IRC log for #utos on 20101210

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01:09.26shalkieWhile paying my tmobile account I always want to ask if I can put it on my phone bill like purchases made on the phone... Hmmm...
01:09.53herloheh
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05:43.34fugue88herlo: I don't like trying to solve puzzles when I'm also trying to solve problems.  This is the reason I don't use Ruby.  :P
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13:27.11herlofugue88: lol
13:28.16herlofugue88: git isn't a puzzle, it's simple as long as you follow certain rules.  It's like Linux IMO.  It lets you shoot yourself in the foot so you can actually take advantage of its amazingly powerful toolchain.
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21:13.35fugue88~comcast--
21:13.41fugue88~karma comcast
21:13.41infobotcomcast has karma of -43
21:13.53fugue88~comcast--
21:14.00fugue88~karma comcast
21:14.00infobotcomcast has karma of -44
21:14.02fugue88k
21:14.12fugue88Thanks for 2 outages today, comcast.
21:18.03shalkie~comcast--
21:18.13shalkieCause I feel your pain...
21:18.28shalkieEmpathicaly, not emprically.
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23:04.55harleypigAnyone know of a way to make my android phone work as a bluetooth remote for my tv?
23:09.00herlo78
23:09.05herlo45
23:09.09herlo33
23:09.34harleypig16
23:09.45DexterTheDragoncracks herlo's safe
23:09.48fugue88harleypig: Wrong.  Obviously.
23:09.55harleypig?
23:10.12harleypigRecord player speeds went 78, 45, 33, 16.
23:10.20herloexcept those are just record player speeds :)
23:10.22DexterTheDragonharleypig: I saw this yesterday http://lifehacker.com/5709967/the-best-remote-apps-for-your-android
23:10.29herloharleypig: exactly
23:11.31harleypigDexterTheDragon: reading
23:12.01harleypigoooo ... a roku remote ..
23:14.01harleypigunfortunately, nothing for a tv remote.
23:14.08harleypigor even just a generic bluetooth remote
23:17.54goozbachHOLY CRAP!
23:18.09harleypigOnly if it's the popes!
23:18.15goozbachrhel6 epel has the latest version of request tracker available
23:18.25goozbachno more CPAN dependancy hell
23:18.26harleypigHOLY CRAP!
23:18.28goozbachnice!
23:19.36herlogoozbach: I also learned that epel has python26 available, so trac 0.12 could totally work too :)
23:19.46herloepel5, that is
23:20.04goozbachherlo: fedora-infra has a test box running latest trac
23:20.09goozbachfrom epel6 beta
23:20.27goozbachand supybot will have most of it's plugins avaliable too
23:21.15herlogoozbach: cool
23:21.22herlothis is exciting :)
23:21.38herlogoozbach: noticed you've made a bigger presence there lately
23:21.44harleypigI dunno why, but I always parse that as supine bot
23:21.53goozbachImm installing my rhel6 virt guest on my lappy
23:21.57fugue88goozbach: Do you prefer Request Tracker over others?
23:22.08herlogoozbach: haha, nice
23:24.44fugue88fwiw, I think RT has a much better interface than Bugzilla, but I much prefer Roundup or Trac.  But maybe RT is geared towards different use cases than I put it to.
23:25.33goozbachfugue88: we're leaning heavily towards bugzilla integrated into versionone here
23:25.37goozbachI'm not a fan of either
23:25.54goozbachI want to be able to free-form email a bug to bugz@example.com and have them show up
23:26.02herlolubs Trac, but RT is very nice
23:26.06goozbachso I'm working on getting a RT instance setup which can do that
23:26.17goozbachand I'll have to write an interface to V1
23:26.26goozbachto track the bugs from one to the next
23:26.47herlogoozbach: trac supports emails pretty well actually
23:27.05goozbachherlo: but it doesn't do multiple projects very well
23:27.23fugue88goozbach: I don't know about v1, but if you like to interact with your tracker via e-mail in a natural way, Roundup is king.
23:27.40goozbachroundup?
23:27.52goozbachdo I have to conform to field use to submit a bug?
23:27.53fugue88http://zesty.ca/roundup.html
23:28.04fugue88goozbach: I don't think so.
23:28.11goozbachor can I dumb forward a stacktrace to create a new issue?
23:28.19goozbachcan it do multiple projects?
23:28.27herlogoozbach: that's true
23:28.51fugue88goozbach: Dumb forward, I think so.  Multiple projects, you might need your mail server's help and run multiple Roundup instances.
23:29.27goozbachfugue88: doesn't look polished enough for our users
23:29.33goozbachRT3 is just barely enough
23:29.34fugue88It's been a while since I've had the pleasure of using Roundup.  But it really started the whole movement of interacting with a tracker via e-mail, and I don't think anything since has matched it.
23:29.43herlogoozbach: but it does have 'components' which are basically projects, just revision control isn't tht way, but with git integration, you can have multiple roots that don't cost too much
23:29.54goozbachI'll give it a shot
23:30.00goozbachin my Proof of Concept
23:30.19goozbachthe biggest problem is I'd have to write an extension to integrate with versionone
23:30.29goozbachthat's the one immutable requirement
23:30.47goozbachwe're going bugzilla, but the version1 requirement is that bugzilla run on windows
23:30.49goozbachwhich is stupid
23:31.51herloyeah
23:31.55herloreally stupid
23:31.58fugue88Woah.
23:32.36goozbachso if I can throw together a simple extension to RT which dumps each new bug into V1 I am 80% there
23:32.54goozbachand I can do that via PERL easier than unknown project using python
23:33.25fugue88Granted.
23:33.39fugue88I'm all for pragmatics.
23:33.42goozbachoh man! epel6 beta is missing a slew of the perl dependancy
23:33.52goozbachcpan2rpm here I come... on Monday
23:34.02fugue88Happy weekend, goozbach.
23:34.14fugue88And herlo, and harleypig.
23:34.21goozbachweekend++
23:37.59harleypigI won't be having a happy weekend.
23:38.16harleypigMy ex is exercising her visitation rights.  But I have to drive them up to Layton.
23:38.21harleypigAnd drive them back.
23:38.36harleypigAnd deal with their anger and frustration for the next two weeks.
23:38.39harleypig:(
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23:45.55herloyou too fugue88

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