| 00:01.34 | Freddy09 | www.failcom.com |
| 00:02.55 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 00:03.00 | pewpewarrows | whoever did that is my hero |
| 00:03.15 | `Zypher | haha |
| 00:03.17 | `Zypher | thats amazing |
| 00:04.04 | Freddy09 | xD |
| 00:04.15 | Freddy09 | imo funcom thought it would get their game more attention |
| 00:05.22 | pewpewarrows | that game could have been so good |
| 00:05.29 | pewpewarrows | another 6-12 months in the oven |
| 00:06.02 | Aiiane | eh, maybe |
| 00:06.06 | Aiiane | on a side note |
| 00:06.28 | Aiiane | is it just me or do none of their actual "combat" in-game videos seem to show female characters? |
| 00:06.49 | Aiiane | heck, most of their videos period |
| 00:06.53 | pewpewarrows | probably because they didn't want people realizing that females attacked 30% slower |
| 00:07.15 | pewpewarrows | btw, something like that doesn't just happen |
| 00:07.39 | pewpewarrows | it was a conscious decision of someone in that dev team at some point in the cycle |
| 00:08.36 | Aiiane | wait... this I did not hear of |
| 00:08.38 | Aiiane | what? |
| 00:08.44 | pewpewarrows | you didn't know |
| 00:08.57 | pewpewarrows | first 2 months of gameplay, all female attacks were 30% slower than male's |
| 00:09.01 | Aiiane | ... |
| 00:09.09 | Aiiane | ~fail funcom |
| 00:09.09 | purl | funcom, you Fail! |
| 00:09.27 | *** join/#waruidev Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 00:09.33 | pewpewarrows | and those 2 months they spent having to fix thousands of animations and rebalance their damage algorithms |
| 00:09.42 | pewpewarrows | thus, something like that wasn't an accident |
| 00:09.49 | pewpewarrows | some dev consciously did that |
| 00:17.46 | Daegalus | or completely forgot to rebalance the animation entirely. |
| 00:25.23 | Aiiane | I don't think any game is going to be able to get away with different performance for males vs females nowadays |
| 00:25.39 | Aiiane | Which, imo, is just fine |
| 00:25.47 | Aiiane | (them not getting away with it, that is :P) |
| 00:25.54 | pewpewarrows | I think |
| 00:26.00 | pewpewarrows | had they just made it a different mechanic |
| 00:26.13 | pewpewarrows | like theyll hit 30% slower, bit each hit be 30% stronger |
| 00:26.25 | pewpewarrows | and inform a player of that when they make a character |
| 00:26.34 | pewpewarrows | s/bit/but/ |
| 00:27.44 | Aiiane | you'd still have theorycrafters that modeled out which one was better |
| 00:27.57 | Aiiane | and then decrying them as "favoring males" or "favoring females" |
| 00:28.18 | pewpewarrows | I guess so |
| 00:33.37 | Ackis | pewpewarrows: did females at least have +10 to cooking and access to the kitchen instance? :P |
| 00:33.46 | Aiiane | -_- |
| 00:33.51 | pewpewarrows | >< |
| 00:34.04 | Ackis | heeh |
| 00:34.17 | Aiiane | make me a sandwich, Ackis. |
| 00:34.27 | Ackis | pfft |
| 00:34.45 | pewpewarrows | sandwich sounds like a good idea, brb |
| 00:34.50 | Ackis | there's a "female" guild on the server, whenever they recruit my gf and I add that you need maxed cooking and tailoring to join |
| 00:45.38 | Aiiane | ...I love america....http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5587421&page=1 |
| 00:46.31 | Netcurse | i bought a rocket launcher this morning |
| 00:51.52 | Netcurse | http://disquette.wordpress.com/warhammer-online-melee-combat-mechanics/ cool |
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| 00:57.39 | lazarenth | someone get cracking on TheoryHammer >_< |
| 00:57.53 | `Zypher | Aiiane: if you don't your a terrorist. |
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| 00:59.35 | Daegalus | So we got Catholics touching your boys, Teachers fucking students, Teachers carrying guns, Politicians in sexual affairs, and Loli porn is legal.... ya america sure does rock. I probably missed like 100s more |
| 00:59.37 | *** join/#waruidev CowBook (n=cowboy@pool-96-252-14-32.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:00.18 | Daegalus | btw, this career planner owns the WARDB one: http://war.mmoguildsites.com/career_planner/disciple_of_khaine |
| 01:00.30 | Daegalus | it actually updates abilities properly on mastery point gain |
| 01:01.09 | Freddy09 | cute |
| 01:01.11 | Aiiane | i believe nicoli_s was working on that Daegalus |
| 01:01.37 | Daegalus | well it rocks. and i wish that design was transformed into a WAR design |
| 01:01.43 | Daegalus | ingame i mean |
| 01:02.17 | Freddy09 | huh |
| 01:02.58 | Freddy09 | rofl why does fist of khaine need upgrading |
| 01:02.58 | `Zypher | Daegalus: your quick to make assumptions go check wardb it does too. |
| 01:03.33 | Freddy09 | nice it does now |
| 01:03.34 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 01:03.34 | Daegalus | but they are incorrect |
| 01:03.38 | Daegalus | that was todays update |
| 01:03.42 | Daegalus | but hte numbers are incorrect |
| 01:03.45 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 01:04.06 | `Zypher | Daegalus: are you sure. |
| 01:04.27 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 01:04.32 | Daegalus | yes, i asked my friend in Elder to check it out. I speced it as if it were a levle 31 disicple. the one on MMOGuild Sites was corret, and hte one on WARDB was off |
| 01:04.35 | Freddy09 | is wardb missing some of the skills that get upgraded too? |
| 01:05.18 | Aiiane | when did they check it, Daegalus? |
| 01:05.45 | Daegalus | today |
| 01:05.50 | Aiiane | like, when today |
| 01:06.27 | Daegalus | about 4 hours ago |
| 01:06.36 | Daegalus | i asked my friend to do it, so im going off what he told me |
| 01:06.39 | Aiiane | um... the elder servers were down as of 4 hours ago |
| 01:06.40 | Daegalus | since im not in elder |
| 01:06.54 | Aiiane | they went down 7 hours ago |
| 01:07.02 | Daegalus | O.o guess he lied to me. that lazy fattard |
| 01:07.07 | Aiiane | actually, sorry |
| 01:07.13 | Aiiane | forgot the EDT->PDT conversion |
| 01:07.14 | Aiiane | 10 hours |
| 01:07.28 | Daegalus | sigh, ok, ignore me then, i have no proof |
| 01:08.19 | Freddy09 | either way if both are different |
| 01:08.20 | Freddy09 | one's wrong |
| 01:08.36 | `Zypher | guys I has a secret. |
| 01:08.46 | Freddy09 | ruh roh |
| 01:09.04 | `Zypher | wardb.com is going to have signatures like the old armory ones! |
| 01:09.11 | Freddy09 | no clue wut that means! |
| 01:09.12 | Freddy09 | woo |
| 01:09.15 | Freddy09 | i'm so excited |
| 01:09.16 | `Zypher | lol |
| 01:09.17 | Freddy09 | and i just can't hide it |
| 01:09.35 | `Zypher | also |
| 01:09.41 | `Zypher | my explorer.exe is broken |
| 01:09.45 | `Zypher | and I can't figure out why |
| 01:09.50 | `Zypher | and I can't start the task manager |
| 01:09.53 | `Zypher | so I can't kill it |
| 01:09.54 | `Zypher | lol |
| 01:10.10 | Freddy09 | rofl pro |
| 01:10.18 | Freddy09 | safe mode wins! |
| 01:10.18 | Aiiane | can you do windowskey-R |
| 01:10.34 | Freddy09 | just start run explorere.exe |
| 01:10.42 | Freddy09 | s/explorere/explorer |
| 01:10.43 | Freddy09 | did it work |
| 01:10.44 | Freddy09 | fail |
| 01:10.44 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 01:10.45 | Aiiane | "Start" is explorer, Freddy09 :P |
| 01:10.50 | Aiiane | also |
| 01:10.52 | Freddy09 | god make me cry |
| 01:10.56 | Aiiane | you need another / on the end of that sed command |
| 01:10.59 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 01:11.00 | Freddy09 | fine |
| 01:11.04 | Freddy09 | i';m just tryinto be like yall! |
| 01:11.06 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 01:11.07 | Aiiane | s/command/line/ |
| 01:11.23 | Freddy09 | ;( |
| 01:11.30 | `Zypher | Aiiane: can't open cmd prompt either |
| 01:11.33 | Freddy09 | s/;(/:)/ |
| 01:11.34 | `Zypher | i tried |
| 01:11.36 | Freddy09 | ok |
| 01:11.38 | Freddy09 | i failed x2 |
| 01:11.39 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 01:11.53 | `Zypher | so Im just gunna wait for my porn to finish downloading |
| 01:11.55 | Aiiane | probably ; or ( is a special character :P |
| 01:11.55 | `Zypher | then reboot |
| 01:11.56 | Freddy09 | LOL |
| 01:12.06 | Freddy09 | yea i figured aiiane |
| 01:12.08 | Freddy09 | or your bots just all hate me |
| 01:12.38 | `Zypher | ~whalefear Freddy09 |
| 01:12.38 | purl | ACTION makes a grotesque whale named Marilyn open its mouth. Freddy09 flees in terror at the sight of Marilyn's poor oral hygeine |
| 01:13.32 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 01:13.36 | Freddy09 | scary teef |
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| 01:14.29 | Daegalus | ~shield |
| 01:14.29 | purl | ACTION turns into shield and protects master |
| 01:23.34 | Freddy09 | who is master |
| 01:30.11 | Daegalus | me |
| 01:30.13 | Daegalus | ~master |
| 01:30.14 | purl | Mr. Bates isn't here right now. |
| 01:30.18 | Daegalus | LOL |
| 01:30.22 | Daegalus | guess not |
| 01:30.31 | Daegalus | ~shield Daegalus |
| 01:30.39 | Daegalus | aww =( |
| 01:32.27 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I finally got cmd up |
| 01:32.31 | `Zypher | and killed explorer |
| 01:32.33 | `Zypher | wewt |
| 01:40.39 | Aiiane | where'd kaelten go :| |
| 01:40.52 | Aiiane | and ckk, for that matter >< |
| 01:40.54 | Aiiane | ~poke Netcurse |
| 01:40.55 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Netcurse, pokes Netcurse repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:41.12 | Netcurse | they are eating i guess |
| 01:41.22 | Aiiane | ah |
| 01:41.29 | Aiiane | at 8:41pm? o.0 |
| 01:58.46 | `Zypher | Aiiane: pizza is good. |
| 01:59.15 | Aiiane | indeed it is |
| 01:59.20 | Aiiane | I plan on ordering some in about an hour :P |
| 01:59.29 | `Zypher | I already ate mine :( |
| 01:59.30 | Aiiane | because the dining hall is closed today and tomorrow |
| 01:59.40 | Aiiane | while they prep for the semester start and do staff traning |
| 01:59.43 | Aiiane | *training |
| 02:00.17 | `Zypher | staff tanning imo |
| 02:00.38 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 02:00.59 | Aiiane | this is socal, we dont need special days for that |
| 02:01.02 | `Zypher | so I'm writing ubuntu 8.04 lts server to a disc atm |
| 02:01.17 | `Zypher | Aiiane: or dying from skin cancer |
| 02:01.24 | `Zypher | dieing* |
| 02:01.26 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 02:01.43 | Aiiane | um, its dying |
| 02:01.48 | `Zypher | is it? |
| 02:01.53 | `Zypher | im a terrible speller |
| 02:01.54 | `Zypher | lol |
| 02:01.57 | Aiiane | yes :P |
| 02:02.25 | Aiiane | die --- intr.v. died, dy·ing (dng), dies |
| 02:04.36 | `Zypher | http://gizmodo.com/5043303/mythbusters-build-a-2100-barrel-painball-gun-to-paint-the-mona-lisa-instantly |
| 02:04.40 | `Zypher | this is really cool |
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| 02:07.29 | `Zypher | cool? |
| 02:19.23 | *** join/#waruidev danboo_ (n=chatzill@adsl-074-166-043-027.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:21.18 | lazarenth | holy crap |
| 02:21.25 | Aiiane | ? |
| 02:21.42 | lazarenth | the video i meant :p |
| 02:21.52 | lazarenth | that was awesome |
| 02:23.21 | lazarenth | I wonder if pets count as group members for the squig herder tactic Strength in Numbas |
| 02:24.05 | lazarenth | a group of squig herders with that tactic and the greenskin comraderie renown tactic would be disgusting either way... |
| 02:43.35 | Freddy09 | [Firefox 2.0.0.16 lol wut? |
| 02:44.43 | `Zypher | laz is failing |
| 02:44.49 | `Zypher | don't worry about it |
| 02:44.54 | Freddy09 | :( firefox 3 is so old now |
| 02:46.09 | smcn | eh, some people have issues with it |
| 02:46.20 | Freddy09 | no wai!! |
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| 03:00.34 | Daegalus | so any of you have any speculations on what server you guys are rolling on (server name, not type) |
| 03:05.34 | *** join/#waruidev `Zypher (n=Zypher@adsl-69-109-175-89.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 03:12.38 | Freddy09 | daeg |
| 03:12.51 | Freddy09 | i'll be on a core, probably that one skull thing or abhorash |
| 03:12.52 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 03:13.21 | `Zypher | All about Barak Varr |
| 03:13.22 | `Zypher | imo |
| 03:13.29 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 03:19.31 | Daegalus | Barak Var will be the first to hit the population caps |
| 03:19.33 | Daegalus | and have queues |
| 03:19.40 | Daegalus | so even though I would prefer it |
| 03:19.48 | Daegalus | i doubt it will work out for our guild to go there |
| 03:20.14 | Daegalus | my guild will probably be on Deathsword (if it becomes a Release server) if not, maybe Tyrion |
| 03:21.02 | *** join/#waruidev JCSmithTemp (n=jcsmith5@118.172.16.33.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) |
| 03:21.34 | *** join/#waruidev thanners (n=thantel@203-59-165-63.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:50.39 | Aiiane | grrrarrr :X neither kaelten nor ckknight are here, i have noone to ask about curseforge stuff :| |
| 03:53.42 | *** join/#waruidev `Zypher[2] (n=zypher@adsl-69-109-175-89.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 03:53.47 | `Zypher[2] | howdy |
| 03:53.55 | `Zypher[2] | I copy Aiiane with irssi screen |
| 03:54.37 | Aiiane | hehe |
| 03:54.40 | Aiiane | its handy |
| 03:55.13 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: that it is |
| 03:55.15 | `Zypher[2] | :P |
| 03:55.36 | Aiiane | as is being able to order pizza online |
| 03:58.22 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: I'm failing at this |
| 03:58.32 | Aiiane | ? |
| 03:58.37 | `Zypher[2] | to switch screens its not ^A is it? |
| 03:58.55 | Aiiane | it's ^A plus a command character |
| 03:59.07 | Aiiane | i.e. press ^A, release, then press command key |
| 03:59.12 | Aiiane | for instance, detach |
| 03:59.25 | Aiiane | is ^A, release, d |
| 03:59.53 | Aiiane | also, |
| 03:59.54 | Aiiane | ~rftm |
| 04:00.03 | Aiiane | fail, purl :| |
| 04:00.03 | Aiiane | http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/screen/ |
| 04:00.07 | thanners | ooh screen. |
| 04:00.25 | thanners | screen is awesome. |
| 04:00.59 | thanners | Although other people's definitions of 'awesome' sometimes vary.. |
| 04:02.15 | Aiiane | hehe |
| 04:02.17 | Aiiane | I love screen |
| 04:03.34 | thanners | I've got a screen with my.. home stuff mixed in amongst my other work terminals |
| 04:03.39 | `Zypher[2] | hmm |
| 04:03.40 | `Zypher[2] | ok |
| 04:03.44 | `Zypher[2] | this works for me |
| 04:03.48 | `Zypher[2] | time to setup lighthttpd |
| 04:03.52 | thanners | the console-based stuff makes it much easier to "look like work" |
| 04:03.52 | `Zypher[2] | and php |
| 04:03.54 | `Zypher[2] | and mysql |
| 04:04.22 | Aiiane | thanners: I just keep a copy of irssi running in screen on a shell account I have |
| 04:04.30 | Aiiane | (that's who/what Aii is) |
| 04:04.34 | thanners | handy. |
| 04:04.35 | thanners | ahh |
| 04:04.54 | Aii | see? :) |
| 04:04.58 | thanners | heh |
| 04:05.08 | thanners | I keep screen running at home, has various stuff |
| 04:05.14 | thanners | w3m for browsing, which is handy, too. |
| 04:05.32 | Aii | Well, screen is especially handy when I have a shell account on the main server cluster for the CompSci department here |
| 04:05.48 | Aii | I can generally keep things running with near-zero downtime |
| 04:05.52 | thanners | ah, right. |
| 04:06.02 | Aii | like... I think the server cluster has been down about... once in the past year, for ~1 hr |
| 04:06.13 | Aii | because they were upgrading kernel stuff |
| 04:06.17 | Aii | that was about it |
| 04:06.27 | thanners | So only down because.. well.. it actually needed to be. (c: |
| 04:07.20 | Aiiane | for a college of only ~1000 students, we have a lot of computing resources :D |
| 04:07.56 | thanners | Nice. |
| 04:09.05 | `Zypher | Aiiane: lol |
| 04:09.47 | thanners | So presumably irssi isn't your usual client, then? |
| 04:10.13 | thanners | Or do you use it in both cases? |
| 04:11.31 | *** join/#waruidev Netcurse__ (n=chatzill@c-67-169-39-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:12.24 | Aiiane | I have a separate more graphical client running on my personal desktop |
| 04:12.59 | thanners | ah, right. I don't use irc much at all, so I hadn't formed any particular attachments to any clients |
| 04:13.45 | thanners | just saw "oh, they've got one of them 'eye-arr-see things' for waruidev, mebbe I should take a look" |
| 04:13.56 | Aiiane | brb |
| 04:16.57 | Aiiane | back |
| 04:17.15 | Aiiane | mm pizza |
| 04:17.53 | `Zypher | mmm |
| 04:17.58 | `Zypher | girls on the internets. |
| 04:18.08 | Aiiane | ... |
| 04:18.23 | `Zypher | hey they're the ones doing silly stuff. |
| 04:18.32 | Aiiane | um |
| 04:18.46 | Netcurse | ~fail Aiiane |
| 04:18.46 | purl | Aiiane, you Fail! |
| 04:18.50 | Aiiane | may i point out that the majority of "silly stuff" on the internet is most likely done by guys |
| 04:19.38 | `Zypher | Aiiane: lies |
| 04:20.11 | Aiiane | well you cant have it both ways |
| 04:20.24 | Aiiane | either the vast majority of silly stuff on the internet is done by guys |
| 04:20.31 | Aiiane | or there are girls on the interwebs |
| 04:20.34 | Aiiane | which is it? |
| 04:20.50 | thanners | rofl |
| 04:21.27 | `Zypher | girls on the intarwebs. |
| 04:21.44 | `Zypher | http://mirror.servut.us/flash/MetalGearAwesome.swf |
| 04:27.28 | `Zypher | bla bla bla |
| 04:27.31 | `Zypher | bla |
| 04:27.52 | Aiiane | ~whalepunt `Zypher[2] |
| 04:27.53 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts `Zypher[2] across the Solar System |
| 04:28.08 | `Zypher | o.o |
| 04:28.18 | Aiiane | ~whalepunt `Zypher |
| 04:28.18 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts `Zypher across Soviet Russia (No... you don't punt whales there) |
| 04:28.21 | `Zypher | haha |
| 04:28.22 | `Zypher | gg |
| 04:28.40 | `Zypher | http://69.109.175.89 |
| 04:28.43 | `Zypher | wheres that take you? |
| 04:29.18 | `Zypher[2] | ? |
| 04:30.00 | Aiiane | brb, looking up exploits for default-settings lighttpd installs |
| 04:31.57 | `Zypher | Aiiane: does it work tho? |
| 04:32.31 | Aiiane | lol, that was a reference to the fact that i got the ubuntu/lighttpd default page :P |
| 04:32.42 | Aiiane | so yes |
| 04:33.40 | `Zypher | ok coolio |
| 04:42.56 | Daegalus | I think all exploits for Lighttpd are currently patched. At least all known ones. last easy one was in 1.4.17 |
| 04:45.39 | Aiiane | rofl: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1257625 |
| 04:46.09 | thanners | mmmmmm lunch |
| 04:46.50 | Aiiane | Ah, aussie |
| 04:46.55 | Aiiane | I was wondering there for a sec |
| 04:47.29 | thanners | heh |
| 04:47.44 | Daegalus | lol nice |
| 04:47.51 | Daegalus | I always picked hte Hat |
| 04:48.00 | Daegalus | it had +40 rim of Win |
| 04:49.35 | *** join/#waruidev ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 04:49.36 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:49.43 | Aiiane | aha! there is teh ckknight |
| 04:49.48 | Aiiane | ~poke ckknight |
| 04:49.49 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ckknight, pokes ckknight repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 04:50.34 | ckknight | busy |
| 04:50.36 | ckknight | ...sex time |
| 04:51.16 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 04:51.30 | Aiiane | you log on irc to tell us that? |
| 04:52.21 | `Zypher | conquest! |
| 04:52.38 | `Zypher | I feel excited |
| 04:52.46 | `Zypher | I learned how to mount a cdrom over samba |
| 04:52.47 | `Zypher | lol |
| 04:52.48 | `Zypher | :P |
| 04:53.02 | `Zypher | it was actually really simple |
| 04:53.05 | Daegalus | O.o |
| 04:53.07 | `Zypher | but I feel happy none the less |
| 04:53.09 | Daegalus | ~fail Zypher |
| 04:53.10 | purl | Zypher: FAIL! |
| 04:53.25 | Daegalus | welcome to 2001 |
| 04:53.34 | `Zypher | lol |
| 04:53.36 | `Zypher | shush |
| 04:53.38 | thanners | huzzah! (c: |
| 04:54.14 | Daegalus | Next Step: Custom Kernal! |
| 04:54.17 | Daegalus | Kernel* |
| 04:54.20 | `Zypher | Daegalus: thats easy |
| 04:54.25 | `Zypher | I've been doing that forever |
| 04:54.30 | Daegalus | mhmm |
| 04:54.32 | Daegalus | sure |
| 04:54.34 | `Zypher | ok |
| 04:54.38 | `Zypher | you don't has to listen |
| 04:54.51 | Daegalus | but i want to |
| 04:54.53 | Daegalus | since im bored |
| 04:55.00 | Daegalus | and im just giving you a har dtime |
| 04:55.20 | `Zypher | har dtime? |
| 04:55.23 | `Zypher | that sounds fun |
| 04:55.28 | `Zypher | kinda like |
| 04:55.31 | `Zypher | par dtime |
| 04:55.34 | thanners | har d har har? |
| 04:57.22 | `Zypher | cya kids around |
| 04:57.39 | Daegalus | eh i do that a lot |
| 04:57.44 | Daegalus | press the space too early |
| 04:59.05 | `Zypher[2] | ok |
| 04:59.07 | thanners | what i hate is when i somehow manage to migrate a character across into another word. dunno how that typo happens, but I still do it.. |
| 04:59.26 | Daegalus | lol |
| 04:59.56 | `Zypher[2] | hmm |
| 05:00.01 | `Zypher[2] | this is funziez |
| 05:00.03 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 05:05.44 | Daegalus | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1219984898050.jpg <--- its cute |
| 05:05.57 | Aiiane | ^_^ |
| 05:06.54 | Daegalus | I find Caturdays funny |
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| 05:20.24 | Daegalus | i dunno if i should laugh at this, or not: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1219986335559.png |
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| 05:36.26 | Aiiane | so... WindowSetGameActionData and WindowSetGameActionTrigger are two very interesting API functions, pewpewarrows |
| 05:36.51 | pewpewarrows | hmm, what do they do? |
| 05:36.58 | Aiiane | WindowSetGameActionData (self:GetName (), GameData.PlayerActions.DO_ABILITY, abilityId, L"") |
| 05:37.06 | Aiiane | what does that remind you of from WoW? |
| 05:37.28 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 05:37.40 | pewpewarrows | I'm quite intoxicated, so you'll have to work with me here |
| 05:37.43 | Aiiane | hint... it begins with secure and ends with button |
| 05:37.49 | thanners | rofl |
| 05:37.50 | pewpewarrows | ha-ha! |
| 05:37.58 | pewpewarrows | oh this is very interesting |
| 05:38.41 | Aiiane | coupled with WindowSetGameActionTrigger (windowName, GetActionIdFromName (actionButton:GetActionName ())) |
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| 05:44.09 | Volki | HAI CAN I HAS ICECREEMZ? |
| 05:44.24 | `Zypher[2] | Volki: no. |
| 05:44.39 | Volki | zyph has a bro |
| 05:45.16 | `Zypher[2] | not really, im copying aii |
| 05:45.21 | pewpewarrows | that's a really nice find Aiiane (I'm still slowly comprehending it) |
| 05:45.41 | Volki | yea Aiiane nice find |
| 05:46.14 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: As far as I can tell (and Belatuca1ros is probably sitting back in his chair and chuckling at anything I'm missing), it allows you to set a certain frame to, when left-clicked, activate a given ability |
| 05:46.29 | Aiiane | (or so some other things, with different PlayerActions members) |
| 05:46.42 | pewpewarrows | yeah I just grep'ed the default files and I'm looking at how mythic's using it |
| 05:46.50 | Aiiane | and the Trigger api call lets you associate an actionID (aka keybinding target) with that |
| 05:46.53 | pewpewarrows | this is a goldmine if it works the way I think it works |
| 05:47.09 | Aiiane | the only downside is, it seems to be limited to left-clicks |
| 05:47.19 | Volki | I'll start a site and we can sell the gold !! |
| 05:47.24 | Aiiane | which would put a dent in things like Clique |
| 05:47.34 | Aiiane | wouldn't totally kill them, but it would make them less powerful |
| 05:47.41 | pewpewarrows | yeh |
| 05:48.13 | Volki | Well, why couldn't you just reroute them? |
| 05:48.22 | Aiiane | reroute what... |
| 05:48.31 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 05:48.41 | pewpewarrows | couldn't we just intercept the clicks to the frame |
| 05:48.50 | pewpewarrows | and fool the api? |
| 05:48.56 | Aiiane | fool it into what? |
| 05:49.04 | Aiiane | the left-click trigger is handled in C |
| 05:49.06 | Volki | into thinking it's a left click |
| 05:49.12 | Volki | l2C |
| 05:49.13 | Volki | lol |
| 05:49.20 | Aiiane | it's not a matter of "l2C" |
| 05:49.28 | Aiiane | its that we can't modify C calls via Lua |
| 05:49.41 | Aiiane | (for good reason) |
| 05:49.45 | pewpewarrows | bah you're right Aiiane |
| 05:50.05 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 05:50.07 | Aiiane | the only way to cast spells is via left clicks or keypresses |
| 05:50.20 | pewpewarrows | right-clicking the actionbar didn't use the skill? |
| 05:50.28 | Aiiane | right-clicking the actionbar clears that slot :P |
| 05:50.34 | pewpewarrows | oh right |
| 05:50.35 | Aiiane | (which is handled in Lua) |
| 05:50.39 | thanners | that's.. inconvenient |
| 05:51.16 | Aiiane | thanners: you have to hold shift though ;) |
| 05:51.31 | thanners | ah. (c: |
| 05:51.31 | pewpewarrows | yeah I knew about shift-R-click |
| 05:52.00 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: whether the full features of Clique are possible depends on whether you can call WindowSetGameActionData in combat or not, and have it work |
| 05:52.30 | pewpewarrows | I'm guessing the game doesn't let you fire keypress events from an addon :P |
| 05:52.36 | Aiiane | Correct. :P |
| 05:55.04 | pewpewarrows | well |
| 05:55.13 | pewpewarrows | if the game's going to be that limiting |
| 05:55.27 | pewpewarrows | I'd say take the clique in a new direction |
| 05:55.39 | pewpewarrows | instead of basing everything around the mouse |
| 05:55.52 | pewpewarrows | use existing keybinds + hover |
| 05:56.16 | thanners | to mimic wow-like [target=mouseover] functionality? |
| 05:56.25 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 05:56.44 | Volki | so what's clique, and why do we need it? |
| 05:56.48 | Aiiane | so basically, just keep track of their previous target; then when they mouseover a unitframe, target that unit, then when they mouse back off, restore it? |
| 05:56.56 | pewpewarrows | sort of |
| 05:57.04 | pewpewarrows | keep track of cur target, yeah |
| 05:57.17 | pewpewarrows | then when they press a valid keybind while hovering |
| 05:57.21 | Aiiane | I'm not sure if you can swap targets before the spell starts casting |
| 05:57.27 | Aiiane | since that's handled in C |
| 05:57.45 | pewpewarrows | intercept the bind, swap target, continue the event, then swap back |
| 05:57.46 | Aiiane | (plus you'll have a hard time detecting the keybind) |
| 05:57.47 | pewpewarrows | if that's possible |
| 05:57.50 | Aiiane | you can't |
| 05:57.53 | Aiiane | intercept it |
| 05:58.05 | Aiiane | or at least, I've found nothing even remotely close to allowing that |
| 05:58.06 | Volki | intercept is for warriors |
| 05:58.12 | Aiiane | ~lart Volki |
| 05:58.12 | purl | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs Volki |
| 05:58.21 | Volki | lol@hotmal |
| 05:58.37 | Aiiane | The only way I've even found to get general device input events pewpewarrows |
| 05:58.48 | Aiiane | involves overwriting "Root"'s raw event handler |
| 05:58.57 | Aiiane | which makes it so you can't move :P |
| 05:59.04 | Daegalus | lol |
| 05:59.04 | Volki | which isn't good |
| 05:59.12 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 06:00.46 | Volki | If you can't do it, why worry about it? Not like it's 100% needed |
| 06:01.06 | pewpewarrows | I'd rather try and do it |
| 06:02.12 | pewpewarrows | I'm much more interested in doing something like that than just any old addon |
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| 06:09.04 | pewpewarrows | youre right Aiiane, all the keypresses are pretty much locked down |
| 06:09.17 | pewpewarrows | everything really seems to be handled in C |
| 06:09.46 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: good? |
| 06:09.49 | Aiiane | which is basically the alternative to implementing the taint system WoW uses |
| 06:09.58 | pewpewarrows | right |
| 06:10.07 | pewpewarrows | and no `Zypher[2], not good for us :( |
| 06:10.13 | `Zypher[2] | pewpewarrows: why? |
| 06:10.26 | pewpewarrows | makes my life 10 times harder |
| 06:10.43 | `Zypher[2] | what are you trying to make? |
| 06:10.46 | `Zypher[2] | clique? |
| 06:10.55 | `Zypher[2] | well screw that lol |
| 06:10.58 | `Zypher[2] | you don't need it |
| 06:10.59 | `Zypher[2] | lol |
| 06:11.07 | `Zypher[2] | I feel very lol tonite |
| 06:11.19 | pewpewarrows | well you don't need any addons |
| 06:11.42 | `Zypher[2] | true, but if you can't make something then don't, its not worth wasting time on imo |
| 06:11.58 | pewpewarrows | but we don't know if we can't make it |
| 06:12.19 | `Zypher[2] | well try, and if you can't then leave it alone i suppose. |
| 06:12.23 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 06:12.32 | `Zypher[2] | okie dokie. |
| 06:12.51 | `Zypher[2] | I really like this keyboard I feel like I can type much faster on it then normal. |
| 06:12.54 | `Zypher[2] | :D |
| 06:13.15 | `Zypher[2] | hmm anyone know of any good irssi configs |
| 06:13.25 | `Zypher[2] | the defauly one is kinda ugly and I don't feel like writing one. |
| 06:13.30 | `Zypher[2] | default* |
| 06:14.12 | Daegalus | just use xchat |
| 06:14.15 | pewpewarrows | my friend's actually putting together a whole dotfile collaboration site |
| 06:14.25 | pewpewarrows | I'll let you know when he finishes it |
| 06:14.32 | Aiiane | http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi if you do decide to write one :P |
| 06:16.36 | pewpewarrows | where in the default interface do they create the combat log tab? |
| 06:16.51 | pewpewarrows | it's a C function I'm assuming |
| 06:17.16 | Aiiane | LogDisplayAddLog( logDisplayName, "Chat", true ) |
| 06:17.16 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.24 | pewpewarrows | thanks |
| 06:17.25 | Aiiane | chatwindow.lua |
| 06:19.34 | `Zypher[2] | Aiiane: to set the theme in irssi its |
| 06:19.38 | `Zypher[2] | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.14 | Aiiane | yes |
| 06:20.29 | `Zypher[2] | yay |
| 06:20.34 | `Zypher[2] | much better |
| 06:22.44 | `Zypher[2] | I really should be going to sleep |
| 06:22.47 | `Zypher[2] | :'( |
| 06:22.54 | thanners | What time is it? |
| 06:23.01 | `Zypher[2] | 11:22 |
| 06:23.06 | `Zypher[2] | but I have to get up at 5:15 |
| 06:23.15 | `Zypher[2] | for a hockey gamer |
| 06:23.18 | `Zypher[2] | game* |
| 06:23.22 | thanners | so you're on the west coast, then? ish? |
| 06:23.26 | `Zypher[2] | yes |
| 06:23.26 | thanners | ah. ew. that's way too early. |
| 06:23.32 | `Zypher[2] | thanners: I know |
| 06:23.40 | `Zypher[2] | and I play in the oldest devision for the tournament |
| 06:23.46 | `Zypher[2] | but still get shafted for icetimes |
| 06:24.01 | `Zypher[2] | I also have a game that night at 7pm |
| 06:24.08 | `Zypher[2] | :`( |
| 06:24.16 | thanners | yech |
| 06:24.55 | `Zypher[2] | Daegalus, Aiiane, and me all live on the west coast I believe |
| 06:25.07 | `Zypher[2] | idk about the rest of you kids, I know pewpewarrows is east |
| 06:25.25 | pewpewarrows | yep, east here |
| 06:26.31 | thanners | ah, so insanely late for you then, pewpewarrows. |
| 06:26.39 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 06:27.12 | `Zypher[2] | thanners: you? |
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| 06:27.37 | `Zypher[2] | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.40 | `Zypher[2] | I need to sleep |
| 06:27.42 | `Zypher[2] | ttyl |
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| 06:31.09 | Chryso | morning |
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| 06:38.48 | thanners | whoops. I feel so rude for suddenly vanishing like that. |
| 06:41.18 | Daegalus | eh it happens |
| 06:41.30 | thanners | comes from being at work, I suppose. |
| 06:41.45 | thanners | people come along, I quickly switch terminals. |
| 06:45.13 | Daegalus | hehe |
| 06:45.36 | Daegalus | i just make a panic button script. Hides all my windows except the ones I have specified :P |
| 06:48.22 | thanners | ah, handy. |
| 06:48.59 | thanners | I've just got a whole slew of tiled console windows |
| 06:49.27 | thanners | so at least it's not that easy to tell that it's not-work at a quick glance. it's just a whole slew of text. |
| 06:55.48 | Daegalus | hehe |
| 06:55.49 | Daegalus | ya |
| 07:00.41 | Chryso | svn backup too :) |
| 07:00.48 | Chryso | starting to look good finally :) |
| 07:07.24 | Aii | can someone hilight me quick? checking something |
| 07:09.22 | Aiiane | nevermind, I'll just hilight myself. Aii |
| 07:09.59 | Aiiane | woo. http://labs.quadpoint.org/irssi/hilightwin.pl is handy |
| 07:17.13 | Daegalus | im so freaking bored its not even funny |
| 07:19.32 | thanners | I'm experiencing a post-lunch coma. |
| 07:19.34 | Aii | hmm... testing another script... |
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| 08:01.51 | Aiiane | is it odd that I can sing this song in its entirety? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvSp2Z3kwZ0 |
| 08:01.57 | Aiiane | including the fast parts like the one at 1:26 |
| 08:06.29 | Daegalus | you are just that good :P |
| 08:11.06 | Aiiane | hmm, i didnt know cascada had done a cover of Because the Night |
| 08:15.30 | Daegalus | hehe, i like cascada, but then again i like dance/hardcore techno |
| 08:16.07 | Aiiane | i like a ton of different stuff |
| 08:16.10 | Aiiane | it all depends on my mood |
| 08:16.40 | Daegalus | i like all music except RAP |
| 08:16.43 | Daegalus | i hate rap |
| 08:16.58 | Daegalus | wee i just deleted 99% of my myspace. lol |
| 08:17.15 | Aiiane | i dont like most rap, but there are some exceptions |
| 08:17.29 | Aiiane | every so often ill listen to a kayne west song, or something |
| 08:17.31 | Daegalus | well yes, 1or 2 exceptions, but 99.9% of it is crap |
| 08:18.02 | Aiiane | especially if i have other reasons to listen to it. like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZd1Js0QaOI :P |
| 08:20.38 | thanners | question: how much disk space will WAR require? (approximation or upper bounds are fine) |
| 08:21.03 | Aiiane | somewhere between 10-15gb, if the current client + patches are any indication |
| 08:21.18 | thanners | mmm. Definitely need to free up more space. |
| 08:24.25 | Daegalus | i have 8 terabytes of space to play around with |
| 08:24.30 | thanners | blah. |
| 08:24.39 | thanners | I need to get a real separate machine for gaming, I think. |
| 08:24.58 | thanners | 8TB. nice. (c: |
| 08:26.16 | Daegalus | its actually 16, but its in a raid, and each drive has a backup drive |
| 08:26.48 | thanners | At the moment just use my macbookpro for everything, with a small windows partition for when i need it to play games. |
| 08:27.21 | Chryso | Daegalus, each drive is in raid 1 with a backup drive ? |
| 08:27.35 | Daegalus | i wish i could get mac osx on this laptop |
| 08:28.00 | thanners | i mean, seeing as until a few months ago the only game i was playing was WoW, so I didn't even need to reboot.. and then for past few months nothing. |
| 08:28.15 | Daegalus | yes a Raid 1 |
| 08:28.16 | thanners | I quite like OSX. well.. otherwise I wouldn't be using it, I guess. (c: |
| 08:28.45 | Daegalus | if i ever get OSX, iw ould use VMWare Fusion to get windows integraed and play thorugh that if it works |
| 08:28.52 | Daegalus | Wish they would make something liek that for Linux |
| 08:29.00 | Chryso | Daegalus, you don't have backup of you data ? |
| 08:29.05 | thanners | Wonder how well Fusion would work.... |
| 08:29.09 | Chryso | Raid1 only protects against disk failure |
| 08:29.57 | thanners | I was gonna try that, and/or parallels. |
| 08:30.17 | thanners | when I wanted to try Portal. But then that managed to work in Crossover, so I never got around to trying the others |
| 08:30.19 | Daegalus | yes, I know Chryso. But both drives keep identical data |
| 08:30.22 | Daegalus | so if one dies |
| 08:30.27 | Daegalus | the other takes its place |
| 08:30.40 | Chryso | yes, but what happens if one drives get corrupted data somehow :) |
| 08:30.51 | Daegalus | im fucked :P |
| 08:30.58 | Aiiane | how many drives is your raid array total? |
| 08:31.03 | Chryso | 16 he has |
| 08:31.05 | Daegalus | 16 |
| 08:31.11 | Chryso | must be darn expensive ^^ |
| 08:31.17 | Aiiane | ...why would you put them in raid1 |
| 08:31.22 | Chryso | you got racks at your home :) ? |
| 08:31.23 | Aiiane | and not raid 5/6 |
| 08:31.39 | Daegalus | my dad has a friend that works at dell, we get very cheap stuff |
| 08:31.45 | Chryso | raid 5 and 6 have the same problem too, they protect against drive failures not data corruption ^^ |
| 08:31.49 | Aiiane | sure |
| 08:31.50 | Chryso | Daegalus: pffft |
| 08:31.51 | Daegalus | Aiiane: cause it started out as a Raid 1 with like 2 drives, and got bigger |
| 08:31.56 | Aiiane | but you get a lot more capacity with 5/6 |
| 08:32.00 | Daegalus | never got aroudn to changing it |
| 08:32.07 | Chryso | true, i got a 2TB raid 5 array ^^ |
| 08:32.25 | Chryso | need to change it to a separate rig though |
| 08:32.29 | Chryso | but don't have the cash :( |
| 08:33.04 | Aiiane | I don't have any redundancy on my current system :| |
| 08:33.16 | Aiiane | I just keep anything truly critical elsewhere |
| 08:34.07 | Daegalus | our terabyte server is jsut for media and random backups, its not really used for sensitive data. I mean even if it did have it, we have copies elsewhere |
| 08:34.21 | Chryso | k |
| 08:34.28 | Daegalus | and isnt Raid 2 the only one with Redundancy anyway? |
| 08:34.34 | Aiiane | if I really need to store critical stuff, I put it on the campus fileserver |
| 08:34.38 | Chryso | what is raid 2 ^^ ? |
| 08:34.59 | Aiiane | which is ~250tb of RAID6 |
| 08:35.31 | Aiiane | raid2 is hamming code |
| 08:35.34 | Aiiane | which is being phased out |
| 08:35.38 | Daegalus | why does it seem like its going to be a bitch to go from raid 1 to raid 5 or raid 6 |
| 08:35.39 | Aiiane | because it's actually not that great |
| 08:35.41 | Chryso | nice raid mode :) |
| 08:35.56 | Chryso | Daegalus: because u did not plan ahead :) |
| 08:36.03 | Daegalus | no, i really didnt |
| 08:36.07 | Aiiane | Daegalus: because raid 5/6 requires you to have all your drives in the array from the start? |
| 08:36.15 | Chryso | however if you have a good controler you can try to put everything on specific drives |
| 08:36.23 | Chryso | then take the other drives and start getting them in raid 5 |
| 08:36.24 | Aiiane | since it stripes across all drives |
| 08:36.28 | Chryso | move the data again |
| 08:36.41 | Aiiane | Chryso: Doesn't work for 5/6 |
| 08:36.56 | Daegalus | i should just wipe all the drives and restart. I mean i doubt i have anywhere else to backup 6.2 terabytes of data. |
| 08:36.57 | Chryso | Aiiane: you can add disks to raid 5/6 normally |
| 08:37.03 | Chryso | if your controller has the option |
| 08:37.20 | Aiiane | Chryso: takes forever though for it to resync them |
| 08:37.24 | Chryso | Yes |
| 08:37.26 | Chryso | but feasible :) |
| 08:37.33 | Chryso | Daegalus, remove all the backup drives and use them to build the raid 5 |
| 08:37.48 | Chryso | you should still be able to read data from the other drives ^^ |
| 08:38.27 | Aiiane | (ofc, murphy says one of the nonbackup drives will fail as you're doing this) |
| 08:38.35 | Chryso | naturally :) |
| 08:38.37 | Daegalus | oh no doubt about that |
| 08:38.47 | Daegalus | hopefully its hte empty ones xD |
| 08:39.15 | Daegalus | well, ill do it tomorrow or something, doing it at 2 am woudl not be a wise idea |
| 08:39.24 | Chryso | hehe |
| 08:39.27 | Chryso | you in arizona ? |
| 08:39.32 | Daegalus | cali |
| 08:39.37 | Chryso | k |
| 08:40.54 | thanners | 2am's always about the time I feel a sudden desire to start tinkering with something that's gonna take ages, though. |
| 08:41.08 | thanners | Or midnight. and then goodbye to sleep after that... |
| 08:41.48 | thanners | What are you crazy people still doing awake, anyway? (c: |
| 08:42.03 | Chryso | actually it is lunch time here :) |
| 08:42.24 | Aiiane | hehe thanners |
| 08:42.28 | Aiiane | I'm sometimes like that |
| 08:42.33 | Aiiane | although usually around 1am for me |
| 08:43.11 | thanners | lunch time, huh? .. nup, my world geography is terrible, I can't think of whereabouts that might be |
| 08:43.25 | Chryso | Eastern Europe |
| 08:44.52 | thanners | Aiiane: yeah, it's like "Oh, I'm sure I can get it done quickly.. Oh hey, the sun's up" |
| 08:45.04 | Daegalus | i usually get interested in something around 12-2 and hten stay up till 6 tinkerng with it. Be it software, hardware, or just even movies O.o |
| 08:45.15 | thanners | hehe yup |
| 08:45.56 | thanners | Don't know why things suddenly become so much more interesting just before sleep. |
| 08:46.18 | Chryso | because u like working at night :) |
| 08:46.21 | thanners | It's like an extension of the thing that happens with kids, when they instantly become more talkative before bed, to avoid sleep. |
| 08:46.25 | Chryso | like so many of us ^^ |
| 08:46.55 | thanners | Well it is quieter at night, anyway. |
| 08:47.11 | thanners | Used to be the only time I could get any homework done. Too much noise in the house during the more sane hours of the day. |
| 08:47.44 | Daegalus | zomg w00t |
| 08:47.46 | Daegalus | http://polishlinux.org/apps/vmware-workstation-65-beta-1-with-unity-support/ |
| 08:47.55 | Daegalus | now i gotta wait till they get performance up |
| 08:48.03 | Daegalus | or try VirtualBox's stuff |
| 08:48.38 | Daegalus | oh ya, VB doesnt have Seamless support for x64 |
| 08:52.32 | Daegalus | it doesnt support DX anyway. ohw ell, must wait longer to fully migrate to Linux |
| 08:53.04 | thanners | alas. |
| 08:53.40 | Aiiane | nini~ |
| 08:54.19 | Daegalus | night aiiane |
| 08:55.18 | Daegalus | I wish some VM software will figure out how to boot a partition on a physical drive. So that you can dual boot, but run them at the same time |
| 08:55.28 | Daegalus | you can use your systems hardware, and you can actually do stuff |
| 08:55.32 | Daegalus | without emulation. |
| 08:55.45 | Chryso | Daegalus, VMWare allows you to use real hard drives as hard drives |
| 08:55.52 | Chryso | so it should be able to boot it |
| 08:56.02 | Daegalus | when did that feature get addd |
| 08:56.09 | Chryso | a while back |
| 08:56.23 | Daegalus | hmm, booting up VM right now to check |
| 08:56.38 | Chryso | i have the workstation version |
| 08:57.29 | Daegalus | oh it does |
| 08:57.42 | Daegalus | any experience with it? all the data loss popups arent very encouraging |
| 08:57.55 | Chryso | never experienced with it |
| 08:58.03 | Chryso | never got around dualbooting on this computer |
| 08:58.39 | Daegalus | ill do a backup of my hard drive, then do it |
| 08:59.21 | thanners | yaaaay hometime. bye all. (c: |
| 08:59.41 | Daegalus | bye |
| 09:00.04 | Daegalus | ZOMG>...............WAR Beta 3.3 has BRONZE on WINE....... *....* |
| 09:05.13 | Daegalus | imma dualboot just to try this thing out O.O |
| 09:05.28 | Chryso | don't have the drives for that :) |
| 09:05.42 | Chryso | atm i don't even have a CD-Rom drive :) |
| 09:07.53 | Daegalus | my mind is about to blow up. give me a moment O.o |
| 09:08.33 | Daegalus | hmm, i got 66 gigs to waste on this laptops hard drive. PARTITION RESIZE TIME!!! GO!!! |
| 09:08.48 | Daegalus | (as you may notice, im insane) |
| 09:09.21 | Chryso | or your the sanest person in an insane world :) |
| 09:09.36 | Daegalus | that works |
| 09:09.37 | Daegalus | :P |
| 09:09.51 | Daegalus | sorry if this proves fruitful i might be migrating to Linux sooner than I thought |
| 09:10.09 | Daegalus | gah, i need a partition resizer, brb |
| 09:10.21 | Chryso | partition magic :) |
| 09:11.09 | Daegalus | zomg, vista has a built in one |
| 09:11.30 | Daegalus | and i hate PM, i use Acronis Disk Suit |
| 09:11.32 | Daegalus | Suite |
| 09:12.45 | Daegalus | you think 10 gigs should be enough for this test |
| 09:12.59 | rizzen | isnt the client 9 and a half? |
| 09:13.06 | rizzen | with another 5gigs of textures on the way? |
| 09:13.13 | Chryso | make it 20 |
| 09:13.16 | Chryso | to be on the safe side |
| 09:14.30 | Daegalus | why would i need to install the client? i cna just launch it fromthe Windows partition |
| 09:14.55 | Chryso | what you wanna put on the other partition ? |
| 09:14.57 | Chryso | linux ? |
| 09:15.03 | Chryso | get 1 GB for swap |
| 09:15.07 | Chryso | 5 GB for system |
| 09:15.09 | Daegalus | the 10 gigs is just for the linux itself |
| 09:15.11 | Chryso | should be good enough |
| 09:15.16 | Daegalus | i already did 10 |
| 09:15.25 | Chryso | works too |
| 09:15.30 | Daegalus | im expecting for Vista to crash and give me a hard drive failure |
| 09:16.06 | Daegalus | ZOMG >> It worked..... This makes it official Vista is more stable than XP O.o i have not crashed, BSODed or had problems in 10 months |
| 09:19.03 | Daegalus | well after this burns, i would say i will be gone for 10-15 minutes, then be back on Ubuntu, mmmm |
| 09:23.24 | SkyFlash_ | of course is vista more stable |
| 09:23.59 | SkyFlash_ | it obviously uses a whole CPU core and 1 gig of RAM just to monitor the stability *g* |
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| 09:24.30 | Daegalus | i have a dual core with 4 gigs of ram, not really a problem |
| 09:26.01 | Daegalus | ok cya guys soon |
| 09:26.05 | SkyFlash_ | cya |
| 09:58.12 | SkyFlash_ | for all your germans: my orcanizer is now online as a website... it uses the same lua script as the ingame addon I will release when i can test it in open beta :P URL is: http://www.blackritual.de |
| 09:58.25 | SkyFlash_ | -r :P |
| 09:59.16 | SkyFlash_ | i am afraid it's not really gonna work for englisch :P |
| 10:06.48 | SkyFlash_ | oh ya and i had to actually write a custom webserver in C# to get my LUA script displayed as a website.. how sad is that |
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| 10:12.23 | Daegalus | yar, linux |
| 10:12.37 | Daegalus | took a bit longer than i thought because of the stupid nVidia drivers |
| 10:14.26 | Daegalus | w00t installing 105 updates. will probably make me reboot again |
| 10:18.56 | lordneon | if your on linux... you wont need to reboot :p |
| 10:19.20 | Daegalus | not if it installs kernal, and a lot of subsystem updates |
| 10:19.26 | Daegalus | kernels* |
| 10:19.56 | lordneon | well if you manually patch the kernel :p |
| 10:20.31 | Daegalus | im using ubuntu, it did updates, its telling me to reobot, imma do it, even though i know it doesnt matter. |
| 10:20.46 | Daegalus | brb |
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| 10:26.21 | Daegalus | back |
| 10:27.21 | thanners_ | welcome back |
| 10:27.51 | Daegalus | time to install wine and cedega |
| 10:27.59 | Daegalus | and see if i can pirate crossover |
| 10:28.10 | thanners | heh |
| 10:28.32 | Daegalus | well i paid for Cedega, so im getting that one legally |
| 10:29.00 | thanners | I've got Crossover Games on my mac. if it gets to the point where it can run WAR passably, I'll be very happy. |
| 10:29.05 | thanners | not needing to reboot would be nice. |
| 10:29.16 | Daegalus | not needing to reboot? |
| 10:29.33 | thanners | into windows |
| 10:30.02 | thanners | of course, I'm still clearing space on my windows partition anyway.. |
| 10:30.14 | Daegalus | ah understood |
| 10:30.25 | Daegalus | and i just realized i forgot to mount my windows partition |
| 10:32.03 | thanners | oops |
| 10:34.17 | lordneon | runs all games based on the source engine fine |
| 10:34.22 | lordneon | eg tf2 \o/ |
| 10:34.51 | thanners | yep yep. |
| 10:35.01 | thanners | mmm. do you get any issues with the mouse? |
| 10:35.20 | lordneon | nope |
| 10:35.31 | thanners | this might just be a problem with mac crossover, then. |
| 10:36.33 | thanners | tf2 and portal work fairly nicely, but the mouse sensitivity becomes erratic in high graphical areas |
| 10:37.15 | thanners | but i'll take what i can get |
| 10:38.13 | Daegalus | so much for wine reading the game off my other partition -_- |
| 10:40.53 | thanners | mmph. |
| 10:41.44 | Daegalus | zomg cedega patched and tried to launch the game, but failed to launch it O.o |
| 10:41.50 | Daegalus | the patcher errored |
| 10:44.48 | thanners | sounds like a bit of a problem.. |
| 10:45.19 | Daegalus | cedega cant even launch WAR.exe |
| 10:45.21 | Daegalus | wine did |
| 10:45.23 | Daegalus | but errored |
| 10:45.26 | Daegalus | but i know how to fix it |
| 11:08.06 | Daegalus | this is gonna be harder than i though |
| 11:08.08 | Daegalus | thought* |
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| 11:44.55 | thanners | Okay, 40GB isn't a large enough Windows partition. |
| 11:46.17 | Daegalus | anyoen knwo where to pirate a Linux Crossover Games |
| 11:47.57 | thanners | no idea, sorry |
| 12:02.00 | thanners | no luck so far, I take it? |
| 12:11.49 | Daegalus | well Wine wont launch the patcher, but will launc hte game |
| 12:11.52 | Daegalus | cedega wont launch the game |
| 12:11.56 | Daegalus | but will launch the patcher |
| 12:12.14 | Daegalus | and Crossover doesnt want to run the Setup.exe because it cant find DX9 |
| 12:16.48 | thanners | very annoying |
| 12:18.47 | Daegalus | well i think i figured out the crossover problem |
| 12:18.51 | Daegalus | stupid hidden install files |
| 12:20.00 | `Zypher[2] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.07 | `Zypher[2] | Daegalus: patch in windows |
| 12:20.15 | `Zypher[2] | then open in linux |
| 12:20.18 | `Zypher[2] | pretty simple |
| 12:27.25 | Daegalus | no its not ht epatching thats hte problem |
| 12:27.30 | Daegalus | you need the patcher to launch the main game |
| 12:27.44 | Daegalus | since it wont authenticate without the patcher, and error out |
| 12:27.58 | Daegalus | CrossOver = 0 hope |
| 12:28.02 | Daegalus | going back to cedega/wine |
| 12:32.45 | thanners | Hey `Zypher[2], didn't mean to just vanish before. :P |
| 12:33.21 | Daegalus | omg |
| 12:33.25 | Daegalus | WINE = WIN!!!! |
| 12:33.31 | Daegalus | i got WAR to launch |
| 12:33.33 | Daegalus | show the intros |
| 12:33.45 | Daegalus | and error on no authentication, but i saw a quick glimpse of server select |
| 12:33.55 | Daegalus | we got progress peoples |
| 12:34.34 | thanners | nice one |
| 12:34.45 | thanners | require much fiddling? |
| 12:36.10 | Daegalus | nope |
| 12:36.19 | Daegalus | just need to install DX9 and Common Controls |
| 12:36.27 | Daegalus | through WineTricks or Wine-Doors |
| 12:36.54 | Daegalus | patcher still wont load though |
| 12:36.56 | Daegalus | somethings missing |
| 13:05.12 | Daegalus | patcher = semi-working if you set WINE to emulate desktop |
| 13:05.26 | Daegalus | but it crashes after BTA acceptance |
| 13:07.04 | Daegalus | heading back to windows |
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| 13:22.45 | lazarenth | hmmm... looking through the code for other addons, i see some people use the function d("string")... is that a short pversion of print() in the WAR API or is it something else entirely |
| 13:23.00 | Daegalus | d == DEBUG( |
| 13:23.07 | Daegalus | thats for debug messages |
| 13:23.33 | lazarenth | that was my second guess that it stood for debug :p do the debug messages show up somewhere in WAR |
| 13:23.34 | Daegalus | you can do d(SOMEVARIABLE.TABLE) an it will print out the contents of the table |
| 13:23.45 | Daegalus | ./debug |
| 13:23.48 | Daegalus | opens debug console |
| 13:23.54 | Daegalus | turn on logging |
| 13:23.57 | lazarenth | ah sweet didn't know that |
| 13:23.57 | Daegalus | and it will show there |
| 13:24.00 | lazarenth | thanks |
| 13:24.06 | Daegalus | mhmm |
| 13:24.19 | Daegalus | and with that, off to bed. 6 am here, and ive been up all night with the stupid linux project |
| 13:24.34 | lazarenth | good... morning? |
| 13:24.40 | lazarenth | :) |
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| 13:58.03 | SkyFlash_ | has anyone tested yet if its still possible to access parts of the login screen via lua? |
| 14:01.40 | SkyFlash_ | it should also be possible to create a window that looks like the login screen and put it on top of all other windows and have the user enter his account password, right? |
| 14:01.56 | SkyFlash_ | i wonder how many hacks are possible at the moment :P |
| 14:07.21 | tronned | What do you do for auto-login? |
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| 15:31.21 | Aii | morning |
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| 16:41.26 | Aii | Netcurse: ping |
| 16:41.35 | Netcurse | hi |
| 16:48.44 | `Zypher[2] | Aii: we lost :( |
| 16:49.21 | `Zypher[2] | im a sad panda |
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| 17:00.48 | `Zypher[2] | we lost 3-2 because our goalie decided he was going to be a lazy arse. |
| 17:01.46 | nicoli_s | were you the goalie? |
| 17:03.47 | `Zypher[2] | no |
| 17:03.50 | `Zypher[2] | I'm a defensemen |
| 17:05.02 | nicoli_s | has anyone see nthe movie renaissance before? |
| 17:12.36 | AckisWork | hockey? |
| 17:18.55 | `Zypher[2] | AckisWork: is a sport? |
| 17:19.20 | AckisWork | yes, but were you playing hockey? |
| 17:19.22 | AckisWork | :P |
| 17:19.55 | `Zypher[2] | AckisWork: yes |
| 17:20.03 | AckisWork | ahh cool :) |
| 17:20.08 | `Zypher[2] | I have a tournament this weekend in san jose |
| 17:20.46 | AckisWork | what level are you? |
| 17:22.00 | `Zypher[2] | amatuer |
| 17:22.02 | `Zypher[2] | AA |
| 17:22.48 | `Zypher[2] | :P |
| 17:22.51 | AckisWork | ahh further than I made it |
| 17:23.16 | `Zypher[2] | oh |
| 17:23.17 | `Zypher[2] | I' |
| 17:23.21 | `Zypher[2] | I'm 18 AA |
| 17:23.27 | `Zypher[2] | if you know what the age groups are then |
| 17:23.29 | `Zypher[2] | rofl |
| 17:23.41 | AckisWork | played 1 year of midget and then had to go to university |
| 17:23.42 | Netcurse | where do you live zypher |
| 17:23.53 | `Zypher[2] | Netcurse: east bay |
| 17:23.57 | Netcurse | ah |
| 17:24.05 | Netcurse | we are close, i live in sf |
| 17:24.10 | `Zypher[2] | AckisWork: yah, I don't plan on continuing playing |
| 17:24.33 | `Zypher[2] | Netcurse: I have a game tonite in Freemont at 7pm |
| 17:24.34 | `Zypher[2] | ;) |
| 17:24.47 | Netcurse | huhu |
| 17:25.39 | `Zypher | I'm setting up my server |
| 17:25.41 | `Zypher | :D |
| 17:26.36 | Repo | chatmod: 03solariz * r2 ChatMod.mod: Init Commit. |
| 17:28.00 | `Zypher | uh noes |
| 17:28.12 | `Zypher | :( |
| 17:28.18 | `Zypher | ohh Ace3 is up here |
| 17:28.19 | `Zypher | coolio |
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| 17:37.49 | lazarenth | hey, on curseforge where it tells me to pick a license, what is a good, uh, generic addon license? >_> |
| 17:41.35 | Aii | I use the MIT license for most things, some use GPL |
| 17:45.45 | Aii | you can just google the name of most of the licenses, or look them up on wikipedia |
| 17:46.40 | Chryso | MIT is good for addons |
| 17:46.48 | Chryso | GPL is good if you want to be able to make money too |
| 17:50.20 | Aii | http://war.curseforge.com/licenses/ has the legal texts of each |
| 17:50.32 | Aii | but wikipedia has better summaries of what the goobledegook actually means |
| 17:53.38 | `Zypher[2] | Aii: it all means death and mayhem |
| 17:53.38 | `Zypher[2] | imo |
| 17:54.27 | SkyFlash_ | i use GPL |
| 17:54.43 | SkyFlash_ | however i dont know MIT lol |
| 17:57.26 | Aii | MIT is basically |
| 17:57.41 | Aii | "you can use this, as long as you include this license file, and don't hold me responsible" |
| 17:57.47 | Aii | it's a permissive license |
| 17:58.17 | Aii | http://war.curseforge.com/licenses/4-mit-license/ very short |
| 18:00.39 | SkyFlash_ | i like GPL, as it means my code can't just be taken and sold for profit somewhere else without me having any idea about what they did with it |
| 18:01.25 | AckisWork | I modified MIT to basically add a clause in that if you do anything with this code you have to tell me about it |
| 18:01.55 | SkyFlash_ | ya thats good |
| 18:02.14 | AckisWork | http://wow.curseforge.com/licenses/30-mit-modified-for-ackis-w-notification/ |
| 18:02.21 | SkyFlash_ | well i do program lots of other software, for addons i couldnt care less actually |
| 18:02.37 | Aii | Meh. Since MIT requires you to distribute the license with it, I don't mind |
| 18:02.50 | Aii | since it basically makes it obvious that the software is free |
| 18:03.19 | SkyFlash_ | but I really would hate if someone builds up a closed source software with my code and sells it for profit |
| 18:03.40 | Aii | Well, for addons that's not really an issue |
| 18:03.46 | SkyFlash_ | ya... :P |
| 18:03.55 | Aii | and I was just speaking w.r.t. that :) |
| 18:04.13 | Aii | I agree with Chryso that MIT is good for addons |
| 18:04.17 | SkyFlash_ | well i use GPL for all my code, thats why i picked it there too |
| 18:04.21 | SkyFlash_ | :P |
| 18:04.26 | Aii | for regular software, yes, GPL and LGPL are what I'd prefer |
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| 20:52.05 | `Zypher[2] | Aii: I will still have your babies if you want. |
| 20:56.30 | Aii | but um |
| 20:56.55 | Aii | apparently you're not the only one: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1265001&postcount=18 |
| 20:59.00 | `Zypher[2] | orly |
| 20:59.03 | `Zypher[2] | im in irssi |
| 20:59.08 | `Zypher[2] | so I don't feel like copying |
| 21:02.42 | `Zypher[2] | he wants to give you a baby |
| 21:02.45 | `Zypher[2] | I want your baby. |
| 21:02.49 | `Zypher[2] | its different. |
| 21:04.42 | `Zypher[2] | ~whalepunt Aii |
| 21:04.42 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts Aii across the Solar System |
| 21:05.02 | `Zypher[2] | ~falconpunch Aii |
| 21:05.04 | `Zypher[2] | awww |
| 21:05.09 | `Zypher[2] | that would have been too awesome. |
| 21:15.30 | Daegalus | shouldnt you be the one getting a falcon punch? |
| 21:15.35 | Daegalus | ~whalepunch Zypher |
| 21:28.11 | Freddy09 | If I hide a frame that another is anchored to, will it hide both of them? |
| 21:28.55 | Daegalus | i believe yes. but not 100% sure |
| 21:29.10 | Freddy09 | all right, thanks |
| 21:29.16 | Freddy09 | I'ma just try it anways |
| 21:29.20 | Freddy09 | don't wanna mass listeners |
| 21:29.20 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:29.39 | Freddy09 | now to wait a week for OB :(( |
| 21:30.08 | Freddy09 | there's like 5 ppl complaining that my auto harvest is a bot, so I'ma add a button you have to click to replant |
| 21:30.14 | Freddy09 | lol |
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| 21:31.40 | `Zypher[2] | Netcurse__: sbc sucks I know! |
| 21:33.45 | Repo | aharv: 03freddy0909 041.01 * r5 : |
| 21:33.46 | Repo | The addon will no longer bot for you, due to complaints, now there is a button that you will click to replant the last harvested seed. |
| 21:33.58 | Freddy09 | ahmigawd i remembered how to do it |
| 21:33.58 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:39.58 | Aii | I've updated http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Addon_Format extensively |
| 21:41.31 | Freddy09 | gon go check it out aii |
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| 21:42.25 | Freddy09 | font size si really small on some of those parts |
| 21:42.59 | smcn | aii: hmm, you don't have to specify "source/AddonName.lua" for files? |
| 21:43.24 | Freddy09 | name="Sources\MyFile.Lua" |
| 21:43.30 | Freddy09 | If you have a Sources folder that contains your Lua files, you'd use name="Sources\MyFile.Lua" or similar. |
| 21:43.31 | Freddy09 | there |
| 21:44.36 | `Zypher[2] | Aii: nice |
| 21:44.48 | `Zypher[2] | Aii: I see my folder / document icons remained! |
| 21:45.20 | smcn | yeah but the mod file section next to the addon folder structure just said name="AddonName.lua" even though it was in the sources folder in the folder structure :P i fixed it |
| 21:45.47 | Freddy09 | imo source folder makes me cry |
| 21:45.48 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 21:46.16 | smcn | lil bit |
| 21:47.04 | smcn | but it's practically irrelevant except to the author |
| 21:47.28 | Freddy09 | exactly |
| 21:47.28 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 21:47.38 | `Zypher[2] | "At the time of his life, a Capitalist with a Communist wife." |
| 21:50.37 | `Zypher[2] | holly cow |
| 21:50.45 | `Zypher[2] | how did I not know about Skreemr |
| 21:50.46 | `Zypher[2] | wtf |
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| 22:15.08 | Aii | Kaelten: is there a reason the Player's Guide is posted as an addon/CF project? |
| 22:15.13 | *** join/#waruidev SkyFlash__ (n=SkyFlash@tmo-125-2.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 22:15.56 | *** join/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-073-096-017.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:16.02 | *** part/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-073-096-017.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:16.11 | Kaelten | um, no idea |
| 22:16.37 | Aii | doesnt seem like something that should be getting pushed to things like, say, the Curse Client |
| 22:17.29 | *** join/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-073-096-017.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:17.35 | smcn | it already comes with the game though eh? |
| 22:18.24 | Aii | yes |
| 22:18.30 | Aii | I think Zyuu just wanted somewhere to host it |
| 22:18.39 | Aii | though CF isnt really the best choice :| |
| 22:19.00 | Kaelten | well Aii, you're a moderator, and one of our leads on war, take care of it :) |
| 22:19.35 | Aii | well I'm not sure if that location is linked to from somewhere on WHA or the like |
| 22:19.42 | Aii | I don't really want to break the link if it is |
| 22:20.00 | Kaelten | if they're doing deep linking deleting the project won't break the link |
| 22:20.18 | Aii | k |
| 22:20.59 | `Zypher[2] | I think Kaelten wants me. |
| 22:21.07 | Aii | hrm... i don't see a way to delete though Kaelten |
| 22:21.14 | Aii | I can edit it, so I'm obviously logged in |
| 22:21.20 | Aii | but can't delete it so far as I can see |
| 22:24.00 | Aii | also, Kaelten ... what's our stance on http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/elaunch/ ? It'd basically requiring running an executable, and isn't really an addon per se.. |
| 22:24.17 | *** join/#waruidev SkyFlash_ (n=SkyFlash@tmo-125-2.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 22:24.47 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 22:24.52 | Kaelten | did he upload the source? |
| 22:25.06 | Aii | checking |
| 22:25.13 | Aii | but i think it's just an installer |
| 22:25.35 | Aii | its also freaking 7mb, just for a launcher... |
| 22:26.11 | Aii | yeah, just a .exe installer |
| 22:27.20 | Daegalus | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67557 |
| 22:27.36 | Aii | seen it, Daegalus |
| 22:27.52 | Daegalus | just posting for those that haven |
| 22:28.06 | Aii | its on the front page of WHA :P |
| 22:29.07 | Kaelten | my opinion is that for exe's we should require that the source be either hosted on the repo or uploaded. |
| 22:29.11 | Kaelten | and subsequently reviewed |
| 22:29.20 | Daegalus | i know but most people arent on the forum. :P |
| 22:29.32 | Kaelten | its about the only way to make it safe |
| 22:35.50 | *** join/#waruidev Skyflash (n=Skyflash@tmo-125-2.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 22:36.28 | Skyflash | Aiiane, i wrote a reply to your post... some of the stuff you mentioned is done in my addon already |
| 22:36.44 | Skyflash | like retargetting and class coloring |
| 22:38.22 | Skyflash | and don't give every class a color, it does not work, i tried it :P |
| 22:38.45 | Skyflash | and melee healers should be distinguishable from other healers |
| 22:41.34 | Aii | class coloring is already done in my addon as well |
| 22:42.33 | tronned | I've done per career coloring as well in my mods (i prefer it) |
| 22:46.38 | Skyflash | ah cool so which colors did you choose now? |
| 22:48.28 | Skyflash | well i am a healer, and a color for every career is slowing me down a lot |
| 22:48.36 | Freddy09 | How do i remove files from a project? |
| 22:49.23 | Skyflash | from svn? |
| 22:49.31 | Freddy09 | i guess so |
| 22:49.50 | Skyflash | my svn client does it :P |
| 22:50.00 | Skyflash | i click the file, then choose remove :P |
| 22:50.19 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:50.20 | Freddy09 | well |
| 22:50.21 | Freddy09 | i mean |
| 22:50.22 | Freddy09 | from the dl page |
| 22:50.25 | tronned | I'm a healer too, does not really bother me. Although, I can see your point of skipping over a while archetype color for heals (ie., healers) lol |
| 22:50.43 | Freddy09 | sky: as in remove it from available downlaods |
| 22:51.06 | Freddy09 | s/downlaods/downloads/ |
| 22:51.07 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 22:51.11 | tronned | Sky: These are the colors I ended up with: http://antipersonnel.org/media/images/storage/080815-careercolors.jpg |
| 22:51.25 | Skyflash | oh.. releases you mean? no clue i am in alpha *g* |
| 22:51.25 | Freddy09 | lol tronned |
| 22:51.35 | Freddy09 | it's gon be so hard memorizing all of those |
| 22:51.38 | Skyflash | tronned i saw yours... they are my nightmare :P |
| 22:52.27 | Skyflash | first thing after download Id change the colors *g* |
| 22:52.35 | tronned | well, that's expected |
| 22:52.49 | Skyflash | like... i mainly heal healers and tanks.. |
| 22:52.54 | tronned | it's a default option onry, i would never force it on users |
| 22:53.02 | Skyflash | now... they dont even have colors that are closely the same :P |
| 22:53.12 | tronned | They are not supposed to |
| 22:53.16 | tronned | What career do you play? |
| 22:53.19 | Aii | Freddy09: go to your CF project page, click tthe file, file actions -> edit file |
| 22:53.27 | Aii | or might be a delete option right there |
| 22:53.34 | Freddy09 | hmm |
| 22:53.34 | Skyflash | shaman mostly... and disciple i guess |
| 22:53.35 | Freddy09 | will go check |
| 22:53.43 | tronned | Ah, I play a DoK too |
| 22:53.55 | Freddy09 | file actions |
| 22:53.55 | Freddy09 | wow |
| 22:53.56 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:54.01 | Freddy09 | i check every page but this :) |
| 22:54.04 | Freddy09 | k thanks aii |
| 22:54.12 | Skyflash | it also will be almost impossible to see if its a shaman or a blackorc |
| 22:54.16 | tronned | I roll around with MDPS and heal them, let the shammies and z's heal bomb tanks |
| 22:54.20 | Skyflash | unless you have both in your party |
| 22:55.23 | Skyflash | if there is no comparison you cant say if its light green or darker |
| 22:55.46 | tronned | Like I said, it's personal preference (which most mods are anyways), but allowing customization is the best practice. |
| 22:55.48 | Daegalus | I say we color by archetype. Tank, Melee DPS, Ranged DPS, Ranged Healer, Melee Healer. THen have an Icon next to their name of their class. |
| 22:55.59 | Skyflash | yup |
| 22:56.07 | tronned | that would be ideal, certainly |
| 22:56.13 | Skyflash | i did healers white, melee healers darker white |
| 22:56.19 | Skyflash | melee dps yellow |
| 22:56.23 | Skyflash | tanks brown |
| 22:56.23 | tronned | as soon as it's available, imma stick a career icon wherever possible |
| 22:56.29 | Skyflash | ranged dps blue |
| 22:56.51 | Skyflash | people are used to those colors so it comes naturally |
| 22:56.59 | Skyflash | :P |
| 22:57.07 | Daegalus | wouldnt darker white just be grey? |
| 22:57.18 | tronned | it would be off-white ;) |
| 22:57.32 | Skyflash | ya light gray :P |
| 22:57.46 | Skyflash | just so that you can see it if you have both :P |
| 22:58.04 | Skyflash | so i can let the disciple die *g* |
| 22:58.08 | tronned | Got any screens of HealGrid? |
| 22:58.10 | tronned | NU |
| 22:58.17 | Skyflash | ya its on curseforge |
| 22:58.24 | tronned | What's your Shaman's name, Sky? |
| 22:58.31 | Skyflash | dunno yet |
| 22:58.35 | Skyflash | i was named Scay |
| 22:58.43 | Skyflash | but i guess i make something else |
| 22:58.45 | Skyflash | like.. |
| 22:58.59 | Skyflash | like.. Bonebreaka.. *g* |
| 22:59.29 | tronned | ok, no heals to anyone named Scay ;) or BoneBreaka ._. |
| 22:59.35 | Skyflash | *g* |
| 22:59.47 | Skyflash | sorry disciples are not so useful :P |
| 22:59.53 | tronned | My DoK was named Pomegranate |
| 22:59.58 | Skyflash | haha |
| 23:00.03 | tronned | depends on the DoK |
| 23:00.14 | Skyflash | no, the healing just sucks :P |
| 23:00.32 | Skyflash | i kinda consider doks to be dds |
| 23:00.42 | tronned | because a butterfly sneezing can interrupt Rend Soul |
| 23:00.54 | tronned | so, in a focus, DoKs are completely negated |
| 23:01.04 | Skyflash | yup |
| 23:01.29 | Skyflash | plus, they suck compared to melees |
| 23:01.39 | tronned | did you use the default tool tips system to generate your tool tips? |
| 23:02.08 | Skyflash | yes... was a hack mostly |
| 23:02.36 | tronned | nm, i see it |
| 23:03.28 | Skyflash | works fine though |
| 23:03.45 | tronned | No reason why it shouldn't |
| 23:03.53 | tronned | I like it (HealGrid) though |
| 23:04.06 | tronned | need a DeadGrid, but alas, WTB range function |
| 23:04.44 | Skyflash | ya |
| 23:04.53 | Skyflash | well my addon will tell you who you can target |
| 23:05.05 | Skyflash | but not if he is in range or sight for a spell |
| 23:05.43 | `Zypher[2] | orly |
| 23:06.12 | Skyflash | Aiiane how long til your unitframes et released? they look really nice |
| 23:08.43 | Aii | Um |
| 23:08.51 | Aii | Player+Group are usable in their current state |
| 23:08.57 | Daegalus | If you guys think DoK healing sucks, you guys havent played a DoK |
| 23:09.01 | Skyflash | *waiting* |
| 23:09.22 | tronned | I've played a DoK since last August ;) |
| 23:09.23 | Daegalus | unless you speced Torture |
| 23:09.33 | Daegalus | then i would agree with shitty heals |
| 23:09.38 | Skyflash | dok healing does not suck, its just way worse than shaman and zealot healing :P |
| 23:09.39 | tronned | I've always said they need splash healing for almost every action |
| 23:09.52 | Daegalus | Sacrifice spec and Dark Rites speced docks can blow some big numbers |
| 23:10.18 | Skyflash | Aii but you did not release yet did you?? |
| 23:10.21 | Daegalus | Skyflash: yes but you get the luxury of sitting very far back. |
| 23:10.21 | tronned | Sac is my fav tree |
| 23:10.31 | Daegalus | Sacrifice is like a shadow priest on steroids |
| 23:10.41 | Skyflash | i didnt see your addon yet |
| 23:10.48 | tronned | Yeah, I wish more DoK channels could be done on the run |
| 23:10.50 | Daegalus | decent healing with decent damage |
| 23:10.57 | Daegalus | ya |
| 23:11.25 | Daegalus | I know a 19/0/6 DR DoK that did 377,000 healing at rank 31 |
| 23:11.25 | tronned | they are supposed to be a mobile healer, if their group is not getting heals, it should be the DoKs fault, not the groups |
| 23:11.29 | Aii | Skyflash: The project is there, it just doesn't have any built releases yet because I haven't tagged it. |
| 23:11.41 | Skyflash | ah cool whats the name? |
| 23:11.46 | Aii | I want to verify it works with the next build before I push it out. |
| 23:11.51 | Skyflash | ya sure |
| 23:12.06 | Aii | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/cleanunitframes/ |
| 23:12.18 | Skyflash | very cool |
| 23:12.19 | Skyflash | thx |
| 23:13.12 | Daegalus | zomgs. Ace3 |
| 23:13.45 | Netcurse__ | http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?p=167#post167 |
| 23:14.05 | smcn | Were sorry, youve attempted to access a page that doesnt exist. |
| 23:14.05 | smcn | If you find this message to be in error please notify the administrators. |
| 23:14.14 | smcn | aii^ |
| 23:14.15 | smcn | :P |
| 23:14.55 | tronned | I always liked the combat text from Rappelz |
| 23:15.15 | Aii | smcn: Project pages aren't available until they have at least one file |
| 23:15.34 | Aii | I don't remember whether I made a ticket about that or not |
| 23:16.32 | Netcurse__ | i see it:> |
| 23:16.45 | smcn | ~fail smcn |
| 23:16.46 | purl | You suck at everything in life, smcn. I hate you because you fail. |
| 23:17.03 | smcn | _/wrist |
| 23:17.06 | Netcurse__ | CleanUnitFrames is a replacement for the standard EA unit frames for WAR. It attempts to provide the useful data in a streamlined format, while getting rid of some of the "fluff" or other annoying things in the default UI. |
| 23:17.29 | Skyflash | the whole default UI is annoying *g* |
| 23:18.03 | tronned | Break out the Open Party button, if you haven't ;) |
| 23:19.50 | Daegalus | has anyone figured out how to play sound files? |
| 23:20.06 | Skyflash | yes no |
| 23:20.14 | Skyflash | my addon is playing sound files.. |
| 23:20.23 | Skyflash | however just the standard sounds can be played |
| 23:20.26 | Skyflash | and they suck |
| 23:20.42 | Skyflash | so no external sounds, no |
| 23:21.03 | Daegalus | aww =\ like 0 support for external sound? or its in, but doesnt work |
| 23:21.11 | Skyflash | its possible that you cant do it... i didnt find any |
| 23:21.30 | Skyflash | i searched for exposed sound functions, to no avail |
| 23:21.34 | tronned | My wife got out early from work, and went to have a couple drinks with some friends. We were supposed have dinner at 4:30, and I have not heard from her since 4. |
| 23:21.41 | tronned | I bet she's drunk. |
| 23:21.45 | Skyflash | lol |
| 23:21.54 | Aii | Skyflash: if you're just trying to figure out whether something is targetable |
| 23:21.58 | Aii | why are you actually changing the target |
| 23:22.09 | tronned | I'm so going to get lucky, lol |
| 23:22.42 | Skyflash | well i was preparing for the spell check, thats what i was going to do |
| 23:22.50 | Skyflash | i just failed *g* |
| 23:23.33 | Daegalus | cause i was tempted to make that Quake Sound effects addon |
| 23:23.47 | Daegalus | like Double Kill, Triple Kill, Rampage, Dominating, and son on |
| 23:24.00 | Skyflash | ya :P looks bad though |
| 23:24.40 | tronned | I thought those came from Unreal Tournament? |
| 23:24.54 | Daegalus | Me too, but apparently they came from Quake |
| 23:25.46 | Skyflash | Aii last time i was working on the addon i was reading through those actionbar scripts |
| 23:26.12 | Skyflash | and i was trying to rotate targets and cast the shaman heal spell |
| 23:26.31 | Skyflash | but it did not work, cause i did not fully understand the slot system |
| 23:27.37 | lazarenth | i loved unreal tournament... too bad i sucked |
| 23:27.47 | Skyflash | haha |
| 23:27.53 | Aii | I was actually pretty good at unreal tournament >.> |
| 23:28.07 | Aii | I still miss the original UT sniper rifle |
| 23:29.05 | Daegalus | I loved UT also. Was the only FPS game i was actually great at. I loved how fast paced it was. I started playing in UT2003 if i remember right |
| 23:29.32 | Aii | lol |
| 23:29.38 | Aii | I actually sort of prefer the original :x |
| 23:29.59 | Aii | (if anything, the original was even faster-paced) |
| 23:30.00 | tronned | I started my FPS career on Duke Nukem ._. |
| 23:30.04 | rizzen | ut99 > |
| 23:30.14 | Skyflash | ya me too duke nukem |
| 23:30.19 | Aii | tronned: try Wolfenstein 3d |
| 23:30.19 | Skyflash | i was really good |
| 23:30.37 | Skyflash | i didnt like wolfenstein, played it only once :P |
| 23:30.37 | tronned | I did Wolfenstein 3D too |
| 23:30.45 | tronned | but playing with your dad does not really count :p |
| 23:30.54 | rizzen | rtcw > * |
| 23:31.07 | Skyflash | that was better |
| 23:31.19 | rizzen | best* |
| 23:31.27 | Skyflash | but i still did not like it, you couldnt shoot americans.... |
| 23:31.36 | Skyflash | *g* |
| 23:31.50 | rizzen | let me rephrase |
| 23:31.52 | Daegalus | well UT2003 was my first FPS, i was an RPG person soley before that |
| 23:31.53 | rizzen | rtcw mp > * |
| 23:32.02 | Daegalus | and I still prefer UT2003 over 04 and UT3 |
| 23:32.19 | Aii | ~lart Skyflash |
| 23:32.19 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Skyflash |
| 23:32.28 | rizzen | i prefer quake 3 over all unreal tournies cept for 99 |
| 23:32.32 | Aii | heading home |
| 23:32.35 | Skyflash | lol... |
| 23:32.38 | tronned | later Aii |
| 23:32.40 | Daegalus | ok guys, brb, booting into Ubuntu to continue working on getting WAR running on Linux. Im so fucking close. |
| 23:32.47 | rizzen | good luck |
| 23:32.54 | rizzen | let me know how that goes |
| 23:33.00 | rizzen | my laptop will be very happy |
| 23:33.03 | Daegalus | well i got the game to boot, but the patcher bdoesnt |
| 23:33.12 | Daegalus | i mean the patcher works half-assed |
| 23:33.17 | Daegalus | it crashes after the BTA acceptance |
| 23:33.29 | Daegalus | so you cant launch the game with proper authentication. SO the game is usesless ill then |
| 23:33.53 | Daegalus | the game loads though. I got past the loading screen to the point where it errors for no login info and shows server select and all that jazz |
| 23:33.56 | Daegalus | anyways, brb |
| 23:34.35 | tronned | Question, how would intelligently lay out unit information in a tooltip? (not the current implementation) |
| 23:34.39 | tronned | *would you |
| 23:35.06 | Skyflash | what for tronned-Ã |
| 23:35.09 | Skyflash | ? |
| 23:35.33 | tronned | mousing over a friendly / not-so-friendly unit |
| 23:36.00 | Skyflash | depends on the purpose |
| 23:36.14 | Skyflash | i need nothing but class and level and position |
| 23:36.45 | tronned | position? like zone? |
| 23:36.48 | Skyflash | yes |
| 23:37.01 | Skyflash | problem is, you dont know it :P |
| 23:37.11 | Skyflash | pewpew will soon have a solution for that |
| 23:37.15 | tronned | for friendlies? |
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| 23:37.34 | Skyflash | yes |
| 23:37.58 | tronned | are you talking about mousing over friendlies in unit frames? or in the world/on-screen? |
| 23:38.01 | Daegalus | w00t, ok, time to do this with a fresh head on me. I was doing this at liek 4-6 am this morning the first tme. Had to restart like 5 times |
| 23:38.21 | Skyflash | i tried getting the zones from target info |
| 23:38.30 | tronned | not gonna work |
| 23:38.39 | Skyflash | yup |
| 23:39.05 | Skyflash | well you know if he is in your zone |
| 23:39.15 | tronned | so you prefer just Name+Career+Level(+Zone for friendly unit frames) |
| 23:39.37 | Skyflash | yup... all i need personally |
| 23:39.40 | rizzen | hah |
| 23:39.46 | rizzen | darkfall online beta sign ups lol |
| 23:40.17 | tronned | like [Pomegranate] [37] [Disciple of Khaine] [Dragonwake] (but in rows) |
| 23:40.27 | Skyflash | tronned: i scanned all the info i can get and picked those for healgrid tooltips |
| 23:40.41 | Skyflash | the rest was not so useful... well i did implement group loader |
| 23:40.44 | Skyflash | leader :P |
| 23:40.54 | tronned | Yeah, but you're scanning from group data? |
| 23:41.10 | Aiiane | IMO.. either do a one-liner [classicon name level] |
| 23:41.16 | Skyflash | i think i tried both |
| 23:41.22 | Aiiane | or do a two-liner |
| 23:41.24 | Skyflash | what other info did you find? |
| 23:41.27 | Aiiane | [name level] [class] |
| 23:41.42 | tronned | [name] [level] [class] |
| 23:41.49 | tronned | oh, you said that XD |
| 23:42.07 | Aiiane | name and level on the same line |
| 23:42.12 | tronned | oh |
| 23:42.15 | Aiiane | no reason to have a line just for level |
| 23:42.23 | Aiiane | my brackets are for lines |
| 23:42.25 | Skyflash | tronned you got other info that is useful? |
| 23:42.29 | Aiiane | so i dont have to type multiple ones |
| 23:42.55 | tronned | [Pomegranate (37)] [Disciple of Khaine] or no parens |
| 23:43.00 | Aiiane | SkyFlash: you could show RvR status |
| 23:43.10 | Aiiane | tronned: depends on whether the level is a different color or not |
| 23:43.14 | Skyflash | rvr.. ya well i play on openrvr lol |
| 23:43.20 | tronned | sky: I'm talking just about mouse over target stuff, not party/warband frames |
| 23:43.49 | Aiiane | you can't get class for mouseovertarget, unless you cache it |
| 23:43.50 | Daegalus | Skyflash: but others dont, maybe make a setting for it |
| 23:43.56 | Skyflash | yup |
| 23:44.10 | Daegalus | and good luck on Open RVR |
| 23:44.49 | tronned | you can get it without caching i'm sure, but only for friendlies |
| 23:45.06 | Aiiane | tronned: only in a hackish manner |
| 23:45.06 | tronned | for enemies, you're right. i prefer not to cache though. |
| 23:45.08 | Aiiane | you'd have to do a /who |
| 23:45.11 | Aiiane | on that name |
| 23:45.18 | Aiiane | and then parse the chat log to get the result |
| 23:45.18 | tronned | yeah, something like that |
| 23:45.33 | Aiiane | which would also show the /who to the player |
| 23:45.35 | Aiiane | undesirable |
| 23:46.03 | tronned | exactly, i think i can find another way |
| 23:47.05 | Aiiane | like what? |
| 23:47.39 | tronned | i don't know, lol. i have faith though ;) |
| 23:49.01 | tronned | Can't test anything anyways, for obvious reasons :( |
| 23:49.28 | Aiiane | tronned: Well, from someone who a) has been testing and b) has the source code to the default UI... good luck |
| 23:50.43 | tronned | thanks, I'll need it ^_^ |
| 23:51.16 | lazarenth | i have been wondering, does aii = aiiane? or are they different people >_> |
| 23:51.22 | Daegalus | same people |
| 23:51.25 | Daegalus | person* |
| 23:51.32 | lazarenth | ok :P |
| 23:51.59 | Daegalus | and Zypher wants her babies O.o |
| 23:55.47 | Aiiane | er, yeah, about that... |
| 23:56.40 | *** join/#waruidev lazarenth_ (n=chatzill@CPE-72-131-57-142.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 23:58.35 | tronned | How long have you been testing? |
