IRC log for #utos on 20110602

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00:19.01harleypigGot some weird swag at work today ... http://goo.gl/photos/3oWNZBPJnh
00:25.22macnewboldwow harleypig, that brings back memories
00:30.31macnewboldi think my dad still has a few boxes of those in his closet - still actively used them (and had a drive for them in his main PC!) in the late 90's
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00:52.42harleypigheh ... not sure what cpanel was thinking when they did that though ... they already have a reputation of building on old tech (perl 5.6?!)
00:53.59fugue88harleypig: Hey, I heard you were building something on an 8088 platform.
00:54.14fugue88I told the person that was a terrible rumor, you must be building on 4004.
00:54.20fugue88:D
00:54.38fugue88Oh, "they."  I thought you said yourself, harleypig.
00:55.00fugue88puts the dunce cap on and stands in the corner
01:03.36harleypigheh
01:04.02harleypigI'd have chosen a 10" inch floppy disk myself ...
01:14.55fugue88harleypig: You are such a 4.75-upper.
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01:17.34harleypig...
01:19.26harleypigI'm not catching the reference
01:21.08harleypigwow ... the wikipedia article on floppy disk doesn't have any info for 10" floppies.
01:21.22fugue88harleypig: You're more than a one-upper.
01:21.31fugue88You jumped from 5.25 inch to 10 inch.
01:21.44harleypigooookaaay
01:21.45harleypig:>
01:21.55fugue88Yeah, not my best...  :)
01:22.01fugue88Not my worst, either.
01:22.11harleypigNow I can't get a certain Aerosmith song out of myhead though
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15:08.16herlomorning to you all!
15:09.57fugue88herlo: nong
15:10.01fugue88:D
15:10.29herloeh
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16:45.45Gateg'morning
16:45.55herlohi Gate
16:49.15Gatehow goes it herlo?
16:49.47herloGate: it goes. Goose is stalled due to some technical issues
16:50.01herlobut I'm getting work again, so I'm excited for that
16:50.09herlostarts up week after next for at least 3 weeks
16:50.18herlothen, the 4th of july
16:50.55Gateherlo: what kind of technical issues?
16:50.57herlothen probably 3 more weeks of work in July and hopefully another week in August.
16:51.04Gatesweet!
16:51.32herloGate: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/buildsys/2011-June/003668.html
16:51.36herlothat one, specifically
16:51.59herloI'm trying to figure out what's going on, but nothing is leading me down a road of goodness yet
16:53.20Gateyeah, you lost me a koji. :)
16:53.42herloGate: heard of OpenSuse Build Service?
16:54.02Gateyes, and I googled koji and found a nice little wiki :)
16:54.13herlowell, koji is the originator of that idea in my mind
16:54.20herlokoji came first, then OBS
16:55.46goozbachherlo: maybe we should CC gooseproject group on things like this to help keep a record
16:57.19herlogoozbach: okay
16:57.29herloI can make a list for that
17:04.36harleypigI'm working on a git repository that includes some python scripts.  Can I tell git to ignore the .pyc and .pyo files?
17:05.09goozbachharleypig: echo *.py[co] >> .gitignore
17:05.11herlo.gitignore
17:05.17herlolol
17:05.30harleypigI know how to ignore in git ... I wanted to know if it was safe to ignore those files.
17:05.44herloyes
17:05.47herloI do it all the time
17:06.11harleypigthanks.  wasn't sure if those were just byte compiled versions or what
17:10.25herlothey are, no need to keep them in the repo since they are generated as neede
17:10.26herlod
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17:17.15harleypigdangit ... I keep typing pythong
17:19.28fugue88Freudian slip.
17:19.34fugue88Or Freudian thong.
17:30.30harleypigummm ... I don't really want to put a snake where a thong would go ...
17:31.40goozbachhoopsnake thong
17:32.43harleypigyou mean an ouroboros thong
17:32.46harleypig?
17:36.05goozbachyeah
17:36.10herloharleypig: did you find youarelistening.to because of space station on somafm.com?
17:36.13goozbachthink through how it would work
17:36.27goozbachstops before someone has a *OW*
17:36.58harleypigyou start with a long tube ...
17:37.25harleypigerr ... I meant to press backspace, not enter ...
17:37.51harleypigherlo: I think so
17:40.06herlosweet!
17:45.05harleypigthe deep thoughts channel is far too distracting
17:45.24herlolol
17:45.31herloI like secret agent
17:45.51herloand especially like Lush
17:46.22harleypigThe Command Center was fascinating to listen to last night ... I had some interesting dreams
17:46.41herlohehe
17:46.42herloI'm sure
17:49.13harleypigSuggested name for Bieber's new perfume: La Nuit De L'Emission
17:52.35goozbachin other news IPMI is cool but complex
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17:58.00shalkieherlo: I like Lush as well. Today Indie Pop is pretty catchy too.
17:59.10harleypighttp://www.soberinanightclub.com/2011/06/wedding-oops.html
17:59.24herloshalkie: usually somafm provides me a way to not listen to stuff with words. Otherwise, I get more distracted and ADD than I already am
18:05.54fozzmoogoozbach: I concur.
18:06.16shalkieHeh. I don't find it that distracting to have words.
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18:07.21herloshalkie: you would if you were me
18:07.24herlobut you are not me
18:32.20shalkieherlo: Tis a true statement you make.
18:34.49shalkieIt is probably worth probably worth pointing out that I don't find songs with lyrics to be distracting, talk radio is a very different matter if the topic is any good.
18:35.23macnewboldi can usually do fine to work to music with words, but not audiobooks
18:35.29macnewboldthough i love audiobooks while i'm driving
18:37.07harleypigarghh ... I can't remember ... function blech () { dosomething; somecommand $* ; domesomethingelse ; }  ... when calling 'blech one two three' shouldn't 'one two three' be passed to somecommand?
18:37.35harleypigerr ... bash script
18:41.58redbeard2yup
18:42.01shalkieharleypig: I believe that should work.
18:45.00harleypigit doesn't appear to be working
18:45.43harleypignm ... logging out and back in solved it
18:45.53harleypigand apparently I needed to use "$@"
18:47.45fozzmooredbeard2: HI!
18:47.51redbeard2hey fozzmoo!
18:47.52fozzmoowaves vigorously at redbeard2
18:47.57redbeard2how goes, duder?
18:48.05fozzmooOh. Same old.
18:48.16fozzmooPretty good, I guess.
18:48.18fozzmooYou?
19:22.52fozzmoohttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1393434/Forgot-charge-iPod-beach-Just-plug-solar-powered-bikini-.html
19:23.58herloredbeard2: !! hi
19:24.20redbeard2hey herlo
19:24.28redbeard2sorry, i've been distracted
19:24.38herlohow so?
19:24.42herloand why are you apologizing?
19:24.46redbeard2i've been without internets since monday night, and i finally got a new dsl modem
19:24.58herlooh, that sucketh
19:25.04redbeard2sorry to fozzmoo, who asked me a question, which i did not answer
19:25.18redbeard2monday was not my favorite day ever
19:25.52redbeard2i was finally able to get my phone to act as an AP on tuesday, but freenode wouldn't let me log on from that connection
19:26.01herloAT&T?
19:26.08redbeard2t-mobile
19:26.22herlosrsly? I'm on my t-mobile all the time. Sadness
19:26.24fozzmooredbeard2: NP
19:26.51redbeard2i kept getting errors that i needed sasl to log in
19:27.16herloredbeard2: just for tethering?
19:27.48redbeard2it specifically said the t-mobile network that i was coming from required sasl to authenticate
19:27.54redbeard2very strange
19:28.58redbeard2re: tethering. my phone can tether or act as a wireless AP. and it doesn't need to be rooted. very exciting.
19:31.34goozbachredbeard2: don't you have a server somewhere you can run irssi/weechat/et.al in a screen session?
19:33.10redbeard2goozbach, i do, but i'm really rusty with irssi
19:33.31redbeard2i need to spend more time in it
19:35.01goozbachif you're rusty with irssi try weechat
19:35.15goozbachit's an awesome terminal irc client
19:41.05NafaiI'm pretty happy with weechat
19:41.24fozzmoomight be running weechat. Can't remember. :)
19:55.40shalkieI am also happy with weechat.
20:08.53harleypigarghh ... so, initscripts includes X11 files, even though I don't have X11 installed?! annoying as hell
20:09.51herloharleypig: RHEL5?
20:10.03harleypigherlo: worse ... CentOS5
20:10.05herlobecause I believe they decoupled that in RHEL6
20:10.15herloharleypig: yeah, same thing in essence
20:10.34harleypigyeah, except they are perpetually behind, and falling further behind with each release
20:11.16herloharleypig: they are at 5.6 right now, so it should be up-to-date last I looked
20:11.37harleypigYeah, I'm working with 5.6 version
20:11.45herlobesides, I don't think the word 'behind' is right
20:11.55harleypigyou're probably right
20:12.00herlowhile I agree that some of the stuff is outdated, it's a stable release
20:12.00harleypigI'm just being cranky
20:12.04herloyes, you are :)
20:12.14herlocrank it down a notch, mister!
20:12.17harleypigcrank me up baby!
20:12.19harleypig:D
20:12.20herlono
20:12.24herlo:P
20:14.05harleypighmmm ... I removed alsa-lib but etc/alsa remains ... can I safely delete that?
20:15.35herlodo an 'rpm -V /etc/alsa' to find out
20:15.41herloer sorr
20:15.45herlorpm -qf /etc/alsa
20:16.52harleypigoic ... is that recursive?
20:17.05harleypigor, iow, is it possible for a file under that to be owned by some other package?
20:17.14harleypig(it's not owned by anything atm)
20:17.43goozbachfiles can only be owned by one package at a time
20:17.47goozbachor no package at all
20:18.32herloharleypig: I was referring to the directory, but if there are files inside, you will need to check those as well
20:19.05harleypigwhat about directories ... rpm -qf / shows it's owned by filesystem, so I'm guessing ... thanks herlo.  That's what I wass beginning to think.
20:20.35Jayce^herlo: was just pointing out our twitter handles to jeremyhanks, he wants to sponsor the next project day
20:20.41Jayce^if you didn't see it
20:20.46Jayce^pokes mindjuju too
20:22.24fozzmooOw! I'm not mindjuju
20:22.43herloJayce^: mindjuju is the man for that :)
20:23.01Jayce^yeah, just wanted you to see too
20:23.08herlothat's great though!
20:23.49Jayce^haven't had any responses to mindjuju in a bit :) so need other people to hear
20:26.37fozzmoos/to/from/ ?
20:26.59Jayce^meh, yeah, preoccupied vs typing in here :)
20:27.23Jayce^one of those days where the boss comes in.. "Why does the cash report show a few hundred k low today?"..
20:27.29Jayce^ummm.. lemme check into that for you :)
20:27.55fozzmooYeah, don't poke mindjuju about that.
20:39.32mindjujuthx gents, have passed info via twitter
20:39.42mindjujuif anybody has direct contact info, i'll send him something proper
20:40.06mindjujujayce^, fozzmoo and herlo ^^
20:40.28fozzmooOw.
20:41.04herlomindjuju: for Jeremy?
20:41.08herloI'm sure I have it
20:41.14mindjujuyup, can send?
20:42.19herloyeah, just a minute
20:43.20herlomindjuju: sent
20:43.27Jayce^just call up doba and say you need to talk to him :)
20:43.27herloin a PM even :)
20:43.38herloThat may work
20:47.50Jayce^fyi fozzmoo, neybar is probably going to steal your toner from me
20:48.13fozzmooJayce^: Maybe you should use my label printer and make a label for my toner that has my name on it. :)
20:48.22Jayce^probably a good idea
20:55.56harleypigI'm gonna go see The Smurfs just cause Neil Patrick Harris is in it.
20:56.10harleypigerr ... wrong window ... but still applies
20:56.16jnbek|wclol
20:57.42goozbachsmurfs!
20:57.44goozbachawesome!
20:58.15herloyes, do that harleypig
20:58.32harleypigThanks.  I will.
20:58.57herlohehe
20:59.16harleypigNPH was on my list ... bugged the crap out of my ex-wife. :D I'm not even bi-curious, but it amused me to have him on my list.
21:00.07goozbachhe's not on my list but MJF is
21:00.15harleypigMichael J Fox?
21:00.23goozbachyup
21:00.38harleypigvaliantly refrains from making a sick joke
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21:02.09herlolol
21:10.25harleypigummm ... http://goo.gl/9nHC0
21:11.00jnbek|wcdang it, i knew i should have clicked that link....
21:11.33harleypigshould have?
21:12.12Jayce^jnbek|wc: you are seriously winning today :)
21:12.44jnbek|wcguess it's time to roll all my code live, eh?
21:12.56Jayce^oh yeah, but only if you touch signup
21:16.08harleypighttp://goo.gl/GdNUV Physicists claim to have figured out how to measure both sides of the single photon through an interferometer test ... i.e., non-interference of the wave ...
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