| 00:00.15 | DarkTrooper | yeah, i'm stoked that we actually have local servers with war, i can usually get a sub 100ms ping |
| 00:00.56 | Aiiane | I can get over 2MB/s to Perth from here :D |
| 00:01.07 | Aiiane | (California) |
| 00:01.14 | Freddy09 | aiiane |
| 00:01.16 | DarkTrooper | now that's op :) |
| 00:01.16 | Aiiane | granted, it has a 222ms latency |
| 00:01.17 | Freddy09 | where shoul di ping to? |
| 00:01.25 | Aiiane | Freddy09: use Washington DC |
| 00:01.31 | Aiiane | it's the closest test point they have to virginia |
| 00:01.38 | Freddy09 | all right |
| 00:02.00 | DarkTrooper | i'm stuck on an old exchange here so most i can get is ~ 850kb/s on an 8Mbit connection |
| 00:02.28 | Freddy09 | rofl wow |
| 00:02.30 | Freddy09 | that's a pitiful connection |
| 00:02.42 | Freddy09 | 80ms ping 1727 dl 323 ul |
| 00:02.57 | Aiiane | that's not that bad |
| 00:03.04 | Freddy09 | yea |
| 00:03.07 | Freddy09 | i won't be laggin or anything |
| 00:03.08 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 00:03.11 | Freddy09 | just it's not that great |
| 00:03.20 | DarkTrooper | i seem to get by fine, i rarely max out anyhow |
| 00:03.24 | Aiiane | its not my ~15mb/s, not :P |
| 00:03.27 | Aiiane | *no |
| 00:03.29 | Freddy09 | lolol |
| 00:03.39 | Freddy09 | i'm perfectly happy with 1.5mb/s |
| 00:03.50 | Freddy09 | o well |
| 00:03.54 | Freddy09 | my bandwidth is split between 6 comps |
| 00:03.58 | Freddy09 | shouldn't ask for toom uch ^^ |
| 00:04.41 | Freddy09 | wow |
| 00:04.52 | Freddy09 | if you use comcast internet you can make a fileplanet acct and get a beta key |
| 00:04.53 | Freddy09 | imba |
| 00:05.00 | Aiiane | you want a fun result |
| 00:05.06 | Aiiane | here's what happens when I speedtest my connection to LA |
| 00:05.07 | Aiiane | http://www.speedtest.net/result/291480608.png |
| 00:05.19 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:05.25 | Freddy09 | your UL is so low |
| 00:05.27 | Freddy09 | but damn@that dl |
| 00:05.34 | Aiiane | think that might have been a fluke |
| 00:05.37 | Aiiane | (the UL) |
| 00:05.47 | Freddy09 | lemme get Dallas for ya |
| 00:06.05 | Freddy09 | usually like 5k 16ms 700kb |
| 00:06.10 | Freddy09 | if you understand my crappy ordering |
| 00:06.28 | Freddy09 | rofl wtf |
| 00:06.34 | Freddy09 | i think my virus scan is screwin somethin up |
| 00:06.42 | Freddy09 | no way did i just ping 81ms to dallas |
| 00:07.05 | Freddy09 | so you live in cali aiiane? |
| 00:07.08 | Aiiane | yes |
| 00:07.11 | Freddy09 | cool |
| 00:07.12 | Aiiane | http://www.speedtest.net/result/316498177.png <-- even better DL |
| 00:07.24 | Freddy09 | jesus christ |
| 00:07.25 | Freddy09 | it doubled |
| 00:07.28 | DarkTrooper | lol @ yous getting upset over 81ms, lol |
| 00:07.36 | Freddy09 | no |
| 00:07.39 | Freddy09 | i'm upset |
| 00:07.43 | Freddy09 | that i'm pinging myself to something next door to me |
| 00:07.45 | Freddy09 | and getting 81ms |
| 00:07.59 | Aiiane | the doubling is probably our cache server taking over |
| 00:08.02 | Freddy09 | i always ping 10-16ms @dallas |
| 00:08.06 | Aiiane | can't say for sure though |
| 00:08.30 | DarkTrooper | do a traceroute and you'll see where the problem is |
| 00:08.40 | Aiiane | I get a 42ms ping to dallas |
| 00:08.47 | Aiiane | and 22mbps DL |
| 00:09.01 | Freddy09 | jeeze |
| 00:09.06 | Aiiane | around 400kbps upload |
| 00:09.11 | Aiiane | http://www.speedtest.net/result/316498675.png |
| 00:09.13 | Freddy09 | clarement colleges |
| 00:09.13 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 00:09.17 | Freddy09 | no clue what that is |
| 00:09.29 | Aiiane | it's the colleges in Claremont, CA :P |
| 00:09.32 | Aiiane | there are 5 of them |
| 00:09.40 | Aiiane | all on the same general campus area |
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| 00:09.50 | Freddy09 | fun |
| 00:09.50 | Aiiane | http://claremont.edu/ |
| 00:09.53 | Freddy09 | you attent? |
| 00:09.54 | Freddy09 | attend |
| 00:10.14 | Aiiane | I go to Harvey Mudd College |
| 00:10.20 | Aiiane | which is the more tech-oriented one |
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| 00:10.47 | Freddy09 | cool |
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| 00:13.04 | Freddy09 | hi again |
| 00:13.05 | Freddy09 | xD |
| 00:13.38 | Aiiane | lol @ http://pc.thegamereviews.com/story-1885-Warhammer-Online-Rewards-Nudity.html |
| 00:14.06 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 00:14.16 | DarkTrooper | urg, could they have the text any smaller |
| 00:14.25 | Freddy09 | lol@targetting AoC |
| 00:14.30 | Freddy09 | just ctrl+scroll |
| 00:14.32 | Freddy09 | if you use ffox |
| 00:14.53 | Freddy09 | that's pro aiiane |
| 00:14.56 | DarkTrooper | well yeah, but who wants to squint? :) |
| 00:15.01 | Freddy09 | ... |
| 00:15.06 | Freddy09 | ctrl+scroll zooms in the page |
| 00:15.09 | Freddy09 | only for that page too |
| 00:15.23 | DarkTrooper | (to set the default size that small) |
| 00:15.23 | lazarenth_ | uh oh |
| 00:15.29 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:15.31 | Freddy09 | k |
| 00:15.32 | lazarenth_ | i have to make a no-gear squig herder alt |
| 00:15.36 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 00:15.38 | lazarenth_ | and play naked the whole game |
| 00:15.46 | Freddy09 | imo |
| 00:15.48 | Freddy09 | make a guild |
| 00:15.52 | lazarenth_ | just have the quig tank :P |
| 00:16.00 | Freddy09 | <Barin our GreenSkinz> |
| 00:16.42 | rizzen | yay living in fucking saskatchewan |
| 00:16.48 | Freddy09 | rofl wut |
| 00:17.05 | rizzen | was reading the conversation about speedtests |
| 00:17.13 | Freddy09 | ooh |
| 00:18.44 | Freddy09 | fail my dl accelerator isn't helping me |
| 00:19.04 | rizzen | yeahhhh http://www.speedtest.net/result/316500860.png |
| 00:19.40 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:19.44 | Freddy09 | that's not bad for 350 miles away |
| 00:19.56 | rizzen | oh? |
| 00:19.58 | rizzen | same distance |
| 00:19.59 | Freddy09 | that's better than i've been doin |
| 00:19.59 | rizzen | http://www.speedtest.net/result/316500860.png |
| 00:19.59 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:20.12 | Freddy09 | same link |
| 00:20.12 | Freddy09 | .. |
| 00:20.32 | rizzen | bah, i'll do it again then |
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| 00:21.00 | rizzen | http://www.speedtest.net/result/316501357.png |
| 00:21.30 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:21.34 | Freddy09 | ping doubled |
| 00:21.35 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 00:21.43 | rizzen | its also definitely not ~350miles |
| 00:21.49 | Freddy09 | k |
| 00:21.54 | Freddy09 | i wouldn't know |
| 00:21.54 | Freddy09 | :P |
| 00:22.01 | rizzen | its an hou3 and a half drive from here to brandon, manitoba |
| 00:22.05 | rizzen | hour* |
| 00:22.14 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:22.18 | Freddy09 | isn't that closer than 350m iles |
| 00:22.24 | rizzen | a bit, yes |
| 00:22.25 | rizzen | http://www.speedtest.net/result/316501565.png |
| 00:22.26 | Freddy09 | who am i kidding |
| 00:22.27 | Freddy09 | ofc it is |
| 00:22.28 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 00:22.29 | rizzen | to dallas |
| 00:22.38 | rizzen | lower ping |
| 00:22.40 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:22.40 | rizzen | just as good |
| 00:22.42 | Freddy09 | @it being better |
| 00:22.43 | Freddy09 | that's pro |
| 00:22.45 | rizzen | calgary fucking sucks |
| 00:22.48 | Freddy09 | dallas wins |
| 00:22.52 | Freddy09 | that was brandon |
| 00:22.58 | rizzen | i know |
| 00:22.59 | Freddy09 | that had the 180ping |
| 00:23.00 | Freddy09 | i think |
| 00:23.03 | rizzen | the first one was calgary |
| 00:23.04 | Freddy09 | i dont know what i'm talkin about |
| 00:23.05 | Freddy09 | yea |
| 00:23.08 | Freddy09 | calagary was nice |
| 00:23.09 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 00:23.32 | Freddy09 | not like anyone is gonna send you 3mb of upload/s anyway |
| 00:23.32 | Freddy09 | xD |
| 00:23.40 | rizzen | i get routed through minnesota, north dakota, montana then north to calgary |
| 00:24.01 | rizzen | its 600? km from here to calgary >> |
| 00:24.03 | Freddy09 | jeeze |
| 00:24.22 | rizzen | the internets are great in canada |
| 00:24.31 | rizzen | provided you live in toronto, montreal or vancouver |
| 00:24.55 | rizzen | i get 39ms ping to vancouver |
| 00:25.04 | rizzen | and its twice as far as calgary! |
| 00:25.06 | rizzen | good lord |
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| 00:25.40 | Freddy09 | try somethin in sweden |
| 00:26.20 | rizzen | 181ms, < 3k kbps |
| 00:26.31 | Freddy09 | lolol |
| 00:26.32 | Freddy09 | pro |
| 00:26.58 | rizzen | i get the same dl speeds going to oslo norway |
| 00:27.03 | rizzen | as i do going to vancouver |
| 00:27.11 | rizzen | http://www.speedtest.net/result/316502714.png |
| 00:28.27 | rizzen | lol, trying to measure the upload from moscow crashes my browser |
| 00:30.53 | Freddy09 | pro |
| 00:33.48 | rizzen | hmm |
| 00:33.58 | rizzen | is there any decent light weight alternatives to pidgin? |
| 00:34.24 | Freddy09 | no clue |
| 00:34.30 | Freddy09 | don't think they make many things like it |
| 00:34.38 | Freddy09 | i just use AIM :) |
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| 00:37.55 | Aiiane | rizzen: for irc only, or for IM? |
| 00:39.28 | Daegalus | I think Pidgin is as lightweight as you get. Trillian over does it. Digsby eats memory like no other. and Miranda's plugin system bloats it too much. Pidgin atm is the best choice |
| 00:39.48 | Daegalus | OR, you can use hte commandline versoin of Pidgin, called Finch |
| 00:40.00 | Daegalus | reminiscent of the old commnadling GAIM |
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| 00:53.02 | Freddy09 | pro just made a shortcut to my recycle bin on accident |
| 00:53.02 | Freddy09 | xD |
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| 01:12.41 | lazarenth | i am really bad at looking through the API to find stuff i might need ;_; |
| 01:13.33 | Freddy09 | whatcha lookin for |
| 01:13.54 | lazarenth | well im not really lloking for anything at the moment i found what i was loking for again |
| 01:14.11 | lazarenth | but i wish i knew what http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Player.GetAbilityData did |
| 01:14.25 | lazarenth | from what i can tell it gives some kind of .... ability data |
| 01:14.28 | lazarenth | not sure what kind |
| 01:14.29 | lazarenth | >_> |
| 01:15.08 | lazarenth | it "hecks ability tables" and talkes about "unknown abilities from items" so i am wondering if it returns what ability the Player is using? |
| 01:15.16 | lazarenth | checks* |
| 01:15.55 | lazarenth | lua> (nil == 0) |
| 01:15.55 | lua_bot | lazarenth: false |
| 01:15.58 | lazarenth | ok |
| 01:17.02 | Freddy09 | hmmmmm |
| 01:17.16 | lazarenth | oh |
| 01:17.19 | Freddy09 | if you want what the player is using |
| 01:17.23 | lazarenth | i think you give it an ability id |
| 01:17.23 | Freddy09 | there was a variable for that |
| 01:17.26 | Freddy09 | sec i'll go look |
| 01:17.31 | lazarenth | and it gives you daa about it |
| 01:18.01 | rizzen | Aiiane: for im |
| 01:18.05 | lazarenth | i was wondering if there was one because if not i have to base Warcry off buffs. but if there is i can abse it off abilities |
| 01:18.41 | rizzen | i used to use trillian but it was a piece of shit |
| 01:18.41 | rizzen | tried digsby, but its heavier on the memory |
| 01:18.50 | smcn | miranda-im? |
| 01:19.16 | rizzen | never tried, any good? :o |
| 01:19.32 | smcn | yeah it's pretty lightweight, highly modular |
| 01:21.05 | rizzen | guess i'll have to give it a try then |
| 01:21.06 | rizzen | thx |
| 01:29.33 | lazarenth | maybe PLAYER_ABILITIES_QUEUED_UPDATED triggers when you click/hotkey an ability to cast it? |
| 01:29.50 | lazarenth | although that wouldnt help get the actual ability.\ |
| 01:30.21 | Freddy09 | yea |
| 01:30.26 | Freddy09 | you'd need to look at the queue |
| 01:30.32 | Freddy09 | from what I see |
| 01:30.38 | Freddy09 | the spell gets removed as soon as it finishes casting |
| 01:30.44 | Freddy09 | removed from the queue |
| 01:30.55 | Freddy09 | so instant spells would be hard |
| 01:30.55 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 01:31.31 | lazarenth | how do you look at the queue >_> |
| 01:31.40 | Freddy09 | GetActiveAbility() |
| 01:31.41 | Freddy09 | hmm |
| 01:31.58 | lazarenth | i have been thinking and i think abilities that your group need to know about have a buff or debuff accosieted anyway |
| 01:32.06 | lazarenth | associated* |
| 01:32.21 | lazarenth | i might just build it around buff for now and change it in the future |
| 01:32.29 | lazarenth | cause i wanna start it :P |
| 01:32.48 | Freddy09 | ActionBars.m_ActiveActions[actionId] |
| 01:33.35 | Freddy09 | afaik that holds your spells |
| 01:33.39 | lazarenth | freddy where do you see GetActiveAbility |
| 01:33.42 | Freddy09 | and goes true |
| 01:33.50 | Freddy09 | it's a global function |
| 01:33.53 | Freddy09 | i'm lookin on the long page |
| 01:33.53 | Freddy09 | ;p |
| 01:34.05 | lazarenth | -_-;;; |
| 01:34.34 | Freddy09 | local slot, actionType, actionId = self:GetActionData () |
| 01:34.37 | Freddy09 | thar you go |
| 01:34.49 | Freddy09 | ActionButton.GetActionData() |
| 01:34.50 | Freddy09 | hmm |
| 01:34.53 | Freddy09 | that's not useful |
| 01:34.54 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 01:35.16 | Freddy09 | you could find out all of someone's actions they have on the bars w/ it though |
| 01:35.39 | Freddy09 | ActionBars:IsActionActive (actionId) |
| 01:36.11 | lazarenth | ok now where the heck are you |
| 01:36.20 | lazarenth | i am on the big page and i dont see that with actionbars. |
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| 01:37.33 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 01:37.36 | Freddy09 | i'm scanning calls |
| 01:37.37 | Freddy09 | :P |
| 01:37.53 | lazarenth | this page confuses me lol |
| 01:37.59 | lazarenth | the whole API i mean |
| 01:38.32 | lazarenth | ok no wonder i am confused |
| 01:38.46 | lazarenth | there is Actionbar.stuff AND ActionBars.stuff |
| 01:38.53 | lazarenth | :'( |
| 01:39.39 | Freddy09 | Player.GetAbilityTable() |
| 01:39.46 | Freddy09 | you can get the player's list of skills w/ that |
| 01:39.56 | lazarenth | i might just make it around buffs >_> i really cant think of an ability one would need to notify group mates of that DOESN'T have a buff associated |
| 01:40.06 | lazarenth | or debuff |
| 01:41.00 | Freddy09 | morale |
| 01:41.01 | Freddy09 | i dunno |
| 01:41.02 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 01:44.39 | lazarenth | yeah and i cant even get morale a bilites from action bars |
| 01:44.45 | lazarenth | so i think i'll go buff route |
| 01:45.33 | Freddy09 | but morale is stilll an ability |
| 01:45.38 | Freddy09 | all you need is to get the currently fcasting ability |
| 01:45.39 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 01:46.58 | Aiiane | WindowRegisterEventHandler ("LayerTimerWindow", SystemData.Events.PLAYER_BEGIN_CAST, "LayerTimerWindow.ShowCastBar") |
| 01:46.59 | Aiiane | ? |
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| 01:48.35 | Aiiane | also PLAYER_COOLDOWN_TIMER_SET |
| 01:48.41 | Aiiane | for anything that has a cooldown |
| 01:48.46 | Aiiane | you could just poll for it |
| 01:49.04 | Freddy09 | wouldn't GCD just be set for any spell anyway? |
| 01:50.07 | Aiiane | obviously you'd toss out any cooldown less than or equal to the GCD |
| 01:50.38 | Freddy09 | ofc! |
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| 02:29.51 | `Zypher[2] | hey :| |
| 02:30.22 | Aiiane | hiya |
| 02:30.35 | Aiiane | how was hockey? |
| 02:31.18 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: poor. |
| 02:31.23 | Aiiane | :( |
| 02:31.46 | `Zypher[2] | No one seemed to want to do any work, so I |
| 02:31.51 | `Zypher[2] | am pretty much dead. |
| 02:32.02 | `Zypher[2] | and they waved off my goal. |
| 02:34.15 | rizzen | suck less |
| 02:34.21 | rizzen | or move to canada where people care about hockey |
| 02:36.35 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: I don't want to play professionally. |
| 02:36.45 | Freddy09 | lo |
| 02:37.03 | Freddy09 | zypher should go get a nice hot cup o tea |
| 02:37.03 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 02:37.19 | `Zypher[2] | Freddy09: I actually have gotten scouted by a few Major JR. A teams. |
| 02:37.28 | `Zypher[2] | but I don't really have fun playing hockey anymore. |
| 02:37.28 | Freddy09 | huh |
| 02:37.31 | Freddy09 | that's @rizzen |
| 02:37.32 | Freddy09 | ont me |
| 02:37.34 | Freddy09 | not |
| 02:37.41 | rizzen | what about me? |
| 02:37.44 | `Zypher[2] | idk |
| 02:37.47 | `Zypher[2] | sleepy i am |
| 02:37.49 | Freddy09 | i just said to go get some tea |
| 02:37.49 | Freddy09 | :D |
| 02:37.57 | rizzen | why? |
| 02:38.00 | Freddy09 | not you |
| 02:38.03 | `Zypher[2] | tea is good? |
| 02:38.06 | Freddy09 | he said Freddy09: when he meant rizzen: |
| 02:38.09 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 02:38.19 | rizzen | so anyways |
| 02:38.20 | rizzen | moving on |
| 02:38.20 | Freddy09 | ack this is too complicated and it's too late |
| 02:38.28 | Freddy09 | rizzen |
| 02:38.32 | Freddy09 | how's the weather! |
| 02:38.36 | rizzen | horrible |
| 02:38.43 | rizzen | how about that local sports team |
| 02:39.19 | Freddy09 | omg their doing awesome this season! |
| 02:39.24 | Freddy09 | they're* |
| 02:40.49 | `Zypher[2] | omn nom nom nom nom |
| 02:40.50 | `Zypher[2] | nom |
| 02:41.27 | rizzen | stop stealing the god damn cookies |
| 02:41.37 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 02:41.43 | Freddy09 | i didn't tell on you zypher |
| 02:41.45 | Freddy09 | he figured it out oin is own!@ |
| 02:41.46 | Freddy09 | i swear |
| 02:42.09 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: i be teh cookie monster. |
| 02:42.42 | rizzen | GIVE COOKIES |
| 02:44.00 | `Zypher[2] | no Aiiane! |
| 02:44.14 | Aiiane | ow :( |
| 02:44.15 | `Zypher[2] | now he'll never leave. |
| 02:44.28 | rizzen | <3 thanks for cookies |
| 02:44.36 | `Zypher[2] | nooo |
| 02:45.14 | rizzen | SMELLS OF JEALOUSY |
| 02:45.15 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: perhaps I should have just sprayed you with some water, hitting is never the answer. |
| 02:45.25 | rizzen | violence solves everything |
| 02:45.33 | rizzen | so does throwing ninjas at the problem |
| 02:45.50 | rizzen | you can file those two comments away under things i've learned from webcomics |
| 02:45.58 | `Zypher[2] | ~whalebomb rizzen |
| 02:45.59 | purl | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at rizzen and hides. |
| 02:47.36 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: so ya were done, since we lost no more hockey this weekend. |
| 02:47.48 | `Zypher[2] | I am a sad panda. |
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| 02:52.54 | thanners | 'morning all |
| 02:54.33 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: do you know if they are going to put the patch up for the standard beta testers soonish since I'm hearing its around 4+gigs |
| 02:55.04 | Aiiane | considering they haven't released the patch yet period, whoever you're hearing that from is misinformed |
| 02:56.06 | `Zypher[2] | oh |
| 02:56.10 | `Zypher[2] | silly me |
| 02:56.52 | Aiiane | actually, I lied.. servers aren't quite up yet but a little of the patch is |
| 02:57.01 | Aiiane | it's nowhere near 4gb though |
| 02:57.13 | Aiiane | so don't worry |
| 02:57.48 | `Zypher | ok cool |
| 02:57.58 | `Zypher | I'm getting my internet upgraded |
| 02:58.05 | `Zypher | from 1.5 to 3 mbps |
| 02:58.06 | `Zypher | :D |
| 02:58.11 | Aiiane | fun |
| 02:58.13 | thanners[work] | whee (c: |
| 02:58.19 | `Zypher | it is for me |
| 02:58.25 | `Zypher | I only get about 150kb/s down |
| 02:58.55 | thanners[work] | mine's ~12mbps down |
| 02:58.57 | `Zypher | sigh need I remind you that your at o hummmm a college? |
| 02:59.10 | `Zypher | thanners[work]: megabits? |
| 02:59.13 | `Zypher | or bytes |
| 02:59.28 | thanners[work] | bits |
| 02:59.42 | `Zypher | via who? |
| 02:59.56 | thanners[work] | er. iiNet. Western Australia ISP. :P |
| 03:00.47 | `Zypher[2] | see there isn't really anything here that is cost effective |
| 03:00.51 | `Zypher[2] | comcrap is well crap |
| 03:00.56 | thanners[work] | what would count as cost effective? |
| 03:01.00 | `Zypher[2] | and AT&T's speeds are terrible. |
| 03:01.13 | `Zypher[2] | 30$ for 3mbps |
| 03:01.17 | thanners[work] | I'm paying about 100AUD/mo, this includes a land line rental. |
| 03:01.27 | thanners[work] | ah. mmm. |
| 03:02.03 | Aiiane | different people have different opinions on what is 'cost effective' |
| 03:02.04 | Aiiane | personally |
| 03:02.11 | Aiiane | internet-wise, I wish I lived in Japan |
| 03:02.16 | `Zypher | same |
| 03:02.20 | `Zypher | but what can you do. |
| 03:02.30 | Aiiane | convince the US to annex japan? |
| 03:02.30 | `Zypher | who really wants to live with all those cosplay faggots. |
| 03:02.33 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 03:02.37 | thanners[work] | quota of 60GB per month. which is kinda annoying. |
| 03:02.43 | Aiiane | that sucks, thanners[work] :| |
| 03:02.47 | `Zypher | anyways |
| 03:02.48 | rizzen | YAY PATCH |
| 03:02.51 | `Zypher | brb |
| 03:02.53 | Aiiane | ~lart rizzen |
| 03:02.53 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses rizzen down |
| 03:03.09 | thanners[work] | yeah. it's nice and quick now. but I just have to be really careful, now that I actually have the bandwidth. |
| 03:03.30 | rizzen | shit, 60gb/month? |
| 03:03.37 | rizzen | i'd switch asap |
| 03:03.55 | rizzen | i probably go through that much for music torrents alone :o |
| 03:03.57 | thanners[work] | Stayed with a cousin in Seattle for awhile. Whatever she had beat my 1.5Mbit adsl line. had to upgrade when i got back |
| 03:04.09 | thanners[work] | hehe yeah it's annoying. quotas are really low here. |
| 03:04.26 | Aiiane | well I suppose the offshore bandwidth is a lot more expensive there |
| 03:04.59 | thanners[work] | aye. ah well. I'll live. for now. |
| 03:05.17 | Aiiane | what you should do |
| 03:05.19 | Aiiane | is start up a chain of gaming stores |
| 03:05.21 | thanners | thanners[work] was becoming too cumbersome. :P |
| 03:05.22 | Aiiane | and compete with EB |
| 03:05.34 | thanners | heh |
| 03:05.37 | Aiiane | and you'll get rich because as far as I can tell, every aussie I've met hates EB |
| 03:06.04 | thanners | they're somewhat nonawesome at times, yes. |
| 03:06.15 | rizzen | everyone hates ebgames |
| 03:06.20 | rizzen | they are a plague upon us |
| 03:06.57 | Aiiane | so it looks like my task for tonight will be pouring over a directory-diff of the interface files to look for any drastic changes |
| 03:07.03 | thanners | omg `Zypher, I have to thank you for mentioning (even if it was just in passing) Songbird. I'm really attached to it now. (c: |
| 03:07.43 | thanners | Aiiane: mm sounds like fun. |
| 03:08.14 | rizzen | i'd much rather pour over the warpstone looking to see what class i should play on release |
| 03:08.30 | thanners | In one way it'd probably be nice to have very few changes, while on the other, it'd be kinda nice to see they've gone and changed/added a bunch of (good) stuff. (c: |
| 03:08.45 | DarkTrooper | japan net was great when i was over there, unfortunatly if you use torrents you keep getting nasty letters :) |
| 03:08.55 | DarkTrooper | and what's this about a 4 gig patch? -_- |
| 03:09.47 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: misinformation |
| 03:10.01 | rizzen | MORE LIKE [insert #] MEGS RIGHT |
| 03:10.05 | DarkTrooper | oh good, i've got less than 3 gig left for the next 9 days ;) |
| 03:10.57 | DarkTrooper | also, EB is pretty lame, but you'd never be able to compete really, they have all the prime spots |
| 03:12.16 | thanners | they occasionally do decent storewide "specials |
| 03:12.29 | thanners | which really brings the games back to a reasonable price... |
| 03:12.56 | DarkTrooper | well their only bricks and mortar comp is Harvy Norman :) |
| 03:12.57 | thanners | How much do you pay for your games in the US? I never actually checked any game stores while I was over there. |
| 03:13.13 | DarkTrooper | less than us, even considering the conversion rate :) |
| 03:13.35 | thanners | heheh, fair enough. |
| 03:16.45 | DarkTrooper | noob Q inc: why do i see some mods using the event handler in both the lua and xml, and some just the lua? |
| 03:17.05 | Aiiane | personal preference |
| 03:17.26 | Aiiane | doing it in Lua is, in general, more flexible |
| 03:17.32 | Aiiane | also |
| 03:18.50 | DarkTrooper | so am i right in thinking that after the XML is run the same named lua is run? |
| 03:18.51 | thanners | i think they're run in order they're listed in the .mod |
| 03:19.26 | Aiiane | ^ that |
| 03:19.31 | DarkTrooper | oh right, so some people are using the xml to handle the events and provide calls, and others are relying on the lua to do that? |
| 03:19.34 | Aiiane | unless, of course, you specify the lua file in the XML file |
| 03:19.41 | Aiiane | in which case it's processed as part of processing the XML file |
| 03:20.35 | DarkTrooper | i really wish they wouldn't have used the .mod extention either |
| 03:23.00 | thanners | coz of the association with music players? |
| 03:23.30 | DarkTrooper | ya, when i forget to right click them, winamp tries to play it -_- |
| 03:26.25 | thanners | Do you play .mod files often? Might be worth just changing the association. (c: |
| 03:26.44 | DarkTrooper | ya i do :) |
| 03:26.49 | `Zypher[2] | DarkTrooper: just change the association to whatever editor imo |
| 03:27.19 | thanners | ah, okay (c: If not, after having winamp choke on them a few times I'd probably just say bugger it. But since you do, well.. |
| 03:27.23 | DarkTrooper | well i have on right click, to get the list, but i still use music .mod much more than addon .mods :) |
| 03:27.28 | thanners | it's just gonna be annoying (c: |
| 03:27.59 | DarkTrooper | i just feel it's bad form to use an extention that already existed for something completely different, as if no one bothered to check :) |
| 03:29.38 | thanners | *will create config files in the future called.. "My Preferences v3" or MP3 for short. |
| 03:29.50 | DarkTrooper | that's it, haha :) |
| 03:30.54 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: well maybe they just wanted to keep things simple |
| 03:31.02 | `Zypher | .mod is pretty simple imo |
| 03:31.15 | `Zypher | and .toc can be associated with hdds |
| 03:31.15 | `Zypher | but whatever. |
| 03:31.35 | thanners | pfft. we're way past the limitations of 8.3 filenames. |
| 03:31.38 | thanners | maybe they should've been called.. |
| 03:31.42 | DarkTrooper | .addon :) |
| 03:31.52 | thanners | hey that's a good one, actually. (c: |
| 03:32.02 | `Zypher | .gamebreaker imo |
| 03:32.04 | thanners | I was gonna suggest .warhammeronlineageofreckoningmodulefile |
| 03:32.16 | DarkTrooper | haah i could deal wiht gamebreaker too |
| 03:32.26 | DarkTrooper | there's already cries of people claiming they are :) |
| 03:32.32 | `Zypher | yup |
| 03:32.36 | `Zypher | :~( |
| 03:32.40 | thanners | yah. but I can't help but read the forums. |
| 03:33.30 | smcn | .hax0r |
| 03:34.09 | thanners | whoo! |
| 03:34.15 | Aiiane | there are some really funny comments in the interface source |
| 03:34.22 | `Zypher | Aiiane: ya |
| 03:36.42 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 03:36.48 | Freddy09 | one of the comments i saw was something like |
| 03:36.53 | Freddy09 | --stopper for idiots who try to cal this |
| 03:36.59 | Freddy09 | it was an empty function |
| 03:37.00 | Freddy09 | xD |
| 03:37.19 | `Zypher | to cal this eh? |
| 03:37.39 | Freddy09 | yes |
| 03:37.45 | Freddy09 | i cal everything |
| 03:38.55 | `Zypher | gotcha |
| 03:39.03 | DarkTrooper | oh damn, lol, i downloaded ckknights hello world mod example a few days ago, and it's on the warwiki anyway |
| 03:39.05 | `Zypher | bless your soul. |
| 03:39.28 | rizzen | typing it out yourself builds character |
| 03:39.47 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: this is true. |
| 03:39.52 | DarkTrooper | nah, just to look at, comparing the different way people do thing/trying to work it out :) |
| 03:47.48 | `Zypher[2] | I think im going to make all my functions like |
| 03:47.59 | `Zypher[2] | zypher.lol = function() |
| 03:48.02 | `Zypher[2] | instead of |
| 03:48.06 | `Zypher[2] | function zypher.lol() |
| 03:56.22 | rizzen | zypher.function() = lol; |
| 03:58.19 | DarkTrooper | just to confuse us all? :) |
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| 04:11.43 | rizzen | oh excellent |
| 04:11.45 | rizzen | 5th element is on |
| 04:18.51 | Belatuca1ros | exciting |
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| 04:24.57 | rizzen | damn right |
| 04:25.14 | rizzen | 5th element is an awesome movie |
| 04:25.14 | `Zypher[2] | DarkTrooper: yess |
| 04:25.21 | natan| | is there a way to test out a ui atm if I alter it? |
| 04:25.32 | natan| | see that my syntaxes are correct |
| 04:25.40 | rizzen | load up war |
| 04:25.40 | natan| | or do i need to actually be loged into game |
| 04:25.53 | rizzen | you need to be in-game to see the ui usually |
| 04:26.06 | natan| | servers are down till open beta :/ |
| 04:26.16 | rizzen | guess you're sol :o |
| 04:26.20 | `Zypher[2] | natan|: or bug Aiiane |
| 04:26.36 | natan| | does he have some sort of ui viewer? |
| 04:26.53 | DarkTrooper | elders still have access to the elder servers |
| 04:27.19 | natan| | i know in daoc some players made a mod utility for the ui |
| 04:27.50 | rizzen | aiiane is a she and there is no known thing for war |
| 04:28.07 | rizzen | the closed servers are still down, so for now |
| 04:28.11 | rizzen | we're all sol |
| 04:28.13 | `Zypher[2] | natan|: she is in elder and is kind enough to test for us. |
| 04:28.19 | natan| | ic |
| 04:29.10 | DarkTrooper | lol Aiiane, does it ever get old explaining to people 'she not he' ? |
| 04:30.03 | `Zypher[2] | DarkTrooper: well since girls like attention, probably not. |
| 04:31.10 | natan| | anyway |
| 04:31.31 | Aiiane | yes, it gets old :| |
| 04:31.32 | natan| | i'm thinking that buffs/debuffs should be taken off the group window completely |
| 04:32.19 | natan| | they clutter it up way to much and cause problems with wrapping around |
| 04:32.29 | Aiiane | well, at least my unitframe project will have the option to toggle them |
| 04:32.51 | Aiiane | also investigating the possibility of allowing disabling of wrapping, so they just extend in a single line. not sure how feasible that will be though |
| 04:33.01 | natan| | there should be an optional 2nd window which will show buffs/debuffs somewhere else if wanted |
| 04:33.24 | natan| | the problem then is that depending on group window location they may start covering up other stuff |
| 04:33.50 | natan| | i remember several times when I was playing that the buffs started wrapping into multiple rows |
| 04:34.02 | `Zypher[2] | you could |
| 04:34.12 | `Zypher[2] | go look at whinyspelltimer |
| 04:34.19 | natan| | and i couldn't tell if people were hurt in my group because of buffs covering their health |
| 04:34.27 | `Zypher[2] | and create something like that for only your buffs. |
| 04:34.52 | DarkTrooper | haha @ having a line of buffs/debuffs right across the screen ^^ |
| 04:34.57 | natan| | i haven't looked at the api yet really considering i dont really have anything to test my stuff on since servers are down |
| 04:34.58 | rizzen | need some minimalist ui's going down |
| 04:35.11 | rizzen | give it time |
| 04:35.26 | Aiiane | on a side note; hiding the default buff frames is actually really annoying :| |
| 04:35.35 | Aiiane | codewise |
| 04:35.45 | rizzen | as the saying goes, rome wasnt built in a day |
| 04:36.16 | natan| | the ui coding doesn't allow you to build the ui from the ground up? |
| 04:36.32 | natan| | the daoc one wasn't that restrictive |
| 04:37.02 | Aiiane | natan|: You could build it from the ground up; but you'd have to rewrite everything |
| 04:37.11 | Aiiane | which is overkill if all you care about is unitframes |
| 04:37.31 | natan| | not really sure what are "unitframes"? |
| 04:37.43 | natan| | haven't heard that term before |
| 04:37.43 | Aiiane | unit frames are the windows that display information about units |
| 04:37.55 | Aiiane | yourself, group members, targets |
| 04:37.58 | rizzen | your hp bar + portrait + buffs |
| 04:38.02 | rizzen | what she said |
| 04:38.02 | natan| | the whole group window is one unitframe? |
| 04:38.06 | rizzen | those are the unit frames |
| 04:38.08 | DarkTrooper | a generic term for what she said :) |
| 04:38.10 | Aiiane | no, it's a collection of unitframes |
| 04:38.22 | Aiiane | "a unitframe" usually refers to a frame for a single unit |
| 04:38.22 | natan| | okay |
| 04:38.31 | Aiiane | "unitframes" usually refers to displays for all the units in your interface |
| 04:38.49 | natan| | so you can't just not include the buff/debuff unitframe? |
| 04:38.57 | Aiiane | it's not that simple |
| 04:38.59 | natan| | in the code |
| 04:39.06 | Aiiane | and there isn't a buff/debuff unitframe |
| 04:39.08 | Aiiane | unitframes are per-unit |
| 04:39.12 | Aiiane | i.e. there is a player unitframe |
| 04:39.17 | Aiiane | which has a buff/debuff component |
| 04:39.25 | Aiiane | and a groupmember1 unitframe |
| 04:39.29 | Aiiane | which has a buff/debuff component |
| 04:39.30 | Aiiane | etc |
| 04:39.31 | natan| | what should i be looking at in my war directory to get an idea of the syntax they used |
| 04:39.33 | DarkTrooper | so you can turn of the whole player one :) |
| 04:39.44 | natan| | like to see how they composed the default group window |
| 04:39.45 | Aiiane | ~warapi |
| 04:39.46 | purl | somebody said warapi was http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 04:40.00 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: my ui is already minimal |
| 04:40.11 | `Zypher[2] | i'll show you guys once servers come back up :P |
| 04:40.27 | DarkTrooper | what's the fetish with minimal UI's anyhow? |
| 04:40.29 | rizzen | :) |
| 04:40.38 | rizzen | i dislike having mods everywhere |
| 04:40.42 | DarkTrooper | i've always liked UI's that had all the info you wanted :) |
| 04:40.43 | rizzen | taking up space |
| 04:40.51 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: less information makes it easier to comprehend the crucial parts |
| 04:41.04 | rizzen | i was a rogue in wow |
| 04:41.11 | rizzen | i didnt need a whole lot of shit to read |
| 04:41.12 | Aiiane | and minimal UIs also give you more regular screen space, for better situational awareness |
| 04:41.31 | rizzen | what we need is a discordmods.com for war |
| 04:41.37 | `Zypher | no we don't |
| 04:41.43 | DarkTrooper | i guess it depends how big your screen is to begin with, a bigger screen would give you more space, while still having info everywhere at readable sizes |
| 04:41.45 | `Zypher | discord was terribly unoptimized. |
| 04:41.57 | rizzen | i dont mean for the mods itself silly |
| 04:42.02 | `Zypher | lol oh |
| 04:42.09 | rizzen | after loz went into hibernation |
| 04:42.15 | rizzen | it was just a forum for ui modders |
| 04:42.23 | rizzen | had some lovely ui's posted there |
| 04:42.25 | `Zypher | aka wowace? |
| 04:42.31 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: just the existence of the info is a distraction |
| 04:42.57 | `Zypher | :~D |
| 04:42.59 | DarkTrooper | everyone's different of course, but i didn't find so, i'd ignore what i didn't want to know about, as the situation demanded |
| 04:43.15 | `Zypher | so why have it on your screen if your ignoring it? |
| 04:43.35 | DarkTrooper | because a few seconds later you might want to know what's happening? :) |
| 04:43.35 | natan| | Aiiane - you are saying something like this would be hard to do, http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9340/gwwr4.jpg? |
| 04:43.54 | Aiiane | No, that's completely possible, natan| |
| 04:44.13 | `Zypher | natan|: that would actually be pretty cool |
| 04:44.18 | Aiiane | my gripe about hiding buff frames was just from a focused technical sense; once I figured out how to do it, it's not *that* complicated |
| 04:44.20 | `Zypher | two small vertical bars |
| 04:44.22 | DarkTrooper | i'm probably the odd one out, but i disliked having to do things like open bags to find out how much cash i had, and how many reagents, or to open the char screen to see how much of what stat i had :) |
| 04:44.25 | Aiiane | just annoying to figure out how to get it to work |
| 04:44.33 | natan| | that is a daoc ui |
| 04:44.57 | Aiiane | natan|: the warband frame already does almost that |
| 04:44.57 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: lazy |
| 04:45.02 | DarkTrooper | that's me :) |
| 04:45.13 | Aiiane | (the default warband frame) |
| 04:45.16 | natan| | warband frame? link? |
| 04:45.21 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: I would rather hide everything, and bind it all. |
| 04:45.40 | `Zypher | :-* |
| 04:45.56 | Aiiane | um, natan|, ill have to see if I have a screenie of it somewhere |
| 04:46.30 | DarkTrooper | those things didn't take up much space, but action bars and cooldown timers and threat meters etc, are situational but i want them wher ei can see them, not in some corner that i dont' look in the heat of the battle |
| 04:47.38 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: I don't use a threat meter |
| 04:47.41 | rizzen | `Zypher nein |
| 04:47.41 | rizzen | http://underworldexodus.com/forum/UIForum.php |
| 04:47.42 | Aiiane | natan|: http://www.aiiane.net/images/warband.jpg |
| 04:47.44 | rizzen | is what i meant |
| 04:47.45 | rizzen | :P |
| 04:48.05 | natan| | yeah thats not bad |
| 04:48.07 | rizzen | cant beleive the place is still up |
| 04:48.15 | natan| | okay so to change my group window lets say |
| 04:48.39 | natan| | i change my modsettings.xlm file inside my EA_GroupWindow directory? |
| 04:48.46 | Aiiane | no |
| 04:48.48 | natan| | xml |
| 04:48.52 | `Zypher | rizzen: thats not worth a crap |
| 04:49.04 | Aiiane | natan|: you can't actually touch the code for the default UI |
| 04:49.05 | `Zypher | rizzen: those people are just kids who can put addons together |
| 04:49.08 | `Zypher | big whoop |
| 04:49.20 | Aiiane | natan|: you can only write your own modules, or write code that modifies what's created by the default code |
| 04:49.22 | natan| | okay... |
| 04:49.41 | rizzen | matter of opinion |
| 04:49.44 | rizzen | maybe its like that now |
| 04:49.50 | rizzen | but back before i quit? |
| 04:49.54 | rizzen | it was a good place for shit |
| 04:49.58 | natan| | so basically i write up a new group window then |
| 04:50.07 | `Zypher | rizzen: I just prefer irc |
| 04:50.07 | Aiiane | rizzen: well, basically there are 2 groups of people |
| 04:50.12 | Aiiane | coders, and designers |
| 04:50.15 | Aiiane | sometimes those overlap |
| 04:50.18 | Aiiane | sometimes they don't |
| 04:50.24 | rizzen | most of the times, they dont :P |
| 04:50.29 | Aiiane | WowAce is coders, primarily |
| 04:50.34 | Aiiane | discord, at least now, is designers |
| 04:50.35 | `Zypher | I'm more of a designer, but I want to do both. |
| 04:50.53 | rizzen | discord has been about design since loz quit working on it |
| 04:51.18 | rizzen | i was always more interested in that area when i played wow, but i wasnt in computer science back then |
| 04:51.44 | `Zypher | everything I see in wow is so similar these days |
| 04:52.31 | rizzen | at this point i cant look at a screenshot from wow without seeing 148913 addons |
| 04:52.41 | Aiiane | right now, I'm basically just hacking on a modified version of the default unitframes to give people a stopgap; something to provide a basic "clean" unitframe for them |
| 04:53.17 | `Zypher | Aiiane: is it possible to keep people from uploading "Compilations" on curse or are all of the standard addons going to get burried? |
| 04:53.17 | Aiiane | `Zypher - CurseForge doesn't allow UI Packs anymore |
| 04:53.17 | `Zypher | but curse? |
| 04:53.17 | Aiiane | can't upload to curse anymore |
| 04:53.17 | Aiiane | it all goes through CF |
| 04:53.17 | `Zypher | oh ok |
| 04:53.18 | `Zypher | thats good |
| 04:53.23 | Aiiane | eventually, CF will have a system to create packs |
| 04:53.29 | Aiiane | but they'll be pushed to separate categories |
| 04:53.30 | `Zypher | bag |
| 04:53.31 | `Zypher | bah* |
| 04:53.37 | Aiiane | so they won't drown out regular addons |
| 04:53.48 | `Zypher | that was the major reason I strayed away from curse |
| 04:53.57 | `Zypher | because it ended up being all "UI Packs" |
| 04:54.03 | Aiiane | and they won't be file uploads |
| 04:54.07 | `Zypher | :D |
| 04:54.09 | Aiiane | so much as descriptors of sets of addons |
| 04:54.18 | Aiiane | and possible configuration settings to go with them |
| 04:54.19 | Aiiane | either way |
| 04:54.25 | Aiiane | it's going to be a lot different from the old packs |
| 04:54.30 | `Zypher | thats good. |
| 04:55.23 | rizzen | very good |
| 04:55.52 | `Zypher | rizzen: I used to get at least 10 requests for my ui on shadowpriest.com per day. |
| 04:56.00 | `Zypher | and it was just insane how lazy people are. |
| 04:56.11 | `Zypher | I would post lists of what addons I was using |
| 04:56.15 | `Zypher | but it didn't matter. |
| 04:56.50 | `Zypher | Aiiane: wtb elder. |
| 04:57.28 | Aiiane | lol |
| 04:58.36 | rizzen | wtb elder servers up |
| 04:58.42 | rizzen | i'd rather not have an 'elder' |
| 04:59.10 | Aiiane | I mentioned it already but I'll say it again, <3 kdiff3 |
| 04:59.13 | `Zypher | Elder pr0n imo |
| 04:59.20 | Aiiane | full-directory diffs are FTW |
| 04:59.55 | `Zypher | you has peaked my curiosity. |
| 05:00.23 | rizzen | how much has changed? :o |
| 05:00.44 | `Zypher | (9:57:43 PM) Aiiane: there aren't huge amounts of UI changes in 4.1 |
| 05:01.17 | rizzen | that was a long time ago |
| 05:01.24 | rizzen | and im way too lazy to scroll up |
| 05:01.24 | `Zypher | that was 3 mins ago |
| 05:01.25 | `Zypher | :P |
| 05:01.36 | rizzen | lies |
| 05:02.12 | rizzen | i really dont see her saying that line |
| 05:02.15 | rizzen | thats very strange |
| 05:02.38 | rizzen | all i got a xx:57 is |
| 05:02.40 | rizzen | 15,13 22:57 11@Aiiane 14 lol |
| 05:02.52 | rizzen | ah |
| 05:03.35 | `Zypher | rizzen: just leave it alone |
| 05:03.56 | rizzen | alas i cannot |
| 05:04.12 | `Zypher | too bad.. |
| 05:04.40 | rizzen | it is indeed |
| 05:04.53 | rizzen | back to the 5th element! |
| 05:05.28 | `Zypher | orly. |
| 05:05.44 | DarkTrooper | did people actually use those packs? |
| 05:05.57 | rizzen | ui packs? |
| 05:05.58 | rizzen | yes |
| 05:06.03 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: yes sadly. |
| 05:06.04 | DarkTrooper | i found they always had stuff i didn't want, or didn't have stuff i did, thus it was just as easy to do your own :) |
| 05:06.16 | rizzen | the average person is too lazy to find and download every addon they want |
| 05:06.29 | rizzen | much less extract them all to the same directory |
| 05:06.29 | Aiiane | the fact that you are in this channel, DarkTrooper |
| 05:06.38 | Aiiane | means that you're far above what the "average user" is |
| 05:06.46 | DarkTrooper | oh i knew that already ;) |
| 05:06.53 | natan| | did the war devs setup this warapi site? |
| 05:07.29 | DarkTrooper | the war devs havn't committed to releasing the proper UI docs yet :) |
| 05:07.54 | natan| | where did the list of all these functions come from then |
| 05:07.58 | Belatuca1ros | ;x |
| 05:08.06 | rizzen | bust open the elder client and check the new server selection screen :P |
| 05:08.22 | rizzen | that wasnt an answer for you btw |
| 05:08.25 | rizzen | just a general statement |
| 05:09.32 | `Zypher | natan|: there is a unittest file |
| 05:09.39 | `Zypher | that has all the functions in it. |
| 05:09.45 | `Zypher | I pretty much just copy pasted. |
| 05:10.11 | natan| | that is somewhere in the war folder? |
| 05:10.34 | `Zypher | interface.myp |
| 05:10.41 | DarkTrooper | one thing that (imo) is bad about the wiki is methods page, it's all listed as one big clump, lists of 200 with no index :) |
| 05:10.57 | natan| | yeah |
| 05:11.10 | natan| | should split it up alphabetically |
| 05:11.39 | `Zypher | ctrl+f |
| 05:11.42 | `Zypher | fail less. |
| 05:12.11 | DarkTrooper | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/Category:API_Methods ctrl-F to the methods to do with Window's :) |
| 05:12.41 | natan| | find is not a substitute for actual organization :P |
| 05:13.03 | `Zypher | see |
| 05:13.11 | `Zypher | I don't use this page |
| 05:13.12 | `Zypher | at all |
| 05:13.28 | `Zypher | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Full_list |
| 05:13.41 | `Zypher | that page |
| 05:13.44 | `Zypher | has everything I want |
| 05:13.45 | natan| | they are split up alphabetially but there is no index to flip through the letters quickly |
| 05:13.53 | natan| | for methods |
| 05:14.14 | `Zypher | so make one.. |
| 05:14.21 | natan| | need a quick link for the letters are the top or something |
| 05:15.00 | natan| | even if i signed up i'm not sure i could change that page? |
| 05:15.18 | natan| | what resistrictions this wiki has for changes |
| 05:15.20 | `Zypher | natan|: thats the thing about wiki you can change anything you want. |
| 05:15.45 | natan| | some limit changes like that |
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| 05:17.40 | Belatuca1ros | yawn |
| 05:17.43 | Belatuca1ros | sleep soon imo |
| 05:18.04 | rizzen | pff |
| 05:18.07 | rizzen | its only 11pm here |
| 05:18.11 | rizzen | plenty of time yet |
| 05:18.11 | Belatuca1ros | ah |
| 05:18.13 | Belatuca1ros | I live on real time |
| 05:18.26 | rizzen | never heard of that time zone |
| 05:18.42 | Aiiane | natan|: aside from specifically protected pages, any logged-in user can edit any page |
| 05:18.47 | natan| | yeah it doesn't look like i can edit the layout of the page links for the categories |
| 05:19.14 | DarkTrooper | it's usually the one where you are and everyone else isn't :) |
| 05:19.14 | Aiiane | only a few pages are protected; the Main Page is the most notable |
| 05:19.14 | Aiiane | natan|: the layout is auto-generated by mediawiki, so no |
| 05:19.14 | natan| | right |
| 05:19.29 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I really dislike the main page rofl |
| 05:19.31 | `Zypher | :| |
| 05:19.35 | natan| | well thats what i was talking about :P |
| 05:20.08 | DarkTrooper | and can i ask, why is it thewarwiki.com, was warwiki used already? |
| 05:20.47 | `Zypher | idk |
| 05:20.49 | `Zypher | ask garth |
| 05:21.59 | DarkTrooper | yeah that'd be because warwiki.com is already used, by some lame company i might add |
| 05:22.59 | rizzen | lmao |
| 05:23.07 | Belatuca1ros | I don't know |
| 05:23.12 | Belatuca1ros | that's a pretty killer domain parking page |
| 05:23.25 | rizzen | its basically a wiki that links to specific search engine queries |
| 05:26.27 | Aiiane | I have like... 17 windows open atm >.> |
| 05:26.34 | Aiiane | most of which have tabs >.> |
| 05:26.45 | DarkTrooper | dual screened? |
| 05:27.11 | Aiiane | yes |
| 05:27.15 | rizzen | either that or multiple workspaces |
| 05:27.25 | DarkTrooper | dual screen is the only way to go imo :) |
| 05:27.25 | Aiiane | dual screens |
| 05:27.40 | Aiiane | I wouldn't want to swap back to single after having switched to dual |
| 05:28.14 | rizzen | some of us dont have the money to spend >< |
| 05:28.42 | thanners | I had two screens to work with at work. And now I don't. And I do miss the dual-screenness. |
| 05:28.51 | rizzen | i'd love 2 new monitors, but my tower needs attention first |
| 05:28.54 | `Zypher | If only SLI supported dual monitors |
| 05:29.14 | DarkTrooper | (apparenly) it has it downfalls tho, i hear it lowers fps |
| 05:29.59 | Aiiane | what does |
| 05:30.02 | `Zypher | ? |
| 05:30.09 | DarkTrooper | dual mon |
| 05:30.15 | Aiiane | dual monitors? it's just the same as running at a higher resolution |
| 05:30.19 | Aiiane | more screen space to render |
| 05:30.21 | Aiiane | that's all really |
| 05:30.26 | `Zypher | yar |
| 05:30.32 | `Zypher | and unless thats something like |
| 05:30.42 | `Zypher | lua: 1280 * 3 |
| 05:30.45 | DarkTrooper | what about windowed game on 1st mon, regular desktop on 2nd? |
| 05:30.48 | `Zypher | booo |
| 05:30.49 | `Zypher | wtf lua |
| 05:30.53 | `Zypher | lua> 1280*3 |
| 05:30.53 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 3840 |
| 05:30.55 | rizzen | excellent, we'll finally be able to raise/lower our settings in the new patch |
| 05:30.57 | `Zypher | lol |
| 05:31.17 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: your still rendering the other desktop |
| 05:31.30 | DarkTrooper | in 2D :) |
| 05:31.35 | `Zypher | not in vista. |
| 05:31.39 | DarkTrooper | of course |
| 05:31.58 | `Zypher | I want to get a Matrox TripleHead2Go |
| 05:32.04 | `Zypher | but I use 1440x900 |
| 05:32.05 | DarkTrooper | that would exaplin why i get less fps than i anticipate -_- |
| 05:32.11 | `Zypher | and DVI doesn't support over 3840 |
| 05:32.12 | Aiiane | DarkTrooper: same FPS as if you were running the game windowed normally |
| 05:32.33 | Aiiane | if you're running vista |
| 05:32.36 | rizzen | speaking of running the game |
| 05:32.37 | Aiiane | than you're rendering Aero |
| 05:32.40 | rizzen | we can create characters! |
| 05:32.42 | `Zypher | lua> 1440*3 |
| 05:32.42 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 4320 |
| 05:33.00 | `Zypher | rizzen: elder? |
| 05:33.07 | rizzen | maybe |
| 05:33.10 | `Zypher | le sigh |
| 05:33.16 | rizzen | im highly doubting the zones will load |
| 05:33.19 | `Zypher | am I the only one not in elder :-| |
| 05:33.36 | rizzen | if it makes you feel better |
| 05:33.43 | rizzen | its not even my elder account |
| 05:33.48 | `Zypher | lol |
| 05:35.15 | `Zypher | so #waruidev what should I do tomarrow? |
| 05:35.40 | Belatuca1ros | sleep |
| 05:35.49 | `Zypher | Belatuca1ros: I already do that |
| 05:35.50 | rizzen | sleeping is fun |
| 05:35.54 | `Zypher | it happens every night |
| 05:35.56 | `Zypher | when I get tired |
| 05:35.58 | Belatuca1ros | do it more hardcore |
| 05:36.07 | `Zypher | but sleep is for the weak. |
| 05:37.27 | rizzen | sleep is hardcore |
| 05:37.29 | rizzen | also |
| 05:37.31 | rizzen | check your pm's |
| 05:37.34 | rizzen | [2] |
| 05:38.28 | Belatuca1ros | sleep is for the strong so they can stay that way =p |
| 05:38.52 | rizzen | sleep is for the weak until you fall asleep |
| 05:39.02 | rizzen | at which point it becomes eternal bliss |
| 05:40.06 | `Zypher | :D |
| 05:40.32 | DarkTrooper | sleep is always good, beats being bored :) |
| 05:40.56 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: I'm going to make a clock |
| 05:41.00 | `Zypher | its going to be an image |
| 05:41.02 | `Zypher | with 60 frames |
| 05:41.07 | `Zypher | and it will run at 1fps |
| 05:41.15 | `Zypher | that way we can know when 1 minute has passed. |
| 05:41.23 | rizzen | sounds very boring |
| 05:41.29 | DarkTrooper | yeah i saw something like that on the addons, but how can you guarentee it runs at 1 fps? |
| 05:41.47 | `Zypher | you can tell it how many fps you want. |
| 05:42.26 | DarkTrooper | i havn't looked into it but can you get server time returned to you in the ui? |
| 05:42.30 | `Zypher | <AnimatedImage name="$parentGlow" texture="anim_waaagh_1" fps="10" sticky="false"> |
| 05:42.39 | `Zypher | DarkTrooper: sorta |
| 05:42.49 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.00 | `Zypher | but the game clock is on a 6 hour rotation I think |
| 05:43.18 | DarkTrooper | ah so that's ingame time, rather than server location time |
| 05:43.23 | `Zypher | yes |
| 05:43.56 | `Zypher | I think |
| 05:44.01 | `Zypher | my wrist is sprained lol |
| 05:44.11 | rizzen | arent all of the servers going to be in fairfax? |
| 05:44.21 | DarkTrooper | nope, mine is in melb ;) |
| 05:44.37 | Belatuca1ros | the NA servers are, at this point in time |
| 05:44.46 | Belatuca1ros | but /time is game time |
| 05:45.01 | rizzen | i meant NA servers, yeah |
| 05:45.09 | DarkTrooper | ya, all NA servers are in one spot |
| 05:45.24 | `Zypher | which is fail imo |
| 05:45.29 | Belatuca1ros | meh |
| 05:45.30 | `Zypher | they need a west coast server cluster |
| 05:45.36 | `Zypher | or atleast a texas one |
| 05:45.37 | Belatuca1ros | has never been a problem |
| 05:45.51 | `Zypher | I don't like high ping |
| 05:46.02 | rizzen | you dont? |
| 05:46.04 | Belatuca1ros | I forget the name of their DC but it's peering to like...everyone |
| 05:46.04 | DarkTrooper | what do you class as high ping tho? |
| 05:46.04 | `Zypher | and my geographical location shouldn't determine my ping. |
| 05:46.14 | rizzen | it will take a bit more time to get to me i'm betting |
| 05:46.23 | `Zypher | 100+ |
| 05:46.37 | `Zypher | I come from fps standards |
| 05:46.42 | `Zypher | anything above 100 is terrible |
| 05:46.48 | rizzen | pinging 110 to chicago in w:et was fun >> |
| 05:46.56 | DarkTrooper | i dunno, people from WA get sub 100ms over here, and that's literally on the other side of the country from the servers |
| 05:47.12 | `Zypher | here |
| 05:47.14 | DarkTrooper | depends on your ips's and backhauls tho i guess |
| 05:47.21 | `Zypher | someone give me a server in Virginia |
| 05:47.39 | thanners | 400ms to play WoW on good days. ahh. |
| 05:47.44 | Belatuca1ros | ping the beta center |
| 05:47.48 | `Zypher | and I'll ping it from a server at alchemy in LA on a level 3 oc 48 |
| 05:47.59 | DarkTrooper | lol i wasn't going to mention that than, as everyone's over hearing the aussies whinge ^^ |
| 05:48.06 | thanners | So glad. Melbourne servers are gonna be nice. |
| 05:48.27 | `Zypher | I feel that the damn kangaroos are getting more then west coasters. |
| 05:48.28 | `Zypher | imo |
| 05:48.43 | Belatuca1ros | getting 47ms to their firewall from Toronto, atm |
| 05:48.53 | `Zypher | Belatuca1ros: wow |
| 05:49.00 | `Zypher | my ssh account got closed |
| 05:49.01 | `Zypher | :( |
| 05:49.06 | Belatuca1ros | fired |
| 05:49.07 | thanners | heh, I was happy with my 400, though. (c: |
| 05:49.24 | `Zypher | thanners: 400 is like terrible |
| 05:49.27 | `Zypher | so terrible. |
| 05:49.39 | thanners | my friends would always complain though, coz they had worse. |
| 05:49.44 | DarkTrooper | using the internode proxy we were able to get 250-300, which was fine |
| 05:49.49 | thanners | so it made my 400 _awesome_. |
| 05:50.14 | DarkTrooper | yeah yeah, college campus girl :) |
| 05:50.21 | thanners | actually, yeah, I think I got mine down to about 300 when I started playing with that sort of thing, too |
| 05:50.44 | thanners | for some reason my friends never had any luck. I blame it on bad routers. |
| 05:50.46 | `Zypher | Aiiane: your just too kool for skool. |
| 05:50.59 | rizzen | i believe the techinical term is kewl |
| 05:51.06 | rizzen | minus one of those i's |
| 05:51.20 | Belatuca1ros | beleve |
| 05:51.21 | Belatuca1ros | night |
| 05:51.29 | `Zypher | login1.war.eamythic.com |
| 05:51.37 | `Zypher | ping that Belatuca1ros |
| 05:51.44 | `Zypher | wait |
| 05:51.45 | `Zypher | thats not it |
| 05:51.46 | `Zypher | hmm |
| 05:52.21 | DarkTrooper | no it's not, it's dropping icmps, as it should :) |
| 05:52.48 | Belatuca1ros | they block pings, best you can do is wait for it to hit their firewall at verizon's DC :P |
| 05:53.30 | `Zypher | login1.war.eamythic.com |
| 05:53.31 | `Zypher | is right |
| 05:53.34 | `Zypher | I'm just dumb |
| 05:53.52 | Belatuca1ros | better off pinging a game server anyway, but should be similar |
| 05:54.10 | `Zypher | yah |
| 05:54.12 | Belatuca1ros | going to get stuck at 206.112.184.37 generally |
| 05:54.12 | `Zypher | it looks like |
| 05:54.22 | `Zypher | I'll be dealing with 120ms ping. |
| 05:54.30 | `Zypher | thats just so fucking gay. |
| 05:54.34 | Belatuca1ros | how many hops? |
| 05:54.41 | `Zypher | no offense to any gays. |
| 05:54.43 | `Zypher | 15 |
| 05:54.58 | Belatuca1ros | I get 47 over 12 hops...may want to examine your isp =) hehe |
| 05:55.13 | `Zypher | from the west coast? |
| 05:55.18 | `Zypher | where are you tracing from? |
| 05:55.36 | Belatuca1ros | nah, I'm from TO. I can hit my DC in dallas at 48ms though |
| 05:55.38 | Belatuca1ros | let me ping from there |
| 05:55.39 | Belatuca1ros | sec |
| 05:56.04 | `Zypher | well |
| 05:56.18 | `Zypher | login.cfg leads me to believe there will be other server "regions" |
| 05:56.28 | Belatuca1ros | 44ms from dallas -> verizon/VA |
| 05:56.41 | `Zypher | <RegionList> |
| 05:56.41 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.41 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.41 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.41 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.42 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.44 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.45 | Belatuca1ros | primarily through alter.net |
| 05:56.46 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.48 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.50 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.52 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.54 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.56 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.57 | Belatuca1ros | lulz spam |
| 05:56.58 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.00 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.02 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.04 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.06 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.08 | rizzen | spammmmmmmm |
| 05:57.08 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.10 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.10 | Belatuca1ros | they mentioned them before |
| 05:57.12 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.14 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.16 | `Zypher | yah |
| 05:57.16 | rizzen | also |
| 05:57.18 | `Zypher | but alter.net here too |
| 05:57.18 | Belatuca1ros | wow way to spam a whole file |
| 05:57.18 | rizzen | TO? |
| 05:57.20 | Belatuca1ros | welcome to irc |
| 05:57.30 | `Zypher | Belatuca1ros: thats not the whole file :P |
| 05:57.32 | Belatuca1ros | TO = Toronto |
| 05:57.34 | `Zypher | just the regionlist :P |
| 05:57.39 | rizzen | ah, bastard |
| 05:57.43 | Belatuca1ros | no u r |
| 05:57.50 | `Zypher | see wow used att |
| 05:57.52 | rizzen | im not the one living in toronto! |
| 05:57.58 | `Zypher | so I think thats why I did well ping wise |
| 05:58.06 | rizzen | sask > ontario kthx |
| 05:58.09 | Belatuca1ros | hah |
| 05:58.12 | Belatuca1ros | if you like.... |
| 05:58.18 | Belatuca1ros | no I couldn't come up with anything. |
| 05:58.34 | `Zypher | login2 gave me 95m |
| 05:58.36 | `Zypher | ms* |
| 05:58.41 | Belatuca1ros | I bet you get to say "regina" a lot more than I do though. so I'll give you a pass |
| 05:58.44 | Belatuca1ros | night |
| 05:58.55 | Aiiane | "other regions" would probably be EU vs Oceanic vs US :P |
| 05:58.58 | rizzen | night, and no, i dont :P |
| 05:59.16 | Belatuca1ros | nah they mentioned it before aiaiaiaiane |
| 05:59.21 | rizzen | regina is a wasteland filled with retards and piss |
| 05:59.26 | rizzen | much like toronto! lul |
| 05:59.26 | Belatuca1ros | they'll probably segregate as east/mountain/west etc |
| 05:59.30 | Belatuca1ros | for timezone purposes |
| 05:59.45 | rizzen | it'll be central |
| 05:59.45 | `Zypher | Belatuca1ros: yesssssuh |
| 05:59.55 | rizzen | definitely in dallas |
| 05:59.58 | rizzen | always is |
| 06:00.09 | `Zypher | I hope they do LA servers again |
| 06:00.17 | rizzen | although i have no idea what timezone dallas is in |
| 06:00.28 | `Zypher | -6 |
| 06:00.41 | `Zypher | East = -5 |
| 06:00.45 | `Zypher | center = -6 |
| 06:00.48 | rizzen | central then |
| 06:00.58 | rizzen | i love living in saskatchewan |
| 06:01.07 | rizzen | i can never recall what time zone im in |
| 06:01.24 | `Zypher | canadia is just our hat. |
| 06:02.06 | rizzen | always comes back to a good hat joke |
| 06:02.22 | rizzen | i believe it is webcomic time, ze updates should be pouring in |
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| 06:06.57 | `Zypher[2] | bah |
| 06:07.07 | `Zypher[2] | cya tomarrow peoples. |
| 06:08.09 | thanners | seeeya |
| 06:12.00 | DarkTrooper | while i'm late to this convo, the biggest clue to leaving the possibility open for other regions is the ui default support is for double byte characters :) |
| 06:26.18 | rizzen | bah |
| 06:26.25 | rizzen | procrastination is my friend tonight |
| 06:26.31 | rizzen | first the fifth element is on |
| 06:26.33 | rizzen | now sin city is |
| 06:30.59 | Daegalus | lol |
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| 07:38.45 | DarkTrooper | does /reloadui work the same in war as it does in wow? ie as long as the file was loaded at some stage (in teh addons list), you could be activly fiddling wiht lua code, save it, and /reloadui to test it out |
| 07:39.00 | vjeux | yep |
| 07:39.07 | DarkTrooper | nice |
| 07:44.34 | Daegalus | Darktrooper: its actually one step ahead |
| 07:44.39 | Daegalus | first it realods very quickly |
| 07:44.43 | Daegalus | even with a lot of addons |
| 07:44.44 | Daegalus | second |
| 07:44.50 | Daegalus | you can remove and add addons while running the game |
| 07:44.57 | Daegalus | and it will remove add them as they happen |
| 07:45.02 | Daegalus | so you cna completely add a new addon |
| 07:45.06 | Daegalus | hit /reloadui |
| 07:45.09 | Daegalus | and it will show up |
| 07:45.09 | DarkTrooper | dynamic loadin and loadou <3 |
| 07:45.21 | Daegalus | pretty much |
| 07:45.28 | Daegalus | so its a lot more enhanced than WoWs |
| 07:46.15 | DarkTrooper | is it faster because the base optimised better, or because there just won't be as many addons as you'd expect in a wow setup? |
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| 07:46.42 | Aiiane | mostly the latter. |
| 07:46.47 | Aiiane | hi smcn |
| 07:46.55 | Daegalus | njo its faster cause they implemented better. When reloading theUI, it doesnt reload graphics or anything else. Just hte UI. so it jsut redoes the UI again |
| 07:47.02 | Daegalus | while WoW, also reloads yoru graphics too |
| 07:47.28 | Daegalus | its just not noticeable since they were already cached, but it still reloads them, so it takes longer |
| 07:47.39 | Daegalus | while WAR, just unloads the entire UI, and then loads it up. |
| 07:47.50 | smcn | heya |
| 07:47.58 | Daegalus | heya smcn |
| 07:49.06 | DarkTrooper | sounds much better to deal with |
| 07:49.26 | DarkTrooper | wow's reloadui was almost a go have a cuppa affir :) |
| 07:49.35 | vjeux | that's mostly the same as wow tbh |
| 07:49.37 | Daegalus | and reason I know this cause once i reloaded my UI, and i was still playing O.o i had auto-run on, and it reloaded my ui while the game was still running |
| 07:49.55 | Daegalus | like the graphics were updating and everything |
| 07:59.28 | Daegalus | omg, i hate how many people are rolling DoKs and plan to never heal ...... |
| 07:59.39 | DarkTrooper | i'm rolling DoK :) |
| 08:00.06 | DarkTrooper | but to be fair, there's just as many non-DoK's that expect them to be healbots |
| 08:01.02 | initram | well is most of the DoK heals not AOE? so that if they use the heals to say alive, they heal others too? |
| 08:01.13 | DarkTrooper | interesting, there's a function called Measure that seems to measure something in milliseconds, could that be useful to someone for a timing mod? |
| 08:01.27 | Daegalus | DarkTrooper: i have yet to see anyone expect a DoK to be a healbot |
| 08:01.48 | Daegalus | initram: not all, maybe 75%, they have single target heals and hots. |
| 08:01.56 | DarkTrooper | i've seen quite a few threads that have insinuated that 'all healing capable classes' are healbots |
| 08:02.14 | vjeux | yeah you can get the time in millisecond from the launch of the game |
| 08:02.16 | DarkTrooper | which is just as retarded as these tools that 'i'm not healing anyone ever' :) |
| 08:02.27 | vjeux | but can't get any kind of date or hour |
| 08:02.30 | Daegalus | then they all failed, if you actually followed the game, you would know all healers play differently and have different roles |
| 08:02.34 | Aiiane | you can get date |
| 08:02.36 | Aiiane | but not hour |
| 08:02.47 | Aiiane | or any kind of real-world specific time |
| 08:02.57 | Aiiane | you can get date because the guild calendar needs to know it |
| 08:03.02 | vjeux | did they added the date with the calendar thing ? |
| 08:03.12 | Aiiane | there's a GetTodaysDate() or something like that |
| 08:03.13 | vjeux | ok :p |
| 08:03.27 | DarkTrooper | i wish these filenames weren't hashed damnit, trying to find the one that deals with playerframes -_- |
| 08:04.10 | DarkTrooper | and Daegalus: i think we'll find many of these DoK's rerolling post rank 20-25 :) |
| 08:04.29 | rizzen | we'll find a lot of people rerolling |
| 08:05.00 | DarkTrooper | i think that DoK's might become the hunters tho, overpopulated, get a bad name, then all the tools reroll, and it still has a bad name |
| 08:05.02 | DarkTrooper | hopefully not tho |
| 08:05.07 | Daegalus | Darktrooper: use the one ont he Wiki? its really updated. And also i agree that a LOT of doks are gonna reroll past 25 when they see they cant put out DPS like a DPS class |
| 08:05.27 | Daegalus | there is a chance for that |
| 08:05.35 | DarkTrooper | there's one on the wiki? i must have missed it |
| 08:05.39 | Daegalus | hopefully the WAR community is more mature than WoWs and can tell the difference |
| 08:05.44 | rizzen | its an almost certainty that it will happen |
| 08:05.45 | Daegalus | ya, its where the API has been housed |
| 08:05.51 | Daegalus | its in the Topic of this channel |
| 08:06.06 | Daegalus | Well im making a Magus alt |
| 08:06.09 | Daegalus | an then a chosen one |
| 08:06.09 | Aiiane | ~warapi |
| 08:06.10 | purl | from memory, warapi is http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 08:06.19 | Daegalus | since Head Start is capped at level 20 |
| 08:06.20 | DarkTrooper | ya i've been looking through there, i'll have anotehr squiz |
| 08:06.24 | Daegalus | and is 4 days |
| 08:06.31 | Daegalus | i can get both my DoK and Magus to 20 in that time |
| 08:06.36 | Daegalus | maybe my chosen started too |
| 08:06.41 | DarkTrooper | i didn't think head start was capped? |
| 08:06.50 | Daegalus | from what ive seen. |
| 08:06.52 | Daegalus | it is |
| 08:07.13 | Daegalus | unless the EU site had a typo |
| 08:07.41 | DarkTrooper | seems abit silly imo, almost no one is going to be 40 in the 3 days, and if they are #1 they deserve it, lol and #2 there'll be no one else to fight with/againt |
| 08:08.19 | DarkTrooper | one of the reasons you have a headstart, is to stager the inital population so the server load/zones don't get bogged down |
| 08:09.02 | Daegalus | I dunno, maybe they seem to think peopl will be in T4 in 3 days |
| 08:09.05 | Daegalus | err 4 |
| 08:09.13 | Daegalus | since CE gets 4 day head start |
| 08:09.55 | DarkTrooper | yeah see, so much non-cosistent info, the NA and the EU dates that have been floating around don't mesh, the EU ones were confirmed for EU, but no one is saying anything about the NA |
| 08:10.19 | Daegalus | but MBJ said all dates related to Open Beta to Release are identical for NA and EU |
| 08:10.23 | Daegalus | so whatever it is for EU |
| 08:10.26 | Daegalus | will be for NA |
| 08:10.43 | DarkTrooper | which means it's 4 days, previously the NA ones were 3 |
| 08:11.10 | DarkTrooper | but it won't be really, because they'll go live when we're all sleeping, hahha |
| 08:11.16 | Aiiane | NA was always 4 for CE, 3 for SE, I thought? |
| 08:11.40 | DarkTrooper | hmm, maybe i was just reading people's opinions that looked authoritive, hope so |
| 08:11.56 | DarkTrooper | 4 days gives me more time to get 2 chars out of tier one, even a noob like me ;) |
| 08:12.14 | Daegalus | Aiiane: NA has no officially announced lengths |
| 08:12.18 | Daegalus | this is all based on EU |
| 08:12.24 | Daegalus | since they always release dates before NA |
| 08:13.09 | DarkTrooper | NA should be releasing dates at the same time or even first now imo, since they take AU into consideration, we're even further ahead of EU |
| 08:13.41 | DarkTrooper | btw, what timezone does mythic go by in the US anyone know? |
| 08:14.25 | Daegalus | Eastern |
| 08:14.29 | Daegalus | since they are located in Virginia |
| 08:14.56 | DarkTrooper | so GMT -5? |
| 08:14.58 | Daegalus | and they should be, but they arent. I think they are a bit busy working on the game, to release ontime, while EU just has to write up an article an dhit submit, while lounging in their offices |
| 08:15.03 | Daegalus | ya, GMT-5 |
| 08:15.10 | Daegalus | in non-dst |
| 08:15.12 | Daegalus | during dst |
| 08:15.14 | Daegalus | -4 |
| 08:16.24 | DarkTrooper | thanks, i'll set my desktop widget to that so i know what time things happen :) |
| 08:17.16 | Daegalus | hehe |
| 08:21.11 | Aiiane | guess I should sleep soon |
| 08:21.18 | Aiiane | g'night~ |
| 08:23.09 | vjeux | night |
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| 10:33.44 | Daegalus | wow, Liber Chaotica is mind boggling |
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| 13:05.35 | `Zypher[2] | blahhh |
| 13:08.48 | `Zypher[2] | whos here? |
| 13:09.37 | vjeux | me |
| 13:09.38 | initram | i am kinda... |
| 13:10.34 | `Zypher[2] | okie |
| 13:10.48 | `Zypher[2] | I would like to say |
| 13:10.51 | `Zypher[2] | fuck my dog. |
| 13:11.00 | `Zypher[2] | for he wakes me up at 6am |
| 13:11.19 | initram | i would hate to get up that early |
| 13:12.58 | `Zypher[2] | my eyes hurt |
| 13:13.04 | `Zypher[2] | because its so early. |
| 13:43.35 | tronned | stop whining ;) |
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| 14:24.11 | lordneon_ | early? |
| 14:24.16 | lordneon_ | its 3:24pm :p |
| 14:26.20 | Chryzo | it's 5:26pm you meant :) |
| 14:27.28 | initram | i am sure it is 16:26 :D |
| 14:27.46 | vjeux | agree with initram :p |
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| 14:56.29 | Freddy | allo] |
| 14:57.07 | vjeux | ytop |
| 14:57.09 | vjeux | yop |
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| 15:19.14 | pewpewarrows | ahh, back from camping :P |
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| 15:38.23 | Freddy | how was it pewpew? |
| 15:38.35 | pewpewarrows | not bad, mostly did mountain biking |
| 15:38.46 | Freddy | cool |
| 15:38.50 | pewpewarrows | was nice to get away from a computer screen for a couple of days |
| 15:38.55 | Freddy | mutiny! |
| 15:39.00 | pewpewarrows | blasphemy! |
| 15:39.10 | Freddy | we shall excorsie him |
| 15:39.12 | Freddy | spelling |
| 15:39.13 | Freddy | lloo |
| 15:46.02 | pewpewarrows | nice, just catching up on my feeds |
| 15:46.10 | pewpewarrows | the Mbj post from last friday |
| 15:46.16 | pewpewarrows | looks like they really fixed a lot |
| 15:51.07 | Freddy | o yea |
| 15:51.10 | Freddy | hi daeg |
| 15:52.44 | pewpewarrows | http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5477/graphicsnc4.jpg |
| 15:52.49 | pewpewarrows | draw distance slider = win |
| 16:03.45 | Freddy | hmm |
| 16:03.46 | Freddy | tihs elder? |
| 16:03.53 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 16:03.59 | Freddy | cool |
| 16:04.06 | Freddy | draw distance is how far you can see? |
| 16:04.16 | pewpewarrows | yeah, on the horizon |
| 16:04.21 | Freddy | sweet |
| 16:04.22 | Freddy | :p |
| 16:04.32 | Freddy | so OB might have higher graphics |
| 16:04.34 | Freddy | than CB did |
| 16:04.34 | Freddy | :p |
| 16:05.18 | pewpewarrows | well, it's 3-4 gigs larger |
| 16:05.28 | pewpewarrows | there has to be something in there ;) |
| 16:05.46 | Freddy | :D |
| 16:06.03 | Freddy | rofl@paul ownin hickman in this presentation |
| 16:06.11 | Freddy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbYyp8YT9mA&feature=related |
| 16:06.12 | Freddy | 4part |
| 16:08.35 | Freddy | lol@10,000 soda cans went into making this game |
| 16:08.36 | Freddy | :) |
| 16:10.17 | initram | and the average developer gained 4 pounds, or what was it :) |
| 16:10.58 | Freddy | lol aint seen that yet |
| 16:12.48 | Freddy | rofl |
| 16:13.00 | Freddy | 4,500,000 calories of donuts put into the product |
| 16:13.03 | Freddy | initram it was 8lbs |
| 16:13.03 | Freddy | xD |
| 16:13.28 | initram | damn |
| 16:14.22 | Freddy | lol this presentation is pro |
| 16:21.18 | Freddy | wow |
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| 16:21.25 | Freddy | it took them 34 times to make the greenskin starting area |
| 16:29.53 | initram | what i think it that most crazy is that they have used 2 million man-hours to make the game so far |
| 16:32.26 | `Zypher[2] | initram: I think its crazy how I can't play atm. |
| 16:32.45 | pewpewarrows | neither can most of us |
| 16:32.55 | initram | neither can i... have to wait for OB |
| 16:33.48 | Freddy | same initram |
| 16:33.49 | Freddy | :( |
| 16:33.58 | Freddy | so i've just been gettin lots of movies |
| 16:34.00 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: you awake? |
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| 16:36.58 | Freddy | hi |
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| 16:57.50 | `Zypher[2] | rawr rawr rawr |
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| 16:58.27 | sOLARiZ | good evening |
| 16:59.00 | lazarenth | huzzah |
| 17:00.30 | `Zypher | didn't we agree if someone was joining IRC then it was morning for them |
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| 17:00.37 | `Zypher | and it they were leaving it was evening/ |
| 17:01.09 | sOLARiZ | oh yeah it was yesterday the UGT Universal gfreeting Time ;p sorry for that ;p |
| 17:01.30 | `Zypher[2] | ~ugt |
| 17:01.34 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:02.06 | sOLARiZ | ok my fault. Give me a retry, Good Morning folks... :) |
| 17:02.41 | Aiiane | hehe. good morning all |
| 17:08.20 | `Zypher[2] | morning Aiiane |
| 17:08.29 | `Zypher[2] | I have a question for you kids |
| 17:08.36 | Aiiane | ? |
| 17:08.45 | `Zypher[2] | do you think memory manufacturers will start selling 6gb kits? |
| 17:08.49 | `Zypher[2] | 3x2gb |
| 17:08.56 | `Zypher[2] | for Tripple Channel on Nahalem? |
| 17:11.46 | Aiiane | I long since learned to not try to predict what hardware manufacturers will do |
| 17:14.51 | Freddy | zypher |
| 17:14.53 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I just wonder. |
| 17:14.54 | Freddy | 3 doesnt seem like a prett ynumber |
| 17:15.05 | `Zypher | X58 has six dimm slots |
| 17:15.08 | Freddy | 2x 4gb seems cuter |
| 17:15.10 | `Zypher | supporting tripple channel |
| 17:15.49 | Freddy | o well |
| 17:15.51 | Freddy | on way for us to be sure |
| 17:15.51 | Freddy | :P |
| 17:15.53 | Freddy | no |
| 17:16.34 | `Zypher | Freddy: well I have 1,000$ waiting for nahalem to launch |
| 17:16.41 | `Zypher | so I'm gunna get a new mobo |
| 17:16.43 | `Zypher | new memory |
| 17:16.47 | `Zypher | and a new processor |
| 17:16.58 | `Zypher | and I just want to utilize this tripple channel DDR3 |
| 17:16.59 | `Zypher | :P |
| 17:20.26 | Freddy | nice |
| 17:20.31 | Freddy | isn't that cominm out in 2009 though? |
| 17:20.49 | `Zypher[2] | late 2008 |
| 17:20.59 | Freddy | oh |
| 17:21.00 | Freddy | xD |
| 17:21.15 | sOLARiZ | yeah next plan for me to upgrade is beginning of 2009 |
| 17:21.45 | Freddy | lol mine's gon be next summer |
| 17:22.40 | sOLARiZ | Actualy I planned for this summer to buy 2 or 3 SSD's but hmm my bank account telling me something else ;p |
| 17:22.52 | Freddy | =) |
| 17:23.20 | sOLARiZ | my girlfried crashed the card 2 weeks ago this was the money for the upgrade ;p |
| 17:23.25 | sOLARiZ | card = car |
| 17:23.35 | Freddy | ofc' |
| 17:24.27 | sOLARiZ | but hey it was "cheap" just the bumper ⬠1.200 *sigh* |
| 17:26.50 | pewpewarrows | this is why I just bike everywhere |
| 17:27.23 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: I just don't do stupid things when driving. |
| 17:28.08 | sOLARiZ | hey it wasn't me :) |
| 17:28.24 | `Zypher[2] | sOLARiZ: this is true. |
| 17:28.41 | pewpewarrows | bleh, I'm too lazy to pay for gas |
| 17:29.05 | pewpewarrows | oh, nice, which one? |
| 17:29.06 | sOLARiZ | I should make a deal with my gf "As long as you can't pay for it - don't touch it" ^^ |
| 17:29.12 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: civic |
| 17:29.19 | pewpewarrows | awesome |
| 17:29.29 | `Zypher[2] | that it is. |
| 17:29.35 | `Zypher[2] | it still costs me 40$ to fill up |
| 17:29.40 | `Zypher[2] | but it lasts me a good week and a half |
| 17:29.47 | pewpewarrows | nice |
| 17:30.03 | pewpewarrows | god my semester's schedule is so hilariously f'ed up |
| 17:30.13 | pewpewarrows | monday and wed my first class is at 2:30pm |
| 17:30.26 | pewpewarrows | tue, thurs, and fri first class is at 8 am |
| 17:30.34 | pewpewarrows | but friday I'm free after 9am |
| 17:31.15 | `Zypher[2] | rofl |
| 17:31.21 | `Zypher[2] | that sounds funziez |
| 17:31.34 | `Zypher[2] | oh noes theres a new girl on the forums |
| 17:31.37 | sOLARiZ | Zypher: Yea fuel cost is the hell right now. In Germany you currently pay 1.50 ⬠a liter which is USD $2.20 |
| 17:31.40 | `Zypher[2] | and its probably a guy |
| 17:31.56 | `Zypher[2] | sOLARiZ: um try 4$ a gallon. |
| 17:32.04 | `Zypher[2] | fucking bush. |
| 17:32.10 | pewpewarrows | show me where in the us it's 2.20 lol |
| 17:32.12 | `Zypher[2] | (rofl) no pun intended. |
| 17:32.57 | `Zypher[2] | so what does everyone think about |
| 17:32.59 | `Zypher[2] | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1299042&postcount=8 |
| 17:33.24 | sOLARiZ | 4$ a gallon is cheap as far as I know a gallion is 0.26 liters so 2.20 a liter = 2.20 *4 = $8.8 a Gallon ... wahrg |
| 17:34.16 | sOLARiZ | enough mopney talk :) conclusion... I have to fix my bike |
| 17:34.16 | `Zypher[2] | 1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liter |
| 17:34.25 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 17:35.07 | sOLARiZ | you pay 4$ a gallon ? I change the country |
| 17:35.39 | sOLARiZ | $4 / 3.78 = 1.05$ a liter that below of half the cost from what I have to pay daily... fuck |
| 17:35.53 | sOLARiZ | I defenitly will fix my bike ;p |
| 17:35.55 | pewpewarrows | `Zypher, that means that they pay 8.27926337 per gallon |
| 17:35.57 | pewpewarrows | us dollars |
| 17:37.03 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: yes |
| 17:37.09 | `Zypher[2] | but I just wanted to clarify |
| 17:37.42 | `Zypher[2] | but it is still bush's fault. |
| 17:37.42 | pewpewarrows | gotcha |
| 17:37.55 | pewpewarrows | ;) |
| 17:39.12 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: why are people still saying stupid shit about GSS |
| 17:39.50 | Aiiane | because people are stupid |
| 17:39.57 | pewpewarrows | GSS? |
| 17:40.17 | Aiiane | Gork Sez Stop |
| 17:40.21 | pewpewarrows | oh |
| 17:40.52 | `Zypher[2] | ~stupid people |
| 17:40.55 | purl | it has been said that stupid people is <snadge> so yeah.. give stupid people a break.. its theh responsibility of those who arn't stupid, to set the standards and attempt to educate or change society for the better.. instead of sitting back and calling them all morons <greycat> snadge: shut up. |
| 17:41.11 | `Zypher[2] | damn |
| 17:41.15 | `Zypher[2] | thats not what I wanted. |
| 17:41.16 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 17:46.46 | Belatuca1ros | o.O |
| 17:46.59 | `Zypher[2] | ok I've decided for sure |
| 17:47.06 | `Zypher[2] | does anyone need an asshat for their guild? |
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| 18:04.45 | `Zypher[2] | no one needs an asshat?! |
| 18:05.11 | `Zypher[2] | http://hockeyshots.net/gallery/laborday2008/midget18aa/tri_valley_blue_devils/game3/_MG_1870.JPG |
| 18:13.40 | Aiiane | is that you? |
| 18:13.55 | Aiiane | `Zypher? |
| 18:14.38 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: yes |
| 18:15.52 | Aiiane | afk lunch |
| 18:20.00 | lazarenth | i am building my first computer this week :X i am only worried about 2 things: breaking something and setting everything up after its all connected >_> |
| 18:20.14 | lazarenth | by breaking i mean frying |
| 18:20.17 | lazarenth | etc |
| 18:20.19 | lazarenth | <_< |
| 18:20.52 | sOLARiZ | ;p I only scare of a windows installation from scratch with all my tools this takes days ;p |
| 18:20.54 | pewpewarrows | protip: static electricity = bad |
| 18:22.08 | `Zypher | lazarenth: yes make sure you aren't staticly charged. |
| 18:22.20 | `Zypher | aka keep yourself grounded if possible |
| 18:26.17 | lazarenth | i bought an antistatic wrist band so i sholuld eb good on that |
| 18:26.52 | pewpewarrows | otherwise the only other part that I see people slip up on is to make sure that you properly mount the mobo |
| 18:27.08 | pewpewarrows | there will be these, I don't know what to call them |
| 18:27.09 | pewpewarrows | "pegs" |
| 18:27.18 | pewpewarrows | that lift the mobo off the physical case |
| 18:27.20 | `Zypher[2] | screw stands |
| 18:27.32 | pewpewarrows | yeah, make sure you do that |
| 18:27.36 | `Zypher[2] | you screw them into the motherboard tray |
| 18:27.36 | lazarenth | yeah i saw that part in a guide i found |
| 18:27.53 | `Zypher | http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5477/graphicsnc4.jpg |
| 18:27.58 | `Zypher | happy in the pants this makes me. |
| 18:28.03 | pewpewarrows | otherwise you'll have a nice light show the first time you hit the power button, but kiss the board goodbye lol |
| 18:28.10 | lazarenth | im more nervous about setting everything up right software wise |
| 18:28.17 | pewpewarrows | me too `Zypher ;) |
| 18:28.29 | pewpewarrows | software is the easiest part |
| 18:28.36 | pewpewarrows | what are you worried about specifically? |
| 18:28.56 | lazarenth | i dunno, like drivers and everything. also I have never actualy installed windows |
| 18:29.39 | lazarenth | not really worried about getting em just makign sure everything is fine lol |
| 18:29.46 | pewpewarrows | hehe |
| 18:29.49 | Freddy | xD |
| 18:29.54 | pewpewarrows | so, funny story |
| 18:30.11 | pewpewarrows | after the whole NY governor prostitute scandal like two years ago |
| 18:30.37 | `Zypher[2] | you got laid? |
| 18:30.47 | Freddy | rofl |
| 18:30.48 | pewpewarrows | my friends and I were joking around about which female governor would be the most likely candidate to seduce and cause a scandal |
| 18:31.05 | pewpewarrows | and we ended up picking Sarah Palin of alaska |
| 18:31.13 | `Zypher[2] | haha |
| 18:31.15 | Freddy | rofll |
| 18:31.23 | Freddy | politics@imba |
| 18:31.23 | pewpewarrows | and now she's the GOP VP candidate |
| 18:31.40 | pewpewarrows | so had we tried to go through with that and succeeded |
| 18:31.44 | pewpewarrows | epic lulz would have ensued |
| 18:32.46 | rizzen | politicians all need to be shot |
| 18:32.55 | Freddy | meh |
| 18:33.20 | Freddy | that would just be strange |
| 18:33.22 | lazarenth | i know i really should click into the UI forum when i see the newest post is in a topic titled "Mods already going too far" -_- |
| 18:33.28 | Freddy | yea |
| 18:33.28 | lazarenth | really should not* |
| 18:33.36 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 18:33.37 | Freddy | it's about that gork sez stop |
| 18:33.38 | Freddy | addon |
| 18:33.40 | pewpewarrows | what mod are they referencing |
| 18:33.41 | pewpewarrows | oh |
| 18:33.43 | pewpewarrows | LOL |
| 18:33.46 | pewpewarrows | god dammit |
| 18:34.03 | lazarenth | ?? another gork sez stop argument? didnt we just ave a topic about that like 3 days ago? |
| 18:34.10 | lazarenth | the gork sez stop caller mod |
| 18:34.20 | Freddy | yea |
| 18:34.21 | Freddy | we did |
| 18:34.25 | Freddy | and now there'sa new topic about it |
| 18:34.35 | Freddy | and it's just retarded how they say that's gion to far |
| 18:34.52 | `Zypher[2] | ~stupid people |
| 18:34.56 | purl | i heard stupid people is <snadge> so yeah.. give stupid people a break.. its theh responsibility of those who arn't stupid, to set the standards and attempt to educate or change society for the better.. instead of sitting back and calling them all morons <greycat> snadge: shut up. |
| 18:35.04 | Freddy | it's basically just showing the debuff |
| 18:35.08 | Freddy | but making it bigger |
| 18:35.08 | Freddy | xD |
| 18:35.36 | pewpewarrows | is enlarging debuff icons overpowered? no |
| 18:35.50 | Freddy | oh it is! |
| 18:35.57 | pewpewarrows | is making debuff icons into just the text name imba? no |
| 18:36.08 | Freddy | You will recieve a warning message |
| 18:36.09 | Freddy | ... |
| 18:36.09 | pewpewarrows | is moving the text name to the center of the screen unfair? no |
| 18:36.17 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:36.20 | Freddy | all the addond oes is play a sound |
| 18:36.24 | Freddy | and they say that's too far |
| 18:36.25 | Freddy | imba |
| 18:36.42 | Freddy | nvm, it flahes the screen too |
| 18:36.42 | Freddy | ogod! |
| 18:36.51 | pewpewarrows | oh so for someone visually impaired that can't make out the tiny ass icons |
| 18:36.58 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:36.58 | lazarenth | this guy says gork sez stop should pretty much be auto-kill lol http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1298489&postcount=15 |
| 18:37.09 | pewpewarrows | they don't want to allow them to have the same advantage as everyone else |
| 18:37.12 | pewpewarrows | I see how it is |
| 18:37.12 | Freddy | LOL |
| 18:37.25 | Freddy | i never look at my debuffs |
| 18:37.31 | Freddy | just look at colors |
| 18:37.33 | Freddy | xDE |
| 18:38.19 | Freddy | imo a spell like that should have an effect on your character anyway |
| 18:38.26 | Freddy | like spikes at your legs or soemthin |
| 18:39.28 | lazarenth | the topic has already devolved to "Well my opinion is that the spell should do this" and "guys they arleady had this argument the other day" |
| 18:39.59 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:39.59 | lazarenth | of course noone listens to the latter |
| 18:40.10 | pewpewarrows | replyed |
| 18:40.14 | pewpewarrows | *replied |
| 18:41.22 | pewpewarrows | also, I don't think those people are going to be too happy when I release a library of every character on every server's career for any mod to use |
| 18:41.30 | pewpewarrows | parsed from the realm war site :P |
| 18:41.34 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:41.38 | Freddy | if it's online |
| 18:41.40 | Freddy | it's not secure |
| 18:41.41 | Freddy | get over it |
| 18:42.16 | pewpewarrows | I'm empowering the people who don't have dual monitors to instantly run a query for their opponent's name and career on their other screen |
| 18:42.23 | Freddy | rofl |
| 18:42.25 | Freddy | oh that's nice |
| 18:42.28 | pewpewarrows | that's my alibi |
| 18:42.30 | Freddy | and you could do @(server)? |
| 18:42.33 | lazarenth | haha pewpew i don't think mythic would be all too happy about it |
| 18:42.41 | Freddy | why's that laz? |
| 18:42.45 | lazarenth | i dunno |
| 18:42.46 | Freddy | they already are giving you means to find it |
| 18:42.48 | Freddy | it's thjeir site |
| 18:42.48 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:42.55 | Freddy | he's just putting it in the game |
| 18:43.02 | lazarenth | i mean they didnt put it in the game for a reason maybe? |
| 18:43.04 | pewpewarrows | they don't want it? take down realm war |
| 18:43.10 | lazarenth | haha i guess thats true |
| 18:43.12 | Freddy | does anyone know how the realm war site will update? |
| 18:43.22 | Freddy | is it like every X mins it searches for changes or is it when you log off? |
| 18:43.27 | pewpewarrows | I'm assuming like the wow armory |
| 18:43.33 | Freddy | so on log of? |
| 18:43.34 | Freddy | off |
| 18:43.42 | pewpewarrows | yeah I guess so |
| 18:43.46 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:43.48 | Freddy | that's no fun |
| 18:43.48 | Freddy | :p |
| 18:43.56 | pewpewarrows | never log off! |
| 18:43.58 | Freddy | ! |
| 18:44.02 | Freddy | i'll be like a ghost! |
| 18:44.48 | Freddy | wow |
| 18:44.57 | Freddy | asians make up more than 50% of the WoW population |
| 18:44.58 | Freddy | o.O |
| 18:45.02 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 18:45.04 | Freddy | that's insane |
| 18:45.05 | Freddy | rofl |
| 18:45.12 | Freddy | it can't be that good ofa business |
| 18:45.15 | Freddy | gold selling that is |
| 18:45.16 | pewpewarrows | only about 4-5 million subs are US / Oceanic / EU |
| 18:45.33 | Freddy | yea |
| 18:45.38 | Freddy | 2mil us and 2.5mil eu |
| 18:45.38 | Freddy | o.O |
| 18:45.58 | pewpewarrows | active and non-duplicate? I'd bring it down to 3-3.5 mil |
| 18:46.11 | Freddy | yea prob |
| 18:46.21 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: you know you can hide yourself from inspection right? |
| 18:46.32 | pewpewarrows | yeah from in-game inspection |
| 18:46.34 | Freddy | lol] |
| 18:46.35 | `Zypher[2] | since you can do that I would assume you can prevent it from pushing your data |
| 18:46.42 | Freddy | the realm war will alwaqys be watching! |
| 18:46.44 | Freddy | he's like big brother |
| 18:46.56 | Belatuca1ros | DAOC saved your character roughly every 5 minutes, just fyi |
| 18:47.00 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:47.02 | Freddy | ^that's what i wanted to know |
| 18:47.03 | Freddy | ty |
| 18:47.10 | pewpewarrows | well, that might be true for armor/spec `Zypher |
| 18:47.20 | pewpewarrows | but just name to career is all I need |
| 18:47.30 | pewpewarrows | I guess I could expand it to spec later on |
| 18:47.35 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:47.45 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: I don't want specs |
| 18:47.50 | `Zypher[2] | and I don't think realm war does specs |
| 18:48.00 | pewpewarrows | then nvm |
| 18:48.09 | Freddy | i'm happy with a color coded name |
| 18:48.09 | Freddy | :p |
| 18:49.05 | `Zypher[2] | http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterInfo.war?id=51164&server=122 |
| 18:49.09 | `Zypher[2] | there is no specy spec |
| 18:49.13 | pewpewarrows | I can definitely grab renown rank |
| 18:50.03 | pewpewarrows | and parsing this is cake |
| 18:50.18 | Freddy | :( can't log on to anything |
| 18:50.19 | Freddy | lol |
| 18:50.36 | Freddy | o wait |
| 18:50.37 | Freddy | i can |
| 18:50.40 | Freddy | sweet! |
| 18:51.08 | pewpewarrows | <div class="title">Sorcerer | Warpstone</div> |
| 18:51.14 | pewpewarrows | I'll write the regex right now |
| 18:53.07 | Freddy | <div class="progress-desc">Current Experience: 73824/561600 (13%)</div> |
| 18:53.11 | Freddy | you can get their rank and exp |
| 18:53.11 | Freddy | o.O |
| 18:54.40 | Freddy | it would be really easy to parse this |
| 18:54.41 | Freddy | wow |
| 18:55.04 | Aiiane | http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterInfo.war?id=10205&server=122 <-- my AM |
| 18:55.20 | Freddy | ofc aiiane has to brag |
| 18:55.27 | Freddy | ;p jk |
| 18:55.36 | Freddy | is that 5 trophy sltos? |
| 18:55.37 | Freddy | slots |
| 18:55.39 | Freddy | i thought we had 5 |
| 18:55.40 | Freddy | 4 |
| 18:55.43 | Freddy | 4** |
| 18:55.47 | Belatuca1ros | 200 |
| 18:56.15 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: awww how cute a prissy little archmage |
| 18:56.30 | Aiiane | Shush, Master Bates. |
| 18:56.51 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: took you long enough. |
| 18:56.55 | Freddy | roflwut |
| 18:56.58 | Aiiane | I was a lunch, sheesh |
| 18:57.03 | `Zypher[2] | my last name is bates |
| 18:57.06 | Freddy | Aii and her 0% renown exp |
| 18:57.10 | Freddy | lol really |
| 18:57.10 | Freddy | wow |
| 18:57.13 | Aiiane | Freddy: look @ the level |
| 18:57.18 | Freddy | i know |
| 18:57.21 | Freddy | 0% is just pro |
| 18:57.22 | Freddy | :) |
| 18:57.48 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: your a mean mean meany. |
| 18:59.18 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 18:59.21 | Aiiane | http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterLeaderboards.war?server=122&leaderboardType=1&interval=1&sortId=0&sortType=0 is sort of borked |
| 19:00.17 | `Zypher[2] | yar |
| 19:00.22 | Freddy | hmm |
| 19:00.32 | Freddy | lol |
| 19:00.34 | Freddy | good call |
| 19:00.43 | pewpewarrows | why is that? |
| 19:00.58 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: because you touch yourself at night! |
| 19:01.02 | Freddy | well if she has renown rank 30 |
| 19:01.07 | Freddy | those ppl shouldn't be ahead of her |
| 19:01.07 | Freddy | :o |
| 19:01.10 | pewpewarrows | oh |
| 19:01.11 | pewpewarrows | right |
| 19:01.29 | Freddy | lol |
| 19:02.16 | `Zypher[2] | slow pewpewarrows is slow :P |
| 19:02.21 | Freddy | lol |
| 19:02.39 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: has made me hungry |
| 19:02.43 | pewpewarrows | me too |
| 19:02.48 | pewpewarrows | I'm trying to decide what to eat |
| 19:02.49 | `Zypher[2] | I will be back once I'm done being a fatty. |
| 19:03.13 | `Zypher[2] | also |
| 19:03.20 | `Zypher[2] | my bruise has started to turn green |
| 19:03.24 | `Zypher[2] | just to let you know. |
| 19:03.38 | pewpewarrows | 4.1 footage from PAX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDDFEh3OSM&feature=related |
| 19:03.47 | Freddy | 4.1 is out? |
| 19:03.49 | pewpewarrows | shitty cam, yes |
| 19:04.00 | pewpewarrows | but you can see the huge improvements already |
| 19:04.57 | pewpewarrows | anyone know whether they'll allow you to have everyone's shadows be full quality? |
| 19:05.04 | pewpewarrows | not just tiny blobs underneath |
| 19:05.45 | Freddy | spells look much better |
| 19:05.50 | Freddy | i never made it to a high lvl though |
| 19:05.51 | Freddy | but still :p |
| 19:08.55 | Freddy | my friend just asked what a rick roll is |
| 19:08.56 | Freddy | omg |
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| 19:19.20 | Aiiane | Freddy: tell him that someone made a podcast to explain it |
| 19:19.23 | Aiiane | and then rickroll him |
| 19:20.36 | rizzen | there are still people that havent been rickrolled? |
| 19:22.36 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: I've never once been rickrolled. |
| 19:22.37 | `Zypher[2] | eve.r |
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| 19:23.38 | Freddy | lo |
| 19:24.16 | rizzen | it will happen one day |
| 19:24.19 | rizzen | its inevitable |
| 19:29.10 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: nope. |
| 19:29.25 | `Zypher[2] | for I do not click tinyurls |
| 19:29.54 | rizzen | Update 3:26 PM EDT - Servers are not up at this time. No ETA for further updates. |
| 19:29.57 | rizzen | ghsjkalghfgaf |
| 19:30.02 | rizzen | no beta today it seems |
| 19:30.22 | Freddy | lol |
| 19:30.33 | Freddy | 2 weeks till launch |
| 19:30.35 | Freddy | =) |
| 19:31.14 | rizzen | too long |
| 19:31.14 | `Zypher[2] | I for one need access to teh beta forumds |
| 19:31.17 | `Zypher[2] | but was denied |
| 19:31.17 | `Zypher[2] | ! |
| 19:31.21 | rizzen | and we have a patch to test still |
| 19:32.47 | Freddy | hola daeg |
| 20:18.35 | Belatuca1ros | x |
| 20:23.30 | Aiiane | Belatuca1ros: I want to smack some of the people on the UI board |
| 20:23.40 | Aiiane | "addons are bad because people will make radar" /facepalm |
| 20:23.48 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: get used to it. |
| 20:24.00 | Aiiane | oh, I know |
| 20:24.07 | Aiiane | doesn't mean I don't still want to smack them |
| 20:24.31 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: honestly the sooner you ignore it the happier you will be. |
| 20:24.39 | `Zypher[2] | like me! |
| 20:28.39 | Aiiane | I'm not unhappy |
| 20:28.42 | Aiiane | I just want to smack them |
| 20:28.52 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 20:29.01 | `Zypher[2] | we should get you a nurf bat |
| 20:29.08 | `Zypher[2] | that you can swat people with |
| 20:29.16 | `Zypher[2] | whenever they make stupid statements |
| 20:35.41 | rizzen | its a well known fact that whoever invents the object that allows people to punch others through the internet will be absolutely rich |
| 20:38.42 | Freddy | we all know that |
| 20:38.43 | Freddy | lol |
| 20:39.34 | rizzen | hmmm |
| 20:39.41 | rizzen | i guess i should go buy my textbooks |
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| 20:52.38 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: I don't want to either so don't worry. |
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| 21:02.39 | Aiiane | WHA atm actually reminds me of a quote someone had in their sig on another forum I frequented a lot |
| 21:02.51 | Aiiane | "Don't argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." |
| 21:04.10 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: Arguements on the internet are like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard. |
| 21:08.44 | rizzen | and i return! |
| 21:08.48 | rizzen | 500$ cheaper |
| 21:11.02 | Aiiane | oh? |
| 21:11.04 | rizzen | why does an AI textbook have to be $130 |
| 21:11.07 | Aiiane | ah, textbooks |
| 21:11.14 | Aiiane | because so few people actually use it rizzen |
| 21:11.20 | rizzen | bastard faculty |
| 21:11.20 | Aiiane | thus, it has to be expensive to turn a profit |
| 21:11.32 | rizzen | its a required text |
| 21:11.36 | rizzen | so people will have to buy it anyway |
| 21:11.45 | Aiiane | this is why things like http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm are awesome |
| 21:12.36 | rizzen | cant say i've used it yet, thought about it though |
| 21:12.47 | Aiiane | and I wish more schools would go to making course materials electronic |
| 21:12.54 | Aiiane | instead of requiring students to buy textbooks |
| 21:13.31 | rizzen | all of the 100 level courses here can be taken online or through lectures |
| 21:13.38 | rizzen | past that, we gotta bust out the cash |
| 21:15.46 | `Zypher[2] | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Roadrunner |
| 21:15.56 | `Zypher[2] | my mind just exploded. |
| 21:18.55 | Aiiane | your head asplode? |
| 21:19.14 | `Zypher[2] | yes |
| 21:19.34 | rizzen | its strange how you can continue typing |
| 21:19.45 | `Zypher[2] | I want to compile a kernel on that thing so I can know my computer will never ever be that crazy ever. |
| 21:20.03 | `Zypher[2] | my fingers cn type on their own. |
| 21:20.09 | `Zypher[2] | they arent connected to my head. |
| 21:20.18 | rizzen | not as a rule, no |
| 21:20.47 | rizzen | as an excellent sidenote |
| 21:21.12 | rizzen | dragon age toolset is apparently going to be made of awesomesauce and win |
| 21:21.29 | `Zypher[2] | dragon age toolset? |
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| 21:22.20 | rizzen | oh yes |
| 21:22.29 | rizzen | new bioware rpg yes? |
| 21:22.47 | `Zypher[2] | oh |
| 21:22.48 | `Zypher[2] | nice |
| 21:22.51 | `Zypher[2] | must buy |
| 21:22.59 | `Zypher[2] | will it be better then The Witcher? |
| 21:23.09 | rizzen | once that game hits, im basically dropping everything else im playing |
| 21:23.24 | rizzen | probably? |
| 21:23.26 | rizzen | i dont know |
| 21:23.32 | rizzen | i havent played the witcher all the way through |
| 21:23.38 | `Zypher[2] | boo hissssssss |
| 21:23.41 | rizzen | but its bioware |
| 21:23.47 | `Zypher[2] | yah |
| 21:23.53 | `Zypher[2] | I hope Kotor is crazy |
| 21:23.55 | rizzen | and impressions from pax this year say it looks to play a lot like baldur's gate did |
| 21:23.58 | `Zypher[2] | because I love starwars. |
| 21:24.15 | rizzen | kotor mmo shall be epic |
| 21:24.20 | `Zypher[2] | better |
| 21:24.29 | rizzen | oh it will |
| 21:24.35 | `Zypher[2] | I love the older storylines |
| 21:24.41 | `Zypher[2] | Darth Bane series is crazy |
| 21:24.42 | `Zypher[2] | :P |
| 21:24.46 | rizzen | bioware is the only company i will place 100% of my trust in to make shit good |
| 21:25.05 | `Zypher[2] | yeh |
| 21:27.23 | rizzen | oh shit |
| 21:27.38 | rizzen | found some lovely screens of war with forced af and aa |
| 21:27.52 | rizzen | this game scales good |
| 21:27.53 | `Zypher[2] | oh hai |
| 21:27.57 | `Zypher[2] | I can do that. |
| 21:28.23 | rizzen | only works with nvidia cards so far it seems |
| 21:28.36 | rizzen | but there is no slider for aa or af in the new graphics details |
| 21:28.36 | `Zypher[2] | rizzen: yes |
| 21:28.39 | rizzen | so :x |
| 21:28.45 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 21:28.50 | `Zypher[2] | I force |
| 21:28.57 | `Zypher[2] | SLI 32QxC |
| 21:29.00 | `Zypher[2] | looks amazing :P |
| 21:29.18 | `Zypher[2] | SLI 32xQ |
| 21:29.20 | rizzen | lucky you |
| 21:29.22 | `Zypher[2] | I got that wrong :P |
| 21:29.30 | rizzen | im rocking the 7900 gs soloooooo |
| 21:29.37 | `Zypher[2] | oh nice |
| 21:29.42 | `Zypher[2] | I had two of those a while back |
| 21:29.44 | `Zypher[2] | you want another? |
| 21:31.06 | rizzen | if it is free and you pay for shipping, i'd love one |
| 21:31.18 | rizzen | otherwise, no, i'll be fine |
| 21:31.41 | rizzen | i need to do some upgrades for my pc this year anyways |
| 21:31.56 | `Zypher[2] | well |
| 21:32.01 | `Zypher[2] | I'd give it to you for free |
| 21:32.06 | `Zypher[2] | but I don't want to pay for shipping |
| 21:32.07 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 21:32.20 | `Zypher[2] | but I have two 7900GS sitting here |
| 21:32.22 | `Zypher[2] | doing nothing |
| 21:32.44 | rizzen | ebay it |
| 21:33.18 | `Zypher[2] | I don't trust anything related to paypal |
| 21:36.15 | *** join/#waruidev rizzen (i=foo@207-47-255-11.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) |
| 21:51.46 | rizzen | i love di.fm |
| 21:53.56 | Aiiane | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1301974&postcount=66 <-- epic fail |
| 21:54.57 | pewpewarrows | ... |
| 21:56.00 | rizzen | so, should we draw straws to see who will rip him a new one? |
| 21:56.16 | pewpewarrows | I'm carefully crafting a response |
| 21:56.33 | pewpewarrows | This will be a work of art |
| 21:56.37 | pewpewarrows | no normal response will do |
| 21:57.58 | Freddy | o shit |
| 21:58.01 | Freddy | he dissed my addon |
| 21:58.28 | `Zypher | Freddy: this makes me laugh |
| 21:58.48 | sOLARiZ | :) |
| 21:58.50 | pewpewarrows | oh noes! autoloot! |
| 21:58.58 | pewpewarrows | doesn't quite do it justice |
| 21:59.19 | Freddy | lol |
| 21:59.28 | Freddy | i love how he dissed autoloot |
| 21:59.33 | Freddy | all that addon does is what the ctrl button does |
| 21:59.59 | sOLARiZ | Your must be the devils son ! evil to the bones! ;p shame on you |
| 22:00.08 | pewpewarrows | but, it's one step away from botting! |
| 22:00.12 | Freddy | LOL |
| 22:00.13 | pewpewarrows | DON'T YOU SEE |
| 22:00.17 | Freddy | oh now isee |
| 22:00.20 | Freddy | thanks for clearing that up |
| 22:00.26 | sOLARiZ | :o |
| 22:00.29 | Freddy | xD |
| 22:00.31 | sOLARiZ | I like it |
| 22:00.56 | rizzen | i think freddy is actually a bot making botting mods |
| 22:01.14 | *** join/#waruidev DarkTrooper (i=Rukia@ppp118-208-7-225.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) |
| 22:01.20 | Freddy | he caught me |
| 22:01.24 | sOLARiZ | Actualy isn't he a bot coded by other bots to improve better bot code coding ? |
| 22:01.31 | Freddy | lol wut |
| 22:01.43 | sOLARiZ | must bre |
| 22:01.46 | Freddy | does not compute, please reword |
| 22:02.30 | sOLARiZ | to late *g* no sense... *brrzzz* have to... sleeeppp... bot off now. |
| 22:03.12 | sOLARiZ | No seriously as long as there is the posibility to code addons there always some guys who critism you on that |
| 22:03.34 | Freddy | lol |
| 22:03.34 | Freddy | sotrue |
| 22:03.37 | sOLARiZ | even in AoC, which quite have nerly no possibility for modding, people told that addons are evil |
| 22:04.34 | sOLARiZ | I wrote a tool which was just a win tool like a TOC patcher in wow and people blamed me keylogger and what else... I don't care. |
| 22:05.05 | rizzen | i used aesthetic mods in aoc |
| 22:05.10 | rizzen | and that startup thing |
| 22:05.19 | Freddy | i was smart and didn't get aoc |
| 22:05.20 | Freddy | :p |
| 22:05.27 | rizzen | you may think so |
| 22:05.35 | Freddy | you're right |
| 22:05.35 | rizzen | but the combat system there was interesting enough |
| 22:05.37 | Freddy | that game was godlike |
| 22:05.39 | rizzen | melee wise at least |
| 22:05.47 | Freddy | lol i honestly didn't like that kinda system |
| 22:05.50 | Freddy | click for every swing |
| 22:05.51 | Freddy | doesn't seem fun |
| 22:06.01 | rizzen | im not going to defend the horrible funcom on aoc |
| 22:06.08 | sOLARiZ | Aoc had really great chances to get my fav. game of the year title but the simply made tooooo many mistakes |
| 22:06.09 | rizzen | the game had potential, but funcom blew it |
| 22:06.15 | Freddy | (: |
| 22:06.28 | sOLARiZ | rizzen: exactly |
| 22:06.29 | rizzen | it needed at least another 6months of beta time and for the devs to listen to feedback |
| 22:06.42 | Freddy | =) |
| 22:06.47 | rizzen | but alas |
| 22:06.49 | rizzen | here we are |
| 22:06.52 | rizzen | waiting for war |
| 22:06.54 | Freddy | weren't they running out of funds? |
| 22:06.56 | sOLARiZ | I played a necro for 6 weeks.. hell... the balancing in the War CB was more stable then the actual aoc game ;p |
| 22:08.07 | DarkTrooper | ./facepalm *another* gork sez stop 'mods are evil' thread |
| 22:08.38 | sOLARiZ | ok, past midnight already, have to leave. Godd night Ãhmm ugt conform: Good morning ;p |
| 22:08.42 | DarkTrooper | oh yeah, morning all :) |
| 22:08.44 | Freddy | rofl another one darktrooper? |
| 22:08.47 | Freddy | g'morn |
| 22:08.52 | Freddy | i wish it was mornin here |
| 22:08.52 | Freddy | lol |
| 22:09.05 | `Zypher | ~ugt |
| 22:09.09 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 22:09.11 | sOLARiZ | 00:07 is very early morning so it fits ;) bb |
| 22:09.11 | `Zypher | Learn it DarkTrooper |
| 22:09.12 | Freddy | it's morning for him |
| 22:09.12 | DarkTrooper | well 'another' one for me, was created about 9 hours ago so probalby old for yous :) |
| 22:09.23 | Freddy | yea |
| 22:10.04 | rizzen | yeah sOLARiZ, i played an assassin through what little beta time i had and on release til end of july |
| 22:10.09 | rizzen | it was good time /s |
| 22:10.50 | rizzen | that lovely attack speed bug, the gemmed gear overpowering everything, broken skill trees, feats that don't do a damn thing... |
| 22:10.55 | rizzen | excellent times indeed |
| 22:11.00 | Freddy | lol |
| 22:11.26 | pewpewarrows | oh aoc |
| 22:11.31 | pewpewarrows | don't even get me started |
| 22:11.32 | Freddy | LOl |
| 22:11.44 | Freddy | he just knows it's aoc |
| 22:11.45 | Freddy | right away |
| 22:11.46 | Freddy | ;P |
| 22:11.57 | rizzen | hey now, it was fun! |
| 22:11.59 | rizzen | ... |
| 22:12.05 | Freddy | =) |
| 22:12.10 | pewpewarrows | levels 1-20 were awesome |
| 22:12.14 | rizzen | i was only happy for that first day after my guild got a city |
| 22:12.22 | pewpewarrows | very fun 10 hours of gameplay |
| 22:12.30 | rizzen | tortage was fun yeah |
| 22:12.35 | rizzen | the 7th time through it however |
| 22:12.38 | rizzen | it got a little boring |
| 22:12.41 | Freddy | lol |
| 22:13.02 | rizzen | i was on goonwhisper anyways |
| 22:13.14 | rizzen | so no matter where you went, plenty of pvp |
| 22:13.23 | pewpewarrows | me too! |
| 22:13.59 | rizzen | yeah, then it went to hell after a month |
| 22:14.12 | rizzen | no fixes for anything that needed it asap |
| 22:14.23 | rizzen | all the pvp in gankshetta was horrible |
| 22:16.30 | Belatuca1ros | aoc? |
| 22:16.38 | pewpewarrows | Aiiane, http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1302527&postcount=76 |
| 22:16.43 | pewpewarrows | I lol'ed |
| 22:16.57 | rizzen | do i want to click that? |
| 22:17.02 | rizzen | or will i get brain damage from reading the psot |
| 22:17.06 | rizzen | psot? post |
| 22:17.13 | `Zypher | my head is now going to implode. |
| 22:17.15 | `Zypher | 10 |
| 22:17.16 | `Zypher | 9 |
| 22:17.17 | `Zypher | 8 |
| 22:17.18 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 22:17.19 | `Zypher | 7 |
| 22:17.24 | `Zypher | *boom* |
| 22:17.37 | rizzen | must of had some crossed wires |
| 22:17.42 | rizzen | usually explosions happen on zero |
| 22:18.22 | DarkTrooper | so, i never saw gork says stop in action, but am i right in thinking it leavs a debuff icon for the player affected? |
| 22:18.31 | Aiiane | My response was just a url |
| 22:18.32 | Aiiane | namely |
| 22:18.33 | Aiiane | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt |
| 22:18.39 | pewpewarrows | Yeah I saw that Aiiane ;) |
| 22:18.57 | pewpewarrows | and yes DarkTrooper, it works just like any other debuff |
| 22:19.27 | pewpewarrows | but apparently informing a player that they have a debuff is 'crossing the line' |
| 22:19.30 | DarkTrooper | thought so, i love those that are saying 'this mod is bad' but then turn around the day 'mods tha make debuff icons bigger are okay tho' :) |
| 22:19.57 | pewpewarrows | bah no 4.1 patch today |
| 22:19.58 | DarkTrooper | this will be a pretty interesting test for mythic, and one they were problably expecting |
| 22:19.59 | pewpewarrows | sadface |
| 22:20.22 | DarkTrooper | if they break it, they upset a whole lot of modders and those that want reasonable mods, if they don't, they upset all the rest, haha |
| 22:22.26 | pewpewarrows | I don't even know how they'd go about breaking it without having to rewrite a lot of their core code |
| 22:23.04 | rizzen | it could happen |
| 22:24.26 | `Zypher | very unlikely imo |
| 22:24.32 | DarkTrooper | well all they'd have to do is make the buff/debuff code 'secure' and non-callable from non EA code |
| 22:24.38 | DarkTrooper | but i agree that it's quite unlikley :) |
| 22:25.11 | DarkTrooper | the last thing you want is to lose subs by having a horrible UI that can't be user fixed |
| 22:25.33 | rizzen | mythic has better sense than that |
| 22:25.39 | rizzen | this isnt funcom we're talking about here |
| 22:29.16 | `Zypher | yo |
| 22:29.23 | `Zypher | I was looking through whinyspelltimers |
| 22:29.37 | `Zypher | he uses GetBuffs() |
| 22:29.44 | `Zypher | and I can't figure out where he got that from |
| 22:29.45 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 22:30.08 | *** join/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-073-122-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:30.09 | pewpewarrows | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1302683&postcount=80 |
| 22:30.11 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 22:30.18 | pewpewarrows | this is just getting better and better |
| 22:31.47 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: this guy just makes me believe the nazi's were going in the right direction. |
| 22:31.51 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 22:33.05 | rizzen | why dont we have people dedicated to watching the gene pool for deformities like him |
| 22:33.19 | rizzen | and obviously i cant find shit on that in the api zypher |
| 22:33.46 | rizzen | gah |
| 22:33.50 | rizzen | no patch today |
| 22:33.59 | `Zypher | rizzen: so where did it come from? |
| 22:34.00 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 22:34.05 | `Zypher | local newbuffs = GetBuffs(unit) |
| 22:34.27 | rizzen | maybe he took a shot in the dark? |
| 22:34.30 | rizzen | who knows |
| 22:34.32 | rizzen | it works apparently |
| 22:34.39 | rizzen | so note that for future reference? |
| 22:34.54 | `Zypher | yah |
| 22:34.54 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:34.58 | DarkTrooper | seems pretty logical |
| 22:35.05 | `Zypher | but its not used anywhere else |
| 22:35.16 | pewpewarrows | wait a minute here |
| 22:35.22 | pewpewarrows | you can make local variables? |
| 22:35.29 | pewpewarrows | and then |
| 22:35.34 | pewpewarrows | store them to use later? |
| 22:35.52 | pewpewarrows | that's giving the player way too much control |
| 22:40.44 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: he suffers from retardadis stupidis |
| 22:40.52 | `Zypher | don't worry about it |
| 22:41.00 | Freddy | LOL |
| 22:41.24 | Freddy | that topic is full of fail which makes it win |
| 22:42.18 | `Zypher | GetBuffs() |
| 22:42.21 | `Zypher | is a function |
| 22:42.29 | `Zypher | but it doesn't show up in the unittest |
| 22:42.30 | `Zypher | wtf |
| 22:42.37 | pewpewarrows | hehe |
| 22:42.48 | `Zypher | stop failing mythic! |
| 22:47.15 | Freddy | this guy's latest post |
| 22:47.16 | Freddy | makes no sense |
| 22:47.49 | Freddy | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1302864&postcount=85 |
| 22:49.46 | `Zypher | god |
| 22:49.50 | `Zypher | im going to kill myself |
| 22:49.57 | `Zypher | stop linking that stuff |
| 22:51.08 | Freddy | lol |
| 22:51.12 | Freddy | that's been the plan all along |
| 22:51.14 | Freddy | keep linking! |
| 22:52.39 | rizzen | why does he keep trying? |
| 22:54.31 | DarkTrooper | i know i'm behind on this topic than yous are, but what's with esiege ? |
| 22:55.05 | DarkTrooper | i know little about lua, but i know enough to know that this dude is well, nuts |
| 22:55.15 | Freddy | lol |
| 23:00.39 | `Zypher | http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=13#0:0:0:0:0:0:25 |
| 23:00.48 | `Zypher | Jesus has done his work. |
| 23:01.15 | DarkTrooper | wow, they got rid of the tabbed format |
| 23:01.41 | `Zypher | no |
| 23:01.43 | `Zypher | they have both |
| 23:01.48 | `Zypher | you can switch between them |
| 23:01.49 | `Zypher | :P |
| 23:01.53 | DarkTrooper | well i'm assuming this one is the default tho |
| 23:02.06 | `Zypher | I think so |
| 23:04.48 | Freddy | oh jeeze @ the new topic |
| 23:04.50 | Freddy | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70294 |
| 23:06.07 | rizzen | .... |
| 23:06.14 | rizzen | im not even going to bother |
| 23:06.29 | Freddy | lol |
| 23:07.10 | DarkTrooper | oh god, i so hope that isn't possible, lol |
| 23:07.30 | `Zypher | I counter! |
| 23:07.46 | DarkTrooper | at least i won't bitch and moan if it is :) |
| 23:08.50 | Freddy | imo zypher wins the thread |
| 23:11.05 | DarkTrooper | and if i'm reading this right, it is possible |
| 23:11.10 | DarkTrooper | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:LootRollWindow.SelectRollNeed |
| 23:11.35 | Freddy | rofl |
| 23:11.35 | Freddy | wow |
| 23:13.30 | DarkTrooper | oh man, someone answered it, flames and anti-mod'ers inc :) |
| 23:26.55 | `Zypher | Summons a Pretty Pretty Test Unicorn! Yay! Activate again to remove the PPTU. |
| 23:37.20 | `Zypher | so it turns out |
| 23:37.28 | `Zypher | Elder Server uses the same login servers |
| 23:37.30 | `Zypher | lol |
| 23:37.35 | `Zypher | I learned something |
| 23:37.36 | tronned[TeaParty | Why are some people so retarded? It's like spray and pray forum posting. |
| 23:38.42 | tronned | (not playing Tea Party with daughter anymore, lol) |
| 23:39.42 | Aiiane | aw, cute tronned :) |
| 23:40.24 | `Zypher | tronned: I was wondering about that lol... |
| 23:40.32 | tronned | XD |
| 23:40.46 | DarkTrooper | was there real tea involved? |
| 23:40.54 | tronned | absolutely not |
| 23:40.57 | `Zypher | so I might or might not be getting my hands on the elder interface.myp *shuushhh* |
| 23:41.06 | tronned | I was playing the part of Mrs. Nesbit |
| 23:41.07 | DarkTrooper | oh, that might have been a tad drull then ^^ |
| 23:41.17 | `Zypher | tronned: rofl |
| 23:41.35 | tronned | WHA UI forums make my eyes sad |
| 23:42.38 | DarkTrooper | you know now i think about it, i don't think i've ever participated in a tea party game with anyone, ever |
| 23:44.00 | tronned | It's not a game, it's a social obligation. |
| 23:44.53 | tronned | Get poured some invisible tea, stir it and blow on it to cool it off. And discuss the latest gossip about Twinklefluffy, Foofoocuddlypoops, and Mister Snuffykins (names changed to protect the innocent) |
| 23:45.39 | DarkTrooper | yeah i don't think i'd be encoraging anyone to learn gossiping skills :) |
| 23:45.48 | DarkTrooper | but all thsi talk of cha has made me want some |
| 23:46.37 | tronned | I don't make the gossip, I just quietly listen. |
| 23:47.04 | tronned | Things like, the drama between why one stuffed animal does not like to sit next to another, or the pros and cons of lizards |
| 23:47.12 | tronned | and sharks. |
| 23:47.38 | rizzen | and sharks? |
| 23:47.54 | tronned | My daughter likes sharks. /shrug |
| 23:47.58 | DarkTrooper | i guess you could interpert that in developing creative skills, might be benifitial afterall |
| 23:48.39 | tronned | I call it gossip, but it's really just her talking out loud about anything. and that is sort of the point. |
| 23:49.29 | Aiiane | it's social interaction in the simplest sense |
| 23:49.58 | tronned | Pretty much, now that she is in preschool, she gets social interaction in spades |
| 23:50.09 | DarkTrooper | haha |
| 23:50.18 | tronned | but she still likes to tea party once in a while, especially when her brother is not around |
| 23:51.03 | tronned | she is smarter than some WHA posters, and conversation is better too. ^_^ |
| 23:51.17 | DarkTrooper | now that's i'd believe :) |
| 23:52.04 | DarkTrooper | actually one of the interesting things with children chatter is often until they're much older, they dont' argue with you, but build upon what you've said |
| 23:56.57 | tronned | my 7 year likes to argue, because he is at the point where he knows he is in school, and knows everything. then he tries to impose his will and knowledge on his sister, which is just comedy in itself, because she could care less. |
| 23:57.35 | DarkTrooper | haha, just wait until they're in uni (if they decide that's the route for them) ^^ |
