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07:20.02 | *** topic/#utos is Utah Open Source - http://blog.utos.org | #hackUTOS: Here's Your Chance - http://blog.utos.org/2010/04/12/event-hackutos-heres-your-chance/ |
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14:40.48 | herlo | morning |
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14:50.14 | Gate | morning |
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15:27.14 | herlo | hey Gate |
15:27.42 | herlo | how's things? |
15:32.01 | Gate | pretty good |
15:32.36 | Gate | Still liking the new job, still dealing with the bank over the house |
15:32.36 | herlo | cool, did you see #hackUTOS stuff this week? |
15:32.48 | herlo | Gate: oh, banks suck :( |
15:32.58 | Gate | I saw mention of it, but didn't have time to look closely |
15:33.05 | Gate | what's up? |
15:33.52 | herlo | not much, just wondered if you wanted to participate remotely |
15:34.07 | herlo | we're hopefully going to have at least one project on #hackutos |
15:34.08 | Gate | I was under the impression it was a onetime event. |
15:34.14 | Gate | mmmmk |
15:34.26 | herlo | Gate: nah, if it succeeds, it'll at least be quarterly |
15:34.43 | herlo | Gate: http://hack.utos.org/faq/ |
15:34.51 | Gate | oh, I misunderstood as well, I thought it was last weekend, not this weekend |
15:35.38 | herlo | hehe |
15:35.43 | Gate | do you have any projects lined up yet? |
15:36.02 | herlo | well, since it's a barcamp style, we don't really want to have a ton |
15:36.04 | herlo | but |
15:36.05 | herlo | http://hack.utos.org/projects/ |
15:36.14 | herlo | and you can add your own if you like |
15:36.52 | Gate | none of mine are ready for the eyes of others |
15:37.02 | herlo | Gate: but that's the point of this |
15:37.12 | herlo | get others to help you get it off the ground if needed |
15:38.03 | herlo | you don't have to add it there, we actually plan to have people present their projects *at* #hackUTOS for consideration |
15:38.17 | Gate | hm... |
15:38.21 | herlo | that's what barcamps do |
15:38.39 | trixtur | herlo: for consideration? |
15:39.17 | herlo | trixtur: yup |
15:39.34 | herlo | consideration for others to help you complete your project |
15:39.44 | trixtur | that means that the projects all aren't accepted |
15:39.50 | trixtur | gotcha |
15:39.51 | herlo | lol, no |
15:40.01 | herlo | of course anyone can bring a project |
15:40.16 | herlo | but the people at the event can participate in *any* of the projects... |
15:40.31 | herlo | we encourage them to choose one and stick with it at least for the day... |
15:40.42 | Gate | interesting format |
15:41.02 | herlo | Gate: have you never been to a barcamp before? |
15:41.07 | Gate | nope |
15:41.12 | herlo | ahh, that explains it |
15:41.31 | herlo | well let me give you a quick rundown as I think it's probably the case for a lot of people. |
15:41.33 | Gate | well, I am willing to participate for at least part of the day remotely |
15:41.38 | herlo | sweet! |
15:41.57 | herlo | The concept of a barcamp is that everyone participates |
15:42.07 | herlo | some people bring presentations (in our case projects) |
15:42.09 | Gate | If I had the money to spare I would drive up as I have other errands in SLC, but they have to wait a month or so :( |
15:42.29 | Gate | ok |
15:42.48 | herlo | each project owner stands up and takes thirty seconds to explain their project, its goals, etc. everyone else sits back and |
15:42.52 | herlo | listens |
15:43.21 | herlo | once all of the projects owners are done, they each write their project on a piece of paper and stand near a table, wall or something |
15:43.28 | herlo | that part is a bit ad-hoc |
15:43.59 | herlo | then the rest of the participants spend the next 20 minutes or so talking with each project owner, then choose one to work with |
15:44.12 | herlo | then we code... |
15:44.28 | herlo | in a normal barcamp, people would vote, then the presentations would get scheduled based upon the vote |
15:45.02 | herlo | what's cool about this is that if a project owner doesn't get anyone else to help, they can still have an entire day to sit and code... |
15:45.11 | herlo | but I suspect they'll all get at least one person... |
15:45.46 | herlo | Gate: does that make sense?? |
15:46.25 | herlo | as far as online, I think it will go similarly, and I plan to have one person translating the entire event into the irc channels |
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15:55.06 | Gate | makes sense |
15:55.28 | Gate | but with a reasonable number of people your "translator" is going to have to be a mad typer |
15:56.57 | herlo | nah |
15:57.08 | herlo | it's pretty well organized... |
15:57.25 | herlo | because he'll be typing first what I say, then the projects. |
15:57.43 | herlo | After that, he'll go around to each of the projects and 'participate' by typing what they say :) |
15:58.02 | herlo | it isn't going to cover everything, likely can't |
16:05.29 | Gate | yeah |
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16:08.02 | trixtur | herlo: so...essentially only worthwhile projects will be accepted ;) |
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16:43.21 | herlo | lol |
16:43.28 | herlo | trixtur: sure, if that's how you want to put it |
16:43.47 | herlo | but I would rather think of it as come and hack, and you'll likely get a few people to help you with your project... |
16:45.30 | trixtur | herlo: so I won't get into trouble for coming and just hacking on my project? |
16:45.39 | trixtur | even though that is probably selfish |
16:45.40 | herlo | nope, we encourage that |
16:45.45 | trixtur | but I haven't have to time to work on it |
16:46.05 | trixtur | and this seems like the perfect opportunity |
16:46.05 | herlo | we hope you get a few people to help you, but we're just making it easy for you to come and hack |
16:46.18 | trixtur | cool |
16:46.32 | trixtur | thats what I thought it was all about but I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a stupid assumption |
16:47.37 | herlo | no, we're only putting a small bit of organization to it at the beginning so people will come early :) |
16:48.03 | trixtur | cool |
16:48.12 | herlo | thought you'd like that |
16:48.21 | trixtur | yeah |
16:48.30 | herlo | trixtur: check this out: http://blog.utos.org/2010/04/19/news-a-hackutos-a-code-festival-update/ |
16:49.01 | trixtur | if I hack with music do I have to bring headphones? |
16:49.17 | trixtur | ...or just go without |
16:49.18 | utosbot | trixtur: Error: "..or" is not a valid command. |
16:50.06 | herlo | trixtur: ooh, I should bring music for everyone :) |
16:50.35 | trixtur | cool |
16:50.37 | trixtur | what kind? |
16:50.39 | herlo | dunno |
16:50.45 | herlo | maybe I'll make a DAAP share |
16:50.55 | trixtur | I'm hacking to Thriving Ivory right now....pretty good |
16:50.58 | herlo | let others do the same and we can all share our music |
16:51.04 | herlo | is a big fan of somafm.com |
16:51.06 | herlo | for coding |
16:51.15 | trixtur | cool |
16:56.55 | fozzmoo | raises hand in concurrence |
16:58.57 | herlo | fozzmoo: to what? |
16:59.04 | fozzmoo | somafm |
16:59.15 | herlo | oh, yes |
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17:19.22 | trixtur | herlo: can I submit another project? |
17:19.33 | herlo | trixtur: are you going to be able to work on both?? |
17:19.44 | trixtur | my current project uses the other |
17:19.52 | trixtur | one is a library |
17:19.57 | trixtur | its...kinda part of the project |
17:20.06 | herlo | yeah, probably just leave it as one?? |
17:20.12 | trixtur | ok |
17:20.13 | trixtur | np |
17:20.36 | trixtur | if anyone works on my project, and we need to modify the library I'll just add them to that project too |
17:21.03 | herlo | :) |
17:21.05 | trixtur | I just obtained permission from the project owner to add people to help out. So... |
17:26.25 | herlo | awesome! |
17:27.24 | trixtur | He's out in floridahttp://www.ohloh.net/p/twitterizer |
17:27.58 | trixtur | oops: http://www.ohloh.net/p/twitterizer |
17:29.09 | herlo | cool |
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19:24.54 | herlo | trixtur: you know what, add your project. Maybe you will find that you'll only work on one, but it can't hurt to have both listed... |
19:25.40 | trixtur | herlo: you sure? I don't want to clutter up your site. |
19:30.56 | trixtur | also...the library is much more complex than the implementation |
19:32.30 | trixtur | I'm pretty stoked for hackUTOS...I might be able to talk my younger brother into tagging along |
19:32.46 | trixtur | He's a young hacker...currently in school studying Computer Science |
19:33.01 | trixtur | it'd be a great experience for him |
19:47.55 | herlo | w00t, just got two more projects |
19:48.00 | herlo | trixtur: for sure... |
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21:29.02 | sontek | :O! |
21:30.00 | Gate | :o! |
21:30.38 | Gate | :(){:|:&};: |
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22:23.12 | herlo | hrm |
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22:36.35 | Gate | mrh? |
22:36.43 | Gate | is bored, but should be working |
22:38.34 | herlo | lol |
22:38.36 | herlo | is going home |
22:40.07 | Gate | I need to stay anothr half an hour and at least *attempt* to finish this code |
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