| 00:01.13 | Freddy | =( |
| 00:01.59 | Freddy | yey |
| 00:02.04 | Freddy | so i bought me 60 of the same types of seeds |
| 00:02.14 | Freddy | and it's doin it all by itself |
| 00:02.22 | Freddy | should i post the addon up? |
| 00:02.52 | Aiiane | why not |
| 00:02.57 | Freddy | lol i dunno |
| 00:03.05 | Freddy | just bored and tryin to talk |
| 00:03.05 | Freddy | :) |
| 00:06.34 | Aiiane | lol :) |
| 00:07.43 | Freddy | so servers come down tomorrow |
| 00:07.44 | Aiiane | one of these days, they'll get around to actually implementing the 'show helm' checkbox |
| 00:07.45 | Aiiane | ... |
| 00:07.50 | Freddy | lol |
| 00:07.57 | Freddy | i'd prefer the show cloak |
| 00:07.59 | Freddy | :( |
| 00:08.10 | Freddy | it looks terrible on borcs |
| 00:08.39 | Freddy | woo addon works |
| 00:08.42 | Freddy | uploading |
| 00:09.41 | Aiiane | i still think mythic is silly for not implementing a resizable button widget |
| 00:09.50 | Aiiane | and instead making all their buttons fixed size o.o |
| 00:10.13 | Freddy | wut |
| 00:10.17 | Freddy | wow |
| 00:10.34 | Freddy | iz ok |
| 00:10.38 | Freddy | we'll just use custom interfaces |
| 00:10.38 | Freddy | ! |
| 00:10.56 | Aiiane | yeah, but still... |
| 00:11.01 | Freddy | lol |
| 00:11.05 | Freddy | i guess they want to make us think! |
| 00:11.23 | Freddy | but yeah |
| 00:11.24 | Freddy | it makes no sense |
| 00:11.31 | Freddy | even blizzard could think of doing that (i think) |
| 00:18.14 | Freddy | lol |
| 00:29.35 | Daegalus | Runepriest > Zealot cause its more offensive, yet it has some really efficient heals. so overall the RP out does the Zealot in most cases. |
| 00:29.57 | Aiiane | depends on how you spec the RP |
| 00:30.00 | Freddy | aww |
| 00:30.54 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 00:30.55 | Freddy | lol@ seeing my own dead body on the ground |
| 00:30.56 | Freddy | =) |
| 00:31.03 | Aiiane | i wonder if they'll be leaving the elder servers up after today |
| 00:31.21 | Addrar | hoping :) |
| 00:31.24 | Freddy | :( i hope they leave sometin up |
| 00:31.36 | Freddy | w/ the bugs they still need someone testin git |
| 00:31.48 | Addrar | we were supposed to being testing the boss fight in altdorf again also I thought |
| 00:31.58 | Addrar | *be testing |
| 00:32.00 | Aiiane | possible |
| 00:32.20 | Freddy | lol AAx8 and caves don't mix well |
| 00:36.37 | Aiiane | just a suggestion Freddy |
| 00:36.40 | Aiiane | use .zip instead of .rar |
| 00:37.08 | Aiiane | things like the curse client won't be able to autoinstall rar's |
| 00:37.44 | Freddy | lol all right |
| 00:37.49 | Freddy | winrar just defaults me to rar :( |
| 00:37.52 | Freddy | make me click one more time!! |
| 00:37.59 | Aiiane | I use WinRAR as well :P |
| 00:38.01 | Aiiane | but |
| 00:38.04 | Aiiane | if you dont want to do that |
| 00:38.10 | Aiiane | you *could* use curseforge's repos :P |
| 00:38.10 | Freddy | lol no i'm fine with it |
| 00:38.12 | Freddy | i'm jk :) |
| 00:38.16 | Aiiane | then you dont even have to worry about zipping |
| 00:38.16 | Freddy | if i knew how to i would |
| 00:38.33 | Aiiane | have you ever used Subversion, Mercurial, or git before? |
| 00:38.41 | Freddy | nope! |
| 00:38.42 | Freddy | ;) |
| 00:38.56 | Aiiane | well, do you want to learn? |
| 00:39.22 | Freddy | lol sure |
| 00:39.35 | Aiiane | what OS are you running? |
| 00:39.39 | Freddy | xp 32 bit |
| 00:39.42 | Aiiane | k |
| 00:40.10 | Aiiane | personal suggestion then, I'd go with either subversion or mercurial for now then... git doesn't have all that stellar windows utilities yet |
| 00:40.43 | Aiiane | let's go ahead and walk you through subversion, since that's still what wowace uses, and probably the most popular atm |
| 00:40.54 | Freddy | k |
| 00:41.20 | Aiiane | http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads <-- go there, download, and install |
| 00:41.52 | Addrar | tortoise has pretty nice integration with windows too |
| 00:41.56 | Freddy | k 1:30 download :O |
| 00:42.11 | Aiiane | tell me when you have it all installed and whatnot |
| 00:44.14 | Freddy | ok aiiane |
| 00:45.08 | Aiiane | alright. now, go to your curseforge project |
| 00:45.16 | Freddy | k |
| 00:45.29 | Aiiane | at the homepage for the project, you should see a menu at the top labeled 'repository actions' |
| 00:45.36 | Freddy | yup |
| 00:45.42 | Aiiane | go to that and choose Edit Repository |
| 00:45.49 | Freddy | k |
| 00:45.54 | Aiiane | for Repository Type, choose Subversion |
| 00:46.04 | Freddy | k |
| 00:46.09 | Aiiane | for Package As, change it to the proper capitalization of your addon's folder name |
| 00:46.22 | Aiiane | (we can also override package as later, but might as well change it for now) |
| 00:46.27 | Freddy | so |
| 00:46.30 | Aiiane | for Package Type, you have some options |
| 00:46.32 | Freddy | the addon folder in my addons directory? |
| 00:46.35 | Aiiane | yes |
| 00:46.38 | Freddy | k |
| 00:46.38 | Aiiane | AutoHarvest |
| 00:46.40 | Aiiane | or the like |
| 00:46.48 | Aiiane | if you choose Alpha+Beta+Release for package type |
| 00:46.56 | Freddy | all right |
| 00:46.58 | Aiiane | every time you commit to the repository, it will build a zip file |
| 00:47.05 | Freddy | yey |
| 00:47.25 | Aiiane | if you choose Beta+Release, or Release only, it will only build a zip when you create a "tag" in the repo for a specific version |
| 00:47.25 | Freddy | is that it? |
| 00:47.32 | Freddy | k |
| 00:47.43 | Aiiane | hit save changes once you've picked what package type you want |
| 00:47.59 | Freddy | so |
| 00:48.10 | Freddy | yay |
| 00:48.14 | Freddy | i have an official repository |
| 00:48.15 | Freddy | lol |
| 00:48.27 | Aiiane | now you need to actually be able to put stuff in the repo |
| 00:48.28 | Aiiane | so |
| 00:48.47 | Aiiane | if you go to the page for the mainline repository |
| 00:48.54 | Aiiane | ( http://war.curseforge.com/projects/joinfast/repositories/mainline/ ) |
| 00:49.06 | Aiiane | it should give you a couple of urls |
| 00:49.17 | Freddy | woah |
| 00:49.19 | Freddy | did you do joinfast |
| 00:49.26 | Freddy | lol |
| 00:49.29 | Freddy | joinfast don't have one |
| 00:49.30 | Aiiane | oh, whoops, no, i just linked the wrong one |
| 00:49.33 | Freddy | i did ah |
| 00:49.35 | Freddy | got it |
| 00:49.40 | Freddy | already there |
| 00:49.54 | Freddy | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/aharv/repositories/mainline/ |
| 00:49.57 | Aiiane | mhm |
| 00:50.14 | Aiiane | now, since you probably dont want to bother with an SSH key atm |
| 00:50.14 | Freddy | pub or development? |
| 00:50.17 | Freddy | k |
| 00:50.19 | Freddy | no i don't |
| 00:50.21 | Aiiane | we'll just use the public one, with a basic password |
| 00:50.28 | Aiiane | before i forget |
| 00:50.33 | Aiiane | you need to set your svn password |
| 00:50.35 | Aiiane | to do that |
| 00:50.38 | Aiiane | go to My Profile on CF |
| 00:50.47 | Freddy | k |
| 00:50.50 | Aiiane | then on the right side under Profile Actions |
| 00:50.54 | Aiiane | go to Repository Authorization |
| 00:51.09 | Aiiane | click edit details there, and change your SVN password to whatever you want |
| 00:51.15 | Freddy | k |
| 00:51.15 | Aiiane | (make sure to type it twice) |
| 00:51.22 | Aiiane | alright |
| 00:51.25 | Aiiane | after you've done that |
| 00:51.27 | Aiiane | back to the repo |
| 00:52.03 | Freddy | and |
| 00:52.05 | Freddy | no public key? |
| 00:52.16 | Aiiane | we're not bothering with SSH keys |
| 00:52.17 | Freddy | Ssh Public Key: |
| 00:52.20 | Aiiane | so just leave that blank |
| 00:52.23 | Freddy | k |
| 00:52.44 | Aiiane | okay |
| 00:52.45 | Aiiane | now |
| 00:53.07 | Aiiane | find where on your local drive you want to keep the local copy of the files |
| 00:53.18 | Aiiane | if you want, this can be the actual folder in your interface\addons |
| 00:53.20 | Aiiane | or it can be somewhere else |
| 00:53.44 | Freddy | k |
| 00:53.48 | Aiiane | open up a file explorer and go to that folder |
| 00:54.00 | Aiiane | (are you using the folder in interface\addons, or are you using something else?) |
| 00:54.08 | Freddy | my documents/addons |
| 00:54.10 | Freddy | \ |
| 00:54.11 | Aiiane | k |
| 00:54.11 | Freddy | wutever |
| 00:54.14 | Aiiane | go there |
| 00:54.16 | Freddy | yup |
| 00:54.21 | Aiiane | and once you're inside that addons folder |
| 00:54.29 | Aiiane | right-click on empty space |
| 00:54.34 | Aiiane | there should be an option in the menu |
| 00:54.38 | Aiiane | 2 options, actually |
| 00:54.47 | Aiiane | SVN Checkout... and TortoiseSVN |
| 00:54.51 | Freddy | yup |
| 00:54.57 | Aiiane | choose SVN Checkout |
| 00:55.06 | Freddy | k |
| 00:55.08 | Aiiane | that'll open the Checkout window |
| 00:55.21 | Aiiane | in the "URL of repository" box, put the public svn url from curseforge |
| 00:55.51 | Freddy | got it |
| 00:55.55 | Aiiane | in the Checkout directory box, change the name of the last part of the path so that it's something that makes sense instead of just "mainline" |
| 00:56.11 | Aiiane | I usually use "AddonName-mainline" |
| 00:56.18 | Aiiane | but you can call it whatever you want |
| 00:56.30 | Freddy | k |
| 00:56.49 | Aiiane | the other options should all be at their defaults (fully recursive, omit externals is off, HEAD revision) |
| 00:56.55 | Aiiane | then click OK |
| 00:57.09 | Freddy | okay |
| 00:57.18 | Aiiane | it should have created an empty folder, yes? |
| 00:57.24 | Aiiane | since there's nothing in your repo yet |
| 00:57.28 | Freddy | yes |
| 00:57.33 | Aiiane | (it may have a .svn directory in it) |
| 00:57.35 | Freddy | yup |
| 00:57.37 | Freddy | hidden file |
| 00:57.38 | Freddy | eek |
| 00:57.44 | Aiiane | lol |
| 00:57.51 | Aiiane | that's the local copy of your repo, now |
| 00:57.58 | Aiiane | so now, we want to put the stuff in it |
| 00:58.14 | Aiiane | so, copy over the files from interface\addons\AutoHarvest, into the directory it just made |
| 00:58.23 | Freddy | the folder or just the files? |
| 00:58.27 | Aiiane | the files |
| 00:58.37 | Freddy | k |
| 00:58.42 | Aiiane | the packager will automatically put them all into a single folder for you when it packages |
| 00:59.03 | Aiiane | that's what the "Package As" setting was for - what the name of that folder is ;) |
| 00:59.06 | Freddy | all right, files are in mainline folder thing |
| 00:59.10 | Aiiane | ok |
| 00:59.12 | Aiiane | now |
| 00:59.19 | Aiiane | they probably dont have green checkmarks on them |
| 00:59.23 | Aiiane | right? |
| 00:59.24 | Freddy | nope |
| 00:59.34 | Aiiane | that's because they're not actually "acknowledged" by svn yet |
| 00:59.41 | Freddy | egad! |
| 00:59.42 | Aiiane | you can store things in the local folder that aren't part of the repo |
| 00:59.53 | Aiiane | to mark files as being included in the repo |
| 00:59.55 | Aiiane | select them |
| 00:59.58 | Aiiane | and right click |
| 01:00.21 | Aiiane | go to TortoiseSVN -> Add |
| 01:00.40 | Freddy | k |
| 01:00.43 | Aiiane | it'll pop up a confirmation box |
| 01:00.50 | Freddy | yup |
| 01:00.51 | Aiiane | make sure they're all checked, then add them |
| 01:00.58 | Freddy | i did it! |
| 01:01.01 | Aiiane | okay |
| 01:01.03 | Aiiane | now |
| 01:01.04 | Freddy | lol |
| 01:01.14 | Aiiane | they probably still dont have green checkmarks yet, right? |
| 01:01.18 | Freddy | um |
| 01:01.21 | Freddy | nope |
| 01:01.42 | Aiiane | that's because they differ from the remote repo copy, and haven't been commited yet |
| 01:01.49 | Freddy | okay |
| 01:01.51 | Aiiane | so now, you need to commit your changes back to the remote repo |
| 01:01.54 | Aiiane | to do that |
| 01:02.00 | Aiiane | right-click on your repo folder |
| 01:02.10 | Aiiane | and choose SVN Commit |
| 01:02.21 | Freddy | k |
| 01:02.30 | Aiiane | You'll be asked to fill in a commit message |
| 01:02.42 | Aiiane | the packager will automatically generate ChangeLog.txt's from your commit messages |
| 01:02.50 | Aiiane | so use it to describe what was changed in that commit, etc |
| 01:02.54 | Freddy | okay |
| 01:03.00 | Freddy | so |
| 01:03.04 | Freddy | first version |
| 01:03.04 | Freddy | ! |
| 01:03.08 | Freddy | Initial Commit |
| 01:03.20 | Aiiane | once you're happy with the message, and the files it's committing look right |
| 01:03.23 | Aiiane | hit ok |
| 01:03.30 | Aiiane | it'll ask you for your login and password |
| 01:03.43 | Aiiane | your login is your curseforge login, in all lowercase |
| 01:03.50 | Aiiane | and your password is the one you set earlier |
| 01:04.04 | Repo | aharv: 03freddy0909 * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit |
| 01:04.11 | Freddy | o jeeze |
| 01:04.17 | Freddy | it was an accident is wear |
| 01:04.22 | Aiiane | lol :P |
| 01:04.29 | Aiiane | the packager runs every 20 minutes |
| 01:04.36 | Aiiane | :00, :20, and :40 after the hour |
| 01:04.41 | Freddy | k |
| 01:04.44 | Freddy | wait 15 mins |
| 01:04.47 | Aiiane | so if you selected Alpha/Beta/Release |
| 01:04.53 | Aiiane | then it'll build a zip in another 15 mins or so |
| 01:04.59 | Freddy | okie |
| 01:05.21 | Freddy | pro |
| 01:05.25 | Aiiane | now, whenever you want to push new changes to the repo |
| 01:05.37 | Aiiane | just update the files in your local repo folder |
| 01:05.41 | Aiiane | then do an svn commit |
| 01:06.00 | Freddy | k |
| 01:06.00 | Aiiane | it's that simple |
| 01:06.02 | Aiiane | now |
| 01:06.13 | Aiiane | alpha versions, which is what the packager builds for regular svn commits |
| 01:06.16 | Aiiane | won't show up on Curse.com |
| 01:06.22 | Aiiane | they're only listed on Curse |
| 01:06.26 | Aiiane | er, on CurseForge |
| 01:06.37 | Aiiane | Beta/Release versions are what get sent to Curse.com |
| 01:06.50 | Freddy | k |
| 01:06.53 | Aiiane | (and thus, what get pushed out to people using the Curse Client) |
| 01:07.01 | Aiiane | to build a beta or release version |
| 01:07.06 | Aiiane | you have to create what's called a Tag |
| 01:07.11 | Aiiane | to do that |
| 01:07.17 | Daegalus | hmm, question, how do you make something a Beta. cause Alpha is a revision, but Tag is a release |
| 01:07.28 | Aiiane | Daegalus - tag can be either release or beta |
| 01:07.54 | Aiiane | if you name the tag anything with just numbers and periods, optionally starting with a v, and optionally ending with -release or -stable, then it's release |
| 01:07.54 | Daegalus | should be a way to differentiate :P |
| 01:08.01 | Aiiane | if you name it anything else, it's beta |
| 01:08.13 | Daegalus | example? |
| 01:08.20 | Freddy | something with a _ |
| 01:08.20 | Freddy | ! |
| 01:08.24 | Aiiane | so a tag named "1.0", "v1.0", "v1.0-release", "v1.0-stable" are all release builds |
| 01:08.31 | Aiiane | a tag named "mytest" is a beta build |
| 01:08.53 | Aiiane | a tag named "warbeta" is a beta build |
| 01:08.59 | Freddy | so if it has letters it's beta |
| 01:08.59 | Freddy | ? |
| 01:09.00 | Aiiane | a tag named "thisdoesntwork" is a beta build |
| 01:09.22 | Aiiane | if it doesnt fit that first set of styles i pointed out above |
| 01:09.24 | Aiiane | it's beta |
| 01:09.30 | Freddy | kk |
| 01:09.38 | Aiiane | so to make a tag FreeNode |
| 01:09.40 | Aiiane | er... |
| 01:09.41 | Aiiane | Freddy |
| 01:09.45 | Freddy | how dare you! |
| 01:09.48 | Aiiane | right-click your local repo folder |
| 01:09.52 | Freddy | k |
| 01:09.57 | Aiiane | go to TortoiseSVN |
| 01:10.01 | Aiiane | and choose Branch/Tag |
| 01:10.04 | Freddy | k |
| 01:10.14 | Aiiane | in the "To URL" box |
| 01:10.29 | Aiiane | edit the last part from "/trunk" to "/tags/mytagname" |
| 01:10.37 | Aiiane | where mytagname is what you want to call the tag |
| 01:10.47 | Freddy | k |
| 01:10.49 | Aiiane | you can use something like /tags/1.0 |
| 01:10.50 | Aiiane | for now |
| 01:10.58 | Aiiane | then click OK |
| 01:11.01 | Aiiane | and it'll add the tag |
| 01:11.08 | Aiiane | (you can add a log message if you want, or not) |
| 01:11.21 | Freddy | err |
| 01:11.31 | Freddy | i got notices! |
| 01:11.37 | Aiiane | like what? :) |
| 01:11.40 | Freddy | um |
| 01:11.52 | Freddy | Your working copy remains on the previous path. If you want your next changes to be cojmmitted |
| 01:11.58 | Aiiane | yep. that's normal |
| 01:12.02 | Freddy | etc |
| 01:12.02 | Freddy | k |
| 01:12.02 | Freddy | ! |
| 01:12.08 | Aiiane | that just means that you'll continue to edit the trunk version |
| 01:12.12 | Freddy | okie |
| 01:12.13 | Aiiane | instead of editing the tag |
| 01:12.17 | Freddy | oh |
| 01:12.36 | Aiiane | if you wanted to do what's called "branching" |
| 01:12.56 | Aiiane | where you start editing your own copy of the files on the repo and leave trunk alone |
| 01:12.56 | Freddy | trees! |
| 01:12.58 | Aiiane | you'd have checked the "move working copy to new path" checkbox |
| 01:13.03 | Aiiane | but you dont want that |
| 01:13.07 | Aiiane | because you're just tagging |
| 01:13.17 | Freddy | yes |
| 01:13.20 | Freddy | i'm just tagging |
| 01:13.28 | Aiiane | so now it's tagged |
| 01:13.31 | Freddy | yay |
| 01:13.40 | Freddy | anything else? |
| 01:13.46 | Aiiane | in about 5-7 minutes the packager should build an alpha version for trunk, and a release version for the tag |
| 01:13.50 | Aiiane | nope, that's it |
| 01:13.53 | Freddy | woo |
| 01:13.55 | Freddy | nice |
| 01:14.00 | Freddy | thanks, gonna try it with joinfast now |
| 01:14.21 | Aiiane | I personally typically choose Beta+Release for my package type |
| 01:14.49 | Aiiane | since I don't really want to clutter up curseforge's file list with each repo push i do |
| 01:14.51 | Freddy | lol well i didn't know how to tag when i first chose |
| 01:14.52 | Freddy | >.< |
| 01:14.58 | Aiiane | you can still go in and edit it |
| 01:15.02 | Freddy | i just did |
| 01:15.02 | Freddy | :P |
| 01:15.05 | Aiiane | :) |
| 01:15.12 | Aiiane | oh, also |
| 01:15.18 | Aiiane | the filename the packager generates |
| 01:15.20 | Aiiane | is something like |
| 01:15.27 | Aiiane | AddonName tagname.zip |
| 01:15.33 | Freddy | yeah, that's fine |
| 01:15.36 | Freddy | that's how I had it named anyways |
| 01:15.54 | Aiiane | and the actual name of the zip is AddonName-tagname.zip |
| 01:16.21 | Aiiane | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autoloot/files/2-auto-loot-1-1/ for example was the 1.1 tag |
| 01:16.30 | Freddy | kk |
| 01:18.17 | Freddy | all right |
| 01:18.17 | Freddy | thanks |
| 01:18.18 | Freddy | woo |
| 01:21.28 | Aiiane | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/aharv/files/2-1-0/ there's the newly generated zip |
| 01:21.48 | Freddy | woo |
| 01:22.00 | Freddy | sweet |
| 01:22.04 | Freddy | ty ty ty |
| 01:22.07 | Aiiane | if you download it and open it, you'll see the autogenerated changelog.txt |
| 01:22.36 | Freddy | i see |
| 01:22.42 | Freddy | joinfast worked too |
| 01:22.43 | Freddy | =) |
| 01:22.58 | Aiiane | some other time, if you do want to mess with ssh keys |
| 01:23.09 | Aiiane | you can try out the SSH+SVN options |
| 01:23.15 | Aiiane | or play around with Mercurial/Git |
| 01:23.26 | Aiiane | mercurial and git allow you to have local version control as well |
| 01:23.34 | Freddy | cool |
| 01:23.39 | Aiiane | so you can do commits/reverts without pushing to the central repo |
| 01:23.46 | Aiiane | and then only push to the central repo when you want to update there |
| 01:23.52 | Freddy | yay |
| 01:24.03 | Freddy | imo i'ma stick to the basics |
| 01:24.05 | Freddy | until a rainy day |
| 01:24.06 | Freddy | :D |
| 01:24.12 | Aiiane | :) |
| 01:24.17 | Aiiane | svn is fairly simple once you get started, yeah |
| 01:24.29 | Aiiane | although there are some things that are nice in hg/git |
| 01:24.34 | Aiiane | like tagging is really easy |
| 01:24.45 | Aiiane | right-click a version in the changelog, choose add tag, and type in the tagname :P |
| 01:24.51 | Freddy | nice |
| 01:25.01 | Aiiane | but certain other parts of it are a little more tricky |
| 01:25.12 | Aiiane | and tortoisehg isnt as well-developed so far as tortoisesvn is |
| 01:30.25 | *** join/#waruidev Daegalus_ (n=Daegalus@four.alameda.net) |
| 01:35.28 | Daegalus | brb |
| 01:47.38 | Ackis | where's a forum to discuss WAR UI stuff? |
| 01:48.13 | Addrar | http://forums.curseforge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 |
| 01:48.14 | Freddy | have you tried WHA UI section? |
| 01:48.35 | Ackis | ahh yes WHA (I couldn't remember the name) |
| 02:12.46 | *** join/#waruidev Daegalus (n=Daegalus@four.alameda.net) |
| 02:13.05 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: ping |
| 02:13.13 | pewpewarrows | Aiiane, pong |
| 02:13.31 | Aiiane | have you managed to figure out how to cast anything from an addon yet? or create the equivalent of a secure button at least? |
| 02:13.54 | pewpewarrows | No not yet, but I can't say that I've tried really |
| 02:14.00 | Aiiane | kk |
| 02:14.15 | Aiiane | I'm still looking through the code, trying to figure out a way to do one of the two |
| 02:14.22 | Aiiane | I think it's probably going to end up being the latter |
| 02:14.34 | Aiiane | possibly building off of the existing actionbuttons |
| 02:17.40 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: I think the poster here misread what you said you were working on |
| 02:17.42 | Aiiane | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1200727&postcount=83 |
| 02:17.54 | Aiiane | and thus now things you implied you could do ToT |
| 02:17.57 | Aiiane | for everyone |
| 02:18.00 | Aiiane | *thinks |
| 02:18.30 | pewpewarrows | sigh |
| 02:18.35 | pewpewarrows | people need to learn to read |
| 02:18.41 | pewpewarrows | but I'll clear things up |
| 02:19.51 | Aiiane | im not sure if its your statements he's (vaguely) referring to |
| 02:19.54 | Aiiane | since he's being so vague |
| 02:20.01 | Aiiane | but since he doesnt look to be a programmer himself |
| 02:20.14 | Aiiane | and he was responding to your comments about coding unitframes with "I love you." and whatnot |
| 02:20.17 | Aiiane | that's my guess |
| 02:27.20 | Ackis | ~lart Aiiane |
| 02:27.20 | purl | executes killall -HUP Aiiane |
| 02:27.24 | Ackis | lol |
| 02:27.32 | Ackis | I didn't know about that targetplayer trick |
| 02:27.49 | Aiiane | you didnt ask, until then |
| 02:28.30 | Ackis | I'd been talking about it for the past couple of days (prolly while you're afk) |
| 02:38.07 | Aiiane | Ackis: your chat code won't work because curChannel is local to ChatWindow |
| 02:38.16 | Aiiane | ditto whisperTarget |
| 02:38.47 | Aiiane | and normally, that wouldnt matter |
| 02:38.56 | Ackis | *sighs* do you have a suggestion on another way to go about doing it? |
| 02:39.01 | Aiiane | because the only things that get processed by the event are the two SystemData.UserInput vars |
| 02:39.04 | Aiiane | but |
| 02:39.10 | Aiiane | the actual server command for tells |
| 02:39.12 | Aiiane | isnt /tell |
| 02:39.14 | Aiiane | it's /t |
| 02:39.29 | Aiiane | the chat window auto-replaces any of the other tell commands with /t when it sends it to the server |
| 02:39.34 | Ackis | ahh |
| 02:39.51 | Aiiane | (if you dump ChatSettings.Channels, you'll see a "serverCmd" field for each of them) |
| 02:40.28 | Ackis | yah I saw those |
| 02:40.53 | Daegalus | omg, alt/ctrl/shift afect clicking |
| 02:41.02 | Daegalus | so if yo uever want to detarget something, you have to let go of them |
| 02:41.07 | Daegalus | thats dumb |
| 02:41.21 | Aiiane | Ackis: see http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:ChatWindow.OnKeyEnter |
| 02:41.40 | Aiiane | specifically the part where it references the serverCmd field |
| 02:46.26 | Ackis | yah that's what I read to come up with that original code |
| 02:46.28 | Daegalus | bah, they need to fix click targeting models |
| 02:51.25 | Ackis | ChatSettings.Channels[2].serverCmd |
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| 02:57.10 | Aiiane | dont hardcode that |
| 02:57.24 | Aiiane | SystemData.ChatLogFilters.TELL_SEND |
| 02:57.25 | Aiiane | use that |
| 02:57.55 | CowBook | omg the lag, it hurts |
| 02:57.58 | Ackis | heh either way still not getting anything to fire =/ |
| 02:58.10 | CowBook | my squig should be named "Warpy" |
| 02:58.19 | CowBook | or maybe "Untargetable" |
| 02:58.37 | CowBook | or better yet just "Useless" |
| 03:01.22 | Ackis | I've decided to do something, which IMO is bad... registering an event based on a slahs command |
| 03:06.14 | Aiiane | what's a slahs command |
| 03:07.10 | Ackis | slash :P |
| 03:08.38 | Ackis | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94621 Aiiane that should do it if what I've read off that api is correct... however it doesn't |
| 03:09.01 | Aiiane | no, you didnt read it correct |
| 03:09.12 | Aiiane | SystemData.ChatLogFilters.TELL_SEND is the id of the channel |
| 03:09.20 | Aiiane | you then have to go to ChatSettings.Channels and get the command |
| 03:09.24 | Aiiane | from serverCmd |
| 03:09.47 | Ackis | ahhh ok curchannel = TELL_SEND then |
| 03:09.52 | Aiiane | no |
| 03:09.55 | Aiiane | curChannel = SystemData.ChatLogFilters.TELL_SEND |
| 03:10.01 | Aiiane | basically |
| 03:10.05 | Aiiane | take the line you have commented out |
| 03:10.08 | Aiiane | and replace the 2 with SystemData.ChatLogFilters.TELL_SEND |
| 03:10.44 | Ackis | that's what I said (but shorter typing) let me try this |
| 03:17.42 | smcn | lua> false or nil |
| 03:17.43 | lua_bot | smcn: nil |
| 03:17.52 | smcn | lua> true or nil |
| 03:17.52 | lua_bot | smcn: true |
| 03:18.08 | Aiiane | "or" returns the first operand if it's not false or nil |
| 03:18.16 | Aiiane | and the second operand if the first is false or nil |
| 03:18.31 | Aiiane | lua> false or 3 |
| 03:18.31 | lua_bot | Aiiane: 3 |
| 03:19.17 | Aiiane | lua> a = function print("hello") end true and a() |
| 03:19.18 | lua_bot | Aiiane: luabot:1: '(' expected near 'print' |
| 03:19.24 | Aiiane | .... |
| 03:19.27 | smcn | fail! |
| 03:19.33 | Aiiane | oh |
| 03:19.37 | smcn | lua> a = function() print("hello") end true and a() |
| 03:19.37 | lua_bot | smcn: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'true' |
| 03:19.37 | Aiiane | lua> a = function() print("hello") end true and a() |
| 03:19.38 | lua_bot | Aiiane: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'true' |
| 03:19.42 | smcn | lol |
| 03:19.51 | Aiiane | lua> a = function() print("hello") end b = true and a() |
| 03:19.51 | lua_bot | Aiiane: hello |
| 03:19.56 | Aiiane | lua> a = function() print("hello") end b = false and a() |
| 03:19.56 | lua_bot | Aiiane: No output |
| 03:20.13 | Ackis | still no joy |
| 03:21.03 | Ackis | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94625 |
| 03:23.41 | Aiiane | i dunno then Ackis |
| 03:23.48 | Aiiane | you're sure the function's being fired, right? |
| 03:23.58 | Aiiane | try putting in a debug message to see if it even gets to the function? |
| 03:24.01 | Ackis | for testing purposes I manually fire it |
| 03:24.08 | Aiiane | um |
| 03:24.11 | Ackis | (and I've done the debugging messages too) |
| 03:24.12 | Aiiane | manually via what means? |
| 03:24.29 | Ackis | this: /script AchievementHelper.GetTellAchievement() |
| 03:24.30 | Aiiane | because if you're firing it via the chatwindow... which modifies the contents of those variables... |
| 03:24.57 | Ackis | but the variables get reset |
| 03:25.11 | Aiiane | do this |
| 03:25.11 | Ackis | I did prints on them to make sure |
| 03:25.29 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.56 | Aiiane | what does it list in ChatText |
| 03:27.58 | Ackis | Foo |
| 03:28.06 | Aiiane | ok |
| 03:28.13 | Aiiane | next question |
| 03:28.18 | Aiiane | can you do a /say |
| 03:29.34 | Ackis | did a /say test, then that dump and it's still Foo |
| 03:30.58 | Aiiane | ok. let me tell you something |
| 03:31.01 | Aiiane | I just did |
| 03:31.08 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.14 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.22 | Aiiane | then I opened a store npc's window |
| 03:31.26 | Aiiane | and it did the say |
| 03:32.23 | Aiiane | and when I change aaa() to send a tell |
| 03:32.32 | Aiiane | I get the "you can't send a tell to yourself" error message |
| 03:32.46 | Aiiane | so it has to be the fact that you're trying to trigger it from the chat window |
| 03:33.24 | Ackis | that sounds logical |
| 03:33.25 | Aiiane | my guess is that there's a lagtime between broadcasting the event |
| 03:33.29 | Aiiane | and it checking the variables |
| 03:33.37 | Aiiane | so the chatwindow overwrites it |
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| 03:33.47 | Ackis | I did some testing to make sure that wasn't it (printing out the commands before and after) and it didn't look like that |
| 03:34.14 | Aiiane | no but were you bringing them from the chat window |
| 03:34.17 | Aiiane | or from inside your functioin |
| 03:34.22 | Ackis | inside the function |
| 03:34.35 | Aiiane | well your function returns before the chatwindow's handler completes |
| 03:34.40 | Aiiane | so you didnt see the full picture |
| 03:35.11 | Ackis | fair enough, I'll try it from an event |
| 03:42.07 | Aiiane | so yeah |
| 03:42.10 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: ping |
| 03:46.03 | Ackis | hmmm I thought there was an achievement for sending 50 tells |
| 03:46.40 | Addrar | supposed to be |
| 03:46.50 | Aiiane | Another RealMythicComment(tm): -- Welcome to crazy town! |
| 03:47.11 | Aiiane | -- Ahhh, Crazy Town, I love you. |
| 03:47.26 | Addrar | heh :) |
| 03:51.37 | Aiiane | so yeah. Everything to do with player input to actionbars is dealt with in C. |
| 03:54.11 | Aiiane | now |
| 03:54.25 | Aiiane | that makes things tricky for click casting |
| 03:54.56 | Aiiane | because that means in order to do click casting |
| 03:55.06 | Aiiane | you need to actually have an actionbutton on your unitframe |
| 03:55.16 | Aiiane | possibly with it's alpha set to 0, so it's invisible |
| 03:55.19 | Aiiane | but it still has to be there |
| 03:55.30 | Aiiane | but then you also have to detect the mouseclick before the client can detect it |
| 03:55.35 | Aiiane | so you can swap targets for the cast |
| 03:55.42 | Aiiane | and then you have to swap back afterwards |
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| 04:01.33 | Aiiane | wb nicoli_s |
| 04:01.38 | Repo | achievementhelper: 03ackis * v0.15-2-g69c3e62 AchievementHelper.lua: (2 revisions total) |
| 04:01.38 | Repo | Tells work now, if you do a /ah tell name it will send 50 tells to the person specified in name. |
| 04:01.40 | Repo | Change how we click, make it easier to use. Only register the event once the slash command is used (just to help me see the bloody log), some tell tweaks which don't work yet. |
| 04:02.14 | Aiiane | hey, nicoli_s, have a bug report for you :) |
| 04:02.37 | nicoli_s | shoot |
| 04:02.39 | Aiiane | http://www.wardb.com/search.aspx?browse=1 <-- try typing something in the "Refine by name" box that won't return any results |
| 04:02.44 | Aiiane | such as just "v" |
| 04:03.47 | Repo | achievementhelper: 03ackis 07v0.20 * v0.20 / (2 files in 1 directory): (14 revisions total) (Message trimmed by 10 lines) |
| 04:03.47 | Repo | Tells work now, if you do a /ah tell name it will send 50 tells to the person specified in name. |
| 04:03.51 | Repo | Change how we click, make it easier to use. Only register the event once the slash command is used (just to help me see the bloody log), some tell tweaks which don't work yet. |
| 04:03.56 | Repo | Change thresholds again, servers don't seem all that stable for some reason. |
| 04:04.00 | Repo | Typo fix |
| 04:04.06 | Aiiane | ~fail Repo |
| 04:04.06 | purl | Repo, you Fail! |
| 04:04.52 | nicoli_s | ahh yeah, that should be fixed, i'll let michael know, just a simple sql query fix on the dev server |
| 04:05.40 | nicoli_s | i've been trying to track down some bugs in the renown builder for a while now, starting to piss me off :( |
| 04:06.21 | Daegalus | just rewrite it |
| 04:06.34 | Aiiane | nicoli_s: QA is the most annoying part of programming |
| 04:06.38 | Aiiane | actually, I lied |
| 04:06.39 | Daegalus | hahahahahahahah wow |
| 04:06.41 | Daegalus | i |
| 04:06.42 | Daegalus | just |
| 04:06.44 | Daegalus | figured out |
| 04:06.46 | Daegalus | how |
| 04:06.46 | Aiiane | refactoring someone else's code is the most annoying part |
| 04:06.47 | Daegalus | ot |
| 04:06.49 | Aiiane | QA is just a close second |
| 04:06.51 | Daegalus | log into the same accoutn twice |
| 04:07.10 | Daegalus | im currently running around on 2 different characters on my account..... |
| 04:07.12 | Daegalus | wow |
| 04:07.33 | Daegalus | same server too |
| 04:07.43 | Daegalus | gotta go send mythic an email |
| 04:08.23 | Ackis | btw Aiiane ty for all your help <3 |
| 04:08.29 | Aiiane | yw |
| 04:10.31 | nicoli_s | wee, one bug down |
| 04:12.27 | nicoli_s | anyone know if there's a legit way to get firefox 2? i need to test some shit out on it |
| 04:15.04 | nicoli_s | oh great, wow changed the model format in the latest build of wotlk, pissing me off :( |
| 04:24.45 | Daegalus | just go to the firefox website, im sure there is a way to get FF2 |
| 04:25.08 | Daegalus | browse their public ftp |
| 04:25.22 | Daegalus | they have like versions from Pheonix 0.2 |
| 04:25.24 | Aiiane | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html |
| 04:25.41 | Aiiane | has 2.0.0.16 |
| 04:26.55 | nicoli_s | thx |
| 04:27.49 | Aiiane | holy cow: http://herald.warhammeronline.com/videoblog/videoViewer.php?date=2008_07&vidFile=15_Our_game_is_magic.swf |
| 04:27.59 | Aiiane | i want that display |
| 04:28.42 | Addrar | meh :) |
| 04:28.52 | Daegalus | I alreayd have it :D and it works |
| 04:28.53 | Aiiane | but i dont want to pay for it |
| 04:28.53 | Aiiane | lol |
| 04:29.03 | Daegalus | 3, 22" screens |
| 04:29.17 | Aiiane | yeah, i make do with my 2 lcd's |
| 04:47.57 | Aiiane | hahaha: javascript:wopen1('videoViewer.php?date=2008_06&vidFile=04_favors.swf') |
| 04:48.00 | Aiiane | arg |
| 04:48.03 | Aiiane | http://herald.warhammeronline.com/videoblog/videoViewer.php?date=2008_06&vidFile=04_favors.swf |
| 04:48.06 | Aiiane | there's the right url |
| 04:50.22 | smcn | is there any way to tag blocks of code to be removed when you make a tag of the repo for the packager? would be nice to not have to manually remove test/debug code :P |
| 04:51.11 | Aiiane | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/pages/repository-keyword-substitutions/ |
| 04:51.59 | Aiiane | you can't actually remove the code though (and that's a bad idea, since it changes line numbers = harder to debug user comments) |
| 04:52.23 | smcn | ah true |
| 04:52.45 | smcn | but cool anyways, thanks :D |
| 05:49.40 | Daegalus | Who was the one that found the UI trick to teleport to T3 and T4 on the PW servers |
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| 07:36.10 | `Zypher | yo |
| 07:36.27 | Aiiane | ~whalepunt `Zypher |
| 07:36.27 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts `Zypher across the Atlantic |
| 07:36.50 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I think I'm going to start working on a TinyPad~esque addon for warhammer |
| 07:36.59 | Aiiane | tinypad? |
| 07:37.04 | `Zypher | ingame notepad |
| 07:37.08 | `Zypher | with lua higlighting |
| 07:37.09 | Aiiane | ah |
| 07:37.12 | `Zypher | and script processing |
| 07:37.22 | `Zypher | highlighting* |
| 07:37.34 | `Zypher | ~hug Aiiane |
| 07:37.34 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Aiiane |
| 07:38.03 | `Zypher | I feel like such a geek |
| 07:38.22 | `Zypher | I recorded Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, to watch after I got done playing hockey >.> |
| 07:38.36 | `Zypher | I've seen it like 12 times |
| 07:38.39 | `Zypher | this was 13 |
| 07:38.39 | `Zypher | lol |
| 07:42.12 | `Zypher | ~fail `Zypher |
| 07:42.13 | purl | `Zypher: FAIL! |
| 07:42.19 | Aiiane | ? |
| 07:42.36 | `Zypher | If no one is going to be mean to me for watching LotR 13 times |
| 07:42.39 | `Zypher | then I will lol |
| 07:45.32 | Aiiane | night~ |
| 07:45.37 | `Zypher | niters |
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| 08:39.54 | `Zypher | wtb Aiiane back :( |
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| 08:42.02 | `Zypher | hi quirim |
| 08:42.19 | quirim | hello |
| 08:43.34 | `Zypher | how are you? |
| 08:44.17 | quirim | I'm good |
| 08:44.17 | quirim | you? |
| 08:44.45 | `Zypher | a little tired |
| 08:44.50 | `Zypher | 1:44am here |
| 08:45.01 | quirim | :P |
| 08:45.14 | quirim | 10:45 here, but I've only had 7 hours of sleep >:| |
| 08:45.18 | quirim | AM that is. |
| 08:45.37 | `Zypher | I'm working on |
| 08:45.51 | `Zypher | a notepad like addon |
| 08:45.59 | `Zypher | that you can run test scripts from |
| 08:46.00 | `Zypher | :D |
| 08:46.05 | quirim | oh cool :D |
| 08:46.15 | `Zypher | at the moment |
| 08:46.22 | `Zypher | I need to figure out how to fire SEND_CHAT_TEXT |
| 08:46.25 | quirim | I can't wait to start writing some cool addons |
| 08:46.28 | `Zypher | with /script in front of it |
| 08:47.15 | quirim | ah |
| 08:47.51 | `Zypher | heh |
| 08:48.04 | `Zypher | like I can have it print the text from the editbox |
| 08:48.17 | `Zypher | but need to put /script in front of it for it to even matter |
| 08:48.18 | `Zypher | lol |
| 08:48.31 | quirim | lol |
| 08:49.13 | quirim | have to go, talk later I guess |
| 08:49.34 | `Zypher | peace |
| 09:26.12 | netcurse | did they close the beta already |
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| 09:30.29 | netcurse | zypher is the US closed beta closed? |
| 09:33.29 | `Zypher | leme see |
| 09:34.35 | `Zypher | netcurse: someone continued to argue that the Witch Elf icon should be changed from its current boobage state to something a little less exotic. |
| 09:34.56 | `Zypher | netcurse: us servers are still up |
| 09:38.01 | `Zypher | lua> if 1 > 0 then return superduper end |
| 09:38.01 | lua_bot | `Zypher: nil |
| 09:38.15 | `Zypher | lua> 10 * 10 |
| 09:38.15 | lua_bot | `Zypher: 100 |
| 09:38.18 | `Zypher | :D |
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| 09:55.14 | lordneon | lo nicoli_s are you about? |
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| 11:10.25 | Chryso | hi all |
| 11:11.22 | netcurse | hey |
| 11:12.37 | Chryso | back from leipzig :) |
| 11:12.39 | Chryso | need to sleep lol |
| 11:18.38 | netcurse | ah you should have told me that you were going |
| 11:18.48 | netcurse | i was there tuesday- sat |
| 11:24.41 | Chryso | arf :) |
| 11:32.24 | Chryso | you saw what wad said on wartools forum ? |
| 11:32.35 | Chryso | all the addons are sent as bugs to Mythic |
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| 12:14.35 | Lliane | hi |
| 12:14.49 | Lliane | omg, back from gc :o |
| 12:19.55 | Chryso | you too :) ? |
| 12:20.00 | Lliane | yes |
| 12:20.05 | Chryso | darn, should have planned a dinner or lunch ^^ |
| 12:20.17 | Lliane | was with esl all week end recording wow arenas |
| 12:20.25 | Lliane | i'd loved the fnatic/nihilum drama |
| 12:20.26 | Chryso | esl? |
| 12:20.37 | Lliane | electronic sports league |
| 12:21.38 | Lliane | http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4246/nihilumdisconectedtm6.jpg |
| 12:22.22 | Chryso | hehe |
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| 12:23.01 | HansM | morning! |
| 12:23.08 | Chryso | ning |
| 12:26.46 | Lliane | hi |
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| 13:19.09 | netcurse | someone knows when the US server will be taken offline |
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| 14:04.23 | `Zypher | Aiiane: ! |
| 14:05.22 | `Zypher | @ ping |
| 14:05.22 | Repo | pong |
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| 14:06.46 | `Zypher | ckknight: do you know how to send a chat message? |
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| 14:07.11 | ckknight | in WAR? |
| 14:07.13 | `Zypher | yes |
| 14:07.24 | ckknight | um, does the wiki not have any info? |
| 14:07.30 | `Zypher | nope |
| 14:07.35 | `Zypher | only ChatWindow.Print |
| 14:08.11 | `Zypher | and I need to SendChatMessage("/script "..text") |
| 14:08.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 14:08.27 | `Zypher | its a tinypad like addon ;) |
| 14:08.27 | ckknight | I honestly don't know |
| 14:08.31 | ckknight | I think pewpewarrows might have an idea |
| 14:08.39 | ckknight | he was doing something with chat previously |
| 14:08.49 | `Zypher | yar, I'll ask when hes around |
| 14:08.52 | `Zypher | which he might be |
| 14:08.56 | pewpewarrows | herro |
| 14:08.57 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: ping |
| 14:09.00 | `Zypher | oh hai |
| 14:09.15 | Lliane | hai |
| 14:09.27 | `Zypher | does anyone know how to do what I want?? |
| 14:09.32 | Lliane | no sry |
| 14:09.36 | Chryso | Zypher what you wanna do exatcly ? |
| 14:09.37 | Lliane | i haven't reed the api yet ^^ |
| 14:09.50 | pewpewarrows | Yeah Chryso should know the best out of us |
| 14:10.05 | `Zypher | Chryso: !!!! |
| 14:10.09 | `Zypher | hey buddy! |
| 14:10.12 | `Zypher | um |
| 14:10.39 | `Zypher | I have an EditBox that I want to be able to run as /script when I click a submit button |
| 14:10.51 | ckknight | `Zypher: http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:ChatWindow.OnKeyEnter |
| 14:11.00 | ckknight | see how it sends messages |
| 14:11.36 | `Zypher | ohh |
| 14:11.39 | `Zypher | are servers still up? |
| 14:12.17 | Chryso | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.29 | Chryso | iut just puts the stuff in a var and then broadcast the event |
| 14:13.14 | *** join/#waruidev tronned (n=tronned@65.210.20.233) |
| 14:15.40 | `Zypher | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94658 |
| 14:16.15 | `Zypher | or does it specifically have to be SystemData.UserInout.ChatText |
| 14:16.30 | Chryso | u need to assign SystemData.UserInput.ChatText with text Zypher |
| 14:16.37 | `Zypher | ok |
| 14:17.37 | `Zypher | local SystemData.UserInput.ChatText = text |
| 14:17.37 | `Zypher | if( SystemData.UserInput.ChatText ~= L"" ) then |
| 14:17.37 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.37 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.50 | `Zypher | :? |
| 14:18.16 | `Zypher | ckknight: you wouldn't happen to have an old version of OmniPad laying around would you? |
| 14:18.28 | ckknight | sorry, `Zypher |
| 14:18.29 | ckknight | never used anything like that |
| 14:18.39 | `Zypher | poo |
| 14:18.44 | ckknight | btw, what you should do once you figure this out is to make a wiki page on "how to send chat messages" |
| 14:18.52 | `Zypher | :D |
| 14:18.58 | `Zypher | lol well I think servers are down? |
| 14:19.39 | `Zypher | but meh It was my understanding Omnipad had syntax highlighting |
| 14:19.46 | `Zypher | which I thought would be cool |
| 14:20.32 | Chryso | Zypher, yes that should do it |
| 14:20.54 | Chryso | ckknight, or just make an addon that everybody can use :) |
| 14:20.59 | Chryso | pardon, a module :) |
| 14:21.17 | Chryso | like a utility module with lots of such small functions ^^ |
| 14:21.37 | ckknight | I still think there should be a wiki page explaining the basest case |
| 14:21.42 | ckknight | and then perhaps a library after-the-fact |
| 14:22.24 | Belatuca1ros | For all you DAoCers out there... 48 vs 48 = 6 groups vs 6 groups. Its 8 full groups in WAR... 8 full groups.... each side. |
| 14:22.26 | Chryso | sure :) |
| 14:22.27 | Belatuca1ros | I know most of you would consider 3 or 4 groups in NF a Zerg... this is more. |
| 14:22.33 | `Zypher | local SystemData.UserInput.ChatText = text |
| 14:22.33 | `Zypher | if( SystemData.UserInput.ChatText ~= L"" ) then |
| 14:22.33 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.33 | `Zypher | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.34 | Belatuca1ros | bahaha |
| 14:22.36 | Belatuca1ros | right click |
| 14:22.38 | Belatuca1ros | fucking irssi. |
| 14:22.39 | `Zypher | is there anything wrong with that line? |
| 14:22.55 | Chryso | which one lol :) |
| 14:23.01 | Chryso | yes there is |
| 14:23.04 | `Zypher | its telling me that theres a period somewhere in 50 which is local SystemData.UserInput.ChatText = text |
| 14:23.05 | Chryso | don't use local |
| 14:23.09 | `Zypher | ohh k |
| 14:23.14 | Chryso | SystemData.UserInput.ChatText is a global var |
| 14:23.23 | `Zypher | yah |
| 14:23.27 | `Zypher | i Just woke up |
| 14:23.29 | `Zypher | forgive me |
| 14:23.33 | Chryso | np |
| 14:23.54 | nicoli_s | welcome back chryso |
| 14:24.02 | Chryso | tx :) |
| 14:24.14 | Chryso | missed netcurse at the GC :( did not know he was there |
| 14:24.29 | *** topic/#WARUIDev by ckknight -> http://waruidev.pastey.net/ | http://forums.curseforge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 | See http://thewarwiki.com/ for API info | http://www.wardb.com | Create WAR addons on http://war.curseforge.com/ |
| 14:24.50 | *** join/#waruidev AckisWork (i=8ee55b3b@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 14:25.00 | Chryso | netcurse, sometimes along the way, i need to talk to vjeux and you :) |
| 14:31.22 | *** join/#waruidev quirim (n=poetaeto@41.246.2.219) |
| 14:32.47 | `Zypher | Chryso: works thank you |
| 14:32.52 | Chryso | np |
| 14:36.28 | nicoli_s | hey pewpewarrows, are you pewpew on wha? |
| 14:38.13 | pewpewarrows | same name |
| 14:38.20 | pewpewarrows | pewpewarrows, |
| 14:38.36 | nicoli_s | k |
| 14:40.13 | Repo | mypad: 03adalyn * 5c2b11555e9b /: Initial Commit of MyPad |
| 14:41.10 | `Zypher | yay |
| 14:41.44 | `Zypher | to bad I commited at 7:40 |
| 14:41.46 | `Zypher | lol |
| 14:41.49 | `Zypher | pushed* |
| 14:43.14 | ckknight | lol |
| 14:43.56 | `Zypher | its so basic right now |
| 14:44.07 | `Zypher | I want to add saving, and multiple pages :D |
| 14:45.41 | `Zypher | oh and I guess copy paste support would be nice |
| 14:45.41 | `Zypher | rofl |
| 14:47.55 | `Zypher | bah |
| 14:47.59 | `Zypher | ok byebye servers |
| 14:48.03 | `Zypher | time to go back to sleep |
| 14:51.20 | `Zypher | ckknight: do you think mythic would get mad at us if we had a http://wowcompares.com/ for warhammer? |
| 14:52.12 | ckknight | possibly, but I carry the personal philosophy of "Fuck Mythic", since they probably aren't looking out for _our_ interests, but merely their own |
| 14:52.34 | ckknight | so frankly, I think it could be a good idea |
| 14:52.38 | Chryso | lol ckknight, i carry that philosophy since december 2007 ^^ :) |
| 14:53.49 | HansM | lol |
| 14:54.40 | *** join/#waruidev netcurse_ (n=chatzill@ATuileries-153-1-38-172.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:57.56 | Aiiane | `Zypher - if you had looked at WHA's UI Discussion forum, I answered Ackis' question about how to send tells, its basically the same code :P |
| 14:58.23 | Aiiane | but http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:ChatWindow.OnKeyEnter is where Mythic does it |
| 14:58.35 | Aiiane | oh, and ckknight |
| 14:58.37 | tronned | How exactly are they only looking out for their interests? |
| 14:58.51 | ckknight | hrm, Aiiane? |
| 14:58.55 | `Zypher | Aiiane: your slow |
| 14:58.59 | `Zypher | slow Aiiane is slow. |
| 14:59.06 | `Zypher | ~whalepunt Aiiane |
| 14:59.07 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts Aiiane across the Solar System |
| 14:59.10 | Aiiane | can we get a @warapi bot command? that just provides a link to http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API: followed by the argument |
| 14:59.22 | ckknight | sure |
| 14:59.27 | ckknight | make a ticket, Aiiane |
| 14:59.32 | Aiiane | ~lart ckknight |
| 14:59.32 | purl | gives ckknight an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending ckknight to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 14:59.42 | ckknight | what? I'm working on other stuff right now |
| 14:59.51 | Aiiane | <3 |
| 15:00.05 | Aiiane | and `Zypher, sleepingaii was sleeping |
| 15:00.16 | Aiiane | and now, workaii needs to get to work |
| 15:00.19 | `Zypher | I slept from 3 - 7 |
| 15:00.19 | Aiiane | so back in a bit |
| 15:00.29 | `Zypher | and then worked on my addon |
| 15:00.34 | `Zypher | before servers went byebye |
| 15:00.43 | Aiiane | warpstone still up :P |
| 15:01.01 | `Zypher | stfu |
| 15:01.13 | `Zypher | ~whalepunch Aiiane |
| 15:01.20 | `Zypher | that doesn't work :( |
| 15:01.21 | Aiiane | ~whaleparry `Zypher |
| 15:01.22 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry `Zypher's attacks. |
| 15:01.31 | `Zypher | haha |
| 15:01.39 | `Zypher | I loled. |
| 15:02.00 | `Zypher | how can I see all the ~commands? |
| 15:02.10 | `Zypher | ~help `Zypher |
| 15:03.48 | `Zypher | ~whalekick Aiiane |
| 15:03.53 | `Zypher | boo |
| 15:08.39 | netcurse_ | are the CB servers closed also? |
| 15:11.20 | Aii | netcurse_: warpstone is up |
| 15:11.34 | netcurse_ | how many servers are up? |
| 15:11.47 | Aii | um, I think just warpstone atm |
| 15:11.52 | netcurse_ | ok |
| 15:12.05 | netcurse_ | so the CE people are no longer in the beta? |
| 15:12.13 | netcurse_ | untill OB? |
| 15:12.15 | Aii | mhm |
| 15:12.40 | Aii | as far as I know that's correct |
| 15:12.50 | netcurse_ | kk |
| 15:13.00 | netcurse_ | so WHA will explode in a few mins =P |
| 15:14.12 | ckknight | o noes |
| 15:14.37 | `Zypher | lol |
| 15:14.43 | `Zypher | bandwidth gone byebye |
| 15:38.42 | Aii | hehe. already "omg servers are down for two weeks?!?!" posts on wha |
| 15:39.17 | Aii | and already replies of "yes, do you not understand the concept of 'weekend'" replies |
| 15:39.46 | `Zypher | clearly not |
| 15:41.05 | `Zypher | I hope they kind of uniform the ui images over these two weeks |
| 15:41.10 | `Zypher | it feels so mismatched |
| 15:41.32 | Aii | I just want the option to use the warband ui for everything |
| 15:41.34 | Aii | :P |
| 15:41.48 | `Zypher | heh |
| 15:41.50 | `Zypher | I turn it off |
| 15:41.53 | `Zypher | I don't like it |
| 15:42.13 | Aii | it uses the least screen real estate |
| 15:42.22 | Aii | and doesnt really provide any less useful information |
| 15:43.05 | `Zypher | but I don't have a use for the information |
| 15:44.34 | `Zypher | Aii: what work does you do that you can has putty open? |
| 15:47.26 | `Zypher | netcurse_: why does my.curse.com blow so hard? |
| 15:47.51 | netcurse_ | wait 1 month :) |
| 15:48.01 | Aii | `Zypher: I work in my college's IT department |
| 15:48.19 | Aii | (and atm, it's not putty, it's mac terminal :P) |
| 15:50.36 | `Zypher | fail. |
| 15:51.05 | `Zypher | netcurse_: if I'm waiting a month I expect my eyes to fall out of their sockets when its done. |
| 15:51.10 | `Zypher | and it to be far less orange. |
| 15:52.30 | `Zypher | Anyone play TF2? |
| 15:56.20 | nicoli_s | man i hate college, damn people straight out of high school pulling the fucking fire alarm |
| 15:57.17 | `Zypher[Sleep] | yah, well that happens in highschool too |
| 15:57.45 | nicoli_s | thats what i mean, i pay(or rather the govt pays) for me to go to school and i have to deal with crap like that |
| 16:03.30 | AckisWork | are there any elder testers here? |
| 16:04.16 | AckisWork | if so, under your accounts thing at the mythic account centre, does it say anything there about you being elder? |
| 16:05.44 | Aii | why do you ask? |
| 16:06.06 | AckisWork | want to know if I'll still have access or not |
| 16:06.22 | Aii | (but yes, if you're an Elder tester, under 'features' it lists "Elder Closed Beta Tester" in addition to "Closed Beta Tester") |
| 16:06.36 | Aii | also, if you're an elder, you have access to the beta forums |
| 16:06.45 | Aii | the latter is probably an easier way to know |
| 16:07.35 | AckisWork | well that's unfortunate |
| 16:10.36 | AckisWork | I'm just a closed beta tester so from what I've read I've lost access |
| 16:10.51 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 16:12.28 | AckisWork | oh well I'll just keep bugging Aii with questions ;) |
| 16:14.53 | Aii | lol :x |
| 16:19.44 | AckisWork | btw not sure if I mentioned this last night but I got the tells working (which really sucks since that original code would've worked if I called it right) |
| 16:20.00 | AckisWork | there was no achievement for it however so I must've mis-read it |
| 16:21.03 | AckisWork | I think it was your (Aiiane) profile on wardb that I saw it in: Communication - Used the 'tell' command 50 times |
| 16:21.44 | Aii | and the original code wouldnt have worked, it was using /tell, not /t, wasn't it? |
| 16:22.37 | AckisWork | it was yes |
| 16:24.29 | Aii | hmm... ckknight, the packager is really spamming in the log when it processes externals |
| 16:25.00 | ckknight | yea, it's really the only way to make sure that it doesn't get stuck |
| 16:25.48 | Aii | would it be possible to have an option for a shorter version which suppresses those lines? |
| 16:25.58 | Aii | (so you could view either) |
| 16:27.09 | Aii | although i suppose its not really a big deal |
| 16:31.30 | ckknight | yea, there's other more important things to do |
| 16:37.17 | `Zypher[TeeEfffT | boo |
| 16:39.06 | Aii | ckknight: it actually just confused me at first, because I saw all the "Done with <insert ace3 lib name here>" messages, and wondered why it was repacking all of Ace3 |
| 16:39.18 | Aii | then scrolled down a bit and noticed they were just externals-processing threads :P |
| 16:39.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:39.27 | ckknight | it does 10 at a time |
| 16:39.36 | AckisWork | Aii, are you going to merge LibSlash into Ace3? |
| 16:39.57 | ckknight | why should she? |
| 16:39.57 | Aii | we'll see. |
| 16:40.31 | AckisWork | Ace3 has slash command handling, but then that's going with the idea that "everyone" will use it |
| 16:40.42 | Aii | I'm still not entirely sure where I'm going to be going with the whole Libs thing. |
| 16:40.50 | ckknight | but not everyone will use Ace3, AckisWork |
| 16:41.00 | AckisWork | aye |
| 16:45.36 | Aii | I feel dirty, I just helped someone change their default browser from firefox to IE |
| 16:50.22 | Aii | the "all communication is done through global vars" method that WAR uses for API is sort of annoying |
| 16:52.24 | Aii | leads to problems like the one you were having AckisWork |
| 16:53.30 | Aii | WHA keeps dropping my login session :| |
| 16:57.55 | netcurse_ | ah |
| 16:58.06 | netcurse_ | probably because of the servers overload |
| 17:06.06 | `Zypher | Aii: ace3 for war? |
| 17:11.08 | *** join/#waruidev Kreesis (n=chatzill@63-76-118-116.directcom.com) |
| 17:11.44 | Aii | `Zypher: Kaelten was planning to port as much of it as he could, I may be helping with that |
| 17:12.00 | `Zypher | oh nice, I'd love to test! |
| 17:12.04 | Aii | some of it will work as-is, other parts of it will have to be tweaked, some parts just wont work period |
| 17:12.19 | `Zypher | of course. its to be expected |
| 17:15.32 | netcurse_ | we featured some addons here http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63145 |
| 17:15.36 | netcurse_ | on the FP |
| 17:15.49 | netcurse_ | we'll try to feature other addons next time ; ) |
| 17:16.23 | Kaelten | Aii: I have problems with WHA dropping my sessions unless I tell it to remember me |
| 17:17.04 | Kaelten | `Zypher and ya I'm hoping me and Aii will have something pretty solid in time for launch, if she's will to help me :) |
| 17:17.32 | `Zypher | nice nice |
| 17:17.57 | `Zypher | Kaelten: use git kthnx |
| 17:18.06 | `Zypher | I don't want to have to use hg or svn :P |
| 17:18.08 | Kaelten | na hg is my poison of choice |
| 17:18.13 | `Zypher | :( |
| 17:18.14 | AckisWork | but hg git's it done |
| 17:18.30 | `Zypher | lol |
| 17:18.32 | Kaelten | Ackis: you just made me facepalm |
| 17:18.39 | `Zypher | thats like |
| 17:18.46 | AckisWork | <3 Kaelten |
| 17:18.56 | `Zypher | there are only 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't. |
| 17:19.31 | ckknight | s/those who don't/those who have friends/ |
| 17:19.36 | Kaelten | no Ackis managed to surpase that I'm afraid |
| 17:19.41 | AckisWork | Kaelten: I told my gf what you said: [11:19] Shaelynx: that's nothing new |
| 17:19.49 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:20.00 | Kaelten | but I prefer git over hg. |
| 17:20.05 | Kaelten | so no thanks zyp :) |
| 17:20.09 | AckisWork | have you heard about the new movie constipated? |
| 17:20.21 | AckisWork | it hasn't come out yet |
| 17:20.22 | AckisWork | tehehehe |
| 17:20.34 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 17:20.49 | Kaelten | ~lart AckisWork |
| 17:20.49 | purl | chops AckisWork in half with a free AOL CD |
| 17:21.08 | pewpewarrows | hmm, when did AOL stop sending those out |
| 17:21.23 | Aii | wait |
| 17:21.25 | Aii | Kaelten: |
| 17:21.31 | Aii | dont you mean you prefer hg over git? |
| 17:22.08 | AckisWork | Kaelten: just wait til I start using pun's at blizzcon |
| 17:22.16 | `Zypher | shush |
| 17:22.20 | `Zypher | Aii: don't correct him |
| 17:22.28 | Kaelten | er ya I prefer hg over git |
| 17:22.32 | `Zypher | damnit! |
| 17:22.34 | pewpewarrows | oh snap |
| 17:23.02 | `Zypher | time to install hg :| |
| 17:23.40 | Kaelten | `Zypher: I think you'll find it really is an elegant dvcs :) |
| 17:24.12 | Aii | `Zypher: or just download built zips :P |
| 17:24.19 | `Zypher | thats fail tho |
| 17:24.31 | `Zypher | I liked git thanks to ckknight |
| 17:24.35 | `Zypher | but I'll try hg |
| 17:24.39 | ckknight | I prefer git |
| 17:24.40 | AckisWork | ohh no word filter on WHA |
| 17:24.43 | ckknight | having used both |
| 17:24.53 | `Zypher | can you git hg |
| 17:24.53 | ckknight | it's all rainy outside |
| 17:24.56 | `Zypher | like git svn? |
| 17:25.09 | ckknight | not to my knowledge, there might be a way, though |
| 17:25.15 | Aii | ckknight: what major differences made you prefer one over the other? |
| 17:25.46 | quirim | is the character movement in WAR client side? |
| 17:26.08 | Kaelten | quirim: probably |
| 17:26.15 | Kaelten | its normally bad mojo to do it server side |
| 17:26.17 | Kaelten | even if its more secure |
| 17:26.19 | ckknight | Aii: I prefer git's ui, it makes less assumptions. it also has a larger community and is hacked on faster, as far as I can tell. It also runs faster. |
| 17:26.29 | AckisWork | git has a UI? |
| 17:26.37 | quirim | Kaelten: thank you :) |
| 17:26.41 | Aii | ckknight: *for a windows user |
| 17:26.52 | pewpewarrows | quirim, client-side, redundancy checks server-side |
| 17:26.57 | ckknight | for a windows user, git has issues, I know |
| 17:26.59 | ckknight | I don't use windows. |
| 17:27.01 | `Zypher | ckknight: I don't use the gui tho |
| 17:27.03 | pewpewarrows | like much of the user-player interaction in MMOs these days |
| 17:27.11 | quirim | cool |
| 17:27.27 | quirim | I'd hate it to be server side |
| 17:27.33 | Kaelten | the speed differences between git and hg are very minor |
| 17:27.45 | Kaelten | not like the speed differences when comparing to svn |
| 17:27.49 | pewpewarrows | if it was server-side, you'd press "W" and see your character move forward 1 second later |
| 17:27.51 | *** join/#waruidev ghostfish (i=theonewh@DECE.RES.CMU.EDU) |
| 17:27.59 | quirim | yea :P |
| 17:27.59 | Aii | not exactly pewpewarrows |
| 17:28.09 | quirim | I have quite high latency |
| 17:28.10 | pewpewarrows | I'm simplifying, I know |
| 17:28.13 | Aii | typically, server-side movement still allows the client to predictively move |
| 17:28.20 | `Zypher | ckknight: I found an old version of omnibus |
| 17:28.22 | Aii | but you get the effect referred to as "Rubberbanding" |
| 17:28.29 | Kaelten | well its more that your movement would be jerky and it'd reset to known good values so you'd snap back a lot |
| 17:28.29 | `Zypher | ckknight: so I should be able to get syntax highlighting |
| 17:28.30 | `Zypher | :D |
| 17:28.31 | Aii | when the server updates the client to their "true" position |
| 17:28.36 | pewpewarrows | right |
| 17:28.50 | pewpewarrows | I learned that from AoC |
| 17:28.52 | ckknight | `Zypher: um, check For All Indents And Purposes |
| 17:28.56 | quirim | heh, it would be unplayable really |
| 17:29.05 | `Zypher | ckknight: ya |
| 17:29.05 | Kaelten | ya, some mmo's have tried it |
| 17:29.08 | `Zypher | I found that too |
| 17:29.36 | Kaelten | but its... bad |
| 17:29.39 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 17:29.41 | Kaelten | it only really works if you have very good latency... say connecting over a 1gige lan with only 3 other people |
| 17:29.41 | Aii | It works for some. |
| 17:29.47 | Aii | Guild Wars has a good implementation. |
| 17:29.55 | quirim | well you have to take distance in to account |
| 17:30.12 | Kaelten | well I'd imagine any decent implementation would have to have some sort of forgiveness built in |
| 17:30.19 | pewpewarrows | when internet 2 becomes mainstream it'll be fine to do it like that |
| 17:30.48 | pewpewarrows | (btw I don't know the buzzword, I just call it internet 2) |
| 17:32.46 | `Zypher | intarweb 2? |
| 17:32.58 | pewpewarrows | oh, it is called internet2 |
| 17:33.00 | pewpewarrows | fancy that |
| 17:33.05 | `Zypher | UCAID? |
| 17:33.16 | pewpewarrows | yeah |
| 17:33.55 | pewpewarrows | my uni has it internally right now |
| 17:34.24 | pewpewarrows | when I play a game with someone else on-campus the lag is almost nonexistent |
| 17:35.01 | Aii | internet2 isnt something an institution has "internally" :P |
| 17:35.08 | Aii | you probably just mean gigabit ethernet |
| 17:35.49 | pewpewarrows | right |
| 17:36.07 | pewpewarrows | but the goal of internet2 is gigabit ethernet as the internet itself |
| 17:36.11 | Aii | no |
| 17:36.20 | Aii | the internet itself is already far beyond gigabit ethernet |
| 17:36.25 | Aii | internet is a protocol |
| 17:36.31 | Aii | ethernet is hardware |
| 17:36.44 | Aii | (IP = internet protcol) |
| 17:36.45 | pewpewarrows | yeah I know this |
| 17:37.07 | pewpewarrows | I always word things incorrectly |
| 17:37.42 | Aii | the backbone links between the more central routers for most internet traffic have numerous links of 10GB/s or more |
| 17:38.16 | pewpewarrows | I meant speed wise |
| 17:38.19 | Aii | heck, the link providing my college's internet access atm is 2x10GB |
| 17:38.33 | Aii | yes, but speedwise is a question of /where/ you're measuring that speed |
| 17:38.35 | `Zypher | OC-768 |
| 17:39.08 | `Zypher | Aii: you has CO-192 |
| 17:39.26 | `Zypher | AT&T's backbone is OC-768, or 39,000mb/s |
| 17:45.50 | Jeffrey | internet2 is 1.21 jigawatts |
| 17:47.17 | Aii | powered by a flux capacitor, too |
| 17:50.09 | ghostfish | my college's internet access is the 2nd fastest in the world behind the US government, point if you figure out who |
| 17:50.40 | Aii | ~pil |
| 17:50.40 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:53.34 | *** join/#waruidev SkyFlash (n=SkyFlash@tmo-116-31.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 17:53.50 | SkyFlash | hi |
| 17:53.59 | SkyFlash | how is stuff going? |
| 17:54.12 | AckisWork | not having beta access is going to suck =/ |
| 17:54.20 | SkyFlash | ours is gone |
| 17:54.30 | SkyFlash | servers are down til openbeta |
| 17:54.58 | AckisWork | aye |
| 17:55.10 | SkyFlash | did mythic ever say something about the LUA API? |
| 17:55.21 | Aii | define 'saying something'? |
| 17:55.26 | SkyFlash | i mean... its crap... did they say they gonna fix it for release? |
| 17:55.40 | SkyFlash | or.. like... are they going to recode the targetting code? |
| 17:56.09 | Aii | to do what |
| 17:56.19 | SkyFlash | i am wondering if this is what the game will release with... |
| 17:56.44 | Aii | what fault was it that you were having with the targeting code again? |
| 17:56.44 | SkyFlash | well, the current targetting is not really working... its all a hack |
| 17:57.02 | SkyFlash | the friendly and hostile target is mixed up |
| 17:57.07 | Aii | er |
| 17:57.08 | Aii | no? |
| 17:57.18 | SkyFlash | and you dont get information about the targets correctly |
| 17:57.23 | Aii | um |
| 17:57.26 | Aii | no? |
| 17:57.34 | SkyFlash | there is no ranging info, or even if the target is in sight |
| 17:57.47 | nicoli_s | there used to be |
| 17:57.50 | nicoli_s | they removed it |
| 17:58.05 | nicoli_s | there used to be a range variable that told how far apart u and the target are |
| 17:58.33 | SkyFlash | you can write an addon that will pick targets for you and you just will have to press a single button repeatedly to heal everyone |
| 17:58.48 | SkyFlash | are they going to allow that?? |
| 17:59.33 | ghostfish | doubtful, but I don't see how you can stop it without removing critical functionality |
| 17:59.46 | SkyFlash | well, my addon does it |
| 17:59.52 | ghostfish | I mean, party heath status and range is pretty key stuff you agree? |
| 18:00.01 | Aii | range, not really |
| 18:00.13 | SkyFlash | if mythic doesnt get their shit together, I will release my code for openbeta... see how they like it |
| 18:00.21 | SkyFlash | one-button-warhammer healing |
| 18:00.28 | ghostfish | how does it work? |
| 18:00.36 | SkyFlash | it rotates targets |
| 18:00.47 | ghostfish | does it spam a single spell or decide which one to use based on how much healing is needed? |
| 18:00.50 | nicoli_s | so you can cast spells via lua? |
| 18:00.54 | SkyFlash | no you cant |
| 18:01.00 | SkyFlash | the user does |
| 18:01.06 | SkyFlash | he presses the button |
| 18:01.06 | ghostfish | oh then that's nothing |
| 18:01.12 | Aii | my guess is that SkyFlash's addon just targets the next healing target when a spell is done casting. |
| 18:01.14 | SkyFlash | all the targetting is done automatically |
| 18:01.14 | ghostfish | it just pickes heal targets for you |
| 18:01.20 | ghostfish | that's like decursive |
| 18:01.24 | Aii | but that's far from ideal healing |
| 18:01.24 | SkyFlash | yup... |
| 18:01.26 | ghostfish | nothing special or illegal |
| 18:01.37 | SkyFlash | its as ideal as i program it |
| 18:01.39 | ghostfish | just saves you clicking around en mass for the right person |
| 18:01.46 | Aii | SkyFlash: No, it's not |
| 18:01.47 | SkyFlash | i can look for class to guess the health |
| 18:02.01 | Aii | your mod can't do predictive healing at all |
| 18:02.05 | SkyFlash | i can prioritize and find out who i can cast on... |
| 18:02.07 | Aii | which is far from ideal |
| 18:02.10 | ghostfish | ==Aii |
| 18:02.13 | SkyFlash | which is better than what the user can do |
| 18:02.32 | ghostfish | if it's not selecting spells and/or casting for you, it's no big advantage and will be allowed I'm sure |
| 18:02.43 | SkyFlash | the addon heals in a big zerg better than any player can :P |
| 18:02.50 | Aii | not really. |
| 18:02.58 | ghostfish | AoE heals > auto-target singles? |
| 18:03.10 | Aii | If you think what your addon does is "Better than any player can", you haven't seen good healers. |
| 18:03.21 | SkyFlash | no... cause you dont know if your AOE does target anyone |
| 18:03.48 | SkyFlash | in a big zerg, the addon can find out who it can cast on much quicker than the player |
| 18:04.09 | SkyFlash | it checks a group member every .25 seconds |
| 18:04.11 | SkyFlash | :P |
| 18:04.19 | Aii | I check every negative 0.5 seconds. |
| 18:04.30 | Aii | Because I can see who's going to be taking damage before they take it. |
| 18:04.37 | Aii | Beat that. |
| 18:04.40 | SkyFlash | maybe in PvE |
| 18:04.42 | Aii | No. |
| 18:04.44 | Aii | In RvR. |
| 18:04.48 | Aii | Keep warfare. |
| 18:04.53 | SkyFlash | ya right :) |
| 18:04.57 | Aii | Ya really. |
| 18:05.10 | SkyFlash | thats a nice story, however i dont buy it |
| 18:05.16 | Aii | You dont have to. |
| 18:05.26 | Aii | The world will not end if you don't believe me |
| 18:05.30 | Aii | :) |
| 18:05.42 | SkyFlash | anyway, they really need to change stuff in the API |
| 18:06.13 | Aii | Sure, but targeting is not one of the places I would say is really necessary |
| 18:06.49 | Belatuca1ros | If you have any issues I suggest you use the in-client feedback or bug report tools, ty =) |
| 18:07.14 | Aii | Belatuca1ros: I don't think SkyFlash can anymore. :P |
| 18:07.42 | Aii | at least, not till Open |
| 18:08.13 | Belatuca1ros | just sayin' |
| 18:08.35 | SkyFlash | yup... it was written in the beta forum over and over again |
| 18:08.41 | SkyFlash | however, its german so useless |
| 18:08.42 | Aii | on a side note, is there a reason Mythic didn't drop the addon-test-group's NDA yet? |
| 18:09.07 | SkyFlash | well, who was in that group? a bunch of monkey from NASA? |
| 18:09.18 | SkyFlash | or did they just ignore what they said? |
| 18:09.30 | nicoli_s | does anyone in here know anyone from that group? |
| 18:09.42 | SkyFlash | personally I thought its a myth |
| 18:09.46 | Aii | I do, indirectly |
| 18:10.02 | pewpewarrows | me too, I talk to someone on and off who's in the group |
| 18:10.11 | SkyFlash | they picked like a few people from DaoC, thats what i heard |
| 18:10.38 | nicoli_s | i just think it's funny that all the people who have been working on addons since way before it's ok and actuallyt have experience using it werent invited |
| 18:10.46 | SkyFlash | i really think they should have invited a few hundred addon programmers, released the API early and ask for suggestions |
| 18:10.58 | nicoli_s | agreed skyflash |
| 18:11.07 | pewpewarrows | yeah |
| 18:11.17 | pewpewarrows | I would have loved for them to be like |
| 18:11.22 | pewpewarrows | here's the API |
| 18:11.22 | SkyFlash | thats what my first question was for... |
| 18:11.38 | pewpewarrows | the best addon for each category (minimap, actionbars, etc) become the default ui |
| 18:11.43 | SkyFlash | does anyone know, if there is that ui beta team and they maybe have the new API ready for release? |
| 18:11.52 | SkyFlash | :P |
| 18:12.07 | pewpewarrows | just imagine the amazing interface they'd have today if they did that even just 3 months ago |
| 18:12.10 | SkyFlash | i mean, maybe the openbeta client already has "the perfect API" (TM) |
| 18:12.34 | Aii | somehow I doubt they're rewriting the whole API from now to release |
| 18:12.41 | pewpewarrows | well I know they pointed out a lot of issues to the mythic devs |
| 18:12.44 | Aii | considering that would also mean rewriting the game's entire UI |
| 18:12.50 | Aii | they may add/tweak things |
| 18:12.57 | pewpewarrows | what they do with that information is up to them |
| 18:12.57 | SkyFlash | ya, either they have been working on it since a few month ago, or we are all doomed :P |
| 18:13.00 | Aii | but I doubt they're ground-up rewriting it |
| 18:13.47 | SkyFlash | god i really hope they rewrite targetting, it gets on my nerves |
| 18:13.57 | Aii | No comment. |
| 18:14.09 | SkyFlash | and Aii... i am sure the other parts of the API will get on my nerves if I have to work with htem :P |
| 18:14.17 | SkyFlash | but right now its only targetting :P |
| 18:14.26 | ghostfish | you could always write a layer to stick in between the Mythic API and your code |
| 18:14.52 | SkyFlash | yes, but you dont have access to important stuff |
| 18:14.57 | SkyFlash | so its useless |
| 18:15.09 | Aii | what do you consider "important" |
| 18:15.14 | SkyFlash | range!!! |
| 18:15.24 | Aii | the WoW API doesn't provide range either. |
| 18:15.32 | SkyFlash | or actually, i dont care about range, but "can i cast that spell on him" |
| 18:15.36 | Aii | okay. |
| 18:15.37 | Aii | see |
| 18:15.41 | Aii | that's a different thing |
| 18:15.45 | SkyFlash | yes it is... |
| 18:15.45 | Aii | and completely unrelated to targeting |
| 18:16.05 | SkyFlash | ya well, if i get one, i dont need the other |
| 18:16.15 | SkyFlash | there are many ways to skin the cat |
| 18:16.52 | SkyFlash | i still hate how the friendly target gets stuck into the hostile target info |
| 18:17.04 | SkyFlash | but i could fix that with another addon |
| 18:18.17 | SkyFlash | lol, i think the best solution would be to hide everything mythic did and recreate everything from scratch :P |
| 18:22.05 | Aii | um |
| 18:22.06 | Aii | SkyFlash: |
| 18:22.11 | Aii | what are you talking about? |
| 18:22.19 | Aii | friendly target doesnt get stuck into hostile target info |
| 18:22.39 | Aii | it's always TargetInfo.m_Units.selffriendlytarget |
| 18:23.41 | SkyFlash | not that... like |
| 18:23.49 | SkyFlash | you have both hostile and friendly target |
| 18:23.57 | tronned | he means TargetInfo: table? |
| 18:24.05 | SkyFlash | the hostile target is left, the friendly right |
| 18:24.14 | SkyFlash | you deselect the hostile.. what happens? |
| 18:24.21 | SkyFlash | the friendly changes sides |
| 18:24.48 | SkyFlash | cause its primary and secondary target info, and if you deselect the hostile, the secondary moves to the primary |
| 18:25.34 | SkyFlash | thats really crap, so I would probably remove mythics complete targetting UI and rewrite it |
| 18:26.19 | pewpewarrows | so... just the fact the friendly's unit frame "moves" to the hostile when you don't have a hostile targeted? |
| 18:26.39 | Aii | okay, I don't like that either, but that's not an API issue |
| 18:26.43 | Aii | that's just their target frame |
| 18:26.47 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 18:26.56 | Aii | so just write your own unitframes, problem solved |
| 18:28.44 | tronned | So, you are suggesting having a player unit frame, a hostile (offensive) unit frame, and a friendly (defensive) unit frame at all times? |
| 18:30.19 | tronned | selecting any hostile would populate just the offensive unit frame, and selecting any friendly would populate just the defensive unit frame? |
| 18:30.43 | pewpewarrows | that's how I'm going to handle it |
| 18:30.57 | pewpewarrows | I think it's the best way |
| 18:31.06 | SkyFlash | yup it is |
| 18:31.38 | SkyFlash | hey how can one change the warwiki... "This function does not return any values." on that page: http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:TargetPlayer |
| 18:32.07 | SkyFlash | cause you need to attach for example other addons to those frames... like Whinyspelltimer |
| 18:32.13 | *** join/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-074-011-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:32.16 | SkyFlash | and it sucks if they move around |
| 18:33.17 | Aii | SkyFlash: If you're logged in, there's an Edit tab at the top of the page. |
| 18:33.35 | SkyFlash | yes.. but the sentence is not in there |
| 18:33.46 | SkyFlash | its encoded somehow in that API thingy :P |
| 18:33.50 | Aii | For what code to use, see http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/Help:How_to_document_the_API |
| 18:36.01 | SkyFlash | i hate templates :P |
| 18:37.17 | SkyFlash | hm who wrote that stuff? it's all incorrect |
| 18:38.27 | Aii | which stuff, and what is incorrect |
| 18:39.11 | SkyFlash | hm.. i cant test it without server, so I am gonna shut up til openbeta :P |
| 18:39.19 | Aii | also, Lua does not have BOOLs :P |
| 18:40.17 | SkyFlash | lol.. |
| 18:40.18 | SkyFlash | sorry :P |
| 18:40.27 | Aii | im editing the page anyways |
| 18:40.32 | SkyFlash | i just did... |
| 18:40.34 | Aii | you can look at how I changed it in a sec if you want |
| 18:40.40 | SkyFlash | *g* |
| 18:40.43 | Aii | and yes, I know you did |
| 18:41.00 | SkyFlash | no not that crappy excuse of an edit.. |
| 18:41.04 | SkyFlash | i new one :P |
| 18:41.06 | SkyFlash | a |
| 18:41.17 | Aii | I know |
| 18:41.49 | Aii | (also, if someone changes it while someone else is editing, the wiki automatically shows them an "edit conflict" screen when they go to submit the edit, sort of like a "merge required" in VCS ;) |
| 18:41.49 | SkyFlash | ah ya yes... |
| 18:41.52 | SkyFlash | good idea :P |
| 18:42.31 | SkyFlash | someone should check if it does work on npcs and mobs, i believe it does... |
| 18:42.39 | SkyFlash | or my code did work by a miracle, which is possible |
| 18:43.26 | Aii | what code was it? |
| 18:43.35 | Aii | you can't /target NPCs or mobs last I checked |
| 18:43.47 | Aii | and TargetPlayer literally just issues a /target command to the server |
| 18:44.08 | Aii | although that might have changed |
| 18:44.12 | Aii | I havent checked recently |
| 18:45.40 | Aii | just tried /script TargetPlayer(L"Ulthorin Dreadblade") on warpstone |
| 18:45.42 | Aii | doesnt work |
| 18:47.49 | `Zypher | Aii: why do people want warhammer to kill world of warcraft? |
| 18:48.13 | Aii | I don't |
| 18:48.31 | `Zypher | I don't understand why one has to kill the other |
| 18:48.38 | `Zypher | If I wanted to PvE I would play wow |
| 18:48.42 | `Zypher | and for pvp war |
| 18:49.05 | Aii | they dont want to pay two sub fees to play with their friends? idk |
| 18:49.16 | Nyborek | war and wow are 2 fully different games, I guess almost no girls will play Warhammer, guess girls dont like PvP at all. WoW is full of girls ;) |
| 18:49.29 | Aii | ... |
| 18:49.31 | `Zypher | lol |
| 18:49.32 | Aii | ~lart Nyborek |
| 18:49.32 | purl | strangles Nyborek with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 18:49.38 | `Zypher | Nyborek: Aii is a girl |
| 18:49.42 | AckisWork | Nyborek: girls don't play video games :P |
| 18:49.45 | Nyborek | true story, isnt it? |
| 18:50.01 | `Zypher | what about vampires |
| 18:50.05 | `Zypher | I play video games |
| 18:50.07 | `Zypher | and I'm one. |
| 18:50.27 | Nyborek | oO |
| 18:51.02 | `Zypher | Aii: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62197&page=2 |
| 18:51.24 | Nyborek | I like, war and I showed it to my gf and my sister for example, they play wow a lot and they say, war sucks! |
| 18:51.36 | SkyFlash | lol... i just persuaded a female friend to play Warhammer, she is really good in PvP :P |
| 18:51.42 | `Zypher | Aii: why do people care about an icon they see like once every 30mins? |
| 18:52.12 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: Female players who enjoy PvP are rare, you've got a keeper |
| 18:52.45 | SkyFlash | well there is a female CS clan, and I wouldn't want to meet them in any game :P |
| 18:52.55 | SkyFlash | not that i play CS, thank god :P |
| 18:53.01 | Nyborek | so, this is why WAR wont be ever successfully like wow |
| 18:53.11 | Nyborek | Never |
| 18:53.12 | Nyborek | ;) |
| 18:53.13 | Aii | I think `Zypher you linked me that already |
| 18:53.23 | `Zypher | Aii: it continued to get stupid |
| 18:53.38 | `Zypher | Nyborek: I don't want those players in my game |
| 18:53.42 | Nyborek | what about this link? |
| 18:53.48 | Aii | im going to get lunch |
| 18:53.51 | Aii | ill be back later |
| 18:53.54 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: I've played some of them, they aren't that good. |
| 18:53.58 | Nyborek | Zypher, what players? |
| 18:54.11 | `Zypher | Nyborek: people who aren't competitive |
| 18:54.41 | `Zypher | A lot of girls I knew from World of Warcraft tried to tell me that they didn't play the game as a competition |
| 18:54.45 | `Zypher | which is totally stupid |
| 18:54.56 | `Zypher | because the game is always a competition |
| 18:55.08 | `Zypher | and anyone who can't recognise that, doesn't deserve my time of day. |
| 18:55.12 | Nyborek | but PvP is fully different to PvE |
| 18:55.20 | `Zypher | its still a competition |
| 18:55.21 | Nyborek | ;) |
| 18:55.31 | `Zypher | you are still competing against other people |
| 18:55.40 | Nyborek | not at all |
| 18:55.51 | `Zypher | then you never raided world top 100 |
| 18:55.56 | Nyborek | I did |
| 18:56.01 | `Zypher | then you would know its a competition |
| 18:56.31 | `Zypher | the content will always end up being beaten, but beating it faster then that group over there |
| 18:56.35 | `Zypher | thats what the real competition is. |
| 18:56.50 | nicoli_s | i disagree, it's not always a competition |
| 18:56.54 | SkyFlash | ya.. if you take it on |
| 18:57.00 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: how |
| 18:57.00 | SkyFlash | if you dont, its not existant :P |
| 18:57.04 | nicoli_s | if you choose not to give a shit what other people are doing, then you aren;t competing |
| 18:57.15 | `Zypher | then why play a game with other players? |
| 18:57.22 | nicoli_s | to work together |
| 18:57.26 | nicoli_s | for community |
| 18:57.33 | Nyborek | I cant follow the discussion, Im sry. |
| 18:57.37 | SkyFlash | to meet them in RL, see that its a beautiful girl and marry and have kids... |
| 18:57.57 | nicoli_s | it could happen, i knew people that met through irc and are now married with kids |
| 18:57.58 | SkyFlash | thats the only reason i spend 10 hours a day in WOW... reaeeaalllyy... |
| 18:58.18 | `Zypher | ~kick `Zypher |
| 18:58.18 | purl | ACTION kicks `Zypher |
| 18:58.28 | `Zypher | silly people |
| 18:58.33 | `Zypher | everything is a competition. |
| 18:58.36 | `Zypher | always |
| 18:58.39 | `Zypher | and I deal in absolutes. |
| 18:58.52 | nicoli_s | lol your view of the world is so small |
| 18:58.58 | Nyborek | but what hast this to do with WAR and girls ? |
| 18:59.02 | SkyFlash | i can deal pleasure.. does that count? |
| 18:59.43 | `Zypher | Nyborek: I don't see how a game being sucessful would ride on weather or not girls played. |
| 18:59.52 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: it is relatively small. |
| 19:00.11 | nicoli_s | i'm just saying, mmos are games where it's not about one thing |
| 19:00.14 | nicoli_s | thats the beauty of them |
| 19:00.22 | nicoli_s | you can just gridn and grind and grind all day if you want |
| 19:00.32 | SkyFlash | hey btw... I think I can crash a WAR chatserver using addons and do a fine DOS.. any takers? :P |
| 19:00.48 | `Zypher | chatserver? |
| 19:00.53 | `Zypher | and why not ddos? |
| 19:00.57 | Nyborek | I call 10 mil. peoples MMO sucessfull ;) |
| 19:01.04 | SkyFlash | because i think DOS is good enough to kill it :P |
| 19:01.22 | `Zypher | Nyborek: I call sucessful, any game that has a dedicated playerbase. |
| 19:01.24 | Nyborek | I call an MMO sucessfull if it is played my yound and old |
| 19:01.42 | Nyborek | Same with Ps3 and Nintendo Wii,^^ |
| 19:01.47 | nicoli_s | a mmo is successful if i get paid to make a website about it:P |
| 19:01.53 | SkyFlash | lol... |
| 19:01.53 | `Zypher | nicoli_s: lol |
| 19:02.08 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: what do you mean chatserver? |
| 19:02.17 | SkyFlash | whatever runs the in game chat... |
| 19:02.25 | SkyFlash | i hope its separated from the gameservers :P |
| 19:02.27 | `Zypher | its on a seperate server? |
| 19:02.33 | SkyFlash | well i HOPE |
| 19:02.35 | SkyFlash | lol... |
| 19:02.39 | `Zypher | why would it be? |
| 19:02.49 | nicoli_s | to help load |
| 19:02.59 | `Zypher | hmm |
| 19:03.01 | SkyFlash | it usually is... |
| 19:03.07 | `Zypher | didn't know that |
| 19:03.39 | `Zypher | Nyborek: pretty much I hope this game never goes any more casual then it is now |
| 19:03.53 | `Zypher | Nyborek: its current state should make casual and hardcore players happy |
| 19:04.29 | SkyFlash | but if I see that i can pump messages into the chat and whisper players, i can probably kill the whole server using the LUA interface... that would be funny. From what someone said, there is no flooding prevention... |
| 19:05.16 | `Zypher | there is |
| 19:05.20 | `Zypher | atleast some |
| 19:05.22 | SkyFlash | err... someone here that wants to try a new... err... chat addon? :P |
| 19:05.26 | Nyborek | I like the "casual" word ;) |
| 19:05.42 | `Zypher | Nyborek: good for you. |
| 19:05.42 | Nyborek | Sky: uh servers are up? |
| 19:05.51 | SkyFlash | not in europe.. maybe in the us? |
| 19:06.00 | Nyborek | EU is down, for sure ;/ |
| 19:06.46 | `Zypher | I don't want warhammer online to be world of warcraft, does that work for you Nyborek? |
| 19:06.52 | nicoli_s | i think all non-elder servers are down |
| 19:07.16 | SkyFlash | lets get some elders banned lol |
| 19:07.16 | Nyborek | Zypher; yes now I understand, and it wont |
| 19:08.07 | Nyborek | Sky: banned? y? |
| 19:08.16 | `Zypher | Nyborek: I hope not, I wasn't looking for a wow-alternative when I decided to play war. |
| 19:08.28 | `Zypher | Nyborek: prolly because they crash their chat servers? |
| 19:08.45 | SkyFlash | gee i just need to know if it would work :( |
| 19:08.47 | Nyborek | ui with the adodn they talking? |
| 19:09.16 | SkyFlash | well just a little addon that will post 500000 lines of text into the chat and whisper everyone online at the same time... |
| 19:09.34 | Nyborek | omg ;) |
| 19:09.56 | nicoli_s | skyflash, i would imagine even if they don't have chat throttling in, they at least have it for packets |
| 19:10.15 | Nyborek | Did say say to close elder ce beta servers at 25th, too? |
| 19:10.16 | Nyborek | oO |
| 19:10.18 | nicoli_s | plus, i'm sure they have a chat message size limit |
| 19:10.19 | SkyFlash | probably... but the server may die before it kicks in |
| 19:11.22 | SkyFlash | ya the 500000 lines are not in one message of course |
| 19:11.39 | SkyFlash | just one message every 0.01 seconds, and then see how fast the lua works :P |
| 19:12.11 | AckisWork | I would get disconnected doing a 40k loop where you do two commands |
| 19:12.56 | SkyFlash | ya we can take bets what will die first.. |
| 19:13.11 | SkyFlash | the connection, the server, the script, the whole client... |
| 19:13.24 | nicoli_s | i really doubt the server will go down honestly |
| 19:13.38 | SkyFlash | well there still is the DDOS if it doesnt work :P |
| 19:13.43 | SkyFlash | *g* |
| 19:15.55 | SkyFlash | but you know.. many irc server have been killed before, and they knew it would happen and had been coded to counter it |
| 19:16.27 | SkyFlash | of course its different |
| 19:16.27 | nicoli_s | yeah but thats alot different |
| 19:16.31 | SkyFlash | :P |
| 19:16.35 | nicoli_s | war is a controlled environment |
| 19:16.43 | nicoli_s | the irc protocol is open, so people can use whatever client they want |
| 19:18.03 | SkyFlash | well i am not gonna release an addon that will kill the server and interrupt gameplay... but maybe a small Goldspammer addon could help Mythic to get on their way? |
| 19:20.23 | Nyborek | dp u think gold will play such a big role in warhammer? |
| 19:24.14 | *** join/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-074-011-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:30.53 | Aiiane | no, it won't, for the simple reason that most of the sought-after items are fixed-price (namely, renown gear) |
| 19:31.24 | Aiiane | sure, there might be items that become expensive if they're rare |
| 19:31.53 | Aiiane | but it won't be like WoW where there are enchants and whatnot that people can charge whatever they want for, and keep it that way because they're rare |
| 19:32.02 | Aiiane | but at the same time are required to be top-notch |
| 19:34.34 | *** join/#waruidev netcurse_ (n=chatzill@81-67-28-118.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:34.47 | nicoli_s | heya netcurse |
| 19:36.28 | *** join/#waruidev SkyFlash_ (n=SkyFlash@tmo-116-31.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 19:54.05 | `Zypher | Aiiane: couldn't Talisman Making corner the market for item enhancements? |
| 19:54.20 | Aiiane | `Zypher, you should tell the people in that thread to go watch this: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24720.html |
| 19:54.38 | Aiiane | `Zypher: talisman making is something pretty much anyone can do |
| 19:54.53 | Aiiane | and doesnt have things like "bop patterns" |
| 19:54.57 | nicoli_s | is talisman making even in yet? |
| 19:55.00 | Aiiane | that create the scarcity |
| 19:55.02 | Aiiane | nicoli_s: no |
| 19:55.31 | `Zypher | Aiiane but some items are rarer drops |
| 19:55.44 | `Zypher | and you will need them to make certain items |
| 19:55.49 | Aiiane | sure, but you're getting to the point where the difference is miniscule |
| 19:55.58 | Aiiane | as opposed to say, a mongoose enchant in WoW |
| 19:55.58 | `Zypher | I suppose |
| 19:56.14 | pewpewarrows | ahh |
| 19:56.15 | `Zypher | min/maxers don't care how big the gain is |
| 19:56.16 | pewpewarrows | unless |
| 19:56.30 | Aiiane | `Zypher: minmaxers aren't the "biggest part of the game" |
| 19:56.42 | pewpewarrows | some very rare things can only be made by rare bop ingredients |
| 19:56.48 | Aiiane | the difference is that in WoW minmaxing makes a significant difference |
| 19:56.55 | Aiiane | in WAR, it doesnt look like it's going to |
| 19:57.23 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:57.43 | `Zypher | Aiiane: they may not be the biggest part of the game, but they can have a huge influence on the economy |
| 19:58.00 | Aiiane | the point is |
| 19:58.05 | Aiiane | you won't have to /care/ about the economy |
| 19:58.13 | Aiiane | because you can be on a competitive level without dealing with it |
| 19:58.20 | `Zypher | yes |
| 19:58.23 | `Zypher | that is true |
| 19:58.41 | `Zypher | Aiiane: can I has your babies? |
| 19:59.09 | Aiiane | ...wha? |
| 19:59.28 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:59.49 | Aiiane | on a side note, <3 paul barnett |
| 20:00.49 | `Zypher | lol |
| 20:00.59 | `Zypher | I don't think anyone dislikes him |
| 20:01.20 | pewpewarrows | paul the guy in all the awesome podcasts? |
| 20:01.30 | Aiiane | yes |
| 20:01.36 | pewpewarrows | ok then ;) |
| 20:01.39 | Aiiane | the creative directory for WAR |
| 20:01.43 | pewpewarrows | ahh right |
| 20:01.44 | Aiiane | -y |
| 20:01.53 | `Zypher | direcotry! |
| 20:02.03 | pewpewarrows | ~fail `Zypher |
| 20:02.04 | purl | `Zypher, you Fail! |
| 20:02.45 | `Zypher | haha |
| 20:02.48 | `Zypher | I do. |
| 20:02.49 | `Zypher | its ok |
| 20:06.23 | Aiiane | oki, back to work with me |
| 20:09.23 | `Zypher | ok bai |
| 20:11.37 | Aii | back :) |
| 20:12.57 | pewpewarrows | wb |
| 20:13.35 | Chryso | night |
| 20:14.08 | Aii | oh hey, chryso is back |
| 20:23.37 | Daegalus | w00t, my addon made frontpage on WHA :P |
| 20:24.12 | pewpewarrows | :) |
| 20:31.00 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:37.32 | netcurse | HELLO! |
| 20:38.54 | ckknight | howdy |
| 20:40.49 | netcurse | lots of people here :) |
| 20:41.24 | *** join/#waruidev Freddy09 (n=Freddy@cpe-76-183-32-36.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 20:41.44 | Freddy09 | hi thar |
| 20:44.01 | Aii | hello |
| 20:44.51 | Freddy09 | how goes life? |
| 20:45.52 | Aii | good |
| 20:46.23 | Freddy09 | good, good! |
| 20:47.37 | `Zypher | Aii: so im really bored |
| 20:48.00 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 20:48.06 | Freddy09 | yo tambien |
| 20:48.06 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 20:48.19 | AckisWork | ~lart netcurse |
| 20:48.19 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks netcurse over |
| 20:48.40 | `Zypher | cl_interp 0.1 |
| 20:48.51 | `Zypher | cl_interp 0.01 |
| 20:48.52 | `Zypher | :D |
| 20:48.58 | Freddy09 | woahh |
| 20:49.11 | Freddy09 | wtf does lart mean? |
| 20:49.11 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 20:49.22 | `Zypher | ~lart Freddy09 |
| 20:49.22 | purl | blames Freddy09 for all the evil in the world |
| 20:49.29 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 20:49.34 | `Zypher | too slow AckisWork |
| 20:49.37 | AckisWork | wow fast `Zypher |
| 20:49.57 | Freddy09 | Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool |
| 20:49.59 | Freddy09 | woww |
| 20:50.10 | Freddy09 | wikipedia saved my life! |
| 20:52.26 | netcurse | Ackis you are playing with your own life here. |
| 20:52.45 | AckisWork | lol slow response is slow! :D |
| 20:55.14 | Freddy09 | eek |
| 20:55.14 | Freddy09 | why do ppl talk like that |
| 20:55.32 | Freddy09 | soy pedro! |
| 20:55.49 | Freddy09 | ¡! |
| 21:05.43 | *** join/#waruidev smcn (i=smcn@c-67-160-186-84.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:05.55 | Daegalus | sorry Freddy, Rules 1 & 2 prohibit me from telling you why people talk like that |
| 21:06.33 | `Zypher | Aii: I need some sweet sweet lovin :( |
| 21:07.02 | `Zypher | im bored |
| 21:07.04 | `Zypher | :| |
| 21:07.11 | Daegalus | someone is happy in the pants |
| 21:07.15 | `Zypher | naw |
| 21:07.36 | `Zypher | does anyone want to play TF2 :| |
| 21:07.46 | Aii | if i werent at work |
| 21:07.55 | `Zypher | do you even has? |
| 21:08.02 | Aii | tf2? |
| 21:08.03 | Aii | yes |
| 21:08.14 | `Zypher | why haven't you ever said so before :| |
| 21:08.16 | Aii | afk for a min, have to run to another office |
| 21:08.25 | Daegalus | i would zyph, but im busy with a project |
| 21:08.53 | Freddy09 | eek |
| 21:09.02 | Freddy09 | daegalus made a fight club allusion |
| 21:09.05 | Freddy09 | but let's not talk about that |
| 21:09.08 | Daegalus | and stop pretending you are a shaman |
| 21:09.10 | Daegalus | you cant eek! |
| 21:09.17 | Freddy09 | =( |
| 21:09.20 | Freddy09 | herders can eek too! |
| 21:09.29 | Daegalus | you arent a greenskin |
| 21:10.47 | Freddy09 | why you hate me daegalus? |
| 21:10.57 | Daegalus | i dont, im just giving you a hard time :P |
| 21:11.02 | `Zypher | I hate you because your name is Freddy09 |
| 21:11.12 | Freddy09 | freddy was taken!! |
| 21:11.14 | Freddy09 | i cried :( |
| 21:11.18 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:11.21 | `Zypher | so was Zypher |
| 21:11.23 | `Zypher | so I added ` |
| 21:11.26 | `Zypher | and were good to go |
| 21:11.33 | Freddy09 | were? |
| 21:11.37 | Freddy09 | how are you more than 1 person |
| 21:11.39 | `Zypher | we're |
| 21:11.52 | Freddy09 | so either way |
| 21:11.54 | Freddy09 | you're more than one person |
| 21:11.58 | `Zypher | I have split personality disorder. |
| 21:11.58 | Freddy09 | teach me your ways o great one |
| 21:12.02 | Freddy09 | ... |
| 21:12.12 | Freddy09 | it's called DID now |
| 21:12.15 | Freddy09 | get with the times |
| 21:12.20 | `Zypher | DID? |
| 21:12.27 | Freddy09 | dissociative identity dissorder |
| 21:12.35 | Freddy09 | took psych last year! |
| 21:12.36 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:12.45 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:12.48 | `Zypher | I see |
| 21:12.55 | `Zypher | its multiple personality disorder too |
| 21:12.56 | Freddy09 | don't ask me why they made it more complicated |
| 21:12.59 | `Zypher | well I fail. |
| 21:13.02 | Freddy09 | nah |
| 21:13.04 | Freddy09 | yours makes sense |
| 21:13.06 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:13.08 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:13.16 | `Zypher | I tend to include everyone in my statements |
| 21:13.23 | Freddy09 | cuz |
| 21:13.24 | `Zypher | and make statements in absolutes |
| 21:13.24 | Freddy09 | you're american |
| 21:13.26 | Freddy09 | and we are all one |
| 21:13.26 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:13.32 | `Zypher | no no |
| 21:13.36 | Freddy09 | lol no |
| 21:13.37 | Freddy09 | you're german |
| 21:13.38 | Freddy09 | KNEW IT |
| 21:13.43 | `Zypher | I'mm USAin |
| 21:13.49 | Daegalus | reason they changed it to DID |
| 21:13.50 | Freddy09 | ..... i don't understand |
| 21:13.53 | Daegalus | is because they had many cases |
| 21:14.03 | Freddy09 | lol daegalus is on top of things |
| 21:14.04 | Freddy09 | imba |
| 21:14.04 | Daegalus | where someone would change their identitiy permanently |
| 21:14.06 | `Zypher | American would refer to everyone in North America... |
| 21:14.12 | Freddy09 | ow |
| 21:14.21 | Freddy09 | meh zypher |
| 21:14.23 | Freddy09 | get over it |
| 21:14.27 | Daegalus | so its not really MPD if its only 1 personality |
| 21:14.35 | `Zypher | It actually bothers me that they call us americans |
| 21:14.35 | Freddy09 | candians can be american too |
| 21:14.37 | Freddy09 | if they want |
| 21:14.43 | `Zypher | candians? |
| 21:14.46 | Freddy09 | it makes sense |
| 21:14.48 | `Zypher | from candiland? |
| 21:14.49 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 21:14.52 | Freddy09 | omg |
| 21:14.54 | Freddy09 | did i really type that |
| 21:14.55 | Freddy09 | LOL |
| 21:14.58 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:15.02 | Freddy09 | ok |
| 21:15.09 | Daegalus | you guys are all noobs. im donutian.. Donutland > all |
| 21:15.09 | Freddy09 | daegalus thank you for teaching us the magics of psychology |
| 21:15.13 | `Zypher | my day just improved |
| 21:15.15 | Freddy09 | now if i ever changed my personality |
| 21:15.17 | Freddy09 | i'll know why i'm did |
| 21:15.17 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:15.29 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:15.38 | Daegalus | hey, thought i might aswell inform you since you guys asked |
| 21:15.44 | Freddy09 | we asked? |
| 21:15.45 | Freddy09 | or you told! |
| 21:15.46 | `Zypher | I'm tired of people being terrible in TF2 and running infront of me when I'm about to shoot. |
| 21:15.54 | Freddy09 | ... |
| 21:16.01 | Freddy09 | isn't that what is supposed to happen |
| 21:16.01 | `Zypher | they do it far too often |
| 21:16.05 | Freddy09 | wait |
| 21:16.07 | `Zypher | my own teamates |
| 21:16.09 | `Zypher | shush |
| 21:16.11 | Freddy09 | oh |
| 21:16.11 | Freddy09 | Lol |
| 21:16.14 | Freddy09 | isok |
| 21:16.16 | Freddy09 | just kill them all off |
| 21:16.18 | Freddy09 | then solo |
| 21:16.29 | `Zypher | well theres no FF on most of the servers I play in |
| 21:16.33 | `Zypher | so they just block the shot |
| 21:16.34 | `Zypher | :| |
| 21:16.38 | Freddy09 | so |
| 21:16.41 | Freddy09 | throw grenades |
| 21:16.41 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:16.48 | `Zypher | there aren't any in TF2 |
| 21:16.53 | Daegalus | roll a medic |
| 21:16.55 | Freddy09 | well how am i supposed to know that |
| 21:16.58 | Daegalus | never have that problem |
| 21:17.07 | `Zypher | Sniper has his Sniper Rifle, a Machine Gun, and a Machette |
| 21:17.26 | Daegalus | you mean a semi-automatic |
| 21:17.31 | Daegalus | Machine gun is Heavy |
| 21:17.33 | `Zypher | ya |
| 21:17.35 | `Zypher | well |
| 21:17.40 | Aii | be a demoman and throw grenades |
| 21:17.41 | `Zypher | they call it machine gun |
| 21:17.43 | Repo | whinyspelltimer: 03smcn * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): * final commit - i've decided not to play WAR on release |
| 21:17.43 | Repo | * bars sort by time remaining, for real this time |
| 21:17.50 | `Zypher | Demoman is like Pyro no skill involved |
| 21:17.59 | `Zypher | you don't have to aim |
| 21:18.00 | `Zypher | at all |
| 21:18.01 | Daegalus | woah. SMCN isnt playing WAR? why? |
| 21:18.11 | `Zypher | noooo |
| 21:18.13 | `Zypher | :| |
| 21:18.22 | `Zypher | is aion coming out? |
| 21:18.53 | Daegalus | damn that sucks. wonder why. |
| 21:18.53 | Repo | whinyspelltimer: 03smcn 04v1.1-final * r13 : v1.1-final |
| 21:19.10 | Aii | well, smcn is on irc, ask him :P |
| 21:19.13 | smcn | :P |
| 21:19.16 | `Zypher | smcn: why?! |
| 21:19.19 | Freddy09 | whyyy |
| 21:19.20 | Daegalus | smcn!!!!! WHY!?!?!??!!? |
| 21:19.24 | Freddy09 | WE NEED TO KNOW |
| 21:19.30 | Freddy09 | TELL US WHY SO WE CAN QUIT TOO |
| 21:19.31 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:19.31 | Freddy09 | wait |
| 21:19.37 | `Zypher | i dun wanna quit |
| 21:19.40 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:19.52 | `Zypher | the only other game I have to play in the near future is Huxley |
| 21:19.58 | `Zypher | and I dunno when thats even coming out |
| 21:20.01 | Freddy09 | Spore! |
| 21:20.02 | `Zypher | so no not quiting war |
| 21:20.08 | `Zypher | I don't like spore |
| 21:20.12 | `Zypher | I like killing people |
| 21:20.13 | Freddy09 | neither do i |
| 21:20.14 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:20.19 | Freddy09 | well i never looked into it |
| 21:20.23 | `Zypher | same lol |
| 21:20.37 | `Zypher | I know you can make a thingy |
| 21:20.39 | Freddy09 | i've just been playin some warcraft3 and watchin movies |
| 21:20.39 | smcn | multiple things, first off the game itself is just not to my standards of polish for being a few weeks from release, and that ties into the second reason, i just don't have the money to spend on a game i'm not going to enjoy 100% :P |
| 21:20.40 | `Zypher | and give it 100 boobs |
| 21:20.43 | Freddy09 | OMFG |
| 21:20.43 | `Zypher | but other then that |
| 21:20.50 | Freddy09 | sweet jesus spam chat log smcn |
| 21:20.59 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:21.01 | Freddy09 | so |
| 21:21.02 | Daegalus | smcn: you do know the internal client is 3 months ahead of what you see right now |
| 21:21.06 | Freddy09 | you'll be playing like 2 months after release? |
| 21:21.07 | Daegalus | in terms of polish |
| 21:21.19 | Daegalus | if you are basing your decision off a CLOSED BETA |
| 21:21.22 | Daegalus | then thats stupid |
| 21:21.23 | `Zypher | shush |
| 21:21.31 | `Zypher | the closed beta will still be the same game |
| 21:21.33 | Aii | no need to get worked up Daegalus |
| 21:21.36 | Freddy09 | daegalus: is OB gonna have that polished client or a similar one to PW? |
| 21:21.36 | Daegalus | at least wait till Open Bea to decide |
| 21:21.43 | smcn | maybe i will |
| 21:21.46 | Daegalus | more polished |
| 21:21.49 | Daegalus | but not 100% polished |
| 21:21.49 | Freddy09 | nice |
| 21:21.52 | Freddy09 | well yeah |
| 21:21.57 | Daegalus | 100% will be at release |
| 21:22.00 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 21:22.03 | Freddy09 | i'd give it 90% |
| 21:22.05 | Freddy09 | and i'd be happy |
| 21:22.06 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 21:22.07 | `Zypher | hopefully ob is the equiv of 4.0 |
| 21:22.13 | `Zypher | since were at 3.3 now |
| 21:22.24 | `Zypher | but that would be a pretty giant patchy patch |
| 21:22.32 | Freddy09 | i don't mind |
| 21:22.40 | `Zypher | I do, I have terrible down speed |
| 21:22.47 | Daegalus | Aii: i get worked up because people dont understand that all the fancy shit comes in the last week. and they have 1 month to do stuff. You know how muhc stuff can be done in 1 month in terms of polish and bug fixing. i workd for EA last summer on Rockband, it was a pile of buggy shit, 2 weeks before going gold |
| 21:22.49 | Freddy09 | cry more noob! TUFF IT OUT |
| 21:22.54 | Daegalus | 1 week before we get our final build to test |
| 21:22.57 | Daegalus | it was so damn fixed up |
| 21:23.03 | Daegalus | that we all fell out of our chairs |
| 21:23.17 | Freddy09 | dude |
| 21:23.18 | Freddy09 | daegalus |
| 21:23.20 | Freddy09 | i think i saw you on a PQ |
| 21:23.28 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:23.35 | `Zypher | EA is god, they could just throw 100s of man hours at it for the next month |
| 21:23.35 | Daegalus | im the only Daegalus in the world, so if you saw me, its most likely me |
| 21:23.37 | Freddy09 | I was talkin to someone on my marauder and he had worked on rockband |
| 21:23.37 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:23.48 | Daegalus | I also go about as Klow |
| 21:23.50 | Daegalus | or Ayetalam |
| 21:23.55 | Daegalus | or Klowen |
| 21:24.03 | `Zypher | Zypher / Adalyn / Saraena |
| 21:24.04 | `Zypher | :D |
| 21:24.10 | Freddy09 | too many names to count |
| 21:24.10 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:24.16 | Daegalus | so you are adalyn |
| 21:24.19 | `Zypher | no |
| 21:24.20 | Daegalus | i was wondering who that was |
| 21:24.21 | Freddy09 | i just slam my head on my keyboard and click enter |
| 21:24.27 | Freddy09 | ... zypher made zchatwindow |
| 21:24.30 | Freddy09 | that's how i figure that out |
| 21:24.30 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 21:24.33 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:24.35 | `Zypher | thats not that hard |
| 21:24.43 | `Zypher | should I add ` |
| 21:24.44 | `Zypher | to it |
| 21:24.47 | `Zypher | `zChatWindow? |
| 21:24.49 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:24.51 | Freddy09 | imba |
| 21:24.57 | Daegalus | sorry, ive been spamming that on the forums for the last week |
| 21:25.04 | Daegalus | i get worked up over it |
| 21:25.09 | Freddy09 | worked up! |
| 21:25.11 | Daegalus | when people call FAIL on something in beta |
| 21:25.18 | Freddy09 | so |
| 21:25.20 | `Zypher | oh its bound to happen |
| 21:25.25 | `Zypher | this is my quote |
| 21:25.26 | Freddy09 | daegalus is fanboi! |
| 21:25.28 | Freddy09 | point and laugh!! |
| 21:25.38 | Daegalus | no, its just common sense |
| 21:25.43 | `Zypher | "The soonder you accept that everyone on the internet is retarded, the sooner you can get back to being retarded." |
| 21:25.44 | Freddy09 | i love when people call you fanbois for praising the game |
| 21:25.47 | Freddy09 | and you're a troll if you hate it |
| 21:25.48 | `Zypher | sooner* |
| 21:25.49 | Freddy09 | how do you win! |
| 21:26.03 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 21:26.06 | Freddy09 | stupid is as stupid does zypher |
| 21:26.13 | `Zypher | this is true |
| 21:26.18 | `Zypher | but we are all stupid in someone's eye |
| 21:26.20 | Daegalus | do you really expect them to give you maximum graphics, and the most polished gameplay, when they are still working on functionality of the game? all that can go in afterwards, and at the speed Mythic works at. I severly doubt 95% of all the biggest bugs are gone by Open Beta |
| 21:26.29 | Freddy09 | don't look atme |
| 21:26.32 | Freddy09 | i expect it to be good |
| 21:26.36 | Freddy09 | i was bein sarcastic callin you a fanboi |
| 21:26.37 | Freddy09 | :P |
| 21:26.54 | Freddy09 | and |
| 21:27.01 | Freddy09 | you doubt 95% of the bugs will be gone by OB? |
| 21:27.02 | Freddy09 | huh |
| 21:27.06 | `Zypher | all I ask is that once the game launches my sli gives me op fps in rvr |
| 21:27.07 | Daegalus | usually when im all worked up, i get into a defensive/argumentative state |
| 21:27.10 | `Zypher | then I'll be happy |
| 21:27.18 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:27.18 | `Zypher | Daegalus: same. |
| 21:27.20 | Daegalus | i mean |
| 21:27.25 | Freddy09 | i don't care if my FPS is good as long as it's higher than 60 |
| 21:27.36 | `Zypher | Freddy09: well that is what I mean |
| 21:27.39 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:27.39 | Daegalus | doubt 95% of the bugs are not fixed by open beta |
| 21:27.40 | Freddy09 | :P |
| 21:27.42 | `Zypher | I get about 75 in pve |
| 21:27.46 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:27.46 | `Zypher | and in RvR about 25 |
| 21:27.48 | `Zypher | :| |
| 21:27.58 | Freddy09 | i'm getting about 50 in PvE and 30 in RvR |
| 21:27.58 | Daegalus | clients in debug mode |
| 21:28.02 | Freddy09 | how is your RvR droppin so low? |
| 21:28.02 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 21:28.04 | Daegalus | you will see better performance with teh live client |
| 21:28.07 | Daegalus | maybe even OB client |
| 21:28.08 | `Zypher | SLI buug. |
| 21:28.12 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 21:28.16 | `Zypher | it has problems loading textures |
| 21:28.19 | `Zypher | idk what it is |
| 21:28.21 | Freddy09 | i'ma upgrade to a 4870x2 whenever it drops below 500$ |
| 21:28.26 | Freddy09 | got a single slot mobo |
| 21:28.26 | Freddy09 | lawl |
| 21:28.30 | `Zypher | lawl |
| 21:28.37 | `Zypher | Dual 8800GTS 512;s |
| 21:28.42 | Freddy09 | :D |
| 21:28.44 | Daegalus | im going to make grapics enhancing Dockingbay for my laptop |
| 21:28.49 | Belatuca1ros | texture issue isn't SLI only ;\ |
| 21:28.52 | Daegalus | it will have 2, 4850x2s on it |
| 21:28.58 | Freddy09 | fun |
| 21:29.00 | `Zypher | Belatuca1ros: for serial? |
| 21:29.01 | Freddy09 | now if they would release those |
| 21:29.03 | Daegalus | it will connect throught hte docking bay slot |
| 21:29.05 | Daegalus | on my laptop |
| 21:29.17 | Daegalus | so when i want massive power for gaming at home |
| 21:29.18 | Freddy09 | daegalus: are the 4850s gonna have 1gb of vram per card too? |
| 21:29.19 | Belatuca1ros | depends what you mean...if it's the washed out/low LOD thing, lots of 8x00 series have been seeing it |
| 21:29.21 | Daegalus | i just pop it on |
| 21:29.27 | Belatuca1ros | mark posted about it in his preview weekend update even |
| 21:29.41 | `Zypher | Belatuca1ros: ya, where textures don't load on the ground etc. |
| 21:29.48 | Belatuca1ros | ya |
| 21:29.49 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:29.50 | Freddy09 | strage |
| 21:29.50 | `Zypher | like the high rez textures. |
| 21:29.52 | Freddy09 | strange |
| 21:29.57 | Freddy09 | my crappy 8800GT was loading everything |
| 21:30.11 | Freddy09 | maybe I got lucky? xD |
| 21:30.17 | `Zypher | its a prob with SLI for sure |
| 21:30.21 | Daegalus | i wonder how many coders mythic has |
| 21:30.26 | Freddy09 | i'd say 2 |
| 21:30.29 | Freddy09 | maybe 2.5 |
| 21:30.29 | `Zypher | I saw a major increase in fps with sli disabled |
| 21:30.41 | Freddy09 | lolwut |
| 21:30.42 | `Zypher | TF2 tiem |
| 21:31.12 | netcurse | omg Beluca1ros speaks |
| 21:31.23 | Aii | no, that was just the autoresponder netcurse |
| 21:31.44 | Belatuca1ros | more than 2.5 :P |
| 21:31.55 | Daegalus | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63427 looky here :P |
| 21:32.01 | Freddy09 | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1210254#post1210254 |
| 21:32.03 | Freddy09 | eek |
| 21:32.11 | Freddy09 | gon go see yours |
| 21:32.30 | Freddy09 | LOl it's same thing |
| 21:32.30 | Freddy09 | imba |
| 21:33.13 | Belatuca1ros | god I hope people switch back to staying OP instead of imba |
| 21:33.17 | Belatuca1ros | saying* |
| 21:33.36 | Freddy09 | but |
| 21:33.39 | Freddy09 | imba has a better ring to it |
| 21:33.42 | Aii | why, aren't a lot of the classes prone to falling over when they try to walk? |
| 21:34.04 | Freddy09 | woah |
| 21:34.10 | Freddy09 | Aii: don't understand your question at all |
| 21:34.58 | Aii | imba = imbalanced = not properly balanced = falls over |
| 21:35.18 | Aii | "- âAbility not readyâ messaging needs to be improve, a sound effect if Global Cooldown in effect, maybe more cowbell?" |
| 21:35.21 | Aii | I lol'd. |
| 21:35.28 | Freddy09 | woww |
| 21:35.40 | Daegalus | ya, I love how our devs have a sense of humor |
| 21:35.44 | Daegalus | especially MBJ |
| 21:35.48 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:36.00 | Aii | I like devs who can laugh. |
| 21:36.10 | Aii | Things like pop-culture references in games make me smile |
| 21:36.26 | Aii | like the Top Gun references in wow's skyguard dailies |
| 21:36.31 | Freddy09 | o.O |
| 21:36.37 | Aii | or the Drakes on the Plain quest in guild wars |
| 21:36.45 | Belatuca1ros | bahaha |
| 21:36.54 | Daegalus | WoW is a Pop Culture Reference in its entirety, they have hundreds of them |
| 21:36.54 | Freddy09 | This thing loves memory like Dan Aykroyd loves bass. We have already improved the memory consumption of the client and taken 100M out of current test best. |
| 21:37.01 | Freddy09 | they really do |
| 21:37.10 | Aii | (in which one of the dialogue items *is* "I'm sick and tired of these Balthazar-blasted drakes on this Blathazar-blasted plain!" |
| 21:37.19 | Freddy09 | lolol |
| 21:37.27 | Daegalus | so smcn, read that post and then think if you really wanna quit due to polish |
| 21:37.38 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:37.51 | Freddy09 | lol@ his (8) being turned into a smiley face |
| 21:37.52 | Freddy09 | pro |
| 21:37.59 | Daegalus | you should see all the funny stuff in the WAR Cities |
| 21:38.25 | Aii | - Unfortunately, a new bug (well an old bug we fixed and then managed to break again) which allowed Rank 10 RR 6 players can go to Tier 2 to get better gear and then come back to Tier 1 and own scenarios. We are currently working on a fix. |
| 21:38.29 | Aii | hurrah! |
| 21:38.36 | Freddy09 | Unfortunately, a new bug (well an old bug we fixed and then managed to break again) which allowed Rank 10 RR 6 players can go to Tier 2 to get better gear and then come back to Tier 1 and own scenarios. We are currently working on a fix. |
| 21:38.37 | Freddy09 | damn |
| 21:38.38 | Freddy09 | it |
| 21:38.38 | Freddy09 | LOL |
| 21:38.45 | Freddy09 | fail |
| 21:38.47 | Freddy09 | how was that a bug? |
| 21:39.08 | Aii | "P.S. The reason for all the Saturday Night Live references was that a poster or two dared me to work a certain phrase into the update. I kinda took that and ran with it." |
| 21:39.16 | Freddy09 | nice |
| 21:39.17 | Daegalus | cause the stats on CR10RR6 gear are made for T2 |
| 21:39.19 | Daegalus | not T1 |
| 21:39.22 | Daegalus | so anyone in T2 gear |
| 21:39.26 | Daegalus | sominated T1 |
| 21:39.29 | Daegalus | dominated* |
| 21:39.35 | Aii | im guessing the "bug" is that it should require rank 12 |
| 21:39.43 | Freddy09 | well i know that |
| 21:39.47 | Aii | since the other set of armor is rank 14 |
| 21:39.49 | Freddy09 | but i mean he said they had worked it outbefore |
| 21:39.57 | Aii | so to match up with 2/4, 22/24, etc |
| 21:40.05 | Freddy09 | ooh |
| 21:40.10 | Aii | Freddy09: probably means the items accidentally got reverted |
| 21:40.12 | Freddy09 | since this be make |
| 21:40.15 | Freddy09 | k |
| 21:40.26 | Aii | i.e. someone copied over an old file or something :P |
| 21:40.28 | Daegalus | ya but 22/24 is when the pattern ends |
| 21:40.30 | Daegalus | since you have 25/25 |
| 21:40.36 | Daegalus | 29/x |
| 21:40.37 | Freddy09 | eek |
| 21:40.38 | Daegalus | and so on |
| 21:40.43 | Aii | some of those are old ones I think |
| 21:40.54 | Aii | since they dont follow the same RR scaling |
| 21:40.56 | Daegalus | i dunno, 25/25 were epic if i remember right |
| 21:41.00 | Freddy09 | sooo |
| 21:41.01 | Aii | maybe |
| 21:41.05 | Freddy09 | are they gonna make any changes to PQ rolls? |
| 21:41.15 | Daegalus | dunno, nothing stated in that post |
| 21:41.34 | Freddy09 | cuz my luck sux, I get first-third and roll 100s almost every time |
| 21:41.41 | Freddy09 | makes me a sad panda! |
| 21:41.48 | Daegalus | i wonder who the youngest person in this channel. i used to be always hte youngest in programming channels, cause i started programming at 13. |
| 21:41.58 | Freddy09 | kik |
| 21:42.04 | Freddy09 | i'm deff "18" |
| 21:42.08 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:42.16 | Daegalus | im 19 now, so i know im not the youngest anymore |
| 21:42.25 | Freddy09 | i'ma say i'm the youngest |
| 21:42.33 | Daegalus | haha ok |
| 21:42.33 | Aii | I'm 21. |
| 21:43.01 | Aii | 21, 4 months, and 5 days. :P |
| 21:43.01 | Daegalus | haha, geeky girls are hot. thats all imma say |
| 21:43.07 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 21:43.18 | Daegalus | its just a fact |
| 21:43.25 | Freddy09 | geek stereotype is fail anyways |
| 21:43.39 | Freddy09 | you don't gotta look bad to be smart! |
| 21:43.59 | Daegalus | it deosnt mean they have to look like the geek stereotype, or be ugly. Imean my gf is a hot geek. she plays all games under the sun, an dwill be playing WAR with me |
| 21:44.13 | Daegalus | and likes tech |
| 21:44.14 | Freddy09 | that's a keeper |
| 21:44.18 | Daegalus | oh ya |
| 21:44.24 | Daegalus | http://www.kuncheff.com/nicole.jpg |
| 21:44.27 | Daegalus | thats her |
| 21:44.27 | netcurse | i'm 23 |
| 21:44.27 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 21:44.29 | Freddy09 | now he brags |
| 21:44.30 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:44.43 | Freddy09 | she aint blonde! |
| 21:44.49 | Daegalus | she is naturaly |
| 21:44.52 | Daegalus | she likes to die her hair |
| 21:45.02 | Daegalus | dye* |
| 21:45.16 | Daegalus | it had pink tips like 2 months ago |
| 21:45.20 | Daegalus | cause she got into naruto |
| 21:45.23 | Daegalus | and loved sakura |
| 21:45.25 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 21:46.48 | Daegalus | eh, doesnt matter to me shes still awesome |
| 21:47.21 | Freddy09 | ofc |
| 21:48.04 | Daegalus | though there is something most people dont know about her when i show that pic. Shes mute because when she was in her moms womb, her mom wa sin a car accident. and the seatbetl damaged her vocal cords. So i even learned sign language for her =) |
| 21:48.48 | Freddy09 | wow |
| 21:48.57 | Freddy09 | nice |
| 21:48.59 | Freddy09 | well |
| 21:49.00 | Freddy09 | not nice |
| 21:49.01 | Freddy09 | but |
| 21:49.05 | Freddy09 | i doint know what to say |
| 21:49.10 | Daegalus | lol its cool |
| 21:49.25 | Daegalus | shes not sensitive about it and doesnt care |
| 21:49.30 | Freddy09 | cool |
| 21:51.08 | Aii | you work at a car dealership? :P |
| 21:51.12 | Daegalus | and sorry if you guys could care less, im a really open guy, and talk about everything, so ya. Sorry for those that dont care :P |
| 21:51.14 | Daegalus | huh? |
| 21:51.16 | Daegalus | my dad does |
| 21:51.20 | Aii | ahh |
| 21:51.24 | Daegalus | Carsavings.us |
| 21:51.27 | Daegalus | Kuncheff.com |
| 21:51.29 | Aii | I just went to the main domain :P |
| 21:51.30 | Daegalus | and Yvaks.com |
| 21:51.31 | Aii | ^^ |
| 21:51.34 | Daegalus | point to the same domain |
| 21:51.37 | Daegalus | i mean server |
| 21:51.45 | Daegalus | ya imma do a redesign on that page |
| 21:52.06 | Daegalus | i made that one, but it was like 3-4 years ago, and i spent like 30 minutes on it |
| 21:52.35 | Daegalus | seeing as how i can make stuff like my guild website now. its quite bad |
| 21:52.48 | Daegalus | Aii is all on top of the information gathering |
| 21:52.50 | `Zypher | rawr |
| 21:52.52 | `Zypher | what did I miss? |
| 21:53.00 | Freddy09 | scroll is your friend |
| 21:53.01 | Freddy09 | :) |
| 21:53.04 | `Zypher | no |
| 21:53.05 | Daegalus | Aii: new task for you: find my email, address, phone, and date of birth. GO! |
| 21:53.07 | `Zypher | tell me what i missed |
| 21:53.13 | Daegalus | (all can be achieved through google) |
| 21:53.14 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:53.21 | Freddy09 | daeg talked about his GF |
| 21:53.23 | Freddy09 | and we listend |
| 21:53.34 | Freddy09 | and aii found some info |
| 21:53.37 | `Zypher | Daegalus@four.alameda.net |
| 21:53.43 | `Zypher | so you live in Alameda county |
| 21:53.48 | Daegalus | .../facepalm |
| 21:53.51 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:53.53 | `Zypher | no? |
| 21:53.56 | Aii | ~lart `Zypher |
| 21:53.56 | purl | puts `Zypher through a wood chipper |
| 21:54.03 | Freddy09 | ~lart Freddy09 |
| 21:54.03 | purl | installs PocketPC on Freddy09's PDA |
| 21:54.09 | Freddy09 | omg i love pocketpc |
| 21:54.10 | `Zypher | I'm so stupid |
| 21:54.11 | Freddy09 | i dont' get it |
| 21:54.11 | Daegalus | alameda.net is on of the IRC server nodes |
| 21:54.15 | `Zypher | oh |
| 21:54.16 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:54.22 | `Zypher | I feel like a tard |
| 21:54.32 | `Zypher | that seems to happen quite a lot to me |
| 21:54.35 | `Zypher | :-| |
| 21:54.43 | Daegalus | lol |
| 21:54.46 | Daegalus | dont worry im worse |
| 21:54.54 | `Zypher | atleast I has two addons |
| 21:54.57 | Freddy09 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.57 | `Zypher | and a third kinda addon |
| 21:55.11 | Daegalus | WINNAR!!!! |
| 21:55.13 | Freddy09 | i has 2 addons |
| 21:55.14 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 21:55.23 | AckisWork | someone mentioned the WAR internal client is 3 months ahead of closed beta... is that serious? |
| 21:55.25 | `Zypher | once I get lua syntax highlighting and saving It'll be the third addon |
| 21:55.31 | Freddy09 | daeg mentioned it |
| 21:55.32 | Daegalus | Ackis: yes it is |
| 21:55.39 | AckisWork | why? |
| 21:55.44 | `Zypher | I think they have said that a couple times |
| 21:55.46 | Freddy09 | lol jeeze zypher |
| 21:55.50 | Daegalus | Why not? |
| 21:55.57 | Freddy09 | you're notepad like thing is gnona be imba |
| 21:56.01 | AckisWork | I can understand a patch, but that far ahead doesn't allow people to test things |
| 21:56.05 | Freddy09 | is it possible to save from ingame though? |
| 21:56.06 | `Zypher | its going to be fun |
| 21:56.06 | Daegalus | it does |
| 21:56.09 | `Zypher | yes |
| 21:56.10 | Daegalus | its called regression testing |
| 21:56.13 | `Zypher | to savedvariables |
| 21:56.13 | Freddy09 | nice |
| 21:56.15 | Daegalus | we test old builds |
| 21:56.16 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:56.17 | Daegalus | for stuff they missed |
| 21:56.18 | Freddy09 | oh |
| 21:56.22 | Daegalus | and they add it or fix it in the current builds |
| 21:56.22 | Freddy09 | saved variables is no fun ;( |
| 21:56.25 | `Zypher | haha |
| 21:56.29 | Daegalus | if its not already fixed |
| 21:56.30 | Freddy09 | well i guess you could have that script run on init |
| 21:56.34 | `Zypher | but I'll make it so you can set it to run the scripts on start up |
| 21:56.39 | Daegalus | usually classes + combat are realtime |
| 21:56.39 | `Zypher | yea |
| 21:56.39 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:56.42 | AckisWork | Daegalus: there's going to be a 3 month time frame of development which will not have any closed beta testing |
| 21:56.50 | Freddy09 | elder IMO |
| 21:57.06 | Daegalus | Ackis: elder is 0-2weeks behind internal |
| 21:57.09 | `Zypher | Aii: what if any extra graphic control do you have elder? |
| 21:57.21 | `Zypher | on elder* |
| 21:57.33 | Freddy09 | i think elder is still covered by NDA |
| 21:57.37 | AckisWork | Daegalus: ahh ok, that I wasn't sure of (I only got into beta 2-3 weeks ago so I'm not an "elder") |
| 21:57.47 | Aii | Elder is still NDA, yes. |
| 21:57.48 | Freddy09 | there's an elder server ackis |
| 21:58.03 | Freddy09 | for more advanced testing |
| 21:58.04 | `Zypher | Aii: I don't care about ndas |
| 21:58.06 | Freddy09 | or somethin of the likes |
| 21:58.08 | Freddy09 | LOL |
| 21:58.12 | Freddy09 | win |
| 21:58.15 | Freddy09 | we won't tell! |
| 21:58.16 | Freddy09 | promise |
| 21:58.21 | Freddy09 | (prepares print screen button) |
| 21:58.22 | Daegalus | ya, elder server is the first to play it after internal testing |
| 21:58.26 | AckisWork | no forum account even though I could make one when I first got in but servers were down :( and no elder access on my account info thing |
| 21:58.28 | Daegalus | its why they still have an NDA |
| 21:58.40 | Daegalus | they play on the internal test servers sometimes |
| 21:58.51 | Daegalus | I have friends in Elder |
| 21:59.02 | `Zypher | aren't you just a cool cat! |
| 21:59.07 | Freddy09 | meh daeg |
| 21:59.10 | Aii | everyone in this channel has a friend in elder |
| 21:59.10 | Freddy09 | you aren't covered by their NDA |
| 21:59.11 | Freddy09 | gogo |
| 21:59.15 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:59.15 | Aii | except Freddy09 |
| 21:59.16 | AckisWork | Aii: not me :( |
| 21:59.19 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:59.20 | Freddy09 | LOL aii makes me sad |
| 21:59.22 | Aii | Freddy09 doesnt have a friend |
| 21:59.24 | Freddy09 | ackis be my friend |
| 21:59.25 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 21:59.26 | `Zypher | Freddy09: ownt |
| 21:59.37 | Freddy09 | it's ok, i'm used to being owned |
| 21:59.43 | Aii | <3 Freddy09 :) |
| 21:59.47 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 21:59.48 | Freddy09 | yay |
| 22:00.17 | AckisWork | aii: are you elder? |
| 22:00.31 | Freddy09 | ackis, you're so far behind ATM |
| 22:00.37 | Aii | AckisWork: Yes, I'm in elder. |
| 22:00.45 | `Zypher | Slow AckisWork is Slow. |
| 22:00.46 | Aii | You've also asked me that before. |
| 22:00.50 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 22:01.09 | Daegalus | forgetful AckisWork si forgetful |
| 22:01.11 | Aii | So while I'm in elder, you're the one with senior moments. :P |
| 22:01.14 | AckisWork | no I didn't, I asked you what elder access looked like :P |
| 22:01.20 | Freddy09 | lul |
| 22:01.24 | `Zypher | local slow = AckisWork; if(slow == true) then /giggle |
| 22:01.25 | AckisWork | it didn't mean that you were an elder |
| 22:01.26 | `Zypher | end |
| 22:01.28 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 22:01.36 | Freddy09 | so |
| 22:01.37 | Freddy09 | basically |
| 22:01.41 | Freddy09 | you said if ackiswork is true |
| 22:01.44 | Freddy09 | so if he isn't nil? |
| 22:01.49 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:01.50 | Freddy09 | i'm lost ATM |
| 22:01.50 | `Zypher | shush |
| 22:01.54 | `Zypher | don't worry about it |
| 22:01.58 | Daegalus | ROFL |
| 22:02.03 | `Zypher | I've been up for too many hours. |
| 22:02.08 | Daegalus | Freddy: its not meant to work, just hte logic of it |
| 22:02.13 | Freddy09 | but |
| 22:02.20 | Freddy09 | i know that |
| 22:02.25 | `Zypher | logic is fun. |
| 22:02.25 | Freddy09 | ... |
| 22:02.27 | Aii | when i responded to your question of "what does elder access look like" with "In my accounts page, it displays "Elder Closed Beta Tester".. :P |
| 22:02.30 | Freddy09 | i'm just joking |
| 22:02.34 | Aii | emphasis on "my" :P |
| 22:02.45 | `Zypher | I'm elder |
| 22:02.45 | Freddy09 | emphasis would have been capitalizing it |
| 22:02.48 | `Zypher | I just lied to you all. |
| 22:02.56 | `Zypher | ;) |
| 22:03.00 | Freddy09 | good call |
| 22:03.07 | Freddy09 | wouldn't want us to know that |
| 22:03.11 | Freddy09 | we might track you down and steal it |
| 22:03.30 | AckisWork | aii: but that doesn't mean I asked the question ahahah :P (ps: do you have the preview weekend thing show up in your accounts page?) |
| 22:03.35 | Daegalus | who wants to know my IP!!!! its STATIC!!! *zap* |
| 22:03.55 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 22:04.01 | Freddy09 | you have a static IP comin from your provider? |
| 22:04.04 | Freddy09 | no wai! |
| 22:04.10 | Aii | AckisWork: what preview weekend thing? |
| 22:04.14 | Aii | do you mean head start weekend? |
| 22:04.21 | Daegalus | yup, and if you paid close attention, you would have figured it out by now |
| 22:04.25 | Aii | or the preview weekend that just ended? |
| 22:04.27 | Freddy09 | oh |
| 22:04.33 | Freddy09 | War Preview won't be in acocunt page if you have Closed Beta |
| 22:04.48 | Aii | Daegalus: would it be the one that the DNS for your web page points to? |
| 22:04.53 | AckisWork | Aii: the one that just ended, was just kinda curious as to the different things you get to show up in the account page |
| 22:05.00 | Daegalus | maaaaaaybe. |
| 22:05.03 | Aii | AckisWork: There's no special entry for me for that |
| 22:05.11 | Aii | because any closed beta tester had access to it |
| 22:05.34 | Daegalus | cause you can do kuncheff.com:81 |
| 22:05.36 | Daegalus | too :P |
| 22:06.12 | AckisWork | Aii: just was wondering, I got the invite for the preview and am closed beta tester (although that means nothing now) |
| 22:07.09 | Freddy09 | ./sad for beta being over for 2 weeks |
| 22:07.24 | Daegalus | Freddy: not for me ;D |
| 22:07.29 | Freddy09 | ...... |
| 22:07.37 | Daegalus | shhhhh |
| 22:07.47 | Freddy09 | daegalus has a private server |
| 22:07.48 | Freddy09 | info go |
| 22:07.58 | `Zypher | there is a project *shuuuush* |
| 22:08.04 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:08.08 | Freddy09 | project mayhem pt 2? |
| 22:08.17 | `Zypher | it might or might not be called dWarf |
| 22:09.41 | Daegalus | lol |
| 22:09.57 | Daegalus | no freddy, its not a private server, per say |
| 22:10.01 | Freddy09 | :P |
| 22:10.04 | Freddy09 | just private to you!! |
| 22:10.09 | Freddy09 | only for the select elite |
| 22:10.15 | Daegalus | no, more like private to mythic.... |
| 22:10.19 | Freddy09 | (: |
| 22:10.22 | Freddy09 | i got it |
| 22:10.30 | Freddy09 | it's a board game! |
| 22:10.35 | Freddy09 | you go to mythic hq and have tea |
| 22:11.27 | Daegalus | im just kidding |
| 22:11.47 | Freddy09 | it's ok |
| 22:11.51 | Freddy09 | i took the screenshot before you said that part |
| 22:11.52 | Freddy09 | :p |
| 22:12.02 | AckisWork | so this chicken mechanic |
| 22:12.08 | AckisWork | sounds fun |
| 22:12.21 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:12.27 | Daegalus | Ackis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-qw51LtIU4 |
| 22:12.32 | Freddy09 | you don't know how many WoWtards have said it sux |
| 22:12.37 | Freddy09 | b/c they wanna gank with their lvl 40s |
| 22:12.46 | Freddy09 | (not implying all wow players are idiots) |
| 22:12.46 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 22:13.05 | Freddy09 | rofl daegalus |
| 22:13.06 | Freddy09 | imba |
| 22:13.19 | Freddy09 | i wonder if those could take someone out if they all attacked |
| 22:13.31 | *** join/#waruidev pewpewarrows (n=pewpewar@c-68-49-103-200.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) |
| 22:13.52 | Daegalus | seeing as they do 1 dmg |
| 22:13.55 | Daegalus | a lot |
| 22:13.59 | Freddy09 | it's possible |
| 22:14.01 | Daegalus | 1 dmg per second |
| 22:14.11 | Daegalus | but chickens are 1 shot kills |
| 22:14.17 | Daegalus | so if a Sorc came in and AoEd |
| 22:14.19 | AckisWork | so you turn into a chicken when you go into a rvr area at a high level and you aren't supposed to be there? |
| 22:14.19 | Aii | well, not quite |
| 22:14.21 | Aii | but close |
| 22:14.22 | Daegalus | or a Marauder did |
| 22:14.24 | Aii | they have 190 hp |
| 22:14.41 | Freddy09 | ackis if you got to a RvR area at 2 lvls above tier (ie 12) you get chicified |
| 22:14.43 | Daegalus | ya, but aii, their amro is reduced to 1 |
| 22:14.50 | Daegalus | so they tak elike 300 form a level 1 |
| 22:15.04 | AckisWork | Freddy09: how do you complete quests/tome stuff then? |
| 22:15.06 | Aii | no, they take the exact amount listed by the ability and modified by the proper attribute |
| 22:15.11 | Aii | which is not 300 |
| 22:15.17 | Freddy09 | you can stillq uest |
| 22:15.19 | Freddy09 | it's RvR zones |
| 22:15.25 | Freddy09 | unless you're on openRVR server |
| 22:15.28 | Daegalus | you dont chicken in PVE areas on core servers |
| 22:15.32 | Freddy09 | basically when you get flagged for RvR |
| 22:15.33 | Daegalus | so you can go back if you want |
| 22:15.44 | Daegalus | so dont flag for RVR and you will be fine |
| 22:15.51 | Freddy09 | in other words, don't heal anyone! |
| 22:15.57 | AckisWork | open rvr = wow pvp, core rvr = wow pve? |
| 22:15.58 | Freddy09 | could be a trap:p |
| 22:16.01 | Freddy09 | no |
| 22:16.14 | Daegalus | no |
| 22:16.15 | Freddy09 | core RvR = wow PvP, open RvR = chickens everywhere |
| 22:16.26 | Daegalus | what freddy said |
| 22:16.45 | Freddy09 | it's a pvp based game, core is going to be pvp |
| 22:16.46 | Daegalus | Core RVR = open RVR, except, Open RVR has no bolster, always PVP flagged, and cant go into lower tiers |
| 22:16.59 | Freddy09 | eww, no bolster is scary |
| 22:17.09 | AckisWork | bolster = upgraded to levels? |
| 22:17.15 | Freddy09 | upgraded to lvl x8 |
| 22:17.19 | Daegalus | bolster is the buff the brings you up to rank x8 |
| 22:17.24 | Daegalus | if you re under it |
| 22:17.52 | AckisWork | so it sounds like because of the chicken mechanic, core RVR > open RVR |
| 22:18.29 | Freddy09 | pretty much |
| 22:18.40 | Freddy09 | this game doesn't seem to be made to be pure RvR |
| 22:18.51 | Freddy09 | doens't seem to fit with the style |
| 22:18.58 | AckisWork | well ganking in lowbie zones was never really fun |
| 22:19.15 | Freddy09 | esp for the ppl getting ganked |
| 22:19.18 | Daegalus | i think Mythic did it on purpose |
| 22:19.21 | Daegalus | they gave people Open RVR |
| 22:19.22 | AckisWork | getting or giving it was boring |
| 22:19.23 | Daegalus | but made it suck |
| 22:19.29 | Daegalus | until people tried Core on PW |
| 22:19.33 | Daegalus | and said Open RVR isnt even needed |
| 22:19.39 | Aii | heh |
| 22:19.47 | Aii | the people who were complaining about no open rvr |
| 22:19.48 | Freddy09 | inc words of wisdom |
| 22:19.52 | Daegalus | the latest poll for Core vs Open, is like 95% core, 5% open |
| 22:19.53 | Aii | didnt really understand WAR |
| 22:20.06 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:20.11 | Daegalus | ya, but im suprised the internal poll on teh beta forums |
| 22:20.12 | pewpewarrows | I'd prefer open rvr a thousand times over |
| 22:20.15 | Aii | they thought it was going to be like wow pve servers |
| 22:20.15 | Daegalus | where people wanted Open so much |
| 22:20.16 | pewpewarrows | if mythic actually did it right |
| 22:20.20 | Aii | where noone really did world pvp |
| 22:20.30 | pewpewarrows | their current orvr ruleset is a disgrace to the name though |
| 22:20.39 | `Zypher | Aii: did they finally say no Open servers? |
| 22:20.40 | Daegalus | pewpew, this game wasnt made for open |
| 22:20.43 | Aii | `Zypher: no |
| 22:20.46 | `Zypher | damn |
| 22:20.55 | Aii | pewpewarrows: what ruleset /would/ you want |
| 22:21.02 | Freddy09 | omg i can't take the yelling on vent anymore |
| 22:21.10 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:21.19 | pewpewarrows | one sec, on the phone |
| 22:22.07 | pewpewarrows | ok |
| 22:22.22 | pewpewarrows | what I want is chicken in chapter one racial areas |
| 22:22.28 | Daegalus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8sHLGUS5U&feature=related ZOMG CHICKEN WAR |
| 22:22.32 | pewpewarrows | rvr flag everywhere else, no chicken |
| 22:22.58 | pewpewarrows | with an inverse bolster buff for higher players going to lower tiers |
| 22:23.05 | `Zypher | ooh |
| 22:23.08 | Daegalus | without the bolste rbuff though, lots of ganking would happen on ORVRlike that, and Mythic said they HATE HATE HATE ganking, and are against anything they want |
| 22:23.08 | `Zypher | that would be cool |
| 22:23.12 | Aii | Paul actually discussed that |
| 22:23.26 | Daegalus | even with reverse bolster |
| 22:23.26 | Aii | they considered that, but it was overly complicated |
| 22:23.27 | Freddy09 | inverse bolster wouldn't do anything to armor or spell count though |
| 22:23.29 | Daegalus | your gear outshines them |
| 22:23.40 | Daegalus | and you have spells they dont ge |
| 22:23.47 | `Zypher | well |
| 22:23.50 | `Zypher | I'll be playing Core |
| 22:24.02 | `Zypher | but thats because I don't understand ganking at all... |
| 22:24.03 | Aii | pewpewarrows: what would you gain by playing that instead of Core? |
| 22:24.14 | pewpewarrows | no, bolster affects everything |
| 22:24.19 | Freddy09 | no it doesn't |
| 22:24.21 | Aii | no, it doesn't pewpewarrows |
| 22:24.28 | Daegalus | nope |
| 22:24.30 | Aii | I can tell you that it most certainly doesn't |
| 22:24.41 | pewpewarrows | and in normal pairings higher level players have skills lowers don't anyway |
| 22:24.47 | Freddy09 | well yes |
| 22:24.50 | Freddy09 | but imagine 30 more skills |
| 22:24.53 | pewpewarrows | rank 30 vs rank 21 |
| 22:24.58 | Aii | imagine having silence in tier 1 |
| 22:25.06 | Aii | (well okay, not tier 1, but tier 2) |
| 22:25.06 | Daegalus | thats only like what 2-3 skills |
| 22:25.09 | Daegalus | 2 tactics |
| 22:25.11 | Daegalus | and maybe a morale |
| 22:25.17 | Daegalus | its not that many over for 10 levles |
| 22:25.25 | Daegalus | now imaginge level 5 vs level 40 |
| 22:25.26 | pewpewarrows | core servers don't stick to the tagline of "war is everywhere" |
| 22:25.31 | Daegalus | yes the do |
| 22:25.32 | pewpewarrows | that's what they're marketing the game as |
| 22:25.39 | Freddy09 | they stick to the tagline of it's an mmo though |
| 22:25.41 | Aii | screw taglines |
| 22:25.49 | Aii | taglines are stupid anyways |
| 22:25.55 | Daegalus | they said War is everywhere, not PVP is everywhere |
| 22:26.00 | Daegalus | War includes the PVE also |
| 22:26.01 | pewpewarrows | hundreds of times in beta I've come across order when running along, and I can't kill them |
| 22:26.03 | pewpewarrows | that isn't war |
| 22:26.04 | Daegalus | since you are at war |
| 22:26.16 | Aii | s/kill/gank/ |
| 22:26.20 | Aii | but ok |
| 22:26.23 | pewpewarrows | no |
| 22:26.28 | pewpewarrows | they were higher level than me |
| 22:26.31 | pewpewarrows | running on a road |
| 22:26.38 | pewpewarrows | I want to kill them |
| 22:26.40 | Aii | and with open rvr in the current ruleset |
| 22:26.43 | Aii | you'll still be able to |
| 22:26.51 | pewpewarrows | and it completely ruins the rest of the game |
| 22:27.00 | pewpewarrows | never being able to completely unlock the tome |
| 22:27.05 | Aii | yes, because the game wasn't designed for that |
| 22:27.05 | pewpewarrows | never being able to go back |
| 22:27.18 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 22:27.21 | Aii | can't have it all |
| 22:27.21 | pewpewarrows | core wasn't designed for that, a good open implementation can |
| 22:27.31 | Aii | but it's not worth it, pewpewarrows |
| 22:27.37 | Aii | 95% of the playerbase doesnt want what you want |
| 22:27.42 | Aii | why should they spend the time and effort |
| 22:27.54 | Aii | on what is most definitely a complicated endeavour |
| 22:27.55 | pewpewarrows | no, that pole was for the current ruleset designs |
| 22:28.00 | pewpewarrows | I would vote for core right now |
| 22:28.05 | pewpewarrows | because their open ruleset is trash |
| 22:29.06 | pewpewarrows | but this is all mute anyway, mythic isn't going to foreseeably change it between now and release |
| 22:29.17 | Aii | *moot |
| 22:29.21 | pewpewarrows | yes |
| 22:29.23 | Aii | mute means without sound :P |
| 22:29.26 | Daegalus | exactly, its the way mythic sees it. its why they did it, they wanted to show you what kind of PoS a Open server is, so that you guys think before talking. have you played the game? there is constant WAR. SZMG I CANT KILL A DWARF THAT RUN BY ME, FAIL, I QUIT, LIFE HATES ME. Jeez, grow up and learn to play a game, not a Real Life simulator |
| 22:29.46 | pewpewarrows | ... |
| 22:29.52 | Freddy09 | ahh |
| 22:30.30 | pewpewarrows | I really don't think that was called for Daegalus |
| 22:30.30 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:30.39 | pewpewarrows | but I'm not going to get into it |
| 22:31.11 | Daegalus | it was, because im tired of this argument. because i said it 4 million times on the forums, and every point the ORVR server people bring up, is completely shattered with logic and reason. |
| 22:32.28 | pewpewarrows | again, I'm not getting into it, if you have a problem with me please take it up in pms |
| 22:32.48 | Aii | indeed, not a topic for this channel really :P |
| 22:33.08 | Daegalus | no its not a personal problem. its an overall problem i have. I guess today has been a day of topics i get really heated about |
| 22:33.09 | Aii | but it is most certainly an opinion matter |
| 22:33.18 | Aii | Daegalus: take a break then ;) |
| 22:33.24 | Aii | one should not get worked up over forums |
| 22:33.32 | Aii | because internets are not srs bsnss. |
| 22:34.12 | Daegalus | no i dont get worked up over forums. i usually ignore it, but i just debate, and then debate gets heated, cause i try to prove my side to the point where i defend every point and try to shatter every one of hteres. :P |
| 22:34.27 | Daegalus | but if they out do me |
| 22:34.29 | Daegalus | i admit defeat |
| 22:34.32 | Daegalus | in most cases |
| 22:34.34 | AckisWork | so, in sum: open rvr sucks, core rvr doesn't? :P |
| 22:34.40 | Daegalus | pretty much |
| 22:34.56 | pewpewarrows | again, let's not get into it |
| 22:34.59 | Daegalus | Aii: i dunno if you were around for the Dark Elf civil war of O7 |
| 22:35.01 | pewpewarrows | I'm not going to debate it here |
| 22:35.27 | AckisWork | anyways I'm off for the night :P |
| 22:35.37 | Aii | what you have to realize is that some things are opinion issues |
| 22:35.45 | Aii | and opinion issues can't be fully "proven" either way |
| 22:35.51 | Daegalus | ya i know |
| 22:35.52 | Aii | you can make good arguments for one side or another |
| 22:36.09 | Daegalus | i just try to prove it by using mythics actions as an example :P |
| 22:36.39 | *** join/#waruidev Nyborek (n=kero@dslb-088-074-011-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:37.45 | Daegalus | anyways, imma take a chill pill for a bit and stray away from anything that gets me heated up for a while :P |
| 22:38.00 | Freddy09 | daegalus is going to avoid ovens |
| 22:38.01 | Freddy09 | at all costs |
| 22:38.06 | `Zypher | haha |
| 22:38.08 | Daegalus | LOL |
| 22:38.21 | Daegalus | kinda hard since I cook a lot |
| 22:38.26 | `Zypher | I've decided arguing about opinions is silly because if its an opinion they never have to accept defeat! |
| 22:38.29 | Freddy09 | guess you gotta get heated up then |
| 22:38.41 | Freddy09 | rofl zypher |
| 22:38.45 | Daegalus | ya, if you cant take the heat, stay out of hte kitchen :P |
| 22:38.49 | Freddy09 | politicians would disagree |
| 22:38.49 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 22:38.55 | `Zypher | or my room Daegalus |
| 22:39.01 | Freddy09 | k |
| 22:39.01 | Freddy09 | won't ask |
| 22:39.04 | `Zypher | its quite hot in here with 3 computers and 4 monitors |
| 22:39.20 | `Zypher | well |
| 22:39.21 | `Zypher | ones a tv |
| 22:39.25 | `Zypher | so 3 monitors and a tv |
| 22:39.30 | Freddy09 | size? |
| 22:39.37 | Daegalus | how bout 8 ocmputers, no AC and 97 degrees outside |
| 22:39.41 | Freddy09 | jesus |
| 22:39.44 | `Zypher | I have two 15" mons |
| 22:39.45 | Freddy09 | why do you even turn them on |
| 22:39.47 | `Zypher | and 1 19" |
| 22:39.50 | Freddy09 | i meant of the TV |
| 22:39.51 | Freddy09 | but ok |
| 22:39.52 | `Zypher | then the tv is who knows what |
| 22:39.53 | `Zypher | lol |
| 22:39.54 | Daegalus | Freddy: servers |
| 22:39.58 | Daegalus | i host my website on them |
| 22:39.59 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:40.03 | Daegalus | and anything else i want |
| 22:40.13 | Daegalus | i used to host Ragnarok Online private servers |
| 22:40.18 | Freddy09 | IMO |
| 22:40.20 | Freddy09 | go to goodwill |
| 22:40.22 | Freddy09 | buy ever fan in stock |
| 22:40.23 | Freddy09 | and have a blash |
| 22:40.25 | Freddy09 | blast |
| 22:40.38 | Daegalus | no, its not that we dont have AC, its jut the only room without it |
| 22:40.43 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:40.47 | Daegalus | but im getting a seperate AC for the room soon |
| 22:40.50 | Freddy09 | that doesn't make my above statement "MOOT" |
| 22:41.04 | Daegalus | true |
| 22:41.20 | Freddy09 | so |
| 22:41.28 | Freddy09 | you put your server in the room without AC |
| 22:41.28 | Freddy09 | ;( |
| 22:41.33 | Freddy09 | i bet it feels unloved |
| 22:41.40 | Nyborek | http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/warhammeronline/ |
| 22:41.44 | Nyborek | FilePlanet and Founders' Club Exclusive Access. |
| 22:41.45 | Nyborek | LOL |
| 22:41.48 | Freddy09 | ye |
| 22:41.50 | Freddy09 | i've seen that |
| 22:41.53 | Nyborek | Pay to play beta, again |
| 22:41.59 | Freddy09 | mey |
| 22:42.03 | Freddy09 | it's not paying to play beta if you just preorder |
| 22:42.05 | Daegalus | i have a hard time handling the heat during the summer, cause I generate too much of my own. My skin is always hot, and i have like a 2 inch aura of heat around me because i give off a lot. Im usually in a tshirt in the winter. and i have people usng me a as a heater sometimes |
| 22:42.06 | Nyborek | remebers me at Crysis last year or AoC this year |
| 22:42.21 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 22:42.34 | Freddy09 | well |
| 22:42.37 | Freddy09 | i'm never hot |
| 22:42.41 | Nyborek | This is so LOL |
| 22:42.48 | Freddy09 | fileplanet is sad |
| 22:42.52 | Nyborek | to |
| 22:42.54 | Nyborek | no |
| 22:42.56 | Nyborek | Mythic is |
| 22:43.00 | Freddy09 | (: |
| 22:43.06 | Freddy09 | wutever you say! |
| 22:43.10 | Daegalus | hey, i cant argue, the gf loves it in the winter... and anytime other than summer. shes always cold |
| 22:43.13 | Freddy09 | IMO that was mythic's bribe for fileplanet to host it |
| 22:43.19 | Freddy09 | rofl daeg |
| 22:43.22 | Freddy09 | gotta get her all snuggled up |
| 22:43.32 | Daegalus | usually i dont do anything |
| 22:43.34 | Daegalus | when she gets cold |
| 22:43.37 | Daegalus | she just find me |
| 22:43.41 | Freddy09 | lolol] |
| 22:43.44 | Daegalus | and like dives into me |
| 22:44.02 | Daegalus | she once accidently kneed me in the crotch...... |
| 22:44.05 | Freddy09 | LOL |
| 22:44.10 | Freddy09 | oww |
| 22:44.19 | Daegalus | and it had some force behind it |
| 22:44.32 | Daegalus | so i was on the ground for a while |
| 22:45.09 | Freddy09 | ROFL |
| 22:45.12 | Freddy09 | doh caps |
| 22:45.23 | Freddy09 | so pew pew left us |
| 22:45.31 | Freddy09 | daeg is now qualified as the winner |
| 22:45.50 | Daegalus | nah |
| 22:47.09 | Daegalus | oh you know what was funny, when i was playing on my waterpolo team. Every time near the end of the season, since it was winter by the time we go there. When i would sit on the bench to take a break, i would have water evaporating from me. People could see steam lifting from my skin xD |
| 22:47.31 | Daegalus | while most others were shivering in huge coats |
| 22:47.38 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 22:47.40 | Freddy09 | holy crap |
| 22:47.56 | Freddy09 | ..... |
| 22:48.03 | Daegalus | god i love being russian. i accept every stereotype :P I even got the nickname, Polo Bear :P |
| 22:48.04 | Freddy09 | imo |
| 22:48.07 | Freddy09 | you shouold have a doctor look at that |
| 22:48.19 | Daegalus | we have, he said it was fine |
| 22:48.22 | Freddy09 | lolol |
| 22:48.22 | Daegalus | and nothing to worry about |
| 22:48.29 | Daegalus | except |
| 22:48.31 | Daegalus | i never drink |
| 22:48.32 | Freddy09 | use your gift Jesus and save the world! |
| 22:48.34 | Daegalus | no urge to |
| 22:48.38 | Daegalus | could care less |
| 22:48.40 | Freddy09 | it's ok |
| 22:48.42 | Daegalus | never touched alcohol |
| 22:48.56 | Freddy09 | if you can stay happy and unstressed w/out alcohol |
| 22:48.57 | Freddy09 | omre power to you |
| 22:48.57 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 22:49.06 | Daegalus | well most people expect me to have alreayd done it cause im russian |
| 22:49.24 | Freddy09 | meh |
| 22:49.27 | Freddy09 | i don't stereotype anyone |
| 22:49.30 | Daegalus | haha, im probably the calmest and patient person ever. xD |
| 22:49.31 | Freddy09 | mainly cuz i don't know how to |
| 22:49.33 | Freddy09 | but wutever! |
| 22:49.43 | Freddy09 | except i do know asians have squinty eyes! |
| 22:49.56 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 22:50.14 | Daegalus | Russian steroetypes: Drink, all communists, handle cold real well because of the Russian winters. and umm drink |
| 22:50.29 | Daegalus | though 2 of those 3 are really true for a lot of russians |
| 22:50.39 | Freddy09 | if their all communist |
| 22:50.46 | Freddy09 | why did they stop being communist |
| 22:51.01 | Daegalus | i dunno, its like mixed in russia |
| 22:51.06 | Daegalus | some people still wish it was a communism |
| 22:51.21 | Freddy09 | =( |
| 22:51.22 | Daegalus | i just think the communist government was way too corrupt |
| 22:51.28 | Daegalus | so they overthrew it |
| 22:51.39 | Freddy09 | well it's a decent system |
| 22:51.44 | Daegalus | and i have to correct myself. it was never a communism, it was a Socialism |
| 22:51.44 | Freddy09 | if the economy isn't doing well on it's own |
| 22:52.14 | Freddy09 | neways |
| 22:52.22 | Daegalus | communism is a utopian idea that is can only be done when human nature evolves, and loses greed, corruption, and other things |
| 22:52.35 | Daegalus | which seems almost impossible at the moment |
| 22:52.41 | Freddy09 | it's ok |
| 22:52.47 | Freddy09 | we'll just let the chimps use our elite system |
| 22:53.14 | Freddy09 | but humans w/out greed and corruption seems pretty boring |
| 22:53.39 | Daegalus | im talking from a philosphical point of view. Karl marx had some great ideas, just he never outlined how to get to them because he said, there is no true way to get to it, it just happens when it does |
| 22:54.28 | Freddy09 | woo marxism |
| 22:54.32 | Freddy09 | so |
| 22:54.39 | Daegalus | kinda like philosophy. Took it last quarter in college |
| 22:54.51 | Freddy09 | figures |
| 22:55.27 | Freddy09 | so yeah |
| 22:55.36 | Freddy09 | i've heard philosophy and psychology are 2 classes everyone should take in college |
| 22:55.41 | Freddy09 | just for principle |
| 22:55.54 | Daegalus | we covered Kantianism, Utilitarianism, (something here, but forgot what it was) Freudism, Marxism, Eric Fromm. now im taking another philosophy class next quarter |
| 22:55.58 | Freddy09 | ahh |
| 22:56.05 | Freddy09 | gl w/ that |
| 22:56.05 | Freddy09 | ! |
| 22:56.25 | Daegalus | im taking the same teacher i had last quarter |
| 22:56.30 | Daegalus | gives little to no homework |
| 22:56.33 | Daegalus | and can actually teach |
| 22:56.34 | Freddy09 | who likes change? |
| 22:56.35 | Freddy09 | =) |
| 22:56.54 | Daegalus | no philosophy is fun. it gives you a bit of another outlook on life and society |
| 22:57.00 | Freddy09 | lol huh |
| 22:57.11 | Freddy09 | i don't see what i said that brought you to respond like that |
| 22:57.14 | Freddy09 | but ok! |
| 22:57.29 | Daegalus | the gl w/ that msg |
| 22:57.32 | Freddy09 | i meant gl in the class |
| 22:57.37 | Freddy09 | cuz you said you were takin again |
| 22:57.37 | Freddy09 | :( |
| 22:57.39 | Daegalus | ya, i understand that now |
| 22:58.10 | Daegalus | well its a different phil class. not the same one. last time it was Phil 20C, this one is Phil 2A or whatever |
| 22:58.49 | Daegalus | but ya, after reading Eric Fromm's stuff, i see it all over the place. kinda creepy> i even used his philosophy to help someone out with some problems, and it turned out good. so im kinda liking fromm |
| 22:58.58 | Daegalus | Freud was a sexist pig |
| 22:59.03 | Daegalus | Marx was awesome |
| 22:59.04 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 22:59.06 | Daegalus | Kant was good too |
| 22:59.17 | Daegalus | Utiliarianism was stupid in all shapes and forms |
| 22:59.18 | Freddy09 | i know nothing about philosphy |
| 22:59.58 | Daegalus | OHHH Nietzsche thats who i forgot |
| 23:00.07 | Daegalus | he had some good ideas, but when about it the wrong way |
| 23:00.22 | Freddy09 | k |
| 23:00.35 | Daegalus | Nietzsche's stuf fis kinda the basis of Hitler's crazyness |
| 23:00.48 | Freddy09 | love the guy already |
| 23:00.50 | Daegalus | Hitler tooks Nietzsche's ideas and went radical on them |
| 23:01.20 | Daegalus | ya, lots of flaws |
| 23:02.01 | Daegalus | Political dictators of the twentieth century, including Stalin,[58] Hitler,[59] and Mussolini[60] read Nietzsche. The Nazis made use of Nietzsche's philosophy, but did so selectively; this association with National Socialism caused Nietzsche's reputation to suffer following the Second World War. |
| 23:02.03 | Daegalus | lol |
| 23:02.06 | Daegalus | thats on wikipedia |
| 23:02.24 | Freddy09 | rofl |
| 23:06.57 | Daegalus | ok im cool now |
| 23:07.09 | Freddy09 | k |
| 23:07.14 | Freddy09 | so you can go cook now/ |
| 23:07.15 | Freddy09 | ? |
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| 23:08.44 | Aii | Halp im locked in a philosophy factory |
| 23:08.51 | Freddy09 | lolol |
| 23:09.03 | Aii | Belatuca1ros: make mythic put the servers back up so these nuts will have a distraction again :| |
| 23:09.31 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 23:10.56 | Freddy09 | k i'ma go watch a movie so i don't bother you aii! |
| 23:12.58 | Daegalus | sorry Aii, im bored. and I was taking a break from my art project |
| 23:13.38 | lazarenth | Hey all, I'm just learning Lua for UI modding. I have programmed in C and Java before.. from reading the documentation I am getting that Lua only uses as much memory as it needs to? like arrays that can automatically be dynamic and the number type can automatically be a double? |
| 23:13.56 | Freddy09 | number is a type |
| 23:13.58 | Freddy09 | there are no doubles |
| 23:14.02 | Freddy09 | arrays size automatically |
| 23:14.04 | Daegalus | numbers are a combination of ints and doubles into 1 type |
| 23:14.12 | lazarenth | or does it just use the memory and say "heck those new fangles computers fast enough" |
| 23:14.16 | lazarenth | yeah i get that |
| 23:14.25 | Freddy09 | lol |
| 23:14.26 | Daegalus | it uses as much memory as it needs |
| 23:14.45 | lazarenth | ok, I was just wondering while reading :) |
| 23:15.31 | lazarenth | thanks |
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| 23:17.55 | Freddy09 | lol@flood |
| 23:19.14 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 23:19.47 | Freddy09 | ck knight is here! |
| 23:20.26 | ckknight | I have never left you, child |
| 23:20.49 | Freddy09 | ofc not |
| 23:20.55 | Freddy09 | but now you're here in person |
| 23:21.32 | ckknight | I suppose so |
| 23:21.36 | ckknight | how's it going? |
| 23:21.58 | Freddy09 | fine |
| 23:22.06 | Freddy09 | i think daeg and i bored aii though |
| 23:22.10 | ckknight | lazarenth: lua's pretty good for memory. It has a garbage collector and all |
| 23:22.31 | ckknight | lazarenth: arrays (which are just a certain way to use tables) expand/contract in size as you use em |
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| 23:26.00 | `Zypher | hey cuties |
| 23:26.16 | ckknight | howdy. |
| 23:27.49 | `Zypher | I got this cool script for TF2 |
| 23:27.53 | `Zypher | It makes me happy |
| 23:27.53 | `Zypher | :D |
| 23:31.27 | Aii | heading home |
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| 23:50.37 | Aiiane | back :) |
| 23:51.16 | haha | hi anyone have a program to extract the file names from the myp files? |
| 23:54.52 | Daegalus | wb |
| 23:54.54 | Daegalus | :P |
| 23:55.19 | Freddy09 | rofl |
