| 00:08.00 | herlo | :) |
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| 02:41.38 | harleypig | I have in both my local ubuntu box and rmote centos server the line "[[ -f /etc/bash_completion ]] && source /etc/bash_completion" |
| 02:42.02 | harleypig | It works fine on my ubuntu box, but the centos server dies on that line and won't source anything else in my bashrc. Any pointers? |
| 02:44.25 | herlo | use [ instead of [[?? |
| 02:44.51 | herlo | the [[ is a built-in on newer systems, not sure what version of centos you are using |
| 02:54.22 | harleypig | it works on the version I have on centos |
| 02:54.47 | harleypig | Apparently I sh ouldn't be sourcing /etc/bash_completion, just /etc/profile.d/bash-completion |
| 02:54.52 | herlo | harleypig: so wait? it works or doesn't work? |
| 02:55.43 | harleypig | my .bashrc works now, without the line I posted above. |
| 02:55.56 | harleypig | however, it doesn't seem to be working on my ubuntu box now ... *sigh* |
| 03:54.33 | josephpagoda | mindjuju: you around? |
| 03:54.46 | herlo | josephpagoda: try around 9-10am |
| 03:54.51 | herlo | he's usually around then |
| 03:55.08 | josephpagoda | kk |
| 03:55.47 | herlo | josephpagoda: but how are things? |
| 03:55.59 | herlo | josephpagoda: also, CmdrTaco resigned from Slashdot. Things are a changing: http://meta.slashdot.org/story/11/08/25/1245200/Rob-CmdrTaco-Malda-Resigns-From-Slashdot |
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| 05:11.59 | josephpagoda | i heard about that |
| 05:12.03 | josephpagoda | things are good |
| 05:12.37 | herlo | josephpagoda: took you long enough |
| 05:12.40 | herlo | :P |
| 05:12.49 | josephpagoda | sry |
| 05:12.53 | josephpagoda | been coding |
| 05:12.57 | josephpagoda | putting together an installer for a web app |
| 05:14.48 | herlo | no worries |
| 05:14.53 | herlo | just chuckling |
| 05:15.21 | herlo | josephpagoda: I need to get some sleep now, so it seems altogether ironic |
| 05:15.52 | josephpagoda | :-P |
| 05:15.55 | josephpagoda | take care |
| 05:18.21 | herlo | you too |
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| 15:14.46 | josephpagoda | mindjuju, you around? |
| 15:15.53 | mindjuju | hi josephpagoda, i'm around for a couple of minutes have a 930 appt, what up? |
| 15:17.17 | josephpagoda | mind if I PM? |
| 15:17.22 | mindjuju | sure |
| 15:17.49 | mindjuju | it'll cost you $2.99 for the first minute, $1 for each additional minute |
| 15:17.51 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:19.42 | josephpagoda | :-P |
| 15:25.56 | herlo | lol |
| 15:29.49 | josephpagoda | so personally, i want to volunteer, and others in my company are willing to do so, but I'm wanting to get everyone's opinion on having Tyler Flint keynote. |
| 15:30.14 | josephpagoda | If you havent heard him, he was in a podcast on LinuxBasix about how we're messing with open source and such |
| 15:30.27 | josephpagoda | i think a similar topic at a keynote would be of interest to the community |
| 15:30.46 | josephpagoda | http://blog.pagodabox.com/pagoda-box-featured-episode-060-linuxbasix-podcast/ |
| 15:31.02 | herlo | shhhhhhh! |
| 15:31.05 | herlo | :P |
| 15:31.21 | herlo | josephpagoda: sounds like a great possible keynote! |
| 15:31.32 | josephpagoda | ?? |
| 15:31.35 | josephpagoda | sshhhh? |
| 15:31.39 | josephpagoda | am I being noisy? |
| 15:31.52 | herlo | notes you are the only one not heeding my statement |
| 15:32.09 | josephpagoda | what statement is this? (i joined late...) |
| 15:32.15 | herlo | shhhhhhhh! It's supposed to be quiet in here! :) |
| 15:32.22 | josephpagoda | ... |
| 15:32.25 | josephpagoda | is confused. |
| 15:32.26 | herlo | josephpagoda: haha, not serious |
| 15:32.37 | herlo | lol, as you normally are, sir |
| 15:35.46 | josephpagoda | grrr |
| 15:35.49 | josephpagoda | :-P |
| 15:38.09 | herlo | lol |
| 15:40.05 | josephpagoda | next conference we both attend, i challenge you to a duel! a manly game of intellect! a game of CHESS! |
| 15:45.57 | shalkie | Damn, I was going to volunteer the broadswords too.. |
| 15:46.02 | shalkie | puts the shinies away... |
| 15:46.34 | josephpagoda | maybe if it ends up being a stalemate shalkie |
| 15:46.35 | shalkie | mindjuju: When are you planning CFP? |
| 15:56.32 | josephpagoda | call for pickles? |
| 15:59.52 | josephpagoda | :-P |
| 16:00.31 | fugue88 | call for players. |
| 16:00.32 | fugue88 | for chess. |
| 16:00.49 | fugue88 | It's for the CFP event. |
| 16:00.55 | fugue88 | Which is Chess for Programmers. |
| 16:01.00 | fugue88 | So a CFP for CFP. |
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| 16:03.16 | josephpagoda | :P |
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| 17:48.26 | JeremyR | Hello everyone... I'm curious, which do you like more, Ubuntu or CentOS for you web server? |
| 17:50.17 | fugue88 | Yay, flamewar! |
| 17:50.21 | fugue88 | JeremyR: Gentoo. |
| 17:50.22 | fugue88 | :) |
| 17:51.12 | Nafai | fugue88: way to show company spirit |
| 17:51.31 | fugue88 | :) |
| 17:51.59 | JeremyR | No flames here. Just wanted to hear what people thought of those two flavors. |
| 17:52.39 | fugue88 | Some of the bigger, more popular packages (like e-mail servers, possibly also Apache) tend to have very customized config frameworks in Ubuntu. |
| 17:53.13 | fugue88 | So, you wouldn't normally edit the configs directly, but edit some other files, run an update-<program>-config script which would assemble the *real* config. |
| 17:53.24 | fugue88 | Kind of clever, but I don't like the implementation at all. |
| 17:53.55 | Nafai | fugue88: in many cases, those come from Debian |
| 17:54.01 | fugue88 | On the other hand, updates are very easy, and using an LTS is a great, stable base. |
| 17:54.05 | JeremyR | You'd prefer to get your hands on the actual configs then? |
| 17:54.06 | fugue88 | Nafai: Yes, that's right. |
| 17:54.12 | fugue88 | JeremyR: Almost always. |
| 17:54.30 | fugue88 | JeremyR: Or be able to setup my own, similar system, but based on makefiles and automatic rebuilding. |
| 17:54.55 | fugue88 | Ubuntu is also fairly nice to use with chroots and VMs, and cloud environments. |
| 17:55.06 | fugue88 | I haven't used CentOS, so I can't make any comparisons. |
| 17:55.30 | Nafai | fugue88: ooo, that reminds me, I should ask you for an opinion on how to implement some changes to one of the tools I use to manage my personal configs |
| 17:56.28 | JeremyR | Interesting, I'm more familiar with CentOS. I do like it, however, I can't give a reasonable argument to use or not use it. |
| 17:56.49 | fugue88 | JeremyR: I think the biggest problem with that custom config setup, is that when you want to change a setting, and the program's main config says "don't edit this, it's generated" |
| 17:56.59 | fugue88 | you then have to chase down where the source bits are, |
| 17:57.09 | fugue88 | then figure out the name of the script to run to update everything. |
| 17:57.27 | fugue88 | It doesn't seem to be documented very well, but it's possible I just haven't figured out how they document those things. |
| 17:57.57 | fugue88 | JeremyR: If you're familiar with CentOS, and have no reason to not use it, might as well use it. :) |
| 17:58.09 | fugue88 | Unless you *wanted* to try something new. :) |
| 17:58.32 | Nafai | JeremyR: One strike against CentOS for me compared to Ubuntu is that it doesn't ship a very new version of Python and it's kind of hacky to install a newer version in parallel |
| 17:58.41 | JeremyR | That's my plan, I'd like to try new flavors. |
| 17:58.46 | Nafai | JeremyR: So, if your web app is in Python, that's an issue. |
| 17:59.07 | Nafai | I'm much more familiar with Debian/Ubuntu, but CentOS, in general, seems fine. |
| 17:59.07 | JeremyR | No Python here.. ha |
| 17:59.26 | fugue88 | Ubuntu's current LTS has 2.6, not sure if a backported newer version is easily available. Postgres would be 8.4, which is good, but 9.x rocks. |
| 17:59.35 | fugue88 | 2.6 of python. |
| 18:00.05 | JeremyR | I really don't have a reason to switch anything, I just want to be well rounded. A lot of people use Ubuntu so I figured that would be the natural progression. |
| 18:02.49 | Nafai | definitely a good choice to be familiar with |
| 18:03.21 | Nafai | fugue88: The version of CentOS I have to use for some contract work only has 2.4 |
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| 18:27.50 | fozzmoo | Yeah- CentOS sucks that way. Perl developers have been griping about it forever. |
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| 18:30.33 | JeremyR | From what it sounds... if you are just sticking to the simple stuff CentOS is more than enough. But for some applications that require specific technologies another server might be better. |
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