| 00:01.19 | Daegalus | god damn |
| 00:01.33 | Daegalus | my guild is now also going through hte "Should we roll Order or Destruction" thing |
| 00:01.37 | Daegalus | we were destruction |
| 00:01.43 | Daegalus | but people liked order classes |
| 00:02.12 | Aiiane | which order classes |
| 00:04.54 | Daegalus | Engineer for one, White Lion for the other, Shadow Warrior, Ironbreaker, Bright Wizard, Witch Hunter |
| 00:04.58 | Daegalus | just like |
| 00:05.02 | Daegalus | everyones ont eh fence now |
| 00:05.05 | Daegalus | even me |
| 00:05.18 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:05.21 | Daegalus | Im love the disicple, but i would also enjoy playing an AM |
| 00:05.27 | Freddy09 | i was des before the weekend too |
| 00:05.33 | nicoli_s | haha -> http://www.mmo-tools.com/wardev/doku.php?id=myp_extractor |
| 00:05.36 | Freddy09 | then i spent yesterday convincing my friends to swatp |
| 00:05.37 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 00:05.42 | Freddy09 | that doesn't give names nicoli |
| 00:05.49 | Freddy09 | least i don't think so |
| 00:05.53 | Daegalus | just now i prefer to go Destruction, cause i think they will be the underdog now |
| 00:06.14 | Aiiane | honestly, id just roll whichever race has classes that appeal to you more |
| 00:06.27 | Aiiane | dont bother trying to predict which realm will be the under/top dog |
| 00:06.30 | Daegalus | ya i know, but thats the problem, the entire guild is on the fence |
| 00:06.37 | Aiiane | random.org ? |
| 00:06.42 | Freddy09 | so push them back to your side |
| 00:06.43 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 00:07.29 | Daegalus | we are having guild debates right now |
| 00:07.35 | Daegalus | and i need to see what my GF says |
| 00:07.41 | Daegalus | cause she had her heart set on Witch Elf |
| 00:08.48 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 00:08.51 | Freddy09 | sounds like agood idea |
| 00:10.24 | nicoli_s | it doesn't |
| 00:10.31 | nicoli_s | no public myp extractor will |
| 00:10.46 | nicoli_s | cuz no one wants to give up the filename dictionary they worked hard on |
| 00:11.25 | nicoli_s | man i could never get my gf to play a fantasy type game |
| 00:12.35 | nicoli_s | but she plays the wii so thats better than nothing |
| 00:14.47 | `Zypher | Daegalus: i play a we |
| 00:14.51 | `Zypher | they are the funziez |
| 00:14.58 | haha | have her try Lineage 2, or EverQuest 2, they dig the beautiful character games |
| 00:15.31 | Daegalus | Nicoli_s: get her Wii Fit, and then get her to get into some tight workout clothes. then just watch.... |
| 00:16.02 | `Zypher | Daegalus: thats terrible, everyone knows that youtube video was a farse |
| 00:16.14 | Daegalus | not really |
| 00:16.16 | Daegalus | my gf does it |
| 00:16.20 | Daegalus | every morning |
| 00:16.33 | `Zypher | hoola hoop? |
| 00:16.34 | Daegalus | she doesnt change from what she sleeps in |
| 00:16.41 | Daegalus | and she sleeps in teh buff |
| 00:16.46 | `Zypher | so hopefully nothing? |
| 00:16.49 | `Zypher | lol |
| 00:16.52 | Daegalus | sooooooo |
| 00:17.56 | Daegalus | she doesnt care either. so its fine. though i sleep in the buff too, so its not like its only one way |
| 00:18.56 | `Zypher | in the buff |
| 00:18.58 | `Zypher | who says that? |
| 00:23.04 | `Zypher | Daegalus: rawrblam |
| 00:23.28 | Daegalus | i do |
| 00:24.56 | `Zypher | wierd shit. |
| 00:59.56 | Daegalus | so can i get a purl for hte biggest weirdo in this channel? |
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| 01:04.55 | pewpewarrows | `Zypher, didn't you say there were some command line options for starting war? |
| 01:05.19 | `Zypher | none that work |
| 01:05.24 | `Zypher | --accntname= |
| 01:05.25 | `Zypher | and |
| 01:05.30 | `Zypher | --authtoken= |
| 01:05.34 | `Zypher | are the only two that work |
| 01:05.37 | pewpewarrows | no -opengl ? |
| 01:05.39 | pewpewarrows | :P |
| 01:05.42 | `Zypher | no |
| 01:05.44 | `Zypher | no opengl |
| 01:06.14 | pewpewarrows | bah |
| 01:06.22 | pewpewarrows | I'm trying to get it to run in wine right now |
| 01:07.33 | Daegalus | lol, reason there is no OPenGL is cause they didnt have any non-dx targets |
| 01:07.36 | Daegalus | whiel WoW did |
| 01:07.45 | Daegalus | pewpew, try cedega |
| 01:09.46 | Daegalus | Regarding the API for plugins, this close to release, why has there been no documentation or real discussion among testers? |
| 01:09.48 | Daegalus | Josh Drescher: Because we don't feel the need to release that documentation. |
| 01:09.49 | Daegalus | wow |
| 01:09.57 | Daegalus | talk about a kick in teh ass to modders |
| 01:09.57 | pewpewarrows | ... |
| 01:10.01 | pewpewarrows | yeah really |
| 01:10.13 | pewpewarrows | and good suggestion, I'll try cedega |
| 01:10.26 | Daegalus | its not free though, so you might have to pirate it |
| 01:10.37 | Daegalus | or convince me to give you a working copy from my member center |
| 01:10.41 | pewpewarrows | I have it already |
| 01:10.46 | Daegalus | ok |
| 01:10.48 | Daegalus | lol |
| 01:10.56 | Daegalus | most people dont feel the need to pay for it |
| 01:11.00 | Daegalus | so i thought id say that |
| 01:11.18 | pewpewarrows | I got it for free while doing a research project |
| 01:11.20 | pewpewarrows | so win/win |
| 01:11.21 | pewpewarrows | :P |
| 01:11.36 | Daegalus | oh nice |
| 01:11.41 | Aiiane | Daegalus: where were you quoting from? |
| 01:11.50 | Daegalus | WHA front page |
| 01:12.04 | Daegalus | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63643 |
| 01:12.57 | Aiiane | yes, i see |
| 01:13.37 | Daegalus | pretty much he says "Modders will have to work for it, by figuring it out on their own" |
| 01:13.40 | pewpewarrows | that sounds like a very harsh statement |
| 01:17.07 | nicoli_s | indeed |
| 01:18.31 | Aiiane | although on the other hand, with the amount of information we already have gotten on our own the statement is sort of true >.> they dont really need to release documentation at this point, although it'd be /nice/ and save us some effort |
| 01:18.53 | `Zypher | get what for free? |
| 01:19.06 | Daegalus | ya, but also we dont know a lot of things, like what access will be cut. Liskt stuff we are doing now, some functions might be locked later, and break lots of stuff |
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| 01:20.05 | pewpewarrows | perhaps they're bitter about public knowledge of the interface and api before open beta even began? |
| 01:20.42 | nicoli_s | oh well, they ahd to know people were working on it |
| 01:20.50 | nicoli_s | at least we didnt release a full extractor |
| 01:20.59 | nicoli_s | then people could see all the bugs in their interface :P |
| 01:22.27 | pewpewarrows | :P |
| 01:22.56 | `Zypher | cedega |
| 01:22.59 | `Zypher | I bought it |
| 01:23.04 | `Zypher | and then wine got better |
| 01:23.05 | `Zypher | :| |
| 01:24.04 | Aiiane | Daegalus: if stuff breaks, it breaks |
| 01:24.19 | `Zypher | and we figure out how to fix it! |
| 01:24.31 | `Zypher | ckknight: has mythic sent you guys anything about the addons? |
| 01:24.33 | Daegalus | Aiiane: true, it just sucks |
| 01:25.05 | ckknight | nope, `Zypher |
| 01:25.15 | `Zypher | and nothing about the wiki either |
| 01:25.23 | `Zypher | I don't think they could be that angry then |
| 01:27.31 | smcn | "we don't feel the need to release that documentation" could mean "we don't have documentation" ;P |
| 01:27.55 | ckknight | likely |
| 01:28.16 | smcn | or if they do, the documentation involves too much of the c stuff and they don't want to parse through and remove it |
| 01:36.52 | Aiiane | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1212523&postcount=9 this person's sig makes me cry. |
| 01:38.29 | ckknight | whose messiah is this? |
| 01:38.31 | ckknight | Varishna? |
| 01:46.23 | Daegalus | gah i wanna remember the recipe for Zombie hands |
| 01:46.28 | Daegalus | it was an apothecary recipe |
| 01:46.39 | Daegalus | it made 1 hand per craft, and if you equip both |
| 01:46.45 | Daegalus | it will make your character walk like a zomibe |
| 01:47.45 | Daegalus | t involved a scavenging item as the main ingredient |
| 01:55.56 | `Zypher | Aiiane: its alright we all want to cry sometimes. |
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| 02:03.02 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 02:03.45 | `Zypher | wb ckknight |
| 02:04.09 | Aiiane | so ckknight, was I not quick enough for you? :P |
| 02:04.17 | `Zypher | o.o |
| 02:04.22 | ckknight | Aiiane: nope |
| 02:04.33 | `Zypher | Aiiane: quick like what? |
| 02:04.46 | Aiiane | 04[18:51] Aiiane: 01check the packager log |
| 02:04.47 | Aiiane | 04[18:51] Aiiane: 01qid definitely didn't package right |
| 02:05.03 | `Zypher | I see |
| 02:05.06 | Aiiane | git's giving errors about needing a merge, ckknight |
| 02:05.10 | `Zypher | nothing worthy of my time. |
| 02:05.11 | ckknight | that's a fucked up case anyway |
| 02:05.15 | Aiiane | so the files that got packaged all have diff tags :P |
| 02:06.13 | `Zypher | ckknight: I can't believe you approved MyPad as an addon name |
| 02:06.14 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 02:06.22 | ckknight | I didn't approve it |
| 02:06.25 | `Zypher | oh |
| 02:06.26 | `Zypher | who did |
| 02:06.32 | ckknight | link to project? |
| 02:06.33 | `Zypher | does it automatically? |
| 02:06.39 | `Zypher | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/mypad/ |
| 02:06.41 | ckknight | no, nothing is approved automatically |
| 02:06.44 | `Zypher | its mine |
| 02:06.51 | `Zypher | I just wanted to see if it would go through |
| 02:07.00 | ckknight | Ackis approved it |
| 02:07.03 | `Zypher | hahaa |
| 02:07.11 | `Zypher | Ackis: fail less hard :P |
| 02:07.45 | `Zypher | you could change the name if you want |
| 02:07.48 | `Zypher | pick something witty |
| 02:08.25 | smcn | YourPad |
| 02:08.43 | `Zypher | that would have been even better |
| 02:08.55 | `Zypher | I thought people would have picked up on MyPad when I commited it |
| 02:08.59 | `Zypher | but guess not |
| 02:09.00 | `Zypher | lol |
| 02:11.38 | `Zypher | I think MaxiPad would be the ultimate |
| 02:11.39 | `Zypher | :P |
| 02:12.11 | smcn | what is the font used in lolcats |
| 02:12.43 | `Zypher | i dunno |
| 02:12.45 | Aiiane | impact? |
| 02:20.26 | smcn | there, i have a new curseforge profile pic... it's adam savage! |
| 02:20.53 | `Zypher | I actually put my real pic on my curse profile |
| 02:20.55 | `Zypher | =X |
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| 02:26.40 | Aiiane | lies |
| 02:26.45 | Aiiane | and yes, i went to look :( |
| 02:26.49 | smcn | i would, but my current unkempt hobo beard would probably crash the server |
| 02:27.09 | Aiiane | somehow i do not think this is `Zypher's real pic: http://66.150.230.41/thumbman/28/0/241/198x180/Abi_or_Face05.png.-m1.png |
| 02:27.36 | smcn | lol |
| 02:29.02 | `Zypher | said curse |
| 02:29.03 | `Zypher | silly |
| 02:29.06 | `Zypher | not curseforge |
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| 02:32.37 | `Zypher | http://my.curse.com/users/adalyn/ |
| 02:34.06 | ckknight | Aiiane: my real pic is here: http://www.curseforge.com/users/profiles/ckknight/ |
| 02:34.22 | Aiiane | oh, lol `Zypher |
| 02:34.34 | Aiiane | rule #1 of photography |
| 02:34.42 | Aiiane | don't have a bright lightsource in the background |
| 02:34.59 | Aiiane | ~lart ckknight |
| 02:34.59 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at ckknight |
| 02:35.23 | Aiiane | also, what's up with the CurseForge project's icon? |
| 02:35.41 | ckknight | Aiiane: someone uploaded it |
| 02:36.24 | `Zypher | Aiiane: whats wrong with the bright light? |
| 02:45.38 | `Zypher | :( |
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| 02:55.41 | `Zypher | wow the tranfer rate for my new disc drive is really nice |
| 02:55.47 | `Zypher | IDE to SATA = awesome. |
| 02:56.24 | smcn | years behind ;) j/k i made the switch like 8 months ago when i upgraded :P |
| 02:58.42 | Daegalus | O.o you slowpokes |
| 02:58.52 | Daegalus | ive been using sata for the last 4 years if not more |
| 03:00.34 | `Zypher | I just never had a good reason to buy a sata disc drive |
| 03:00.40 | `Zypher | I had perfectly good ide ones |
| 03:00.42 | `Zypher | but wow |
| 03:00.45 | `Zypher | its a nice upgrade lol |
| 03:01.18 | Daegalus | i dunno, i always liked the new stuff |
| 03:01.21 | Daegalus | it always ran better |
| 03:01.24 | Daegalus | so when i did upgrades |
| 03:01.27 | Daegalus | i got the est ofthe best |
| 03:01.28 | smcn | Daegalus: that's about how long ago my previous upgrade was... :P |
| 03:01.29 | Daegalus | and it lasts forever |
| 03:01.48 | Daegalus | ya, but my family is tech oriented |
| 03:01.53 | `Zypher | I have a great computer Daegalus |
| 03:01.54 | Daegalus | so we do frequent tech upgrades |
| 03:02.01 | `Zypher | I just never cared about the disc drives. |
| 03:02.07 | Daegalus | i never said yo udidnt have it |
| 03:02.09 | `Zypher | HDDs have been sata for ages. |
| 03:02.12 | Daegalus | im just saying the reason why I did |
| 03:02.14 | `Zypher | :P |
| 03:03.00 | Daegalus | ha, i put my picture up on my profile! |
| 03:03.45 | Daegalus | though its from like last october |
| 03:03.46 | Daegalus | so its old |
| 03:05.01 | `Zypher | bwahahaha |
| 03:05.11 | `Zypher | thats one of those haloween outlets |
| 03:05.16 | `Zypher | halloween? |
| 03:05.17 | `Zypher | idk |
| 03:07.13 | Daegalus | Spirit Halloween |
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| 03:11.53 | haha | is closed beta down? |
| 03:12.05 | Aiiane | unless you're an elder tester, yes. |
| 03:12.24 | haha | until when? |
| 03:14.26 | Aiiane | until open beta. |
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| 03:16.00 | haha | oh well... |
| 03:16.01 | haha | :) |
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| 03:54.26 | haha | is the EU elder beta seperate from US elder beta? |
| 03:54.46 | Aiiane | I have no idea. |
| 03:54.57 | nicoli_s | there is no eu elder |
| 03:57.52 | haha | accounts or beta? |
| 03:59.14 | Daegalus | there is no EU elder, they are just closed beta normal |
| 04:00.01 | Daegalus | Elder means testers that have direct access to one of Mythic's internal servers. |
| 04:07.15 | haha | ah k |
| 04:23.00 | `Zypher | or mcdouches who wont tell another douche what the new patch.cfg looks like |
| 04:23.06 | `Zypher | ~larp Aiiane |
| 04:23.11 | `Zypher | or not |
| 04:23.18 | Aiiane | o.o |
| 04:23.25 | `Zypher | what is it |
| 04:23.27 | `Zypher | larp? |
| 04:23.29 | `Zypher | I'm tired |
| 04:23.35 | Aiiane | ~lart `Zypher |
| 04:23.35 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps `Zypher |
| 04:23.53 | `Zypher | gotcha |
| 04:24.33 | `Zypher | Aiiane: you said something about the light in my picture |
| 04:24.39 | `Zypher | why you gotta hate? |
| 04:25.15 | Aiiane | bright light in background = anything in foreground looks dark |
| 04:26.09 | `Zypher | I am dark |
| 04:26.12 | `Zypher | I'm a vampire. |
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| 04:31.33 | `Zypher | so im downloading some beta |
| 04:31.43 | `Zypher | so I can play it while I wait for war open beta |
| 04:31.45 | `Zypher | :| |
| 04:33.44 | `Zypher | has anyone played Perfect World? |
| 04:34.57 | Takeshii | Hello, is there any UI modders here that can spare a minute of their a couple minutes for a person ignorant to programming and the like? :X |
| 04:35.37 | Takeshii | errr its late, that almost did not make sense o.o |
| 04:36.04 | Takeshii | *spare a minute of their time... there we go |
| 04:42.10 | Takeshii | Guessing everyone has hit the sack already? xD I might try again tomarrow then |
| 04:56.10 | Daegalus | Takeshii: whats up? Ill help |
| 04:56.25 | Daegalus | sorry ive been busy doing some art so i wasnt looking at IRC |
| 04:57.51 | Takeshii | Oh ok |
| 04:58.48 | Takeshii | I am a 3d artist and have no knowledge in UI development or anything and just need some clues as to the extent of changing the artwork in the game. |
| 05:00.00 | Takeshii | For example I would like to completly overhaul the hotbar art to be somewhat animated and alive, could I animate it using a frame sequence through a UI mod? |
| 05:00.37 | Takeshii | Just an idea ive had, not the slightest idea if its possible |
| 05:01.45 | Takeshii | Or furtur, is it not known if this can be done or not yet? |
| 05:02.33 | Takeshii | further* |
| 05:11.49 | Daegalus | im not sure it can be done |
| 05:11.51 | Daegalus | but |
| 05:11.53 | Daegalus | it might |
| 05:11.56 | Daegalus | i dont know much about the bars |
| 05:12.07 | Daegalus | but i dont think you can easily |
| 05:12.07 | Takeshii | Well, UI artwork in general |
| 05:12.25 | Daegalus | also, why overhaul the actionbars, i think tehy are alive as it is already |
| 05:12.38 | Daegalus | the UI possible. I think you can change frameart and such |
| 05:12.47 | Takeshii | Well |
| 05:13.31 | Daegalus | like Unitframe mods will most likely be possible |
| 05:13.38 | Takeshii | I like the hotbars their great. Ive just never seen in my experiance of MMO's any artowrk thats animated and thought it would be a cool effect |
| 05:13.54 | Takeshii | If it could be pulled off without bloating the interface |
| 05:14.10 | Takeshii | seen any* |
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| 05:15.42 | Daegalus | thats cause it would be too much of a distraction. asit i fyou have too much movement, and moving parts. imagine your action buttons on fire for some mechanic, while the bar is like flashing something, or moving, you cast bar is like doing its own thing, the map is having spasms, and your other frames are going nuts. IM jus tsaying it will be too much on the eyes, especially in a PVP game... |
| 05:15.44 | Daegalus | ...where there is tons of action aleady. Imagine you are waiting for some spell animation to go off and its similar to your UI animation. It might confuse you an make you press a buton early or not at all. Its counter productive in a sense and hard on the eyes |
| 05:16.46 | Takeshii | Well, that case is a little extreme at best, but I get your point |
| 05:16.59 | Daegalus | but if you still want it, i do believe it might be possible |
| 05:17.20 | Daegalus | but I actually dont hink they allow animations for frames. dont quote me on that though. still so much of hte API to figure out |
| 05:17.31 | Takeshii | Ok |
| 05:17.34 | Takeshii | thank you |
| 05:17.39 | Takeshii | I just have one more question |
| 05:17.46 | Daegalus | go for it |
| 05:17.53 | Takeshii | If this were to be possible to any extent |
| 05:18.09 | Takeshii | How would one go about learning to modify the interface. |
| 05:18.26 | Aiiane | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 05:18.27 | Takeshii | From a total ignorant state of programming |
| 05:18.31 | Aiiane | is where we're working on documenting things |
| 05:18.46 | Daegalus | umm go read the book programming in lua. I think Aiiane has the link |
| 05:18.48 | Aiiane | for an introduction to Lua, which is what WAR uses as its language for the UI |
| 05:18.50 | Daegalus | and get familiar with XML |
| 05:18.51 | Aiiane | see here: |
| 05:18.53 | Aiiane | ~pil |
| 05:18.54 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 05:19.18 | Takeshii | Ok, wow. I will definatly check into that. Many thanks |
| 05:19.53 | Daegalus | Aiiane, if i said anything incorrect please correct me. Since i still am less experienced in Lua and modding in general :P |
| 05:20.48 | Aiiane | the capability to allow animations is there (you can see if you play an archmage or whatnot - there are animated effects around some skill icons depending on your career resource level), but I echo the thought that in general it's not a good idea |
| 05:22.44 | Takeshii | The animation is in the artwork around the hotbar itself? Or is it a proprietary effect attached to the skill that happens when you use it? I dont know because the only class i played is a squigg herder |
| 05:23.14 | Aiiane | its in special overlays for buttons |
| 05:24.29 | Takeshii | So I could only animate art that is triggered by events buttons create? Or could a use it to animate static art around the interface to? |
| 05:40.20 | `Zypher | I would assume you can animate normal frames as well |
| 05:40.26 | `Zypher | I don't think you need an event to do it. |
| 05:40.31 | `Zypher | let me look |
| 05:40.38 | Takeshii | Thats good to hear |
| 05:41.38 | `Zypher | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94706 |
| 05:41.51 | `Zypher | that is the glow effect for shamans I believe |
| 05:42.27 | `Zypher | let me find the corresponding .dds file |
| 05:43.22 | Takeshii | I dont know what im looking at, but <animatedImage> looks promising :D |
| 05:43.41 | `Zypher | well to me it looks like |
| 05:44.02 | `Zypher | you have the <animatedImage> window deficinition |
| 05:44.14 | `Zypher | you can then tell it how many frames per second to process |
| 05:44.24 | `Zypher | then you can specify the order in which the slices are displayed |
| 05:44.36 | `Zypher | which is the AnimFame tag |
| 05:44.42 | `Zypher | definition* |
| 05:44.52 | `Zypher | so for example |
| 05:44.59 | `Zypher | lets say I have a round texture |
| 05:45.02 | `Zypher | that has a spark |
| 05:45.05 | `Zypher | at 20 different points |
| 05:45.34 | `Zypher | I can then tell it that I want it to run through those 20 points at 10fps |
| 05:45.46 | Takeshii | That makes sense |
| 05:45.47 | `Zypher | hm |
| 05:45.52 | `Zypher | I wish I had the image to show you |
| 05:46.27 | Takeshii | Well, I do understand animation. Its what i do in the industry ;) Its the code thats foreign to me hehe |
| 05:47.05 | `Zypher | oh |
| 05:47.05 | `Zypher | ok |
| 05:47.06 | `Zypher | well |
| 05:47.11 | `Zypher | you have image.dds |
| 05:47.17 | `Zypher | image.dds has 20 iterations of the same image |
| 05:47.26 | `Zypher | with the spark at 20 different points |
| 05:47.40 | `Zypher | then the AnimFrame is used to specify each texture |
| 05:47.45 | `Zypher | In order I would assume |
| 05:47.54 | `Zypher | and you go from there |
| 05:47.59 | `Zypher | I would have loved to test this |
| 05:48.08 | `Zypher | but textures weren't playing nice in PW |
| 05:48.29 | Takeshii | And does it loop, or is it triggered, played once, then waits to be triggered again |
| 05:48.31 | Takeshii | ? |
| 05:48.39 | `Zypher | well |
| 05:48.50 | `Zypher | it doesn't have any function specified |
| 05:48.55 | `Zypher | so I would assume it loops infinitely |
| 05:49.01 | `Zypher | and the default ui just hides the frame |
| 05:49.05 | Takeshii | Thats good to hear :D |
| 05:49.20 | Takeshii | I will definatly pick up Programming in Lua and learn to do this. |
| 05:50.16 | Takeshii | I would love to be able to aply my animation work in the game ive been waiting for so long XD |
| 05:50.28 | Takeshii | and share it with the rest of the community if it ever does turn out |
| 05:50.37 | `Zypher | hehe |
| 05:50.55 | `Zypher | I'm just waiting to see if they apply a universal style to the whole ui in OB |
| 05:51.09 | `Zypher | it got so many patchwerk textures from different stages in dev atm its silly |
| 05:51.13 | `Zypher | it's |
| 05:51.35 | Takeshii | its a mess? lol |
| 05:51.56 | `Zypher | well |
| 05:52.05 | `Zypher | ya |
| 05:52.06 | `Zypher | lol |
| 05:52.13 | `Zypher | sry lots to think about right now |
| 05:52.26 | `Zypher | and its getting late |
| 05:52.41 | Takeshii | I only got a week of CB, then the weekend /sigh. I had a standing CB invite for a while but was to busy to use it for the longest time >.< |
| 05:53.28 | `Zypher | I'm not elder either |
| 05:53.31 | `Zypher | I have a CB US account |
| 05:53.36 | `Zypher | and a standard EU account |
| 05:53.40 | `Zypher | but EU has no Elder test so |
| 05:53.46 | `Zypher | I'm in the same boat |
| 05:54.29 | Takeshii | Are the servers down till OB? |
| 05:54.36 | `Zypher | except Elder |
| 05:54.41 | Takeshii | ah |
| 05:54.41 | `Zypher | so |
| 05:54.44 | `Zypher | Warpstone is till up |
| 05:54.47 | `Zypher | still* |
| 05:55.02 | `Zypher | I do thank you tho, you gave me a great idea for my minimap texture :P |
| 05:55.21 | `Zypher | going to be similar to the vista loading spinny circle. |
| 05:55.23 | `Zypher | :P |
| 05:55.26 | Takeshii | XD cool. Glad to hear I helped somehow lol |
| 05:55.51 | `Zypher | ok |
| 05:55.54 | `Zypher | I have an image |
| 05:55.57 | `Zypher | its not the right one |
| 05:56.01 | `Zypher | but you should get the idea |
| 05:56.54 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3295717_8xzgg/warlogo.png |
| 05:57.02 | `Zypher | ala the loading screens |
| 05:57.17 | Takeshii | ahh yeah |
| 05:57.48 | `Zypher | so then you would specify each progressive image |
| 05:57.54 | `Zypher | as AnimFrame |
| 05:58.00 | `Zypher | and give it an id |
| 05:58.07 | `Zypher | then specify its position on the overall image |
| 05:58.10 | Takeshii | The the X,Y coord of the corner of each frame |
| 05:58.13 | `Zypher | yup |
| 05:58.15 | `Zypher | :D |
| 05:58.43 | `Zypher | to the best of my knowledge without being able to test it, I would say thats how its done. |
| 05:59.17 | `Zypher | AnimatedImageSetPlaySpeed() AnimatedImageSetTexture() AnimatedImageStartAnimation() AnimatedImageStopAnimation() |
| 05:59.22 | `Zypher | are also available via lua |
| 05:59.31 | `Zypher | so you can start and stop the animation |
| 05:59.38 | Takeshii | Very cool |
| 05:59.45 | `Zypher | ok |
| 05:59.49 | `Zypher | goes back to xfiles. |
| 05:59.51 | `Zypher | cya around |
| 05:59.53 | Takeshii | lol |
| 05:59.58 | Takeshii | later, thanks a ton |
| 06:00.32 | Aiiane | lol, that's amusing... apparently a lot of EA_ default UI modules that aren't involved with the Player unitframe at all, still dep it |
| 06:01.05 | Aiiane | so if you disable it, they dont load |
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| 06:07.10 | Daegalus | I think they are mostly templates than actual UI |
| 06:08.34 | Daegalus | can we make purls say "As declared by the kings and queens of #WARUIDev, Daegalus is hereby proclaimed, the biggest noob of them all" whenever someone does ~noob |
| 06:11.28 | Aiiane | http://www.aiiane.net/images/cleanframe.jpg |
| 06:11.35 | Aiiane | what do you think? (default on top for comparison) |
| 06:11.55 | Daegalus | i like it |
| 06:12.04 | Daegalus | you should still keep the level in there somewhere |
| 06:12.33 | Aiiane | mm |
| 06:12.40 | Aiiane | i could put it in front of the name |
| 06:13.04 | Daegalus | what that orange arrow next to the level? |
| 06:13.07 | Daegalus | i keep forgetting |
| 06:13.16 | Aiiane | advancement available |
| 06:13.23 | Aiiane | i.e. "you havent trained yet you noob" |
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| 06:13.35 | Daegalus | you should bput tha in the grey area next to the bars thats sitll visible |
| 06:14.04 | Takeshii | They sure do conceal it well for trying to inform you lol |
| 06:14.21 | Takeshii | I never noticed it while i was playing, the arrow that is |
| 06:14.23 | Daegalus | you should see if you can expand that grey area |
| 06:14.31 | Daegalus | and put the level at the top of hte grey area |
| 06:14.34 | Daegalus | and the arrow on teh bottom |
| 06:14.37 | Aiiane | it's part of the texture, daeg |
| 06:14.47 | Aiiane | cant really change it |
| 06:14.55 | Daegalus | i know, doesnt mean stretch the area the texture covers |
| 06:15.07 | Daegalus | textures dont have defined sizes, jsut the area they texture |
| 06:15.08 | Aiiane | the texture is the entire frame for the healbar/apbar |
| 06:15.14 | Daegalus | oh |
| 06:15.18 | Aiiane | stretching it screws it up |
| 06:15.41 | Daegalus | well level isnt that important |
| 06:15.43 | Daegalus | its just nice |
| 06:16.07 | Daegalus | though removing the Open Party button is bad, since ther eis no other way to open it |
| 06:16.30 | Daegalus | maybe with a keybind, but othe rthan that, no go i think |
| 06:17.15 | Daegalus | just giving some constructive criticism, i love the direction you are going in. if you cna make a minimalistic UI, be sure to tell me. i would love ot use it |
| 06:21.37 | Takeshii | Well Thanks again for the help you guys. Youll probably see me again when OB opens and Im trying to teach my feeble mind to learn Lua. Hehe. |
| 06:22.09 | Aiiane | I think I might be moving the player name back up above the bar |
| 06:34.43 | Aiiane | Daegalus - the open party window is in the context menu |
| 06:35.10 | Daegalus | oh, well still easier to click a button |
| 06:36.56 | Aiiane | well, i can add stuff specific to the player frame later if i want |
| 06:37.01 | Aiiane | right now im just trying to get a good layout |
| 06:37.08 | Aiiane | for a generic unitframe |
| 06:37.26 | smcn | i have a coroutine conundrum |
| 06:37.44 | smcn | is it only possible to yield a coroutine once? |
| 06:37.44 | Aiiane | is that some euphemism for girl problems? |
| 06:37.49 | smcn | lol |
| 06:41.26 | Aiiane | um, shouldnt be smcn |
| 06:41.34 | Aiiane | the classic example is a producer and a consumer |
| 06:41.49 | Aiiane | both yielding to each other when they dont currently have anything to do |
| 06:41.53 | Aiiane | back and forth |
| 06:41.55 | Aiiane | repeatedly |
| 06:45.08 | netcurse | good morning |
| 06:45.22 | netcurse | and BBL, i'm away most of the day=P |
| 06:46.03 | Aiiane | silly net |
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| 06:46.15 | netcurse | tomorrow i fly back to SF : ) |
| 06:46.36 | Lliane | hi |
| 06:46.43 | Lliane | we need to talk a little netcurse |
| 06:46.44 | Aiiane | hi Lliane |
| 06:47.46 | Lliane | hi Aiiane |
| 06:49.07 | Lliane | Aiiane: any comment about the new version of online api? |
| 06:49.17 | Lliane | i've set integer as the type but |
| 06:49.19 | Lliane | lua> 42 |
| 06:49.19 | lua_bot | Lliane: 42 |
| 06:49.24 | Lliane | lua> type(42) |
| 06:49.24 | lua_bot | Lliane: number |
| 06:50.51 | Aiiane | didnt i say to use number? |
| 06:51.49 | Aiiane | I honestly don't remember |
| 06:52.00 | Lliane | it's a drama? |
| 06:52.07 | Aiiane | if I said integer, my mistake then |
| 06:52.11 | Aiiane | and what? |
| 06:52.42 | Lliane | no i put integer ^^ |
| 06:52.42 | Lliane | i'm on a web client and i didn't find the types you put |
| 06:52.44 | Lliane | string wstring bool integer are well recognised |
| 06:52.58 | Aiiane | lua> type(false) |
| 06:52.59 | lua_bot | Aiiane: boolean |
| 06:52.59 | Lliane | subobject is not really subobject |
| 06:53.22 | Aiiane | someone tell me what the heck lliane is talking about? |
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| 06:53.33 | lliane|esl | fail |
| 06:53.44 | Aiiane | lliane, what are you talking about? you've got me completely confused |
| 06:54.11 | lliane|esl | stillLoading (boolean) default: true |
| 06:54.16 | Aiiane | what about it? |
| 06:54.18 | lliane|esl | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:AbilitiesWindow |
| 06:54.20 | lliane|esl | the properties |
| 06:54.21 | Aiiane | lua> type(false) |
| 06:54.22 | lua_bot | Aiiane: boolean |
| 06:54.25 | lliane|esl | is there anything wrong? |
| 06:54.41 | Aiiane | yes... int should be number |
| 06:54.49 | lliane|esl | i should kill myself |
| 06:54.55 | Aiiane | and yes, i know they're red links |
| 06:54.59 | Aiiane | I havent made pages for the types yet |
| 06:55.07 | Aiiane | the other types are fine |
| 06:55.36 | Aiiane | also, i am happy, because I have a nice purdy unitframe template :) |
| 06:55.54 | lliane|esl | ^^ |
| 06:57.13 | Aiiane | http://www.aiiane.net/images/unitframe.jpg |
| 06:58.47 | lliane|esl | http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4246/nihilumdisconectedtm6.jpg :p |
| 06:58.58 | lliane|esl | working on wow fulltime atm |
| 06:59.14 | Aiiane | lol |
| 06:59.44 | haha | hi lliane|esl is wardev.org your site? |
| 06:59.47 | Aiiane | well the best part of that frame I just showed you an image of |
| 06:59.52 | Aiiane | is that the entire thing is a template |
| 06:59.56 | Aiiane | that I just created an instance of |
| 06:59.58 | lliane|esl | haha: yes |
| 07:00.05 | Aiiane | so I can make plenty of copies for group window, etc |
| 07:00.11 | lliane|esl | haha: why? |
| 07:01.40 | haha | ah k just wondering if everyone is generating the myp file names from the hashes or theres an index in there somewhere with all the filenames? :) |
| 07:02.29 | Aiiane | well if nothing else, if its a lua file you could randomly try to call some function in it with the wrong arguments and see what the error message says for the source file. :P |
| 07:08.55 | Aiiane | so yeah... it looks like it's going to be a pain to just literally *replace* any given part of the default UI |
| 07:09.02 | Aiiane | as in, be able to deactivate it |
| 07:09.28 | Aiiane | because some modules have dependencies from/on the other default UI elements |
| 07:09.37 | Aiiane | so it'll probably wind up that if you use custom unitframes |
| 07:09.45 | Aiiane | you'll just have to hide the default ones in the layout manager |
| 07:09.48 | Aiiane | and not actually disable them |
| 07:09.58 | Aiiane | otherwise half your interface won't load |
| 07:11.58 | smcn | i believe wow unitframe mods just hide the defaults as well |
| 07:12.10 | `Zypher | or |
| 07:12.13 | Aiiane | except that wow doesn't have a layoutmanager built in :P |
| 07:12.28 | Aiiane | I might be able to unregister the default frames from the layoutmanager, though |
| 07:12.33 | smcn | true, but i'm sure it's possible to call the "hide-via-layout-manager" function in a script |
| 07:12.41 | Aiiane | actually, it isn't :P |
| 07:12.44 | `Zypher | Aiiane: once they give EA_*.Shutdown() actual unreg commands you could call that |
| 07:12.49 | Aiiane | they're local functions to the layoutmanager file :P |
| 07:12.54 | smcn | ah |
| 07:12.58 | haha | are lots of UI functions diabled or returning null? |
| 07:13.00 | Aiiane | you could call the mouseevent handler for those buttons |
| 07:13.10 | Aiiane | but that'd be a pain to find the buttons in the first place |
| 07:13.14 | Aiiane | since it's a dynamic list |
| 07:13.17 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I had a good idea btw |
| 07:13.24 | Aiiane | haha: ? |
| 07:13.28 | smcn | well, in the CECB/PW client you couldn't even hide windows via the lom :P |
| 07:13.49 | `Zypher | yes you could |
| 07:13.53 | `Zypher | what are you talking about |
| 07:13.56 | haha | ah nothing were just finding not all UI functions dont return data, wondering if they are being disabled by Mythic |
| 07:13.57 | `Zypher | liar. |
| 07:14.05 | smcn | `Zypher: didn't work for me :P |
| 07:14.15 | `Zypher | smcn: how did you go about doing it? |
| 07:14.17 | Aiiane | haha: a lot of functions dont actually put their return values in the function returns |
| 07:14.23 | smcn | right-click, hide |
| 07:14.34 | Aiiane | haha: instead, they tell the client's C side to store the values needed in a global variable in Lua |
| 07:14.35 | `Zypher | smcn: you have to do it via the "Windows" mmenu |
| 07:14.47 | Aiiane | haha: and then the function that called the request checks the global variable |
| 07:15.11 | `Zypher | lua> 60 * 1 |
| 07:15.12 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 60 |
| 07:15.13 | haha | anyone figured out how to by pass the patcher and run the client in a dev mode or something ? :) |
| 07:15.22 | `Zypher | lua> 60 * 60 |
| 07:15.23 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 3600 |
| 07:15.31 | `Zypher | lua> 3600 * 12 |
| 07:15.31 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 43200 |
| 07:15.34 | Aiiane | haha: um, unless you have a working server, there's not much point |
| 07:15.42 | Aiiane | since the patcher is what generates your login for that server |
| 07:15.59 | `Zypher | haha: the patcher generates --authtoken= |
| 07:16.05 | `Zypher | haha: and fires WAR.exe like |
| 07:16.14 | `Zypher | WAR.exe --acctname=* --authtoken=* |
| 07:16.18 | haha | k thanks Aiiane, ill try that next time beta comes up :) |
| 07:16.36 | Aiiane | haha: any particular functions you were wondering about? |
| 07:16.43 | Aiiane | I can get you a usage example of them in the default UI |
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| 07:21.07 | `Zypher | Aiiane: with <animatedWindow> |
| 07:21.15 | `Zypher | I bet it could be possible to make a sort of clock |
| 07:21.17 | `Zypher | lol |
| 07:21.29 | Aiiane | but it wouldnt actually have much meaning |
| 07:21.33 | `Zypher | no |
| 07:21.36 | `Zypher | it wouldn't |
| 07:21.49 | haha | ah k thanks, not now, maybe next week or so :) kinda hard without a game to test |
| 07:21.51 | `Zypher | but it would look cool |
| 07:23.12 | `Zypher | I was thinking |
| 07:23.18 | `Zypher | you know the vista loading mouse icon |
| 07:23.34 | `Zypher | I could make my minimap's border have a similar effect |
| 07:23.38 | `Zypher | and spin at 60fps |
| 07:23.49 | `Zypher | :D |
| 07:23.53 | haha | is there a way to get out coords? |
| 07:24.03 | Aiiane | map coords, as in your current position? yes |
| 07:24.12 | Aiiane | since the map itself shows them :P |
| 07:24.28 | Aiiane | although |
| 07:24.31 | haha | like log it to a file? |
| 07:25.52 | Aiiane | hmm. actually, i sort of lied |
| 07:25.56 | Aiiane | you can't get your current position |
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| 07:26.05 | Aiiane | only the position of your mouse cursor on the worldmap |
| 07:26.16 | Aiiane | forgot which coords the map displays |
| 07:26.45 | Aiiane | but i just checked and it's the cursor ones |
| 07:31.37 | `Zypher | suga suga how you get so fly |
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| 07:31.47 | `Zypher | wb Takeshii |
| 07:31.51 | Takeshii | Thanks |
| 07:32.18 | Takeshii | Zypher: how do you access the art files? |
| 07:32.47 | Aiiane | they're in the myp's |
| 07:33.00 | Aiiane | you can extract them with something like http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/ |
| 07:33.09 | Aiiane | after which they're in DDS format |
| 07:33.51 | Takeshii | Ok, so they do the whole archive thing like WoW |
| 07:34.04 | SkyFlash | yes! |
| 07:34.06 | SkyFlash | morning! |
| 07:34.17 | Takeshii | throw everything in huge files and call it good lol |
| 07:35.28 | `Zypher | sorta |
| 07:35.29 | Takeshii | Thanks for the link Aiiane |
| 07:35.41 | `Zypher | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62663 |
| 07:35.52 | `Zypher | this person is intelligent and WHA shits on it. |
| 07:35.57 | `Zypher | I could just be tired |
| 07:35.59 | `Zypher | idk |
| 07:36.32 | Aiiane | um, its more just that they were stating the obvious |
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| 07:37.34 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I can't think atm |
| 07:37.36 | `Zypher | shuush |
| 07:37.44 | `Zypher | my brain hurts |
| 07:38.53 | `Zypher | wow homo |
| 07:39.01 | `Zypher | all US servers are in a farm in Virginia |
| 07:39.17 | `Zypher | no LA / Texas / Seattle |
| 07:39.18 | Daegalus | im back |
| 07:39.20 | `Zypher | :| |
| 07:39.39 | Takeshii | wtb seattle server |
| 07:40.02 | `Zypher | I would think they would go for Texas |
| 07:40.02 | Daegalus | umm WoW's are all in the same server famr actually |
| 07:40.13 | Daegalus | in virginia |
| 07:40.13 | `Zypher | Daegalus: not true. |
| 07:40.35 | lliane|esl | `Zypherthis person is intelligent and WHA shits on it. |
| 07:40.41 | lliane|esl | i totally agree with you |
| 07:40.42 | lliane|esl | . |
| 07:40.48 | `Zypher | :D |
| 07:41.28 | `Zypher | Daegalus: if that were true why would routes have differed so much between servers? |
| 07:41.38 | `Zypher | why would pings be different? |
| 07:41.53 | Daegalus | well originally they were al east coast |
| 07:41.57 | Daegalus | guess they expanded |
| 07:41.59 | `Zypher | thats true |
| 07:42.01 | Daegalus | and reworked some stuff |
| 07:42.08 | Daegalus | i never paid attention really |
| 07:42.12 | `Zypher | Korgath which was in texas I got 23 ping to |
| 07:42.23 | `Zypher | Darkspear which was East I get 50+ |
| 07:42.48 | `Zypher | Kil'Jaeden which was East I got like 15-20 |
| 07:42.55 | `Zypher | KJ was west* |
| 07:43.05 | Daegalus | i just googled it, calm down, you are right |
| 07:43.09 | `Zypher | lol |
| 07:43.31 | `Zypher | They have support for multiple master server lists |
| 07:43.45 | `Zypher | so I'm not worried it implies there will be east and wast servers |
| 07:43.55 | `Zypher | perhaps not at launch |
| 07:43.57 | `Zypher | but later on |
| 07:44.48 | Daegalus | but originally they were like mythic, then later expanded wit new servers. I think WAR will do the same also later on if more pepole migrate to war |
| 07:45.07 | `Zypher | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94710 |
| 07:45.08 | haha | thats the 3rd myp extractor ive found, i guess this one doesnt get the file names either? |
| 07:45.20 | `Zypher | not many do haha |
| 07:45.59 | `Zypher | see what im saying Daegalus |
| 07:46.10 | `Zypher | <RegionList> |
| 07:46.42 | Aiiane | haha: most people don't want to give up their dictionary files which they went to the effort to create :P |
| 07:46.49 | Daegalus | didnt i tell you i found the info already zyph. http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
| 07:47.29 | `Zypher | Daegalus: I know |
| 07:47.31 | haha | are there any instructions on how to create our own dictionary file? |
| 07:47.41 | `Zypher | I'm just proving that yes they will be adding other servers later on |
| 07:47.45 | `Zypher | server farms* |
| 07:49.49 | Aiiane | haha: dictionary files are just files that list hashes and the corresponding filenames |
| 07:49.50 | SkyFlash__ | haha: write a little software that looks through the files and captures every filename |
| 07:50.05 | `Zypher | or |
| 07:50.13 | Aiiane | or find the ones in mythic's xml :P |
| 07:50.14 | `Zypher | you guys could, maybe just once |
| 07:50.17 | `Zypher | yes |
| 07:50.17 | SkyFlash__ | like: extract all the lua and mod files first without filenames |
| 07:50.18 | `Zypher | thank you |
| 07:50.29 | SkyFlash__ | extract all the filenames from those files |
| 07:50.40 | SkyFlash__ | its easy, they are like "filename.lua" and stuff |
| 07:50.42 | SkyFlash__ | :P |
| 07:50.44 | `Zypher | each .myp has an xml dictionary built in |
| 07:50.54 | `Zypher | but no one listens to me |
| 07:50.55 | `Zypher | :| |
| 07:50.58 | Aiiane | do you remember the hash for its name `Zypher? |
| 07:51.00 | Aiiane | I don't offhand |
| 07:51.01 | SkyFlash__ | ya i know, i found them too |
| 07:51.09 | SkyFlash__ | however i am not sure they are complete... |
| 07:51.09 | `Zypher | I have them extracted |
| 07:51.13 | `Zypher | and seperated |
| 07:51.18 | `Zypher | they are. |
| 07:51.23 | Aiiane | i know, i was just trying to remember the name(s) :P |
| 07:51.24 | haha | the dictionary lists all the files totally? |
| 07:51.25 | SkyFlash__ | k then just use those |
| 07:51.32 | haha | err the xml dictionary in each .myp ? |
| 07:52.04 | `Zypher | Aiiane: well the thing about the myp extractor I have is it renames the files from their default "hashed" name |
| 07:52.05 | SkyFlash__ | ya whatever, lots of possibilities :P |
| 07:52.35 | Aiiane | ah `Zypher |
| 07:52.52 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3024527_v2n5y/FC6F6C30_A535215331147EAB.xml |
| 07:52.58 | `Zypher | thats data.myp |
| 07:53.18 | `Zypher | well |
| 07:53.32 | `Zypher | I haven't extracted since PW patches so idk |
| 07:53.36 | `Zypher | it could have changed a bit |
| 07:53.48 | lliane|esl | `Zypher: there's no more dictionanry |
| 07:53.57 | `Zypher | seriosly? |
| 07:54.03 | `Zypher | seriously* |
| 07:54.04 | `Zypher | ffs |
| 07:54.06 | `Zypher | leme check |
| 07:54.07 | lliane|esl | they removed it more than one year ago |
| 07:54.19 | lliane|esl | they re-added them? |
| 07:54.20 | `Zypher | then wtf do I have |
| 07:54.24 | lliane|esl | are you serious? |
| 07:54.30 | `Zypher | because I took these out of the 3.3 client. |
| 07:54.50 | `Zypher | why does no one look at the link |
| 07:54.51 | lliane|esl | lemme check |
| 07:54.54 | `Zypher | look at the xml file I linked |
| 07:54.54 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 07:55.33 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3024797_cplor/2EAC2F37_7334D5AB775392DA.xml |
| 07:55.36 | `Zypher | interface.myp |
| 07:56.00 | `Zypher | im gunna extract the current ones while I download a patch for BF |
| 07:56.03 | SkyFlash | you found the hashes in the xml?? |
| 07:56.09 | lliane|esl | imba |
| 07:56.15 | SkyFlash | there was a file in my myp with filenames |
| 07:56.20 | SkyFlash | but not with hashes |
| 07:56.38 | `Zypher | >.> |
| 07:56.42 | `Zypher | click on the link |
| 07:56.46 | `Zypher | just click! |
| 07:56.49 | SkyFlash | ya i did... |
| 07:56.52 | SkyFlash | thats why i say this |
| 07:57.01 | SkyFlash | thats from the EU beta? |
| 07:57.05 | `Zypher | US |
| 07:57.07 | `Zypher | <file name="interface/Default/EATemplate_Icons/Textures/EM_Shield_T3_02.dds" hash="314b6da6d515b" mtime="47ea8796"/> |
| 07:57.21 | lliane|esl | erf |
| 07:57.27 | SkyFlash | damn |
| 07:57.28 | lliane|esl | ok |
| 07:57.36 | SkyFlash | i bet they removed the hashes for the EU :P |
| 07:57.37 | lliane|esl | this rocks |
| 07:58.02 | lliane|esl | you think there is a guy in GOA with more programming skills than Flash MX? |
| 07:58.06 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: I believe that Chryso told me he couldn't find it when he extracted the EU ones |
| 07:58.33 | SkyFlash | ya i believe i looked for filenames, and i did find some, but no hashes and i was thinking its not complete |
| 07:58.52 | SkyFlash | so... they probably changed something cause they think in EU we are all hackers |
| 07:59.15 | lliane|esl | can't get them in last week archive |
| 07:59.17 | lliane|esl | from us |
| 07:59.37 | `Zypher | wouldn't that make them correct? |
| 07:59.46 | lliane|esl | they already added and removed filenames |
| 07:59.56 | Aiiane | oh lookie, i found the talisman window code |
| 08:00.05 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:00.06 | SkyFlash | no... we are not all hackers, just some of us :P |
| 08:00.11 | `Zypher | Aiiane: took you long enough |
| 08:00.21 | lliane|esl | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:TalismanMakingWindow ? |
| 08:00.29 | SkyFlash | also there are enough US hackers :P |
| 08:00.35 | haha | `Zypher you generated that file or found that in the MYP? |
| 08:00.48 | `Zypher | haha: found in .myp |
| 08:02.04 | Aiiane | `Zypher: I just hadnt bothered browsing |
| 08:02.38 | `Zypher | haha |
| 08:02.40 | `Zypher | I think its gone now |
| 08:02.44 | `Zypher | I can't find them now |
| 08:02.44 | Aiiane | sadly, it doesnt actually work if i pull it up in game |
| 08:03.39 | haha | perhaps its still in there, they just moved it? |
| 08:03.48 | SkyFlash | no its gone |
| 08:03.56 | `Zypher | I got those on Aug5 2008 |
| 08:03.59 | SkyFlash | i searched all files, wrote a custom software for it |
| 08:04.08 | Aiiane | bah! |
| 08:04.08 | `Zypher | anyways |
| 08:04.13 | `Zypher | I need to go to sleep |
| 08:04.16 | Aiiane | for a sec, I thought I had found a reference to GetMillisecs() |
| 08:04.22 | Aiiane | but it doesnt work ingame :/ |
| 08:04.26 | `Zypher | cya guys tomarrow |
| 08:04.31 | SkyFlash | cya |
| 08:04.36 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I will still have your babies. |
| 08:04.59 | Aiiane | ...wouldnt that be...the..other..way...around.... |
| 08:05.01 | Aiiane | I hope? |
| 08:05.04 | SkyFlash | rotfl |
| 08:05.14 | Aiiane | :| |
| 08:05.19 | SkyFlash | hey you can both link up and have babies at the same time! |
| 08:05.24 | Aiiane | .. |
| 08:05.25 | `Zypher | wasn't there some girl/guy that had a kid? |
| 08:05.44 | SkyFlash | a nice lesbian family with two kids... |
| 08:05.58 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 08:06.03 | haha | are the item icons in the interface or art archive? i found them but dont see any link between the item icon names ingame -> filenames that zypher gave |
| 08:06.05 | `Zypher | does `Zypher sound like a girl's name? |
| 08:06.09 | lliane|esl | interface |
| 08:06.19 | `Zypher | Aiiane: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5302756 |
| 08:07.04 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 08:08.38 | Takeshii | Wow, what is this... |
| 08:08.55 | `Zypher | Takeshii: a "man" had a kid. |
| 08:09.04 | Takeshii | ... |
| 08:09.05 | lliane|esl | no |
| 08:09.11 | lliane|esl | it's legaly a man, but it was a gir |
| 08:09.11 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: http://my.curse.com/users/adalyn/ |
| 08:09.14 | `Zypher | has my picture. |
| 08:09.16 | lliane|esl | it's legaly a man, but it was born a girl |
| 08:09.18 | `Zypher | lliane|esl: well yes. |
| 08:09.28 | lliane|esl | strange ever |
| 08:09.41 | Takeshii | 'it' |
| 08:09.57 | `Zypher | girls are wierd, and this proves it. |
| 08:10.09 | Aiiane | ... |
| 08:10.16 | Aiiane | hmph. :| |
| 08:10.21 | `Zypher | Aiiane: sorry but the trust must be told. |
| 08:10.22 | Aiiane | night all~ |
| 08:10.26 | `Zypher | truth* |
| 08:10.28 | `Zypher | wtf |
| 08:10.29 | `Zypher | im tired. |
| 08:10.31 | lliane|esl | haha |
| 08:10.33 | `Zypher | ya niters |
| 08:10.45 | Daegalus | night aiiane |
| 08:11.06 | SkyFlash | lol... |
| 08:15.05 | Takeshii | Wow |
| 08:16.04 | Takeshii | Err, I just extracted Art.myp and it dumped everything in my C\docs and settings\Takeshii...not even in its own folder just there lol |
| 08:17.34 | SkyFlash | lol have fun :P |
| 08:18.01 | Takeshii | Yeah, definatly gunna call it a night |
| 08:24.35 | lliane|esl | SkyFlash: you should set Desktop as default directory |
| 08:27.43 | SkyFlash | what? why me? |
| 08:27.52 | SkyFlash | for what? |
| 08:28.19 | SkyFlash | what are you talking about? :P |
| 08:30.35 | lliane|esl | to extract all the files on the desltop ^^ |
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| 08:50.17 | HansM | morning peopel |
| 08:50.21 | HansM | *people |
| 08:50.54 | SkyFlash | wee my second addon is up! :P |
| 08:51.46 | HansM | gz! what is it about? |
| 08:53.59 | SkyFlash | in game gold advertising! :P |
| 08:54.09 | lliane|esl | ^^ |
| 08:54.13 | SkyFlash | well it was... |
| 08:54.25 | HansM | lol |
| 08:54.38 | SkyFlash | before they deleted it *g* |
| 08:55.38 | lliane|esl | gold is legal, selling is legal, why should selling gold be illegal? |
| 08:55.49 | SkyFlash | hey that was a great addon! :P |
| 08:56.00 | lliane|esl | I do not understand why prostitution is illegal. Why should prostitution be illegal? Selling is legal, fucking is legal. Why is selling and fucking legal? |
| 08:56.05 | SkyFlash | it exploits the LUA API at its finest :P |
| 08:56.18 | SkyFlash | prostitution is not illegal :P |
| 08:56.26 | lliane|esl | depends on where you live |
| 08:56.38 | lliane|esl | in france it is illegal |
| 08:57.06 | SkyFlash | i really have to say, the curseforge admins are REALLY fast ;) |
| 08:57.13 | SkyFlash | gratz to that :P |
| 09:12.22 | SkyFlash | should addons be able to whisper people and write into chat channels? |
| 09:13.14 | SkyFlash | oh and didn't france like invent prostitution? *g* |
| 09:13.33 | SkyFlash | ok ok it's much older than that, this time you are off the hook :P |
| 09:13.50 | SkyFlash | but there was this Moulin Rouge thingy... |
| 09:14.57 | lliane|esl | moulin rouge is 19th century |
| 09:15.00 | lliane|esl | prostituion is the older job of the world |
| 09:15.13 | lliane|esl | there was prostitution in old egypt |
| 09:15.54 | lliane|esl | there is only two movies about paris... Moulin Rouge and Ratatouille... |
| 09:18.11 | haha | ... ? |
| 09:18.58 | haha | An American Werewolf in Paris |
| 09:27.50 | SkyFlash | lol |
| 09:30.42 | SkyFlash | oh ya and those 2nd WW movies, where France gets run over by germany *g* |
| 09:33.07 | Daegalus | hey SkyFlash, what did your addon do that was removed? |
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| 09:41.52 | SkyFlash_ | my addon did collect names from the chat and then make it possible to whisper all those names with some text... and do it automatically every 10 minutes |
| 09:43.34 | haha | spam addon :) |
| 09:44.35 | lliane|esl | there is no /who function? |
| 09:48.47 | SkyFlash_ | dont know... didnt see it yet |
| 09:49.15 | SkyFlash_ | but the chat lines are saved with name, so it's pretty easy to collect player names standing around in a city |
| 09:49.33 | SkyFlash_ | and then whisper them every ten minutes, or just once and delete the name again.. whatever |
| 09:50.01 | SkyFlash_ | and actually i hate that addons can whisper players... it sucks |
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| 10:10.57 | SkyFlash_ | that thread is cool... Aiiane and the rocketboots ;) |
| 10:23.34 | haha | anyone find the link from file names to icons? |
| 10:23.43 | haha | err icon UI #'s ? |
| 11:12.26 | SkyFlash_ | god i hate those people... if you use a ToT addon you are a noob.. but if you use teamspeak and do it that way its suddenly skill?? |
| 11:12.32 | SkyFlash_ | omg... |
| 11:48.40 | lliane|esl | i'm not away |
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| 12:46.35 | ghostfish | ToT addon? |
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| 13:15.12 | ghostfish | and teamspeak/vent is skill because you're coordinating your tactics |
| 13:19.04 | SkyFlash_ | na its not... its a third party addon, thats all |
| 13:19.14 | SkyFlash_ | i can do the same with an in game addon |
| 13:19.42 | SkyFlash_ | if I would write an addon that does the same TS does ingame, people would say its lame and addons should be banned |
| 13:20.36 | SkyFlash_ | they warp their reality to whatever fits their needs... they like to use TS cause they know they will rule everyone else that is not using TS |
| 13:23.46 | SkyFlash_ | Skill is to use everything possible to win that is within the ruleset and then own people that do the same |
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| 13:39.04 | matsuka | There is no ruleset in competitive gaming |
| 13:39.15 | matsuka | (imo) |
| 13:39.39 | SkyFlash_ | ?? |
| 13:39.53 | lliane|esl | yes there is |
| 13:40.00 | SkyFlash_ | there cant be a competition without a ruleset :P |
| 13:40.02 | lliane|esl | the more your sponsor has money, the less skill you have |
| 13:40.41 | SkyFlash_ | hm... na that sounds wrong... why should someone give you money if you suck? |
| 13:41.01 | lliane|esl | that's not what it means |
| 13:41.19 | lliane|esl | it means that if your sponsor gief you too much money, you are gonna suck |
| 13:41.48 | SkyFlash_ | ya cause you eat too much pizza and coke, get fat und die from heart diseases |
| 13:42.40 | matsuka | What i meant is that in competitive gaming there are always leeways from the ruleset |
| 13:43.15 | SkyFlash_ | well if it works, its in the ruleset, if its not supposed to they got to change the rules |
| 13:45.20 | pewpewarrows | AoC had no ruleset |
| 13:45.25 | pewpewarrows | we all see how that turned out |
| 13:46.38 | SkyFlash_ | AoC had a ruleset, but no game |
| 13:46.53 | SkyFlash_ | thats different lol |
| 13:47.03 | SkyFlash_ | btw pew how is your addon coming along? |
| 13:47.54 | pewpewarrows | which one? lol |
| 13:48.02 | pewpewarrows | I have like a dozen I'm flipping between |
| 13:48.08 | lliane|esl | AoC is shit |
| 13:48.10 | lliane|esl | end of discussion |
| 13:48.27 | SkyFlash_ | your great addon.. lol |
| 13:48.32 | lliane|esl | the only stand which was empty at games convention |
| 13:48.36 | lliane|esl | was funcom one |
| 13:48.38 | SkyFlash_ | the unitframe thingy |
| 13:48.47 | SkyFlash_ | really? didnt they burn it down? |
| 13:48.59 | SkyFlash_ | i thought Funcoms booth just lasts about a day |
| 13:49.26 | lliane|esl | blizzard 200k visitors funcom 2k maybe |
| 13:49.28 | pewpewarrows | oh yeah, unit frame is making its way along |
| 13:49.36 | lliane|esl | warhammer 200k too |
| 13:49.53 | SkyFlash_ | how are you giving the information about targets to the other players? |
| 13:50.28 | SkyFlash_ | and did you put your code on curseforge yet or do you have a different hoster? |
| 13:51.47 | pewpewarrows | no, all my stuff is using my framework right now |
| 13:51.52 | pewpewarrows | which is _very_ craptastic |
| 13:52.05 | pewpewarrows | so until I get that to a releasable state on CF you won't see the rest |
| 13:52.22 | pewpewarrows | but, most likely one of these days you'll see like 10 new projects from me come up at once :P |
| 13:52.47 | pewpewarrows | and I'm giving target info using the comm library of my framework |
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| 13:58.40 | SkyFlash_ | ya and how is the comm library doing it? |
| 13:58.47 | SkyFlash_ | a special chat channel like in WOW? |
| 13:58.56 | SkyFlash_ | hidden from the user? |
| 14:03.34 | Chryzo|AFK | hi all |
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| 14:11.06 | pewpewarrows | yeah SkyFlash_ |
| 14:11.17 | pewpewarrows | well |
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| 14:11.36 | pewpewarrows | Mythic doesn't give us a nice special hidden channel by default |
| 14:12.14 | nicoli_s | man i love when people send bugs aout the game to the war/wowdb bugs email |
| 14:12.29 | pewpewarrows | so I'm working out a system for group/warband/global hidden channels to comm over |
| 14:12.35 | pewpewarrows | and lol nicoli_s |
| 14:12.45 | ckknight | howdy all |
| 14:12.50 | nicoli_s | heya ck |
| 14:12.57 | Chryzo|AFK | heya ckknight |
| 14:13.00 | pewpewarrows | hey there |
| 14:13.02 | nicoli_s | what timezone is huntsville in ck? |
| 14:15.01 | ckknight | CST |
| 14:15.10 | ckknight | 9:15 AM now |
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| 15:05.36 | netcurse | wow, 30 people now here |
| 15:06.19 | Chryzo|AFK | bah quand on fait de la pub ca ameute :) |
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| 15:24.44 | Aii | good morning :) |
| 15:28.32 | lliane|esl | i suck |
| 15:28.46 | lliane|esl | i was wondering why i got more and more errors on a wow arena replayer |
| 15:28.56 | lliane|esl | i mean Memory Paging error |
| 15:29.13 | lliane|esl | it's because of the combat log getting longer and longer |
| 15:29.17 | lliane|esl | spend two weeks on this... |
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| 15:30.54 | SkyFlash__ | nooo |
| 15:30.59 | SkyFlash__ | you are fine ;) |
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| 15:53.47 | Aii | wb pewpewarrows |
| 15:54.18 | Aii | so are you just using regular chat channels for your framework's mod comms, but not displaying them to the user in the chat window? |
| 15:54.59 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 15:55.16 | Aii | hehe. so many reminders of the early wow api |
| 15:55.22 | ckknight | and people without your framework will see these comms |
| 15:55.22 | pewpewarrows | and I'm trying to emulate the feel of addon communication between group, warband, and global |
| 15:55.33 | ckknight | you should hide them somehow |
| 15:55.35 | pewpewarrows | I do |
| 15:55.44 | pewpewarrows | I have a special naming scheme for the channels |
| 15:55.53 | ckknight | e.g. "LFG LBRS lvl 50 Balance Durid", followed by your text |
| 15:55.59 | pewpewarrows | nothing goes to the default chat channels |
| 15:56.05 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 15:56.15 | pewpewarrows | I meant that |
| 15:56.23 | pewpewarrows | once a group is created (2 or more people) |
| 15:56.37 | pewpewarrows | a special id for a channel just for them gets created |
| 15:56.48 | SkyFlash__ | *g* |
| 15:56.50 | pewpewarrows | to share info |
| 15:57.09 | SkyFlash__ | that will suck as bad as in wow :P |
| 15:57.17 | SkyFlash__ | however, they dont leave us any choice |
| 15:57.27 | SkyFlash__ | it's their fault! |
| 15:57.28 | pewpewarrows | yeah it's very hacky right now |
| 15:57.45 | pewpewarrows | and I don't have chat throttling in yet |
| 15:57.58 | SkyFlash__ | someone in the german beta forum wants me to write an orcanizer |
| 15:58.02 | SkyFlash__ | *g* |
| 15:58.07 | SkyFlash__ | sounds reasonable :P |
| 15:58.25 | pewpewarrows | what does "*g*" signify? |
| 15:58.30 | SkyFlash__ | *grin* |
| 15:58.40 | pewpewarrows | ahh, ok |
| 15:58.58 | SkyFlash__ | anyone know how the orcanizer works? |
| 16:10.23 | Aii | er, what? |
| 16:12.01 | quirim | http://www.war-europe.com/#/orcanizer/?lang=en |
| 16:12.08 | SkyFlash__ | the orcanizer... |
| 16:13.10 | SkyFlash__ | hm... that will be ineteresting :P |
| 16:13.11 | Aii | I see... |
| 16:13.36 | SkyFlash__ | as the beta servers are down, i prolly have to prototype it in PHP |
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| 16:33.47 | nicoli_s | is the elder server up? |
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| 16:40.23 | Aii | nicoli_s: it was last night |
| 16:40.32 | Aii | don't know about today, havent checked since i woke up :P |
| 16:42.25 | Chryso | http://www.fhm.com/asp_code/bigeyelinks/link.asp?http://www.break.com/index/yoga-is-my-new-favorite-sport.html |
| 16:46.00 | Aii | um...is that sfw Chryso |
| 16:46.00 | Chryso | sfw ? |
| 16:46.00 | Aii | safe for work |
| 16:46.00 | Chryso | depends on work, but i d say yes |
| 16:46.00 | Aii | as opposed to nsfw, not safe for work |
| 16:46.01 | Chryso | it would be at my place |
| 17:11.16 | `Zypher | morning |
| 17:11.20 | nicoli_s | heya |
| 17:11.24 | Chryso | ning |
| 17:11.29 | Aii | g'morning `Zypher |
| 17:13.00 | `Zypher | uhhh |
| 17:13.22 | `Zypher | I think I did something to the roof of my mouth >.> |
| 17:17.48 | pewpewarrows | what exactly |
| 17:17.53 | pewpewarrows | and morning btw |
| 17:19.32 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: you know when it just feels kinda painful to touch with your tongue |
| 17:19.42 | `Zypher | I might have burned it on some pizza or something. |
| 17:19.55 | pewpewarrows | ahh ok |
| 17:20.12 | pewpewarrows | yeah I burn it with tea all the time |
| 17:20.24 | pewpewarrows | mine's starting to get used to it :P |
| 17:20.28 | `Zypher | lol |
| 17:21.50 | `Zypher | Aii: do you have any recent info on open, some guild douches want info. |
| 17:24.49 | Aii | they still havent finalized the ruleset |
| 17:25.05 | Aii | so tell them to shut up already :P |
| 17:25.23 | Chryso | who sets up the svn at curse, if you have someone that does it^^? |
| 17:26.24 | Aii | the svn setup per project is done automatically... |
| 17:26.35 | Aii | unless you just mean an adminstrator who has access to change things |
| 17:26.38 | Chryso | that is not what i care about :) |
| 17:26.43 | Chryso | i have a svn |
| 17:26.51 | Chryso | with manually authentification done through auth files |
| 17:26.54 | Chryso | except it ain't working |
| 17:26.58 | Aii | ic |
| 17:26.58 | Chryso | and #svn ain't helping :) |
| 17:27.04 | Aii | um, ckknight might know |
| 17:28.54 | Chryso | k, tx |
| 17:30.03 | `Zypher | anyone have a guild for core, since mine appears to be moderately retarded... They cliam they want a good guild image but still want to gank people... |
| 17:31.08 | pewpewarrows | mine is still waiting on the final orvr ruleset before we make a decision |
| 17:31.13 | pewpewarrows | but as it stands we're going core |
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| 17:33.31 | Aii | honestly... why would you /not/ go core |
| 17:33.36 | Aii | as a guild |
| 17:33.46 | Aii | it's not like there's a lack of pvp on core |
| 17:34.26 | `Zypher | Aii: I know |
| 17:34.32 | `Zypher | but core = wow pve duh... |
| 17:34.47 | `Zypher | atleast thats the general consensus in my guild |
| 17:34.59 | Aii | then your guild is retarded |
| 17:35.09 | Aii | and/or didnt play the preview weekend |
| 17:35.12 | `Zypher | I stated this already. |
| 17:36.13 | quirim | what's core? |
| 17:36.37 | Aii | Core is the standard ruleset that the servers have been running. |
| 17:36.51 | Aii | in your pve areas, you're not flagged by default, everyone is flagged in rvr areas. |
| 17:37.03 | `Zypher | :'( |
| 17:37.05 | quirim | aahh |
| 17:37.06 | Aii | open is (so far) you're flagged everywhere. |
| 17:37.39 | `Zypher | quirim: all the wow kiddies seem to attribute Core = PvE, Open = PvP |
| 17:37.52 | `Zypher | which is getting kinda old at this point since its not |
| 17:38.00 | `Zypher | people are just silly. |
| 17:38.01 | quirim | lol |
| 17:38.18 | quirim | so which do you guys prefer? |
| 17:38.26 | `Zypher | Core |
| 17:38.46 | `Zypher | I'm all about consensual pvp |
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| 17:39.02 | quirim | ah |
| 17:39.05 | `Zypher | I don't think getting ganked is fun, or ganking someone is fun. |
| 17:39.14 | `Zypher | so I don't rofl |
| 17:39.49 | Aii | Core is better for skilled pvp anyways. |
| 17:40.07 | pewpewarrows | how so? |
| 17:40.41 | Aii | In that your opponents are actually prepared? And thus more of a challenge |
| 17:41.04 | SkyFlash | ya just that all skilled players play on openrvr lol |
| 17:41.12 | Aii | Except they don't. |
| 17:41.24 | SkyFlash | well look at the polls.. they will |
| 17:41.27 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: I wont be. |
| 17:41.44 | `Zypher | Aii: probably wont be from what I'm getting here. |
| 17:41.44 | SkyFlash | well most will... |
| 17:41.47 | Aii | care to link to whatever poll you're looking at, SkyFlash ? |
| 17:41.50 | `Zypher | yea |
| 17:41.55 | `Zypher | I would like to see this aswell |
| 17:42.03 | SkyFlash | it's in german lol.. |
| 17:42.08 | Aii | link it anyways. |
| 17:42.26 | `Zypher | polls can still be read no matter what language |
| 17:42.28 | `Zypher | and germans |
| 17:42.32 | `Zypher | who cares about EU |
| 17:42.37 | quirim | :( |
| 17:42.38 | quirim | I do. |
| 17:42.48 | SkyFlash | ya lemme find it.. think it was gamona or something |
| 17:43.15 | `Zypher | quirim: sorry mate, its just EU players have different standards from NA players |
| 17:43.41 | `Zypher | even if the majority of the "skilled" EU players go Open that doesn't mean it will reflect the same in NA |
| 17:43.41 | Nyborek | Hey Im EU!!! |
| 17:43.45 | SkyFlash | also i know that most german PvP guilds go openrvr... cause i am in one |
| 17:44.19 | SkyFlash | the whole alliance goes openrvr.. that means like 20 guilds from both sides |
| 17:44.25 | `Zypher | I just don't see the point, I plan on doing RvR in the RvR areas, where it contributes to overall control. |
| 17:44.33 | `Zypher | why RvR anywhere else? |
| 17:44.45 | pewpewarrows | any skirmish RvR contributes points |
| 17:44.54 | Nyborek | cauze it makes the game more realistic! |
| 17:45.10 | SkyFlash | cause thats how its meant to be played... what didnt you understand when they said "WAR is everywhere" *g* |
| 17:45.29 | Nyborek | its lind, question hand in hand Dwarfs and greenskin..LOL |
| 17:45.40 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: do we know that for sure? |
| 17:45.45 | pewpewarrows | yes |
| 17:45.54 | `Zypher | how do you know? |
| 17:46.05 | SkyFlash | god my internet connection sucks so bad |
| 17:46.24 | pewpewarrows | Mythic has always stated that skirmish contributes |
| 17:46.28 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: we already covered the war is everywhere. |
| 17:46.34 | SkyFlash | *g* |
| 17:46.38 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: where, please link. |
| 17:46.43 | pewpewarrows | Questing, Skirmishes, Scenarios, and Battlefield Objectives |
| 17:46.58 | Aii | the question is, what is skirmish defined as |
| 17:46.58 | pewpewarrows | anywhere that describes zone control |
| 17:47.00 | `Zypher | please link >.> |
| 17:47.16 | Aii | skirmish could technically be defined as only within the rvr lakes |
| 17:47.21 | Aii | depending on how they handle it |
| 17:47.22 | `Zypher | do they say that "Skirmishes" include fighting outside the rvr area? |
| 17:47.33 | pewpewarrows | well if everywhere is RvR flagged |
| 17:47.39 | pewpewarrows | then the entire zone is the RvR lake |
| 17:47.44 | Aii | bad assumption |
| 17:47.46 | `Zypher | no it isn't |
| 17:47.52 | pewpewarrows | you can't assume either way |
| 17:47.55 | Aii | yes |
| 17:47.57 | `Zypher | there aren't battlefield objectives all over the map... |
| 17:47.57 | Aii | so dont assume |
| 17:48.03 | Aii | and make definitive statements :P |
| 17:48.44 | `Zypher | food tiem |
| 17:48.47 | `Zypher | brb |
| 17:50.18 | SkyFlash | god they deleted all pre NDA post.. how sick |
| 17:50.39 | Nyborek | are the elder server still up? |
| 17:51.38 | SkyFlash | gee the poll got deleted.. also i dont find the orcanizer code in GOAs flash file... *sigh* |
| 17:52.31 | nicoli_s | yes nyborek |
| 17:52.56 | nicoli_s | err maybe not |
| 17:53.14 | SkyFlash | anyone here that is better at SWF hacking than me? |
| 17:54.04 | Nyborek | thx nicoli, do they already patched the 1,4gcd, ? |
| 17:54.13 | nicoli_s | no clue |
| 17:54.19 | nicoli_s | i just logged in to test some stuff |
| 17:54.46 | Nyborek | GOA sucks ;/ |
| 17:54.56 | nicoli_s | so i hear |
| 17:55.11 | SkyFlash | yes.. they created a orcanizer.swf flash file but put the translation routine somewhere else... |
| 17:55.28 | Nyborek | any performance tweak, yet nicoli_s ? |
| 17:55.49 | nicoli_s | that makes sense skyflash |
| 17:56.04 | nicoli_s | if i did something like that i'd just have a web app that does it, and just pipe the output to the flash file |
| 17:56.22 | nicoli_s | i dunno nyborek, i didnt do anything bu talk to a trainer and log out |
| 17:57.29 | Nyborek | Im jealous :-D |
| 17:59.05 | SkyFlash | ya it does make sense but i hate it :P |
| 17:59.58 | pewpewarrows | `Zypher, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXYEN24B6ik |
| 18:00.04 | pewpewarrows | 1:30 and on |
| 18:01.09 | pewpewarrows | and a skirmish is defined as 1+ vs 1+ pvp combat |
| 18:02.25 | pewpewarrows | but, given, skirmishes obviously contribute a lot less than BOs, Keeps, and Scenarios |
| 18:02.28 | pewpewarrows | or so I can imagine |
| 18:02.58 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: but it never difines where a skirmish can take place. |
| 18:03.02 | `Zypher | so we can only speculate. |
| 18:03.08 | `Zypher | lets just drop it. |
| 18:03.08 | `Zypher | lol |
| 18:03.16 | pewpewarrows | now you're just arguing semantics |
| 18:03.31 | Aii | well, that's all there really is to argue with atm |
| 18:03.31 | pewpewarrows | but yes, it's not going to contribute much |
| 18:03.38 | Aii | until mythic makes a definitive statement |
| 18:04.32 | pewpewarrows | `Zypher, did you roll on a PvP server in WoW? |
| 18:05.05 | Nyborek | guess, she didnt ;) |
| 18:05.08 | `Zypher | I played on both |
| 18:05.16 | `Zypher | Nyborek: I'm a he. |
| 18:05.30 | Nyborek | oO |
| 18:05.42 | Aii | I'm the she here o.o |
| 18:06.01 | `Zypher | o.O |
| 18:06.02 | Nyborek | uhm..nevermind |
| 18:06.04 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 18:06.25 | pewpewarrows | did you prefer one over the other? |
| 18:06.26 | Nyborek | Im bad at multitasking |
| 18:06.32 | Nyborek | hrhr |
| 18:07.37 | `Zypher | PvP because it tended to have a larger player base. |
| 18:07.51 | pewpewarrows | gotcha |
| 18:08.27 | `Zypher | why? |
| 18:08.33 | pewpewarrows | j/w |
| 18:08.41 | `Zypher | ok |
| 18:08.47 | `Zypher | http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Calabria/video/x1zphy_alex-gaudino-destination-unknown-ca_music |
| 18:09.26 | pewpewarrows | I know I rolled on PvP because it was much more competitive, and because I much preferred the "spontaneous" pvp that would happen in zones over the structured areas |
| 18:09.48 | Aii | the rvr lakes are plenty spontaeous for me o.o |
| 18:10.11 | Aii | i just dont see the point of ganking someone who's fighting a mob |
| 18:10.23 | Aii | which is the only real difference between spontaneous pvp in an rvr lake |
| 18:10.24 | `Zypher | same. |
| 18:10.29 | Aii | and spontaneous pvp in a pve area |
| 18:11.08 | pewpewarrows | I like attempting to be ganked while fighting a mob |
| 18:11.23 | `Zypher | most people don. |
| 18:11.40 | pewpewarrows | yeah, and that's understandable |
| 18:11.51 | Aii | pewpewarrows: In the best case scenario, I don't really find that any more engaging than fighting someone regularly |
| 18:12.03 | Aii | and in the worst case scenario, I'm just trying to get some stupid task over with |
| 18:12.18 | Aii | so I really don't see how that's an improvement overall in the fun category |
| 18:12.35 | pewpewarrows | I also like fighting over something important in the "PvE" area |
| 18:12.49 | Aii | as opposed to fighting over something important in the pvp area? |
| 18:12.56 | pewpewarrows | not opposed |
| 18:12.59 | pewpewarrows | I like both |
| 18:13.10 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: the most fun pvp I had in world of warcraft was fighting for the world dragons |
| 18:13.18 | pewpewarrows | yeah, exactly |
| 18:13.20 | `Zypher | so I guess I understand that |
| 18:13.22 | Aii | they just need to add more quests to the rvr lakes |
| 18:13.27 | `Zypher | ya |
| 18:13.28 | Aii | I wouldnt mind that at all |
| 18:13.31 | pewpewarrows | okay, that I'd agree with |
| 18:13.50 | pewpewarrows | if they added more quests, and maybe some pve'ish stuff to fight over in there |
| 18:14.04 | Aii | I liked the very minimal ones in nordland rvr |
| 18:14.07 | Aii | if they expanded that |
| 18:14.09 | pewpewarrows | then I would never care about an ORvR ruleset again |
| 18:14.13 | pewpewarrows | I agree Aii |
| 18:14.17 | Aii | and increased the # to fit the scale of the t4 rvr lakes |
| 18:14.23 | Aii | that would be ideal, imo |
| 18:14.27 | pewpewarrows | well |
| 18:14.31 | pewpewarrows | perhaps when more lairs are discovered |
| 18:14.36 | pewpewarrows | and if some are in RvR lakes |
| 18:14.43 | Aii | *nod* |
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| 18:14.49 | pewpewarrows | that could make for some interesting skirmishes |
| 18:15.02 | `Zypher | haha |
| 18:15.04 | pewpewarrows | are there any PQs in RvR lakes? |
| 18:15.06 | `Zypher | I think we all agree now |
| 18:15.29 | `Zypher | well there are pqs that both sides can do |
| 18:15.32 | `Zypher | so I would assume yes |
| 18:15.32 | Aii | pq's in rvr lakes would be neat |
| 18:15.40 | Aii | havent seen any though |
| 18:15.40 | pewpewarrows | neat |
| 18:15.40 | `Zypher | that would be the only way to accomplish that |
| 18:16.08 | pewpewarrows | oh, well I guess killing a keep lord is technically a PQ |
| 18:16.44 | `Zypher | ya |
| 18:16.47 | `Zypher | fudgies |
| 18:16.48 | nicoli_s | anyone in here good with calculus 1/2 ? |
| 18:17.06 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: I love how my guild thought they could do dkp |
| 18:17.09 | pewpewarrows | btw the herald announcement that the guild owning the keep's standard tactics apply to the whole region and that they gain exp for how long they hold a keep? |
| 18:17.10 | pewpewarrows | pure win |
| 18:17.26 | pewpewarrows | if I can remember nicoli_s, sure, go for it |
| 18:17.55 | nicoli_s | well i'm trying to remember what needs to be done to take a list of data and get the equation of the line that best fits it |
| 18:18.07 | pewpewarrows | I think that completely solves some people's complaints about there not being any incentive to hold a keep |
| 18:18.25 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 18:19.00 | pewpewarrows | yeah all I remember about that is plugging in points into my calculator and plotting the best fit line |
| 18:19.52 | nicoli_s | thx anyways, think i found it |
| 18:20.04 | Aii | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_squares#Linear_least_squares |
| 18:20.19 | pewpewarrows | brb |
| 18:25.18 | `Zypher | Aii: why am I so bored? |
| 18:25.29 | Aii | `Zypher: because you have no life? :| |
| 18:26.07 | `Zypher | Aii: so? |
| 18:26.20 | `Zypher | that shouldn't lead to me being bored. |
| 18:30.37 | Aii | haha @ the first 12 responses here: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64341 |
| 18:31.39 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 18:31.46 | pewpewarrows | "Information. You lack it." |
| 18:37.00 | `Zypher | Aii: this thread makes me happy |
| 18:37.14 | `Zypher | your open vs core thread |
| 18:48.26 | `Zypher | Aii: wow, your thread gets more and more retarded the more I read |
| 18:50.55 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 18:51.23 | pewpewarrows | I'm trying to think whether mythic will ever get rid of the green eagle and red skull in place of portraits |
| 18:51.42 | pewpewarrows | if they had customized portraits for a target, then there would have to be an api call to get the class of your target |
| 18:53.09 | nicoli_s | class? |
| 18:53.15 | `Zypher | career |
| 18:53.20 | `Zypher | hes in wow mode |
| 18:53.57 | Aii | pewpewarrows: no, they won't |
| 18:54.02 | Aii | most likely, that is |
| 18:54.11 | Aii | they don't want people just tabbing until they see a healer class |
| 18:54.13 | pewpewarrows | yeah I don't see it happening |
| 18:54.19 | pewpewarrows | yeah I meant career |
| 18:54.28 | pewpewarrows | they were called classes in Guild Wars too |
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| 18:54.36 | pewpewarrows | that's where I have the habit from |
| 18:54.39 | Aii | class/career is interchangable as far as im concerned |
| 18:55.33 | pewpewarrows | then I guess mythic wouldn't be too happy with me parsing their realm war site, getting the class of every player on the server, and providing it as a library for any addon to access :P |
| 18:56.41 | pewpewarrows | and my god, that thread of yours Aii went to hell quickly |
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| 18:56.53 | pewpewarrows | I feel more dumb just reading through these pages |
| 18:57.23 | pewpewarrows | I don't even know what they're talking about anymore |
| 18:57.44 | smcn | what thread? |
| 18:57.48 | SkyFlash_ | lol |
| 19:00.49 | Aii | . |
| 19:01.37 | nicoli_s | http://www.wardb.com/screenshot.aspx?id=87#87 man that set looks goofy |
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| 19:04.17 | `Zypher | Aii: why does the internet make people stupid? |
| 19:04.30 | Aii | `Zypher: anonymity |
| 19:04.57 | Aii | means people dont have to bother thinking before they speak |
| 19:05.11 | Aii | lunchtime for me, back later |
| 19:05.14 | `Zypher | :P |
| 19:05.16 | `Zypher | cya |
| 19:05.45 | smcn | you're missing something in that equation, it's anonymity + audience = total fuckwad :P |
| 19:07.36 | `Zypher | welcome all /b/tards |
| 19:07.43 | `Zypher | we now own the internets |
| 19:08.05 | SkyFlash_ | rotfl |
| 19:08.29 | SkyFlash_ | are you guys working with a lua IDE? |
| 19:08.48 | SkyFlash_ | i am just downloading one and wondering if there is a good choice |
| 19:09.14 | `Zypher | you can only do so much with one SkyFlash before its like rofl I need the game to test |
| 19:09.21 | SkyFlash_ | ya i know... |
| 19:09.41 | SkyFlash_ | i was just thinking to test my orcish translation routine before the servers are up... |
| 19:09.43 | `Zypher | ckknight: did you ever mess around with the wow addon thing microsoft put out? |
| 19:10.01 | ckknight | microsoft put out something? |
| 19:10.01 | SkyFlash_ | what microsoft released a wow addon????? |
| 19:10.01 | ckknight | first I've heard of this |
| 19:10.12 | `Zypher | I thought they had some kind of Visual Studio plugin for wow |
| 19:10.14 | `Zypher | hold on |
| 19:10.29 | SkyFlash_ | they or someone... |
| 19:11.00 | pewpewarrows | yeah I thought I recalled them doing that as well |
| 19:12.01 | `Zypher | http://www.codeplex.com/WarcraftAddOnStudio |
| 19:12.06 | `Zypher | dunno if its microsoft |
| 19:12.10 | `Zypher | but its something |
| 19:12.18 | ckknight | yea, I use a Mac |
| 19:12.21 | `Zypher | idk where I got the ide ait was microsoft |
| 19:12.23 | `Zypher | I know |
| 19:12.26 | `Zypher | but you has wine |
| 19:12.29 | `Zypher | right? |
| 19:13.14 | ckknight | not like I use it that often |
| 19:15.10 | `Zypher | bah |
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| 19:28.50 | Chryso | night |
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| 19:35.18 | nicoli_s | the mathematic symbol that looks like a big E means add from whatever to whatever right? |
| 19:36.30 | ckknight | you mean the summation symbol? |
| 19:36.36 | nicoli_s | yah |
| 19:36.38 | ckknight | â? |
| 19:36.43 | nicoli_s | that's it |
| 19:36.46 | nicoli_s | was just making sure |
| 19:36.58 | nicoli_s | i can't google "that thing that looks like a big E" and get any hits :P |
| 19:37.45 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 19:37.52 | pewpewarrows | but you can certainly try ^^ |
| 19:40.01 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: im still sleepy |
| 19:40.04 | `Zypher | and its almost 1pm |
| 19:40.05 | `Zypher | :( |
| 19:40.24 | pewpewarrows | I'm always sleepy |
| 19:40.37 | nicoli_s | i'm writing some code that will basically calculate the amount that the damage/healing/other effects increases per level |
| 19:40.39 | pewpewarrows | by the time I'm actually awake I'm tired from the day's work |
| 19:40.45 | pewpewarrows | hence sleepy again |
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| 19:44.00 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: for da career calc? |
| 19:44.49 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 19:45.05 | nicoli_s | got to outshine the mmo guild sites one |
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| 19:46.41 | pewpewarrows | heh |
| 19:46.58 | `Zypher | link me? |
| 19:47.08 | nicoli_s | http://war.mmoguildsites.com/career_planner/black_orc |
| 19:49.46 | `Zypher | thats not bad lol |
| 19:59.15 | nicoli_s | which is exactly why it must be crushed |
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| 20:30.13 | Aii | nicoli_s: the "big E" is called a sigma. it's a greek letter :P |
| 20:30.21 | netcurse | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.22 | netcurse | This addon adds a small FPS counter. It displays the current FPS and an average over the last 30 frames. (Displayed as "Cur | Avg") Disclaimer This addon is named Approximate FPS because the calculated FPS is accurate as long as the following assumption ... |
| 20:30.34 | netcurse | aii can you look at it please |
| 20:32.16 | ghostfish | what does an addon have over fraps? |
| 20:33.52 | Aii | netcurse: look at it for what? |
| 20:34.27 | netcurse | if it's safe! |
| 20:34.38 | Aii | it's a project o_O |
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| 20:36.32 | Aii | netcurse: to be more specific, it's just a project, they havent submitted any files or committed to the repository at all yet |
| 20:36.54 | Aii | but I don't see why it wouldn't be safe, so I'm going to approve it... was planning on writing something of my own anyways like that |
| 20:37.09 | netcurse | ok |
| 20:37.20 | AckisWork | Aii: errr I just approved it... |
| 20:37.32 | Aii | then we both approved it ackis :P |
| 20:37.37 | Aii | so its doubly approved :P |
| 20:37.39 | AckisWork | double stamp of approval! |
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| 20:42.17 | Daegalus | I APPROVE TOO!!! *puts an invisible non-existant stamp* its 2.12912731231291324133123123214e2 stamp of approval! |
| 20:46.01 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): initial commit |
| 20:46.01 | Repo | version 1.0 |
| 20:46.02 | pewpewarrows | how can a non-existent stamp be invisible? |
| 20:46.08 | `Zypher | wtf |
| 20:46.11 | `Zypher | whats wrong with fraps? |
| 20:46.39 | netcurse | it's not free |
| 20:46.41 | netcurse | =P |
| 20:46.43 | pewpewarrows | positioning |
| 20:46.55 | pewpewarrows | big ugly yellow numerics |
| 20:47.24 | pewpewarrows | system resources (even while idling) |
| 20:47.40 | `Zypher | lies |
| 20:47.42 | `Zypher | it works fine |
| 20:47.54 | `Zypher | and the free one still displays fps |
| 20:47.55 | pewpewarrows | noone said it didnt |
| 20:47.57 | `Zypher | >.> |
| 20:48.20 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r 04v1.0release * r3 : Tagging as v1.0release. |
| 20:48.39 | *** part/#waruidev AckisWork (i=8ee55c79@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 20:49.52 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r 04v1.0release * r4 : tagged without auto packagin enabled |
| 20:50.28 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r 04v1.0release * r5 : Tagging as v1.0release. |
| 20:50.43 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 20:52.41 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r 04v1.01release * r6 : Tagging as v1.01release. |
| 20:52.58 | pewpewarrows | that's the beauty of Repo |
| 20:53.05 | ckknight | who is test0r? |
| 20:53.09 | pewpewarrows | exposes all your inadequacies |
| 20:53.14 | pewpewarrows | and mistakes :P |
| 20:53.17 | ckknight | he's very inadequate. |
| 20:53.32 | ckknight | see, if he had just turned auto-packaging on, it would've caught it anyway |
| 20:53.37 | ckknight | no need to recommit |
| 20:53.40 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 20:54.03 | Aii | ckknight: i wonder if some people dont realize that the packager only runs on a time delay |
| 20:54.13 | Aii | so they tag, don't see a file appear, and wonder what's going on |
| 20:54.19 | pewpewarrows | there's no patience on the internet! |
| 20:55.58 | smcn | just wait for the curseforge ticket ;) |
| 20:56.36 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): stupid auto packaging |
| 20:57.18 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 20:57.26 | pewpewarrows | this is going well |
| 20:57.45 | Repo | approxfps: 03test0r 04v1.02release * r8 : Tagging as v1.02release. |
| 20:57.50 | Aii | ckknight: I added a section to the repository FAQ |
| 20:57.53 | `Zypher | Aii: I didn't |
| 20:57.57 | ckknight | k, thanks |
| 20:58.05 | ckknight | wtf |
| 20:58.05 | Aii | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/pages/repository-faq/#w_i-tagged-my-project-but-i-dont-see-a-file-made |
| 20:58.08 | smcn | he'll get it in 2 minutes |
| 20:58.09 | ckknight | part of me wants to ban test0r now |
| 20:58.11 | ckknight | srsly. |
| 20:58.15 | `Zypher | lol |
| 20:58.17 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 20:58.17 | `Zypher | do it! |
| 20:58.21 | smcn | when he's got 5 versions on the page |
| 20:58.28 | `Zypher | haha |
| 20:58.36 | smcn | or 10.. depends on how soon he gives up |
| 20:58.40 | pewpewarrows | if he tags a v1.03 |
| 20:58.42 | pewpewarrows | then do it |
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| 20:59.35 | ckknight | Nyborek: you're not test0r, are you? |
| 20:59.45 | Nyborek | Im |
| 20:59.51 | Nyborek | but EU :-/ |
| 20:59.58 | pewpewarrows | no |
| 21:00.02 | pewpewarrows | is your alias test0r |
| 21:00.05 | pewpewarrows | on CF |
| 21:00.23 | Nyborek | cf? |
| 21:00.30 | pewpewarrows | curseforge |
| 21:00.39 | Nyborek | but I never used test0r for anything |
| 21:00.40 | Nyborek | not |
| 21:00.41 | Nyborek | no |
| 21:00.45 | ckknight | okay then |
| 21:01.09 | Nyborek | but why I should be ? oO |
| 21:01.11 | pewpewarrows | ok I'm leaving work, let me know what happens when I get back in like 10-15 |
| 21:01.25 | ckknight | yep, and now test0r has 4 files on his repo |
| 21:01.44 | `Zypher | lol |
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| 21:02.23 | Nyborek | why u guys think I this guy ? =-O |
| 21:02.43 | smcn | it's a mystery |
| 21:02.56 | smcn | most people posting war mods on curseforge are in this chan :P |
| 21:03.01 | smcn | is why^ |
| 21:03.08 | ckknight | Nyborek: don't worry about it. |
| 21:03.25 | Nyborek | ok, see the fps thing ;) |
| 21:04.49 | `Zypher | I'm really tempted to try AoC |
| 21:04.53 | `Zypher | just to see how it runs |
| 21:05.30 | Takeshii | Ugh, I myself would not recomend that game to anyone. |
| 21:05.38 | `Zypher | not for playing |
| 21:05.44 | `Zypher | I just want to see how my comp runs it |
| 21:05.48 | `Zypher | :P |
| 21:05.51 | Takeshii | regardless |
| 21:06.02 | Takeshii | theres more punishing games graphically than AoC |
| 21:06.22 | Aii | *cough* Crysys |
| 21:06.30 | Takeshii | Aye |
| 21:06.32 | Aii | *Crysis |
| 21:06.43 | Aii | y's, i's, they're all the same right? |
| 21:06.55 | `Zypher | Aii: I can run Crysis on max with 8AA/AF |
| 21:07.14 | Nyborek | Zypher lol wthats ur rig? |
| 21:07.14 | `Zypher | but theres never loads of people on screen like in an mmo |
| 21:07.30 | `Zypher | AMD Athlon X2 6400+ Black Editionn |
| 21:07.35 | Nyborek | gpu? |
| 21:07.43 | `Zypher | 8800GTS 512 SLI |
| 21:07.45 | `Zypher | so two |
| 21:07.46 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:07.49 | Aii | if you want a test of CPU power (for "loads of stuff on the screen") run SupComm |
| 21:08.09 | `Zypher | you don't understand |
| 21:08.14 | `Zypher | its not for the stress |
| 21:08.15 | Nyborek | Im on q6600 @ 3,6mhz 4 gig ram and 4870 and ATI 512 MB, cant play with 2 AA its to slow means under 25 fps |
| 21:08.39 | Aii | and besides, with AoC's playerbase you wont have loads of people on the screen anyways :P |
| 21:08.43 | `Zypher | I avg around 28fps on those settings |
| 21:08.44 | Takeshii | Really Nuborek? |
| 21:08.50 | Takeshii | Nyborek* |
| 21:08.52 | Nyborek | yes |
| 21:09.10 | `Zypher | so idk whatsup lol |
| 21:09.11 | Nyborek | I also play on full hd 26" |
| 21:09.15 | Takeshii | Im running a 9950BE quad at 3.0 with a 4870 and can get away with 4x |
| 21:09.19 | `Zypher | that would be why Nyborek |
| 21:09.20 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:09.22 | Nyborek | but w/o AA Im on 64 fps + |
| 21:09.38 | Nyborek | Zypher, why what? |
| 21:09.47 | `Zypher | your resolution |
| 21:09.54 | `Zypher | is whats knocking your fps |
| 21:09.59 | Takeshii | Bah i didnt consider resolution |
| 21:10.02 | Nyborek | 1980x1200 yes necessery with 26" -.- |
| 21:10.15 | Takeshii | Im running the measilly 1440x900 |
| 21:10.16 | `Zypher | I only run at 1440x900 |
| 21:10.18 | Takeshii | that explains it |
| 21:10.19 | `Zypher | ya lol |
| 21:10.19 | Nyborek | but anyways crysis has ONLY desgned fpr nvidia cards |
| 21:10.22 | Freddy09 | hi! |
| 21:10.30 | Nyborek | ATI always sucked for crysis, |
| 21:10.36 | Takeshii | yar |
| 21:10.37 | `Zypher | Nyborek: ATI sucks for AA too |
| 21:10.40 | Takeshii | Nope |
| 21:10.41 | `Zypher | you can't push over 8aa |
| 21:10.43 | Nyborek | but nevermind, crysis just sucks ;) |
| 21:10.45 | Takeshii | they fixe that in the 4 series |
| 21:10.50 | Freddy09 | ati is great for AA |
| 21:10.52 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 21:10.53 | Nyborek | ATI pwns AA |
| 21:10.57 | `Zypher | my brothers can't push over 8aa |
| 21:11.00 | `Zypher | I can get up to 32aa |
| 21:11.02 | Nyborek | 4870 ist the best GPU for AA atm |
| 21:11.02 | `Zypher | >.> |
| 21:11.06 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 21:11.10 | Freddy09 | 4870x2 |
| 21:11.13 | Freddy09 | but neways |
| 21:11.13 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 21:11.19 | `Zypher | I will always use nvidia |
| 21:11.25 | `Zypher | I don't care if ati is better atm |
| 21:11.27 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:11.27 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:11.28 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:11.29 | Nyborek | unplayable but even faster as nvidia |
| 21:11.40 | Takeshii | My last nvidia was shipped defective, so i bought a 4870 xD |
| 21:11.45 | `Zypher | nvidia tends to have better support for games imo |
| 21:11.45 | Nyborek | ATIs hardware is good, but drivers are sooo bad :-( |
| 21:11.49 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:11.52 | Freddy09 | so i've heard |
| 21:11.54 | Freddy09 | lol zypher |
| 21:11.59 | `Zypher | and ati sucks for linux |
| 21:12.01 | Freddy09 | wel |
| 21:12.03 | Freddy09 | there you go |
| 21:12.03 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:12.05 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:12.11 | Freddy09 | nvidia and ati are pretty even for games |
| 21:12.17 | Freddy09 | except games that were made for the specific cards |
| 21:12.19 | Freddy09 | a la crysis |
| 21:12.20 | Freddy09 | >.> |
| 21:12.21 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:12.28 | `Zypher | theres a fly in my room |
| 21:12.32 | `Zypher | circling me infinitely |
| 21:12.33 | Freddy09 | catch it in your hands |
| 21:12.34 | `Zypher | idk why. |
| 21:12.35 | Freddy09 | and crush |
| 21:12.39 | test0r | yo |
| 21:12.42 | `Zypher | then its on my hands tho |
| 21:12.47 | test0r | I AM HERE |
| 21:12.49 | Nyborek | I remember seen the nvidia logo @ warhammer website |
| 21:12.51 | `Zypher | test0r: we all saw that! |
| 21:13.00 | `Zypher | Nyborek: its in the footer |
| 21:13.11 | Freddy09 | so is it confirmed that WAR has poor sli support ATM? |
| 21:13.14 | Nyborek | so its corporate partner? |
| 21:13.32 | Freddy09 | nyborek, it's a partner, but the game isn't biased towards NVIDIA |
| 21:13.35 | Freddy09 | they will run evenly |
| 21:13.36 | `Zypher | Freddy09: yes I can confirm sli works poorly atm |
| 21:13.39 | Freddy09 | k |
| 21:13.44 | Freddy09 | wut about Xfire? |
| 21:13.48 | Takeshii | Same problem with xfire? |
| 21:13.54 | Nyborek | U may rember the bad ground graphik at warhammer online? |
| 21:14.00 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:14.01 | `Zypher | I don't know about xfire but its such a similar tech I would assume so |
| 21:14.08 | Freddy09 | i guess |
| 21:14.09 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 21:14.10 | Freddy09 | o well |
| 21:14.20 | Nyborek | I guess it was called Mipmap? |
| 21:14.35 | Freddy09 | that's a type of texture |
| 21:14.39 | Freddy09 | i think |
| 21:14.39 | `Zypher | Freddy09: I sent in quite a few benchmarks with different rendering modes to them |
| 21:14.40 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 21:14.42 | Nyborek | with an ATI graphiccard it looks so much smoother |
| 21:14.56 | `Zypher | Freddy09: in all of them SLI-Disabled > any SLI mode |
| 21:14.58 | Freddy09 | good call zypher |
| 21:14.58 | Nyborek | U almost dont see it |
| 21:15.00 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:15.01 | Freddy09 | wow |
| 21:15.03 | Freddy09 | so |
| 21:15.08 | Freddy09 | it's not a gain at all? not evenl ike 2%? |
| 21:15.12 | Freddy09 | it's worse? |
| 21:15.15 | `Zypher | theres a loss |
| 21:15.20 | Takeshii | Wow |
| 21:15.22 | Freddy09 | sad |
| 21:15.29 | Takeshii | Thats interesting |
| 21:15.39 | Aii | always thought SLI was a waste anyways :P |
| 21:15.42 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:15.43 | `Zypher | Freddy09: but I would assume SLI support is inevitable with the amount of stress it puts on cards in rvr |
| 21:15.49 | Freddy09 | yea, i figure |
| 21:15.57 | Freddy09 | just mean if it's confirmed ATM |
| 21:15.57 | Freddy09 | :P |
| 21:16.09 | Freddy09 | could be weeks after release that they get that fixed out |
| 21:16.11 | Aii | well, it's a known bug if that's what you mean |
| 21:16.21 | Freddy09 | sad |
| 21:16.21 | `Zypher | Freddy09: also daoc had sli support after the atlantis expansion |
| 21:16.29 | Freddy09 | i was making it known to myself aii :( |
| 21:16.46 | Freddy09 | not that i use sli, just was wondering for upgrades etc |
| 21:16.48 | `Zypher | http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone2_game.html |
| 21:16.58 | `Zypher | Dark Age of Camelot: Atlantis |
| 21:17.00 | `Zypher | is listed |
| 21:17.03 | `Zypher | so they know how to do it! |
| 21:17.06 | Takeshii | I wish i had tried DaoC |
| 21:17.22 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:17.24 | Freddy09 | yay |
| 21:17.25 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:17.32 | Freddy09 | I was tring to get into it like a year ago |
| 21:17.36 | Freddy09 | graphics aren't appealing enough for me |
| 21:17.36 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 21:17.42 | Takeshii | Friends pulled me into SWG back in the day though |
| 21:17.50 | Takeshii | then SoE broke the game |
| 21:18.16 | `Zypher | Takeshii: Old Republic is getting made by bioware into an mmo |
| 21:18.16 | `Zypher | :D |
| 21:18.18 | Freddy09 | imo all good games were broke by some mistake on the developers |
| 21:18.28 | Freddy09 | well all good mmos |
| 21:18.31 | Takeshii | Ive heard. Thought it was just a rumor though |
| 21:18.39 | `Zypher | Takeshii: its confirmed |
| 21:18.46 | Takeshii | *drool*\ |
| 21:18.48 | `Zypher | I can't wait |
| 21:18.48 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:18.51 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:18.53 | Aii | with most games |
| 21:18.54 | `Zypher | Bioware is awesome with their games too |
| 21:19.02 | `Zypher | The Witcher is amazing |
| 21:19.03 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:19.10 | Aii | it's "you can please everyone some of the time, and some people all of the time, but not everyone all of the time" |
| 21:19.13 | Aii | with MMOs |
| 21:19.20 | Aii | it's just "you can please some people some of the time" |
| 21:19.55 | Takeshii | I dont know if i can get caught up in watching/waiting for another mmo |
| 21:19.55 | `Zypher | Aii: its much to hard to make everyone happy |
| 21:19.57 | Nyborek | hey I played the witcher some time |
| 21:20.05 | `Zypher | Nyborek: its fun eh? |
| 21:20.08 | Nyborek | its great, great graphic |
| 21:20.13 | Nyborek | great combats |
| 21:20.14 | `Zypher | Nyborek: ya, it looks amazing |
| 21:20.24 | Nyborek | and the alchemy tree was very cool |
| 21:20.40 | Nyborek | but it fast get boring, because yea its single player :-/ |
| 21:21.00 | Nyborek | I also tried Drakensang, its cool,too |
| 21:21.03 | Takeshii | Eh single player isnt a bad thing...*points to Elder Scrolls* |
| 21:21.05 | Nyborek | if u ever heard of it |
| 21:21.13 | Nyborek | german game ;) |
| 21:21.41 | `Zypher | nope, I don't mind rpg games |
| 21:21.49 | `Zypher | sometimes when I'm downloading things I play them |
| 21:21.55 | Nyborek | hrhr |
| 21:21.56 | `Zypher | since I don't have to worry about lag lol |
| 21:22.12 | Nyborek | never had problems with lag in mmorpgs |
| 21:22.24 | Nyborek | only one the headstart of wow |
| 21:22.25 | Nyborek | ;) |
| 21:22.46 | Takeshii | The only time i lag is when I upload...given I only have 35kb/s of upload |
| 21:22.56 | Freddy09 | lol i got 54 |
| 21:22.59 | Freddy09 | high five on the low upload! |
| 21:23.29 | *** join/#waruidev pewpewarrows (n=pewpewar@c-68-49-103-200.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) |
| 21:23.49 | `Zypher | I've got slow down / up in general |
| 21:23.54 | `Zypher | 1.5mb/s down |
| 21:24.04 | `Zypher | 156kb/s up |
| 21:24.06 | `Zypher | :| |
| 21:24.16 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:24.25 | Freddy09 | i've got 10mb/s split between 6 pc |
| 21:24.26 | Freddy09 | ;( |
| 21:24.40 | `Zypher | well |
| 21:24.45 | Takeshii | I have comcast...they lie on their speeds lol |
| 21:24.54 | Freddy09 | speedtest.net |
| 21:24.55 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:24.59 | `Zypher | my dad seems to think its necessary to have 100$ a month tv package |
| 21:25.03 | `Zypher | and shitty internets |
| 21:25.03 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 21:25.08 | Freddy09 | that's retarded |
| 21:25.12 | `Zypher | yes it is |
| 21:25.15 | `Zypher | then he bitches at me |
| 21:25.16 | `Zypher | when I download |
| 21:25.18 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:25.21 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 21:25.22 | Freddy09 | patch your oruter |
| 21:25.23 | Takeshii | They say 3mb/s download...but they burst it so you only get like 10 seconds of highspeed, then a sustained 300-450kb/s |
| 21:25.23 | Freddy09 | router |
| 21:25.26 | Freddy09 | to handle more connections |
| 21:25.30 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:25.39 | Freddy09 | i can DL without laggin the internet at all anymore |
| 21:25.42 | Freddy09 | afte ri patched my router |
| 21:25.44 | `Zypher | its just I use up all the bandwidth |
| 21:25.54 | Freddy09 | fail |
| 21:26.02 | `Zypher | AT&T intarwebs fail. |
| 21:26.11 | Freddy09 | least it's not satellite |
| 21:26.12 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 21:26.12 | `Zypher | but its still better then comcast |
| 21:26.20 | `Zypher | comcast fails at the intarweb |
| 21:26.25 | Freddy09 | verizon is the way to go ATM |
| 21:26.46 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:26.46 | Freddy09 | but |
| 21:26.49 | Freddy09 | it's comcastic? |
| 21:27.24 | Takeshii | Comcraptic |
| 21:27.41 | `Zypher | they actually have limiting shit on their network |
| 21:27.44 | `Zypher | so if you download a lot |
| 21:27.50 | `Zypher | they can limit your download speeds |
| 21:27.57 | Takeshii | Yep, I see it alot |
| 21:28.04 | Takeshii | I buy most my games through steam |
| 21:28.09 | `Zypher | thats pretty much aids. |
| 21:28.21 | `Zypher | http://gizmodo.com/5019367/aftermarket-xbox-360-case-reduces-noise-heat-and-design |
| 21:28.24 | `Zypher | Lian-Li does it again |
| 21:28.29 | Nyborek | Zypher: u in elder ce beta? |
| 21:28.44 | `Zypher | Nyborek: nope :( |
| 21:28.58 | Nyborek | uhm thought |
| 21:29.13 | `Zypher | im in CE beta |
| 21:29.15 | CowBook | i'm actually glad i'm not in elder beta |
| 21:29.16 | `Zypher | and EU beta |
| 21:29.20 | CowBook | it gives me more time to work on my music |
| 21:29.21 | CowBook | heh |
| 21:29.25 | Takeshii | lol |
| 21:29.33 | Freddy09 | cowbook is compensating |
| 21:29.44 | Nyborek | -.- |
| 21:29.55 | Takeshii | Team Fortress 2 usually ruins my productivity time... |
| 21:30.00 | `Zypher | Takeshii: same lol |
| 21:30.03 | Daegalus | wow I go away for 20 minutes |
| 21:30.13 | `Zypher | Takeshii: I found this cool sniper script that makes it like TFC |
| 21:30.15 | Daegalus | and ther eare like 20 walls of text from my last message |
| 21:30.29 | CowBook | let me put it this way: creating an addon to facilitate running searches in the AH doesn't get you squat.. but writing a cool song, maybe a few bucks (and you have a cool song in the deal too) |
| 21:30.40 | `Zypher | Takeshii: it makes it so you hold mouse1 and it scopes you, then when you release it shoots |
| 21:30.48 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:30.57 | Freddy09 | i was just kiddin cowbook |
| 21:31.00 | CowBook | :D |
| 21:31.01 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 21:31.08 | Takeshii | `Zypher: o.o Didnt know you could run scripts |
| 21:31.11 | Freddy09 | neways |
| 21:31.14 | `Zypher | Takeshii: lol |
| 21:31.17 | Freddy09 | when you said work on your music i though you meant like a playlist |
| 21:31.17 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 21:31.21 | `Zypher | exec script.cfg |
| 21:31.22 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:31.30 | CowBook | ah |
| 21:31.39 | CowBook | right, yeah.. not quite like that |
| 21:31.43 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:33.21 | `Zypher | CowBook: are you as good as this kid? |
| 21:33.21 | `Zypher | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smE-uIljiGo |
| 21:34.15 | CowBook | http://benalman.com/music/twiceasnice.mp3 |
| 21:34.38 | Takeshii | Is there anyway at all to get some sort of folder structures out of the .myp's? |
| 21:34.39 | CowBook | http://benalman.com/music/trounce.mp3 |
| 21:34.41 | CowBook | :) |
| 21:36.03 | Takeshii | Just trying to make sense of the huge mash of files I extracted...not knowing what im doing errr haha... |
| 21:37.01 | `Zypher | *implodes* |
| 21:37.24 | Aii | You know |
| 21:37.34 | Aii | I'm tempted to make a thread on the forums |
| 21:37.43 | `Zypher | we need it |
| 21:37.44 | `Zypher | imo |
| 21:37.47 | Aii | "Nix open PvP servers, think of the girlfriends" |
| 21:37.59 | Aii | just to see what kind of firestorm it would create |
| 21:38.09 | CowBook | how about just not playing on open pvp servers :P |
| 21:38.39 | `Zypher | CowBook: this is fucking hold music |
| 21:38.41 | `Zypher | im not on hold |
| 21:38.42 | `Zypher | wtf |
| 21:38.44 | CowBook | k |
| 21:38.47 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:38.54 | `Zypher | no its very good |
| 21:38.57 | `Zypher | :D |
| 21:39.05 | CowBook | i tend to a little smoother |
| 21:39.08 | CowBook | trounce is less smooth |
| 21:39.20 | `Zypher | lets have us a listen |
| 21:39.25 | Takeshii | Hence the name? |
| 21:39.37 | `Zypher | Aii: you have to realize most guys who say they play with their girlfriends are liars |
| 21:39.52 | CowBook | my wife is rolling a shaman :D |
| 21:39.56 | Nyborek | Zypher: lol? |
| 21:40.10 | `Zypher | Girls on the internet is a lie. |
| 21:40.15 | Nyborek | no |
| 21:40.17 | `Zypher | Aii: is a rare exception |
| 21:40.23 | Nyborek | pretty girls on the internet is a lie |
| 21:40.25 | Nyborek | hr hr |
| 21:40.25 | `Zypher | CowBook: this is really good :D |
| 21:40.29 | CowBook | thanks |
| 21:40.49 | CowBook | let me tell you something: the last thing you want is a girlfriend or wife who plays mmos with you |
| 21:40.59 | `Zypher | yes |
| 21:41.03 | `Zypher | then its just silly |
| 21:41.06 | CowBook | because she's too busy playing the damn game to pick up after you or cook or anything |
| 21:41.06 | Nyborek | better with you, as w/o u ? |
| 21:41.08 | `Zypher | someone has to be right in the head. |
| 21:41.14 | Daegalus | Cowbok: i would have to disagree |
| 21:41.15 | CowBook | you need someone to do that shit |
| 21:41.22 | CowBook | and i'm lazy |
| 21:41.27 | Daegalus | no its called doing it yourself :P |
| 21:41.29 | CowBook | still, i end up doing it |
| 21:41.39 | CowBook | but damnit, she gets more hooked than i do |
| 21:41.59 | CowBook | still, it's nice to have a pocket healer |
| 21:42.01 | CowBook | heh |
| 21:42.07 | Nyborek | lol |
| 21:42.13 | Daegalus | my gf is going to play with me. so its awesome. We even have a class combo setup that we tried in PW, and we went on domination sprees |
| 21:42.19 | `Zypher | girls tend to get hooked into fantasy more then guys |
| 21:42.39 | CowBook | when we were raiding BWL neither of us got any sleep |
| 21:42.45 | CowBook | it wasn't very productive :D |
| 21:42.53 | CowBook | like, from a RL perspective |
| 21:42.58 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:43.02 | CowBook | from a BWL perspective, it was awesome |
| 21:43.03 | CowBook | heh |
| 21:43.14 | CowBook | well, until we all got totally sick of BWL of course |
| 21:43.26 | Takeshii | My old guild leader, in SWG...His wife played. They held a marriage in game on their anniversary... |
| 21:43.30 | Nyborek | BWL...uhm looong time ago |
| 21:43.34 | CowBook | ok now that's gay |
| 21:43.37 | Daegalus | my gf has always been into pvp, she loves it O.o which made going to this game so freaking easy for both of use from WOW |
| 21:43.37 | lordneon | can i pm you? |
| 21:43.52 | CowBook | Daegalus, my wife is PvE all the way, it makes PvP rough |
| 21:44.01 | CowBook | she's not used to improvising |
| 21:44.05 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:44.24 | Daegalus | my gf actually got me into PVP, i sued to be PVE too, then she dragged me into PVP, and i never looked back |
| 21:44.25 | CowBook | so it's like, half the time i'm soloing, but with her near me |
| 21:44.35 | `Zypher | lordneon: sure |
| 21:44.39 | CowBook | the rest, i'm yelling for heals |
| 21:44.44 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:45.40 | CowBook | maybe i should be the shaman |
| 21:45.42 | Takeshii | CowBook: Yeah it was strange, but eh they were happy I guess... |
| 21:46.00 | CowBook | maybe if we were both shamans ... :D |
| 21:46.10 | Nyborek | anyone has an tip for an goo free mmo to bridge over the time, till War? |
| 21:46.13 | CowBook | playing the squig herder, i can't heal my damn squig |
| 21:46.28 | CowBook | and i can't target the damn thing easily either |
| 21:46.40 | CowBook | i certainly hope mythic gives the SH some love |
| 21:46.49 | Daegalus | well me and her have already gotten a "I already know what your thinking" mode. so I rarely say much during pvp fights, we just synergize very well. And Im playing a DoK shes playing a Witch Elf. Which is kinda funny, since I played a Rogue in wow, and she played a Druid. |
| 21:46.54 | *** join/#waruidev pewpewarrows (n=pewpewar@c-68-49-103-200.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) |
| 21:46.54 | Takeshii | I play a Squig Herder to. I filled in quite a lot of negitive feedback |
| 21:47.11 | CowBook | my wife was a druid too |
| 21:47.21 | CowBook | druid = girly class |
| 21:47.22 | CowBook | heh |
| 21:47.33 | CowBook | it was maybe the worst class for her to play too |
| 21:47.41 | CowBook | since she never changed forms |
| 21:47.43 | Daegalus | my gf got so into her class, she theorycrafted every aspect, and learned them all. she made specs that no one ever used, yet she dominated PVP |
| 21:47.50 | CowBook | lol |
| 21:47.57 | CowBook | you want to trade girls? |
| 21:47.58 | CowBook | :D |
| 21:48.04 | Daegalus | never! |
| 21:48.13 | CowBook | i love my wife and all, but she doesn't pvp well! |
| 21:48.20 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:48.27 | CowBook | and i KNEW this before we got married |
| 21:48.32 | CowBook | damn, i blew it |
| 21:48.33 | CowBook | heh |
| 21:48.37 | Daegalus | also i doubt you would be up for learning sign language. |
| 21:48.45 | CowBook | hmmn |
| 21:48.50 | CowBook | too much work |
| 21:48.55 | Daegalus | my gf is mute, so she cant talk |
| 21:49.20 | CowBook | well my wife just hits me when i do something wrong |
| 21:49.25 | CowBook | so there's not THAT much to learn |
| 21:49.36 | CowBook | just to duck, i guess |
| 21:50.21 | Daegalus | LOL |
| 21:50.30 | Daegalus | i know what you mean |
| 21:51.29 | Daegalus | sad thing is, even though im like twice her size and just big in general, i think she can kick my ass if she wanted to >_> |
| 21:51.45 | CowBook | maybe because you want her to |
| 21:51.49 | CowBook | ;) |
| 21:51.55 | Daegalus | umm no |
| 21:52.07 | CowBook | suuure |
| 21:52.14 | Daegalus | im just old school, i would never hurt a girl. so i just have to sit there and take it |
| 21:52.19 | CowBook | or maybe i'm just projecting |
| 21:53.01 | Daegalus | haha |
| 21:54.19 | Aii | if i ever hit anyone id expect them to hit back o.o |
| 21:54.25 | Aii | i just dont hit people much >.> |
| 21:54.35 | Aii | slaps don't count >.> |
| 21:54.38 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:54.41 | pewpewarrows | hehe |
| 21:54.42 | CowBook | well, there's not much call for it, unless you're a boxer or an asshole |
| 21:54.43 | Daegalus | Im a hopeless romantic |
| 21:55.08 | Daegalus | im too romantic for my own good, and im too much of an old school romantic, so ya. |
| 21:55.45 | Nyborek | lol |
| 21:55.53 | Nyborek | what a discussion |
| 21:55.54 | Nyborek | ;) |
| 21:56.00 | Daegalus | oh ya |
| 21:56.07 | Nyborek | I like this chatroom |
| 21:56.08 | Nyborek | ;) |
| 21:56.13 | Daegalus | LOL |
| 21:56.35 | Aii | s/chatroom/multiplayer notepad/ |
| 21:56.40 | Aii | see `Zypher |
| 21:56.40 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:56.43 | Aii | there's your MMO |
| 21:56.52 | Nyborek | u never would expect the peeps in here would talk about life and women ;) |
| 21:56.54 | Daegalus | i remember that bash.org post |
| 21:56.54 | lordneon | clearly need to go back to old school MUD's |
| 21:56.57 | Aii | er, Nyborek |
| 21:57.02 | Aii | it was you who was asking :P |
| 21:57.06 | nicoli_s | heya lordneon, haven't seen you around in a bit |
| 21:57.07 | smcn | i strike you with a +1 comma of destruction |
| 21:57.20 | Nyborek | Aii: ? me what did I ask? |
| 21:57.25 | Daegalus | Ive been on IRC for 6 years. i talk about anything you ask me. |
| 21:57.30 | lordneon | ive been afk for a bit :p |
| 21:57.39 | lordneon | even went on a small holiday XD |
| 21:57.43 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 21:57.52 | nicoli_s | how's the site comin along? |
| 21:58.37 | Nyborek | sure, I also talked about god and teh world, but just because of the channel discription ;) |
| 21:58.42 | lordneon | well after looking at wardb.com.. it slowed me down a bit |
| 21:58.54 | lordneon | who ever did your design for that is a god lol |
| 21:59.09 | Nyborek | some1 can confirm the "new" 1,4sec GCD ? |
| 21:59.17 | Daegalus | its not new |
| 21:59.21 | Daegalus | its always been 1.4 |
| 21:59.24 | Nyborek | for EU it is |
| 21:59.26 | Nyborek | ;) |
| 21:59.30 | Daegalus | same for US |
| 21:59.41 | Daegalus | oh nvm |
| 21:59.44 | Daegalus | misread that xD |
| 21:59.49 | Nyborek | I rember to see the 2s GCD |
| 21:59.51 | Daegalus | ya, its always been 1.4 |
| 22:00.04 | Daegalus | Nyb: thats because the buttson cant display decimels |
| 22:00.07 | Daegalus | so it roudned up |
| 22:00.15 | Daegalus | it was always 1.4, evne if it said 2 |
| 22:00.24 | Nyborek | are u sure? |
| 22:00.33 | Daegalus | yup, the devs said it themselves |
| 22:00.51 | nicoli_s | wasa combination of my boss and our designer |
| 22:00.56 | nicoli_s | that did the design |
| 22:01.08 | Nyborek | Ah k, just read it -.- |
| 22:01.10 | lordneon | yeh... its VERY nice i havent seen such a good design in a long time |
| 22:01.23 | Daegalus | and just because the channel says "Programming nerds R us" doesnt mean we cant talk about RL |
| 22:01.40 | Nyborek | ;-) |
| 22:03.58 | lordneon | btw nicely obfuscated addon code |
| 22:11.20 | Aii | Nyborek: you asked for an mmo to tide you over to WAWR |
| 22:11.22 | Aii | *WAR |
| 22:11.31 | Aii | hence, multiplayer notepad can be your MMO |
| 22:13.07 | nicoli_s | it's compiled lordneon, there's some lua tool you can use to do it |
| 22:16.44 | nicoli_s | sweet, my formula guesser works |
| 22:19.10 | Daegalus | 3RR^2-20RR-2 ? |
| 22:19.13 | Daegalus | lol |
| 22:20.06 | Aii | LAMO |
| 22:20.08 | Aii | *LMAO |
| 22:20.20 | Aii | in response to the "Remove chicken please !" thread |
| 22:20.25 | Aii | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1225149&postcount=91 <-- dev response |
| 22:21.12 | Freddy09 | LOL |
| 22:21.12 | Freddy09 | no |
| 22:21.14 | Freddy09 | imba answer |
| 22:22.56 | Aii | I'm so tempted now to make a new thread... "Nerf developers saying 'no'" |
| 22:23.18 | Aii | OP: "Seriously, these devs are far too intelligent. We need devs more willing to cave into the cravings of the angry mob." |
| 22:25.59 | Aii | aw |
| 22:26.21 | Aii | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64636 got closed before I could reply with "What part of 'no' don't you understand?" |
| 22:28.52 | Daegalus | What I find the funniest about the 2nd one |
| 22:28.57 | Daegalus | is he thinks Mbj is just some worker |
| 22:29.02 | Daegalus | or uninformed dev |
| 22:29.07 | Daegalus | or not even working on the game :P |
| 22:30.52 | Aii | lol |
| 22:30.53 | Daegalus | i sent him a freindly PM |
| 22:30.55 | Aii | in fact |
| 22:31.00 | Aii | the OP of that 2nd one |
| 22:31.08 | Aii | called Mbj "she" :P |
| 22:31.41 | Aii | last I checked, Mark was not even close to a feminine name |
| 22:32.46 | Daegalus | LOL god that was the biggest fail ive seen so far |
| 22:32.48 | Takeshii | I dunno... See: Man has child. |
| 22:33.35 | Takeshii | Never know whats under the hood these days *roll eyes*... |
| 22:38.43 | Takeshii | I knew that was either going to be funny, or awkward...anyways im off to go eat at Chili's |
| 22:39.49 | `Zypher | Takeshii: rofl |
| 22:41.10 | `Zypher | Aii: wha is getting more stupider. |
| 22:42.20 | pewpewarrows | yes |
| 22:42.22 | pewpewarrows | more stupider |
| 22:42.39 | Aii | btw |
| 22:42.45 | Aii | I should add a clairification to my earlier statement |
| 22:42.57 | Aii | when I was talking about creating a "think of the girlfriends" thread |
| 22:43.06 | Aii | I did not mean that girls only like pve :P |
| 22:43.19 | Aii | (considering im a very good example of that definitely not being the case >.>) |
| 22:43.30 | Daegalus | or my gf. shes all for the pvp |
| 22:44.12 | `Zypher | Aii: wow I can't believe you responded to this idiot who thinks that mouse turning should have a fixed speed. |
| 22:44.22 | `Zypher | learn to bind your shit or fail, thats how it works! |
| 22:44.34 | `Zypher | - Toon Turn Rate: No ability to adjust speed of key-turn. No cap on mouse-turn rate forces players to learn mouse-turn to compete. Ideally, the max turn rate using either approach would be the same; however, a slightly slower key-turn rate as in other games might be acceptable in return for freeing up the mouse hand. |
| 22:44.36 | pewpewarrows | don't tell me another thread of that topic started |
| 22:44.41 | Aii | he doesnt think it should have a fixed speed; he just wants the ability to change keyturn speed |
| 22:44.48 | pewpewarrows | I was arguing with them like 8 months ago |
| 22:45.03 | Aii | or maybe i misread it |
| 22:45.10 | `Zypher | thats what I got from it |
| 22:45.12 | Aii | but either way, i was just answering from a UI standpoint |
| 22:45.16 | `Zypher | :-| |
| 22:45.17 | `Zypher | ya |
| 22:45.21 | pewpewarrows | I know the one I was partaking in months ago, they wanted to cap the mouse turning speed |
| 22:45.21 | Aii | i dont really want to turn it into an argument |
| 22:45.26 | pewpewarrows | to compensate for keyboard turners |
| 22:45.29 | Aii | that can stay in Gameplay Discussion |
| 22:45.30 | `Zypher | I don't understand whats so hard about turning and moving with your mouse? |
| 22:46.02 | `Zypher | you just push both buttons at once or hit autorun |
| 22:46.06 | `Zypher | and push buttons real hard |
| 22:46.08 | `Zypher | thats all! |
| 22:47.05 | pewpewarrows | or you just bind mortal strike, hamstring, and charge to every single key on your keyboard |
| 22:47.09 | pewpewarrows | roll your face on it |
| 22:47.09 | pewpewarrows | and win |
| 22:47.18 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:47.20 | `Zypher | yarly |
| 22:48.35 | pewpewarrows | bah so I updated my firefox beta 3 release candidate 5 or w/e |
| 22:48.37 | pewpewarrows | on linux |
| 22:48.44 | pewpewarrows | to the official firefox 3 |
| 22:48.45 | `Zypher | and kaboomz? |
| 22:48.58 | pewpewarrows | and it overwrote all my 3b5 bookmarks with my old ff2 ones |
| 22:49.07 | pewpewarrows | so fail |
| 22:50.40 | Aii | fail at not having upgraded already |
| 22:51.05 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:51.26 | `Zypher | get down girl |
| 22:51.29 | `Zypher | go ahead get down |
| 22:51.32 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:51.35 | `Zypher | im so bored |
| 22:51.52 | lordneon | do some designing ;) |
| 22:52.08 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:52.15 | `Zypher | I kinda wanna play TF2 |
| 22:52.17 | `Zypher | anyone down? |
| 22:52.19 | Freddy09 | just find a show you like and watch every single episode of it |
| 22:52.20 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 22:52.31 | `Zypher | only animefreaks do that |
| 22:52.32 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:52.40 | lordneon | `Zypher i will if you play on an europe server |
| 22:52.41 | Freddy09 | i do it and none of my shows are anime |
| 22:52.41 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:53.01 | `Zypher | lordneon: my ping would be terrible so nothnky :( |
| 22:53.49 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: so the shoutcast channel im in is supposed to be underground rap |
| 22:53.52 | `Zypher | and the majority of it is |
| 22:53.59 | `Zypher | but I just got Kanye West - Goldigger |
| 22:54.01 | `Zypher | :| |
| 22:54.04 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 22:54.25 | pewpewarrows | and I agree with Freddy09, just go watch 4 seasons of House or something |
| 22:54.36 | `Zypher | House isn't that entertaining |
| 22:54.43 | pewpewarrows | blasphemy |
| 22:54.46 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 22:54.57 | `Zypher | I might be willing to watch X-Files |
| 22:54.58 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:55.00 | pewpewarrows | Arrested Development or the Office then |
| 22:55.04 | pewpewarrows | or Curb |
| 22:55.25 | pewpewarrows | or It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia |
| 22:55.36 | nicoli_s | i need to watch arrested dev and it's always sunny ive heard good things |
| 22:55.50 | `Zypher | :| |
| 22:55.58 | pewpewarrows | two of my favorite shows ever |
| 22:56.17 | `Zypher | X-Files & Monk |
| 22:56.22 | `Zypher | thats about all I care to watch |
| 22:56.28 | nicoli_s | i've heard david cross is on arrested dev so i am ashamed i havent seen it yet |
| 22:56.37 | pewpewarrows | ok so I found a bookmarkbackups directory |
| 22:56.41 | pewpewarrows | it's all json files |
| 22:56.50 | nicoli_s | david cross does this one rant about how the town i live in is the most backwards redneck place he's ever been |
| 22:58.08 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:58.09 | Freddy09 | so |
| 22:58.13 | `Zypher | <Font name="font_arial12" face="Arial" height="12" texsize="256" antialias="false" /> |
| 22:58.14 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:58.30 | Freddy09 | i've seene very episode of monk, psych, numb3rs, heroes, and most of the sopranoes |
| 22:58.31 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 22:58.33 | `Zypher | I guess I can add new fonts to zChat lol |
| 22:58.44 | Freddy09 | and first 3 seasons of house |
| 22:58.45 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 22:58.59 | nicoli_s | ugh |
| 22:59.00 | Freddy09 | i get bored too much |
| 22:59.04 | nicoli_s | you mentioned some horrible shows :P |
| 22:59.08 | Freddy09 | no i didn't |
| 22:59.10 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 22:59.12 | nicoli_s | heroes and house are teh suck :P |
| 22:59.22 | Freddy09 | house is great, and heroes is good too |
| 22:59.28 | `Zypher | Tuesday 08/26/08 @ Dublin  9:15 PM - 10:30 PM  Shared Ice |
| 22:59.31 | nicoli_s | but i only like really out there shit usually |
| 22:59.33 | `Zypher | homo |
| 22:59.36 | `Zypher | practice tonite :| |
| 22:59.43 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 22:59.47 | Freddy09 | that's a copy paste? |
| 22:59.47 | nicoli_s | i love movies that are so crazy it drives most peopel away |
| 22:59.50 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:59.54 | Freddy09 | nice |
| 23:00.52 | *** join/#waruidev SkyFlash__ (n=SkyFlash@tmo-116-31.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 23:02.51 | pewpewarrows | god dammit, why are the backup files in json |
| 23:02.58 | pewpewarrows | they just won't import back into FF |
| 23:06.23 | pewpewarrows | nvm fixed it |
| 23:08.20 | Freddy09 | k |
| 23:17.13 | Aii | one a side note, WAR has officially gone gold: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6196795.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2 |
| 23:18.35 | `Zypher | Aii: slow! |
| 23:19.12 | Aii | ~lart `Zypher |
| 23:19.12 | purl | tries to shut `Zypher up |
| 23:20.22 | Aii | nicoli_s: is there a reason the guild info stuff *doesn't* default to private? |
| 23:20.24 | pewpewarrows | I like all the threads about "but if the game went gold, how can they FIX things?!?!1one?!" |
| 23:20.45 | Aii | pewpewarrows: I think it's time for another Mbj one-word answer. "Patcher." |
| 23:21.08 | `Zypher | or we could just have a stupid questioni filter |
| 23:21.25 | `Zypher | and if someone tries to post a stupid question it filters the text, and bans them for 30mins |
| 23:23.47 | nicoli_s | i dunno aii, wasn't me who did that |
| 23:24.16 | Aii | seems like one of the common sense "this shouldnt be laid bare for the public unless we're told to" kind of things |
| 23:32.04 | `Zypher | Aii: what are you talking about? |
| 23:32.33 | Aii | `Zypher: wardb.com's guild info page |
| 23:32.48 | Aii | lists basically all of the guild info, including stuff that normally only guild members could see |
| 23:33.42 | `Zypher | oh? |
| 23:34.32 | `Zypher | I see |
| 23:34.34 | `Zypher | website |
| 23:34.35 | `Zypher | email |
| 23:34.37 | `Zypher | level |
| 23:34.39 | `Zypher | and renown |
| 23:34.46 | Aii | and the guild log |
| 23:34.50 | `Zypher | oh the log |
| 23:34.54 | `Zypher | that should probably not be shown |
| 23:34.55 | `Zypher | lol |
| 23:36.41 | Aii | heading home |
| 23:59.37 | `Zypher | my head is going to asplode |
| 23:59.42 | `Zypher | with the amount of people being stupid! |
