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| 03:39.05 | herlo | shhh, it is quiet time |
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| 17:14.24 | herlo | oy! |
| 17:28.46 | fugue88 | veh! |
| 17:29.41 | herlo | exactly |
| 17:29.42 | herlo | ! |
| 17:30.46 | fugue88 | why! |
| 17:30.47 | fugue88 | ? |
| 17:31.05 | herlo | because! |
| 17:31.09 | herlo | $ |
| 17:31.13 | fugue88 | And, when's our post mortem? I have Ubuntu Developer Summit all next week. |
| 17:31.19 | herlo | ^$ |
| 17:31.25 | fugue88 | Ooo, curve ball. I can't handle that. |
| 17:31.38 | herlo | fugue88: dunno, not able do do it anytime in the next few weeks |
| 17:31.45 | fugue88 | k |
| 17:31.47 | herlo | unless someone else organizes it, of course :) |
| 17:32.04 | fugue88 | looks around for mindjuju |
| 17:32.16 | fugue88 | I'll just type up my stuff sometime soonish. |
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| 18:16.51 | josephnexus | ~seen jsmith |
| 18:17.01 | infobot | jsmith <~jsmith@fedora/jsmith> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 2h 20m 39s ago, saying: 'mgeary: Yeah... you'll have to sell me yours for a discounted price now :-p'. |
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| 18:19.10 | Nafai | Afternoon everyone |
| 18:20.28 | fugue88 | Word. |
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| 18:42.21 | herlo | gah, I'm tired! |
| 18:42.37 | herlo | josephnexus: jsmith is on a plane :) |
| 18:43.00 | herlo | Nafai: !! hello sir. |
| 18:43.08 | Nafai | Hello Mr. herlo |
| 18:43.15 | herlo | how's things? |
| 18:43.20 | herlo | better, I hope? |
| 18:43.42 | Nafai | somewhat |
| 18:46.41 | herlo | that's good sir |
| 18:50.19 | herlo | where should we geek lunch next Thursday?? |
| 19:05.43 | macnewbold | somewhere by the mouth of parleys canyon? |
| 19:06.27 | herlo | macnewbold: lol, maybe |
| 19:06.29 | herlo | :) |
| 19:06.49 | macnewbold | i wish bombay house did lunch :( |
| 19:07.14 | herlo | me2 |
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| 19:13.13 | Nafai | Perhaps I could come next week |
| 19:13.17 | Nafai | It won't be as large of a group |
| 19:13.27 | herlo | probably not |
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| 20:09.52 | Gate | ~IE-- |
| 20:09.58 | Gate | ~karma IE |
| 20:09.58 | infobot | ie has karma of -667 |
| 20:10.04 | Gate | lol |
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| 21:00.43 | josephnexus | ie isn't doin to well |
| 21:01.12 | fugue88 | ~ie-- |
| 21:01.18 | Nafai | josephnexus: when does it? :) |
| 21:01.45 | josephnexus | ie9 isn't _bad_ |
| 21:01.48 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:07.14 | macnewbold | ~karma ie |
| 21:07.14 | infobot | ie has karma of -668 |
| 21:07.20 | macnewbold | ~ie++ |
| 21:07.28 | macnewbold | I can't believe i just said that |
| 21:07.30 | macnewbold | ~karma ie |
| 21:07.30 | infobot | ie has karma of -667 |
| 21:07.36 | macnewbold | ~ie++ |
| 21:07.40 | macnewbold | ~karma ie |
| 21:07.40 | infobot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 21:07.43 | macnewbold | there |
| 21:07.54 | macnewbold | ~karma msie |
| 21:07.54 | infobot | msie has neutral karma |
| 21:07.58 | macnewbold | ? |
| 21:08.00 | macnewbold | oh well |
| 21:09.02 | fugue88 | macnewbold: You've been marked, now. |
| 21:09.11 | fugue88 | :) |
| 21:11.22 | josephnexus | ie9 actually is a good step forward |
| 21:12.00 | macnewbold | yeah, when you're so far behind, you can do that kind of thing |
| 21:13.43 | josephnexus | yeah |
| 21:14.04 | josephnexus | it actually renders my xhtml css 2 standards compliant page properly |
| 21:14.07 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:16.35 | josephnexus | i mean, it's a few years late, but better late than never |
| 21:17.31 | fugue88 | josephnexus: Does this compliant page include anything more than a <p> element? |
| 21:17.35 | fugue88 | :P |
| 21:17.49 | josephnexus | :P |
| 21:30.07 | Gate | I just had a client tell me "You can use CSS3 rounded corners, its OK to exclude IE6" |
| 21:30.28 | herlo | w00t! |
| 21:30.30 | Gate | So I just had to explain that no IE below 9 supports it |
| 21:30.33 | herlo | exclude, exclude!! |
| 21:30.55 | herlo | Gate: exclude 'em all !!! |
| 21:31.07 | Gate | Oddly enough, I suggested that and they went for it. w007! |
| 21:31.11 | herlo | :-|P |
| 21:32.22 | josephnexus | :P |
| 21:32.26 | Nafai | Makes me glad I don't do web |
| 21:33.02 | herlo | Nafai: indeed, but I'm back in that game. Just glad I am not the dev on my current project |
| 21:33.23 | Nafai | I've actually never done web |
| 21:33.34 | Nafai | Which may be a disadvantage job-wise, I'm not sure |
| 21:33.47 | Gate | Nafai: you are a software engineer? |
| 21:34.16 | josephnexus | w00t... the new version of evolution actually has a decent search tool |
| 21:34.19 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:34.26 | Nafai | I really don't like the term engineer, I don't consider what we do engineering. |
| 21:34.34 | Nafai | software developer, sys admin, whatever :) |
| 21:35.18 | Nafai | I've done game development, backend server development, GUI development in a bunch of toolkits and languages, automation stuff, etc |
| 21:40.16 | josephnexus | Nafai, can you make a freepbx module? |
| 21:40.28 | josephnexus | we're looking for someone with freepbx module know-how to help us with a project |
| 21:40.55 | Nafai | I don't know what that is, but if anything, I'm really good at learning. |
| 21:41.15 | josephnexus | freepbx is an asterisk administration toolkit |
| 21:41.46 | josephnexus | we're making a module so it is easy for people to integrate our app with their asterisk server |
| 21:41.55 | josephnexus | there isn't much documentation about freepbx module creation however :-( |
| 21:42.03 | Nafai | nods |
| 21:42.15 | Nafai | a scenario I'm quite familiar with (from other projects) |
| 21:42.45 | josephnexus | yeah |
| 21:42.46 | Nafai | I had to deal with a ton of undocumented open source Java code that I integrated into our product at a previous employer and it was painful. But I got it done :) |
| 21:42.59 | josephnexus | and the freepbx official dudes want to have $150 just to give us a quote |
| 21:43.07 | josephnexus | shakes his fist at them. |
| 21:43.28 | herlo | heh |
| 21:43.39 | Nafai | geez |
| 21:44.04 | Nafai | Yeah, I'm willing to learn and pick this stuff up if your company doesn't mind. |
| 21:44.35 | josephnexus | nafai... unsure of what our budget would be for someone that doesn't "know" |
| 21:44.35 | josephnexus | follow what I'm saying? |
| 21:44.48 | Nafai | of course |
| 21:44.51 | Nafai | understandable |
| 21:45.05 | Nafai | Just letting you know I'm available :) |
| 21:45.08 | josephnexus | and the last thing I want to do is have someone slave away and not earn what they are worth |
| 21:46.10 | herlo | josephnexus: but on the other hand, having them learn a useful skill while you support them *some* is never bad either, because then you can use their knowledge in the future :) |
| 21:46.16 | herlo | good ol' investment strategies |
| 21:46.59 | josephnexus | yes |
| 21:47.03 | josephnexus | but nafai isn't an employee |
| 21:47.09 | josephnexus | he'd be a subcontractor at this point |
| 21:47.22 | josephnexus | so, all we'd be doing is paying someone to learn stuff for their own benefit |
| 21:47.24 | josephnexus | :-p |
| 21:47.35 | josephnexus | unless nafai wants a job |
| 21:47.38 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:48.05 | Nafai | well, I also am looking for full-time employment as well, for the right job |
| 21:48.12 | josephnexus | yeah |
| 21:48.16 | josephnexus | we wouldn't have fulltime |
| 21:48.21 | josephnexus | at least not for another month or two |
| 21:49.28 | Nafai | that actually might work out for me, to be honest |
| 21:49.29 | josephnexus | however, we open source what we're doing, so I guess worst case you are helping the open source community |
| 21:49.31 | Nafai | where are you located? |
| 21:49.35 | Nafai | yay open sources |
| 21:49.35 | josephnexus | southeast idaho |
| 21:49.40 | Nafai | Oh |
| 21:49.43 | Nafai | :( |
| 21:49.49 | josephnexus | everyone says that about idaho |
| 21:49.53 | josephnexus | what's with the idaho hating? |
| 21:49.55 | Nafai | I don't want to move back there |
| 21:49.57 | Nafai | :) |
| 21:49.59 | Nafai | Where? |
| 21:50.02 | Nafai | I grew up in Mud Lake |
| 21:50.02 | josephnexus | i fail to see why that's a problem? |
| 21:50.15 | josephnexus | all of our workers work from home |
| 21:50.18 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:50.22 | Nafai | Oh good |
| 21:50.44 | Nafai | Yea, moving to Idaho isn't an option mainly because of personal health care issues at the moment, my team of doctors is here |
| 21:50.55 | josephnexus | understandable |
| 21:51.30 | josephnexus | has a father that recently had a brain aneurysm (sp) and has recovered nearly 100% but has to be near his team just in case something goes wrong.... |
| 21:51.40 | Nafai | nods |
| 21:51.53 | josephnexus | but yeah, you'd be able to work from anywhere |
| 21:51.57 | josephnexus | we focus on the webs |
| 21:51.58 | Nafai | That's good :) |
| 21:51.59 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:52.04 | josephnexus | we have the internets! why not use them! |
| 21:52.05 | Nafai | So where in Idaho do you live? |
| 21:52.07 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:52.09 | josephnexus | rexburg |
| 21:52.25 | Nafai | ah, good ol' Rexburg |
| 21:52.26 | josephnexus | just outside of rexburg actually... due to the crazies in rexburg |
| 21:52.28 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:52.30 | Nafai | :) |
| 21:52.44 | Nafai | yeah, I grew up close by |
| 21:53.00 | josephnexus | i'm just kidding about rexburg... it's a good place to live |
| 21:53.04 | josephnexus | a typical college town |
| 21:54.00 | Nafai | Yeah, it's not bad |
| 21:55.05 | josephnexus | anyways... if you want to learn freepbx, go for it |
| 21:55.15 | josephnexus | we're willing to throw a few hundred towards getting this written |
| 21:55.23 | Nafai | nods |
| 21:55.53 | josephnexus | i doubt our budgets would be enough to encourage you on it's own to go forward |
| 21:56.00 | josephnexus | but at least you'd earn something from it |
| 21:56.04 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 21:56.06 | josephnexus | so if you get board, let me know |
| 21:56.39 | Nafai | sure thing. I'm waiting to hear back on another opportunity, so I'll let you know in a day or two |
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