IRC log for #utos on 20101216

00:01.03shalkiefan freakin'tastic. I now have working DSL at home again. Can someone arrange for a good long rainstorm so we can really check it?
00:01.17shalkie~qwest--
00:01.48shalkie^ for starting this process on Monday and then leaving me in the dark yesterday.
00:02.19shalkie~karm qwest
00:02.24shalkie^arm^arma
00:02.30shalkie~karma qwest
00:02.31infobotqwest has karma of -10
00:03.00fugue88shalkie: My crummy ISP can beat up your crummy ISP.
00:03.02fugue88~karma comcast
00:03.02infobotcomcast has karma of -48
00:03.07fugue88:)
00:04.29shalkieYeah, well my crummy DSL provider can apparently beatup Utopia and keep them from getting to my house. And my ISP is actually XMission.
00:04.37shalkie~xmission++
00:04.45shalkie~karma xmission
00:04.45infobotxmission has karma of 9
00:05.26shalkieI have to admit that your crummy ISP does have impressive numbers.
00:05.32shalkie~karma AT&T
00:05.32infobotat&t has neutral karma
00:05.43shalkie~karma att
00:05.43infobotatt has neutral karma
00:05.53shalkie~at&t++
00:05.59shalkie^ For taking on L#
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01:12.26fugue88~at&t--
01:12.39fugue88For beginning to require Windows to activate new accounts.
01:12.46fugue88~xmission++
01:20.06shalkieponders the meaning of "net" neutrality
01:22.03fugue88shalkie: Yeah, my opinion (and that's all it is) has had to a a few 180s recently, with all the news about Comcast, L3, Netflix, Google, &c.
01:22.22fugue88I really wish I understood this hidden architecture of the web better.
01:50.26herlois thankful for his wireless tether when hotels can't figure out their wireless internet
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04:24.11shalkieis always thankfull for his wireless tether, as long as the cell company doesn't find out...
04:25.43shalkieHerlo: Speaking of which I got to rehash the same old "Why can't I tether but I can dongle?" discussion in a T-Mo store tonight. It is very nice of them to have raised the throtteling point to 5G...
04:25.55shalkie^tel^tle
04:30.01shalkieYou might find it amusing that he offered to do payments on a Sam Tablet. Oh and to sell me a Dongle for the laptop/netbook.
04:30.31shalkieOne of these days I want to go in and download a couple ISO images to my phone in front of a manager and see how that goes down.
04:30.49shalkieis getting punchy...
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10:00.44*** topic/#utos is utosc.com is out of commission, hard drives have arrived! Installation begins Saturday!!
13:30.34herlolol
13:30.43herloshalkie: you just need to root
13:31.01herloand get android-wifi-tether
13:31.08herloheads out to the TC
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14:46.04shalkieHerlo: I haven't done it to my G2, but the G1 gets packed along as a "USB Dongle"... Apparently T-Mo is sending strongly worded letters off to people they catch tethering through their phone.
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14:57.40herlothey have no control over it...
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15:15.33shalkieApparently they have some sort of control. It sounds like they are monitoring for agent headers and then trying to gouge you for a USB device and more money.
15:21.42shalkieI think it is crap. It is merely a means of gouging you for more cash and they can't spin it in a way that convinces me to do it.
15:44.30herlothey can look, but they can't stop me from doing it
15:45.17herlothey can only charge me for the bandwidth but I don't think they'll do it.  I think you are overly worried about it...
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15:48.26thaddeusqwishes he had logged on just a bit earlier to understand this whole conversation
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15:49.01herlothaddeusq: haha
16:46.49shalkieHeh. I am not claming innocence on the matter. In fact I pack my G1 for that issue specifcally. Why? Cause the G2 has snooper apps for T-Mo and I haven't rooted it yet.
16:47.36shalkieThis way when I get stuck in ATL they can't charge me the Surcharge to use their wifi network, that I get as part of my plan.
16:48.19shalkieAs far as I am concerned their throttleing is also BS.
16:50.18shalkieNice in the aspect that you hit your limit (no longer a gig, hooray) and you aren't just dataless, but still I wanted unlimited data. As long as I have unlimited data trying to restrict it sucks. Oh well.
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20:45.28herlounlimited data shouldn't have restrictions
20:45.37herlomy contract says unlimited data
20:46.14fugue88herlo: "unlimited" is a physical constant, equal to about 2 GiB/month.  Duh.
20:46.32herloheh, nope
20:46.36fugue88Oh, and pi==3.
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21:03.35shalkieYeah, as it turns out "unlimited == ( while [ datausage <= $planlimits ]; do $planlimits == ($numberdataplans * 5G ); checkagentheader; done ; else dataspeed == snailslow)
21:39.23herloshalkie: then I would execute $(killall t-mobile)
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