| 00:00.10 | netcurse | http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Warhammer_Online/PC/Warhammer_Online_Gameplay_Trailer/633106 |
| 00:00.22 | nicoli_s | oh yeah i forgot |
| 00:00.25 | nicoli_s | the trailer is badass |
| 00:06.09 | netcurse | Jedric |
| 00:06.14 | *** join/#waruidev Rober (n=rjfama@c-76-28-74-11.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 00:06.14 | Jedric | hi |
| 00:06.18 | Rober | yoooo |
| 00:06.31 | netcurse | maelstrom aka the guilds that did the rvr daoc movies? |
| 00:06.39 | Rober | this community grew a bit huh |
| 00:06.45 | netcurse | hey rober |
| 00:06.47 | Jedric | no, we were in WoW and AoC |
| 00:06.52 | Rober | hey |
| 00:06.52 | netcurse | ah ok |
| 00:07.13 | Jedric | one of the largest AoC guilds :) |
| 00:07.27 | Jedric | until everyone of our 300+ people left the game lol |
| 00:08.19 | ckknight | Rober: yep, I planted the seed and my followers have come to me |
| 00:08.22 | ckknight | come, join my flock, child |
| 00:08.33 | Rober | hahaha |
| 00:08.37 | ckknight | I will lead you to the way of righteousness |
| 00:08.40 | ckknight | ...of WAR addons |
| 00:08.51 | Rober | did i know you from before? |
| 00:08.54 | Rober | (have we met) |
| 00:08.54 | Rober | heh |
| 00:09.04 | ckknight | I make a bunch of WoW addons |
| 00:09.09 | ckknight | possibly where you know my name from |
| 00:09.19 | Rober | hmm ok |
| 00:09.20 | Aiiane | (ckk's a noob) |
| 00:09.22 | Rober | yeah probably some forum |
| 00:09.24 | ckknight | no u |
| 00:09.43 | ckknight | possible |
| 00:09.57 | Aiiane | how are those omega drivers working out pewpewarrows |
| 00:09.58 | ckknight | in any event, I'm here to keep the peace and foster the community |
| 00:10.09 | Rober | kewl |
| 00:10.13 | pewpewarrows | I just did a bit of cleanup and some ntune overclock |
| 00:10.18 | pewpewarrows | so we'll see how this all turns out |
| 00:11.37 | Jedric | ckknight |
| 00:11.43 | Jedric | make me an auto loot addon please :) |
| 00:11.43 | ckknight | yes, Jedric? |
| 00:11.47 | ckknight | you make it |
| 00:11.50 | ckknight | I'll give you a cookie. |
| 00:11.50 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 00:11.55 | Jedric | lol |
| 00:11.57 | pewpewarrows | cookies are delicious |
| 00:11.58 | Jedric | i dont know how :) |
| 00:12.02 | ckknight | note: cookie may or may not be fresh |
| 00:12.04 | pewpewarrows | then learn! |
| 00:12.07 | pewpewarrows | or you don't get to eat |
| 00:12.12 | pewpewarrows | lua or death! |
| 00:12.15 | Aiiane | dipping birdy + shift key |
| 00:12.19 | Aiiane | = autoloot addon |
| 00:12.26 | pewpewarrows | no way |
| 00:12.32 | Jedric | too much work imo |
| 00:12.41 | pewpewarrows | I already had that copyrighted for my wow bg afk addon |
| 00:16.42 | Jedric | so who wants to give me a 5 minute lesson on LUA scripting? :) |
| 00:16.45 | Ackis | hmmm do /script commands work? |
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| 00:17.37 | Aiiane | Jedric: do you have any programming experience or not |
| 00:17.45 | Aiiane | Ackis: yes, /script works to issue lua commands |
| 00:17.46 | Ackis | ahh didn't use towstring =/ |
| 00:17.54 | Jedric | i can edit php files...and i used to write CGI/Perl |
| 00:18.17 | Aiiane | Ackis - if you want to be able to see lua errors, do /debug and turn on logging (might have to toggle lua errors in the options button of the debug window) |
| 00:18.41 | Ackis | Aiiane: any native way to copy and paste? |
| 00:19.15 | nicoli_s | i can paste just fine to the chat window with ctrl-v |
| 00:19.25 | Aiiane | ~pil |
| 00:19.26 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 00:19.27 | ckknight | Jedric: have you checked out thewarwiki yet? |
| 00:19.30 | Aiiane | Jedric: ^--- |
| 00:19.54 | Aiiane | Ackis - copy/paste should work fine in the chat window |
| 00:20.09 | Aiiane | sometimes you have to hit the right arrow to make it move to the end properly if what you're pasting is larger than the editbox |
| 00:20.20 | Aiiane | (it pastes fine, just doesnt update the text scroll) |
| 00:20.21 | Jedric | hmm ill check it out |
| 00:20.23 | Ackis | lol: /script for i=1,100 do TargetPlayer(towstring("Yourname"));TargetPlayer(towstring("some dude beside you")) end |
| 00:20.28 | Ackis | got the achievement |
| 00:20.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:20.44 | Jedric | lol nice |
| 00:20.47 | Jedric | do 10,000 |
| 00:20.48 | ckknight | Ackis: turn it into an addon! |
| 00:20.55 | Ackis | ckknight: lol :P |
| 00:20.57 | netcurse | lol wtf with the french |
| 00:21.02 | Ackis | Ackis Achievement Cheater? :P |
| 00:21.03 | ckknight | down with frenchies! |
| 00:21.07 | ckknight | Ackis: sure |
| 00:21.25 | netcurse | they claim that we bought the rights to Mythic, to be able to release a database so quickly |
| 00:21.44 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 00:21.44 | Jedric | hahaha |
| 00:21.45 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.48 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 00:21.48 | netcurse | like this thread is 5 pages full of BS in french, time to register to that board and WTF people |
| 00:21.50 | ckknight | that's bullshit |
| 00:23.26 | Ackis | le marde! |
| 00:23.58 | netcurse | fuck i can't speak french properly anymore |
| 00:24.06 | netcurse | i need to think when i write now lol |
| 00:24.14 | Aiiane | ~fail netcurse |
| 00:24.15 | purl | netcurse: FAIL! |
| 00:24.16 | ckknight | omelette du fromage? |
| 00:24.24 | netcurse | de* |
| 00:24.28 | nicoli_s | is the not operator in lua ~ for everything? |
| 00:24.32 | ckknight | not according to dexter. |
| 00:24.41 | ckknight | nicoli_s: there's also "not" |
| 00:24.47 | nicoli_s | k |
| 00:24.48 | ckknight | there's "not" and "~=" |
| 00:24.52 | ckknight | "~" on its own is nothing |
| 00:25.12 | nicoli_s | kk, i knew about ~= wasm't sure if ~ and not were interchangable or not |
| 00:25.34 | ckknight | they aren't |
| 00:28.02 | pewpewarrows | well the ctds stopped |
| 00:28.09 | pewpewarrows | I still get the rvr lag hiccups |
| 00:28.26 | Frank349 | Is it possible to get information about a function programmatically in LUA? Like the Reflection API in Java (something simpler). |
| 00:28.52 | Frank349 | For example if I want to know the parameters of a function. |
| 00:29.58 | Aiiane | well, you can see what arguments it's expecting by trying to call it and looking at the error message you get ;) |
| 00:30.11 | Aiiane | (/debug, turn on logging, toggle on lua errors with the Options button) |
| 00:30.21 | Ackis | what's the console reloadui command? |
| 00:30.26 | Aiiane | Ackis: /reloadui |
| 00:30.28 | Aiiane | :P |
| 00:30.28 | Ackis | hot |
| 00:31.01 | Frank349 | Yeah, but it only shows the number of expected arguments. :/ |
| 00:31.15 | Aiiane | that's about it afaik Frank349 |
| 00:31.44 | netcurse | i owned the frenchies |
| 00:31.46 | netcurse | http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?p=16768283#post16768283 |
| 00:32.38 | ckknight | your language is different from mine, which confuses and angers me |
| 00:32.39 | Aiiane | netcurse: translation? :P |
| 00:33.39 | nicoli_s | Frenchies: "you cheated", netcurse: "nuhuh" |
| 00:33.50 | Aiiane | lol |
| 00:34.02 | Aiiane | yeah, i got the gist of it from computer translation :P |
| 00:34.04 | Addrar | eh some of them liked it and didn't mention cheating |
| 00:34.08 | netcurse | i said that 100% of the DB is filled by the add on and the curse client, we signed no deals, the European localization will come soon, if you have suggestions please post on WHA, and that i wish i could have logged with my 5 years old account on that forum but i can't =P |
| 00:34.28 | netcurse | the moderator seems to know as he mentioned me |
| 00:34.47 | netcurse | but i had a solid reputation in the french DAoC community |
| 00:34.56 | pewpewarrows | why would they be upset |
| 00:35.05 | pewpewarrows | you just provided a huge free service to the community |
| 00:35.07 | netcurse | multiple forum account banned, i was a good forum warrior ; ) |
| 00:35.30 | pewpewarrows | omg hax |
| 00:35.30 | nicoli_s | people love to bitch pewpew |
| 00:35.30 | Jedric | well at least you cant get banned on your own site :) |
| 00:35.51 | netcurse | i'm not a forum warrior anymore tho, i was 17 at that time! |
| 00:36.15 | Ackis | no one has made a joke about offering resistance and waiting for the surrender? |
| 00:36.26 | netcurse | nop |
| 00:36.40 | netcurse | we never do jokes like this one between french ppl |
| 00:36.44 | netcurse | =P |
| 00:36.45 | Aiiane | WTS French Rifle Cheap! Never used, dropped once. PST |
| 00:37.08 | Aiiane | ^^ |
| 00:37.27 | Jedric | you know the worse thing about AoC |
| 00:37.37 | Jedric | they turned my server into the official "french canadian" server |
| 00:38.10 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 00:38.17 | nicoli_s | the worst of the worst |
| 00:38.21 | Jedric | yep |
| 00:38.54 | pewpewarrows | nvm I ctd'ed again |
| 00:39.00 | pewpewarrows | I'm not doing rvr tonight |
| 00:39.26 | nicoli_s | so does CB run all the way up until OB? |
| 00:39.40 | pewpewarrows | as far as I can tell, yup |
| 00:41.05 | Addrar | got an email about a 'preview weekend' starting friday though |
| 00:42.35 | Ackis | is http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API complete, or will there be more api's? |
| 00:42.52 | nicoli_s | it's not 100% |
| 00:46.20 | DHS | achievementhelper: ackis * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): I don't have a clue what I'm doing but it's sure fun |
| 00:47.15 | ckknight | bah, this channel should have colors for DHS |
| 00:47.45 | Aiiane | Ackis: Those are only the global functions, and there might be a few missing |
| 00:47.58 | Aiiane | there are also a number of global objects with methods and whatnot |
| 00:48.07 | Aiiane | see http://war.pastey.net/93104 |
| 00:48.11 | Ackis | ckknight: hot pink for any of my commits please |
| 00:48.20 | ckknight | none for you! |
| 00:48.27 | Aiiane | nah Ackis |
| 00:48.30 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [-c] by ckknight |
| 00:48.30 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+c] by ChanServ |
| 00:48.41 | Aiiane | just set your irc client to highlight anything with "drycode" in pink |
| 00:48.44 | Aiiane | you'll be good |
| 00:49.01 | Ackis | :P |
| 00:50.44 | ckknight | that'd actually be pretty hilarious |
| 00:52.13 | Ackis | so I'm doing random stuff and not generating any errors... /debug w/ errors on |
| 00:52.45 | Aiiane | did you both toggle on lua errors, *and* turn on logging? |
| 00:53.07 | Aiiane | you have to actually click the button that says Logs (Off) to turn it on |
| 00:53.12 | Aiiane | so that it says Logs (On) |
| 00:53.28 | Ackis | ahh ok |
| 00:53.35 | Frank349 | I have found a "debug.getinfo" on LUA.org which takes a function's name as argument, but then I get an error in the Log window. It seems that debug = nil. Any idea? We don't have access to that? |
| 00:54.00 | ckknight | Frank349: you have to turn on the debug library |
| 00:54.27 | Aiiane | (click Options in the ui debugging window, check 'load lua debug library', then reloadui) |
| 00:55.17 | Aiiane | then you can do /script d(debug.getinfo(SOMETHING)) |
| 00:55.25 | Aiiane | and you'll get the output printed to the debug window |
| 00:55.41 | Frank349 | k thx |
| 00:56.03 | Aiiane | that doesnt give you a whole ton of useful info though without access to the sourcecode |
| 01:09.21 | netcurse | omg http://www.wardb.com/latestAdditions.aspx |
| 01:09.57 | netcurse | we ll be up to 6k items tonight |
| 01:11.50 | nicoli_s | i wonder if any of the other war db sites got up today? |
| 01:12.46 | netcurse | ya one |
| 01:13.09 | netcurse | but it's just a small site, |
| 01:13.17 | netcurse | warheap will launch tonight they say |
| 01:13.30 | nicoli_s | which one launched alreayd? |
| 01:13.49 | netcurse | just a small fansite, only has a item listing and some search filter, i don t have the url in my head |
| 01:14.04 | netcurse | why i am not sleeping? |
| 01:14.28 | Aii | because you are talking |
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| 01:17.06 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 01:17.21 | nicoli_s | pewpew, didthe omega drivers seem to help the CTD at all? |
| 01:17.41 | nicoli_s | sometimes i go hours without one, sometimes i log in to the game, turn around, and poof, gone |
| 01:28.28 | pewpewarrows | no they didn't really help |
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| 01:31.39 | ghostfish | wardb > all imo |
| 01:31.51 | ghostfish | just like wowhead kicked ass |
| 01:32.17 | ghostfish | though to be fair I haven't seen any other WAR sites yet |
| 01:34.56 | nicoli_s | there's another that's supposed to launch tonight |
| 01:35.09 | nicoli_s | though i think all they have is spells and maybe a career mastery calc |
| 01:39.28 | ghostfish | I've only seen the WarDB data miner |
| 01:39.46 | ghostfish | but I haven't exactly looked |
| 01:40.15 | Cyfir | would it, in theory, be possible to create an autoloot funcition by combining INTERACT_SHOW_LOOT and LootAllItems() ? |
| 01:40.27 | nicoli_s | yah |
| 01:43.42 | pewpewarrows | yeah it shouldn't be that hard at all |
| 01:44.23 | pewpewarrows | I don't know why that reminded me |
| 01:44.33 | pewpewarrows | but I need to work on getting an omni cc for this game |
| 01:44.37 | Aiiane | heh |
| 01:44.42 | Cyfir | ok, i feel smart for thinking of it, but now i just feel stupid for having no idea at all how to implement it. how do you use an event in the lua? |
| 01:44.52 | pewpewarrows | I guess it's all in the same vein of small tweaks |
| 01:45.08 | pewpewarrows | Cyfir, RegisterEvent |
| 01:45.08 | Aiiane | RegisterEventHandler("addonname", event, "handlerfunc") |
| 01:45.36 | pewpewarrows | so basically in your initizalize function, you'd register that event to some function |
| 01:45.49 | pewpewarrows | and then in that function just call the LootAllItems() |
| 01:45.54 | pewpewarrows | and you should be good to go |
| 01:45.55 | Cyfir | aaaaah |
| 01:46.26 | pewpewarrows | oh, and be sure to document that in thewarwiki |
| 01:46.27 | pewpewarrows | ^^ |
| 01:46.41 | Cyfir | I shall, assuming I can get it to work |
| 01:47.03 | pewpewarrows | if you have any trouble, you know where to ask |
| 01:47.18 | Jedric | i think we need a cool favicon.ico for thewarwiki.com :) |
| 01:47.52 | pewpewarrows | nicoli_s, have you considering making the W from the wardb logo into the favicon? |
| 01:48.02 | pewpewarrows | I keep getting wardb confused on my tab list for wha |
| 01:48.18 | Jedric | let me see if i can make one from the logo |
| 01:48.38 | Jedric | oh wait |
| 01:48.40 | Jedric | it seems there is one |
| 01:48.54 | Jedric | oh nope 404 error :) |
| 01:49.56 | Cyfir | are there any mandatory tags in your .mod file? |
| 01:50.21 | pewpewarrows | <Files /> |
| 01:50.41 | pewpewarrows | otherwise not that I know of |
| 01:50.54 | Cyfir | ty |
| 01:50.55 | Aiiane | well, aside from the <UiMod> one? :P |
| 01:51.02 | Aiiane | that's sort of a necessity :P |
| 01:51.12 | Cyfir | basically i wanna know if i can nuke <Dependencies> |
| 01:51.22 | nicoli_s | good idea pewpew, we'll probably do that, we just stole wha's from a while ago |
| 01:52.23 | Aiiane | Coded the autoloot addon :) |
| 01:52.32 | Aiiane | it's actually really short and simple |
| 01:52.37 | Cyfir | gah! |
| 01:52.40 | pewpewarrows | yeah, shouldn't be more than a few lines |
| 01:52.44 | Cyfir | * hates people |
| 01:52.49 | Aiiane | I did it as a learning thing cyfir :) |
| 01:52.49 | pewpewarrows | but don't let that discourage you Cyfir |
| 01:52.52 | Aiiane | you're welcome to write it yourself |
| 01:53.00 | Cyfir | well, i will. *pouts |
| 01:53.06 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 01:53.57 | nicoli_s | man, trying to collect tradeskill recipes with the addon is killing my bank roll |
| 01:54.11 | pewpewarrows | how so? |
| 01:54.23 | nicoli_s | every time i want to test i have to buy mats |
| 01:54.30 | pewpewarrows | oh yeah |
| 01:56.01 | pewpewarrows | does the profiler track recipes yet? |
| 01:56.30 | nicoli_s | that's what im working on now |
| 01:56.35 | nicoli_s | it's almost there for apothecary |
| 01:56.41 | pewpewarrows | ok cool |
| 01:57.13 | pewpewarrows | I know when I was working on mine, I just had it create a new recipe table entry based on a new/unique combination of mats |
| 01:57.29 | pewpewarrows | and then just add to existing ones over time |
| 01:57.48 | pewpewarrows | to track stability %s, chance of creating something, etc |
| 01:57.55 | nicoli_s | yah, tis what i'm doing, just trying to find a good way to hook it so i know when a apothecary spell is cast and when i get an item |
| 01:58.03 | pewpewarrows | right :) |
| 01:58.52 | Aiiane | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autoloot/ |
| 01:59.01 | Jedric | omg thank you! |
| 01:59.02 | Jedric | lol |
| 01:59.10 | Jedric | *click install* |
| 02:00.09 | Cyfir | aaaah |
| 02:00.15 | Cyfir | so i need two functions |
| 02:00.21 | Cyfir | one that "monitors" the event |
| 02:00.30 | Aiiane | Mhm |
| 02:00.30 | Cyfir | and one that calls the method |
| 02:00.38 | Cyfir | me understand! |
| 02:00.43 | Aiiane | RegisterEventHandler tells WAR to call a function when the event happens |
| 02:01.18 | Cyfir | so if you wanted a mod to monitor multiple events, they'd all need to be in your Initialize function? |
| 02:01.28 | Aiiane | you can register an event at any time |
| 02:01.38 | Aiiane | but a lot of the time you'll want to do so in Initialize yes |
| 02:01.48 | Aiiane | since that way you'll be watching for those events as soon as your mod is loaded |
| 02:01.49 | Cyfir | can you "unregister" an event? |
| 02:01.59 | Aiiane | yep |
| 02:02.02 | Aiiane | UnregisterEventHandler |
| 02:02.09 | Cyfir | Awesome |
| 02:02.33 | pewpewarrows | and when do you think you'd need to Unregister Cyfir ? |
| 02:02.50 | Cyfir | dynamic mod loading/unloading? |
| 02:02.55 | pewpewarrows | there ya go |
| 02:02.58 | pewpewarrows | :) |
| 02:03.01 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: you could have a user option to soft enable/disable your addon |
| 02:03.03 | Cyfir | ^_^ |
| 02:03.10 | Aiiane | if you wanted to, you could unreg your events when disabled :) |
| 02:03.14 | pewpewarrows | yeah Aiiane, it was an educational question |
| 02:03.18 | Aiiane | :P |
| 02:03.49 | Cyfir | can you add options to the User Interface menu item? The one where you get to the layout editor from? |
| 02:04.07 | Aiiane | Not sure. |
| 02:04.41 | lynerd | Has anyone created any sort of template to create a simple frame yet? |
| 02:04.41 | Cyfir | I'd almost think it'd have to be possible, since there's so much open space in that window |
| 02:05.46 | Aiiane | lynerd: define 'simple' |
| 02:05.52 | Cyfir | Aiine: as to your changelog, don't count on final. I'm scheming a way to link it to a modifier key. |
| 02:05.59 | Cyfir | ~_^ |
| 02:06.08 | Aiiane | heh Cyfir |
| 02:06.45 | lynerd | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:Addon_Format gives you the basic layout to create a mod file. is there something like that for a frame xml file? |
| 02:06.47 | Cyfir | so wait, did i just inspire the first functional mod on curseforge? |
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| 02:07.38 | Aiiane | possibly? :P |
| 02:07.43 | Possiblemente | Hi everyone. I was looking over the WAR API and I noticed a CreateWindow(). What does that do? |
| 02:07.54 | Jedric | it creates a window? :) |
| 02:07.57 | Aiiane | Possiblemente: Creates a window. :P |
| 02:08.02 | Aiiane | (From an XML definition) |
| 02:08.10 | Possiblemente | Is that like Frame:show in WoW API? |
| 02:08.20 | Aiiane | sort of, although it does more than just show it |
| 02:08.26 | Aiiane | it actually creates the window object |
| 02:09.28 | Possiblemente | Whaaaaaaat? That makes to much sense. This is LUA not walking. |
| 02:09.34 | Aiiane | lol |
| 02:09.48 | pewpewarrows | hey Cyfir, printing Hello World is serious business |
| 02:09.50 | Aiiane | Possiblemente, CreateWindow should actually have a documentation page on thewarwiki now :P |
| 02:09.53 | Cyfir | lol |
| 02:09.59 | Aiiane | http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/API:CreateWindow |
| 02:10.29 | Cyfir | aiiane: it does, but i can't find anything in there about playing with xml definitions. is there a "for dummies" page for that? |
| 02:10.33 | Possiblemente | I was just checking that not 10 minutes ago and it was not there. I guess patience is a virtue |
| 02:10.40 | Aiiane | Cyfir: working on it |
| 02:10.45 | Possiblemente | Also, I second Cyfir's question. |
| 02:10.50 | Aiiane | for now some guy wrote up a basic intro at http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/warui.php?m=start&s=xml |
| 02:10.55 | Cyfir | ty |
| 02:11.02 | Possiblemente | <3 |
| 02:11.03 | Aiiane | Going to try to get a more general guide available on-wiki soon |
| 02:11.14 | Aiiane | but feel free to start writing down your own notes |
| 02:11.26 | Possiblemente | your beautiful today. |
| 02:11.33 | Aiiane | even if they aren't a cohesive article, I can always work things together into one after the fact |
| 02:11.57 | Aiiane | a lot of the basic syntax is similar to WoW's XML format |
| 02:13.24 | Possiblemente | I'm new to it all so I was trying to get one of the tutorials from WoW and bring it over to Warhammer. The link above makes it even easier. |
| 02:14.27 | Aiiane | sounds great Possiblemente :) |
| 02:16.33 | Cyfir | mmm... autoloot makes me happy |
| 02:16.47 | Cyfir | window pops up just long enough to see what you looted |
| 02:17.10 | Cyfir | need to figure out if it does anything funky w/ PQ loot though |
| 02:18.05 | pewpewarrows | oh |
| 02:18.08 | pewpewarrows | good call |
| 02:18.31 | pewpewarrows | this is definitely why modifier keys would come in handy ^^ |
| 02:18.45 | Cyfir | exactly. i'm not stupid, just ignorant. vastly so. ^_^ |
| 02:19.30 | Cyfir | however there are events that fire, seemingly, for every press/release of a key |
| 02:19.50 | Cyfir | so I should be able to link a conditial to that event |
| 02:20.18 | Cyfir | just pretend i spell well. everyone will be happier that way.l |
| 02:20.18 | Jedric | there you go Aiine, i gave you some publicity |
| 02:23.22 | Aiiane | Cyfir: there's actually an INTERACT_SHOW_PQ_LOOT as well as the regular INTERACT_SHOW_LOOT |
| 02:23.50 | Cyfir | i saw that, but i don't know if INTERACT_SHOW_LOOT fires for *all* loot, pq loot included |
| 02:23.51 | Aiiane | so my guess is that they're independent events |
| 02:23.58 | Aiiane | because it has to show a different window |
| 02:24.05 | Aiiane | PQ loot can't be "LootAll"'d |
| 02:24.49 | pewpewarrows | only way to know for sure |
| 02:25.04 | pewpewarrows | is to just have those two events fire a message to your chat window |
| 02:25.12 | Aiiane | dont need that |
| 02:25.13 | pewpewarrows | and see what happens when you get pq loot |
| 02:25.22 | Aiiane | you can already turn on event dumping in the debug window |
| 02:25.29 | pewpewarrows | or that works |
| 02:26.11 | Aiiane | im right by a PQ atm but noone is doing it. lol |
| 02:26.44 | nicoli_s | well with pq loot, it has to bind to you, so you have to click first |
| 02:29.18 | nicoli_s | ok this is it, i can only afford one more round of mats, lets hope this works |
| 02:32.32 | pewpewarrows | what are you trying to do? |
| 02:32.56 | nicoli_s | record what goes into and comes out of an aopthecary recipe |
| 02:33.03 | pewpewarrows | ahh |
| 02:33.13 | pewpewarrows | oh, right, that can get expensive debugging >< |
| 02:34.07 | Aiiane | oh, by the way Jedric |
| 02:34.16 | nicoli_s | i'm so damn close, im gonna have to sell some gear for more mats :( |
| 02:34.16 | Aiiane | my name has two a's in it :) |
| 02:34.50 | Aiiane | lol nicoli_s |
| 02:34.58 | Aiiane | just go do a pvp quest >.> |
| 02:35.10 | Aiiane | takes like 5 mins and has best monetary reward in the game >.> |
| 02:35.24 | Possiblemente | Pffft, making sense is part of making addons. |
| 02:36.49 | nicoli_s | oh well, gf is home and she's pissed at me, this can wait :S |
| 02:37.00 | Aiiane | hehe |
| 02:37.03 | nicoli_s | cya tom everyone |
| 02:37.06 | Possiblemente | bye |
| 02:37.07 | Aiiane | bye nicoli ^^ |
| 02:37.18 | Aiiane | I support your priorities in life :D |
| 02:37.57 | Possiblemente | In the Lua part of the tutorial there is a line inside the "WindowRegisterEventHandler" which is "SystemData.Events.PLAYER_EXP_UPDATED" |
| 02:38.20 | Possiblemente | War wiki does not have any systemdata.events. How did this person know that there was a function that did this? |
| 02:39.17 | Aiiane | try typing this in your chat window: |
| 02:39.40 | Aiiane | ./script for k,v in pairs(SystemData.Events) do d(k) end |
| 02:39.49 | Aiiane | (with the debug window open and logging turned on) |
| 02:41.51 | Possiblemente | Sorry, it was hard trying to move my mouse so not to many messages show'd up |
| 02:42.10 | Possiblemente | It says: Chawwindow.OnEnterChatText() |
| 02:42.19 | Possiblemente | ChatWindow.OnKeyEnter() |
| 02:42.24 | Aiiane | oh |
| 02:42.27 | Possiblemente | ChatWindow.UpdateNewTextAlert() |
| 02:42.36 | Aiiane | turn off Function Calls Messages in options |
| 02:42.41 | Aiiane | then you wont get the green spam :) |
| 02:42.54 | Possiblemente | Yea I figured lol |
| 02:43.07 | Aiiane | you should get a bunch of yellow text when you run that |
| 02:43.10 | Aiiane | listing all of the events |
| 02:43.43 | Possiblemente | with or without the "." . Should I just copy paste it into the Chat window? |
| 02:44.05 | Possiblemente | It worked |
| 02:44.15 | Possiblemente | I just closed the debugger, open'd it again and it worked |
| 02:44.42 | Aiiane | with the ., that's just to keep my irc client from thinking its an irc command :P |
| 02:45.12 | Aiiane | d() is just a function that outputs debug messages to the log |
| 02:45.16 | Possiblemente | Yea I figured so I took it out the first time. Maybe my finger slipped.... |
| 02:45.23 | Aiiane | for k,v in X do .... end |
| 02:45.32 | Aiiane | runs the code ... for each key=>value pair in X |
| 02:45.39 | Aiiane | setting k = the key, and v = the value |
| 02:46.03 | Aiiane | er, for k,v in pairs(X) :) |
| 02:46.46 | Possiblemente | Yep. K, V, Rocket ships. Got it |
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| 03:04.44 | Possiblemente | Same kind of question: In the "function XpStatusWindow.UpdateXP()" used in the tutorial above the person used local "totalEarned = GameData.Player.Experience.curXpEarned;". How did he get the GameData part. Is that the same part as the system data part you showed me earlier? |
| 03:04.57 | Aiiane | similar, yes. |
| 03:05.13 | Aiiane | you can use a technique like the one I showed you, recursively, to discover all available objects |
| 03:07.22 | Possiblemente | alright thanks |
| 03:07.51 | Aiiane | http://war.pastey.net/93104 has the result of such a technique, although that pastey was specifically limited to functions |
| 03:08.05 | Aiiane | so it doesnt show plain variables, like events etc |
| 03:08.20 | Aiiane | also |
| 03:08.30 | Aiiane | in lua, the variable _G holds all global objects |
| 03:08.51 | Aiiane | so if you want to see all the top-level objects, do /script for k,v in pairs(_G) do d(k) end |
| 03:09.07 | Aiiane | you'll get something like this: http://war.pastey.net/93125 |
| 03:09.19 | Cyfir | when building a frame in the .xml, can you make things like frame sizes into a variable, i.e. <size> <abspoint x=frmWidth y=frmHeight></size> ? |
| 03:09.21 | Aiiane | (except that I added the types :) |
| 03:09.29 | Aiiane | Cyfir: no. |
| 03:09.38 | Aiiane | you'd have to use WindowSetDimensions() to alter the size later. |
| 03:10.14 | Cyfir | can you leave <size> out and set them using WindowSetDimensions() during Initialize? |
| 03:10.23 | Aiiane | maybe |
| 03:10.29 | Aiiane | but I'd specified a default size anyways |
| 03:10.32 | Aiiane | *specify |
| 03:10.38 | Aiiane | there's no reason not to |
| 03:12.25 | Aiiane | it's sad when I have dual monitors and STILL want more screen real estate |
| 03:12.51 | Aiiane | anyone know a virtual desktop manager that works on windows and allows me to flip just one screen? :P |
| 03:13.17 | Cyfir | http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-command-center-six-screen-lcd-monitors.asp just grab one of those |
| 03:13.25 | Cyfir | get me one too while you're at it. ^_^ |
| 03:13.26 | Aiiane | haha |
| 03:13.33 | Aiiane | # New Low Web Price: $2,179.00 USD Big sale! $320 off! |
| 03:13.35 | Aiiane | yeah right |
| 03:13.53 | Cyfir | cheapo that's the 17" one |
| 03:13.58 | Aiiane | i dont think my video card could even drive that |
| 03:14.26 | Cyfir | go for the 24" widescreen - only 5,899! |
| 03:23.45 | Possiblemente | Alright so I took the code from the page you sent me and modified it. I launched up Warhammer and nothing happened. So I thought I just messed something up. I then took the exact code of the person, put it in a folder inside interface/addons, and it still doesent show up with anything |
| 03:25.26 | Frank349 | What function must I use to write something in a text file? Like a log file. There is TextLogCreate() in the API, but I don't understand how it works. |
| 03:25.27 | Aiiane | do /script WindowUtils.ToggleShowing("UiModWindow") |
| 03:25.31 | Aiiane | does it show up in the list? |
| 03:25.49 | Aiiane | Frank349: You can't write directly to text files from an addon. |
| 03:25.53 | Possiblemente | let me start up WAR again, one minute |
| 03:25.56 | Aiiane | TextLogCreate is for text logs ingame. |
| 03:27.43 | Possiblemente | all that shows up is the curse profiler |
| 03:27.54 | Possiblemente | I'll get to double checking the files.... |
| 03:27.56 | Aiiane | hm |
| 03:29.48 | Possiblemente | Of course, I didnt Copy Paste something right...My luck isint with me with scripting |
| 03:29.58 | Aiiane | Frank349 - if you're just trying to output some stuff for debugging purposes, though, the debug console's contents are always saved to logs\debug.log |
| 03:30.32 | Aiiane | actually, sorry, it's uilog.log |
| 03:30.42 | Aiiane | debug.log isnt actually the ui debug window, its something else |
| 03:34.09 | Frank349 | K, but for example isn't it possible to create an option menu for your addon and then save the user's choices somewhere? |
| 03:34.43 | Aiiane | yes, via SavedVariables |
| 03:36.02 | smcn | anyone want to take a stab at what "dirty" means? i'm seeing it used in a lot of variables, like GameData.Player.itemsDirty, GameData.Player.questsDirty... they're all boolean |
| 03:36.15 | Aiiane | BAM |
| 03:36.21 | Aiiane | ckknight, we have slash command functionality |
| 03:36.23 | Aiiane | or will soon |
| 03:36.35 | ckknight | oh? |
| 03:36.45 | Aiiane | I'm pretty sure I've got it figured out :) |
| 03:37.03 | ckknight | coolness |
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| 03:44.59 | Frank349 | Aiiane: My uilog.log is empty. I must save the logs manually? |
| 03:45.12 | Aiiane | you'll need to /reloadui |
| 03:45.23 | Aiiane | logs aren't written until the interface dumps out |
| 03:48.36 | Frank349 | And about saved variables. I just need to declare them in a file called "SavedVariables.lua"? |
| 03:49.17 | Aiiane | no, it's done in the mod file, I don't know the exact syntax offhand though |
| 03:50.22 | Frank349 | Ok, I'll find, they use them for the UI. |
| 03:51.38 | Aiiane | <SavedVariables> |
| 03:51.38 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.38 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.57 | Aiiane | as part of the mod file with a <UiMod></UiMod> |
| 03:53.39 | Frank349 | great thx |
| 03:56.52 | Possiblemente | Anyone know the difference between PLAYER_ABILITIY_TOGGLED and PLAYER_BEGIN_CAST? |
| 03:57.23 | Aiiane | pure guess, but ability toggled probably fires for things like stance changes. |
| 03:59.54 | Cyfir | relativePoint="bottomright" refers to the bottom right of the entire game window? |
| 04:00.08 | Aiiane | it refers to the bottom right of the parent frame |
| 04:00.17 | Aiiane | which may or may not be the root frame |
| 04:00.27 | Possiblemente | It is relative to the window your working with |
| 04:00.44 | Cyfir | if you don't have a parent frame specified, does it default to root frame? |
| 04:01.07 | Possiblemente | No, everything blows up and the universe implodes |
| 04:01.20 | Cyfir | right. brb, ending the world ^_^ |
| 04:01.24 | Possiblemente | also I think you can specify the root frame so its probably what you would do |
| 04:09.49 | smcn | is the xml for frames basically the same as wow? |
| 04:10.39 | Aiiane | sorta-kinda. |
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| 04:22.23 | Aiiane | okay, I have a working proof-of-concept mod for slash commands |
| 04:22.49 | lynerd | I think there is a bug where if your mod name starts with a letter before E than you can't call functions like ChatWindow.Print(towstring("Hello, World!")) in a OnLoad function. Your mod gets loaded before the EA defaults I think. |
| 04:23.04 | Aiiane | you need to set EA_ChatWindow as a dependency |
| 04:23.15 | Aiiane | so that it loads EA_ChatWindow before your mod |
| 04:23.22 | lynerd | oh ok |
| 04:23.34 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.34 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.34 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.22 | pewpewarrows | and as a reference |
| 04:24.26 | lynerd | Good info to know and thanks :) |
| 04:24.33 | pewpewarrows | all custom addons are loaded _after_ the default |
| 04:24.43 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: Not entirely true |
| 04:24.46 | pewpewarrows | so you don't have to worry about your addon being maybe loaded |
| 04:24.50 | pewpewarrows | really Aiiane ? |
| 04:25.03 | Aiiane | As lynerd says - there are times when it'll bug out |
| 04:25.11 | pewpewarrows | ahh |
| 04:25.17 | Aiiane | and not let you reference ChatWindow in your OnInitialize function |
| 04:25.24 | Aiiane | because it won't exist yet |
| 04:25.33 | Aiiane | which implies it's not always loading custom addons last |
| 04:25.49 | lynerd | yeah, if your mod name starts with a letter before E. |
| 04:26.01 | Aiiane | well, I actually had it happen with a mod that started with the letter S |
| 04:26.07 | Aiiane | so it doesn't seem to be just name-linked |
| 04:26.10 | Aiiane | (oddly enough) |
| 04:26.16 | pewpewarrows | bah |
| 04:26.32 | lynerd | oh well that is strange. I thought it was happening just because all their files are EA_blah blah blah |
| 04:26.49 | Jedric | is warhammeralliance down for anyone else? |
| 04:27.16 | smcn | so... no system time function? i've tried everything i could think of and scoured the function output pastey multiple times :/ hopefully i'm missing something |
| 04:27.16 | Jedric | and yes im good at interrupting and changing the subject :) |
| 04:27.20 | Aiiane | yes; I believe they said they might be going down for ~20 mins at some point to upgrade capacity |
| 04:27.31 | Jedric | ah ok |
| 04:27.53 | pewpewarrows | smcn, I haven't seen any capabilities other than tracking time yourself through the Update() |
| 04:29.28 | smcn | yeah i've thought about it, do you know how many times per second it triggers? |
| 04:29.41 | Aiiane | if it's like WoW's OnUpdate |
| 04:29.50 | Aiiane | it'll pass you the time elapsed since your OnUpdate was last called |
| 04:29.52 | Aiiane | as an argument |
| 04:29.56 | smcn | oh yeah, duh |
| 04:30.19 | Aiiane | (but I believe it's usually fired once per frame?) |
| 04:30.34 | Aiiane | graphics rendering frame, that is |
| 04:30.55 | smcn | yes |
| 04:33.24 | pewpewarrows | bah! |
| 04:33.37 | pewpewarrows | finally fixed a bug in my scrolling combat text |
| 04:33.41 | pewpewarrows | stupid typos |
| 04:33.51 | Jedric | raise your hand if you're working on an Omen type mod :) |
| 04:34.03 | Jedric | jk |
| 04:34.12 | Aiiane | eh. threat meters aren't really as important for WAR |
| 04:34.16 | Jedric | i know |
| 04:34.19 | Jedric | hence the joke |
| 04:34.25 | smcn | working on spell timers atm... definitely a way bigger undertaking than anything i've done in wow :P |
| 04:34.26 | pewpewarrows | I don't really see the need for them at all :P |
| 04:34.39 | Jedric | yeah...unless enemy players have threat :) |
| 04:34.43 | smcn | lol |
| 04:34.46 | pewpewarrows | and yeah smcn, I started doing that a while ago and stopped to do something simpler |
| 04:35.02 | Jedric | you've pissed player 1 off more than player 3...uh oh here comes player 3 in the hate meter |
| 04:35.43 | Jedric | player 2 cant stay alive long enough to get you, so he is at the bottom |
| 04:36.12 | Jedric | spell timers are nice |
| 04:36.14 | smcn | my biggest hurdle is going to be the bars, i haven't done anything like that in wow.. i could probably just fiddle with the unit frames to only show effects cast by the player but i tend to go overboard with these things :P |
| 04:36.31 | Jedric | so would being able to see what your close range enemies are casting on you |
| 04:37.22 | smcn | i meant buff/debuff timers :O |
| 04:37.27 | Jedric | ah |
| 04:37.44 | Jedric | buffs are hard to see in WAR |
| 04:38.28 | smcn | exactly :) as for enemy cast bar someone on wha forums pointed out that it's impossible with the current api |
| 04:38.39 | Jedric | oh |
| 04:38.47 | Jedric | ok how about bigger debuffs? |
| 04:38.57 | Jedric | maybe something that shows what the hell you cast on someone |
| 04:39.06 | Jedric | b/c i cant ever tell if a debuff is from me or someone else |
| 04:39.39 | smcn | yeah that's what i'm working on, basically a separate frame with bars showing the duration of your buffs/debuffs on your defensive/offensive targets |
| 04:39.44 | pewpewarrows | yeah buff/debuff timers for yourself and your target are really needed |
| 04:39.59 | pewpewarrows | and moving the damn buff icons away and making them larger and visible |
| 04:40.19 | Jedric | i'd like to see something in the middle of my screen saying in big letters this is what you have cast on your enemy and this is how long it has until it wears off |
| 04:40.46 | Jedric | well maybe not big letters |
| 04:40.48 | Jedric | but you get the idea :) |
| 04:41.03 | smcn | IMO a lot of icons in war are far too similar... in wow you can instantly tell what a buff/debuff is on the target just by the icon |
| 04:41.12 | Jedric | exactly |
| 04:42.14 | pewpewarrows | what's the default incoming damage color in war? |
| 04:42.15 | pewpewarrows | red? |
| 04:42.24 | Jedric | i believe so |
| 04:42.31 | pewpewarrows | splendid, another thing I broke |
| 04:42.52 | Jedric | what color is it now? lol |
| 04:45.12 | pewpewarrows | well it defaulted back to outgoing dmg numbers |
| 04:45.26 | pewpewarrows | so like normal hits show as white, ability as yellow |
| 04:45.55 | pewpewarrows | which is fine for the dmg you do to an enemy |
| 04:46.07 | pewpewarrows | but it's showing up as those colors for dmg dealt to you |
| 04:46.09 | pewpewarrows | bah |
| 04:55.33 | smcn | whoa. so yeah, adding EA_ChatWindow to my deps causes an error in ChatWindow.Initialize.. "attempt to index global 'LayoutEditor' (a nil value)" |
| 05:15.41 | Jedric | im starting to get withdrawls from no forums to read :( |
| 05:40.54 | DHS | libslash: aiiane * r5 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 05:40.54 | DHS | Working commit. Basic addon to register slash commands. |
| 05:40.55 | DHS | - LibSlash.RegisterSlashCmd(string, function) |
| 05:40.59 | DHS | - LibSlash.UnregisterSlashCmd(string) |
| 05:41.03 | DHS | - LibSlash.IsSlashCmdRegistered(string) |
| 05:42.17 | smcn | neat! |
| 05:44.21 | DHS | libslash: aiiane v1.0 * r6 : Working release. |
| 05:48.28 | Aiiane | bah, i screwed up the paths in the repo :/ |
| 05:48.32 | Aiiane | time to go fix that |
| 05:49.51 | DHS | libslash: aiiane * r7 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix paths :| |
| 05:50.32 | DHS | libslash: aiiane v1.0-release * r8 : Tagging with fixed file paths. |
| 05:51.01 | DHS | libslash: aiiane v1.0 * r9 : Messed up path. |
| 05:51.17 | Aiiane | god that gets noisy :S |
| 05:51.30 | Jedric | i know geez |
| 05:51.44 | Jedric | ./kill aiiane |
| 05:52.48 | Aiiane | at least I managed to get it all in before the packager started up again |
| 05:52.52 | Aiiane | so I don't have to remove any more files |
| 06:07.09 | Aiiane | yay |
| 06:07.17 | Aiiane | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/libslash/ |
| 06:07.22 | Aiiane | release package is built :) have fun |
| 06:07.42 | Jedric | i wont have fun until warhammeralliance is back up |
| 06:08.18 | Aiiane | ckknight: ping |
| 06:16.14 | netcurse | the hoster managed to screw up |
| 06:16.22 | Aiiane | heh |
| 06:16.27 | netcurse | site should only have been down for 20 minuetes :( |
| 06:16.29 | Aiiane | what a time for it, too :| |
| 06:19.26 | DHS | libslash: aiiane * r10 LibSlash.mod: |
| 06:19.26 | DHS | Bump to 1.1, let's make the addon name as WAR sees it match the addon name as we see it. |
| 06:20.34 | DHS | libslash: aiiane v1.1-release * r11 : |
| 06:20.34 | DHS | Releasing version with identical MOD and folder names for ease of use. |
| 06:21.03 | Aiiane | any idea how soon it's supposed to be back up netcurse? |
| 06:26.22 | DHS | zchatwindow: adalyn * c6d0aece29d7 /: Initial Commit |
| 06:31.14 | netcurse | i d say a few mins |
| 06:31.25 | Aiiane | :) |
| 06:31.28 | Aiiane | that's good to hear |
| 06:32.09 | netcurse | i hate to wake up and hear that the site has been down because the hoster managed to screw one CPU slot on the mother board |
| 06:32.19 | Aiiane | >.< |
| 06:32.24 | smcn | :( |
| 06:32.36 | netcurse | inept, even could have done the upgrade : ) |
| 06:32.40 | netcurse | me* |
| 06:33.06 | Aiiane | someone write an addon that uses LibSlash to make sure it works and im not just a looney o.o |
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| 06:41.10 | smcn | by george i think i've got it |
| 06:41.27 | Aiiane | hi lliane |
| 06:41.31 | mmotools|lliane | hi there |
| 06:41.36 | Aiiane | your name is sort of like mine o.O |
| 06:41.42 | Aiiane | but luckily not quite :P |
| 06:41.58 | mmotools|lliane | come from french book |
| 06:42.30 | mmotools|lliane | i was wondering how to get a new interface.myp |
| 06:42.40 | Aiiane | ...lol, nothing like being completely AFK from WAR and then suddenly gaining 645 renown |
| 06:42.51 | Aiiane | because your faction just took over the zone you're in |
| 06:43.29 | Aiiane | howso, mmotools|lliane? |
| 06:44.02 | mmotools|lliane | there's still some funny things in mine |
| 06:44.02 | mmotools|lliane | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.25 | Aiiane | it might very well still be there, lol |
| 06:44.38 | Aiiane | but you could always get rid of it and let the patcher redownload it |
| 06:45.12 | mmotools|lliane | that would be true if I had a closed beta or a american account |
| 06:46.47 | `Zypher | Aiiane: I can confirm LibSlash works |
| 06:46.52 | Aiiane | yay :) |
| 06:47.10 | `Zypher | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94228 |
| 06:50.01 | mmotools|lliane | I have no version since they split art in two parts ^^ |
| 06:51.23 | smcn | is there a way to obtain the default interface files? |
| 06:51.45 | mmotools|lliane | extract the archive content |
| 06:52.29 | Aiiane | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/ myp extractor |
| 06:53.15 | smcn | excellent, guess i should have asked 3 hours ago :D |
| 06:53.32 | mmotools|lliane | Currently demyp has three filters for finding dds, lua and xml files. |
| 06:53.34 | mmotools|lliane | ^^ |
| 06:54.14 | mmotools|lliane | UnMYP automaticaly finds dds texture files and give them dds extension |
| 06:54.36 | `Zypher | wheres chryso when you need him |
| 06:54.38 | `Zypher | :< |
| 06:55.52 | mmotools|lliane | oh great, you are the dev of this Aiiane? |
| 06:56.04 | Aiiane | of what, mmotools|lliane? |
| 06:56.09 | mmotools|lliane | demyp |
| 06:56.13 | Aiiane | no |
| 06:56.21 | mmotools|lliane | made a similar tool but with graphical frontend |
| 07:00.48 | Aiiane | I didn't write it, I just have a link to it :) |
| 07:01.16 | DHS | zchatwindow: adalyn * a0dd4da5a141 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added /rl as a slash command, thanks Aiiane |
| 07:01.41 | DHS | zchatwindow: adalyn v0.1 * v0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): (2 revisions total) |
| 07:01.41 | DHS | Added /rl as a slash command, thanks Aiiane |
| 07:01.42 | DHS | Initial Commit |
| 07:02.21 | Aiiane | Hmm. I wonder how we're going to handle dependencies for end users. |
| 07:02.35 | Aiiane | I'd *like* to encourage people to not use embedded libs. |
| 07:02.58 | Aiiane | But if we do that, then the Curse client, among other things, would need to support dependency checking. |
| 07:06.58 | mmotools|lliane | just make a port of a linux package system ^^ |
| 07:07.11 | DHS | zchatwindow: adalyn v0.1-release * v0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): (2 revisions total) |
| 07:07.11 | DHS | Added /rl as a slash command, thanks Aiiane |
| 07:07.11 | DHS | Initial Commit |
| 07:14.20 | smcn | demyp -i interface.myp works, but when i try to actually extract it crashes. any ideas? |
| 07:14.55 | Aiiane | this works for me: demyp interface.myp H:\interface_myp |
| 07:15.25 | smcn | there we go, thanks... probably could have tried it before :P |
| 07:16.13 | smcn | lol i thought wha was back up, turns out it's just a tab i've had open for hours :P |
| 07:16.13 | mmotools|lliane | if i could contact this guy so we could make a frontend together ^^ |
| 07:47.09 | smcn | popable="false" in the xml... is that basically the same as virtual="true" in wow xml terms? denotes a template? |
| 07:55.24 | Aiiane | hrm |
| 07:55.25 | Aiiane | dunno |
| 08:17.45 | SkyFlash | Aiiane grats to your addons ;) |
| 08:22.43 | Aiiane | What if I told you I also had a way to get rid of the gigantic speech bubbles and just replace them with text over the character's head? |
| 08:23.27 | SkyFlash | i'd say.. post it :P |
| 08:23.40 | SkyFlash | cause i need some addon code to learn from *g* |
| 08:24.02 | Aiiane | I'll post it tomorrow |
| 08:24.10 | Aiiane | when I can get it into a more useful state |
| 08:24.19 | Aiiane | right now I need to go to bed |
| 08:24.30 | SkyFlash | good night ;) |
| 08:24.37 | Aiiane | I already shouldn't be up this late :x |
| 08:24.38 | Aiiane | nini |
| 08:24.52 | Aiiane | oh and WHA is back up. |
| 08:25.06 | smcn | so statusbars are looking to be pretty well-supported in the xml and lua, god i can't wait to start testing >< |
| 08:30.00 | *** join/#waruidev Jedric (n=dustinsa@cpe-66-69-252-90.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 08:30.13 | Jedric | anyone know how to set a guild's tax? |
| 08:34.20 | SkyFlash | hmmmm |
| 08:34.29 | SkyFlash | demyp is not working on my computer |
| 08:34.42 | SkyFlash | anyone know why? there seems to be a problem with the assembler part |
| 08:34.50 | mmotools|lliane | amd? |
| 08:34.58 | SkyFlash | actually.. no |
| 08:35.04 | mmotools|lliane | what's your cpu? |
| 08:35.08 | SkyFlash | got a quadcore |
| 08:35.53 | SkyFlash | Q something.. 2.4x4 |
| 08:35.53 | mmotools|lliane | if it's asm |
| 08:35.54 | SkyFlash | well i tried to compile it myself |
| 08:36.05 | SkyFlash | but i cant cause the .asm part is not compiling |
| 08:36.09 | mmotools|lliane | could you give mine a try? |
| 08:36.19 | SkyFlash | your what? |
| 08:36.30 | mmotools|lliane | i have created an unmyp |
| 08:36.30 | SkyFlash | prog? |
| 08:36.34 | mmotools|lliane | y |
| 08:36.34 | SkyFlash | sure drop it |
| 08:37.44 | SkyFlash | that funny guy... the .asm code isnt in the zip |
| 08:37.45 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/UnMYP-20080820.zip |
| 08:37.55 | SkyFlash | and the exe crashes |
| 08:38.18 | mmotools|lliane | it's not the same look & feel than him |
| 08:38.33 | SkyFlash | well his exe is not working :P |
| 08:39.09 | SkyFlash | well your app is not working either rotfl |
| 08:39.33 | SkyFlash | what the hell... |
| 08:39.34 | mmotools|lliane | i recquire dotnet |
| 08:39.35 | mmotools|lliane | winforms sux |
| 08:39.46 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5 |
| 08:39.50 | SkyFlash | well i got a full .NET programming environment on this comp :P |
| 08:40.04 | mmotools|lliane | just a minute |
| 08:40.07 | SkyFlash | i got visual studio 2008 installed |
| 08:40.25 | SkyFlash | something about application configuration not working |
| 08:40.34 | SkyFlash | i never had that error message before actually |
| 08:41.01 | SkyFlash | souds like the registry is not setup or something :P |
| 08:41.03 | SkyFlash | sounds |
| 08:41.22 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/UnMYP-src-20080820.zip |
| 08:41.36 | mmotools|lliane | it's done on vs2005 |
| 08:41.44 | mmotools|lliane | i don't do any stuff with registry |
| 08:42.05 | mmotools|lliane | it both works on vista and xp |
| 08:42.48 | SkyFlash | you got a .manifest with that? |
| 08:43.29 | mmotools|lliane | i sent you the full directory |
| 08:44.14 | mmotools|lliane | you just need ManagedZLib.dll in the same directory |
| 08:44.49 | Jedric | hmm |
| 08:44.57 | Jedric | no one seems to know how to set the guild tax |
| 08:45.01 | Jedric | interesting... |
| 08:45.15 | netcurse | is wha fast for everyone |
| 08:45.16 | mmotools|lliane | nyi ! |
| 08:45.35 | Jedric | no...the replies need to be faster :) |
| 08:45.59 | Jedric | but the page loads pretty damn fast |
| 08:46.04 | netcurse | ok |
| 08:46.12 | Jedric | go you |
| 08:46.46 | SkyFlash | works fine out of the compiler |
| 08:47.02 | SkyFlash | you need to distribute it with a manifest file I think |
| 08:47.39 | netcurse | we have to take it down one more time |
| 08:48.02 | Jedric | noooooo |
| 08:48.19 | SkyFlash | take what down? |
| 08:48.25 | Jedric | warhammeralliance |
| 08:48.29 | netcurse | WHA |
| 08:48.39 | SkyFlash | eeck |
| 08:48.49 | Jedric | can we wait until someone replies to my topic? :) |
| 08:48.55 | netcurse | lol |
| 08:48.57 | Jedric | lol |
| 08:48.57 | mmotools|lliane | the manifest seems embedded |
| 08:50.03 | mmotools|lliane | maybe it's because i was in debug config but... |
| 08:50.10 | SkyFlash | na it isn't.. it uses the wrong DLLs on my comp |
| 08:50.19 | SkyFlash | you can just statically link it |
| 08:50.25 | SkyFlash | then the problem should be over |
| 08:51.04 | mmotools|lliane | how do I statically link it? |
| 08:51.09 | netcurse | should be back up in 15 20 minutes, last hardware upgrade ; ) |
| 08:51.44 | SkyFlash | change it in the project settings |
| 08:51.52 | SkyFlash | second need to see where it is |
| 08:52.01 | Jedric | ./wrists |
| 08:52.42 | netcurse | the hoster managed to break the mother board of our older server while installing 2 quad core cpus |
| 08:52.58 | Jedric | thats always nice |
| 08:53.01 | netcurse | so he gave us a new server, swapped the drive but forgot to put the quad cores in this one... |
| 08:53.14 | Jedric | who do you use for hosting? |
| 08:53.28 | Jedric | i could dig for it but its easier to just ask you :) |
| 08:53.32 | SkyFlash | i got it under general |
| 08:53.34 | netcurse | FortressITX, they have a good datacenter but the service sucks .. |
| 08:53.42 | Jedric | ah |
| 08:54.03 | Jedric | ive used 1and1 for about 4 years now and my server has gone down maybe once for 30 minutes |
| 08:54.03 | SkyFlash | project->properties->general->Use of MFC |
| 08:54.14 | Jedric | but their tech support is all based in india |
| 08:54.18 | netcurse | ah |
| 08:54.20 | SkyFlash | the reason your app crashes on my comp, is that I have VC9.0 DLLs |
| 08:54.31 | SkyFlash | and your app was using something else... VC8 or something |
| 08:54.32 | netcurse | well we have 22 servers and a complex hosting ;/ |
| 08:54.37 | Jedric | yeah |
| 08:54.37 | mmotools|lliane | so use MGC in a Static Library? |
| 08:54.40 | mmotools|lliane | MFC* |
| 08:54.55 | SkyFlash | i believe.. i am a C# coder mainly |
| 08:55.08 | SkyFlash | i stopped coding with C++ 5 years go :P |
| 08:55.22 | Jedric | for something like what you guys do i'd use rackspace...but they are damn expensive |
| 08:56.28 | netcurse | last quote from rackspace was 55k usd a month everything included, no money for that =P |
| 08:56.42 | SkyFlash | but your prog works fine now... no problems... i converted it to VC9.0 and its all good without manifest file |
| 08:56.59 | Jedric | exactly |
| 08:57.20 | Jedric | you'd have to be selling subscriptions to be able to afford that |
| 08:57.31 | SkyFlash | but if you distribute it to other people either static link it or use a manifest |
| 08:57.38 | netcurse | nice we start to have quite lot of PQ loots http://www.wardb.com/pubquest.aspx?id=33 |
| 08:58.02 | mmotools|lliane | tbh ... I couldn't test the program on more recent MYP than November 2007 |
| 08:58.13 | mmotools|lliane | so can't really distribute it atm |
| 08:58.35 | mmotools|lliane | I'll try to get in touch with demyp developper so we can merge our features |
| 08:58.37 | SkyFlash | well I just decoded the recent beta client |
| 08:58.44 | SkyFlash | so its like working lol |
| 08:59.09 | Jedric | i have a deciated root server that i actually need to downgrade |
| 08:59.10 | mmotools|lliane | I need the feature to retrieve a specific file |
| 08:59.29 | mmotools|lliane | but i don't wanna learn x86 |
| 08:59.29 | Jedric | 1990gb of bandwidth a month going to waste lol |
| 08:59.34 | SkyFlash | what really is needed is that the files have names :P |
| 08:59.49 | SkyFlash | are the names in the file even? |
| 08:59.57 | mmotools|lliane | no |
| 09:00.24 | mmotools|lliane | but that guy has been leaked the algortythm to retrieve the hash from the name |
| 09:00.26 | SkyFlash | that really sucks :P |
| 09:00.46 | mmotools|lliane | at least they have a fixed easy archive format... |
| 09:00.51 | SkyFlash | ya but the other way around... erm... |
| 09:01.01 | mmotools|lliane | I did the same for MATLAB archives... there is speccs, I spent more than 1 year and a half |
| 09:01.20 | mmotools|lliane | before they changed speccs... |
| 09:01.23 | SkyFlash | lol... |
| 09:01.47 | SkyFlash | well last thing i cracked was a serial protocol... i am not much into archives :P |
| 09:02.40 | mmotools|lliane | not really a challenge |
| 09:02.50 | mmotools|lliane | same format as Ultima Online: Kingdom Reborn |
| 09:03.03 | SkyFlash | ya i heard that... |
| 09:03.26 | SkyFlash | still, the lua data and the xml is kinda.. useless without names, due to data overload :P |
| 09:03.37 | SkyFlash | there are 630 files... |
| 09:03.53 | mmotools|lliane | found them |
| 09:03.54 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/wardev/doku.php?id=myp_interface_content |
| 09:04.18 | mmotools|lliane | well... it's more deduction than algorythm... |
| 09:04.53 | mmotools|lliane | depending on how the lua was loaded in the xml, the name of lua functions called in xml, and the name of lua functions in lua |
| 09:05.48 | mmotools|lliane | i hope you have syntaxic colouration on thewarwiki ^^ |
| 09:07.00 | SkyFlash | ya i had renamed quite a few files myself |
| 09:07.03 | Jedric | i think im going insane |
| 09:07.15 | SkyFlash | however, what i really need is a zip with already completely renamed files :P |
| 09:07.23 | mmotools|lliane | haha |
| 09:07.41 | mmotools|lliane | after ask/. , askmythic |
| 09:08.46 | mmotools|lliane | name of file doesn't really help |
| 09:09.04 | SkyFlash | well online doc is fine... however i like browsing and searching at home and offline |
| 09:09.12 | mmotools|lliane | when I'll get a recent interface.myp i'll release all functions code with a bot |
| 09:09.26 | mmotools|lliane | that's not a problem for me to make a html version |
| 09:10.05 | mmotools|lliane | I mean pure downloadable html |
| 09:10.23 | SkyFlash | ya that sounds great |
| 09:10.47 | SkyFlash | is the curse client supposed to work? |
| 09:10.58 | Jedric | works for me |
| 09:11.10 | SkyFlash | not for me... it doesnt see any warhammer addons |
| 09:11.15 | SkyFlash | plus, i cant install any |
| 09:11.22 | Jedric | install the new version on wardb.com |
| 09:11.22 | mmotools|lliane | top of sales this week in the US ... |
| 09:11.29 | SkyFlash | ya i did... |
| 09:11.33 | mmotools|lliane | 1# WoW: Battle Chest 2# The Sims 2 Double Deluxe3 # World of Warcraft |
| 09:11.36 | SkyFlash | thats the newest wardb version |
| 09:11.43 | SkyFlash | it works find for WOW |
| 09:11.49 | SkyFlash | just not for Warhammer... |
| 09:12.07 | mmotools|lliane | 6# Diablo, #7 W3, #8 WOW |
| 09:12.19 | Jedric | make sure you set the directory for WAR |
| 09:12.29 | SkyFlash | i did... its the warhammer main dir right? |
| 09:12.34 | SkyFlash | not the addons folder? |
| 09:12.38 | Jedric | right |
| 09:12.47 | SkyFlash | well the tab is there.. |
| 09:12.56 | SkyFlash | i click it, its all empty |
| 09:13.08 | SkyFlash | if i click some addon on curse, nothing happens |
| 09:13.14 | SkyFlash | i installed some addons manually |
| 09:13.17 | Jedric | click the curseprofiler |
| 09:13.19 | SkyFlash | they do not appear |
| 09:13.34 | SkyFlash | there is no curse profiler |
| 09:13.47 | SkyFlash | empty.. white... :P |
| 09:14.36 | Jedric | hmm my autoloot doesnt work |
| 09:14.36 | SkyFlash | also how do i get rid of the WOW part? |
| 09:14.53 | SkyFlash | damn lets move this to the curse channel |
| 09:15.02 | Jedric | whats the curse channel? |
| 09:15.31 | SkyFlash | i think curseforge |
| 09:15.35 | Jedric | ah |
| 09:15.50 | Jedric | i dont think it matters |
| 09:16.00 | Jedric | its the WAR part you're having problems with :) |
| 09:18.56 | Jedric | anyone else has a cat that twitches a lot while it sleeps? |
| 09:18.59 | Jedric | *have |
| 09:23.10 | mmotools|lliane | backstab him |
| 09:27.23 | Jedric | lol |
| 09:38.14 | SkyFlash | hm aiiane still here? |
| 09:40.28 | netcurse | she's sleeping, she live in cali =P |
| 09:40.33 | netcurse | 2h40 for her |
| 09:40.48 | Jedric | its 4:40am for me |
| 09:40.52 | mmotools|lliane | people shouldn't sleep the day games convention start |
| 09:40.55 | Jedric | im a night owl :) |
| 09:41.14 | netcurse | where do you live jedric |
| 09:41.23 | netcurse | what state |
| 09:41.36 | Jedric | Texas |
| 09:41.41 | netcurse | cool |
| 09:41.50 | netcurse | y'all good? |
| 09:41.53 | netcurse | =P |
| 09:41.56 | Jedric | lol |
| 09:42.59 | Jedric | anyone here good with vbulletin? |
| 09:44.51 | Jedric | netcurse, you arent? |
| 09:50.51 | netcurse | i can't say i'm good with it ;) |
| 09:50.57 | netcurse | but i have to run to the convention, talk to you later |
| 09:51.03 | Jedric | ah alright |
| 09:51.04 | Jedric | see ya |
| 10:16.19 | SkyFlash | hey... is there a list of warhammer tables that i can access via lua? |
| 10:16.44 | SkyFlash | or a list of classes? like... i need a healthbar, and i know there is a class for that ready.. but whats the name? :P |
| 10:19.14 | Jedric | should be on the wiki |
| 10:23.12 | SkyFlash | hm did not find it.. only functions |
| 10:23.31 | Jedric | im not a ui developer so i have no idea :) |
| 10:23.58 | SkyFlash | you can guess the class names from the functions of course |
| 10:24.28 | SkyFlash | StatusBarGetCurrentValue() will for example indicate there is a class named StatusBar :P |
| 10:24.55 | Jedric | yeah |
| 10:25.04 | Jedric | yay for common sense :) |
| 10:28.29 | Jedric | ok bed time for me |
| 10:28.30 | Jedric | goodnigh |
| 10:28.31 | Jedric | t |
| 10:41.54 | smcn | basic buff bar functionality complete, all that's left is polish! |
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| 10:51.43 | netcurse | mm is WHA loading for you guys |
| 10:52.38 | netcurse | i m not sure if it's my internet or the site being very slow |
| 11:01.14 | smcn | loading fine for me |
| 11:01.42 | netcurse | ok good |
| 11:02.07 | netcurse | the funny story is, the new hardware the hoster gave us doesn't support quad cores, so we have been down for 5 hours for nothing;| |
| 11:04.23 | smcn | brilliant! |
| 11:05.01 | SkyFlash | lol |
| 11:05.09 | SkyFlash | guys i got a problem... |
| 11:05.25 | SkyFlash | ok other question... any of you have unitframe code ready for me to see? |
| 11:05.39 | SkyFlash | what the hell is this for: |
| 11:05.43 | SkyFlash | <Sizes left="0" middle="50" right="0" /> |
| 11:05.44 | SkyFlash | <TexSlices> |
| 11:05.44 | SkyFlash | <Middle id="Player-Health" /> |
| 11:05.44 | SkyFlash | </TexSlices> |
| 11:07.57 | smcn | excellent question, and i haven't the foggiest |
| 11:08.10 | SkyFlash | i know it screws up the texture of my statusbar |
| 11:08.20 | SkyFlash | however.. i dont know what it does and how to correct it :P |
| 11:09.30 | SkyFlash | i suspect its the coordinate where it picks the graphic from the texture |
| 11:19.04 | SkyFlash | ya it is.. but i still dont understand it :P |
| 11:19.18 | SkyFlash | netcurse... didnt you work on unitframes? |
| 11:19.23 | SkyFlash | pls share your wisdom |
| 11:41.20 | mmotools|lliane | ping |
| 11:42.01 | smcn | pong |
| 11:43.00 | smcn | curseforge refuses to allow me to create a project :( |
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| 11:46.17 | mmotools|lliane | smcn: thanks, it works well |
| 11:46.30 | mmotools|lliane | there are many more file than in November |
| 11:48.20 | mmotools|lliane | 7041 instead of 3800 |
| 11:50.04 | rizzen | excellent, api! |
| 11:51.47 | smcn | why do i have 5 victory cries :o |
| 11:52.14 | mmotools|lliane | api incomming yeah! after i found the bot in my ftp |
| 11:54.42 | SkyFlash | where is the API? |
| 11:56.34 | SkyFlash | i am having just slight problems getting my statusbars to work |
| 11:56.55 | SkyFlash | the XML part is harder than the lua part |
| 11:58.30 | Kargor | keep in mind that the whole ui api is bugged |
| 11:58.33 | SkyFlash | did mythic release something about the LUA api? |
| 11:58.39 | SkyFlash | yeah i know its bugged |
| 11:58.41 | mmotools|lliane | there was a mistake in my extractor, it only extracted comp_length bytes instead of uncomp_length |
| 11:58.44 | SkyFlash | already noticed :P |
| 11:59.30 | Kargor | inf.fu-berlin.de/~rossbach/warhammer/ it is alpha, have no time to update it, but it should work |
| 12:00.37 | SkyFlash | no it doesnt :P |
| 12:00.44 | SkyFlash | the .asm is missing |
| 12:00.45 | mmotools|lliane | some problems with the asm part |
| 12:00.48 | Kargor | whats the problem ? |
| 12:01.36 | Kargor | i have not included the asm file |
| 12:01.42 | Kargor | due copyright reasons |
| 12:01.54 | mmotools|lliane | gpl rules |
| 12:02.12 | Kargor | that has nothing to do with gpl |
| 12:02.40 | Kargor | i mean this is an asm file, any clue why i used an asm file for the hash ? ;P |
| 12:02.50 | SkyFlash | yes i do... |
| 12:02.57 | SkyFlash | but my compiler does not work without it :P |
| 12:03.19 | mmotools|lliane | sure |
| 12:03.21 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/UnMYP-20080820-2.zip |
| 12:05.07 | Kargor | this extractor is quite slow |
| 12:05.28 | SkyFlash | maybe cause its not assembler *g* |
| 12:05.36 | mmotools|lliane | nothing about assembler |
| 12:05.41 | mmotools|lliane | it's managed code |
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| 12:06.03 | mmotools|lliane | the assembler part is only for the hash |
| 12:06.07 | mmotools|lliane | i have nothing about hash |
| 12:06.08 | Kargor | demyp is written in c++, uses the asm zlib |
| 12:06.36 | mmotools|lliane | the source is here http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/UnMYP-src-20080820-2.zip |
| 12:08.46 | mmotools|lliane | i haven't look in your source maybe you don't allocate memory on the fly that's why it's faster |
| 12:09.35 | Kargor | i am reallocating each time, the buffer for the decompression is not large enough |
| 12:09.41 | SkyFlash | maybe managed code is always slower than assembler :P |
| 12:09.57 | mmotools|lliane | the whole demyp tool isn't in assembler |
| 12:10.02 | mmotools|lliane | just the hash part |
| 12:10.11 | Kargor | wait i post the asm file |
| 12:10.12 | mmotools|lliane | but sure a managed fopen takes longer than a fopen :p |
| 12:10.15 | SkyFlash | yes.. which is like 99.9% of the cpu cycles used |
| 12:10.28 | Kargor | demyp does it like this |
| 12:10.36 | mmotools|lliane | i don't hash anyway |
| 12:11.06 | Kargor | it reads the whole myp content, store it in memory and then decompress each file |
| 12:11.14 | SkyFlash | anyway, your exe doesnt run on my computer |
| 12:11.25 | Kargor | the demypd ? |
| 12:11.30 | Kargor | demyp.exe should run |
| 12:11.50 | mmotools|lliane | i don't do the same way Kargor |
| 12:12.05 | mmotools|lliane | I read header first, then sub headers, then file headers, then files |
| 12:12.14 | mmotools|lliane | so I never have to malloc the 2GB for the file |
| 12:12.30 | Kargor | i dont malloc 2gv |
| 12:12.32 | Kargor | gb |
| 12:12.44 | mmotools|lliane | they reduced art.myp size maybe |
| 12:13.09 | mmotools|lliane | but if you store the whole myp content, it is large memory use |
| 12:13.23 | Kargor | if there is a 100 mb file in a myp, this would be the largest amount of memory allocated |
| 12:13.47 | mmotools|lliane | ok so you don't allocate the full myp |
| 12:13.48 | Kargor | i decompress all file in memory |
| 12:14.50 | Kargor | read compressed data -> decompress them in memory -> write them to the disk |
| 12:15.05 | SkyFlash | no demyp.exe crashes |
| 12:15.17 | mmotools|lliane | ok i do the same |
| 12:15.52 | Kargor | hmm what flags did you use sky ? |
| 12:15.53 | mmotools|lliane | maybe i have 2 more steps atm tbh |
| 12:15.59 | SkyFlash | "an unhandled win32 exception occured in demyp.exe[1252] |
| 12:16.04 | SkyFlash | none |
| 12:17.27 | SkyFlash | if i could compile it, i would be able to maybe debug it.. but the .asm is missing :P |
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| 12:18.31 | SkyFlash | anyone know how i can hide a XML ui element? |
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| 12:18.45 | SkyFlash | is had to declare something used as an background, but it shows on screen... |
| 12:18.50 | SkyFlash | thats weird |
| 12:18.50 | Kargor | WindowSetShowing(windowname, false) |
| 12:19.07 | SkyFlash | its not a window... it's a background |
| 12:19.20 | SkyFlash | <HorizontalResizeImage name="HG_StatusBarFilled" textureScale="2.0" texture="EA_HUD_01" slice="Player-Health"> |
| 12:19.58 | SkyFlash | i probably can hide it anyway... but why does it show up? |
| 12:20.00 | Kargor | whats the parent of this image ? |
| 12:20.15 | SkyFlash | just a basic window |
| 12:20.39 | SkyFlash | <StatusBar name="HG_Player1" layer="background" background="" foreground="HG_StatusBarFilled" reverseFill="false" interpolate="true"> |
| 12:20.44 | SkyFlash | here thats where I use it.. |
| 12:21.16 | SkyFlash | Mythic made it the same way... just it doesn't show up for them :P |
| 12:22.22 | CowBook | i haven't tried yet; does anyomn know how macros work (well? not at all? supar-limited?) |
| 12:23.04 | smcn | well, you can't cast spells in a macro |
| 12:23.09 | CowBook | ugh |
| 12:23.16 | CowBook | well, there goes that |
| 12:23.17 | SkyFlash | i cant hide the horizontalresizeimage... |
| 12:23.26 | SkyFlash | it says its not a window |
| 12:23.41 | SkyFlash | can I cast spells in lua code? |
| 12:23.43 | CowBook | i really want to overload one button or key with multiple spells |
| 12:23.48 | CowBook | a la wow |
| 12:24.04 | CowBook | my lvl 4 has too many spells already :D |
| 12:25.01 | Kargor | no you cant cast spells, the removed it in the start of beta 2.0 in december |
| 12:25.05 | Kargor | they |
| 12:25.24 | SkyFlash | so i cant create actionbars? |
| 12:25.32 | CowBook | heh |
| 12:25.35 | Kargor | sure you can |
| 12:25.44 | SkyFlash | well the actionbar will cast spells :P |
| 12:25.56 | CowBook | or will it ?! |
| 12:26.00 | Kargor | yes but you cant trigger them from lua code |
| 12:26.14 | CowBook | so the actionbar, is it just a bar? |
| 12:26.18 | SkyFlash | can i influence on whom they are cast? |
| 12:26.19 | CowBook | or an inactionbar? |
| 12:27.25 | Kargor | function MicActionBars.CreateSlot(id, bar, trigger) |
| 12:27.25 | Kargor | |
| 12:27.25 | Kargor | local slot = {}; |
| 12:27.25 | Kargor | |
| 12:27.25 | Kargor | slot.name = bar.name .. "Slot" .. id; |
| 12:27.26 | Kargor | slot.action = nil; |
| 12:27.28 | Kargor | CreateWindowFromTemplate(slot.name, this .. "Button", "Root"); |
| 12:27.30 | Kargor | -- bar.name); |
| 12:27.32 | Kargor | WindowSetId(slot.name, id + (WindowGetId(bar.name) - 1) * NUM_SLOTS); |
| 12:27.34 | Kargor | WindowSetGameActionTrigger(slot.name, trigger) |
| 12:27.36 | Kargor | return slot; |
| 12:27.38 | Kargor | end |
| 12:27.40 | Kargor | WindowSetGameActionTrigger |
| 12:27.44 | Kargor | that is function you need |
| 12:28.01 | CowBook | so the spell isn't defined in lua, it's a property of the item in that slot |
| 12:28.10 | SkyFlash | hmm.. there is no logic on which player it is cast |
| 12:28.16 | Kargor | you attach a trigger to an window |
| 12:28.24 | Kargor | the trigger is defined as |
| 12:28.25 | Kargor | mom |
| 12:29.13 | SkyFlash | then the question is more like... can i switch the target around quickly from code, hu? :P |
| 12:29.39 | Kargor | no |
| 12:30.05 | Kargor | you can only switch to target if you know that name |
| 12:30.12 | SkyFlash | that kinda makes programming a heal addon a futile attempt :P |
| 12:30.21 | Kargor | no no |
| 12:30.33 | Kargor | you can query the names from your group |
| 12:30.35 | SkyFlash | ah with name it works.. thats ok |
| 12:30.56 | SkyFlash | so... i need to attach the trigger... when it triggers move the target to that player |
| 12:31.00 | Kargor | you can not automate anythicn |
| 12:31.03 | Kargor | actionTrigger = SystemData.Settings.Keybindings.HOTBAR_1.id; |
| 12:31.11 | Kargor | this is the first action trigger |
| 12:31.17 | SkyFlash | ya |
| 12:31.39 | Kargor | and finaly you have to do this |
| 12:32.05 | SkyFlash | ya i don't need to automate, i just want to trigger actionbar slots on group members |
| 12:33.20 | Kargor | ok the above code was for registering keybindings to frames / windows |
| 12:33.22 | Kargor | WindowSetGameActionData(slot.name, action.type, action.id, L""); |
| 12:34.25 | mmotools|lliane | anyone from the wiki here? |
| 12:35.06 | Kargor | last but not least SetHotbarData(slotId, CursorSourceTranslation[Cursor.Data.Source], Cursor.Data.ObjectId); |
| 12:35.20 | mmotools|lliane | i have the list of 5048 api functions to add |
| 12:36.02 | Kargor | the problem is, i dont remember myself, what function is good for ^^ |
| 12:37.53 | SkyFlash | hm :P |
| 12:38.51 | SkyFlash | i have even problems to set the size of windows... whatever i set, the size is always the same.. really weird |
| 12:39.12 | Kargor | do you use anchors ? |
| 12:42.00 | SkyFlash | yes.. |
| 12:42.07 | SkyFlash | my top window... |
| 12:42.15 | SkyFlash | <Window name="Healgrid" inherits="EA_Window_DefaultFrame" movable="true"> |
| 12:42.16 | SkyFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.16 | SkyFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.16 | SkyFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.26 | Kargor | i reupped my demyp tool, can you try again, if the demyp.exe keeps crashing ? |
| 12:42.31 | SkyFlash | whatever i set as size, its always the same :P |
| 12:42.32 | Kargor | asm file is now included |
| 12:42.41 | SkyFlash | uh link again pls? |
| 12:42.58 | smcn | wtb project approval on WhinySpellTimers pst! |
| 12:42.58 | Kargor | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/download.php |
| 12:43.23 | Kargor | seems i have a problem with the zlib |
| 12:43.32 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API I hope it isn't too long |
| 12:43.39 | Kargor | getting link error from time to time |
| 12:44.40 | SkyFlash | ya that works |
| 12:45.18 | Kargor | k you can try demyp interface.myp x:\outputfolder |
| 12:45.22 | SkyFlash | but what does it do? :P |
| 12:45.40 | Kargor | it is a shell programm ^^ |
| 12:46.07 | SkyFlash | lol ya thx i know |
| 12:46.20 | SkyFlash | but why does it rename the files to weird hash names? |
| 12:46.42 | Kargor | cause i dont have a dictionary |
| 12:46.47 | Kargor | do you have one ? |
| 12:47.16 | mmotools|lliane | i'll steal one at Games Convention saturday |
| 12:47.28 | SkyFlash | hm... |
| 12:47.45 | smcn | i've got a webster's in the bookcase next to me... :o |
| 12:48.22 | Kargor | try: demyp -s data.myp data/gamedata/abilitie |
| 12:48.22 | Kargor | s.csv |
| 12:48.25 | mmotools|lliane | i'm not sue EA_Window_DefaultFrame.lua is in |
| 12:48.58 | mmotools|lliane | let's just bruteforce those 40 chars long filenames... |
| 12:49.10 | mmotools|lliane | should be done around 2042 |
| 12:49.14 | Kargor | k that would be 40^255 |
| 12:49.22 | SkyFlash | you dont have too.... most of the names are known |
| 12:49.36 | Kargor | i know |
| 12:49.43 | SkyFlash | you can extract the file names from the lua files and the xml files |
| 12:50.03 | mmotools|lliane | yes |
| 12:50.17 | Kargor | in beta 1 there werent any hashes, so you had the real names ... problem i dont have beta 1 myps ;P |
| 12:50.40 | ghostfish | what the fuck |
| 12:50.42 | mmotools|lliane | there has been many changes in interface mid-september anyway |
| 12:50.58 | ghostfish | over 65k on one of the war servers it says... |
| 12:51.21 | Kargor | german server is about 400 people only at prime time ^^ |
| 12:51.43 | ghostfish | there can't actually be 65k on that server |
| 12:51.44 | SkyFlash | yup |
| 12:52.01 | Kargor | btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQz1InYoms0 my old beta ui |
| 12:52.10 | SkyFlash | still no one here that has unitframe sample code? |
| 12:52.27 | Kargor | mythic unitframes sucks |
| 12:53.04 | mmotools|lliane | 65k lol haha |
| 12:53.13 | SkyFlash | yes thats why i need sample code... |
| 12:53.15 | SkyFlash | :P |
| 12:53.34 | *** join/#waruidev Deron (n=gundecow@84-217-44-222.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 12:53.38 | mmotools|lliane | I wish I could host a 65k users irc server ^^ |
| 12:53.51 | Deron | Hello |
| 12:54.11 | SkyFlash | ok.. this list in the warwiki does not make sense anymore |
| 12:54.20 | SkyFlash | it needs to be sorted into classes |
| 12:54.27 | mmotools|lliane | ok |
| 12:54.34 | mmotools|lliane | sure |
| 12:54.45 | mmotools|lliane | I removed the local which you can't access ^^ |
| 12:54.54 | SkyFlash | rotfl |
| 12:58.39 | mmotools|lliane | generating individual pages ^^ |
| 13:00.09 | mmotools|lliane | do you know if i can only copy-paste the file somewhere to get them into the wiki |
| 13:00.24 | Kargor | illiane you have to speed up your unmyp tool ;P |
| 13:00.41 | mmotools|lliane | beh |
| 13:00.47 | mmotools|lliane | it's managed mate |
| 13:00.51 | CowBook | they need an "assist pet" binding |
| 13:01.55 | mmotools|lliane | ok I have the code of 4595 functions |
| 13:02.29 | mmotools|lliane | should i do a bot to put them on thewarwiki lol ^^ |
| 13:02.31 | Kargor | 4595 ? which functions did you count ? |
| 13:02.41 | mmotools|lliane | all non-local functions |
| 13:03.00 | Kargor | i would not use them |
| 13:04.25 | mmotools|lliane | "Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections." |
| 13:04.56 | *** join/#waruidev Chryso (n=dtc@88-122-27-58.rev.libertysurf.net) |
| 13:04.59 | Chryso | heya all |
| 13:05.11 | Chryso | Kaelten ain't round :( |
| 13:05.22 | mmotools|lliane | so any warwiki admin in here? |
| 13:05.58 | *** join/#waruidev netcurse (n=chatzill@wlan-gw.primacom.net) |
| 13:06.03 | Chryso | plop netcurse :) |
| 13:07.57 | mmotools|lliane | you are french btw Chryso no? |
| 13:08.38 | Chryso | yes i am |
| 13:08.40 | Chryso | why ? |
| 13:08.53 | Chryso | my english is so bad that everyone knows i am french ^^ ? |
| 13:08.55 | mmotools|lliane | moi aussi |
| 13:09.43 | *** join/#waruidev pewpewarrows (n=pewpewar@h-67-100-240-252.mclnva23.covad.net) |
| 13:10.40 | Chryso | hehe nice :) |
| 13:10.46 | Chryso | lots of french around then |
| 13:11.02 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/war_lua/wiki/ |
| 13:11.11 | mmotools|lliane | pewpew |
| 13:11.16 | *** join/#waruidev Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 13:11.35 | mmotools|lliane | it's only wiki code ready to be imported |
| 13:11.46 | Chryso | nice |
| 13:11.52 | Chryso | hey Kaelten :) |
| 13:11.55 | mmotools|lliane | formated like your pattern |
| 13:11.57 | Kargor | why did you import all non local functions ? |
| 13:12.08 | pewpewarrows | hot damn mmotools|lliane nice work! |
| 13:12.19 | mmotools|lliane | i only imported non local |
| 13:12.27 | mmotools|lliane | because local are local |
| 13:13.19 | Chryso | mmotools|lliane, you used a parser too ^^ ? |
| 13:13.21 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 13:13.26 | mmotools|lliane | yes did mine |
| 13:13.34 | Chryso | Who goes to GC around here ? |
| 13:13.44 | mmotools|lliane | i do saturday+sunday for work |
| 13:13.59 | Chryso | mmotools|lliane, from scratch or you used a parser generator ? |
| 13:14.02 | mmotools|lliane | wow arena replayer to present |
| 13:14.07 | mmotools|lliane | from scratch |
| 13:14.27 | *** join/#waruidev Frank349 (n=frank349@adsl-89-217-214-46.adslplus.ch) |
| 13:14.43 | pewpewarrows | morning Kaelten |
| 13:14.49 | Chryso | nice, studied languages at school ^^ ? |
| 13:14.58 | mmotools|lliane | C/C++ |
| 13:15.04 | mmotools|lliane | i'm in epita you may know it |
| 13:15.12 | Chryso | i meant languages as a subject |
| 13:15.18 | Chryso | like natural languages and stuff |
| 13:15.27 | mmotools|lliane | not yet |
| 13:15.32 | Chryso | Modele formelle pour l informatique |
| 13:15.35 | Chryso | ou un truc du genre :) |
| 13:15.37 | mmotools|lliane | pas encore |
| 13:15.48 | Chryso | nice doing a parser on your own then ^^ |
| 13:15.49 | mmotools|lliane | je viens de finir ma prépa intégrée |
| 13:15.53 | Chryso | used antlr for mine :) |
| 13:16.03 | pewpewarrows | so how did WHA hold up yesterday? |
| 13:16.06 | mmotools|lliane | oh ben les expressions régulières c'est pas compliqué ^^ |
| 13:16.28 | mmotools|lliane | pewpewarrows: apparently they had a problem with a quadcore they tried to set on a non compatible motherboard |
| 13:16.49 | Chryso | lol, ok :) pas le meme principe tout a fait que le mien ^^ |
| 13:16.51 | mmotools|lliane | Chryso: faudra me dire si vous etes capables d'importer comme cela les données sinon je ferais un bot |
| 13:17.06 | Chryso | faut demander a netcurse, je boss pas pour curse |
| 13:17.26 | Chryso | c est juste que ce que tu as genere en mode wiki, je l ai en mode xml |
| 13:17.34 | Chryso | par contre, je te conseille de supprimer le code des fonctions |
| 13:17.41 | Chryso | sinon ca peut faire mal coté copyright |
| 13:17.51 | mmotools|lliane | de? |
| 13:17.58 | Chryso | le code est protege |
| 13:18.08 | Chryso | et je pense pas que EA accepte de le voir trainer sur le net comme ca :) |
| 13:18.24 | Kaelten | pewpewarrows: became cpu bottlenecked |
| 13:18.26 | Chryso | french invaded the chan :) good french community i guess :) |
| 13:18.27 | Kaelten | but we're going to fix that |
| 13:18.31 | Chryso | NDA was released ? |
| 13:18.34 | *** join/#waruidev Cyfir (n=Cyfir@ip72-211-172-230.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 13:18.36 | mmotools|lliane | oui |
| 13:18.40 | Chryso | Kaelten, mind if i msg you ? |
| 13:18.42 | mmotools|lliane | depuis hier |
| 13:18.57 | Kaelten | I'm not picky about it like some people are |
| 13:18.58 | mmotools|lliane | ea ils ont intêret a ce que y'ait des développeurs d'addons |
| 13:19.13 | Chryso | j ai acces 2h au net ajd, apres c est lundi ^^ |
| 13:19.20 | Chryso | mmotools|lliane, english is better hehe :) |
| 13:19.32 | Chryso | yeah they invited some mmod dev last week i think |
| 13:19.34 | Chryso | in the us beta... |
| 13:19.53 | Chryso | hsould go write that rant on the french forum about how we are not considered for it... |
| 13:20.00 | mmotools|lliane | ... |
| 13:20.14 | mmotools|lliane | as if goa had any power |
| 13:20.28 | Chryso | :( |
| 13:20.30 | mmotools|lliane | it's like wow-europe compared to blizzard us :p |
| 13:21.21 | pewpewarrows | lol @ warheap.com's mastery calculator |
| 13:22.09 | Cyfir | I just *know* someone is dying to repost that link to the xpstatus example addon from last night. right? ^_^ |
| 13:22.17 | mmotools|lliane | curse had such a huge advantage on everyone else on this platform |
| 13:22.23 | Kargor | that was my addon |
| 13:22.34 | Kargor | thanks for stealing it from my website :> |
| 13:22.43 | pewpewarrows | that wasn't us |
| 13:22.48 | Cyfir | I didn't steal anything, but thanks? |
| 13:22.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 13:23.02 | pewpewarrows | heya ckknight |
| 13:23.13 | Cyfir | heyas |
| 13:23.16 | ckknight | hey Kargor |
| 13:23.29 | Kargor | hi ck |
| 13:23.47 | mmotools|lliane | hey ckknight |
| 13:23.48 | Kargor | got my addons ? |
| 13:23.58 | netcurse | woot lots of new people |
| 13:24.01 | ckknight | yea, very interesting, Kargor |
| 13:24.10 | ckknight | just woke up :-P |
| 13:25.07 | Kargor | the problem is, most of them should not work any longer, last update was in may |
| 13:25.27 | Kargor | and mythic is changing there api with every build |
| 13:25.43 | ckknight | Kargor: I'll be playing around with it this morning |
| 13:25.44 | Frank349 | Cyfir: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/warui.php |
| 13:26.00 | Frank349 | This one? |
| 13:26.04 | Cyfir | yes, ty. |
| 13:27.09 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 13:27.31 | Chryso | shitty :) but that is normal ^^ |
| 13:27.32 | Chryso | u? |
| 13:27.33 | Cyfir | I have a hard day of, ahem, "work" ahead of me and I'm looking forward to my new reading material ^_^ |
| 13:28.00 | pewpewarrows | pretty good ckknight |
| 13:28.10 | smcn | oh is it day already? |
| 13:28.16 | pewpewarrows | I almost have the wow floating damage number algorithm working into my mod |
| 13:28.31 | ckknight | work harder, pewpewarrows! |
| 13:28.35 | pewpewarrows | I know! |
| 13:28.55 | Kargor | what algorithm ? ^^ |
| 13:28.56 | smcn | i got my bufftimers working, project is on curseforge awaiting approval... *cough* |
| 13:29.53 | pewpewarrows | Kargor, do you know the existing in-game combat text? |
| 13:30.09 | *** join/#waruidev CowBook (n=cowboy@static-68-236-120-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:30.09 | pewpewarrows | well, it's very buggy and unresponsive imo |
| 13:30.10 | Kargor | i have replaced it with my own |
| 13:30.17 | *** join/#waruidev CowBook_ (n=cowboy@static-68-236-120-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:30.22 | ckknight | smcn: done |
| 13:30.29 | smcn | wewt! |
| 13:30.32 | pewpewarrows | yeah that's what I'm doing with a full scrolling combat text addon |
| 13:30.51 | pewpewarrows | and the first part is completely replacing outgoing damage with how it looked in wow |
| 13:30.56 | *** part/#waruidev Cyfir (n=Cyfir@ip72-211-172-230.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 13:31.09 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/wiki/ <= changed address |
| 13:31.14 | pewpewarrows | which I'm much more used to and feel gives a lot more "response" to the player that their skills are connecting |
| 13:31.20 | Kargor | i had used the layout auf mics sct |
| 13:32.35 | Kargor | the funny part of mythic sct is, they changed it several times, and every sct was bugged ;P |
| 13:32.58 | pewpewarrows | I prefer my damage text to be literally over the head of my target as it moves about on-screen, and pop around with crits, etc |
| 13:33.10 | mmotools|lliane | Kargor: you played aoc? their combat log was bugged |
| 13:33.21 | pewpewarrows | I never really liked the static, scrolling, one place on-screen version |
| 13:33.22 | CowBook_ | hrmn |
| 13:33.26 | mmotools|lliane | you had 4k hp, took 2 times 1k dmg in combat log and you were dead |
| 13:33.28 | Kargor | no i did not played aoc |
| 13:33.32 | CowBook_ | is the no way to target your pet? |
| 13:33.35 | CowBook_ | their |
| 13:33.38 | CowBook_ | for squig herder |
| 13:33.43 | CowBook_ | lol there |
| 13:33.46 | CowBook_ | man i need sleep |
| 13:34.06 | CowBook_ | so, er, is there no way for a squig herder to target his pet? |
| 13:34.40 | ckknight | Aiiane/Kaelten: ping |
| 13:34.46 | Kargor | can you target your pet via slash command ? |
| 13:34.50 | Kaelten | ? |
| 13:35.02 | CowBook_ | i haven't seen a listing of /commands |
| 13:35.04 | smcn | doesn't look like it |
| 13:35.08 | Kaelten | ckknight: pong |
| 13:35.20 | CowBook_ | but there is no keybinding for any pet or pet target assist or anything |
| 13:35.29 | smcn | i believe atm you can only target players via API |
| 13:35.34 | smcn | (including macros) |
| 13:35.34 | CowBook_ | and i didn't see anything that seemed useful in the API list |
| 13:35.42 | CowBook_ | that is teh sux |
| 13:35.51 | smcn | there is a /target command but it only works for players |
| 13:35.58 | CowBook_ | right |
| 13:35.59 | Kargor | i dont know the new api, but in the old api mom ... i look up the code |
| 13:36.05 | smcn | which is basically what i just said |
| 13:36.45 | CowBook_ | well, hopefully they'll find a way to give pet classes a little love |
| 13:37.29 | Kargor | TargetPlayer( GroupWindow.groupData[index].name ) |
| 13:37.42 | Kargor | thats from the group window |
| 13:38.09 | CowBook_ | right |
| 13:38.14 | CowBook_ | hmmn |
| 13:38.34 | netcurse | i have a joke |
| 13:38.47 | CowBook_ | does the pet bar ui have a function assigned to it? |
| 13:39.28 | mmotools|lliane | yes |
| 13:39.56 | mmotools|lliane | PlayerPetUnitFrame.* |
| 13:40.26 | CowBook_ | where are the main UI files so i can browse through them? |
| 13:40.39 | CowBook_ | interface.myp ? |
| 13:40.43 | mmotools|lliane | yes |
| 13:40.43 | Kargor | yes |
| 13:40.46 | netcurse | we asked our hoster to upgrade WHA to 2 quad cores CPUs, they took it down, managed to break the mother board while doing the switch, they swapped disk disk on a new hardware, put back the site online and then realized they forgot to put the quad cores, put back the site offline, realized this motherboard was not working with quadcores, put back the site online with the same type of... |
| 13:40.48 | netcurse | ...hardware it was to start with= 5 hours downtime for nothing |
| 13:41.39 | CowBook_ | is there a tool for extracting assets out of myp files? |
| 13:41.53 | mmotools|lliane | wait a minute i'll send you the file |
| 13:42.00 | Kargor | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/download.php |
| 13:42.08 | CowBook_ | thx |
| 13:42.23 | Kargor | it is alpha, keep that in mind |
| 13:42.27 | CowBook_ | ok |
| 13:42.41 | pewpewarrows | bah netcurse, that sucks |
| 13:42.52 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.mmo-tools.com/files/UnMYP-20080820-2.zip it is alpha too |
| 13:43.01 | Kargor | in the bin directory the is a file demyp.exe, it is a shell programm |
| 13:43.02 | CowBook_ | different tools? |
| 13:43.19 | Kargor | demyp interface.myp x:\outfolder |
| 13:43.34 | mmotools|lliane | yes different tools |
| 13:43.43 | CowBook_ | of course both are windows .exe files, so i need to fire up a vm to deal with ths |
| 13:43.44 | mmotools|lliane | mine's graphical and slower |
| 13:43.46 | CowBook_ | :P |
| 13:45.04 | smcn | QQ maintenance |
| 13:45.38 | Kargor | lliane what is your filter order in your tool ? dds lua xml ? |
| 13:45.49 | mmotools|lliane | yes |
| 13:45.59 | SkyFlash | could just everyone drop their halfdone addons on curseforge please :P this xml problem is driving me insane |
| 13:46.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 13:46.14 | Kargor | what xml problem ? |
| 13:46.23 | mmotools|lliane | dds xml lua |
| 13:46.36 | SkyFlash | i tell the window to be 500x500 and its size doesnt change |
| 13:46.45 | SkyFlash | its still the default size... which doesnt change |
| 13:46.59 | Kargor | can you post your xml file, if it is not to long ? |
| 13:47.01 | mmotools|lliane | Kargor: is there a problem with filters? |
| 13:47.07 | Kargor | no |
| 13:47.13 | SkyFlash | when i hover over it using the debug window, its just small |
| 13:47.44 | Kargor | i though that you filter in the following order: xml, lua, dds. than this would explain why your tool is about 4 times slower than mine |
| 13:48.35 | Kaelten | SkyFlash: http://warui.pastey.net/ |
| 13:48.37 | Kaelten | paste it there |
| 13:48.37 | SkyFlash | http://paste.bradleygill.com/index.php?paste_id=2550 |
| 13:48.43 | Kaelten | er waruidev.pastey.net |
| 13:48.48 | Kaelten | or that works |
| 13:48.50 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 13:48.52 | SkyFlash | oh k too late but i remember :P |
| 13:49.07 | mmotools|lliane | CowBook_: http://waruidev.pastey.net/94245 !! |
| 13:49.38 | mmotools|lliane | not sure this will help |
| 13:50.00 | SkyFlash | if you look at my outer container window, which is supposed to be 500x500... its not! |
| 13:50.18 | Kargor | the whole ui api has a problem |
| 13:50.26 | Kargor | and that are the anchors ^^ |
| 13:50.44 | CowBook_ | yeah anchors should be able to be set for ui boxes to expand |
| 13:50.58 | SkyFlash | i removed them a few mins ago, didn't change anything |
| 13:50.59 | CowBook_ | mmotools|lliane: it doesn't look like there is any kind of target-on-click code there.. |
| 13:51.09 | CowBook_ | i wonder whee it's set |
| 13:51.53 | mmotools|lliane | it's in the xml tbh |
| 13:52.03 | CowBook_ | i'll see if i can extract stuf |
| 13:52.55 | Kargor | cow do you use the debugwindow ? |
| 13:53.05 | SkyFlash | the problem is... if the elements are outside the outer frame, it all goes to apeshit |
| 13:53.13 | SkyFlash | and for me... thats the case... |
| 13:53.21 | SkyFlash | and i cant expand the outer frame!!! |
| 13:54.07 | mmotools|lliane | i remember the times where debugwindow made the game crash ... |
| 13:54.17 | mmotools|lliane | like once every ten minutes |
| 13:54.49 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.45 | Kargor | another nice window is: /script WindowSetShowing("UiModWindow", true) |
| 13:56.46 | Kargor | the main problem is, if you turn logs on, the game becomes unplayable |
| 13:57.49 | CowBook_ | i can't get either of those myp apps to run in windows |
| 13:57.58 | CowBook_ | do i need to do something special with the dlls ? |
| 13:58.04 | mmotools|lliane | no |
| 13:58.20 | mmotools|lliane | for mine you just need to have .net framework redist installed |
| 13:58.25 | mmotools|lliane | + the dll in the same directory |
| 13:58.27 | CowBook_ | er |
| 13:58.34 | Kargor | my myp app isn not windowed |
| 13:58.37 | CowBook_ | which .NET? |
| 13:58.44 | CowBook_ | Kargor: it just doesn't run |
| 13:58.47 | mmotools|lliane | 2.0 |
| 13:58.49 | CowBook_ | ok |
| 13:58.55 | Kargor | hmm ? |
| 13:58.55 | mmotools|lliane | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5 |
| 13:59.41 | Kargor | the demypd.exe should not be able to execute unless you have visual studio installed, but the demyp.exe should be executable |
| 14:00.47 | CowBook_ | C:\Documents and Settings\Cowboy\Desktop\demyp\bin>demyp.exe The system cannot execute the specified program. |
| 14:01.05 | CowBook_ | oops that's obviously 2 lines |
| 14:01.33 | Kargor | woah i hate that error |
| 14:01.43 | CowBook_ | i dunno, i just unzipped it and tried to run it |
| 14:01.58 | mmotools|lliane | Kargor: he's on a vm. |
| 14:02.24 | Kargor | yes but the same problem also occurs without a vm |
| 14:02.28 | CowBook_ | but what's the difference? it's a vm with XPSP2 installed on it |
| 14:02.47 | Frank349 | Kargor: when I try to extract something, I get the following message: Archive successfully opened <2 blank lines> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. |
| 14:03.21 | Kargor | which switches did you use ? |
| 14:03.29 | Frank349 | the default one |
| 14:03.33 | Frank349 | -i work for example |
| 14:03.44 | Frank349 | but not -d |
| 14:03.47 | mmotools|lliane | CowBook_: here's the matching xml http://waruidev.pastey.net/94246 |
| 14:03.49 | Kargor | skip d |
| 14:04.01 | Kargor | just demyp interfache.myp x:\folder |
| 14:04.03 | Frank349 | Yes, I tried, but it doesn't change anything |
| 14:04.23 | mmotools|lliane | hey SkyFlash you should take a look too !! There is anchors |
| 14:04.41 | Frank349 | I'll try later on another system |
| 14:04.43 | smcn | Frank349: i had the same thing happen, then i specified a folder on the root drive and it worked |
| 14:05.01 | Frank349 | ok! |
| 14:06.32 | CowBook_ | mmotools|lliane: .NET 2.0 installed, and it still doesn't work.. is there something else that i need to do? |
| 14:06.42 | CowBook_ | like jiggle the handle? |
| 14:06.42 | mmotools|lliane | dunno |
| 14:07.04 | Kargor | frank can you post the command that make demyp crash ? |
| 14:07.27 | CowBook_ | mmotools|lliane: "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorract. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem" |
| 14:08.59 | mmotools|lliane | .manifest problem |
| 14:09.12 | CowBook_ | not sure quite what that means |
| 14:11.36 | Frank349 | Kargor: C:\Program Files\Warhammer Online\mft>..\demyp\bin\demyp.exe ..\mft.myp |
| 14:12.24 | Kargor | hmm ? von welchem ordern aus startest du ? |
| 14:12.32 | Frank349 | ? :O |
| 14:13.46 | CowBook_ | mmotools|lliane: well, i rebooted the vm, and it still doesn't work.. i installed the .NET package you linked me though |
| 14:13.52 | Kargor | you want to decompress the mft.myp ? |
| 14:14.08 | CowBook_ | i suppose i'm out of luck for now.. but it can wait, i'm in no rush |
| 14:14.28 | Frank349 | yeah, and I execute the program from a folder I called 'mft' |
| 14:14.57 | Kargor | oh lol ok, that was crashing the demyp.exe ? |
| 14:15.16 | mmotools|lliane | yes i need to find how to make a manifest |
| 14:15.25 | Frank349 | Yes, but it does the same thing with interface.myp |
| 14:15.34 | CowBook_ | ok |
| 14:15.43 | Frank349 | But I'll try smcn's solution |
| 14:16.08 | Kargor | can you copy the demyp.exe into the warhammer folder and then do: demyp interface.myp x:\outputfolder ? |
| 14:17.17 | Frank349 | Yes, it works |
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| 14:18.21 | Kargor | weird ... D:\Warhammer Online - Age of Reckoning\mft> ..\demyp.exe ..\mft.myp works for my |
| 14:18.32 | Kargor | me |
| 14:19.51 | Frank349 | yeah weird. I don't know |
| 14:20.46 | Kargor | the next statement after the blank 2 lines is: Creating Directories ... hmm i shoudl revamp the code ;P |
| 14:21.14 | nicoli_s | indeed |
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| 14:21.59 | mmotools|lliane | well i fail at porting my application :( |
| 14:22.12 | nicoli_s | hahha, oh man warheap's mastery calc blows ass |
| 14:23.22 | Kargor | cow i can upload the decompressed interface if you like, but i am discarding all dds files |
| 14:25.13 | nicoli_s | btw mmotools|lliane, i don't think it's legal for you to be basically hosting the contents of the interface.myp on your wiki |
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| 14:26.20 | mmotools|lliane | nicoli_s: in france it is |
| 14:27.27 | mmotools|lliane | decompiling for interoperability is legal |
| 14:27.50 | nicoli_s | i'm not talking about decompiling, i'm talkig about publiclly hosting someone else's code |
| 14:28.36 | SkyFlash | lol |
| 14:28.53 | SkyFlash | yeah it's not that legal :P |
| 14:29.49 | SkyFlash | isn't there like an UI beta someplace? |
| 14:29.50 | Kargor | http://inf.fu-berlin.de/~rossbach/warhammer/interface.rar @CowBook_ |
| 14:30.21 | SkyFlash | anyone here created a basic window and put some stuff in it and it worked? :P |
| 14:30.28 | Kargor | yes |
| 14:30.57 | SkyFlash | you did? |
| 14:31.01 | mmotools|lliane | no one had such concerns about wow lua files |
| 14:31.16 | SkyFlash | let me see the xml code! |
| 14:31.25 | mmotools|lliane | anyway that's not a problem for me |
| 14:31.38 | Kargor | i had a complete framework, wrapping all that silly xml stuff |
| 14:31.44 | mmotools|lliane | if you don't host it I will |
| 14:31.56 | SkyFlash | what you mean with "had"? |
| 14:32.07 | Kargor | it is outdated |
| 14:32.12 | SkyFlash | i dont care :P |
| 14:32.34 | SkyFlash | i am a noob, even if its outdated i am gonna learn something from it |
| 14:32.38 | Kargor | ckknight will evalute it soon enough ;P |
| 14:32.49 | ckknight | yea, I should probably get around to doing that |
| 14:33.09 | SkyFlash | can you upload it somewhere? |
| 14:33.17 | Kargor | the problem is, all my code looks like this and would not help you |
| 14:33.18 | Kargor | for idx = 1, NUM_SLOTS do |
| 14:33.19 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx] = {}; |
| 14:33.19 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].image = MicImage(); |
| 14:33.19 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].icon = MicImage(nil, true); |
| 14:33.19 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].label = MicLabel(BuffSlots[idx].icon, true); |
| 14:33.20 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].icon:SetAnchor("topleft", BuffSlots[idx].image); |
| 14:33.22 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].label:SetAnchor("center"); |
| 14:33.24 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].image:SetTexture(FrameTexture); |
| 14:33.26 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].image:SetDimensions(64, 64); |
| 14:33.30 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].icon:SetDimensions(64, 64); |
| 14:33.32 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].label:SetAutoResize(true); |
| 14:33.34 | Kargor | BuffSlots[idx].image:SetLayer(4); |
| 14:33.36 | Kargor | end |
| 14:33.47 | SkyFlash | thats not xml :P |
| 14:33.54 | ckknight | mmotools|lliane: WoW's lua files are freely provided by Blizzard through a tool they provide |
| 14:34.00 | ckknight | btw, don't spam, Kargor |
| 14:34.04 | Kargor | kk |
| 14:34.06 | AckisWork | Kargor: waruidev.pastey.net please |
| 14:34.12 | Kargor | ahh ok |
| 14:35.35 | AckisWork | ckknight: your hello world mod -> that doesn't follow the file format from the wiki, is that allowed? |
| 14:35.47 | Kargor | sorry sky, the only addon that uses xml is xpstatus |
| 14:35.59 | ckknight | AckisWork: yea, it's what works |
| 14:36.23 | AckisWork | hmmm ok, was having a problem with mine last night before I gave up and watched the Olympics haha |
| 14:36.54 | Kargor | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/warui.php?m=start&s=mod for mod info |
| 14:40.57 | SkyFlash | hm lets see if layer="secondary" does anything |
| 14:41.36 | Kargor | yes it does, but i sugguest you to use the WindowSetLayer() function instead |
| 14:41.53 | SkyFlash | well what does that do? |
| 14:42.13 | Kargor | the funniest thing i had, was to put my addons above the layer of the loading screen ^^ |
| 14:42.21 | SkyFlash | lol... |
| 14:42.36 | Kargor | even the charmenu is lua based |
| 14:42.37 | SkyFlash | no i just mean maybe it will make my window have the size i put there :P |
| 14:42.47 | SkyFlash | for some weird reason :P |
| 14:43.00 | Kargor | try /debug an then log out, the debug window is shown in the character menu ^^ |
| 14:43.33 | Kargor | if your window does not size correcty then there are two reasons |
| 14:43.36 | Kaelten | Kargor: its the same in WoW really. the login screen et al is lua |
| 14:44.28 | Kargor | your xml has a syntax error or a problem with the anchors |
| 14:45.19 | SkyFlash | yes i figured that one out... however .. it doesnt say so in the debug window |
| 14:45.47 | Kargor | maybe kaeltan, but how dump it is to allow addons to use a higher level than the loading screen ? |
| 14:45.57 | Kargor | layer |
| 14:46.35 | Kaelten | Kargor: oh, its not smart. They should flush lua environment after a logout |
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| 14:47.07 | Kaelten | hrm, that might even be a potential security whole to steal passwords.... |
| 14:47.21 | Kargor | hmm ? |
| 14:47.42 | Kaelten | well if you can interact with the login box? |
| 14:47.51 | Kargor | no no |
| 14:48.02 | Kargor | the login box is not used anymore |
| 14:49.10 | Kaelten | hrm, k. |
| 14:49.21 | Kaelten | my gaming computer has been down for a while now. I need to get it back up |
| 14:49.25 | Kargor | btw lliane have you figured out the format of the meta data in myp files ? |
| 14:51.18 | SkyFlash | Ok, here is my current version: http://waruidev.pastey.net/94249 |
| 14:51.29 | SkyFlash | the window is still not 500x500, its not even square |
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| 14:53.27 | SkyFlash | even if i enter 0x0 its still the same size :P |
| 14:53.57 | Kargor | hmm you are anchoring all bars to the topleft corner of the frame ;P |
| 14:57.37 | SkyFlash | yes.. but that works :P |
| 14:57.50 | SkyFlash | <StatusBar name="$parentStatusBar" inherits="EA_StausBar_DefaultTintable" layer="background"> |
| 14:57.55 | AckisWork | is there a self type command? |
| 14:58.00 | SkyFlash | thats a spelling mistake, right? |
| 14:58.15 | SkyFlash | thats from whinyspelltimer |
| 14:58.36 | Kargor | how can i post on http://waruidev.pastey.net/index.php ? |
| 14:58.47 | smcn | what do you mean spelling mistake? |
| 14:59.29 | pewpewarrows | nicoli_s, I might have found out why none of my data is being collected by the curseprofiler |
| 14:59.51 | SkyFlash | EA_StausBar??? |
| 14:59.54 | AckisWork | pewpewarrows: o rly? |
| 14:59.57 | ckknight | Kargor: paste in your code? |
| 15:00.06 | Kargor | EA_StatusBar |
| 15:00.08 | pewpewarrows | every time the interface loads with the debug messages on, I get a message saying that the savedvariables file cannot be opened |
| 15:00.18 | SkyFlash | ya same here pewpew |
| 15:00.32 | pewpewarrows | I'm wondering if it's somehow a path issue |
| 15:00.38 | Kargor | yes ck, but where is the post button ? ^^ |
| 15:00.41 | smcn | lol sky i didn't even realize, but it's copypasta from one of the default xml, so it's mythic's spelling mistake not mine :) |
| 15:00.58 | smcn | and it works^ |
| 15:01.14 | SkyFlash | omg |
| 15:01.45 | AckisWork | TargetPlayer(self) <-- work? |
| 15:02.08 | pewpewarrows | targetplayer takes the objectid if I'm not mistaken |
| 15:02.28 | pewpewarrows | aka GameData.Player.worldObjectNumber |
| 15:02.31 | pewpewarrows | I think that's right |
| 15:02.35 | pewpewarrows | I'd have to double check |
| 15:02.45 | smcn | GameData.Player.worldObjNum |
| 15:02.55 | AckisWork | pewpewarrows: I don't have the game around right now to test things |
| 15:02.59 | AckisWork | aka I'm dry-coding |
| 15:03.00 | AckisWork | ahahahah |
| 15:03.19 | pewpewarrows | yeah, what smcn said |
| 15:03.22 | smcn | the beta center makes it sound like servers will be down until friday when preview weekend starts :( |
| 15:03.34 | Kargor | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94251 @sky thats my template frame |
| 15:03.35 | pewpewarrows | I'd rather they be down until then |
| 15:03.40 | pewpewarrows | and we get an awesome patch |
| 15:03.51 | SkyFlash | smcn can you see what is wrong in my code? |
| 15:03.55 | Kargor | TargetPlayer(L"self") should work ? |
| 15:04.04 | SkyFlash | you seem to have created some windows with different sizes... |
| 15:04.05 | pewpewarrows | I'm only logging in-game to do ui stuff now |
| 15:04.16 | pewpewarrows | I can't stand ctd every 5 min when rvr'ing |
| 15:04.26 | Kargor | ^^ |
| 15:06.14 | SkyFlash | i like your mod btw... nice buff bars |
| 15:06.42 | smcn | SkyFlash: wrt $parentBackground you should specify size |
| 15:07.23 | smcn | i'm not 100% since i haven't really done much with xml besides copypasta, but i see where you're going with the two anchors but i don't think it works like that |
| 15:07.43 | Kargor | the problem is, i has coding all my stuff on my notebook an temoraly copied it to my pc and i forget to save folder, when i was deleting the warhammer folder |
| 15:07.49 | smcn | the anchor is basically just where the frame grows from |
| 15:08.42 | SkyFlash | actually the two anchors seem to work, but the outside containers size does not change |
| 15:09.01 | SkyFlash | i put in those anchors so i immediately see when the size of the outer container changes |
| 15:09.29 | SkyFlash | lemme see about that parentbackground thing |
| 15:09.58 | Kargor | can you post the template for the background ? inherits="x" |
| 15:10.38 | SkyFlash | EA_Window_DefaultFrame? |
| 15:10.48 | SkyFlash | that window works fine though... |
| 15:11.20 | SkyFlash | the inner windows all work... |
| 15:11.35 | SkyFlash | <Window name="Healgrid" layer="secondary" movable="true"> |
| 15:11.35 | SkyFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.35 | SkyFlash | <AbsPoint x="500" y="500" /> |
| 15:11.35 | SkyFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.39 | SkyFlash | that is what is not working |
| 15:11.50 | SkyFlash | everything else looks like supposed to |
| 15:13.15 | SkyFlash | LOL! |
| 15:13.17 | SkyFlash | i fixed it! |
| 15:13.40 | SkyFlash | i renamed the window, then it worked !? |
| 15:13.48 | smcn | haha |
| 15:14.10 | smcn | did you have Healgrid = { } in the lua? |
| 15:14.12 | SkyFlash | the class name cant be the same as the window name... it screws up the API... |
| 15:14.15 | Kargor | window names have to be unique |
| 15:14.18 | smcn | yeah i was just going to say |
| 15:14.21 | SkyFlash | lol.. yes... i did |
| 15:14.31 | Aii | Good morning all. :) |
| 15:14.33 | smcn | when you make a window it's like a global var |
| 15:14.35 | AckisWork | morning Aii |
| 15:14.37 | SkyFlash | weird shit |
| 15:14.46 | smcn | but grats anyways, i had a similar epiphany with whinyspelltimer :P |
| 15:15.11 | Kargor | mythic api is a very big "adventure" |
| 15:15.33 | Kargor | btw is somebody ig ? |
| 15:15.45 | SkyFlash | yes me coding |
| 15:17.39 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.18 | SkyFlash | uh... no that was not the problem |
| 15:18.25 | Aii | mmotools|lliane: ping |
| 15:18.27 | SkyFlash | the problem was much worse... |
| 15:18.33 | Kargor | no, you should enter this command |
| 15:18.41 | SkyFlash | the first time your mod creates a window, the game will save that size into a file |
| 15:18.57 | SkyFlash | after that your mod cant change the size anymore via XML |
| 15:19.09 | SkyFlash | you have to delete the file! |
| 15:19.53 | Kargor | you can resize the window from lua, thats not the problem, what i wanted to ask, if you type in the command from above ... the game should be crashing |
| 15:20.11 | smcn | lol |
| 15:20.47 | SkyFlash | lol i didnt enter it... |
| 15:20.54 | smcn | so i guess it's only the ce beta servers that are down? :( |
| 15:20.54 | mmotools|lliane | aii pong |
| 15:21.26 | SkyFlash | this sucks... |
| 15:21.33 | SkyFlash | you actually have to log out to debug |
| 15:21.47 | Kargor | why ? |
| 15:22.03 | ckknight | alt-enter |
| 15:22.10 | Kargor | window mode |
| 15:23.05 | DHS | achievementhelper: ackis * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 15:23.06 | DHS | AchievementHelper: |
| 15:23.06 | DHS | - Revise the click achievement |
| 15:23.10 | DHS | - Add friends list achievement |
| 15:23.14 | DHS | - Add tell achievement |
| 15:23.19 | SkyFlash | no the file is protected |
| 15:23.20 | ckknight | dammit, how do I turn on colors in this channel? |
| 15:23.34 | AckisWork | damnit: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 15:23.37 | SkyFlash | as long as the game is running, you cant change the file |
| 15:23.40 | AckisWork | that was the best line of the commit note :( |
| 15:23.46 | Kargor | haha, k thats new ^^ |
| 15:23.53 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [-c] by ckknight |
| 15:23.53 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+c] by ChanServ |
| 15:23.53 | pewpewarrows | what was it AckisWork ? |
| 15:24.05 | AckisWork | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 15:24.06 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:24.09 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 15:24.55 | ckknight | AckisWork: well, everything on curseforge should compile with luac -p |
| 15:25.19 | SkyFlash | haha fooled him, deleted the file contents and writeprotected it.. muahahah |
| 15:25.37 | AckisWork | ckknight: way to take the fun out of my dry-coding! |
| 15:26.58 | Kargor | btw the reason i was banned from beta ;P http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/images/goldspam.jpg |
| 15:27.21 | ckknight | were you spamming? |
| 15:27.22 | ckknight | :-P |
| 15:27.54 | Kargor | of course ;P |
| 15:28.09 | ckknight | spamming's lame, guy |
| 15:28.23 | Kargor | i know, i hate it to in wow |
| 15:29.29 | Kargor | the problem is, you can not suppress any messages because you has no access to the chat |
| 15:29.52 | Aii | not exactly true |
| 15:30.01 | Kargor | found a function ? |
| 15:30.33 | pewpewarrows | I thought the chat was fully accessible, but just the combat tab wasn't? |
| 15:30.37 | SkyFlash | goddamn my xml is done.. now to the fun stuff |
| 15:31.11 | Kargor | i was not able to access the chat during my beta time |
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| 15:34.55 | Kargor | sky can you dump that table ? /script DUMP_TABLE(GameData.ChatData) |
| 15:36.30 | SkyFlash | sec |
| 15:36.55 | SkyFlash | yes |
| 15:37.13 | SkyFlash | do you have a list with all the tables in the game? |
| 15:37.17 | SkyFlash | i want it :P |
| 15:37.30 | Kargor | SystemData and GameData |
| 15:37.31 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.47 | Kargor | just dump them |
| 15:37.53 | SkyFlash | k |
| 15:37.55 | SkyFlash | thx |
| 15:38.03 | SkyFlash | hey, is the elapsed time really in seconds? |
| 15:38.13 | SkyFlash | this means i cant update more often than once a second? |
| 15:38.24 | Kargor | yes, but 0.1111 |
| 15:38.29 | SkyFlash | or will elapsed time be |
| 15:38.31 | SkyFlash | yes.. |
| 15:38.35 | SkyFlash | thats what i thought |
| 15:39.33 | Kargor | Aii can you tell me how to access the chat ? |
| 15:39.48 | sylvanaar | Boo |
| 15:40.27 | pewpewarrows | give me a few min Kargor and I'll fill you in |
| 15:40.35 | pewpewarrows | just setting up a proj on CF right now |
| 15:41.31 | netcurse | good mroning ppl |
| 15:41.59 | smcn | mornin yo |
| 15:42.10 | nicoli_s | mornign netcurse |
| 15:43.30 | AckisWork | bonjour netcurse |
| 15:44.44 | ckknight | pewpewarrows: |
| 15:44.47 | ckknight | wtf |
| 15:44.48 | ckknight | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/penguin/ |
| 15:44.54 | netcurse | friday we ll do a mod feature on the front page of WHA |
| 15:44.55 | ckknight | you call it parrot |
| 15:45.06 | ckknight | netcurse: that'd be a damn good idea |
| 15:45.07 | netcurse | so get your mod UP ASAP if you want massive advertising ; ) |
| 15:45.15 | ckknight | if we could have it a weekly or every other week thing |
| 15:45.16 | pewpewarrows | penguins > parrots |
| 15:45.21 | netcurse | yep |
| 15:45.21 | pewpewarrows | imotbh |
| 15:45.25 | ckknight | pewpewarrows: still, change your description |
| 15:45.59 | SkyFlash | ugh |
| 15:46.00 | pewpewarrows | oh wtf |
| 15:46.01 | Kargor | hey smcn the people are afraid of your addon ^^ |
| 15:46.03 | pewpewarrows | why did I put parrot |
| 15:46.08 | SkyFlash | i like his addon |
| 15:46.16 | AckisWork | ~fail pewpewarrows |
| 15:46.17 | purl | pewpewarrows, you Fail! |
| 15:46.17 | SkyFlash | hey, where do i find the group data again?? |
| 15:46.24 | SkyFlash | GameDate. ?? |
| 15:47.01 | AckisWork | pewpewarrows: when C&P a description, change parrot to Penguin please :P |
| 15:47.21 | Kargor | GameData, sorry |
| 15:48.20 | pewpewarrows | no I didn't event C&P |
| 15:48.29 | pewpewarrows | I have no idea why I wrote parrot |
| 15:48.35 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:48.39 | SkyFlash | damn... the gamedata table is huge :P |
| 15:48.44 | pewpewarrows | I'm actually very confused |
| 15:48.55 | Kargor | SystemData >> GameData ;P |
| 15:49.25 | smcn | KARGOR: what? :P |
| 15:49.56 | Kargor | babelfish translation: Oh sorry⦠I had somewhere on the first sides written that WAS anyway also any timers exactly the same as WoW will have in the first month after the releases. Me deceived, gives ' s already before There the Enemy Castbar with security is long in coming more also not. |
| 15:51.42 | Kargor | Most of the elder beta tester dont like addons like nature enemy castbar |
| 15:51.46 | *** join/#waruidev Possiblemente (n=possibly@adsl-75-18-231-224.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:52.13 | smcn | well it's not an enemy castbar :P |
| 15:52.43 | SkyFlash | lol?? |
| 15:52.50 | SkyFlash | what language was that kargor? |
| 15:52.51 | Possiblemente | I would like one of those, though |
| 15:53.05 | ckknight | SkyFlash: Kargor's German |
| 15:53.17 | SkyFlash | me too... |
| 15:53.28 | Kargor | hrhr willkomen im club ;P |
| 15:53.33 | SkyFlash | should i use BuffTargetType? |
| 15:53.49 | Possiblemente | Sorry, what addon are your trying to make Sky? |
| 15:53.52 | SkyFlash | ja.. wusste das schon wegen dem link zur FU :P |
| 15:54.04 | SkyFlash | healbars |
| 15:54.34 | Possiblemente | Are you trying to monitor what the player casts, or how long it lasts? |
| 15:54.41 | Kargor | wegen den bufftypen, kann ich dir nicht weiterhelfen, die waren damals alpha, ich denke mal das in dem table jetzt bessere daten sind |
| 15:54.42 | SkyFlash | no... |
| 15:55.00 | SkyFlash | i am trying to find out the player IDs of the players in your group |
| 15:55.20 | Kargor | hast die lua datei von mythic sky ? |
| 15:57.08 | SkyFlash | ja aber ohne namen :P |
| 15:57.19 | Aii | lol smcn, your timer mod violates one of my ui pet peeves |
| 15:57.29 | SkyFlash | lol? |
| 15:57.29 | Aii | dont make labels for bars taller/wider than the bar itself :P |
| 15:57.33 | pewpewarrows | ok ckknight resubmitted :P |
| 15:57.57 | Kargor | da gibs doch diese eine funktion, womit man die buffs von der gruppe bekommt, die sind dann 1 zu 1 auf die gruppenslots gemapped |
| 15:58.05 | smcn | aii: yeah it bothered me too but i wasn't able to change the size of the bar using the template :/ |
| 15:58.31 | Possiblemente | Whoever made the WhinySpellTimer, I love you |
| 15:58.34 | smcn | i was just looking at the xml for the castingbar though so i'm pretty sure i can figure it out |
| 15:58.44 | Kargor | i had written my own status bar, mythic templates sucks |
| 15:58.45 | smcn | unfortunately the CE beta servers are down until friday ;_; |
| 15:58.58 | pewpewarrows | sadface |
| 15:59.06 | nicoli_s | that blows |
| 15:59.17 | smcn | but at least i have wotlk beta... :P |
| 15:59.19 | Addrar | preparing to launch for the preview weekend I guess |
| 15:59.23 | pewpewarrows | more time to code! |
| 15:59.28 | Aii | if I get a chance tonight (dunno if I will) I'll patch up an elder client |
| 15:59.58 | Aii | actually.... |
| 16:00.17 | Kargor | smcn the status bar template are some kind of hardcoded, you cant resize them in height |
| 16:00.30 | pewpewarrows | Penguin (the sct mod) is now up! |
| 16:00.39 | pewpewarrows | it's very crappy |
| 16:00.47 | Possiblemente | where? |
| 16:00.51 | pewpewarrows | CF |
| 16:01.01 | pewpewarrows | so I wouldn't really recommend using it uet |
| 16:01.04 | pewpewarrows | *yet |
| 16:01.25 | Aii | otoh pretty much anything is better than the default |
| 16:01.32 | Possiblemente | I...oh god I cant handle this. brb need tissues |
| 16:02.31 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 16:02.42 | pewpewarrows | I guess that's true Aii |
| 16:02.47 | Possiblemente | Why does the Curse Client auto install feature make another addons/interface everytime it installs a new addon? |
| 16:02.54 | SkyFlash | GameData.Player.Group[index] |
| 16:03.06 | pewpewarrows | even though mine doesn't show any xp/renown gains, at least it always actually docs above your target's head! |
| 16:03.20 | pewpewarrows | at least in all my tests |
| 16:03.56 | Possiblemente | Yea. I didnt like the original one very much. To small and unnoticeable. |
| 16:04.22 | pewpewarrows | and I got crits working |
| 16:04.27 | pewpewarrows | doubles the size |
| 16:04.37 | Possiblemente | <3 |
| 16:05.21 | SkyFlash | weird... doesnt work in game :P |
| 16:05.22 | Kargor | but mythics sct still show up ? |
| 16:05.55 | pewpewarrows | it's not working? |
| 16:06.13 | pewpewarrows | and Kargor I have it disable mythic's sct when it initializes |
| 16:06.15 | Possiblemente | pewpew used a source folder and the .mod outside, while the other addons do not. Does it make a difference? |
| 16:06.26 | Kargor | no |
| 16:06.53 | Aii | no, you can specify whatever path to files you want within the mod's directory |
| 16:06.56 | pewpewarrows | bah I think I know why |
| 16:07.17 | Aii | SkyFlash: do /debug, see if it gave any errors :P |
| 16:07.25 | Aii | and/or see if its even listed in the mod window :P |
| 16:07.27 | SkyFlash | ya the table doesnt exist lol.. |
| 16:07.35 | SkyFlash | i got it from mythics code though :P |
| 16:08.21 | Kargor | the problem is, if you put files into a subfolder like foo\source\foo.xml and foo\source\foo.lua and you are including lua file via xml, the the path in the xml file must be source\foo\foo.lua |
| 16:08.51 | Kargor | source\foo.lua sorry |
| 16:13.22 | Aii | oh hey... the elder client patches up fast from 3.3... excellent |
| 16:13.28 | Aii | now if only I weren't at work :P |
| 16:13.33 | pewpewarrows | hehe |
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| 16:16.45 | smcn | 2.0.0.0 is the latest curse client? |
| 16:16.53 | Possiblemente | yea |
| 16:16.55 | Aii | i believe so |
| 16:16.55 | Kargor | sky bist du im spiel ? |
| 16:17.04 | Aii | whatever's listed as the latest on the curseforge client |
| 16:18.54 | `Zypher | Aii: whew |
| 16:18.56 | Possiblemente | smcn could you add cooldowns as well to WhinySpellTimer? |
| 16:19.06 | `Zypher | I got an email from the prof and the first class is on the 30th |
| 16:19.39 | Aii | hehe `Zypher good to hear |
| 16:22.00 | Aii | hmm... the WAR client actually doesn't do so bad over remote desktop... |
| 16:24.04 | smcn | Possiblemente: i was going to do a separate mod for that but it's definitely something on my agenda |
| 16:24.25 | SkyFlash | ja bin ich |
| 16:24.25 | Possiblemente | smcn: I look forward to it |
| 16:24.48 | SkyFlash | I am still looking for the way to access the group members health... anyone an idea? |
| 16:25.05 | SkyFlash | GameData.Player.Group has only the group setup apparently |
| 16:25.33 | pewpewarrows | I'll look into it |
| 16:25.37 | SkyFlash | the code from mythic does not work... which i find funny |
| 16:25.56 | pewpewarrows | oh a lot of their stuff just _doesn't_ work |
| 16:26.07 | pewpewarrows | ask anyone who tries to do savedvariables reliably |
| 16:28.27 | nicoli_s | indeed |
| 16:28.39 | nicoli_s | alot of events aren't implemented |
| 16:28.44 | nicoli_s | some of them don't fire all the time |
| 16:29.05 | SkyFlash | ya |
| 16:29.15 | SkyFlash | but it should be easy to find the health of group member 1 |
| 16:29.30 | nicoli_s | i was so pissed, during the last test i could afford of collecting tradeskill recipes, the events i needed to listen to didnt even fire :( |
| 16:29.30 | SkyFlash | i cant even find the unit id |
| 16:30.00 | Aii | nicoli_s: what server were you testing on |
| 16:30.43 | nicoli_s | tyrion |
| 16:31.29 | Possiblemente | If its destruction I could give you money |
| 16:32.17 | Aii | ah, dont really have characters there :X |
| 16:32.57 | Aii | GroupWindow.groupData[groupIndex].healthPercent |
| 16:33.01 | Aii | does that not work SkyFlash ? |
| 16:33.44 | SkyFlash | no.... |
| 16:33.54 | SkyFlash | i tried that.. |
| 16:34.24 | SkyFlash | also.. it relies on the groupwindow, but the groupwindow needs to have its data from somewhere too... |
| 16:35.11 | nicoli_s | i thought the group data was stored in GameData ? |
| 16:35.25 | Aii | um, SkyFlash, GroupWindow stores its data in groupData |
| 16:35.31 | `Zypher | lol mythic can't even spell their own crap properly. |
| 16:35.32 | `Zypher | SystemData.AlertText.Types.STATUS_ACHIEVEMENTS_RENOUN |
| 16:35.43 | ckknight | ol |
| 16:35.44 | ckknight | lol* |
| 16:36.20 | SkyFlash | yup.. i know, i copied that from Mythics code.. but it aint working |
| 16:36.30 | nicoli_s | is it from up to date lua? |
| 16:36.40 | SkyFlash | yes but beta client |
| 16:36.45 | Aii | SkyFlash: I just dumped the GroupWindow.groupData table |
| 16:36.46 | SkyFlash | my current one |
| 16:36.48 | Aii | it seems to be fine |
| 16:36.53 | SkyFlash | great... |
| 16:36.59 | SkyFlash | lemme see again |
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| 16:37.13 | Aii | do /debug, open th console, have logging on |
| 16:37.21 | Aii | then do /script d(GroupWindow.groupData) |
| 16:37.23 | Aii | what do you get? |
| 16:38.01 | `Zypher | Aii: You moved The List! |
| 16:38.03 | `Zypher | :P |
| 16:38.53 | SkyFlash | yes it works ingame.. why doesnt it work in the code? |
| 16:38.56 | SkyFlash | i check for other bugs |
| 16:39.17 | Aii | also |
| 16:39.21 | Aii | GetGroupMemberStatusData(groupMemberIndex) |
| 16:39.31 | Aii | returns hp, ap, morale, lvl, petHp, rvrFlag |
| 16:39.36 | Aii | in that order |
| 16:39.59 | `Zypher | really? |
| 16:40.03 | `Zypher | morale? |
| 16:40.05 | Aii | yes |
| 16:40.07 | `Zypher | wow |
| 16:40.44 | pewpewarrows | morale used to be in the default interface |
| 16:40.47 | pewpewarrows | for group members |
| 16:40.48 | pewpewarrows | iirc |
| 16:41.27 | `Zypher | i c |
| 16:42.04 | SkyFlash | ah thats great.. works now |
| 16:42.46 | Kargor | GroupWindow.lua http://waruidev.pastey.net/94259 |
| 16:45.36 | DHS | penguin: pewpewarrows * r4 / (5 files in 3 directories): |
| 16:45.36 | DHS | Reorganized the directory structure so that it actually works |
| 16:45.57 | `Zypher | yay |
| 16:46.07 | pewpewarrows | ok penguin should be usable now |
| 16:46.27 | SkyFlash | how do i write in lua if i only want the second return value? |
| 16:46.37 | Kargor | _, x = |
| 16:46.41 | pewpewarrows | ^ that |
| 16:46.44 | SkyFlash | :P |
| 16:46.57 | pewpewarrows | the _ acts as a dummy var to store the value in |
| 16:47.21 | pewpewarrows | ok I'm off to lunch, leave me a pm if you still have trouble w/ penguin |
| 16:48.14 | Kargor | pew btw, have you checked that mythics addons are initialized before your addon. in beta 2.0 the client have initilized the addons in random order |
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| 16:52.00 | Aii | Kargor: that's what dependencies are for |
| 16:52.18 | Kargor | i konw, but mythic dont know it |
| 16:52.24 | Aii | no, I mean |
| 16:52.31 | Aii | you can specify addons as dependencies in the .mod |
| 16:52.37 | Aii | and it will force-load them first |
| 16:52.41 | Aii | before your addon |
| 16:52.53 | smcn | i tried depping EA_ChatWindow and it actually caused EA_ChatWindow to fail to load |
| 16:53.13 | Kargor | yes but read above, the are loaded but that not mean that they are initialized in that order |
| 16:53.33 | SkyFlash | where did you find GetGroupMembersStatusData? |
| 16:53.41 | SkyFlash | are there more functions like that? |
| 16:53.42 | Aii | groupwindow.lua, SkyFlash |
| 16:53.45 | SkyFlash | k |
| 16:53.54 | Kargor | sky hab ich oben gepostet die lua datei |
| 16:54.35 | Aii | Kargor: Dunno, I was having order issues with ChatWindow but then dep'd it and stopped having them |
| 16:55.06 | Kargor | btw has someone tested if /reloadui reload ui correctly braodcasts the event ? |
| 16:55.13 | SkyFlash | yup hab ich jetzt |
| 16:55.14 | `Zypher | lol see Aii something is wrong with EA_ChatWindow |
| 16:55.15 | Kargor | in beta 2.0 it doesnt do this |
| 16:55.25 | SkyFlash | haha fuck me, a group only has 5 players in it |
| 16:55.30 | nicoli_s | it does kargor |
| 16:55.33 | SkyFlash | no wonder it screws me up |
| 16:56.36 | Aii | SkyFlash: yeah, it doesnt include yourself |
| 16:57.10 | `Zypher | @ channel |
| 16:57.10 | DHS | `Zypher: (channel [<channel>] <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the channel configuration variable for <name> to <value> for <channel>. Otherwise, returns the current channel configuration value of <name>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 16:57.24 | `Zypher | lol |
| 16:57.26 | `Zypher | woops |
| 16:57.48 | `Zypher | PLAYER_CAREER_RANK_UPDATED |
| 16:57.54 | `Zypher | is that fired when a player levels up |
| 16:57.56 | `Zypher | or ranks up |
| 16:58.01 | Kargor | level = rank |
| 16:58.08 | `Zypher | well wait |
| 16:58.13 | `Zypher | theres renown ranks |
| 16:58.16 | `Zypher | and rank ranks |
| 16:58.23 | Kargor | mom |
| 16:58.25 | `Zypher | so which is it? |
| 16:58.30 | Aii | career is non-renown |
| 16:58.34 | `Zypher | ok |
| 16:59.36 | SkyFlash | my addon that is supposed to update every .5 seconds doesnt update at all actually... thats funny :P |
| 17:00.13 | Kargor | du willst das es alle 0.5 sekunden geupdatet wird ? |
| 17:00.14 | Aii | SkyFlash: what does your OnUpdate code look like |
| 17:01.29 | Kargor | hast du dich fürs onupdate event registriert ? |
| 17:02.04 | Aii | bah, less german more english, let other people participate in the conversation :P |
| 17:02.08 | SkyFlash | i copied the code from the warwiki |
| 17:02.16 | SkyFlash | so it should work... |
| 17:02.26 | Aii | that's not really a safe assumption :P |
| 17:02.35 | SkyFlash | its all weird... in wow it all worked.. kinda |
| 17:02.41 | Kargor | i asked him, if he had registered his add on for the OnUpdate event ;P |
| 17:02.48 | Aii | yeah, I got that Kargor |
| 17:02.50 | SkyFlash | well the function is called.. just the statusbar lags behind |
| 17:02.55 | Aii | but just in general ;) |
| 17:03.05 | Aii | define 'lags behind' |
| 17:03.09 | SkyFlash | also, if i go into a warband, its all screwed up |
| 17:03.14 | Kargor | you have to stop interpolating the status bar |
| 17:03.21 | Aii | thats because warband parties are handled differently |
| 17:03.26 | SkyFlash | well i see the statusbar move in the groupwindow |
| 17:03.36 | SkyFlash | then it takes like 1-2 seconds and mine moves |
| 17:03.45 | SkyFlash | thats not acceptable :P |
| 17:04.00 | SkyFlash | also... then how do i access the warband group? :P |
| 17:04.17 | Kargor | i had a funny screen, showing that mythic status bars have a delay |
| 17:04.19 | Aii | sounds like you're not calling the function to proerly update the *display* of your bar at the right time |
| 17:05.43 | Kargor | after you changed the value of the statusbar you must call StatusBarStopInterpolating(statusbarname) |
| 17:09.03 | SkyFlash | ya i try that next |
| 17:09.44 | Aii | *not to self; find a way to stop interpolation on *all* bars :P |
| 17:09.47 | Aii | *note |
| 17:09.52 | Aii | i hate it :P |
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| 17:10.54 | SkyFlash | ya me too... looks shitty |
| 17:11.08 | `Zypher | <3 it |
| 17:11.09 | `Zypher | lol |
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| 17:11.58 | Kargor | the best part of the status bar is. there is no dynamic way to change the texture |
| 17:12.49 | Kargor | if you want to load textures btw |
| 17:13.36 | SkyFlash | no i hate textures |
| 17:13.47 | Kargor | <Assets><Texture name="bartex10" file="textures/bartex10.dds" /></Assets> |
| 17:13.54 | SkyFlash | i want a clean statusbar with all the health and no crappy info :P |
| 17:13.57 | Kargor | must be included in an xml file |
| 17:14.27 | Kargor | naja solange die ganz schlichte texturen benutzt ist es ja ok |
| 17:14.34 | Kargor | du |
| 17:15.10 | SkyFlash | k it works! weee my first group health addon |
| 17:15.12 | SkyFlash | lol |
| 17:15.20 | SkyFlash | now displaying alone is rather useless *g* |
| 17:24.22 | `Zypher | SkyFlash: are you on EU? |
| 17:37.25 | SkyFlash | yup |
| 17:39.39 | `Zypher | has goa moved you guys to the launch servers yet? |
| 17:39.46 | pewpewarrows | hot damn, almost 9,000 items on wardb |
| 17:41.09 | `Zypher | over 9000? |
| 17:42.57 | smcn | what 9000! |
| 17:43.28 | smcn | hey pewpew! what does the scouter say about his power level! |
| 17:43.36 | Possiblemente | CCCCCOMBO BREAKER |
| 17:46.57 | pewpewarrows | oh god >< |
| 17:47.49 | pewpewarrows | lol my bank told me that the paycheck I deposited last week wouldn't be available until the 30th |
| 17:47.54 | pewpewarrows | time to call and yell at people |
| 17:49.46 | Aii | .. |
| 17:49.50 | Aii | time to find a new bank |
| 17:51.35 | pewpewarrows | it's bank of america |
| 17:51.41 | pewpewarrows | I have no idea why it happened |
| 17:53.02 | nicoli_s | that's bullshit |
| 17:56.59 | Aii | pewpewarrows: go into the bank branch and complain about it in person |
| 17:57.09 | Aii | there's a fairly good chance that if you're persistent, they can sort it out |
| 17:57.41 | pewpewarrows | hmm good idea |
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| 17:58.24 | AckisWork | tell them you have a gun too |
| 17:58.32 | pewpewarrows | OK |
| 18:00.05 | Aii | ~lart AckisWork |
| 18:00.05 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on AckisWork and turns AckisWork into a brick |
| 18:00.08 | `Zypher | AckisWork: thats probably not that smart, guns aren't very persuasive these days, he needs a bomb strapped to his chest. |
| 18:00.25 | Aii | ~whalepunt `Zypher |
| 18:00.26 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts `Zypher across the Solar System |
| 18:00.27 | AckisWork | oh my bad |
| 18:00.28 | nicoli_s | but don't use real explosives, use hotdogs so you wont get in trouble |
| 18:00.44 | `Zypher | haha |
| 18:00.57 | `Zypher | what is that from |
| 18:01.00 | `Zypher | with the hotdogs |
| 18:01.03 | Aii | ~whaleslap nicoli_s |
| 18:01.04 | purl | ACTION beats nicoli_s upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:01.57 | pewpewarrows | hotdogs are a great idea |
| 18:02.04 | pewpewarrows | because then afterwards I get a free meal |
| 18:02.10 | pewpewarrows | success! |
| 18:02.53 | `Zypher | ckknight: curseforge no likes my animated gif |
| 18:02.56 | `Zypher | heh |
| 18:03.15 | AckisWork | `Zypher: I've QQed about that already, fell on deaf ears |
| 18:04.25 | `Zypher | heh |
| 18:04.42 | `Zypher | my dancing spiderman shall not be seen :S |
| 18:04.55 | pewpewarrows | I'm pretty sure we're all very grateful for that |
| 18:05.00 | `Zypher | lol |
| 18:05.06 | pewpewarrows | and damn this channel's grown in the last 24hrs |
| 18:05.11 | Aii | behold, automagical alphabetic sorting! http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/Category:API_Functions |
| 18:05.31 | `Zypher | just a little bit |
| 18:05.32 | Possiblemente | nice |
| 18:05.38 | `Zypher | nice Aii |
| 18:06.28 | Aii | hmm |
| 18:06.36 | Aii | should I include object methods in the Functions category or not |
| 18:06.44 | Aii | (the alternative being a separate Methods category) |
| 18:06.55 | rockastop | is there a way for an addon to communicate with other players' addons like there is in wow? |
| 18:06.58 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3232305_q6phl/spiderman-troupe.gif |
| 18:07.23 | nicoli_s | people are working on that rockastop |
| 18:07.41 | rockastop | as in people at mythic or a 3rd party thing? |
| 18:07.45 | Aii | 3rd |
| 18:07.47 | rockastop | k |
| 18:08.10 | rockastop | is there a project page for that somewhere? |
| 18:08.27 | nicoli_s | not yet, still in development |
| 18:08.31 | rockastop | ok |
| 18:12.03 | Possiblemente | pew, did you fix the problem with SCT? |
| 18:12.08 | Possiblemente | sorry, penguin |
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| 18:32.32 | nicoli_s | man allakazham's war site sucks :P |
| 18:33.28 | Aii | o.o |
| 18:34.09 | nicoli_s | not that i'ms biased or anything :P |
| 18:34.11 | ckknight | `Zypher: animated gif? |
| 18:36.16 | Aii | ckknight: yes |
| 18:36.25 | ckknight | yea saw it |
| 18:36.36 | ckknight | funny |
| 18:36.46 | ckknight | something you should talk to Kaelten about, `Zypher |
| 18:37.06 | Kaelten | ? |
| 18:37.44 | Kaelten | ckknight: http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/08/20/some-magsafe-adapters-being-replaced-by-apple |
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| 18:39.09 | ckknight | Kaelten: hey, mine did that |
| 18:39.16 | ckknight | already got a new one, though |
| 18:39.21 | Kaelten | threw away the old I'm guessing? |
| 18:39.42 | Kaelten | and http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/08/20/the-enemy-projector-is-down-creating-the-ultimate-play-surface is just cool |
| 18:42.26 | ckknight | `Zypher: why do you have v0.1 and v0.1-release on http://war.curseforge.com/projects/zchatwindow/ ? |
| 18:43.19 | Kaelten | ckknight: why is my hg's files names still showing the wrong revision :P |
| 18:43.27 | ckknight | Kaelten: gnomes |
| 18:43.46 | ckknight | I think it's the way hg figures out revisions |
| 18:43.59 | ckknight | so it went r0, r1, r2 |
| 18:44.11 | Kaelten | stop treating hg like a second class citizen :P |
| 18:44.22 | ckknight | bah |
| 18:44.28 | ckknight | fine, I'll look into it |
| 18:44.59 | Kaelten | also it looks like http://hg.curseforge.net/wow/onebag3/mainline doesn't work |
| 18:45.01 | Kaelten | :s |
| 18:45.08 | ckknight | ah, goddammit |
| 18:45.09 | Kaelten | ya nginx 404 |
| 18:45.12 | ckknight | did apache go down again? |
| 18:45.30 | Kaelten | ? |
| 18:45.39 | ckknight | yea, that was it |
| 18:45.43 | ckknight | apache should be running, not nginx |
| 18:46.05 | ckknight | btw, Kaelten, what should the hg revision be for those? |
| 18:46.06 | Kaelten | what does nginx do on that server? |
| 18:46.12 | ckknight | nothing |
| 18:46.14 | ckknight | I shut it down |
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| 18:46.52 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 18:46.53 | Kaelten | changeset: 2:1ac199be6414 |
| 18:46.56 | Kaelten | I guess r2 is right |
| 18:47.19 | ckknight | I could change it to the hash or something else, but I think that's kinda blah |
| 18:47.26 | Kaelten | ya hash is bad |
| 18:47.45 | Kaelten | for some reason I thought I had more than 3 changesets in there :s |
| 18:48.02 | Kaelten | I'll test it some more when I get home and work on ob3 some mroe |
| 18:48.09 | ckknight | okay then |
| 18:48.48 | Kaelten | if nginx isn't doing anything on that server I'm going to remove it |
| 18:48.54 | ckknight | go ahead |
| 18:51.03 | nicoli_s | on wardb, should we change the display of Sorcerer to Sorceress? some people are aksing for it |
| 18:52.03 | CowBook_ | lol |
| 18:52.22 | nicoli_s | i think it's not necessar |
| 18:52.23 | CowBook_ | Sorcere.* |
| 18:53.10 | Aii | um, why would you change it? |
| 18:53.19 | Aii | the class can be either male or female |
| 18:53.29 | Aii | and sorceress specifically specifies female |
| 18:53.32 | Aii | which is incorrect |
| 18:53.49 | nicoli_s | people are arguing in the lore that's how it is |
| 18:54.13 | Aii | people are stupid |
| 18:54.15 | Aii | don't change it |
| 18:54.50 | nicoli_s | thanks you :) |
| 18:56.26 | Aii | the accepted English standard is that the masculine form is also the generic form |
| 18:56.47 | Aii | (not that there aren't plenty of feminists who would like to change that) |
| 18:57.35 | nicoli_s | well luckily the boss shot it down, he thought it wazs stupid too |
| 18:57.43 | Aii | good. :P |
| 18:58.11 | Aii | but yeah, in english the masculine form is abiguous about gender but the feminine form is definite |
| 18:58.25 | Aii | so there's no reason you'd use the feminine form to refer to both genders if that's all you're using |
| 18:58.40 | Aii | ~heading home for lunch, back in a few |
| 19:02.17 | SkyFlash | and the LUA API uses Sorcerer and Sorceress... just fixed the bug |
| 19:08.51 | Aiiane | that was odd |
| 19:09.04 | Aiiane | somehow, my firefox input boxes got switched over to right-to-left input |
| 19:09.15 | pewpewarrows | Possiblemente, I was in a meeting |
| 19:09.22 | nicoli_s | that is weird |
| 19:09.22 | pewpewarrows | but yeah, penguin should be usable in-game now |
| 19:09.35 | Possiblemente | is the SVN updated? |
| 19:09.48 | pewpewarrows | Aiiane, I think there's an obscure keybind that does that |
| 19:09.50 | Possiblemente | I thought people were having trouble or something. |
| 19:09.55 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: yeah, i think so |
| 19:10.03 | pewpewarrows | Possiblemente, svn should be updated on CF |
| 19:10.17 | pewpewarrows | yeah r4 is up there |
| 19:12.00 | ckknight | pewpewarrows: make sure to tag if you want it to reach curse.com |
| 19:12.38 | Aiiane | nicoli_s: amusingly, the Lua interface code uses both sorcerer and sorceress in places |
| 19:12.41 | Aiiane | local CAREER_SORCERER = 4 |
| 19:12.48 | Aiiane | SorceressResource:Create() |
| 19:14.09 | SkyFlash | my addon is ready for publishing.. well.. its just for learning :P |
| 19:14.14 | pewpewarrows | imo in the wardb user profile ask if they're M or F, and change all the text on site to match accordingly |
| 19:14.14 | pewpewarrows | j/k |
| 19:14.15 | pewpewarrows | :P |
| 19:14.35 | ckknight | pewpewarrows: but I play females |
| 19:14.40 | pewpewarrows | as do I |
| 19:14.42 | Aiiane | then you'd get complaints from all the G.I.R.L.s, pewpewarrows |
| 19:14.50 | pewpewarrows | LOL |
| 19:15.00 | pewpewarrows | I'd never seen that acronym before Aiiane |
| 19:15.08 | pewpewarrows | strandely I knew immediately what it stood for |
| 19:15.52 | `Zypher | pewpew isn't pewpewarrows a guy atm?\ |
| 19:17.03 | nicoli_s | actually, the solution we decided to go with is to show male and female side by side every where we show it |
| 19:17.14 | nicoli_s | so we can be P.C. |
| 19:17.19 | Aiiane | >< |
| 19:17.21 | `Zypher | :D |
| 19:17.26 | Aiiane | ~fail political correctness |
| 19:17.27 | purl | political correctness: FAIL! |
| 19:17.37 | pewpewarrows | oh please tell me that's not what you decided nicoli_s |
| 19:17.50 | nicoli_s | and every where in the quest text it says him, it will now say him or her or it |
| 19:18.21 | pewpewarrows | Sorcer(er|ess) |
| 19:18.23 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 19:18.26 | SkyFlash | hum.. it doesnt let me upload via SVN... not that i ever used SVN, but i used CVS a lot and it was easy... |
| 19:18.26 | pewpewarrows | that failed |
| 19:18.36 | SkyFlash | how do i upload to curseforge? |
| 19:18.38 | ckknight | SkyFlash: need some guidance? |
| 19:18.48 | SkyFlash | guess so.. what is my username and password? |
| 19:18.48 | Aiiane | SkyFlash: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/pages/repository-faq/ |
| 19:19.06 | pewpewarrows | sigh, I don't know why I even bother going on digg anymore |
| 19:19.20 | `Zypher | digg is full of fail |
| 19:19.20 | Aiiane | you bothered going on digg in the first place? |
| 19:19.21 | pewpewarrows | I get their tech category feed, that's it for me |
| 19:19.26 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:19.45 | nicoli_s | slashdot > digg |
| 19:19.49 | SkyFlash | lol... |
| 19:19.50 | pewpewarrows | yeah I agree |
| 19:20.04 | SkyFlash | ok.. now i didnt know i need a different password |
| 19:20.13 | pewpewarrows | oh speaking of which |
| 19:20.28 | pewpewarrows | my friend wanted my to make a digg clone for porn |
| 19:20.32 | pewpewarrows | and call it pigg |
| 19:20.33 | pewpewarrows | I lol'ed |
| 19:20.44 | ghostfish | do it |
| 19:21.21 | pewpewarrows | I'm considering it |
| 19:21.42 | ckknight | go for it |
| 19:21.46 | `Zypher | http://entensity.net/ |
| 19:21.47 | `Zypher | nsfw |
| 19:21.48 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:22.20 | nicoli_s | i work out of the home, is it same for me? |
| 19:22.50 | `Zypher | http://poststuff5.entensity.net/081508/flash.php?media=ouch.flv |
| 19:23.53 | DHS | healgrid: skyflash * r2 / (5 files in 2 directories): First upload |
| 19:24.07 | `Zypher | http://poststuff5.entensity.net/081508/flash.php?media=idiot.flv |
| 19:24.09 | `Zypher | o god |
| 19:24.36 | Kargor | anyone knows how to save the window settings ? they have removed the old functions |
| 19:24.39 | SkyFlash | ya SVN seems to work :P |
| 19:24.53 | SkyFlash | the windows settings save by themselves |
| 19:24.55 | pewpewarrows | ooo, healgrid |
| 19:24.59 | pewpewarrows | that sounds enticing |
| 19:24.59 | SkyFlash | that was my bug :P |
| 19:25.05 | SkyFlash | ya but it isn't |
| 19:25.13 | pewpewarrows | but one day it can be! |
| 19:25.13 | SkyFlash | just display for now, no action |
| 19:25.18 | SkyFlash | yup it can be |
| 19:25.32 | SkyFlash | probably will be as I am a healer and i hate the Warhammer UI |
| 19:25.34 | Aiiane | SkyFlash: if you can find a way to handle clicks |
| 19:25.38 | Kargor | nein sky, tun sie nicht, nachdem ich mich auslogge ist das fenster nicht mehr an der position, wenn ich mich wieder einlogge |
| 19:25.43 | Aiiane | all you need is TargetPlayer(towstring(playername)) |
| 19:25.43 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [-c] by ckknight |
| 19:25.43 | *** mode/#WARUIDev [+c] by ChanServ |
| 19:25.45 | SkyFlash | echt? |
| 19:26.10 | SkyFlash | bei mir schon... komisch :P ich musste extra das bekloppte file schreibschützen um das zu verhindern |
| 19:27.20 | Deron | This channel has been quiet for like 6 hours... |
| 19:27.27 | Deron | oops |
| 19:27.29 | Deron | lol |
| 19:27.31 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 19:27.31 | Aiiane | no it hasnt |
| 19:27.33 | Deron | i ahd scrolled up |
| 19:27.33 | Aiiane | scroll down :P |
| 19:27.35 | pewpewarrows | ./highfive |
| 19:27.36 | Deron | had* |
| 19:27.42 | Deron | xD |
| 19:27.49 | pewpewarrows | now you have 6 hours of reading to do |
| 19:27.50 | pewpewarrows | go! |
| 19:27.55 | Deron | hehe |
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| 19:29.33 | `Zypher1 | who doesn't love random bsods |
| 19:29.41 | ckknight | I don't love them |
| 19:29.44 | ckknight | granted, I don't get them |
| 19:29.46 | ckknight | I use a Mac |
| 19:30.04 | Aiiane | you ged bbods instead |
| 19:30.07 | Aiiane | beachballs of death |
| 19:30.21 | `Zypher1 | oh |
| 19:30.28 | `Zypher1 | see I was thinking blue balls* |
| 19:31.43 | Aiiane | WHA is acting wonky for me :| |
| 19:32.34 | pewpewarrows | did they do away with the mac sadface on a crash? |
| 19:32.35 | `Zypher1 | wonky is fun |
| 19:32.57 | Aiiane | pewpewarrows: it's really hard to get a true crash on a mac now |
| 19:33.07 | Aiiane | you'd have to find a way to make it kernelpanic or something |
| 19:33.18 | Jedric_ | lol |
| 19:33.19 | pewpewarrows | yeah, well it is unix |
| 19:33.22 | Aiiane | but you can lock up the UI real well |
| 19:33.25 | Jedric_ | i know a good way to make a Mac crash |
| 19:33.32 | Jedric_ | install Windows on it :) |
| 19:33.34 | pewpewarrows | kernelpanics are really the only reliable way to crash it |
| 19:34.13 | `Zypher1 | or you could just get a bunch of mac fanbois together and put it in the center of a circle and watch them tear it apart. |
| 19:36.03 | ckknight | lol, Jedric_ |
| 19:36.23 | Jedric_ | and yes i am on a Mac Pro with Vista installed |
| 19:36.36 | Jedric_ | worst idea ever! |
| 19:36.54 | ckknight | http://www.tailsteak.com/archive.php?num=433 |
| 19:37.53 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 19:39.17 | ghostfish | shit dude |
| 19:39.28 | ghostfish | that's like putting 87 octane into a Ferrari |
| 19:39.31 | ghostfish | WTF |
| 19:40.25 | nicoli_s | no, it's like putting 87 octane into a car you paid double the sticker price for because the paint job is so good :P |
| 19:40.37 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:41.23 | nicoli_s | both my mom and sister paid like 1500 dollars for macs because they look pretty, so i havea grudge |
| 19:41.34 | Aiiane | hey, can someone see if they can load thewarwiki.com for me quick? |
| 19:41.35 | `Zypher1 | yes |
| 19:41.42 | Aiiane | k |
| 19:41.47 | `Zypher1 | no |
| 19:41.53 | `Zypher1 | yes to macs being overpriced |
| 19:41.56 | `Zypher1 | no to warwiki |
| 19:41.57 | Aiiane | ah |
| 19:41.58 | nicoli_s | i can reach it |
| 19:42.13 | pewpewarrows | yeah I can get to it |
| 19:42.20 | Aiiane | hrm |
| 19:42.30 | `Zypher1 | http://regmedia.co.uk/2008/01/19/macbookcommodorecompare.jpg |
| 19:42.32 | `Zypher1 | imo |
| 19:42.32 | CowBook_ | i dunno, macs have pretty high resalve value |
| 19:42.35 | Possiblemente | thewarwiki is down for me |
| 19:42.36 | CowBook_ | resale |
| 19:42.42 | Kaelten | is it possible that aiiane and zypher are on the same network |
| 19:42.52 | Possiblemente | eh, nevermind |
| 19:43.02 | Possiblemente | when I did http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page it worked |
| 19:43.10 | `Zypher | ya |
| 19:43.14 | Aiiane | just started working against for me |
| 19:43.14 | `Zypher | it works for me now |
| 19:43.16 | Aiiane | *again |
| 19:43.19 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:43.24 | `Zypher | its because of macs! |
| 19:44.08 | Possiblemente | Macs interface + Windows compatibility + Linux's core and open source |
| 19:44.39 | Aiiane | oh god, the english language is crying out to me |
| 19:44.50 | Aiiane | someone on the test server with a name of "Scorceress" |
| 19:46.06 | pewpewarrows | well you can get the mac interface on linux |
| 19:46.15 | `Zypher | are servers being up yet? |
| 19:46.15 | SkyFlash | lol... i just wanted to test how the colors are looking for my class coloring code... |
| 19:46.19 | pewpewarrows | so just get big-name apps to be developed for linux |
| 19:46.23 | pewpewarrows | and you're set |
| 19:46.26 | SkyFlash | but its impossible.. everything is WHITE! |
| 19:46.43 | SkyFlash | like 90% of the players play a friggin healer! |
| 19:46.56 | `Zypher | healers = op as hell atm |
| 19:47.01 | SkyFlash | and i mean shaman and zealot, no disciples |
| 19:47.17 | Aiiane | um.. apparently you're ignoring the hordes of chosen? |
| 19:47.22 | Kaelten | Possiblemente: I just want it to have macs being able to natively run windows apps |
| 19:47.22 | SkyFlash | cause disciple would highlight as grey... |
| 19:47.28 | Kaelten | I hope crossover keeps getting better |
| 19:47.39 | `Zypher | wine |
| 19:47.50 | SkyFlash | no there were no tanks... a full warband, just lots of healers and some melees |
| 19:48.02 | SkyFlash | sad |
| 19:48.18 | `Zypher | I hope wine keeps getting better and better. |
| 19:49.27 | `Zypher | pewpewarrows: have you tried playing in wine recently? |
| 19:49.54 | pewpewarrows | No, haven't ever yet |
| 19:50.01 | `Zypher | lol same |
| 19:50.13 | `Zypher | I'd have to install linux on this computer at some point |
| 19:50.22 | `Zypher | and I know vista and grub don't play well together |
| 19:53.37 | `Zypher | does anyone know if paint.net supports alpha channels? |
| 19:56.45 | Kaelten | hey guys all of our sites hosted in fortressitx seem to be down |
| 19:56.53 | Kaelten | we have the hosters checking into it |
| 19:59.44 | nicoli_s | just get the gimp zypher |
| 20:00.13 | `Zypher | well I have photoshop |
| 20:00.21 | `Zypher | :< |
| 20:00.28 | `Zypher | I was just looking to see how pain.net was |
| 20:01.57 | ckknight | I need ideas for the next curseforge poll |
| 20:02.26 | Aiiane | What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? |
| 20:03.34 | Aiiane | Options: Blue, Yellow, Assyria, Well how am I supposed to know that?, and Africian or european? |
| 20:06.29 | *** join/#waruidev pewpewarrows (n=pewpewar@h-67-100-240-252.mclnva23.covad.net) |
| 20:07.19 | `Zypher | lol |
| 20:08.08 | mmotools|Lliane | Aiiane> monty python holy grail? |
| 20:08.30 | ckknight | okay, the poll's going to be what superpower you'd choose |
| 20:08.34 | ckknight | I need advice on what to put |
| 20:09.33 | pewpewarrows | hmm |
| 20:09.35 | pewpewarrows | Flying |
| 20:09.53 | ckknight | ah, good one |
| 20:10.54 | Aii | the last option has to be "I just want to be Cpt. Obvious" |
| 20:11.02 | pewpewarrows | lol |
| 20:11.02 | Frank349 | Sleaping with eyes open. |
| 20:11.06 | Frank349 | sleeping |
| 20:11.28 | ckknight | Invisibility, X-Ray vision, Travel through walls, Punching people through the internet, Flying (with or without wings), Gigantic brain |
| 20:11.30 | ckknight | what else? |
| 20:11.49 | pewpewarrows | oh god |
| 20:11.54 | pewpewarrows | punching people through the internet |
| 20:11.59 | pewpewarrows | I'd take that in a heartbeat |
| 20:12.41 | pewpewarrows | underwater breathing? |
| 20:12.42 | CowBook_ | you guys see the new cinematic? |
| 20:12.43 | CowBook_ | http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/WAR_cinematic_08.html |
| 20:12.46 | CowBook_ | pretty fun |
| 20:12.50 | pewpewarrows | yeah ^^ |
| 20:14.52 | `Zypher | fucking hate this flash player |
| 20:14.59 | `Zypher | it does this crap where it wont buffer |
| 20:15.02 | `Zypher | when I pause it |
| 20:15.11 | `Zypher | so I get a really gay movie lol |
| 20:16.21 | CowBook_ | oh i'm sorry, did i link the wrong movie? |
| 20:16.26 | CowBook_ | :P |
| 20:19.38 | Kargor | i have found the error sky, if your window do not have any anchors, the position do not get saved |
| 20:22.57 | Aii | er, yes, that's to be expected kargor o_O |
| 20:23.42 | Kargor | why ? all my addons had no anchors, i positioned them myself |
| 20:23.59 | CowBook_ | is the anchor where it expands from? |
| 20:25.14 | Aii | someone's addicted: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1153949 |
| 20:25.30 | Aii | CowBook_: the anchor is what the window layout manager uses to lay things out. |
| 20:25.47 | CowBook_ | bummer about the servers being down, i'm going to be gone all weekend |
| 20:25.50 | CowBook_ | oh well |
| 20:25.55 | Aii | for instance, you can tell it that the anchor of your window is the top left corner, and it should be at 0,0 relative to the bottom-right corner of another window |
| 20:26.21 | CowBook_ | is that also where, if your window grows, it grows from? |
| 20:26.25 | Aii | and then if you move the parent window, your window will move too so that it's still topleft-to-bottomright |
| 20:26.53 | CowBook_ | if you set the anchor to 0,100 and your window is 200 tall |
| 20:26.57 | Kargor | aii if my frame had no anchor, then the api should take topleft as anchor |
| 20:27.01 | CowBook_ | then the window grows to 300 tall |
| 20:27.07 | CowBook_ | is the anchor now at 0,150 ? |
| 20:27.14 | CowBook_ | relatively-speaking |
| 20:27.37 | Aii | Kargor: "Should" and "does" have very different meanings, Kargor |
| 20:27.50 | CowBook_ | or do you have to manually reposition the window relative to its anchor |
| 20:28.35 | Aii | you dont set the anchor to 0,100 |
| 20:28.47 | Aii | anchor points are relative names |
| 20:29.03 | CowBook_ | i guess i need to look at the system |
| 20:29.04 | Aii | or do you mean relative to the root frame? |
| 20:29.08 | CowBook_ | i haven't used it yet |
| 20:29.13 | CowBook_ | no worries, i'm sure it can do all this |
| 20:29.19 | CowBook_ | or they would have a different system :D |
| 20:29.53 | CowBook_ | what i don't see in the stock ui editing interface |
| 20:30.10 | CowBook_ | is the ability to determine when a frame grows in size, what point it grows from |
| 20:30.14 | Kargor | you can add up to 2 anchors for each frame, this helps you to stretch frames |
| 20:30.22 | CowBook_ | i'm just assuming that it grows based on where on the screen it was placed |
| 20:30.33 | CowBook_ | like, a top right frame would grow down and to the left |
| 20:30.54 | CowBook_ | or one on the middle left would grow both up and down and to the right |
| 20:30.56 | Kargor | cow for your information, the offset is scaled |
| 20:31.36 | CowBook_ | for example, i wanted the quest tracker to appear below the minimap on the right |
| 20:31.50 | Kargor | anchoring something to the center and positioning it -100 units in y offset does not mean that these are 100 pixels |
| 20:31.51 | CowBook_ | but the quest tracker seems to grow outwards vertically from its middle point |
| 20:31.56 | Aii | CowBook_: I'd assume it'd grow from the anchor |
| 20:32.08 | CowBook_ | but it'd be nice to change the anchor dynamically |
| 20:32.09 | Aii | Kargor: he's not talking about UI scaling |
| 20:32.20 | Aii | he's talking about actually changing the width of the frame |
| 20:32.28 | CowBook_ | i'm talking about the fram growing |
| 20:32.33 | CowBook_ | like, when you add more quests |
| 20:33.03 | Kargor | the quest frame has a fixed size |
| 20:33.13 | CowBook_ | quest tracker? |
| 20:33.25 | CowBook_ | it seemed to grow for me |
| 20:33.25 | Kargor | yes the quest tracker |
| 20:33.38 | CowBook_ | it started small, then got larger as i added more quests |
| 20:33.42 | Aii | no, it just is transparent for most of it |
| 20:33.47 | CowBook_ | hmmn |
| 20:33.56 | Aii | there's a reason you can only track 10 quests max |
| 20:34.29 | CowBook_ | so does it center its own content vertically in its own frame? |
| 20:34.51 | Kargor | the quest tracker is anchored to the root frame |
| 20:35.12 | CowBook_ | and the content inside the quest tracker |
| 20:35.25 | Kargor | <WindowAnchor xmlVersion="1.0" point="bottomright" relativePoint="topright" relativeTo="AlertTrackerWindow" xOffset="0.000000" yOffset="5.000000" /> |
| 20:35.47 | CowBook_ | i'm not talking about the quest tracker frame |
| 20:35.52 | CowBook_ | i'm talking about the content inside of it |
| 20:36.46 | Kargor | the content of the tracker is anchored to the quest tracker -.- |
| 20:36.48 | CowBook_ | when quests were added to my tracker, they didn't just grow downwards in the list |
| 20:36.55 | CowBook_ | they grew both up and down |
| 20:37.13 | CowBook_ | thereby staying centered vertically |
| 20:37.30 | CowBook_ | so imagine we have numbers from 1 to 10 |
| 20:37.38 | CowBook_ | and i had one quest at position 5 |
| 20:38.02 | CowBook_ | if i added two more quests, they wouldn't occupy spot 6 and 7 |
| 20:38.15 | CowBook_ | 5 would move up to 4 and the new ones would occupy 5 and 6 |
| 20:38.22 | CowBook_ | this is vertical positioning |
| 20:38.54 | Kargor | you can reanchor and resize / scale everything via lua |
| 20:39.03 | CowBook_ | ok nm |
| 20:39.06 | CowBook_ | i know all this |
| 20:39.12 | CowBook_ | it's so not worth even discussing :P |
| 20:40.39 | pewpewarrows | So, apparently |
| 20:41.09 | Aii | CowBook_: probably means the contents were anchored in a container that had a CENTER or RIGHT anchor set |
| 20:41.15 | pewpewarrows | the Open RvR Ruleset is leaning towards rvr areas everywhere, and the complete elimination of the chicken mechanic except for the starting areas |
| 20:44.49 | Aii | so basically, WoW pvp server |
| 20:44.57 | Aii | ganking anywhere but the beginning |
| 20:46.53 | pewpewarrows | yeah |
| 20:48.14 | Aii | all the more reason to roll Core then |
| 20:52.17 | pewpewarrows | leaving work, be on later |
| 20:52.22 | `Zypher | thank you Aii |
| 20:52.25 | `Zypher | I want to roll core too |
| 20:52.45 | Aii | what am i being thanked for? o.o |
| 20:53.06 | `Zypher | o someone agrees with my opinion |
| 20:53.09 | `Zypher | so I thank them |
| 20:57.30 | Kaelten | is askano the real author of xpstatus? |
| 20:57.58 | Aii | who what where? |
| 20:58.22 | Kaelten | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/xp_rp_tracker/ |
| 20:58.22 | Kaelten | third time that addons been uploaded |
| 20:58.31 | Kaelten | first two where copied pasted from the guys website |
| 20:58.35 | Aii | sec |
| 20:58.54 | Aii | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rossbach/warhammer/ |
| 20:58.55 | Kaelten | not sure if he's the legit author or not |
| 20:58.56 | Aii | there's the website |
| 20:59.01 | Aii | unfortunately his About page is blank :P |
| 20:59.08 | Kaelten | right, but who is askanko |
| 20:59.10 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 20:59.14 | Kaelten | wasn't he in here earlier? |
| 21:00.00 | Kaelten | ckknight: do you know? |
| 21:00.17 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 21:00.22 | Kaelten | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/xp_rp_tracker/ |
| 21:00.25 | Kaelten | its back |
| 21:00.28 | ckknight | oh yea, same guy |
| 21:00.30 | ckknight | approve that one |
| 21:00.36 | Kaelten | zyuu already did |
| 21:00.39 | ckknight | I'll approve it |
| 21:00.41 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:00.50 | Kaelten | but I wanted to make sure that it was actually the right author this time |
| 21:00.50 | Kaelten | heh |
| 21:01.00 | ckknight | yea, check the user page, it shows email |
| 21:01.10 | ckknight | (for moderators, at least) |
| 21:01.33 | Aii | yeah, but I didn't know what the real author's email was |
| 21:01.39 | Aii | didnt see it listed anywhere on the website :P |
| 21:02.26 | ckknight | his website was rossbach |
| 21:02.29 | ckknight | his email was srochbach |
| 21:02.34 | ckknight | also, I had emailed him back and forth |
| 21:02.39 | Aii | ah |
| 21:02.53 | Aii | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/xp_rp_tracker/ <-- Image in images section broken for anyone else? |
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| 21:03.28 | ckknight | Kaelten: thumbnail system's down |
| 21:03.45 | tronned | allo everyone (hi bela!) |
| 21:03.53 | ckknight | howdy, tronned |
| 21:04.34 | Kaelten | ckknight: um... is not |
| 21:04.52 | ckknight | Kaelten: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/xp_rp_tracker/ |
| 21:06.17 | Kargor | no ckk |
| 21:06.20 | Kargor | thats me |
| 21:06.32 | Kargor | my nick is already in use in your system ^^ |
| 21:06.35 | ckknight | Kargor: right, aren't you the same guy? |
| 21:06.45 | ckknight | I'm confused |
| 21:07.28 | Kargor | look at the lua code, there you can find my email |
| 21:07.34 | ckknight | Kargor: are you Ashkanko? |
| 21:07.38 | ckknight | I assumed you are |
| 21:07.46 | Kargor | yes i am |
| 21:07.58 | ckknight | alright |
| 21:08.00 | ckknight | so we're all good |
| 21:08.12 | ckknight | also: multiple handles is hella confusing |
| 21:08.15 | ckknight | I'm ckknight everywhere |
| 21:08.29 | Kargor | the account kargor is already in use, sorry ck |
| 21:08.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:08.40 | ckknight | I'll take a look |
| 21:09.50 | ckknight | nah, sorry, he's active 3 weeks ago |
| 21:09.59 | ckknight | so can't steal it away |
| 21:11.09 | Frank349 | I can't find a function to get a table with all the zones. GetFlightMasterData only returns those with a flight master. :/ |
| 21:11.12 | Aii | I <3 my name :D |
| 21:11.38 | Aii | Frank349: Might not be a function, but there's probably a table defined somewhere |
| 21:13.16 | Kargor | the flight master is bugged as hell, you can fly to points which you should not be able to reach ;P |
| 21:14.10 | Aii | the UI isn't the most secure atm |
| 21:14.18 | Aii | but im not going to go too much more into that |
| 21:14.45 | Kargor | sky are you ingame ? |
| 21:16.04 | Aii | Frank349: http://waruidev.pastey.net/94287 |
| 21:16.19 | Aii | there's the zone ids at least |
| 21:16.27 | Kargor | the funny thing is, if you are fighting in reikwald |
| 21:16.52 | Kargor | you can just "teleport" to the city entrance, killing playes just leaving the city |
| 21:16.55 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.07 | Kargor | ähh 46 not 36 |
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| 21:23.59 | Frank349 | Aii: How did you get those IDs? I mean what happens if Mythic decides to change Praag's ID? |
| 21:24.33 | Aii | Frank349: it's defined in worldmapwindow.lua |
| 21:24.36 | Aii | but it's a local variable |
| 21:24.41 | Aii | so you can't access it from your files |
| 21:25.16 | Frank349 | ok :/ |
| 21:26.35 | Kargor | http://waruidev.pastey.net/94288 flightmaster.lua from latest beta build |
| 21:27.08 | Deron | Are flights instant or not, btw? |
| 21:27.37 | Deron | Are they like teleports to other zones or do you actually fly on a creature? |
| 21:27.42 | tronned | small cutscene/loading screen for flights |
| 21:27.48 | Deron | Okay :S |
| 21:27.50 | Kargor | they were instant |
| 21:27.59 | Deron | I really liked the flying in WOW |
| 21:28.04 | Kargor | no no |
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| 21:28.12 | Deron | cause you got to see the zones =) |
| 21:28.13 | tronned | Flying in WoW was a good excuse to make a sammich |
| 21:28.17 | Kargor | just 5 seconds, then you get the loading screen |
| 21:28.39 | Deron | I guess that's invidual then... |
| 21:28.44 | Kargor | like you are travelling via zeppelin in wow |
| 21:29.05 | Deron | but I can agree to that it gets boring after a while |
| 21:30.14 | Deron | but i like the scenery in WoW, so that kinda flight system was nice... anyway i was mainly asking about it so that iw ould know if you could code a flighttimer |
| 21:30.18 | Deron | would* |
| 21:31.17 | Kargor | there is no need for |
| 21:32.01 | Kargor | the reason i had stopped ui modding in warhammer was not that i got banned, it was the game itself |
| 21:36.46 | Frank349 | Kargor: thx for the pastey. I have what I want with: EA_InteractionFlightMasterWindow.ZoneButtonNameLookup |
| 21:37.41 | Kargor | are you revamping the bugged flightmaster window ? ^^ |
| 21:39.45 | Frank349 | I'd like to, yeah. :x But I didn't start anything yet, I'm still playing with the API. |
| 21:41.19 | Frank349 | But maybe Mythic is going to make a better version, I don't know. The current really sucks. |
| 21:41.23 | Frank349 | *current one |
| 21:42.25 | Kargor | there wont be a "better" version ;P |
| 21:43.19 | Eonan | Question...is it possible to take the way damage is displayed now (over character that damage is dealt to) and move it to a central area (ie Scrolling Combat Text)? |
| 21:45.21 | Kargor | ckknight why are you listing out alle non-local function from the warhammer interface ? you should keep in mind that it is possible to deactive addons, even mythic ones. |
| 21:45.44 | Kargor | deactivate |
| 21:45.54 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:46.00 | ckknight | just got everything from _G |
| 21:46.17 | Kargor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.42 | Kargor | there is also an option, where you can select custom ui |
| 21:47.12 | Kargor | that means that the whole ui is loaded from a directory, all mythic addons are disabled |
| 21:50.56 | `Zypher | Aii: should probably point people to http://developer.nvidia.com/object/photoshop_dds_plugins.html |
| 21:51.05 | `Zypher | for .dds in photoshop |
| 21:51.42 | Aii | `Zypher: wiki it :P |
| 21:52.39 | Aii | Eonan: see http://war.curseforge.com/projects/penguin/ |
| 21:53.21 | Aii | (the short answer is, yes, it's possible) |
| 21:53.50 | Eonan | Thanks Aii thats what I was looking for |
| 21:55.53 | Kaelten | Kargor: ok I fixed the thumbnail script its working now |
| 21:56.35 | Kargor | thx |
| 21:58.36 | smcn | are the CE beta servers separate from the "real" beta servers? |
| 21:59.00 | Aii | smcn: sorta kinda not really |
| 21:59.09 | Aii | or more like, "yes and no" |
| 21:59.20 | smcn | well, i guess my question is are there servers that are up ATM :P all the ce ones are down until friday |
| 21:59.22 | Aii | there are the elder servers than the CE beta servers |
| 21:59.24 | Aii | yes |
| 21:59.25 | Aii | there are |
| 21:59.29 | Aii | I'm sitting in one atm |
| 21:59.44 | Kargor | in europe there arent any elder servers |
| 21:59.55 | Kargor | they arent even ce servers up yet ;P |
| 21:59.59 | Kargor | there |
| 22:00.55 | Deron | ckknight: Did you wrote FuBar too? :O |
| 22:01.03 | ckknight | sure did |
| 22:01.12 | ckknight | Deron: among other things |
| 22:01.14 | ckknight | ~ckknight |
| 22:01.15 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself as well as the Rock framework, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 22:01.20 | Deron | How many projects have you created? |
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| 22:01.46 | Nyborek | hey |
| 22:01.47 | Deron | I mean... |
| 22:01.56 | smcn | lol |
| 22:02.05 | Deron | do you like code add-ons for a living? :P |
| 22:02.16 | ckknight | not for a living |
| 22:02.17 | Deron | again thank you |
| 22:02.19 | ckknight | well, I work for curse.com now |
| 22:02.23 | ckknight | I do website stuff mostly |
| 22:02.33 | Deron | can't believe how you can keep so many balls in the air |
| 22:02.34 | ckknight | Deron: projects including libraries or just addons? |
| 22:02.46 | Deron | including libraries |
| 22:03.04 | ckknight | um, 50-60? |
| 22:03.06 | ckknight | probably more |
| 22:03.44 | smcn | aii: i put up a drycoded version of whinyspelltimer at http://whinyspelltimer.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ if you're interested, i may have fixed the "bars smaller than the text" problem among other things :P |
| 22:03.46 | Deron | that truly is inspiring :) |
| 22:04.14 | Deron | what did you work with before you started working at curse then? |
| 22:04.23 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 22:04.25 | Deron | I guess it had something to do with programming aleast |
| 22:04.26 | ckknight | since February 2006 |
| 22:04.34 | ckknight | I went to work for curse in February 2008 |
| 22:04.50 | Deron | okay |
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| 22:07.19 | Deron | have you worked as a porgrammer professionally? sorry if it's private, then i will stop... |
| 22:07.31 | Deron | programmer* sorry |
| 22:08.24 | Kaelten | he's a noob! |
| 22:08.29 | ckknight | yea, I had one _real_ job before this, working for a professor I had |
| 22:08.40 | ckknight | most of my stuff is various hobby projects |
| 22:09.08 | Deron | okay :) |
| 22:09.19 | Deron | thanks anyway |
| 22:09.32 | Deron | It's getting late over here too... |
| 22:09.37 | Deron | see you guys tomorrow... |
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| 22:53.26 | `Zypher | quick question |
| 22:53.42 | `Zypher | <EventHandler event="OnLButtonDown" |
| 22:53.52 | `Zypher | is there an event for the center mouse wheel? |
| 22:55.36 | smcn | there's OnMouseWheel, do you mean the button press? |
| 22:55.55 | `Zypher | no OnMouseWheel is what I want |
| 22:55.56 | `Zypher | thanks |
| 22:56.51 | smcn | k, well i found OnMButtonDown too in case you need it ;) |
| 22:58.45 | smcn | oh, and it passes the arguements to the function: x, y, delta, flags - delta < 0 = mousewheel down, delta > 0 = mousewheel up |
| 23:00.51 | Kargor | i will put the ui decompilation on my web page when i finished with renaming all files. maybe it would help you |
| 23:01.54 | smcn | i've just been using search in files in ultraedit, i do the same thing with wow even with filenames :p |
| 23:04.22 | Kargor | ultraedt is not an open source tool ;P |
| 23:05.33 | smcn | yeah but i have a free license upgrades for life and it's good :p |
| 23:06.50 | `Zypher | o sorry, I can already extract all the files, with filenames |
| 23:06.59 | `Zypher | I just hadn't opened them all |
| 23:08.43 | Kargor | can you give me your dictonary ? |
| 23:08.59 | `Zypher | its not mine to give away |
| 23:09.19 | `Zypher | im learning these things :| |
| 23:10.29 | Kargor | the files in the myp files are hashed, if you dont have a dictonary you cant extract them with the real file name, so what is your problem to post your dictonary ? |
| 23:13.42 | `Zypher | i didn |
| 23:13.56 | `Zypher | didnt* make the program someone I know did and they let me use it |
| 23:14.04 | `Zypher | I don't have permission to give it away |
| 23:14.46 | `Zypher | however I can give you this |
| 23:14.47 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3024797_cplor/2EAC2F37_7334D5AB775392DA.xml |
| 23:16.40 | Kargor | thx |
| 23:17.57 | `Zypher | I think all the .myps have those files in them |
| 23:18.00 | `Zypher | thats for interface.myp |
| 23:18.14 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3024527_v2n5y/FC6F6C30_A535215331147EAB.xml |
| 23:18.15 | `Zypher | thats data |
| 23:18.47 | `Zypher | http://boxstr.com/files/3024961_myobx/8F820D86_830065537173B776.xml |
| 23:18.50 | `Zypher | thats art |
| 23:18.56 | `Zypher | and I think art covers bother art and art2 |
| 23:19.05 | `Zypher | both* |
| 23:19.17 | Kargor | no in the myp files, there are not any filenames, just hashes |
| 23:20.05 | Kargor | in my programm, i can calculate a hash for a given name ... but this function is not "injektiv" |
| 23:20.38 | `Zypher | since I have no idea what you mean, all I can say is that I took those xml files directly from each .myp |
| 23:22.19 | Kargor | k you give me a file name, i can tell you how the hash looks like, but if you give me a hash value, i cant tell you the filename ... that is a mathematic function ... in german you call such function as: nicht injektiv |
| 23:23.33 | `Zypher | gotcha |
| 23:25.17 | `Zypher | I'm really hoping for 3.4 on friday |
| 23:25.19 | `Zypher | :< |
| 23:25.46 | Addrar | would be nice |
| 23:26.02 | Kargor | i am relly hoping that this awful game never reach the subscriber numbers of age of conan |
| 23:26.15 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 23:26.19 | `Zypher | I think most people here like the game :< |
| 23:26.31 | ckknight | `Zypher: I'm neutral |
| 23:27.00 | Aii | Kargor: it's not a bijection, is what you're looking for |
| 23:27.01 | `Zypher | bah I wouldn't play a game I don't enjoy |
| 23:27.03 | Aii | it doesn't go both ways |
| 23:27.21 | Kargor | hashes are never a bijection ^^ |
| 23:27.26 | Aii | precisely |
| 23:27.42 | Aii | otherwise they wouldn't be hashes |
| 23:28.20 | Kargor | no no, hashes are not surjective, thats the problem |
| 23:28.35 | Kargor | that has nothing to do with "injektiv" |
| 23:29.16 | Aii | you've completely lost me then. |
| 23:29.43 | Aii | because your explanation above was essentially explaining that hashes aren't reversible. |
| 23:29.50 | Aii | which is why they're not bijections. |
| 23:30.16 | Kargor | do you know the definition of bijections ? |
| 23:30.49 | Aii | yes. |
| 23:31.19 | Aii | A function f is bijective if and only if its inverse relation f-1 is a function. In that case, f-1 is also a bijection. |
| 23:31.26 | Aii | ^ The wikipedia definition, which is the same one I use. |
| 23:31.33 | Kargor | no no |
| 23:32.25 | Aii | although, if you're just arguing that you don't care about onto, sure |
| 23:32.46 | Aii | if "injektiv" is meaning injective in the one-to-one sense |
| 23:32.47 | Kargor | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijektivit%C3%A4t |
| 23:33.03 | Aii | but that's just nitpicking at the absolutes of bijection |
| 23:33.31 | Aii | for working purposes, I think we're trying to convey the same basic concept. |
| 23:33.41 | Aii | Namely, hashes aren't reversible. |
| 23:33.46 | Kargor | even the german wikipedia site has no clue about what the are talling |
| 23:34.03 | Aii | I'm more inclined to believe you're just ranting and rambling. :P |
| 23:35.39 | Aii | my *guess* however |
| 23:36.26 | Kargor | you can create hash functions that are injectiv |
| 23:36.27 | Aii | is that injektiv translates to injective (as the homonym would imply) which means that for something to be "injektiv", it must have exactly one input that maps to any given output |
| 23:37.28 | Aii | such that given the output, and asked what input produced it, there would be a unique answer which you could give with no uncertainty |
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| 23:38.11 | `Zypher | I don't understand why my processor's temp fluctuates so much |
| 23:38.36 | Aii | anywho, im heading home from work. back in a bit |
| 23:44.39 | Kargor | k iam sorry, it is almost 2 A.M in europe, i have swapped the definition for injective and surjective ... hash functions are not injective ... i apologize. see you tomorrow. |
| 23:44.56 | Aiiane | hehe, it's not a problem :) |
| 23:44.59 | Aiiane | (and back :) |
| 23:45.13 | Kargor | see you tomorrow ... bye |
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| 23:58.58 | Aiiane | brb, restarting system |
