| 02:38.23 | macnewbold | josephnexus: there was someone who gave a talk on it at the last UTOSC, but i haven't seen them in #utos. You might try in #utah for a broader audience, i'm quite sure someone's done it. I've onyl used samba for windows shares. |
| 13:33.35 | herlo | morning all... |
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| 18:25.59 | shalkie | Morning herlo. Welcome back. |
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| 20:04.49 | herlo | shalkie: hi |
| 22:42.24 | shalkie | Anyone have experience using plone in a virtually hosted environment? Not VPSing, but using Apaches' virtualhost config? |
| 22:43.34 | shalkie | I want to use plone to serve multiple domains with different content. |
| 22:44.17 | shalkie | Kind of curious if there is anything that I should watch out for. |
| 22:45.52 | shalkie | is working on getting hackandbeer up and going. |
| 22:51.24 | herlo | why not just use something simpler than plone? |
| 22:51.37 | herlo | wordpress and drupal are easier to configure in my mind... |
| 22:58.46 | shalkie | I thought about using them. I just don't have any experience using either one of those solutions. |
| 22:59.05 | shalkie | Obviously I don't have any experience using plone either. ;-) |
| 23:03.17 | herlo | lol |
| 23:03.34 | herlo | shalkie: I would highly recommend wordpress then, it's very easy to get started |
| 23:04.18 | herlo | using vhosts for it is very simple if you decide to do the multisite install. That part is really the only tricky part, but you don't have to do a ton of vhost setups and what not |
| 23:04.58 | shalkie | Hmm.. It is using PHP. I have had bad experience with PHP. |
| 23:05.24 | shalkie | That was part of the appeal to plone. |
| 23:06.39 | shalkie | Plone doesn't actually look that bad the more I dig into the settings (famous last words). |
| 23:09.17 | herlo | hmm |
| 23:10.02 | herlo | PHP is pretty safe and there are plenty of people around to help with wordpress. I don't think plone has as much of a community, so getting support may be more challenging... |
| 23:11.54 | shalkie | The last time I was playing with zen cart I think, the logs were toasted, they got in from a misconfig. |
| 23:12.18 | shalkie | Granted that may not have been PHP itself, but it is something that I can't verify either. |
| 23:12.50 | shalkie | But we will give it a buzz. |
| 23:14.49 | herlo | ugh, zen cart sucketh |
| 23:19.30 | shalkie | Maybe. I didn't get very far with it. |
| 23:20.26 | herlo | do you want help setting up wordpress as a trial? It's literally a 5 minute setup (after getting mysql going) |
| 23:21.21 | shalkie | Maybe. I am going through it right now. The big thing for me right now is trying to figure out how to run multiple sites with it. One for the home site and another for hacknbeer. |
| 23:23.00 | shalkie | Can I just copy the /usr/share/wordpress structure to a different location and point apache there? I realize that I will need a seperate SQl database, but would that work? Do I need something else? |
| 23:28.39 | herlo | no, don't do that |
| 23:28.43 | herlo | hang on |
| 23:29.04 | herlo | shalkie: http://codex.wordpress.org/Create_A_Network |
| 23:29.23 | shalkie | But I already have and now the hax0rz have me! OH the humanity... |
| 23:29.26 | herlo | it's very easy, actually |
| 23:29.30 | herlo | lol |
| 23:29.30 | shalkie | grins |
| 23:29.54 | herlo | no extra db's required, this is how we run all the *.utos.org sites |
| 23:30.13 | herlo | blog, project-day, www, media, etc all run on one wordpress installation |
| 23:32.31 | shalkie | Okay, just installed wordpress-mu |
| 23:34.10 | herlo | uh, what? |
| 23:34.16 | herlo | wordpress-mu is *old* |
| 23:34.21 | herlo | where are you getting your information? |
| 23:34.50 | herlo | shalkie: ^^ |
| 23:36.29 | shalkie | Oh. I thought that mu was the multi version of wordpress. |
| 23:37.11 | shalkie | ewww... I see what you lmean. 2.9.2 |
| 23:37.26 | herlo | that was in v2.x. In 3.x it's all together |
| 23:37.39 | herlo | just download from the wordpress.org site and then read the instructions I gave |
| 23:37.48 | herlo | you could just upgrade -mu |
| 23:37.52 | shalkie | Oh well the good news is that I have just wordpress installed. |
| 23:38.01 | herlo | :) |
| 23:38.04 | herlo | what version? |
| 23:38.27 | shalkie | Fortunately I can install and remove software in a fast non-interactive fasion in Cent. |
| 23:38.31 | shalkie | 3.1.2-1 |
| 23:38.41 | herlo | yup |
| 23:38.51 | herlo | k, so now you should be good |
| 23:39.03 | herlo | though I highly recommend you look at doing wordpress from source |
| 23:39.45 | herlo | centos doesn't keep up with the latest patches all the time and it's nice to just upgrade wordpress with their auto-upgrade feature in the web interface |
| 23:40.58 | herlo | I think it might be able to be upgraded even if you installed via rpm, though I've not tried for some time |
| 23:43.06 | shalkie | It isn't Cent, it is in the epel repo. |
| 23:43.21 | shalkie | but it is behind too. |
| 23:43.43 | herlo | yeah |
| 23:44.12 | herlo | epel is at least 2 weeks out unless it's a security bug |
| 23:44.29 | herlo | s/at/generally speaking, at/ |
| 23:47.03 | shalkie | Sorry, it looks like it is current, 3.2 comes out in June. |
| 23:53.41 | herlo | yeah, okay |
| 23:53.48 | herlo | so how's it going with the multisite setup? |
| 23:55.29 | shalkie | curses out mysql for the sake of doing it... |