IRC log for #utos on 20100419

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07:20.02*** topic/#utos is Utah Open Source - http://blog.utos.org | #hackUTOS: Here's Your Chance - http://blog.utos.org/2010/04/12/event-hackutos-heres-your-chance/
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14:40.48herlomorning
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15:27.14herlohey Gate
15:27.42herlohow's things?
15:32.01Gatepretty good
15:32.36GateStill liking the new job, still dealing with the bank over the house
15:32.36herlocool, did you see #hackUTOS stuff this week?
15:32.48herloGate: oh, banks suck :(
15:32.58GateI saw mention of it, but didn't have time to look closely
15:33.05Gatewhat's up?
15:33.52herlonot much, just wondered if you wanted to participate remotely
15:34.07herlowe're hopefully going to have at least one project on #hackutos
15:34.08GateI was under the impression it was a onetime event.
15:34.14Gatemmmmk
15:34.26herloGate: nah, if it succeeds, it'll at least be quarterly
15:34.43herloGate: http://hack.utos.org/faq/
15:34.51Gateoh, I misunderstood as well, I thought it was last weekend, not this weekend
15:35.38herlohehe
15:35.43Gatedo you have any projects lined up yet?
15:36.02herlowell, since it's a barcamp style, we don't really want to have a ton
15:36.04herlobut
15:36.05herlohttp://hack.utos.org/projects/
15:36.14herloand you can add your own if you like
15:36.52Gatenone of mine are ready for the eyes of others
15:37.02herloGate: but that's the point of this
15:37.12herloget others to help you get it off the ground if needed
15:38.03herloyou don't have to add it there, we actually plan to have people present their projects *at* #hackUTOS for consideration
15:38.17Gatehm...
15:38.21herlothat's what barcamps do
15:38.39trixturherlo: for consideration?
15:39.17herlotrixtur: yup
15:39.34herloconsideration for others to help you complete your project
15:39.44trixturthat means that the projects all aren't accepted
15:39.50trixturgotcha
15:39.51herlolol, no
15:40.01herloof course anyone can bring a project
15:40.16herlobut the people at the event can participate in *any* of the projects...
15:40.31herlowe encourage them to choose one and stick with it at least for the day...
15:40.42Gateinteresting format
15:41.02herloGate: have you never been to a barcamp before?
15:41.07Gatenope
15:41.12herloahh, that explains it
15:41.31herlowell let me give you a quick rundown as I think it's probably the case for a lot of people.
15:41.33Gatewell, I am willing to participate for at least part of the day remotely
15:41.38herlosweet!
15:41.57herloThe concept of a barcamp is that everyone participates
15:42.07herlosome people bring presentations (in our case projects)
15:42.09GateIf I had the money to spare I would drive up as I have other errands in SLC, but they have to wait a month or so :(
15:42.29Gateok
15:42.48herloeach project owner stands up and takes thirty seconds to explain their project, its goals, etc.  everyone else sits back and
15:42.52herlolistens
15:43.21herloonce all of the projects owners are done, they each write their project on a piece of paper and stand near a table, wall or something
15:43.28herlothat part is a bit ad-hoc
15:43.59herlothen the rest of the participants spend the next 20 minutes or so talking with each project owner, then choose one to work with
15:44.12herlothen we code...
15:44.28herloin a normal barcamp, people would vote, then the presentations would get scheduled based upon the vote
15:45.02herlowhat's cool about this is that if a project owner doesn't get anyone else to help, they can still have an entire day to sit and code...
15:45.11herlobut I suspect they'll all get at least one person...
15:45.46herloGate: does that make sense??
15:46.25herloas far as online, I think it will go similarly, and I plan to have one person translating the entire event into the irc channels
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15:55.06Gatemakes sense
15:55.28Gatebut with a reasonable number of people your "translator" is going to have to be a mad typer
15:56.57herlonah
15:57.08herloit's pretty well organized...
15:57.25herlobecause he'll be typing first what I say, then the projects.
15:57.43herloAfter that, he'll go around to each of the projects and 'participate' by typing what they say :)
15:58.02herloit isn't going to cover everything, likely can't
16:05.29Gateyeah
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16:08.02trixturherlo: so...essentially only worthwhile projects will be accepted ;)
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16:43.21herlolol
16:43.28herlotrixtur: sure, if that's how you want to put it
16:43.47herlobut I would rather think of it as come and hack, and you'll likely get a few people to help you with your project...
16:45.30trixturherlo: so I won't get into trouble for coming and just hacking on my project?
16:45.39trixtureven though that is probably selfish
16:45.40herlonope, we encourage that
16:45.45trixturbut I haven't have to time to work on it
16:46.05trixturand this seems like the perfect opportunity
16:46.05herlowe hope you get a few people to help you, but we're just making it easy for you to come and hack
16:46.18trixturcool
16:46.32trixturthats what I thought it was all about but I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a stupid assumption
16:47.37herlono, we're only putting a small bit of organization to it at the beginning so people will come early :)
16:48.03trixturcool
16:48.12herlothought you'd like that
16:48.21trixturyeah
16:48.30herlotrixtur: check this out: http://blog.utos.org/2010/04/19/news-a-hackutos-a-code-festival-update/
16:49.01trixturif I hack with music do I have to bring headphones?
16:49.17trixtur...or just go without
16:49.18utosbottrixtur: Error: "..or" is not a valid command.
16:50.06herlotrixtur: ooh, I should bring music for everyone :)
16:50.35trixturcool
16:50.37trixturwhat kind?
16:50.39herlodunno
16:50.45herlomaybe I'll make a DAAP share
16:50.55trixturI'm hacking to Thriving Ivory right now....pretty good
16:50.58herlolet others do the same and we can all share our music
16:51.04herlois a big fan of somafm.com
16:51.06herlofor coding
16:51.15trixturcool
16:56.55fozzmooraises hand in concurrence
16:58.57herlofozzmoo: to what?
16:59.04fozzmoosomafm
16:59.15herlooh, yes
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17:19.22trixturherlo: can I submit another project?
17:19.33herlotrixtur: are you going to be able to work on both??
17:19.44trixturmy current project uses the other
17:19.52trixturone is a library
17:19.57trixturits...kinda part of the project
17:20.06herloyeah, probably just leave it as one??
17:20.12trixturok
17:20.13trixturnp
17:20.36trixturif anyone works on my project, and we need to modify the library I'll just add them to that project too
17:21.03herlo:)
17:21.05trixturI just obtained permission from the project owner to add people to help out. So...
17:26.25herloawesome!
17:27.24trixturHe's out in floridahttp://www.ohloh.net/p/twitterizer
17:27.58trixturoops: http://www.ohloh.net/p/twitterizer
17:29.09herlocool
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19:24.54herlotrixtur: you know what, add your project.  Maybe you will find that you'll only work on one, but it can't hurt to have both listed...
19:25.40trixturherlo: you sure? I don't want to clutter up your site.
19:30.56trixturalso...the library is much more complex than the implementation
19:32.30trixturI'm pretty stoked for hackUTOS...I might be able to talk my younger brother into tagging along
19:32.46trixturHe's a young hacker...currently in school studying Computer Science
19:33.01trixturit'd be a great experience for him
19:47.55herlow00t, just got two more projects
19:48.00herlotrixtur: for sure...
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21:29.02sontek:O!
21:30.00Gate:o!
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22:36.35Gatemrh?
22:36.43Gateis bored, but should be working
22:38.34herlolol
22:38.36herlois going home
22:40.07GateI need to stay anothr half an hour and at least *attempt* to finish this code
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