IRC log for #utos on 20091023

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04:23.31herlo~seen mattharrison
04:23.33infoboti haven't seen 'mattharrison', herlo
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04:23.39infoboti haven't seen 'matthewharrison', herlo
04:35.30josephnexushi herlo
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04:35.43infobotjosephnexus is currently on #utos (12h 44m 13s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen josephnexus'.
04:35.49josephnexusdang, i've been spotted!
04:35.52josephnexusruns for the hills.
04:39.57herlojosephnexus: hi
04:40.18herlojosephnexus: no need to run, I'm not looking for you, yet :)
04:40.29josephnexusdid you guys have a chance to look for the proposal?
04:40.43herloyes and no
04:41.04herloI've not shared it with anyone yet, because I have a few other things I need to line up first
04:42.09*** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source - http://utos.org | UTOSC 2009 was a big hit! Thanks to all our sponsors and attendees.
04:45.13josephnexusok
04:45.23herlojosephnexus: how's things up north these days?
04:45.27josephnexusnice
04:45.35josephnexusexcept form validation is a pima right now
04:45.54herloya I hear ya
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09:54.48Supaplextime fer zzZzz'z
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16:27.17bmac2quick question,   I have Zenoss set up to monitor my new production environment
16:27.21bmac2but I need a log server
16:27.33bmac2I don't see in the docs that zenoss will be a syslog server also
16:27.43bmac2waht syslog server do you guys use or recommend?
16:28.45herlorsyslog
16:28.51herlohighly recommend it
16:29.06bmac2k
16:29.10bmac2port on debian?
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16:49.08fugue88herlo: Why do you recommend rsyslog over, say, metalog or syslog-ng?
16:50.07herlofugue88: for lots of reasons
16:50.11herlobmac2: it's available
16:50.15herloor at least it should be
16:50.56herlofugue88: syslog-ng is complex and difficult to configure compared to syslog, rsyslog provides multiple ways to input data, remote logging is simpler and can accept from any syslog compatible client
16:51.44herlofugue88: check out rsyslog.org for recipes and such, it's just really, really configurable and very simple to manage.  Plus it's tcp performance is better than syslog-ng and syslog
16:52.03herlofugue88: sorry -- http://www.rsyslog.com/
16:53.20fugue88Thanks, that's a lot better than "lot's of reasons."  :)
16:54.25fugue88I generally prefer metalog over syslog-ng because it has integrated file rotation, but it seems that metalog insists on hooking into the kernel's log, which isn't available if you're running inside a linux-vserver container (not sure about openvz).
16:54.45fugue88So for containers, I resorted to syslog-ng.
16:54.54fugue88Nice to see a recommendation for another logger though.
16:56.47bmac2herlo, stupid question, how to you see the logs the rsyslog server pulls??? is there a browser access for them??? I KNOW my damn mac loving boss will want a gui
16:57.00bmac2or is it just like always, cat / vi them
16:57.47bmac2phpLogCon
16:57.49bmac2found it
16:59.00herlobmac2: no, it's syslog
16:59.16herlobmac2: you want that, you'll need something like awstats or a log analyzer
16:59.39bmac2there IS a front end for rsyslog
16:59.42bmac2they reference it
16:59.47bmac2phpLogCon
16:59.48herlobmac2: I've never used it
16:59.55bmac2I will use it to happify the damn german
16:59.59herlolooks at logs the way god intended
17:00.03bmac2and his f*cking mac
17:00.10herlo:)
17:00.14herlosorry, gotta run
17:00.16bmac2he is too command line illiterate
17:00.23bmac2I have to edit his host file for him
17:00.28bmac2he can't even do that
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18:21.30blendmaster1024are the videos from utosc out yet?
18:23.34goozbachblendmaster1024: most likey not
18:23.43blendmaster1024aw
18:23.45goozbachfozz has been on vacation for the last week
18:23.52blendmaster1024dang it
18:23.53goozbachand he's gonna be doing *ALL* of them
18:23.56goozbachit'll be a bit
18:24.05blendmaster1024yeah
18:24.34blendmaster1024and i don't i wonder if we could help him...?
18:24.41blendmaster1024uhm... i mean..
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20:30.37Lars-UThands herlo a Coke Zero, out of spite.
20:31.00herlofrackin' Lars-UT
20:31.05Lars-UT:)
20:31.11josephnexusthat's almost a lart statement
20:31.12josephnexus:-p
20:31.17josephnexusyou'd expect infobot to say that
20:32.55Lars-UTYou say herlo, I say hel-ro...
20:33.08Lars-UTwaits for it...
20:35.02Lars-UTdecides his anagram detection sense has failed
20:35.09herloslut-ra!!!
20:35.15Lars-UTthere it is!
20:35.20herlowas busy with other things :-P
20:35.31herlowork is calling and such
20:35.34herloso it took a minute
20:35.43Lars-UTBurninating the peasants... THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!  Wait, wrong song.
20:35.52herlofrackin' Lars-UT
20:35.57herlocan't even get the song right :)(
20:36.05Lars-UTlol
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21:17.41VogLars-UT: I wish my Trogdor panorama won the lego competition at ignite 3.5
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21:34.12Lars-UTVog: You should have got the first prize for brilliant design concept alone.
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22:49.22GateI had to leave early, who ended up winning the lego competition?
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