryzoPhylax | you got it all ^^ ? |
| 17:32.58 | sOLARiZ | better use http://waruidev.pastey.net/ |
| 17:33.02 | ChryzoPhylax | there is no reference to actually displaying the text |
| 17:33.03 | ChryzoPhylax | right :) |
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| 17:35.24 | ChryzoPhylax | http://waruidev.pastey.net/95615 |
| 17:35.30 | ChryzoPhylax | that is the method called |
| 17:35.34 | ChryzoPhylax | i did not find any other |
| 17:35.41 | ChryzoPhylax | but i don't have the time to do a thorough search |
| 17:35.49 | ckknight | @ticket curseforge 582 is fixed now |
| 17:35.49 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/582-turn-on-repo-keyword-substitutions-for-mod-files/. 582 - Turn on repo keyword substitutions for .mod files. Reported by: Aiiane. Type: Defect. Updated: 26 seconds ago. Component: Packager. Status: Fixed. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
| 17:35.49 | sOLARiZ | ok thanks |
| 17:36.19 | sOLARiZ | gj :p |
| 17:39.14 | Eraphine | Hello |
| 17:41.07 | `Zypher | its finger lickin' good yall! |
| 17:46.18 | Repo | zchatwindow: 03adalyn * v0.1-5-gab80980 core.lua: fixes for a few bugs |
| 17:47.16 | `Zypher | anyone know how LabelSetFont(,,) works? |
| 17:47.49 | `Zypher | figure its like |
| 17:48.00 | `Zypher | LabelSetFont(labelname, font, ?) |
| 18:01.50 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.53 | `Zypher | wiinnnn |
| 18:01.54 | `Zypher | :D |
| 18:10.07 | `Zypher | ckknight: I sent him an email hopefully he responds :P |
| 18:10.13 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:10.25 | `Zypher | ok so if I clone it can I keep it from publishing files? |
| 18:10.30 | `Zypher | to curse |
| 18:10.39 | ckknight | it won't publish clones' files to curse |
| 18:10.47 | ckknight | only mainline is sync'd |
| 18:10.49 | `Zypher | ok |
| 18:10.50 | `Zypher | ocol |
| 18:10.52 | `Zypher | cool* |
| 18:10.52 | ckknight | for now, at least |
| 18:11.04 | ckknight | also, you have to make sure to change what will get packaged, clones default to no packaging |
| 18:11.16 | ckknight | unless you're just uploading zips or something |
| 18:11.40 | `Zypher | ckknight: kk |
| 18:14.39 | Repo | sct: 03adalyn 06adalyns-clone * 6b600575933c /: Initial commit, supports font changing and scaling |
| 18:14.51 | `Zypher | ckknight: cool? |
| 18:14.56 | ckknight | sweet |
| 18:15.06 | `Zypher | I should probably add more fonts lol |
| 18:15.08 | ckknight | purple |
| 18:15.30 | `Zypher | external fonts just like textures don't work atm |
| 18:15.32 | `Zypher | :S |
| 18:18.34 | Repo | sct: 03adalyn 06adalyns-clone * 319baebd60b0 SCT.lua: cleanup |
| 18:21.38 | `Zypher | heh I should add support for colors |
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| 18:26.47 | `Zypher | Kargor: hey. |
| 18:26.55 | Kargor | hi |
| 18:27.13 | `Zypher | did you get my email? |
| 18:27.18 | Kargor | yes |
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| 19:09.00 | hiblios | hellooooooo cccccockmonglers |
| 19:11.13 | hiblios | we need a bongos port for war |
| 19:11.42 | ChryzoPhylax | lua inheritance sux |
| 19:11.49 | ChryzoPhylax | either i can't even code the example |
| 19:11.53 | ChryzoPhylax | or it does not work |
| 19:11.58 | ChryzoPhylax | or it has been disabled somehow |
| 19:13.15 | ChryzoPhylax | heu... stupid question |
| 19:13.19 | ChryzoPhylax | forget that |
| 19:13.27 | ChryzoPhylax | how do you test for the presence of a function in lua ? |
| 19:17.30 | ckknight | hiblios: don't call us cockmonglers |
| 19:17.43 | ckknight | I've mongled a total of 0 cocks |
| 19:17.50 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: how do you mean? |
| 19:17.58 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: if dealy then dealy() end |
| 19:18.08 | ChryzoPhylax | like if an object has a method |
| 19:18.13 | ChryzoPhylax | object:method() |
| 19:18.23 | ChryzoPhylax | if ( object:method ~= nil) then dosomething end |
| 19:18.32 | ChryzoPhylax | testing for the presence of a method in an object |
| 19:18.34 | hiblios | man |
| 19:18.39 | hiblios | everyone knows your a fagggg |
| 19:18.53 | hiblios | dude they haven't even released all the documentation for the lua |
| 19:19.02 | hiblios | api |
| 19:19.08 | ckknight | hiblios: one more inappropriate comment and you'll be kickbanned |
| 19:19.22 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: if object.method then object:method() end |
| 19:19.23 | hiblios | aw man you know you love me |
| 19:19.35 | ChryzoPhylax | ckknight: ain't working |
| 19:19.43 | ckknight | pastey your code. |
| 19:20.01 | ChryzoPhylax | a sec, modified it ^^ |
| 19:20.10 | ChryzoPhylax | to test another thingy |
| 19:20.45 | ChryzoPhylax | seems like: if (type(value.EventHandler) == "function") then worked |
| 19:21.06 | ckknight | yea, that'll do |
| 19:21.18 | ChryzoPhylax | lemme test back the value:method thingy |
| 19:22.20 | ckknight | ? |
| 19:22.53 | `Zypher | hiblios: ckknight isn't as nice as me and Aiiane. |
| 19:23.03 | ckknight | truth |
| 19:24.45 | ChryzoPhylax | 08/09/2008 22:21:12 (Error)CEGUI::ScriptException in file .\Src\VirtualMachine.cpp(128) : ..\CPT_StateController\CPT_StateController.lua:81: function arguments expected near ')' |
| 19:24.53 | ChryzoPhylax | except the syntax is correct .... |
| 19:26.03 | ckknight | except that no, it's not |
| 19:26.15 | ckknight | paste the line |
| 19:26.17 | ChryzoPhylax | if (type(value:EventHandler) == "function") then |
| 19:26.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:26.22 | ckknight | very wrong. |
| 19:26.25 | ChryzoPhylax | ? |
| 19:26.38 | ckknight | object:method() => object.method(object) |
| 19:26.42 | ckknight | that's how lua works |
| 19:26.49 | ckknight | so object:method means nothing |
| 19:26.51 | ChryzoPhylax | right |
| 19:26.57 | ChryzoPhylax | so i need to test for the global one |
| 19:27.00 | ChryzoPhylax | i hate lua :) |
| 19:27.02 | ckknight | test for object.method |
| 19:27.07 | ChryzoPhylax | i love strong typed languages ^^ |
| 19:27.09 | ChryzoPhylax | tx |
| 19:27.36 | ChryzoPhylax | i wouldn't even need to test for the presence of the function in that kind of language |
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| 19:27.38 | ckknight | you mean statically typed languages? |
| 19:27.45 | ChryzoPhylax | i mean like C++ |
| 19:28.14 | ChryzoPhylax | C# |
| 19:28.16 | ckknight | C++ is static-typed, weak-typed |
| 19:28.19 | Aiiane | morning all |
| 19:28.21 | ckknight | C# is static-typed, strong-typed |
| 19:28.33 | ChryzoPhylax | huh? what is the diff between weak and strong ? |
| 19:28.52 | `Zypher | Aiiane: morning |
| 19:28.59 | ChryzoPhylax | Aiiane: morning :) |
| 19:29.24 | hiblios | I wonder if they'll ever fix pets |
| 19:29.25 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: whether data can be trusted not to change, whether you can shove random bytes into something and call it an object |
| 19:29.54 | ckknight | since in C and C++, you can cast pretty much anything (void* for example) into anything else, it can be considered weakly typed |
| 19:30.09 | ckknight | you can't do that in e.g. C# or Python |
| 19:30.15 | Aiiane | int b = (int) true |
| 19:30.16 | Aiiane | :P |
| 19:30.17 | ChryzoPhylax | i did not know that about C++ |
| 19:30.28 | ChryzoPhylax | always thought the compiler was checking for that kind of stuff |
| 19:30.39 | Aiiane | it is, but it'll just give you a warning |
| 19:30.45 | Aiiane | and if you explicitly cast it, it won't even warn you |
| 19:30.51 | ChryzoPhylax | lol ok |
| 19:31.03 | ChryzoPhylax | guess been too long since i did any C++ |
| 19:31.24 | hiblios | and iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii will always love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 19:31.44 | `rizzen | who wants to learn c# anyways |
| 19:31.45 | `rizzen | god |
| 19:31.45 | ckknight | I like strongly-typed languages, and whether static or dynamically typed is situational for me |
| 19:32.11 | hiblios | I don't like any languages |
| 19:32.15 | hiblios | i don't know how to code |
| 19:32.52 | hiblios | God I hate the action bars in WAR so much |
| 19:33.02 | ChryzoPhylax | rizzen what do you have against C# ? |
| 19:34.41 | rizzen | i got nothing against c# |
| 19:34.56 | rizzen | i do all me coding in java and perl atm |
| 19:35.09 | ChryzoPhylax | java J2EE ? |
| 19:35.10 | rizzen | gotta bust out c for my o/s class this year though >> |
| 19:35.15 | Kargor | coding in assembly languages is the real fun |
| 19:35.23 | rizzen | oh fuck that |
| 19:35.27 | rizzen | mips can suck on my dick |
| 19:35.34 | ChryzoPhylax | Kargor: it is frigging useful :) |
| 19:35.40 | rizzen | engineers can have all the fun with that shit |
| 19:35.46 | ChryzoPhylax | lol |
| 19:35.49 | rizzen | i'll stick to my higher level of abstraction |
| 19:35.54 | rizzen | and with that, my new tower is here |
| 19:35.59 | rizzen | time to transpose computer parts! |
| 19:36.05 | ChryzoPhylax | it is good to study a bit about what becomes of one's code rizzen :) |
| 19:36.16 | ChryzoPhylax | once you have looked at that... you code... differently ^^ |
| 19:36.21 | ChryzoPhylax | tss |
| 19:36.22 | ChryzoPhylax | lol |
| 19:36.53 | Aiiane | ~poke Kargor |
| 19:36.53 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Kargor, pokes Kargor repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:36.54 | hiblios | i do all my coding in my own language |
| 19:36.58 | hiblios | its called noncode |
| 19:37.01 | hiblios | because i can't code |
| 19:37.07 | ChryzoPhylax | :) |
| 19:37.19 | Aiiane | Yes, you've mentioned that fact at least once already hiblios |
| 19:37.24 | Kargor | try brainfuck hiblios |
| 19:37.55 | ckknight | Kargor: I actually wrote a brainfuck interpreter in x86 ASM for class once |
| 19:38.04 | Kargor | lol |
| 19:38.19 | ckknight | I also ended up writing a .NET brainfuck compiler (so it'd properly compile into MSIL) |
| 19:38.34 | ChryzoPhylax | nice |
| 19:39.16 | Repo | sct: 03adalyn 06adalyns-clone * 35efbf3671f2 SCT.lua: adding more fonts |
| 19:40.00 | tronned | is it possible to turn a wstring value into a table name (with subsequent fields) ? |
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| 19:40.06 | ckknight | hrm, writing a lua brainfuck compiler would be interesting |
| 19:40.18 | ckknight | to create a proper lua program, not just interpreted |
| 19:41.30 | Aiiane | tronned: do you mean like _G[WStringToString(myWStringTableName)].whatever.whatever? |
| 19:41.33 | `Zypher | ckknight: brainfuck just sounds like a total waste of time lol |
| 19:41.44 | Aiiane | `Zypher: it is |
| 19:41.47 | Aiiane | it's also hilarious |
| 19:41.56 | `Zypher | It looks funny |
| 19:41.57 | `Zypher | ya |
| 19:42.03 | hiblios | man im so fat...... |
| 19:42.09 | hiblios | i need to lose weight |
| 19:42.27 | `Zypher | I need peoples to try my mods to sct |
| 19:42.30 | `Zypher | and tell me what you think |
| 19:42.33 | `Zypher | kthnxbai |
| 19:42.50 | sOLARiZ | what have you modded on sct ? |
| 19:43.00 | `Zypher | added font scaling |
| 19:43.03 | `Zypher | and font changing |
| 19:43.09 | `Zypher | go try it! |
| 19:43.37 | sOLARiZ | download or already at cf ? |
| 19:44.00 | `Zypher | its on CF under the original sct |
| 19:44.07 | `Zypher | but its a clone by moi |
| 19:44.08 | sOLARiZ | will check |
| 19:44.20 | hiblios | Its raining men! |
| 19:44.23 | hiblios | Hallelujah |
| 19:44.27 | hiblios | Its raining mennnnnnn |
| 19:44.28 | ckknight | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/sct/repositories/adalyns-clone/ |
| 19:44.41 | sOLARiZ | question beside that: does anybody succesfully find out how to fire a Alert ? I tried "AlertTextWindow.SetAlertData( SystemData.AlertText.Types.DEFAULT, "text" )" not working |
| 19:44.42 | hiblios | when is someone gonna come out with some alternate action bars? |
| 19:44.59 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: look at OverheadXP |
| 19:45.05 | `Zypher | I don't want to explain it |
| 19:45.16 | sOLARiZ | Zypher: ah ok I take a look |
| 19:46.16 | Aiiane | sOLARiZ: your main issue is that SetAlertData takes 2 tables, not 2 regular values :) |
| 19:46.50 | Aiiane | try doing what you did above, but put {} around each of the arguments |
| 19:47.19 | Aiiane | AlertTextWindow.SetAlertData( { SystemData.AlertText.Types.DEFAULT }, { L"text"} ) |
| 19:47.32 | Aiiane | (also remember that it needs to be L"text" since it's a wstring to be displayed) |
| 19:47.49 | sOLARiZ | thx |
| 19:48.25 | Aiiane | also, ckknight.... |
| 19:48.32 | Aiiane | @ticket curseforge 539 |
| 19:48.32 | Repo | Aiiane: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/539-irc-bot-doesnt-announce-hg-pushes/. 539 - irc bot doesn't announce hg pushes. Reported by: Aiiane. Type: Defect. Updated: 17 days ago. Component: Repositories. Status: Accepted. Priority: Critical. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +3. Comments: 0 |
| 19:48.34 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 19:48.35 | Aiiane | >:| |
| 19:48.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:49.17 | ckknight | got other stuff to do right now |
| 19:51.57 | sOLARiZ | ckknight: btw: "We're sorry, you've attempted to access a page that decided to jump off its flying mount high over shattrath and forgot to bubble. |
| 19:51.57 | sOLARiZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.11 | ChryzoPhylax | is there a simple way to copy a table ? |
| 19:52.15 | ckknight | blah! |
| 19:52.20 | sOLARiZ | :) |
| 19:52.40 | ChryzoPhylax | f*ck, inheritance not working :( |
| 19:52.55 | sOLARiZ | Chryzo MyTABLE = MyOldTable |
| 19:53.03 | Aiiane | that's a shallow copy |
| 19:53.06 | Aiiane | if you want to deep copy |
| 19:53.09 | ckknight | that's rather odd |
| 19:53.12 | Aiiane | you'll need to recurse through |
| 19:53.13 | ChryzoPhylax | as Aiiane said :) |
| 19:53.20 | ChryzoPhylax | k |
| 19:53.32 | Aiiane | http://lua-users.org/wiki/CopyTable |
| 19:53.37 | Aiiane | there's some lua code to deepcopy |
| 19:53.59 | ChryzoPhylax | Aiiane: nah don't need deepcopy |
| 19:53.59 | ChryzoPhylax | just first layer copy |
| 19:53.59 | Aiiane | then just iterate via ipairs() |
| 19:54.02 | ChryzoPhylax | and i first need to solve my inheritance problem ^^ |
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| 19:54.22 | Aiiane | also ChryzoPhylax, are you actually going to host easymyp somewhere? |
| 19:54.32 | ChryzoPhylax | sourceforge if I do, why ? |
| 19:54.37 | Aiiane | just curious |
| 19:54.45 | ChryzoPhylax | and if i get around to understand the workings of how to publish on sourceforge ^^ |
| 19:54.53 | Aiiane | why not just put it on google code? |
| 19:55.02 | ChryzoPhylax | could too |
| 19:55.11 | Aiiane | last I checked their system was more straightforward :P |
| 19:55.21 | ChryzoPhylax | hehe :) |
| 19:55.30 | ChryzoPhylax | i am a noob at CVS |
| 19:55.39 | ChryzoPhylax | so i can't do anything right on sourceforge |
| 19:56.29 | sOLARiZ | install Tortoise SVN for windows its pretty easy |
| 19:56.34 | ChryzoPhylax | i have the following: http://waruidev.pastey.net/95625 |
| 19:56.41 | ChryzoPhylax | sOLARiZ: that is what i usually use ^^ |
| 19:56.46 | ChryzoPhylax | but not what sourceforge uses |
| 19:57.07 | sOLARiZ | isnt sourceforge suvn capable... bahhh |
| 19:57.51 | hiblios | gah |
| 19:57.55 | ChryzoPhylax | they say so |
| 19:58.00 | hiblios | the goggles they do nothing! |
| 19:58.02 | ChryzoPhylax | but i have yet to find it ^^ |
| 19:58.24 | ChryzoPhylax | any idea why would the inheritance not work in the upper thingy ? |
| 19:58.53 | hiblios | how do I get to the capital cities? |
| 19:59.21 | ChryzoPhylax | hiblios: search for your country on wikipedia, find the capital city, then check an airline to book a plane ticket :) |
| 19:59.25 | sOLARiZ | `Zypher: seems to work at least the scaling you should write down waht the min and max scale is in the help and some font name. Dont have them all in my mind |
| 19:59.31 | hiblios | ........ |
| 19:59.34 | hiblios | hardy har har |
| 19:59.36 | Unremarkable | Hey, I've noticed people using API members that I can't find documented anywhere.. Is there trick to finding member methods and variables? |
| 19:59.45 | ChryzoPhylax | long way of saying i have no idea ^^ |
| 20:00.04 | sOLARiZ | you could unpack the MYP |
| 20:00.06 | `Zypher | Unremarkable: just thewarwiki.com |
| 20:00.22 | ChryzoPhylax | Unremarkable, a trick that takes 6 months to do right ^^ :) |
| 20:00.32 | Kargor | are there some statements from mythic about goa epic fail in the closed beta forum ? |
| 20:00.34 | Aiiane | off to class, be back in a bit |
| 20:00.40 | ChryzoPhylax | ++ |
| 20:00.43 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.08 | ChryzoPhylax | so no idea 'bout my inheritance buggsy ^^ ? |
| 20:01.08 | Aiiane | ckknight: just remember to exclude k = "_G" |
| 20:01.20 | Aiiane | oh, wait, you're just doing pairs() |
| 20:01.39 | Aiiane | I think you wanted ipairs no? :P |
| 20:01.46 | Aiiane | anywho, bbiab |
| 20:02.07 | hiblios | lol |
| 20:02.13 | hiblios | aiiane responded to my post on the forums |
| 20:02.52 | sOLARiZ | `Zypher: Another thing If i enter /sct scale 1 it gives me the feedback output scale = 1 if I enter /sct font 1 I get no feedback |
| 20:03.56 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: ya I've changed that in the next commit |
| 20:04.04 | `Zypher | along with heals actually showing as + |
| 20:04.08 | `Zypher | instead of everything just being - |
| 20:04.09 | `Zypher | lol |
| 20:04.21 | sOLARiZ | already up so i reload |
| 20:04.24 | sOLARiZ | ? |
| 20:04.30 | `Zypher | no |
| 20:04.33 | `Zypher | its not up yet. |
| 20:04.35 | `Zypher | gime a sec |
| 20:04.39 | sOLARiZ | k |
| 20:04.57 | hiblios | ok seriously thought...how do I get to the capital cities? |
| 20:06.11 | ChryzoPhylax | hiblios: search for your country on wikipedia, find the capital city, then check an airline to book a plane ticket :) |
| 20:07.42 | hiblios | man |
| 20:07.52 | hiblios | i need some like |
| 20:08.02 | sOLARiZ | aiiane: btw I have a small prob with the clean UF, the Healthbar of my char itself is empty even If I get bad damage: http://img.planetlanfiles.com/zyy4i_elinthil^m_000.jpg |
| 20:08.31 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: it moved btw. |
| 20:08.54 | Repo | schobers-sct: 03adalyn 06adalyns-clone * d834726bedbe SCT.lua: Healing shows properly. Feedback on font change |
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| 20:09.45 | hiblios | man this game needs a lag indicator |
| 20:09.48 | hiblios | it doesnt have one |
| 20:10.34 | Kargor | the game needs a better european publisher http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7104/war1fr9.jpg |
| 20:11.02 | sOLARiZ | :p |
| 20:12.13 | Kargor | yes someone from the german irc channel got his confirmation email after 6 hours: registration error ;P |
| 20:12.37 | Unremarkable | ckknight, so you're suggesting that something like "/script for k, v in pairs(GameData.Player) do ChatWindow.Print(k..":"..v) end" should work? |
| 20:13.00 | hiblios | i repeat |
| 20:13.03 | Repo | schobers-sct: 03adalyn 06adalyns-clone * 2ec02edc1a2e SCT.lua: Your healing now displays a + sign |
| 20:13.05 | hiblios | who cares about the europeans? |
| 20:13.07 | Unremarkable | Or am I doing something wrong? |
| 20:13.08 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.12 | hiblios | or i like to call them |
| 20:13.15 | hiblios | europe peons |
| 20:13.23 | Unremarkable | Ah, thanks Kargor. |
| 20:13.45 | Kargor | peons ? |
| 20:14.04 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: so when that version builds you should grab it in 7 mins |
| 20:14.04 | Unremarkable | Kargor, except, where does that dump it to? |
| 20:14.13 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: unless you use git. |
| 20:14.17 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.18 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.53 | hiblios | wow |
| 20:14.53 | Unremarkable | Ah - thanks |
| 20:14.58 | hiblios | so dwarfs don't have a capital city? |
| 20:15.29 | `Zypher | hiblios: not atm. |
| 20:15.30 | Thrae | Dwarves don't need a Capital City! They're so hardy, they sleep outdoors. |
| 20:15.40 | hiblios | lame |
| 20:15.44 | hiblios | dwarves are the coolest faction in the game |
| 20:15.48 | hiblios | it needs more dwarves |
| 20:15.56 | hiblios | it needs twice as much dwarvish content |
| 20:16.04 | hiblios | then there is everything else |
| 20:16.13 | Thrae | Well, most Warhammer games do put a Dwarf on the cover. |
| 20:16.27 | `Zypher | hiblios: the files for their city have been in game for quite some time however. |
| 20:16.29 | hiblios | because they fucking rule |
| 20:16.30 | sOLARiZ | Zypher: Another small thing I noticed maybe just my flavour but on the screenshot I posted to aiane you could see the umbers are a bit far away form my actual char for my feeling |
| 20:16.58 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: can you show me the screen? |
| 20:17.18 | sOLARiZ | http://img.planetlanfiles.com/zyy4i_elinthil^m_000.jpg |
| 20:18.08 | `Zypher | if I give you the option to set their position with /slash commands would yoube happy? |
| 20:18.10 | ChryzoPhylax | nice status bar sOLARiZ :) |
| 20:18.36 | Kargor | solariz hast du die gröÃer geändert ? |
| 20:18.48 | sOLARiZ | jap stimmt |
| 20:19.54 | Kargor | wenn ich mich nur mal einloggen könnte, wollte das nämlich eigentlich selbst machen ;P |
| 20:19.58 | ChryzoPhylax | ckknight: lets say you pass an object to a method like method(obj) |
| 20:20.06 | ckknight | k... |
| 20:20.14 | ChryzoPhylax | in said method you want to do : obj:AMethodIWantToCall() |
| 20:20.18 | ChryzoPhylax | how do you do that ? |
| 20:20.38 | Aii | exactly how you just did? |
| 20:20.39 | ckknight | function blah:method(obj) obj:AMethodIWantToCall() end |
| 20:20.39 | VonhintenHOME` | you do just that |
| 20:20.50 | ChryzoPhylax | ain't working |
| 20:20.59 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: pastey your code |
| 20:21.00 | Aii | is your function defined as blah:method or blah.method |
| 20:21.03 | hiblios | why does the dwarven architecture look so similiar to WOW in war? |
| 20:21.06 | ChryzoPhylax | 08/09/2008 23:16:52 (Error)CEGUI::ScriptException in file .\Src\VirtualMachine.cpp(128) : ...\UI\Core\CPT_StateController\CPT_StateController.lua:91: attempt to call method 'OnEnter' (a nil value) |
| 20:21.10 | Aii | if it's blah.method, you need blah.method(self, obj) |
| 20:21.16 | Aii | . versus : matters |
| 20:21.17 | Thrae | ChryzoPhylax: Lua automagically passes "self" to a table you create when you call yourtable:Foo() |
| 20:21.37 | ChryzoPhylax | Aii, can't |
| 20:21.48 | Aii | ChryzoPhylax: that means that OnEnter has a syntax error |
| 20:21.48 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: pastey your goddamn code |
| 20:21.53 | Aii | and yes, pastey :P |
| 20:21.55 | ckknight | I keep telling you to do that |
| 20:21.55 | ChryzoPhylax | ckknight coming |
| 20:21.57 | ckknight | you never do |
| 20:22.05 | Thrae | What version of Lua does WAR use, by the way? |
| 20:22.05 | ckknight | http://waruidev.pastey.net/ |
| 20:22.23 | ckknight | Thrae: 5.1, not sure the exact version, though |
| 20:22.27 | ChryzoPhylax | http://waruidev.pastey.net/95629 |
| 20:22.32 | ChryzoPhylax | error line 91 |
| 20:22.58 | sOLARiZ | Zypher: On this shoot you see how it looks like if I play zoomed out in scale of 1.5 with font 3: http://img.planetlanfiles.com/zeynl_elinthil^m_001.jpg |
| 20:23.06 | ChryzoPhylax | just ignore the comments :) |
| 20:23.07 | ckknight | because OnEnter doesn't exist, ChryzoPhylax |
| 20:23.21 | ChryzoPhylax | http://waruidev.pastey.net/95630 |
| 20:23.25 | ChryzoPhylax | that is the object i am passing |
| 20:23.30 | ChryzoPhylax | well an instance of it |
| 20:24.13 | ckknight | well, OnEnter is nil |
| 20:24.15 | ckknight | I know that much |
| 20:24.25 | ChryzoPhylax | well actually i am passing {object} to be precise ^^ |
| 20:24.44 | ChryzoPhylax | it should not be :) |
| 20:25.09 | Thrae | ChryzoPhylax: Rule #32 of programming -- if something errors, place a thousand print statements near said errors |
| 20:25.16 | ckknight | pretty true |
| 20:25.34 | Aii | s/errors/errors in an environment you can't drop into a debugger/ |
| 20:25.41 | ChryzoPhylax | whatcha think the D() are for ^^ (except they kinda bug on the objects i am trying to pass... the print method goes into recursive mode) |
| 20:25.54 | Thrae | Aii: That's rule #22 |
| 20:26.21 | ckknight | ChryzoPhylax: how would a print statement go into recursive mode? |
| 20:26.24 | ckknight | it's just a print statement |
| 20:26.35 | ChryzoPhylax | because it is trying to print a table ... |
| 20:26.36 | ckknight | maybe you need a better function to print things |
| 20:26.46 | Aii | like pprint :P |
| 20:26.50 | ckknight | what're you using? |
| 20:26.54 | Aii | he's using d() |
| 20:26.56 | ChryzoPhylax | custom coded print method ^^ |
| 20:26.59 | Aii | or that |
| 20:27.08 | ChryzoPhylax | that sux ;) |
| 20:27.16 | ChryzoPhylax | gonna look up pprint code then i guess |
| 20:27.46 | Aii | it's on warwiki |
| 20:28.44 | ckknight | actually that pprint code breaks for recursion, though I could fix that |
| 20:29.05 | ChryzoPhylax | haha doesn't find pprint |
| 20:29.06 | Aii | does it ckk? in what instance |
| 20:29.57 | ckknight | it doesn't check for recursion in there, ever |
| 20:30.23 | Thrae | ChryzoPhylax: function print(t) if type(t) ~= "table" then WAR_PRINT(t) else for pairs(k,v) in t do WAR_PRINT(k) print(v) end <-- something like that should work |
| 20:30.40 | hiblios | oh |
| 20:30.41 | hiblios | wow |
| 20:30.48 | hiblios | theres a instance right in the middle of the city |
| 20:31.45 | Thrae | ChryzoPhylax: Just remember to use tostring(v) when printing so it doesn't error out on nil |
| 20:31.55 | ckknight | okay, Aii, fixed |
| 20:32.17 | ckknight | http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Example_Pretty_Print |
| 20:32.18 | hiblios | WTF |
| 20:32.20 | hiblios | ........... |
| 20:32.29 | hiblios | don't talk to the fancy lady |
| 20:32.39 | hiblios | she spawnsa bunch of level 23 mobs out of nowhere |
| 20:35.25 | sOLARiZ | hmmm how to lower a string in WAR Lua implementation ? String.lower("SDFSDFsdfsdf") breaks the script |
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| 20:36.10 | Thrae | sOLARiZ: string.lower, not String.lower |
| 20:36.23 | sOLARiZ | it is small was my chat prog sry ;p |
| 20:36.43 | ChryzoPhylax | ckknight: nice way you checked for recursion |
| 20:36.47 | hiblios | danit |
| 20:36.50 | ChryzoPhylax | i frigging used a stupid tag |
| 20:36.52 | hiblios | the cpaital cities are scaryyyyy |
| 20:36.55 | ChryzoPhylax | in each table |
| 20:36.57 | hiblios | they got elite mobs |
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| 20:37.01 | hiblios | high level ones |
| 20:37.02 | hiblios | all over |
| 20:37.17 | ChryzoPhylax | anyway, i ll loot at it again tomorrow after a good night sleep |
| 20:37.30 | ChryzoPhylax | look |
| 20:39.18 | sOLARiZ | Damn something is driving me crazy: "local lowText = string.lower(towstring(GameData.ChatData.text))" |
| 20:39.23 | sOLARiZ | just won't work |
| 20:39.36 | ChryzoPhylax | wstring.lower ain't working ? |
| 20:39.39 | ckknight | yea, cause you can't use string functions on wstrings |
| 20:39.47 | ckknight | also, use the colon syntax |
| 20:39.50 | ckknight | :lower() |
| 20:41.08 | Aii | out of curiousity sOLARiZ what are you trying to do? |
| 20:41.43 | sOLARiZ | currently still playing around to get back in lua didn't do anything past 6 month |
| 20:42.35 | Kargor | solraiz GameData.ChatData.text ist bereits ein wstring |
| 20:42.37 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: you never answered would the ability to move the scroll areas interest you? |
| 20:43.46 | sOLARiZ | Zypher: didnt saw the question, yes would be very interesting because I guess depending on the resolution ppl play on it is to far away. I play on 1680x1050 but if there is somebody at 1900 it is even more space between the area and char |
| 20:44.09 | Kargor | local foo = L"Test"; local foo1 = foo:lower() |
| 20:44.24 | sOLARiZ | Kargor: jau war da nur drinne weil ich am verzweifeln war, bin den unterschied zwiischen string und wstring noch nicht gewöhnt |
| 20:44.26 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: I play at the same resolution I just like it further away :P |
| 20:45.11 | Repo | schobers-sct: 03adalyn 06adalyns-clone * af6bc12d774c SCT.lua: |
| 20:45.11 | Repo | Added the ability to change incoming and outgoing window positions |
| 20:45.13 | Kargor | zypher btw WindowSetScale(incomingText, SCTOptions.scale * uiscale); |
| 20:45.13 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.29 | `Zypher | Kargor: what about it? |
| 20:45.41 | Kargor | why do you multiply SCTOptions.scale with uiscale ? |
| 20:45.42 | sOLARiZ | Kargor: DAs mit dem L ist ja quasi nix anderes als eine towstring("Test") oder ? |
| 20:45.53 | Kargor | ja @solariz |
| 20:45.57 | sOLARiZ | k |
| 20:45.59 | Aii | Kargor: so that it fits into the overall UI scale |
| 20:46.01 | `Zypher | Kargor: to keep it relative to the default ui's scale incase someone changes it. |
| 20:46.23 | Aii | if someone changes the global UI scale they expect everything to change |
| 20:47.06 | `Zypher | sOLARiZ: I added |
| 20:47.13 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.17 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.17 | Kargor | this was the part i had not testet. how do you calculate absolute pixels |
| 20:47.20 | `Zypher | etc... |
| 20:47.30 | Kargor | when scaling changed |
| 20:47.36 | Aii | you dodnt |
| 20:47.38 | Aii | *dont |
| 20:47.42 | Kargor | you have to |
| 20:48.14 | Aii | For what? |
| 20:48.16 | `Zypher | ? |
| 20:48.30 | Aii | The entire purpose of scaling is that your addon only cares about the coordinate system set up within its window(s) |
| 20:48.40 | Aii | the layout manager takes care of the actual pixels |
| 20:48.48 | Kargor | if you want to create 1 pixel lines |
| 20:49.03 | Kargor | no matter what scaling you are using |
| 20:49.05 | Aii | But you don't, because that's not what the system is designed around |
| 20:49.31 | Aii | If for some god-awful reason you want to break the UI design spec, you could force a frame to scaling 1.0 and go from there |
| 20:49.34 | Kargor | the whole fucking windowsetposition add anchor bla bla coordinates get scaled |
| 20:49.38 | Aii | but again, that's really breaking how it's design to work |
| 20:50.00 | Aii | s/design/designed/ |
| 20:50.42 | hiblios | I don't get why some of these places are instanced |
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| 20:56.15 | `Zypher | hiblios: who cares the loading screens are fast. |
| 20:57.17 | hiblios | well its hard to tell which are proper pve instances |
| 20:57.20 | hiblios | and which are not |
| 21:00.07 | sOLARiZ | could somebody give me a hint on this ? http://waruidev.pastey.net/95634 |
| 21:00.17 | sOLARiZ | If I do the if like commented out it works |
| 21:00.25 | sOLARiZ | if I do it as it is currently not |
| 21:02.17 | Aii | Kaelten: ping |
| 21:02.24 | Kaelten | heya |
| 21:02.45 | Aii | im having to do this sort of indirectly since im not on msn from my laptop, but is shelby online? |
| 21:03.05 | Aii | or is he at work |
| 21:03.42 | Kaelten | I think he's online |
| 21:03.44 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 21:04.14 | Aii | could you get him to go (or get someone else to go) and clean out all of the Goa threads in the Gameplay Discussion board on WHA? |
| 21:04.22 | Aii | since they have nothing to do with actual gameplay |
| 21:05.01 | Kaelten | passed along |
| 21:05.10 | Aii | ty |
| 21:06.16 | Kargor | lua> a, b = "Test", "Test"; print(a == b) |
| 21:06.16 | lua_bot | Kargor: true |
| 21:06.21 | Kargor | @solariz |
| 21:06.39 | `Zypher | ckknight: all the files that show up at |
| 21:06.45 | `Zypher | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/schobers-sct/repositories/adalyns-clone/ |
| 21:06.49 | `Zypher | don't exist I guess |
| 21:06.51 | `Zypher | :S |
| 21:07.23 | ckknight | k |
| 21:08.08 | `Zypher | why is that? |
| 21:08.09 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:08.13 | sOLARiZ | Kargor: Won't just do a simple == compare because "Test is in this string" should also be true if I search for Test |
| 21:08.43 | ckknight | `Zypher: I'm confused, what? |
| 21:08.55 | `Zypher | ckknight: why don't any of the files exist? |
| 21:08.58 | Aii | lua> a = "Test is in this string" print(a:find("Test")) |
| 21:08.59 | lua_bot | Aii: 1, 4 |
| 21:09.10 | Aii | lua> a = "Test is in this string" print(a:find("not in the string")) |
| 21:09.10 | lua_bot | Aii: nil |
| 21:09.11 | ckknight | ah, bloody hell, `Zypher |
| 21:09.18 | `Zypher | whatd I do? |
| 21:09.22 | `Zypher | >.< |
| 21:09.24 | Aii | @ sOLARiZ |
| 21:10.08 | sOLARiZ | ah thanks |
| 21:10.45 | ckknight | `Zypher: you uncovered a bug. |
| 21:10.55 | `Zypher | noice |
| 21:11.02 | `Zypher | http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterLeaderboards.war?server=156&leaderboardType=1&interval=1&sortId=0&sortType=0 |
| 21:11.06 | Aii | so more like "buggy hell" |
| 21:11.12 | ckknight | fixed now |
| 21:11.17 | `Zypher | ckknight: coolio |
| 21:11.29 | Kargor | lua> a = 0; for i = 1, 1000 do a = a + 0.0001 end print(a) |
| 21:11.29 | lua_bot | Kargor: 0.1 |
| 21:11.41 | `Zypher | http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterLeaderboards.war?server=156&leaderboardType=2&interval=1&sortId=0&sortType=0 |
| 21:11.45 | `Zypher | #3 rofl |
| 21:11.53 | Kargor | lua> a = 0; for i = 1, 10000 do a = a + 0.0001 end print(a) |
| 21:11.53 | lua_bot | Kargor: 0.99999999999991 |
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| 21:12.15 | Aii | lol `Zypher.... bug in realm war |
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| 21:12.24 | `Zypher | what bug? |
| 21:12.27 | Aii | it has 'pits of zordok' but the server is 'pits of zardok' iirc |
| 21:12.27 | `Zypher | >.> |
| 21:12.45 | `Zypher | waot |
| 21:12.46 | Aii | so the leaderboard for that "server" is empty |
| 21:12.47 | `Zypher | wait* |
| 21:12.56 | `Zypher | oh ok |
| 21:12.57 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:14.07 | `Zypher | well |
| 21:14.10 | `Zypher | I'm happy |
| 21:14.16 | `Zypher | Realm War serves its purpose |
| 21:14.22 | `Zypher | where are the statues in the city btw? |
| 21:14.25 | `Zypher | Ii want to see me |
| 21:14.47 | sOLARiZ | lua> Own=L"tst";Txt=L"This is my tst text";print(Txt:find(Own)); |
| 21:14.47 | lua_bot | sOLARiZ: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'L' (a nil value) |
| 21:14.56 | sOLARiZ | bahh |
| 21:14.57 | sOLARiZ | :p |
| 21:15.14 | sOLARiZ | I hate wstring's |
| 21:15.43 | Kargor | lua_bot needs L"" support ^^ |
| 21:16.14 | Aii | lua_bot is game-independent |
| 21:16.27 | sOLARiZ | I'm too ;) |
| 21:16.28 | Thrae | lua_bot is just straight Lua, for the most part. |
| 21:17.31 | Freddy | i'm in love with lua_bot |
| 21:17.57 | ckknight | ~love lua_bot |
| 21:17.58 | purl | If you love lua_bot so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 21:18.03 | Freddy | :D |
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| 21:18.54 | sOLARiZ | is there any special with GameData.Player.name ? I cant get it to work if I using this as a pattern |
| 21:19.13 | sOLARiZ | Even this simple code simply does not work: http://waruidev.pastey.net/95636 |
| 21:19.34 | sOLARiZ | OwnNAme and lowText are both wstrings |
| 21:20.19 | sOLARiZ | If I write :find(L"test") and write a test in the chat it works |
| 21:20.27 | sOLARiZ | but with OwnName not *sigh* |
| 21:21.33 | hiblios | man |
| 21:21.42 | hiblios | drop rate better increase rapidly after level 10 |
| 21:21.46 | hiblios | or else im never getting a mount |
| 21:22.39 | Kargor | what i have noticed during beta was, if you had a wstring like "FooFooFooFoo" and take a substring of that string then sometimes you got "FooFooFoo^" |
| 21:23.23 | sOLARiZ | hmm the OwnName should be "elinthil" from my char the print is fine it gives me: OwnNAme = [elinthil] |
| 21:23.38 | sOLARiZ | very strange |
| 21:24.27 | Aii | sOLARiZ: names often have control characters on the end that don't display when printed |
| 21:24.58 | Aii | do a :match(L"([a-zA-Z ]+).*") first to grab only the alphabetic characters |
| 21:25.03 | sOLARiZ | ok this could be do you know how the controll chars start in wow it was simple a pipe |
| 21:25.19 | sOLARiZ | k also a posibility |
| 21:25.30 | Aii | most of the control codes in WAR are ^..... where ... is other stuff |
| 21:25.43 | Aii | which is also why you can't type messages with ^ in chat |
| 21:25.52 | Aii | alright, headed back home, back in a bit |
| 21:26.17 | sOLARiZ | ok thanks |
| 21:26.59 | Kargor | what are these control codes good for ? |
| 21:27.16 | sOLARiZ | e.g. item codes |
| 21:27.49 | sOLARiZ | in wow you could di a item link like a <a href like |CLINK=0x34f2,SuperbStaff| |
| 21:27.56 | hiblios | there is like no one on my server |
| 21:28.21 | Kargor | wie warn das dann escaped im code solariz ? |
| 21:28.22 | sOLARiZ | or color code like |cfRRGGBB<coloredtextY>|c |
| 21:28.30 | sOLARiZ | in ar hab ich e snoch nicht rausgefunden |
| 21:28.34 | sOLARiZ | in war mein eich |
| 21:28.44 | sOLARiZ | suche schon seit der CB danach nur die infos sind sehr sehr rar |
| 21:28.54 | Kargor | die ^ chars machen für mich kein sinn im namen |
| 21:28.59 | sOLARiZ | würde ienem die option geben farblich im text zu schreiben z.b. |
| 21:29.15 | sOLARiZ | die werden wohl die Player ID übertragen |
| 21:29.28 | sOLARiZ | <name>^ID:0x123^ |
| 21:29.29 | Kargor | das lustige ist, in den übersetzungsdateien steht hinter jedem mist ^ |
| 21:29.36 | hiblios | can someone make a ping meter |
| 21:29.52 | Kargor | not really |
| 21:29.54 | sOLARiZ | jap schon gesehen aber leide rnich tmehr als nur ^ |
| 21:30.26 | sOLARiZ | ok wenn ich Aii's tip befholge geht es natürlich mit dem :match |
| 21:30.48 | Kargor | you can "pull" the who command the whole time and look how long the response take, but i do not know if this is the real client - server delay |
| 21:31.57 | sOLARiZ | I guess only mehtod would be find a EVENT which is triggered neraly like the OnUpdate but is related to the server -> client com |
| 21:33.53 | Kargor | wie gut dass ich das pw von meinem account nicht mehr weiss den ich im juni 2007 erstellt habe und die password recovery funktion nicht geht. goa ist echt so nen saftladen |
| 21:34.14 | sOLARiZ | jo haben doch damals bei DAOC genau das selbe abgezogen |
| 21:34.16 | sOLARiZ | 1:1 |
| 21:35.28 | Kargor | solariz welches level bist du ? |
| 21:35.49 | sOLARiZ | spiele eher am lua als im spiel ;p lvl 5 |
| 21:36.33 | Kargor | ich wollte ja eigentlich testen, ob der bug mit dem flightmaster noch geht. man konnte sich trotz port sperre zwischen den tiers einfach übern flugmaster dahin porten :> |
| 21:38.41 | sOLARiZ | hmm sthee gerade vor einem |
| 21:38.57 | hiblios | god damn "Cant attack that target" |
| 21:39.18 | Kargor | ne das entsprechende level musst schon haben solariz |
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| 21:39.35 | sOLARiZ | dachte wenn schon bug dann richtig ;p |
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| 21:40.00 | sOLARiZ | bin dann auch mal wech |
| 21:40.02 | sOLARiZ | ok folks, have to catch some sleep. cu later, good night |
| 21:43.13 | hiblios | gen vurgehagn |
| 21:43.14 | hiblios | germany sucks |
| 21:43.52 | Kargor | wirklich ? |
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| 21:46.14 | Kargor | why does germany sucks @hiblios |
| 21:47.25 | Thrae | Germany has some good things goin' for it. Namely Deisel Hybrids and Electric Cars. OK, that's about it. |
| 21:47.32 | hiblios | because hitler |
| 21:48.44 | Kargor | oh noes, the bad guy mr. adolf hitler -.- |
| 21:50.28 | hiblios | there is no one at chapter 4 on this server |
| 21:50.34 | hiblios | so i can't do the public quests |
| 21:52.14 | Kargor | you can always do public quests. but not the whole pq. it is nothing than influence grinding |
| 21:55.00 | hiblios | jesus |
| 21:55.04 | hiblios | hyrodge pyroxide |
| 21:56.39 | hiblios | pitiful |
| 21:56.44 | hiblios | they call this a terrorist plot |
| 22:26.44 | Aiiane | TargetLast v1.5 is up on curseforge (and soon curse) - adds "sticky targeting" options |
| 22:30.31 | ckknight | it's all sticky! |
| 22:32.26 | `Zypher | ckknight: lol |
| 22:33.06 | hiblios | lol |
| 22:36.01 | Aiiane | boys boys boys, don't get too excited -_- |
| 22:36.19 | Acetar | lol |
| 22:36.35 | Acetar | omg imma stab myself in the eye |
| 22:36.41 | Acetar | this target not attackable bs is killing me |
| 22:38.16 | Aiiane | they're working on it, afaik |
| 22:38.52 | Acetar | i know its just frustrating :P |
| 22:47.37 | `Zypher | Acetar: it is, but then again its a smalle hiccup in the road of awesomeness. |
| 22:47.43 | `Zypher | small* |
| 22:47.53 | *** join/#waruidev nicoli_s (n=email@12-214-23-167.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:50.33 | Acetar | agreed |
| 22:51.28 | hiblios | god damnit |
| 22:51.30 | Acetar | in comparison to the MMO that will not be named we aren't getting CTD's ever 5 minutes so they are definately ahead of the curve |
| 22:51.32 | hiblios | am i the only one on this server? |
| 22:51.37 | hiblios | no one is doing the chapter 4 quests |
| 22:51.52 | Acetar | hiblios: its a conspiracy |
| 22:53.29 | `Zypher | hiblios: people play a pvp game to pvp... |
| 22:53.43 | hiblios | well at least you don't have to repair |
| 22:54.00 | hiblios | you can't get the good gear unless you do the public quests |
| 22:54.48 | `Zypher | pvp. |
| 22:58.41 | hiblios | you cant get gear in pvp |
| 22:58.51 | nicoli_s | umm yeah you can |
| 22:58.51 | hiblios | can't level in pvp |
| 22:58.55 | Aiiane | ... |
| 22:59.00 | Acetar | ... |
| 22:59.00 | nicoli_s | yeah you can |
| 22:59.05 | Aiiane | ~fail hiblios |
| 22:59.06 | purl | hiblios, you Fail! |
| 22:59.16 | hiblios | ..whatever |
| 22:59.17 | hiblios | stupid pvp |
| 23:04.09 | DarkTrooper | the worst part about 'target is not attackable' is that they still attack back, so if you bug out on a ranged mob, esp during a PQ, you either have to run half way across the map, or die |
| 23:05.18 | *** kick/#waruidev [hiblios!n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu] by Aiiane (Quality control) |
| 23:05.35 | DarkTrooper | lol, i was just checking the logs to see if this was the same dude from last night |
| 23:06.39 | Aiiane | I don't mind people who ask newbie questions |
| 23:06.50 | Aiiane | I do mind people who whine endlessly yet can't seem to make a logical argument |
| 23:07.00 | DarkTrooper | logic isn't everything :) |
| 23:07.12 | Aiiane | neither is whining |
| 23:07.18 | DarkTrooper | can't argue on that :) |
| 23:08.22 | ckknight | thanks for handling that, Aiiane |
| 23:08.38 | Aiiane | and now, I'm off to class |
| 23:09.03 | *** join/#waruidev hiblios (n=gee@ip72-204-87-140.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 23:09.03 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+b *!*@ip72-204-87-140.fv.ks.cox.net] by ChanServ |
| 23:09.03 | *** kick/#WARUIDev [hiblios!ChanServ@services.] by ChanServ (Banned: Quality control) |
| 23:10.20 | DarkTrooper | the problem with bans tho, is they're fairly easy to circumvent, hopefully he's not that bright tho :) |
| 23:14.27 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:14.31 | ckknight | chanserv banned him |
| 23:14.39 | ckknight | automation ftw |
| 23:23.24 | `Zypher | ckknight: hah thats awesome. |
| 23:23.46 | ckknight | he shouldn't've pissed off Chanserv, if you ask me |
| 23:24.23 | `Zypher | shouldn't've? |
| 23:24.24 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 23:24.46 | ckknight | what? |
| 23:26.03 | `Zypher | I thought it lookeded funny |
| 23:26.28 | DarkTrooper | ya, beacause there's no such word :) |
| 23:27.28 | VonhintenHOME` | So, how would I go about getting the value of my Dark Magic current percentage? |
| 23:27.45 | `Zypher | look at Aiian'es addon? |
| 23:29.58 | `Zypher | VonhintenHOME`: it's probably not going to give you a percentage |
| 23:30.11 | `Zypher | it will probably be a number / 100 |
| 23:30.18 | `Zypher | and you can just do maths to get the percent |
| 23:30.21 | DarkTrooper | which is the same as a percentage :) |
| 23:30.29 | VonhintenHOME` | sigh... |
| 23:30.46 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: sorta |
| 23:30.55 | `Zypher | you has to add % to the end |
| 23:30.56 | `Zypher | :P |
| 23:31.02 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm looking for API info.. |
| 23:31.40 | Aii | VonhintenHOME`: look at the Mechanic addon on CurseForge |
| 23:31.50 | Aii | the .lua file is very straightforward |
| 23:32.05 | VonhintenHOME` | Ok, and how did THAT person figure it out |
| 23:32.16 | Aii | That person was me :P |
| 23:32.19 | DarkTrooper | on the war api site |
| 23:32.20 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm getting a little pissed off with this arrangement |
| 23:32.26 | DarkTrooper | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Full_list |
| 23:32.39 | Aii | VonhintenHOME`: by looking at the Event List |
| 23:32.47 | Aii | because there's an event for when the career resource is updated |
| 23:32.58 | VonhintenHOME` | You can't poll it? |
| 23:33.17 | Aii | I don't believe the client stores a public value for it |
| 23:34.07 | Aii | the interface module for it in the default interface stores it in a local variable i believe |
| 23:34.40 | Aii | is there a reason you would want to poll it as opposed to listening for an event? |
| 23:36.42 | VonhintenHOME` | No, other than the fact that I'm practically in the dark, being forced to consume half-arsed wiki dumps with no access to the same shit that everyone else seems to have |
| 23:37.11 | Aii | well, mythic /still/ hasn't released anything official |
| 23:37.21 | Aii | the only stuff we have is stuff we've gone and gotten for ourselves |
| 23:37.49 | Aii | either by looking through and experimenting with whatever we see listed in _G ingame |
| 23:37.56 | Aii | or by pulling things out of the myp files |
| 23:38.03 | VonhintenHOME` | Well that's just fucking retarded |
| 23:38.15 | Aii | ~pat VonhintenHOME` |
| 23:38.16 | purl | ACTION pats VonhintenHOME` and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 23:38.26 | Aii | hrm... not exactly what i was going for |
| 23:39.25 | VonhintenHOME` | That's one way of going about building an API for generic consumption... put an NDA on it, and make it a big pain in everyone's ass to play with... |
| 23:39.31 | VonhintenHOME` | way to foster a community |
| 23:39.39 | Aii | keep in mind that the game isn't even released yet... |
| 23:39.45 | DarkTrooper | well there's no NDA on it afaik |
| 23:39.52 | DarkTrooper | it just isn't released offically :) |
| 23:40.17 | DarkTrooper | isn't figuring out how to do stuff half the fun? |
| 23:40.43 | Aii | the reality of it is, the API isn't stable yet. it's close, but it's not quite stable yet |
| 23:40.44 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm a software engineer for a living... I don't have fun "figuring stuff out" anymore |
| 23:40.55 | Aii | VonhintenHOME`: then don't develop for a beta system |
| 23:41.07 | DarkTrooper | ya, theni might suggest not making addons :) |
| 23:41.16 | Aii | *not making addons /yet/ |
| 23:41.24 | DarkTrooper | well yrah |
| 23:41.44 | VonhintenHOME` | The API isn't likely to change much in the next 2 weeks |
| 23:42.05 | DarkTrooper | i think a month after release all the addons will be almost the same anyway and thye'll all be written :) |
| 23:42.47 | Aii | VonhintenHOME`: sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're ready to release the documentation yet |
| 23:43.10 | *** join/#waruidev Jedric (n=dustinsa@cpe-72-177-96-139.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 23:43.21 | DarkTrooper | what they could do however, is a little more ui/api communication on the forums |
| 23:43.52 | Aii | DarkTrooper: they have a private forum on the closed beta forums for their handpicked author group |
| 23:44.09 | Aii | (which I should clarify, I am *not* a part of) |
| 23:44.16 | Aii | and those people /are/ still under NDA |
| 23:44.25 | Aii | I can't say I like their decision, but that's how it is |
| 23:44.41 | DarkTrooper | fair enough, are they going to switch out to another forum when live hits? |
| 23:45.02 | Aii | I couldn't tell you what they're going to do in the future, I'm not a mindreader :) |
| 23:45.14 | ckknight | they're gonna add gnomes |
| 23:45.19 | ckknight | and it will destroy the world. |
| 23:45.25 | DarkTrooper | i thought it might have been mentioned somewhere |
| 23:45.37 | Aii | no ckknight, that's the LHC |
| 23:45.48 | ckknight | LHC? |
| 23:45.55 | Aii | Large Hadron Collider |
| 23:45.58 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:46.34 | ckknight | you know what the worst part of dating more than one girl at once is? |
| 23:46.40 | ckknight | mixing up the things they've told you |
| 23:46.52 | ckknight | especially on the phone, cause they all sound alike |
| 23:47.03 | ckknight | I'm very confused about who I chatted with last night. |
| 23:47.04 | DarkTrooper | do you really have that much washing to do? |
| 23:47.10 | Aii | o.o |
| 23:47.15 | ckknight | I actually do need my laundry done |
| 23:47.28 | ckknight | I'm shooting to have someone over tomorrow, but that depends on her work schedule |
| 23:47.42 | ckknight | another possibility is Wednesday, but I might not take her back to my place |
| 23:47.48 | ckknight | probably will, though, to watch a movie |
| 23:47.56 | ckknight | in any event, laundry time won't be part of that, most likely |
| 23:48.27 | nicoli_s | if yer woman isn't doing your laundry, i dunno how good of a use you are getting out of her |
| 23:48.39 | ckknight | well the one on Wednesday is a new one |
| 23:48.59 | ckknight | sorry, Aii, I'm a pig, I know |
| 23:49.29 | ckknight | but the dating game really is just one big scam to not have to do my own laundry and dishes |
| 23:49.42 | ckknight | the other stuff is merely distraction |
| 23:49.59 | DarkTrooper | still i maintain a maid service is just as easy and more hassle free |
| 23:50.30 | Aii | ^ |
| 23:50.43 | ckknight | true, but there's an attraction thing as well |
| 23:50.46 | ckknight | also, I enjoy the company |
| 23:51.10 | DarkTrooper | a pet can't be company? |
| 23:51.53 | Aii | ironic that you should bring up pets, DarkTrooper >.> |
| 23:52.04 | ckknight | it can be, but I'm gone from 9-7 most days at least |
| 23:52.14 | ckknight | and I'd feel bad about leaving a dog or such home that long |
| 23:52.29 | DarkTrooper | 2 dogs then, they'll usually keep themselves busy |
| 23:52.38 | DarkTrooper | then lick you to death when you get back |
| 23:52.42 | ckknight | yea, and leave a big turd on my carpet as well |
| 23:52.44 | ckknight | no thank you. |
| 23:52.47 | Aii | hehe |
| 23:52.54 | DarkTrooper | called training :) |
| 23:53.23 | DarkTrooper | tho gotta be careful when they puke, you can't train them to hold that it seems |
| 23:53.34 | Aii | I prefer cats |
| 23:53.40 | Aii | and geckos ^_^ |
| 23:53.46 | Aii | *and/or |
| 23:53.50 | DarkTrooper | ef geckos |
| 23:54.00 | Aii | ef? |
| 23:54.46 | DarkTrooper | ya, they're anoying |
| 23:56.06 | Aii | no they're not, they're cute :x |
| 23:56.32 | Aii | and they eat grasshoppers :) |
| 23:56.48 | Aii | and crickets |
| 23:56.51 | DarkTrooper | how many in one spot until they stop being cute? |
| 23:57.32 | DarkTrooper | they're a friggin epidemic here, we have over 30 of them clawing around the outside/ceiling, and it's the same for most houses, occasionally they get inside which is a real pita |
| 23:58.34 | Aii | mm, difference of places I guess |
| 23:59.21 | DarkTrooper | they are facinating creatures, but i'm not too fond of 10-15 of them watch me as i feed the dog at night -_- |
