IRC log for #utos on 20091107

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03:53.18herlomindjuju: pong
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06:01.50josephnexusanyone here know php very well?
06:03.48sontek^_^
06:06.25herlojosephnexus: try #uphpu
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17:22.31Supaplexmindjuju: hey :)
17:24.37mindjuju~apb herlo, supaplex
17:24.37infobotACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at herlo, supaplex
17:27.32DexterTheDragon~lart mindjuju
17:27.32infobotpulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps mindjuju
17:28.35mindjujusup DexterTheDragon
17:28.53DexterTheDragonjust doin some work
17:28.59DexterTheDragonu?
17:29.09mindjujusame
17:29.17mindjujuand cleaning th eoffice up a bit
17:30.30mindjujuhave you by chance figured out what the difference is between a Live Feed and a News Feed on FB?
17:30.48mindjujuthey appear nearly the same, but some things fall to one side, and some the other side, and some both
17:31.00mindjujuit's like
17:31.17mindjujuthe uncertainty effect
17:31.33DexterTheDragonthey changed it to try to weed out the signal to noise
17:32.02DexterTheDragonso the news feed will only show you things facebook thinks is somehow interesting to you
17:32.10mindjujuah
17:32.23DexterTheDragonwhereas the live feed shows the items in the chronological order
17:32.24mindjujuso whcih channel is the signal and which channel is the noise
17:32.38DexterTheDragonbut it also shows crap like people becoming friends
17:32.43Supaplexi'm trying to find my book on xml in the hopes I can wrap my head around ways to use xpath or whatever else in enumerating junos config schema
17:32.44mindjujuohhh
17:32.55DexterTheDragonnews=signal, live=noise
17:33.10mindjujusupaplex, i don't have an xml book
17:33.21mindjujuerrr, wait, i think a friend gave me one though
17:33.23mindjujuhang on
17:33.40mindjujubut it's like XML for boneheads or something like that
17:33.41DexterTheDragonwhich is annoying cause I want to see the things as people post them, but I really don't want to see the random person became friends with random person junk
17:33.45Supaplexi have a dead tree one in my bookshelf I think
17:33.46mindjujudollar bin book
17:34.18mindjujusupaplex, so do you need a book or were you offering one
17:34.52mindjujuDexterTheDragon - is there a way to revert back to same ole same ole
17:35.03DexterTheDragonnot that I've found
17:36.05Supaplexneither
17:38.02mindjujucurious
17:38.21mindjujuso i was repsonding to your ping supaplex
17:38.31mindjujuwe're ya just wanting to chat?
17:38.53mindjujubecause it's a saturday, and today, that I can do
17:38.56mindjuju:)
17:39.10mindjujui'm suppose to be in math, btw, but i'm still quarantined
17:39.16mindjujuuntil Monday
17:39.35DexterTheDragonmindjuju: how're the infected doing?
17:39.44mindjujuyou know, not bad
17:39.49mindjujui've gotten a ton of stuff done
17:39.52mindjujui wasn't ever sick
17:40.07mindjujubut 3 people at work got it and we all happened to be in a meeting on Monday
17:40.13mindjujuso they are blamming it on me
17:40.14mindjuju:)
17:40.28DexterTheDragonyour a carrier
17:40.29mindjujui tried explaining methods of communication
17:40.51herlomindjuju: pong
17:40.52mindjujui guess i might have touched a surface infected, and then touched another surface
17:40.57mindjujuhi herlo
17:41.06mindjujuand in that way carried the germs
17:41.19herlolol, germy man
17:41.37mindjujubut in the end, i never got more than a mild mild fever and small headache
17:41.59mindjujutiff and corban, different story
17:42.04herlomindjuju: i had something on monday night until early Wednesday morning.  Slept most of 36 hours
17:42.37mindjujuyup, sounds like them
17:42.40herlohas to run and eat and go shopping but will be back in an hour or so...
17:42.48mindjujulethargic
17:42.49herlomindjuju: what did you need before I go?
17:42.51mindjujuand sleep
17:42.55herloya
17:42.56mindjujuherlo, you pinged me
17:42.59mindjujui was replying
17:43.02mindjuju:)
17:43.12herloyeah, it was two days ago, just wanted to touch base with you some more
17:43.17mindjujubut if you're oing shopping, could you get me a bag of Salt and Vinegar chips
17:43.21herloabout the utos stuff we'be been working on...
17:43.28herlocan I ping you when I return?
17:43.31mindjujuyup
17:43.34Supaplexfound what i',m looking for. xml professional by wrox press
17:43.34mindjujui'll be here
17:43.51herlomindjuju: also, I'm gonna try to start working on the layout 'not theme' of the new utos portal
17:44.12herlomindjuju: http://utos.org <-- pretty bland right now, but I'm starting with that theme I think...and putting the sections on it I want
17:44.19herlothen justin and velda can 'spruce' it up :)
17:46.20herloanyway, off to shop, ttfn
17:47.03mindjujui'm getting really tired of youtube and copyright || http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lgcQUQZBtE
17:47.16mindjujuwhat the heck is the point of leaving the video if you can't hear anything
17:47.45DexterTheDragonaudio disabled. wtc
17:47.56mindjujuyeah, copyright
17:48.24mindjujusomebody neeeds to make a TPB::youtube where the video can just be video
17:48.38DexterTheDragonheh
17:49.11mindjujuthis one is a slight variant, but good - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXrU1GFqYEU&feature=related
18:07.47Supaplexoff to werk. laters.
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20:36.09herlomindjuju: ping
20:39.38josephnexushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypVe2DbhxXQ <--- that's a nice version of that song
20:39.53josephnexus(I know it's late to the channel, but it's good)
20:41.00herlohave you heard cake's cover of it?  It's good
20:41.11josephnexusthat's what I linked to
20:41.13josephnexus:-D
20:41.18herlohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypVe2DbhxXQ
20:41.23herlooh, you iddi :)
20:41.37josephnexusis on top of this stuff.
20:43.41herlolol
20:43.53herlojosephnexus: that 'iddi' was supposed to be 'did'
20:44.01herlodunno where that typing of mine came from sometimes
20:44.01josephnexusi know your codespeak
20:44.07josephnexus:-P
20:44.23herlojosephnexus: :) hey, so it looks like we want to set up a time to chat with you, and see the facilities
20:44.37josephnexushad better clean things up then.
20:44.37herlotwo separate conversations...
20:44.41josephnexusi haven't been there is so long
20:44.46herlofirst, I think a phone call is good
20:44.48josephnexusfor all I know it could have all burned down
20:44.50josephnexus:-P
20:44.58josephnexusexcept the servers appear to be working
20:45.11herloyeah, probably not the best sales pitch :)
20:45.19josephnexuslol
20:45.25josephnexusi'm honest about it
20:45.27josephnexus:-P
20:45.31josephnexusit's good... it's small, but good
20:45.35herlocool
20:45.52herloso we're formulating some questions, I suspect we'll want to talk sometime next week
20:46.07josephnexusok
20:46.09herlothen schedule sometime to come up and see your facility...
20:46.18josephnexusit's next to subway, so that's a plus
20:46.21josephnexus:-D
20:46.36josephnexusok... so you didn't find that as humorous as I did
20:46.46herlohaha, probably want to come up for a whole day, drive up in the morning, have lunch and see the facility, hang out for dinner maybe and head home...
20:47.06josephnexuswe could probably do that
20:47.09josephnexuswe've been so swamped though
20:47.11herlolikes subway, what city are you in again? Rexburg?
20:47.18josephnexusjust landed a ginormous project
20:47.22herlojosephnexus: what about on a Sunday??
20:47.26josephnexusso we're all swamped for the next few months....
20:47.36josephnexuswould prefer to not do any work related stuff on sunday...
20:47.46herlookay, that's fine too, just asking
20:48.02herloSunday is the most convenient day for herlo and Heartsbane
20:48.08josephnexusif you are in the area though, feel free to drop by
20:48.27herlowell, we're not just gonna 'drop by' to 'Rexburg'?
20:48.29josephnexuswhat we've done is converted the upstairs to be for our administrative and data storage/processing
20:48.49josephnexusso it's in a secured room, enough space for a few racks, it's got A/C is elevated, etc
20:48.54josephnexusand we keep improving it over time
20:48.59herloright
20:49.11josephnexusit's not like a huge Data Center
20:49.18josephnexuswith floor after floor of space
20:49.37herloright, understood
20:50.14josephnexusbut it works well
20:50.27josephnexuseverything has batter backup, it's clean, cooled, and secured
20:50.35josephnexuswell
20:50.38josephnexusbatter and battery backup
20:50.41josephnexus:-D
20:51.12josephnexusthinks that every data center needs a batter backup
20:51.22josephnexusservers want pancakes sometimes
20:54.30herloyes, they do
20:54.37herlobut you are strange, sir
21:01.38josephnexussry
21:03.15herlolol, it's all good
21:09.15josephnexusi don't know when i'll be able to meet with ya
21:09.28josephnexuswe've got 370hrs of labor to do before dec 10
21:09.32josephnexusand we're a small team
21:28.05herlowow
21:28.13herlowell, we'll figure it out
21:30.02josephnexusyeah
21:50.07herlomindjuju: ping?
22:38.52herlohey, anyone around?
22:38.59Nafaino
22:39.03herloNafai: okay
22:39.09Nafai:)
22:39.26herloNafai: how's things?
22:39.55Nafainot bad
22:40.06Nafaijust getting restless being at home most of the time
22:40.10herlocool.  kicking around on a saturday huh?
22:40.53herloyeah, I get tired of being home for more than a day or so...
22:40.59Nafaiyeah
22:41.10NafaiI've been at home most every day for a month now
22:41.19herlooh fun
22:41.34Nafaisort of
22:41.45NafaiI already did that for six weeks this summer
22:42.07herlowasn't being serious
22:43.03Nafaiheh
22:43.22herloNafai: wanna give me a few thoughts on a wordpress layout?
22:43.30Nafaisure
22:43.37herlohttp://utos.org
22:43.54herlojust looking at the items on the header bar, like categories essentially
22:44.16herloI'm trying to think of anything else that might go up there
22:44.28Nafaisure
22:44.55Nafaivery clean theme, by the way.  I like
22:44.57herloany thoughts?
22:45.04herloyeah, mimbo is nice
22:45.30herlosome of the pages currently take you away, but eventually, they'll all be the same...
22:45.37herloso you can always get back here.
22:45.58Nafaithough categories seem good to me
22:46.27herloyeah, there's something missing, but I can't see what
22:47.50Nafaihrm
22:48.26herlothe home page is going to be more of a portal of activities and highlights of groups and such
22:48.44Nafaiand groups will be the various user groups?
22:48.46herlowe have some mockups, but I need to get a good basis in place for them to make the look and feel exactly where we want
22:49.02herloNafai: yeah, that's already there, but it'll be more *complete*
22:49.07Nafaicool
22:49.17herloI think what I want to do there, is make it a list of groups, with the ability to add your group
22:49.33herlowe approve them, and people can search on there for keywords, like 'python' or 'unix'
22:49.46herloand it will filter to the appropriate groups
22:50.47herlogot it! wiki!
22:51.19herloand instead of 'Podcasts', I think I'll go with 'Media'
22:51.22herloor something
22:54.42Nafaiyeah, that sounds good
22:55.11herloI just decided that 'Participate' was too vague
22:55.37herloso I moved 'Groups' to participate, then I'll make the title of that talk about how to participate and get involved with a particular LUG
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