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| 01:53.03 | herlo | aaannd... We're back! |
| 02:32.22 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: ping |
| 02:32.43 | mindjuju | pong |
| 02:33.04 | mindjuju | anybody know what line 51 means on this page? |
| 02:33.06 | mindjuju | http://pastebin.ca/1535434 |
| 02:33.42 | herlo | sure, run 'make load' on the command line |
| 02:33.56 | undertakingyou | then the computer poops |
| 02:34.01 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 02:34.14 | herlo | lol |
| 02:34.15 | undertakingyou | ok, I needed the comic relief. |
| 02:34.46 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: Had a talk with a marketing guy at SLCC today. He has some good ideas I'd love to run past you. |
| 02:35.04 | undertakingyou | pass his ideas past you. |
| 02:35.15 | undertakingyou | Pass on info to you . . . . I don't know how to say that but yeah. |
| 02:35.55 | mindjuju | looks at the ideas as the go whizzing by |
| 02:36.02 | mindjuju | cool |
| 02:36.05 | undertakingyou | oh, yeah, there they went. |
| 02:36.21 | mindjuju | so, what were they |
| 02:36.38 | mindjuju | by the way, that make load seems to xploded my comuter |
| 02:36.41 | mindjuju | :( |
| 02:38.04 | herlo | mindjuju: make is a command that runs the 'Makefile' in that directory. load is a 'target' inside the Makefile and it has actions to complete. Not sure how you got to 'make load' but it seems to me that this driver would be available in the repos... |
| 02:38.35 | mindjuju | really? |
| 02:38.41 | undertakingyou | So mindjuju, the marketing guy said that if we want to get business involvement then we need to talk to the local chamber of commerces. |
| 02:38.46 | herlo | well, did you search for it yet? |
| 02:38.46 | undertakingyou | And he gave me some names. |
| 02:38.48 | mindjuju | can i install a driver using aptitude? |
| 02:38.55 | mindjuju | i thought aptitude was just for apps |
| 02:39.11 | herlo | it has drivers, apps, you name it |
| 02:39.15 | fizz | you can install video drivers from aptitude. |
| 02:39.16 | fizz | so yeah |
| 02:39.19 | mindjuju | k, 'll search real quick |
| 02:39.21 | herlo | that's assuming someone as built that |
| 02:39.23 | undertakingyou | Said that if we offer something of a discount for their members they will publish it in their news letters and announce it in their meeting. |
| 02:39.34 | fizz | built it AND it has been put in the repo |
| 02:39.35 | undertakingyou | And that is business people there. |
| 02:39.56 | herlo | wow, that's a first for the chambers :) We tried that in 2007, with a big flop. I'm glad there's some discussion there... |
| 02:41.33 | undertakingyou | Yeah, Trevor and I met with Robert Baird and he brought in a marketing guy. |
| 02:41.37 | undertakingyou | So we talked about it. |
| 02:41.47 | undertakingyou | He also had some good suggestions about a billboard. |
| 02:43.03 | undertakingyou | Mr Baird is . . . interesting. He was nice, and happy to meet us. But not as enthused as the marketing guy. |
| 02:43.09 | undertakingyou | Of course, that is their job. |
| 02:44.44 | mindjuju | so about aptitude, it didn't have the driver |
| 02:44.46 | mindjuju | :( |
| 02:44.56 | undertakingyou | So mindjuju, should I email you the names of the people that he gave me? Or should I do that legwork and just tell you what I need? |
| 02:45.06 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: what is the driver for again? |
| 02:45.06 | mindjuju | that would be awesome to email that over |
| 02:45.20 | mindjuju | it's for a frame grabber that I use to record UPHPU meetings |
| 02:45.27 | mindjuju | i'm trying to take the whole operation open source |
| 02:45.56 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: that is good. THat is what jesus would do. |
| 02:46.09 | mindjuju | that's something heartsbane would say |
| 02:46.19 | herlo | mindjuju: is this similar to what the other doc had you do? http://code.epresence.tv/wiki/LinuxCaptureInstall |
| 02:46.32 | Heartsbane | goes afk. |
| 02:46.52 | herlo | sure he does |
| 02:47.16 | mindjuju | herlo, yeah |
| 02:47.22 | mindjuju | but now i'm wondering if i got the right download |
| 02:47.25 | herlo | mindjuju: k, thought I'd try... |
| 02:47.30 | mindjuju | i opted for the one that said ubuntu in it |
| 02:47.34 | mindjuju | and x86 |
| 02:47.45 | mindjuju | maybe i should stick strickly to the kernel version? |
| 02:48.06 | herlo | yeah, kernel version is *important* |
| 02:49.49 | herlo | did anyone go to SLLUG? I didn't get up there... |
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| 02:59.24 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: email sent to you. |
| 03:00.39 | mindjuju | k |
| 03:04.25 | mindjuju | how do i know if i driver i made is loaded? |
| 03:06.10 | herlo | lsmod | grep module |
| 03:06.17 | herlo | module being the name of the module |
| 03:06.22 | mindjuju | oh, thats what ismod is |
| 03:06.23 | herlo | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 03:06.27 | mindjuju | k |
| 03:06.30 | herlo | insmod?? |
| 03:06.35 | herlo | that's old |
| 03:06.42 | herlo | use modprobe <module> |
| 03:08.14 | mindjuju | curious, i did the make load with the kernel version that bested matched, it made it without error, but it doesn't work and it doesn't appear in modprobe |
| 03:08.26 | mindjuju | but when it built, it said something about ismod |
| 03:08.32 | mindjuju | like /sbin/ismod |
| 03:08.44 | herlo | ismod is not a command |
| 03:08.50 | herlo | it's probably insmod |
| 03:09.02 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 03:09.03 | herlo | modprobe loads and unloads modules |
| 03:09.10 | herlo | insmod is the old way to load modules |
| 03:09.18 | herlo | rmmod is old way to unload modules |
| 03:09.22 | herlo | lsmod lists modules |
| 03:09.26 | mindjuju | so i think it created something, but i don't see anything in the folder that the pieces were in |
| 03:09.27 | herlo | thus, why I said |
| 03:09.35 | herlo | lsmod | grep <module> |
| 03:09.39 | herlo | to see if it was loaded |
| 03:09.55 | herlo | you can do modinfo <module> too |
| 03:10.36 | mindjuju | curiously it says command not found |
| 03:10.41 | mindjuju | i tried it with sudo |
| 03:10.43 | mindjuju | too |
| 03:10.44 | herlo | modinfo?? |
| 03:10.52 | herlo | hmm |
| 03:11.03 | herlo | http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/man_pages/modinfo8.html |
| 03:11.14 | herlo | is lsmod there? |
| 03:12.26 | mindjuju | nope |
| 03:12.58 | mindjuju | modinfo says vga2usb isn't there |
| 03:13.00 | mindjuju | hmmm... |
| 03:13.39 | mindjuju | goes back to the rademe file to see if i missed something |
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| 03:42.19 | mindjuju | decides to stop trying and to plan to go open source next month |
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| 03:45.45 | CarmonyPhone | Sup :p |
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| 03:52.51 | herlo | mindjuju: if lsmod isn't there try /sbin/lsmod |
| 03:52.59 | herlo | somethings not right with your box if it's missing |
| 03:53.08 | herlo | might just be that it's not installed |
| 04:00.49 | eggyknap | ...or that you're running Windows. |
| 04:02.06 | herlo | lol |
| 04:02.07 | herlo | eggyknap: hi |
| 04:02.46 | eggyknap | Hiya :) |
| 04:03.38 | eggyknap | So I noticed your "excited for igniteslc" tweet, and I have to wonder -- I've heard almost universally rave reviews of Ignite events, but TBH, I just don't see how it's all that interesting. |
| 04:05.27 | herlo | oh, you have to experience it to understand |
| 04:05.29 | herlo | I'm not kidding either |
| 04:05.43 | herlo | this is my third event. I don't think I'll miss one if I can help it |
| 04:05.57 | herlo | albeit, preparing for an ignite talk is harder than most other talks... |
| 04:07.04 | mindjuju | so this time when I tried make load, i got this |
| 04:07.05 | mindjuju | http://www.pastebin.ca/1535946 |
| 04:07.12 | mindjuju | but it still doesn't seem to work |
| 04:07.17 | mindjuju | what do ya'll make of it? |
| 04:07.44 | eggyknap | Perhaps I'm being tainted by my never-ending wish that conferences, LUG meetings, etc. be of a more technically profound nature. |
| 04:08.03 | herlo | hehe, this is so *not* technically profound |
| 04:08.13 | herlo | unless you consider powerpoint to be technically profound |
| 04:08.38 | herlo | mindjuju: that's what you *get*? It looks like you typed that all |
| 04:08.46 | mindjuju | nope |
| 04:08.51 | herlo | it might be giving you the commands to type |
| 04:08.53 | mindjuju | i typed |
| 04:08.54 | mindjuju | vvilla@vlap2:~/Desktop/n2$ sudo make load |
| 04:08.57 | herlo | try those last three lines |
| 04:09.06 | herlo | with a sudo in front of it |
| 04:09.16 | herlo | the insmod could be replaced with |
| 04:09.21 | herlo | modprobe vga2usb |
| 04:09.27 | herlo | but otherwise, it's the same |
| 04:24.46 | herlo | mindjuju: that work ?? |
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